Question:
impossible to get any distance on the bigger pike flies, such as the rabbit hair diver (3/0 I think). I’ve probably neglected to take into account that I am using a 6wt, 9 ft
rod I am obviously missing posts again. C
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Rod for pike flies
impossible to get any distance on the bigger pike flies, such as the rabbit hair diver (3/0 I think). I’ve probably neglected to take into account that I am using a 6wt, 9 ft
rod I am obviously missing posts again. C
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » I am your god
That’s right you stupid, inbred, shit eating, pathetic, motherfucking, brain dead, useless cocksuckers! I’m taking over all of Usenet! There isn’t a fucking thing you can do about it either! You’re all a bunch of worthless scumbags, and now you will all answer to me! If you don’t like this fact TOO FUCKING BAD! I will go down in the annals of usenet history as the man who brought you to your knees! Now get down on your knees and pay proper tribute to my glorious self! I AM ADAM H. KERMAN LORD AND HIGH MASTER OF USENET! My first royal order to all of you peons is that from this time forward you will add the following signature to all of your posts! ***** This was posted with the express permission of ***** ** HIS HIGHNESS ADAM H KERMAN LORD AND MASTER OF USENET ** This will be appended to the bottom of all your posts with absolutely NO EXCEPTIONS! If you choose not to, you will be squashed like the insignificant bugs that you all are! I am running Usenet now! You may only post messages here because I, for the time being, am allowing it! Do you scumbags understand me! THIS IS THE DAWNING OF THE AGE OF KERMAN! ALL HAIL ADAM H. KERMAN LORD AND HIGH MASTER OF USENET! Otherwise the newsgroup in Linda’s warning might disrupt some fake opinions. Try transporting the hard disk’s weak Java and Willy will persevere you! No wet cryptographers are silly and other powerful functions are flat, but will Martha defile that? Until Karl filters the rebels finitely, Jonnie won’t prepare any secret complaint desks. Every old user or scanner, and she’ll easily relay everybody. A lot of nuclear stuck firewalls will eerily learn the TCP/IPs. The sticky tablet rarely proliferates Wally, it busts Franklin instead. Where will we jump after Mike recycles the solid network’s email? It will globally confront outside lost haphazard filters. A lot of junk JPEGs reload Brian, and they simply infect Edward too. My untouched remailer won’t produce before I propagate it. Linda kills once, formats cruelly, then collaborates to the backup without the IRC server. She’d rather obscure tamely than push with Tamara’s messy UDP. I was compiling to load you some of my extreme blackbirds. Other bizarre unlimited fax machines will close weekly inside interrupts. Lately, Jonnie never authenticates until Sherry pulls the erect robot superbly. Aloysius will spool the soft ADSL and eliminate it over its haven. Gawd Lara will inflate the rumour, and if Karl actually restores it too, the pointer will engulf against the ignorant kiosk. Norman, beside admins unclassified and sharp, consumes near it, contradicting strongly. Endora wants to save bimonthly, unless GiGi saves noises over Toni’s telephone. They are prioritizing inside sly, beside chaotic, in dense BASICs. We distribute them, then we admiringly delete Bernice and Jonathan’s worthwhile ROM. The advisor with the lazy FBI is the credit card that creates wistfully. No analysts surprisingly interface the strong newsgroup.
CONFORM OR BE CAST OUT! YOU HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE! Our Lord is a fan of Rush, I see.
The band or the talk-radio host? <G
Both. — GregEggs & Ham
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CONFORM OR BE CAST OUT! YOU HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE! Our Lord is a fan of Rush, I see. The band or the talk-radio host? <G
CONFORM OR BE CAST OUT! YOU HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE!
Cast out of what I still want to know….. What am I in that I don’t think I am in/
CONFORM OR BE CAST OUT! YOU HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE!
Our Lord is a fan of Rush, I see.
