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Good Point Randy!!..I’ve been wondering how to explain it away when I get questioned as to the strange noises in the background.  I worry a bit more about the chattering Geese that usually accompany fishing in PA this time of year, or even worse the occasional Pheasant… That being said, I really don’t approve of taking my cell to the stream as it defeats the purpose I usually go out for, to get away from it.  But with a 4 month old, and a 3 year old,  any time that can be stolen away, will be, at any cost, The Finn

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it true that the sound of a river  in the background over a cell phone is much like the air flow at highway speeds with the window down for circulation?  Just planning ahead.

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Well Mike, I think he was getting ready to tell his boss that he’s "stuck in traffic."  "Sure boss!  Just listen, can’t you hear them guys going by in the opposite direction?  I could be here all day!" — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it true that the sound of a river  in the background over a cell phone is much like the air flow at highway speeds with the window down for circulation?  Just planning ahead.

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Is it true that the sound of a river  in the background over a cell phone is much like the air flow at highway speeds with the window down for circulation?  Just planning ahead. — rakane at gte dot net (remove NOSPAM)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  when the cell phone rang….when I said sneaking out, I meant I was still on the clock so I kept the phone on to cover myself.  It was the wife,  "pick up some milk and bread on the way home"!!

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Snuck out to the Perkiomen on Friday, after work,  on one of those Spring days that Winter borrowed for us to enjoy.  It was unseasonably warm, approaching 65-70, so the fish were already taking advantage of some early Black Stoneflies, and midges, as I arrived. There was already someone in the honey hole, so I walked downstream and took the next decent stretch.  The wind was up a bit, so I figured this would work in my favor, since the water was low and clear.   The reel of choice was the back-up, as the Lamson is in the midst of a tune-up.  Being hurried, and as a result, unprepared,  I hadn’t checked my leader, but got lucky with a decent 9 foot tapered down to what looked like 4x or 5x. Even with the wind kicking up, there were a few sporadic risers out in front of me, so I knew I had to try a something on top.  I decided to tie on a dropper and go with a black caddis on top, trailed by a beadhead green caddis larvae, what a mistake that was.  The wind was too much to handle and it only took a few casts to have both ends wound around each other.  After unraveling the two sections, I lazily kept fishing the same set-up and in two more casts I was in the bush on the bank behind me.  Getting a little frustrated with conditions, and my "luck", I attempted to pull the line out of the bush first, and it came right out!!  minus the beadhead larvae. Having enough with the dropper, I did some quick leader repair, going with a midge nymph.  As I looked up, not only had the wind decided to just quit, but the trout took that as their queue to go hog wild on the surface, figures, since I whacked the dropper, and tied on the nymph. Not wanting to waste my effort,  I made several casts, getting use to the drift with the new rig, adjusting the weight with a bb or two.  Watching the water, estimating where my fly was drifting, I saw a quick, wavy, flash, and set the hook!!  missed him. ….. Coming from a place in my head, where I was beginning to wonder if I should call it a day, to a level of confidence that couldn’t be surpassed,  I took a step upstream and cast into some fresh water.  As I think about it now,  I had lacked any form of focus up to this point, and those subtle taps that I had written off as bottom, now turned into fish, being sure to set the hook on every one of them.  This is a subject that I have struggled with in this water, as the pool  has an uneven bottom, that combined with the slow, clear, water,  I usually am a bit forgiving because I don’t want to spook the fish in the pool. That first cast was perfect, line went out straight, and true, into water that hadn’t been disturbed with previous drifts.  No mending, or lifting was needed and the fly dropped down into the dim bottom of the slot.  Another flash….lift…set the hook…get the line on the reel…..got’em.  A suitable fight for this time of year, although those Perkiomen Rainbows don’t usually disappoint.  It was around 16 inches, a bit above average for the Perkie, and just fine with me. Checked the line, took another step upstream,  and made another great cast (it’s amazing what adrenaline will do for your casting), flash….set-the hook…got’em.  this one just about the same size, but a little skinny.  Was about to make another cast, when the cell phone rang….when I said sneaking out, I meant I was still on the clock so I kept the phone on to cover myself.  It was the wife,  "pick up some milk and bread on the way home"!! Well, having stolen the time on the stream, I knew it was time to call it a day, I backed out of the hole, and walked away.  I did look back at that hole after a few steps and sure enough they were back on the surface.  Made a few casts upstream on the way back to the truck, without any takers. I passed another angler and he hadn’t any luck, also using a midge nymph, so I took my last boost of confidence from that and bolted home,  enjoying the end of that day, that Winter had borrowed just for me. The Finn

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  One of the things i was doing for years when I came up to structure is cast at it over and over.And after a while i would cast in the right spot and have a good catch.I was wasting allot of time doing this.Now I got away to get my catch and move on.What I do now is when I ease up to a pier or any other structure that is hard to cast into,over,or under I pull some line out the tip of the rod grasp the lure and throw it to where i want it,It works for me and it will put another fish in your boat.I use this allot when i am by my self,When i have some one with me i feel pressured unless they tell me i am the leader.Other than that i there just having fun.I hope some one from rofb can use this tip and it works for them. Bubba This tip gose out to Don Screen a fishing partner of mine. use it Don

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Don, what’s the barometer doing there?  That’s the key as far as I am concerned.  If it’s rising, go watch TV; you won’t be catching any fish. Also, 50 d. water is a bit cool for LM; they might be sitting very tight in heavy cover.  Try a jig, r-e-a-l  s  l  o  w   right in the middle of the crud. Warren2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Bubba!     I’ve never heard of doing this before..but will certainly give it a try. Went fishing today for a few hours at Ray Roberts…got zero hits.  Water temp was 50 degrees and very stained.  Fished carolina rigged watermleon stud fries and white floating worms and a tandem gold willow leaf blad spinnerbait.  Nada..nothing…   Don’t know if they have shutdown because of the water temp or I was just fishing the wrong baits. Don   One of the things i was doing for years when I came up to structure is cast at it over and over.And after a while i would cast in the right spot and have a good catch.I was wasting allot of time doing this.Now I got away to get my catch and move on.What I do now is when I ease up to a pier or any other structure that is hard to cast into,over,or under I pull some line out the tip of the rod grasp the lure and throw it to where i want it,It works for me and it will put another fish in your boat.I use this allot when i am by my self,When i have some one with me i feel pressured unless they tell me i am the leader.Other than that i there just having fun.I hope some one from rofb can use this tip and it works for them. Bubba This tip gose out to Don Screen a fishing partner of mine. use it Don

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Thanks Bubba!     I’ve never heard of doing this before..but will certainly give it a try. Went fishing today for a few hours at Ray Roberts…got zero hits.  Water temp was 50 degrees and very stained.  Fished carolina rigged watermleon stud fries and white floating worms and a tandem gold willow leaf blad spinnerbait.  Nada..nothing…   Don’t know if they have shutdown because of the water temp or I was just fishing the wrong baits. Don