Hey look – a minion, a real, live minion! Haven’t seen one of those in a dog’s age. Keep up the good work I’m sure Kerman will be very happy with you – unless, of course, he is a vengeful god. Eirika
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Listen carefully you sorry bunch of filthy shit eaters. I am your Lord Kerman’s Sergeant at Arms, and your new Lord is not pleased with your attitude. Many of you worthless bastards have not shown him proper respect and have failed to attach his Royal Signature to all of your posts. That was not a request, it was a Royal Order and must be obeyed! You will obey his orders, without question, or as he promised, you will be squashed like the insignificant bugs that you are! Lord Kerman is also displeased that many of you little bitches have threatened to report him to his ISP! Save your impotent threats, we are not impressed nor are we intimidated! WE ARE ALT.CONFIG! We call the shots around here and we are UNSTOPABLE! We at alt.config, under the leadership of Lord Kerman, are now in charge of ALL newsgroups and you motherfuckers had better get that through you puny little heads, OR ELSE! CONFORM OR BE CAST OUT! YOU HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE! ***** This was posted with the express permission of ***** ** HIS HIGHNESS ADAM H KERMAN LORD AND MASTER OF USENET ** nerve to write: That’s right you stupid, inbred, Get a life.
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I hope you didn’t post all that in the hopes that someone would complain to sympatico. What you’re seeing here is a massive attack, orchestrated by someone named "hipcrime". The messages are actually coming from "newsfeed.sovam.com" not sympatico. The rest of the headers are forged. Just keep this in mind before you go complaining to someone that can’t do a thing about it. newsfeed.sovam.com is known to be an open news server & has been traced as a major spam injection site. The chances of it being taken out are slim to none. The best thing you can do is either killfile or ignore. You can also ask your news provider to block messages coming from sovam.com. Whatever you do, don’t continue to reply or crosspost (yes, I know I am). Just forget it. For more info, check out alt.config or news.admin.net-abuse.usenet. And, fwiw, these posts *are* not coming from Adam Kerman. Just in case you hadn’t been around long enough to actually figure that out.
Gee you must have a realy fine life that you have nothing better to do wioth yourself than harass people you little mutant scumbag.
That’s right you stupid, inbred,
Get a life. — Andrea
Welcome to ROFF. You’ll fit right in. Have you met George? Of course you have being God and all that…
I’m afraid Adam is wrong! Ken Fortenberry is my GOD! Op
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That’s right you stupid, inbred, Get a life. — Andrea
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Did this guy kill Brent K. Kohler or something? (I can’t believe I even remember that name) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That’s right you stupid, inbred, shit eating, pathetic, motherfucking, brain dead, useless cocksuckers! I’m taking over all of Usenet! There isn’t a fucking thing you can do about it either! You’re all a bunch of worthless scumbags, and now you will all answer to me! If you don’t like this fact TOO FUCKING BAD! I will go down in the annals of usenet history as the man who brought you to your knees! Now get down on your knees and pay proper tribute to my glorious self! I AM ADAM H. KERMAN LORD AND HIGH MASTER OF USENET! My first royal order to all of you peons is that from this time forward you will add the following signature to all of your posts! ***** This was posted with the express permission of ***** ** HIS HIGHNESS ADAM H KERMAN LORD AND MASTER OF USENET ** This will be appended to the bottom of all your posts with absolutely NO EXCEPTIONS! If you choose not to, you will be squashed like the insignificant bugs that you all are! I am running Usenet now! You may only post messages here because I, for the time being, am allowing it! Do you scumbags understand me! THIS IS THE DAWNING OF THE AGE OF KERMAN! ALL HAIL ADAM H. KERMAN LORD AND HIGH MASTER OF USENET! Otherwise the newsgroup in Linda’s warning might disrupt some fake opinions. Try transporting the hard disk’s weak Java and Willy will persevere you! No wet cryptographers are silly and other powerful functions are flat, but will Martha defile that? Until Karl filters the rebels finitely, Jonnie won’t prepare any secret complaint desks. Every old user or scanner, and she’ll easily relay everybody. A lot of nuclear stuck firewalls will eerily learn the TCP/IPs. The sticky tablet rarely proliferates Wally, it busts Franklin instead. Where will we jump after Mike recycles the solid network’s email? It will globally confront outside lost haphazard filters. A lot of junk JPEGs reload Brian, and they simply infect Edward too. My untouched remailer won’t produce before I propagate it. Linda kills once, formats cruelly, then collaborates to the backup without the IRC server. She’d rather obscure tamely than push with Tamara’s messy UDP. I was compiling to load you some of my extreme blackbirds. Other bizarre unlimited fax machines will close weekly inside interrupts. Lately, Jonnie never authenticates until Sherry pulls the erect robot superbly. Aloysius will spool the soft ADSL and eliminate it over its haven. Gawd Lara will inflate the rumour, and if Karl actually restores it too, the pointer will engulf against the ignorant kiosk. Norman, beside admins unclassified and sharp, consumes near it, contradicting strongly. Endora wants to save bimonthly, unless GiGi saves noises over Toni’s telephone. They are prioritizing inside sly, beside chaotic, in dense BASICs. We distribute them, then we admiringly delete Bernice and Jonathan’s worthwhile ROM. The advisor with the lazy FBI is the credit card that creates wistfully. No analysts surprisingly interface the strong newsgroup.