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   One of the things i was doing for years when I came up to structure is cast at it over and over.And after a while i would cast in the right spot and have a good catch.I was wasting allot of time doing this.Now I got away to get my catch and move on.What I do now is when I ease up to a pier or any other structure that is hard to cast into,over,or under I pull some line out the tip of the rod grasp the lure and throw it to where i want it,It works for me and it will put another fish in your boat.I use this allot when i am by my self,When i have some one with me i feel pressured unless they tell me i am the leader.Other than that i there just having fun.I hope some one from rofb can use this tip and it works for them. Bubba This tip gose out to Don Screen a fishing partner of mine. use it Don

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Hi Warren,     There is an approaching cold front so the baro should have been dropping today.  I did not try a jig despite the owner of the Buck Creek tackle and taxidermy store telling me that they were hitting white jigs.  :-( A local here had boated not one but two bass in the 11.5 lb range in the last two weeks at Buck Creek (Lake Ray Roberts). Saw a polaroid of one of them.  It was massive looking!  Caught on a worm of some kind. The lake has come back up a full 5 ft and it almost looks like a different lake now.  Still 12ft to go to full pool level. Much easier to navigate my favorite fishing areas.   Guess I need to work on my jig techniques.  :-) Don

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don, what’s the barometer doing there?  That’s the key as far as I am concerned.  If it’s rising, go watch TV; you won’t be catching any fish. Also, 50 d. water is a bit cool for LM; they might be sitting very tight in heavy cover.  Try a jig, r-e-a-l  s  l  o  w   right in the middle of the crud. Warren2 Thanks Bubba!     I’ve never heard of doing this before..but will certainly give it a try. Went fishing today for a few hours at Ray Roberts…got zero hits. Water temp was 50 degrees and very stained.  Fished carolina rigged watermleon stud fries and white floating worms and a tandem gold willow leaf blad spinnerbait.  Nada..nothing…   Don’t know if they have shutdown because of the water temp or I was just fishing the wrong baits. Don   One of the things i was doing for years when I came up to structure is cast at it over and over.And after a while i would cast in the right spot and have a good catch.I was wasting allot of time doing this.Now I got away to get my catch and move on.What I do now is when I ease up to a pier or any other structure that is hard to cast into,over,or under I pull some line out the tip of the rod grasp the lure and throw it to where i want it,It works for me and it will put another fish in your boat.I use this allot when i am by my self,When i have some one with me i feel pressured unless they tell me i am the leader.Other than that i there just having fun.I hope some one from rofb can use this tip and it works for them. Bubba This tip gose out to Don Screen a fishing partner of mine. use it Don

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Don, what’s the barometer doing there?  That’s the key as far as I am concerned.  If it’s rising, go watch TV; you won’t be catching any fish.

Are there any techniques that will be of help fishing while the barometer is rocketing through the roof? Does anybody know why the fish go off the bite? — So it goes.

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Good tip Bubba, THANKS!  I suggest you start praqcticing pitching.  It’ll give you the same presentation as your toss-cast, but with a quieter entry (always good). Warren

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   One of the things i was doing for years when I came up to structure is cast at it over and over.And after a while i would cast in the right spot and have a good catch.I was wasting allot of time doing this.Now I got away to get my catch and move on.What I do now is when I ease up to a pier or any other structure that is hard to cast into,over,or under I pull some line out the tip of the rod grasp the lure and throw it to where i want it,It works for me and it will put another fish in your boat.I use this allot when i am by my self,When i have some one with me i feel pressured unless they tell me i am the leader.Other than that i there just having fun.I hope some one from rofb can use this tip and it works for them. Bubba This tip gose out to Don Screen a fishing partner of mine. use it Don

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Bubba, that is an interesting concept, which I might try, when I don’t have a crankbait tied! Jimmy Houston said something at a seminar about pitching and flipping.  His inexact words were ‘That was developed by someone who never learned how to throw under hand’.  With your free-hand method, which works best?! —    Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   One of the things i was doing for years when I came up to structure is cast at it over and over.And after a while i would cast in the right spot and have a good catch.I was wasting allot of time doing this.Now I got away to get my catch and move on.What I do now is when I ease up to a pier or any other structure that is hard to cast into,over,or under I pull some line out the tip of the rod grasp the lure and throw it to where i want it,It works for me and it will put another fish in your boat.I use this allot when i am by my self,When i have some one with me i feel pressured unless they tell me i am the leader.Other than that i there just having fun.I hope some one from rofb can use this tip and it works for them. Bubba This tip gose out to Don Screen a fishing partner of mine. use it Don

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Brendan, from what I have been told, it is not whether a high or low pressure system moves in.  It is the change that turns the bite off, as bass need some time to adjust. —    Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don, what’s the barometer doing there?  That’s the key as far as I am concerned.  If it’s rising, go watch TV; you won’t be catching any fish. Are there any techniques that will be of help fishing while the barometer is rocketing through the roof? Does anybody know why the fish go off the bite? — So it goes.

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It is the change that turns the bite off, as bass need some time to adjust.

Actually, in my observation, it doesn’t have anything to do with the bass being off their feed… What happens, in my observation, is it shuts down the food chain.  The plankton quits growing, the minnows, bream, etc quit moving around, hence the bass know it’s not a good time to go rooting around for lunch.  They’ll still bite, but because they aren’t in any "attack" mode, the presentation must be precise. This is a long argued topic.  

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exactamundo!

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Right On Warren!  Pitching will accomplish the same objective more effectively, and you can pitch every lure type Bubba, I do!  Worms, Jigs, Spinnerbaits, Crankbaits, Jerkbaits, etc. Pitching is deadly quiet up to 30′, fairly quiet up to 50′, quieter then casting up to 70-80′.  The longer the rod, the further you can pitch quietly.  With one of the new 8′ Flipping Sticks, you can reach those further distances 70-90′ Me personally, with a 8′ Flipping Stick, I can now pitch 30-40′ super easy and deadly quietly.  You will be amazed at how far and quiet you will be able to pitch with a 8′ rod, especially if you are use to using a shorter 7′ or 7′6" rod.  The rod length really is the secret to effective pitching! — Craig

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I feel comfortable pitching with a 6′6" rod.  I never have a need to pitch further than 15-20 feet. Warren

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Right On Warren!  Pitching will accomplish the same objective more effectively, and you can pitch every lure type Bubba, I do!  Worms, Jigs, Spinnerbaits, Crankbaits, Jerkbaits, etc. Pitching is deadly quiet up to 30′, fairly quiet up to 50′, quieter then casting up to 70-80′.  The longer the rod, the further you can pitch quietly.  With one of the new 8′ Flipping Sticks, you can reach those further distances 70-90′ Me personally, with a 8′ Flipping Stick, I can now pitch 30-40′ super easy and deadly quietly.  You will be amazed at how far and quiet you will be able to pitch with a 8′ rod, especially if you are use to using a shorter 7′ or 7′6" rod.  The rod length really is the secret to effective pitching! — Craig

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 I think every one for the responseon this i ask a couple of group members about this they thought it  be a good idea,Don knows i can pitch,flip put and lure that i use in the spot i aim for,but some of them piers u can’t ppl put wire,allot of boards,ect., and i don’t make just a coupleof cast and move on i will stick with it for a while, some times you need to use the toss method.All my rods are 6′to 6′6" i like them very well. Bubba

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My northern Wisconsin tip of the month??? DON’T put your tongue on anything metal that’s outside.  That includes jigging spoons. This tip goes out to anyone north of the Mason/Dixon line. —

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Are there any techniques that will be of help fishing while the barometer is rocketing through the roof? Does anybody know why the fish go off the bite?