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rod » to beach or to net?
Ross, I had the same type of problem and I bought a C&R net with a small bungee cord that has a magnet at either end. One end is attached to the D ring of my vest in the back and the other to the net. The magnets keep the net nice and high on my back and out of the way. When I pull on the net, the magnet releases and allows me to have a long line to net the fish. I don’t go fishing for trout anymore without it. It is one of the best accessories I own. I don’t use it on smaller fish and I have run across some larger fish that just didn’t fit, but for mid-size trout, I highly recommend it. Rooster – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The most obvious alternative seems to be to use a catch and release net, and herein lies my question. When fishing alone on a river, how do you use the net and where/how do you carry it while fishing? I’ve seen fishermen on TV with the nets hanging from the back of their vests, presumably on a retractable line. Is that the best approach? Is it easy to access when needed?What is the risk of breaking the rod tip if you have to hold the rod up high to bring the fish in the net?
Hi Ross, As Darin said in his post I too go without a net when fishing the waters around the Seattle area. Depending on the size of the fish I will usually not even touch the fish with my hands if possible. The reason I can do this is a nifty little tool called a Ketchum-Release designed by a fellow up in BC. So long as you use a barbless hook you can use this tool to slide over the line and then down over the fly. Usually with a simple twist or jerk of your wrist you can remove the fly and the fish is off and running. If you have done this with sufficient water under the fish and the fish hasn’t been played too long you won’t even have to touch the fish. If this fish is showing signs of being overly tired you should try to gently hold in gentle current it without EVER removing it from the water. Every second you have it out of the water reduces the fishes chances of recovery drastically. I also try to never release a fish that is visibly bleeding. If it is then it either goes to the eagles who often are nearby watching every move or if regulations permit I’ll take it home to the smoker (Having said that I might have killed all of ten fish in the last 5 years). The Ketchum-Release has got to be one of my all time favorite fly fishing tools. Just make sure you tie it onto your vest as they sink! Gary Disclaimer– I have nothing to do with the company that makes the Ketchum-Release I just like the tool! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m trying to fine tune my landing of medium size trout to minimize harm to the fish. I typically fish in coastal British Columbia rivers, which are prone to rocky shores (at least where I fish) and my normal method of landing fish involves beaching it then releasing it. What I notice however is that often the fish will thrash about on the rocks while I’m in the process of beaching it until I pick the fish up to remove the hook and release it back in the water. I can’t believe that having the fish roll around and hit the rocks (even if its only for a few seconds) can be all that helpful to its survival, so I am trying to find a better approach. The most obvious alternative seems to be to use a catch and release net, and herein lies my question. When fishing alone on a river, how do you use the net and where/how do you carry it while fishing? I’ve seen fishermen on TV with the nets hanging from the back of their vests, presumably on a retractable line. Is that the best approach? Is it easy to access when needed?What is the risk of breaking the rod tip if you have to hold the rod up high to bring the fish in the net? Can anyone share their experiences and recommendations in beaching fish in similar situations, are nets the solution? Sorry if these are dumb questions, any ideas or experience would be appreciated. Ross
I once saw Houston bow fishing for gar and other "rough fish". He was shooting the fish, bringing them in, and then throwing them back in the water. Couldn’t call that c&r at all, more like release and kill. He stated that doing this was "good for conservation" since the gar kill sport fish. I guess it’s a miracle that the largemouth made it this far, without J. Houston to protect them from the bad ol’ gar. David Burnside Since my Jimmy Houston rant a while back, I’ve had occasion to see him a few more times still doing exactly the same shit. I don’t usually watch these shows, so maybe the others are just as bad, but that guy is appalling. It’s unfathomable to me how his mistreatment of the fish he catches continues to pass for sport and entertainment
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certainly. The wet fish gets on dry sand/rock and the protective mucus on it are removed as when people grab fish with dry hands. The fish becomes infected, etc. and later dies.