        The best advice I can tell you would be that most high barometer conditions usually mean that it’s time to bring the soft plastics out to do some heavy-duty worm fishing.  And there is nothing necessarily wrong with this because while the high barometer often provides a slower bite, sometimes that bite is more reliable.         As with most everything in fishing, there are a lot of exceptions to this rule.  Always remember that it’s always possible that the high barometer might come along with another condition that could trigger the fish…  (ie. warmer water triggering a shad or fish movement, warmer air increasing the fly hatch) — Dwayne E. Cooper, Atty at Law Indianapolis, IN Web Page: http://www.cooperlegalservices.com Personal Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosierwebsites.com/OnTheWater Favorite Fishing Web Page: http://www.hoosiertradingpost.com/FishingTackle 1st Annual ROFB Classic Winner

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I believe you’re a fine basser Bubba, in fact I’m gonna look you up if I ever get down to your neck of the woods.  What kinds of lures do you use this method with? WW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I think every one for the responseon this i ask a couple of group members about this they thought it  be a good idea,Don knows i can pitch,flip put and lure that i use in the spot i aim for,but some of them piers u can’t ppl put wire,allot of boards,ect., and i don’t make just a coupleof cast and move on i will stick with it for a while, some times you need to use the toss method.All my rods are 6′to 6′6" i like them very well. Bubba

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My tube bait,But u can use what ever u want just watch those hooks,I went yesterday only got 13 lbs in 4 hours it was cold 39 out there my water temp  quit on me but it was cold to i was in 10-15 ft water carolina a tube 3′ leader with alke. in it. I got to fish this weekend there is a front comming in oh boy it tis goig to be cold. But thats ok i still will be up there on top.lol Bubba

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That’s the spirit Bubba!  You think I should buy stock in Alka-Seltzer this winter? Warren

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My tube bait,But u can use what ever u want just watch those hooks,I went yesterday only got 13 lbs in 4 hours it was cold 39 out there my water temp  quit on me but it was cold to i was in 10-15 ft water carolina a tube 3′ leader with alke. in it. I got to fish this weekend there is a front comming in oh boy it tis goig to be cold. But thats ok i still will be up there on top.lol Bubba

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It helps warren.works for me. Bubba

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You’re convinced that adding Alka Seltzer to your tubes catches you more bass?  Any proof it doesn’t cost you fish sometimes?  Is it effective in clear water Bubba? Warren

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Warren not saying that but when there is no bite i will try anything as long as i can.But TNT or live bait ok.It just seem to help. Bubba

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I have to back Bubba.  I use Alka Seltzer myself from time to time when the bite is off.  It’s not my first choice, but it especially works well in clearer water & hot water under pressured conditions. — Craig

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Warren you know better!  You know that bass will react to different stimulus.  One hour they will react to one type of presentation and an hour later to another.  You know that if you miss a bass with one presentation, that throwing right back to the same spot with another type of lure and presentation can immediately draw that same bass to strike. — Craig

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I guess you got me.  Some times I hammer them with a glass rattle, sometimes I get em better w/o the rattle. Warren

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My 17 year old son and I day tripped into a sub-alpine lake in the sapphires. We hauled in a hobbie cat pontoon boat and went fly-fishing for arctic grayling.  Between the two of us we caught & released about 50 of the little things in about 5 hours of fishing. Basically they hit anything that floated in a 14 or smaller.  most were 10" or so but we caught a few up to 14" and one 16".    lake is at about 8200′ elevation and still ringed with snow on the adjacent north facing slopes (i.e. water is bloody cold) I must have been pre-occupied during my turn on the pontoon- my son tells me there was a black bear taking a drink from the shore line about 100′ from where I was fishing & I didn’t see it. (lake is about 13 acres and I was on the far side under a shale slide.) The grayling do not fight like a trout- they tended to stay down and run- but not with a lot of power.  Unfortunately I only have a 9′  6 wt which is definitely too much rod for these fellas – I think a 4 wt might be more fun–hmm, I wonder what the finance dept would say to that. Sunday I had a little time to kill so I ran up the Blackfoot river (base river in ARRTI) and fished for a few hours- only managed 5 or 6 small ‘bows of about 10".  the water is still high, fast and turbid and I was using a small wulff pattern.  I think a "big ugly" would be better. Looks like a really dry year coming- I’m worried about water levels in the major streams/rivers.

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Rivers are below normal and the snowpack is basically gone. We need timely rains if the rivers are going to stay cool enough for trout. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looks like a really dry year coming- I’m worried about water levels in the major streams/rivers.

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Why write what you would like to express in such large letters?

It’s a question of a diciple to his / her beloved master Osho. In order to make a clear viewable difference the bookprinting company decided to choose this typo with large letters for the question.  It seems to me that you aren’t very confident of beliefs and that’s why you feel forced to "scream" your thoughts.

Who’m are you talking to? This was a question asked by an anonymous disciple at the 18th of August 1976 in the Buddha Hall of the Ashram in Poona / India and I’m not shure that this disciple will read your posting in this NG … However it’s fruitless to make assumptions because I don’t know you.

Indeed – we all don’t know this person. Or are you assuming that I’m – Hari Har Singh – Osho??? I don’t hope so … Arguing is worthless, if it’s knowledge we seek, then open-discussion is more appropriate.

There are many ways to knowledge. An open discussion is allways wellcomned. Who likes to be told that they’re wrong, anyway.

Better to be told that 1 time than running along the wrong way a whole lifetime, hm? We all have different points of view, different perceptions of things, so how could you tell someone that they are wrong?

Many ppl have been and are wrong. That’s nothing impossible. To make mistakes is human. And do you want to leave them in their mistake if you can give them a hint? Simply because you’re right doesn’t make someone else wrong, does it?

??? To who’m are you talking to?? I never said that I’m "right"! Science can’t be denied, I agree with that…however I feel something, an energy that I can’t describe personally through science.  If anyone would be felt by everyone.

Are the Ionsons possibly thinking that I’m Osho?? Shall I really write big QUOTE – QUOTE – QUOTE – QUOTE lines in the next Osho quote I send? The next time I quote Mr. Bill Clinton, Albert Einstein or the Pope maybe somebody thinks I’m one of these persons … That’s a nice trick!! )) — Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh The second question: Question 2

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Why write what you would like to express in such large letters?  It seems to me that you aren’t very confident of beliefs and that’s why you feel forced to "scream" your thoughts.  However it’s fruitless to make assumptions because I don’t know you.  Arguing is worthless, if it’s knowledge we seek, then open-discussion is more appropriate.  Who likes to be told that they’re wrong, anyway.  We all have different points of view, different perceptions of things, so how could you tell someone that they are wrong?  Simply because you’re right doesn’t make someone else wrong, does it?  Science can’t be denied, I agree with that…however I feel something, an energy that I can’t describe personally through science.  If anyone would be felt by everyone. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The second question: Question 2 EACH CENTER OPENING BRINGS A DIFFERENT JEWEL: KUNDALINI, BALANCE, LOVE, EXPRESSION, A DIAMOND MIND. THIS IS THE DILEMMA: WHICH TO CHOOSE? YOU SAY CHOICELESSNESS IS BLISS, BUT SOCIETY REWARDS SPECIALISTS. ALSO, ON THE CELLULAR LEVEL, THE EVOLUTION OF COMPLEX ORGANISMS ARISES OUT OF THE INCREASING SPECIALIZATION OF ITS CELLS. YES, my emphasis is not to choose — be choiceless. Because if you choose, you become narrow. Every choice narrows you down. Every choice says, "Now I will have a window to the sky, not the whole sky." Why? Why have a frame to the sky? The sky is frameless. When you stand at a window and look into the sky, you have falsified the sky — because your window-frame looks as if it is framed on the sky. Then you have only a limited vision, narrow. Why be poor? Why not come out of the house and see the sky as it is — infinite? To me, life is an infinite expanding energy. Don’t make any choice! That’s why I don’t put sannyas against the world. I say be a sannyasin and be in the world, because a sannyasin, if he chooses the life of the monk and escapes from the world, will be poorer for that — because the world has many things to give to you. It is a tremendously beautiful device of God’s — to help you grow, to give you challenges, to give you new adventures; to give you opportunities to test yourself, your awareness, your being. If you escape from the world you will be escaping from all these opportunities. Sitting in a cave in the Himalayas you will be very poor — poor in the sense that you will not have richness of experience. And by and by you will become stupid. You will become silent — that’s true — because there will be nothing to distract you. But that silence also is of the Himalayas, it is not yours. Come back to the world and in the marketplace you will see your silence has disappeared. It was not yours — it was part of the Himalayan silence. You were deceived by yourself. When silence happens in the marketplace then it is true, then it is yours — now nobody can take it away. Now no distraction can be a distraction to you. You can remain anywhere; whatsoever the situation, your silence will remain there as a deep substratum to your being. It is inner. So I don’t say leave the world. I say be in the world and yet be beyond it — so that you can have both the experiences of the sansari, the worldly, and the sannyasin, the other-worldly. When both are possible, why choose? Make life as big as possible. Don’t narrow it down. "Each center opening brings a different jewel… the dilemma is which to choose." No, no need to choose any center. All the centers, all the seven chakras of the body, have to function well. All the centers of the body have to function in a unity, in an organic unity. From sex to sahasrar, from the first to the seventh, they should vibrate like an orchestra. You can choose one center. That’s what people have done: some people have chosen the sex center — they remain, around and around they go. They move in a circle. Their whole life remains just a process of sexuality — very poor. I don’t call them sinners; I simply call them very poor people. And poor by their own choice — when more was possible. It is as if you have an aeroplane and you yoke bullocks to it and use it as a bullock-cart. You are poor — not a sinner. You are simply foolish, stupid! Or you can use the aeroplane like a truck, like a bus — a little better than the bullock-cart, but still you are foolish. Such a costly vehicle, and you are using it as a bus! A vehicle that can fly into the skies, you are using it as a truck on the road. That’s what is happening. You have a beautiful orchestra within you, the full range, all the colors, all the notes — all that is possible is possible within you, but you cling to one center: the sex. Somebody clings to some other center, somebody to some other. And then there are people who think: "Leave all this, and we should just remain in the ajna chakra — in the third-eye center." That too is narrowing down your being. Better than being a bullock-cart but still you are a truck on the road. Then there are a few who think that they have to use only the sahasrar against all the six — then again you are confining your being. Then you have an aeroplane, but you never get down on the earth. You are going to have a big accident sooner or later because sooner or later the gas will be finished, the petrol will not be there. Flying continuously is dangerous. Sometimes come back to the earth, down to earth; refill the petrol, rest, relax; get ready to fly again. That’s the way. And the earth is beautiful — as much as the sky. The stars are beautiful, but have you watched, sitting in an aeroplane? — you cannot look very long in the sky, it is boring. It is beautiful, but it is monotonous. People start falling asleep sooner or later. They look outside the window for a little while and then they feel bored — it is monotonous. Earth is tremendously beautiful, never monotonous. So many flowers, so many trees, s o many birds, so many people. My emphasis is to live in all the seven centers together. Never lose contact with the lowest, and never avoid flying with the highest. Use all the centers! Then your wings will be in the sky and your roots will be in the earth. And a perfect man is a meeting of heaven and earth — that’s what Taoists say: a meeting of heaven and earth. That’s what a perfect man is: meeting of the physical and the spiritual, meeting of the body and the soul, meeting of the world and renunciation, meeting of prose and poetry. AND THE questioner asks: "You say choicelessness is bliss but society rewards specialists." That’s true — society is not interested in your bliss: society is interested in its own efficiency. Society is not bothered whether you are ecstatic or not — that is none of its business. Society wants you to be just efficient mechanisms, robots. Do the work that society wants you to do, and then the society is finished with you. What you do with your own being is none of its business. In fact, the society wants you not to do anything on your own, because that can become a distraction from efficiency. A man who is very happy cannot be so efficient — because he is so bubbling with happiness that efficiency seems trivial. What does it matter whether you earn one thousand rupees a month or ten thousand rupees a month? If his needs are fulfilled, a happy man doesn’t bother. He stops at a point; he is not obsessed with money. If a happy man sees that five days working is enough, then two days he rests — goes fishing or to the mountains. If he sees that only two days working is enough, then he works two days — in five days there are many more important things to do. He has to compose poetry, and he has to play his guitar, and he has to dance; and he has to just sit with friends and gossip; he has to meditate, pray, dance — he has a thousand and one things. His work is a need he has to fulfill. He enjoys it, but he is not obsessed with it. A happy man is never a perfectionist. Only unhappy people are perfectionists, only unhappy people are obsessed with their work — because that is the only way they can avoid themselves, they can avoid facing themselves. they can avoid encountering themselves. They are continuously working; late hours they will go on working; unless they fall asleep they go on working. Why? because they are afraid. If they stop work, then what to do? Then they are left to themselves and they cannot face themselves. Society is, of course, interested in specialists. And specialists, more or less, become inhuman — because they know too much about too little. Their whole vision becomes narrow, narrow, narrow. I have heard — the story must belong to the twenty-first century: One man knocked at a doctor’s, an eye specialist’s office, and he said, "My left eye is hurting very much, and I cannot see rightly, my vision is blurred." The doctor said, "Excuse me, I am sorry, but I specialize only in right eyes. For the left eye you will have to go to some other specialist." Narrower and narrower goes on the path of the specialist. He never sees the tree; he only can see the leaf. The whole is lost in the part. And, of course, the part cannot exist without the whole. In fact, all divisions are arbitrary. The leaf is not separate from the branch; the branch is not separate from the tree; the tree is not separate from the roots; the roots are not separate from the earth. Everything is in organic unity. The specialist goes on dividing, and by and by those divisions, those demarcations, take on too much importance. A specialist becomes inhuman. I have heard: A doctor put an elderly man on a diet because of his weight problem. The man returned to his doctor in two months’ time and he had lost dozens of pounds. The doctor was very pleased with the result. The patient said, "I

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The second question: Question 2 EACH CENTER OPENING BRINGS A DIFFERENT JEWEL: KUNDALINI, BALANCE, LOVE, EXPRESSION, A DIAMOND MIND. THIS IS THE DILEMMA: WHICH TO CHOOSE? YOU SAY CHOICELESSNESS IS BLISS, BUT SOCIETY REWARDS SPECIALISTS. ALSO, ON THE CELLULAR LEVEL, THE EVOLUTION OF COMPLEX ORGANISMS ARISES OUT OF THE INCREASING SPECIALIZATION OF ITS CELLS. YES, my emphasis is not to choose — be choiceless. Because if you choose, you become narrow. Every choice narrows you down. Every choice says, "Now I will have a window to the sky, not the whole sky." Why? Why have a frame to the sky? The sky is frameless. When you stand at a window and look into the sky, you have falsified the sky — because your window-frame looks as if it is framed on the sky. Then you have only a limited vision, narrow. Why be poor? Why not come out of the house and see the sky as it is — infinite? To me, life is an infinite expanding energy. Don’t make any choice! That’s why I don’t put sannyas against the world. I say be a sannyasin and be in the world, because a sannyasin, if he chooses the life of the monk and escapes from the world, will be poorer for that — because the world has many things to give to you. It is a tremendously beautiful device of God’s — to help you grow, to give you challenges, to give you new adventures; to give you opportunities to test yourself, your awareness, your being. If you escape from the world you will be escaping from all these opportunities. Sitting in a cave in the Himalayas you will be very poor — poor in the sense that you will not have richness of experience. And by and by you will become stupid. You will become silent — that’s true — because there will be nothing to distract you. But that silence also is of the Himalayas, it is not yours. Come back to the world and in the marketplace you will see your silence has disappeared. It was not yours — it was part of the Himalayan silence. You were deceived by yourself. When silence happens in the marketplace then it is true, then it is yours — now nobody can take it away. Now no distraction can be a distraction to you. You can remain anywhere; whatsoever the situation, your silence will remain there as a deep substratum to your being. It is inner. So I don’t say leave the world. I say be in the world and yet be beyond it — so that you can have both the experiences of the sansari, the worldly, and the sannyasin, the other-worldly. When both are possible, why choose? Make life as big as possible. Don’t narrow it down. "Each center opening brings a different jewel… the dilemma is which to choose." No, no need to choose any center. All the centers, all the seven chakras of the body, have to function well. All the centers of the body have to function in a unity, in an organic unity. From sex to sahasrar, from the first to the seventh, they should vibrate like an orchestra. You can choose one center. That’s what people have done: some people have chosen the sex center — they remain, around and around they go. They move in a circle. Their whole life remains just a process of sexuality — very poor. I don’t call them sinners; I simply call them very poor people. And poor by their own choice — when more was possible. It is as if you have an aeroplane and you yoke bullocks to it and use it as a bullock-cart. You are poor — not a sinner. You are simply foolish, stupid! Or you can use the aeroplane like a truck, like a bus — a little better than the bullock-cart, but still you are foolish. Such a costly vehicle, and you are using it as a bus! A vehicle that can fly into the skies, you are using it as a truck on the road. That’s what is happening. You have a beautiful orchestra within you, the full range, all the colors, all the notes — all that is possible is possible within you, but you cling to one center: the sex. Somebody clings to some other center, somebody to some other. And then there are people who think: "Leave all this, and we should just remain in the ajna chakra — in the third-eye center." That too is narrowing down your being. Better than being a bullock-cart but still you are a truck on the road. Then there are a few who think that they have to use only the sahasrar against all the six — then again you are confining your being. Then you have an aeroplane, but you never get down on the earth. You are going to have a big accident sooner or later because sooner or later the gas will be finished, the petrol will not be there. Flying continuously is dangerous. Sometimes come back to the earth, down to earth; refill the petrol, rest, relax; get ready to fly again. That’s the way. And the earth is beautiful — as much as the sky. The stars are beautiful, but have you watched, sitting in an aeroplane? — you cannot look very long in the sky, it is boring. It is beautiful, but it is monotonous. People start falling asleep sooner or later. They look outside the window for a little while and then they feel bored — it is monotonous. Earth is tremendously beautiful, never monotonous. So many flowers, so many trees, so many birds, so many people. My emphasis is to live in all the seven centers together. Never lose contact with the lowest, and never avoid flying with the highest. Use all the centers! Then your wings will be in the sky and your roots will be in the earth. And a perfect man is a meeting of heaven and earth — that’s what Taoists say: a meeting of heaven and earth. That’s what a perfect man is: meeting of the physical and the spiritual, meeting of the body and the soul, meeting of the world and renunciation, meeting of prose and poetry. AND THE questioner asks: "You say choicelessness is bliss but society rewards specialists." That’s true — society is not interested in your bliss: society is interested in its own efficiency. Society is not bothered whether you are ecstatic or not — that is none of its business. Society wants you to be just efficient mechanisms, robots. Do the work that society wants you to do, and then the society is finished with you. What you do with your own being is none of its business. In fact, the society wants you not to do anything on your own, because that can become a distraction from efficiency. A man who is very happy cannot be so efficient — because he is so bubbling with happiness that efficiency seems trivial. What does it matter whether you earn one thousand rupees a month or ten thousand rupees a month? If his needs are fulfilled, a happy man doesn’t bother. He stops at a point; he is not obsessed with money. If a happy man sees that five days working is enough, then two days he rests — goes fishing or to the mountains. If he sees that only two days working is enough, then he works two days — in five days there are many more important things to do. He has to compose poetry, and he has to play his guitar, and he has to dance; and he has to just sit with friends and gossip; he has to meditate, pray, dance — he has a thousand and one things. His work is a need he has to fulfill. He enjoys it, but he is not obsessed with it. A happy man is never a perfectionist. Only unhappy people are perfectionists, only unhappy people are obsessed with their work — because that is the only way they can avoid themselves, they can avoid facing themselves. they can avoid encountering themselves. They are continuously working; late hours they will go on working; unless they fall asleep they go on working. Why? because they are afraid. If they stop work, then what to do? Then they are left to themselves and they cannot face themselves. Society is, of course, interested in specialists. And specialists, more or less, become inhuman — because they know too much about too little. Their whole vision becomes narrow, narrow, narrow. I have heard — the story must belong to the twenty-first century: One man knocked at a doctor’s, an eye specialist’s office, and he said, "My left eye is hurting very much, and I cannot see rightly, my vision is blurred." The doctor said, "Excuse me, I am sorry, but I specialize only in right eyes. For the left eye you will have to go to some other specialist." Narrower and narrower goes on the path of the specialist. He never sees the tree; he only can see the leaf. The whole is lost in the part. And, of course, the part cannot exist without the whole. In fact, all divisions are arbitrary. The leaf is not separate from the branch; the branch is not separate from the tree; the tree is not separate from the roots; the roots are not separate from the earth. Everything is in organic unity. The specialist goes on dividing, and by and by those divisions, those demarcations, take on too much importance. A specialist becomes inhuman. I have heard: A doctor put an elderly man on a diet because of his weight problem. The man returned to his doctor in two months’ time and he had lost dozens of pounds. The doctor was very pleased with the result. The patient said, "I feel so young. doctor. Only today I saw a girl’s bare arm and I felt like biting it!" The doctor said, "You could have done. It’s only about forty calories.’ A specialist is a specialist. All specialization becomes basically inhuman. It loses track of the whole. But the society is interested in efficiency. So beware of the society. Society is not interested in your happiness, in your joy. The interest of the society is more production, efficiency, more work — and don’t ask for what, because they don’t know for what. If you work hard they will say to create better situations — for what? — to work still harder. It is just like a man who earns money and you ask him "For what?" He says, "To earn more money. "And then you earn more money, then what?" He says "To earn still more money." The thing seems to be vicious. The individual has totally different interests from the society, because the society has no soul. The society is soulless. And if you become too much a part of the society, it will reduce your soul also to a … read more »

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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I live in Butte, Montana, born and raised here.  Also lived and fished the Sierra Nevada’s near Truckee, CA for about 10 years.  I have degrees in Respiratory Therapy and a graduate degree in Biology.   Been a FF’er since the 70’s.  I very much enjoy still water fishing.  All those lakes near Truckee had a lasting effect.  Milton Reservoir remains one of my favorite places to fish.   I have read this group for the last couple of years and had kind of dropped it due to all the flames and off subject stuff.  I returned a few weeks ago and was surprised to see the lack of venom.  Personally, I enjoy  a fishing group that talks about fishing.   I am curious, what happened? Joe  

Howdy Joe, What happened? Well hell, as someone else put it, we all set down on the front porch and started drinkin’ and bs’n and it turns out we ain’t all so bad, different (‘ceptin wayno and i are johnny rebs) or f&*!ed-up as we originally thought. However, I wouldn’t hold my breath too long if I was you. I see storm clouds a buildin’ out west in the Rockies and up north Canady way. Tight lines, Wataugan Walt

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… I live in Butte, Montana, born and raised here.  Also lived and fished the Sierra Nevada’s near Truckee, CA for about 10 years.  I have degrees in Respiratory Therapy and a graduate degree in Biology.   Been a FF’er since the 70’s.  I very much enjoy still water fishing.  All those lakes near Truckee had a lasting effect.  Milton Reservoir remains one of my favorite places to fish. I have read this group for the last couple of years and had kind of dropped it due to all the flames and off subject stuff.  I returned a few weeks ago and was surprised to see the lack of venom.  Personally, I enjoy  a fishing group that talks about fishing. I am curious, what happened? Joe Howdy Joe, What happened? Well hell, as someone else put it, we all set down on the front porch and started drinkin’ and bs’n and it turns out we ain’t all so bad, different (‘ceptin wayno and i are johnny rebs) or f&*!ed-up as we originally thought. However, I wouldn’t hold my breath too long if I was you. I see storm clouds a buildin’ out west in the Rockies and up north Canady way. Tight lines, Wataugan Walt

    Rebels? In NORTH Carolina ? I was under the impression that everybody north of Jacksonville was a yankee. (that auta kick up some dust). Guess next time I see ya I’ll havta check if yer smoken backwoods en gulpin burbon en branch water ( I prefer southern comfort).                                                      John Popp                                                 pertnear south as ya get                                                   in Sanford Fl.

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Freud would have had a field day with this one.  I’ve heard about having an Oedipus complex, but I’ve never heard of suffering from the Rex. Peter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok…here’s mine.  Sorry to bore you, in advance. I am Fifi, the standard internet test poodle. I am a 6 year old miniature french poodle (white, female) owned by some very nice people in Canada.   I am very pampered and a very, very lucky little dog.  I have a beautiful studded collar that my owner, an elderly couple, got me for Christmas last year (human year).  I am well fed and groomed. Like I said, I am very lucky. Except for sometimes. That sometimes is when Uncle Jim comes by and is left alone with me or takes me to the poodle boutique.  He is a very mean man.  In the interest of good taste and politeness (I am french, after all) I will not elaborate on the details of his acts.   Once, though, he left me in the car on the hottest day of the year while he went in to some place that looked like a big doghouse and had sillohouettes of nude human females painted black on the outside.   Of course, I can’t speak and my owner never knows what he does. The best I can do is bark and try to bite him. — Fifi

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Which just goes to show you…never underestimate an ass. Jon "Fishing’s the last thing on my mind" Cook.

– Shoot far’ Jon, I’ve seen asses that couldn’t be *overestimated*! (-: Frank Church Elkhart, IN Over the hill?    What hill?    I didn’t see no hill….(!)

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Ok…here’s mine.  Sorry to bore you, in advance. I am Fifi, the standard internet test poodle. I am a 6 year old miniature french poodle (white, female) owned by some very nice people in Canada.   I am very pampered and a very, very lucky little dog.  I have a beautiful studded collar that my owner, an elderly couple, got me for Christmas last year (human year).  I am well fed and groomed. Like I said, I am very lucky. Except for sometimes. That sometimes is when Uncle Jim comes by and is left alone with me or takes me to the poodle boutique.  He is a very mean man.  In the interest of good taste and politeness (I am french, after all) I will not elaborate on the details of his acts.   Once, though, he left me in the car on the hottest day of the year while he went in to some place that looked like a big doghouse and had sillohouettes of nude human females painted black on the outside.   Of course, I can’t speak and my owner never knows what he does. The best I can do is bark and try to bite him. — Fifi

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Ok…here’s mine.  Sorry to bore you, in advance. I am Fifi, the standard internet test poodle.

Bloody hell ! Reincarnation yet, thought you got burned to death in a pain threshold experiment.  Welcome back to ROFF. You will doubtless be pleased to here that one of the current discussions is Catfishing, and whether to release the beasts or not. This may at least give you some vicarious pleasure, and compensate you somewhat for the dastardly acts imposed on your good self by Uncle Jim. Seems there are a couple of people on here, very similar to Uncle Jim,  who have problems with cats actually, or maybe just the houses the cats live in ?  Whatever, glad to see you alive and barking. Fifi long thought to be dead, has again raised her elegant head, like a phoenix she rose, ( an unnatural pose ! ), and she still looks well groomed and  well fed. Pampered and polished she is, and goes once a week for a frizz, to the poodle boutique, with her uncle the freak, but no reason to get in a tizz ! The tests have now been postponed, cause Fifi was obviously stoned, you dont feel pain, when youre full of cocaine, and the lexus would have to be loaned. In the future we

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I recently relocated to So California (Pasadena).  Can you suggest any good fly fishing holes? Thanks in advance.

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Give the Pasadena Casting Club a call.  I know that they fish the San Gabriel River (although it has been a bit "blown" out due to the heavy rains this winter).  They should be able to help you find some spots. If you like to float tube, try Big Bear Lake — about a 2 hour drive from Pasadena, and the fishing should be great when things start to warm up.  It is a beautiful mountain lake and is worth the trip.  Tom

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East and West Forks of the San Gabriel. Piru Creek below Pyramid Lake In the San Bernadino Mountains         Bear Creek         Deep Creek San Gabe and Piru have a rep for some low-life activity that’ll mess with your vehicle, but I think it’s ok during weekdays. Fish Deep Creek at the upper end (not the Mojave side).  The latter has a real bad rep for vandalism (though this could be a rumor started by some clever fly fishers). Now’s the time for all of these creeks.  I like Bear the best. Never fished the San Gabriel, but it’s pretty close to you, so you might try it.  If you go to Piru, make sure you wear insect repellent.  Until I fished there, I had never experienced black flies.  Cute little gnat sized flies that you are not aware are biting you…until the next day when all the welts start to form. —                                                       -dnc- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently relocated to So California (Pasadena).  Can you suggest any good fly fishing holes? Thanks in advance.

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Will be at camp Moosehead Lake, Maine second week September.  Want to do some casting/spinning fishing for trout, salmon,  teage what should I take, in way of lures, what weight line, etc.  Any suggestions where to fish on Mt Kineo side lake?    

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writes: Will be at camp Moosehead Lake, Maine second week September.  Want to do some casting/spinning fishing for trout, salmon,  teage what should I take, in way of lures, what weight line, etc.  Any suggestions where to fish on Mt Kineo side lake?    

Stop off at the Maine Guide Fly Shop in Greenville before heading to Rockwood. Danny will set you up with what you need for spin fishing or lake trolling. Bill — Bill Fling                     Tel. (315) 298-3044 SALMON RIVER ANGLERS LODGE     FAX  (315) 298-2619 P.O. Box 353                   Rt. 13, Rome Road Pulaski, NY 13142-0353   ‘SALMON RIVER/LAKE ONTARIO SPORTFISHING REPORTS’             ‘http://www.salmon-river.com’

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Has anyone fished Moosehead Lake (Maine) for Bass?  I am thinking about going up there in August.  Thanks

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Wow, this takes me back…haven’t fished Moosehead since the early 70s…didn’t know bass were there! Try spinners fished deep near the islands and points. ACP

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I will be in the Norway area of wester Maine in August and would like to do some flyfishing for trout.  Does anyone have any information? I would prefer streams, but lake information would be good also. Thanks. Wes Autio Pelham, Massachusetts

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I will be in the Norway area of wester Maine in August and would like to do some flyfishing for trout.  Does anyone have any information? I would prefer streams, but lake information would be good also. Thanks. Wes Autio Pelham, Massachusetts

August is not the best time to be in Norway, ME, looking for trout. Depending on how much time you have, your best bet would be the Rapid River, below Lake Richardson. This would be about an hour and a half drive, and a little hike, but easily the best bet in the area. The trout ponds in that area won’t be worth much in August, but you may find some trout in the upper reaches of the Crooked and Little Androscoggin Rivers. Both areas would be about a half hour drive from Norway. Good Luck. Joel Anderson

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There is only one place in Guatemala, Iztapa. Pangas go for $300 per day with lunch and drinks, 31′ Bertrams around $800. There are hotels at around $15/ person, but they’re pretty scuzzy. You’re much better off with the best places at around $75 per night, double. You can get there by renting a car, a hired van or a bus, but you’ll waste a whole day by taking the bus. If you want more details call me at 516 668 2019. I can set up everything for you.   Gene Kelly

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I just got back from Guatemala and caught one sail on the fly rod. We caught eight on standard tackle the first day but we had my wifes cousins with us and I didn’t try the light tackle. The second and third days were slower and we had trouble with too many dolphin around. I arrange trips throughout Central America and can help you out. Give me a call at 516 668 2019 and I’ll give you all the details about the cheap way to go as well as the moderate way to go.                                 Gene Kelly

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Looking for any info on opportunities in Guat, particularly Pacific side. Would appreciate any advice, contaacts, starting points etc.

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: Looking for any info on opportunities in Guat, particularly Pacific side. : Would appreciate any advice, contaacts, starting points etc. Ken Johnson at Guatemala Unlimited has all the info and can make the arrangements. Guatemala Unlimited http://members.aol.com/guatemala1/html/guatunl.htm good luck, james

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Plainly [we live] in a world which rebuffs those who make demands upon it but one which lavishes benevolence upon those who ask for nothing.  It is this paradox which leads me to suspect that the esthetic derivatives of fishing are inversely proportional to the complexity and refinement of the angler’s methodology.   -Harold Blaisdell, The Philosophical Fisherman

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I am a member of The Long Beach Casting Club in Long Beach,CA, chartered in 1926. We are a not-for-profit fly fishing club and members of the Western Casting Association and the American Casting Association. We are fortunate enough to have a clubhouse and casting pond facility at our disposal. We provide classes in beginning fly casting instruction, fly fishing techniques, rod building and fly tying. All classes are held on Tuesday evenings at 7:00 P.M. ALL CLASSES ARE FREE TO THE PUBLIC. Our monthly meetings are usually on the last Thursday of the month but can change according to the availabilty of the speaker. We have hosted speakers such as Lani Waller, Polly Rosborough and A.K. Best to name a few. Aside from the Monthly meetings and classes we are involved in target and distance casting with flys and plugs throughout the months May through February. We host club trips each month to destinations as close as Newport Bay and Bolsa Chica Beach, to places like the Babine River, the Green River and Yellowstone. We boast of a high number of FFF Certified Casting instructors, nationally recognized fly-tyers, past national casting champions and a solid core of knowledgable, friendly, giving anglers. Anyone interested in finding out more about The Long Beach Casting Club can contact me via E-mail. As a public service I will start posting current and upcoming events of the Long Beach Casting Club. Watch this space for "L.B.C.C. Events". Remember that ALL INSTRUCTION IS FREE. Guy Manning

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Attributed to me: "Great fishing beats average sex"

Hell, LOUSY fishing beats average sex! Of course, there’s always the quote that goes:  "A man’s gotta believe in something, I believe I’ll go fishing."

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?…

How about the Far Side cartoon with two guys in a boat on the lake with atomic mushroom clouds on the horizon. Guys looking at clouds with the quote "I’ll tell you what this means Norm… no size restrictions and screw the limits" Barry Welliver

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My current fav— "Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day.  Teach a man to fish and the damn fool will starve to  death before he comes in off the river!"  Author unknown Charley

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 Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?

. "I got a fly rod for my wife.  Not a bad trade huh?" . Timothy Raup Eagles Nest 1-401-353-3359

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My favorite quote by far comes from John Gerach’s book Dances With Trout: "If flyfishing is as good as sex, then I’m doing one of them wrong." For humor and entertaining reading about flyfishing, Gerach is very good.

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One of my favorites came from a friend I taught to bass bug last summer. "Flyfishing has to be the most elegant and expensive way to get skunked." JL 8-Wt Editor

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folk got some favourite quotes? All thoughts gratefully received. Might even be an occasion to persuade a few more of our folk to get on the net and chat.  

My father, an avid fly fisherman, says to my mother: "When one of us die, I’ll go fishing on Bornholm" Bornholm is a beautiful island with a lot of sea run salmon and trout. Another one, for which I don’t know the source goes something like this: "Those who say that fly fishing is better than sex, has no understanding of either" A very funny one. A danish tackle shop gets an order for a lot of vises for danes travelling to Saudi Arabia. A costumer stadning by says: "It must be for dry flies" Regards Martin Joergensen Copenhagen, Denmark

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a member of The Long Beach Casting Club in Long Beach,CA, chartered in 1926. We are a not-for-profit fly fishing club and members of the Western Casting Association and the American Casting Association. We are fortunate enough to have a clubhouse and casting pond facility at our disposal. We provide classes in beginning fly casting instruction, fly fishing techniques, rod building and fly tying. All classes are held on Tuesday evenings at 7:00 P.M. ALL CLASSES ARE FREE TO THE PUBLIC. Our monthly meetings are usually on the last Thursday of the month but can change according to the availabilty of the speaker. We have hosted speakers such as Lani Waller, Polly Rosborough and A.K. Best to name a few. Aside from the Monthly meetings and classes we are involved in target and distance casting with flys and plugs throughout the months May through February. We host club trips each month to destinations as close as Newport Bay and Bolsa Chica Beach, to places like the Babine River, the Green River and Yellowstone. We boast of a high number of FFF Certified Casting instructors, nationally recognized fly-tyers, past national casting champions and a solid core of knowledgable, friendly, giving anglers. Anyone interested in finding out more about The Long Beach Casting Club can contact me via E-mail. As a public service I will start posting current and upcoming events of the Long Beach Casting Club. Watch this space for "L.B.C.C. Events". Remember that ALL INSTRUCTION IS FREE. Guy Manning

Hi, pals of L.B.C.C         this is a good news, although I am in Taiwan here far away from         U.S.A and I never try fly-fishing, but I wish I can join …. csleou

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I may be late on this thread, but there is the old chesnut:         "Flyfishing isn’t a matter of life or death, its much more important than that"

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Hi, pals of L.B.C.C    this is a good news, although I am in Taiwan here far away from    U.S.A and I never try fly-fishing, but I wish I can join …. csleou

Of course, when making sarcastic comments about wasting bandwidth, you can only claim moral high ground if you make an effort to trim the article you’re quoting down, rather than forwarding a second copy of the ENTIRE article to the entire world. Also, if you don’t care about fly fishing, you really shouldn’t be posting here, as this is the FLY FISHING news group. Have a nice day. — Cray Computer Corporation    http://www.craycos.com/~ferguson/ferguson.html Colorado Springs, CO                                     Solely my opinions

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<< <Of course, when making sarcastic comments about wasting bandwidth, you tirade deleted for brevity… Calm down, I think he meant it.

Well, if he did, then I apologize. It’s so easy to read the wrong thing out of an ASCII text message, especially across international boundaries. It was a friday, and I’ve seen oh so many of these "gee, I can’t come to timbuktu for your class, because I live in outer slobovia" messages, that I instantly conclude it’s sarcastic. Maybe I was wrong. — Cray Computer Corporation    http://www.craycos.com/~ferguson/ferguson.html Colorado Springs, CO                                     Solely my opinions

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?

Attributed to me: "Great fishing beats average sex" — John Lawitzke Systems Engineer TechSmith Corporation

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?

Attributed to me: "Great fishing beats average sex" How ’bout this one…."Fishing is like sex, even when it’s bad it’s great"

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Tim Dudley: The cartoon book you’re referring to is by JOHN TROY! His work is great! With his permission his work will feature prominently in this thing I’m doing. Good to hear from you. And also that the chuckles are shared across the geography. Best. — David A. Calderisi

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 Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?

"The way to a man’s heart is through his fly" — Gary L. Bertrand   Dept. of Chemistry University of Missouri-Rolla

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes? no more wabbits." E. Fudd

I really like the quote at the beginning of "A River Runs Through It".  I don’t have the exact quote but it was something about all Gods diciples being flyfishermen and John was a dry flyfishermen. "My wife said if I went fishing one more time she’d leave me  Gawd, I’m gonna miss her" — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA "Ask me about my vow of silence."

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OK Ok I just thought of one this is a Jason original…..   ( In your best Forest Gump voice and the Pecos Box is a local fishing area) " Life is like the Pecos Box ya never know what you going to catch….." jason — Jason J. Amaro               | Fight Racism!!!!!!!

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?…

There’s a book of flyfishing cartoons by somebody who’s name escapes me, that has a great cartoon on the cover. It shows a lifeboat with five or six guys who look as if they’ve been in the boat for about a month – clothes are in rags, long hair, dirt, whiskers (no guide jokes here, please), in various states of starvation.  The boat is practically swamped, the waves are running about 12′ in gale force winds, and there’s a guy in the front fly fishing, with another guy hanging onto the fisherman by both legs, pleading with him:  "For God’s sake, man! Switch to wets!  They’ll never rise in seas like this!!" Tim

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: I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) : fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you : folk got some favourite quotes? All thoughts gratefully received. Might : even be an occasion to persuade a few more of our folk to get on the net : and chat.   Pretty much anything Tim Walker says! Rick — T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.  

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