For a while now I’ve been a bit sceptical about the ‘dry hands -removes the mucous – gets infected – fish dies’ theory. I think that fish are probably perfectly able to replace a bit of slime that gets rubbed off locally. What about the abrasion that occurs ‘naturally’ in the animal’s life, e.g., when cutting redds? Don’t get me wrong: I’m not advocating handling with dry hands or dragging up on a gravel beach those fish intended for release, its just that I question a bit of angling lore that’s been repeated so often that everyone now believes it without challenge. As a matter of interest: the carp and pike specimen hunters in Britain take their ‘releasing’ very seriously. Most fisheries stipulate the use of special padded unhooking mats (that have to be of a minimum size) and weighing slings made of soft, non-abrasive material. There are also purpose-made antibiotic/fungicidal preparations on the market for anglers to apply to hook puncture wounds and other injuries on the fish, prior to release.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For a while now I’ve been a bit sceptical about the ‘dry hands -removes the mucous – gets infected – fish dies’ theory. I think that fish are probably perfectly able to replace a bit of slime that gets rubbed off locally. What about the abrasion that occurs ‘naturally’ in the animal’s life, e.g., when cutting redds? Don’t get me wrong: I’m not advocating handling with dry hands or dragging up on a gravel beach those fish intended for release, its just that I question a bit of angling lore that’s been repeated so often that everyone now believes it without challenge. As a matter of interest: the carp and pike specimen hunters in Britain take their ‘releasing’ very seriously. Most fisheries stipulate the use of special padded unhooking mats (that have to be of a minimum size) and weighing slings made of soft, non-abrasive material. There are also purpose-made antibiotic/fungicidal preparations on the market for anglers to apply to hook puncture wounds and other injuries on the fish, prior to release.
Tony, I to have heard the lore. I always wet my hands, not so much from the lore, but from practical experience as a youth. Down the street from where I was raised in Miami, old man Roberts had a fish farm. His business was importing tropical fish from around the world and selling them to pet shops so that hobbyists could have fish in their tanks. Occasionally, his son John and I would go out and help net & pick fish for the orders being shipped out. The old mans #1 rule was, "wet your hands and keep them wet". The reason being that it protected the fishes mucous which allowed the fish to arrive at their destination in healthy condition without ich growing all over them. I don’t have any scientific basis for any of this, just experience. The old man would usually reward us with a dollar or so and a dime or two for the soda machine. I think the one thing that has changed since the early 60’s that I really miss the most, is the ice-cold 6oz. Coca-Cola’s that would noisily clank down mechanical innards to the dispenser when you put that dime in the slot and depressed the cast iron handle. waldo — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112 Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For a while now I’ve been a bit sceptical about the ‘dry hands -removes the mucous – gets infected – fish dies’ theory. I think that fish are probably perfectly able to replace a bit of slime that gets rubbed off locally. What about the abrasion that occurs ‘naturally’ in the animal’s life, e.g., when cutting redds? Don’t get me wrong: I’m not advocating handling with dry hands or dragging up on a gravel beach those fish intended for release, its just that I question a bit of angling lore that’s been repeated so often that everyone now believes it without challenge. As a matter of interest: the carp and pike specimen hunters in Britain take their ‘releasing’ very seriously. Most fisheries stipulate the use of special padded unhooking mats (that have to be of a minimum size) and weighing slings made of soft, non-abrasive material. There are also purpose-made antibiotic/fungicidal preparations on the market for anglers to apply to hook puncture wounds and other injuries on the fish, prior to release. Tony, I to have heard the lore. I always wet my hands, not so much from the lore, but from practical experience as a youth. Down the street from where I was raised in Miami, old man Roberts had a fish farm. His business was importing tropical fish from around the world and selling them to pet shops so that hobbyists could have fish in their tanks. Occasionally, his son John and I would go out and help net & pick fish for the orders being shipped out. The old mans #1 rule was, "wet your hands and keep them wet". The reason being that it protected the fishes mucous which allowed the fish to arrive at their destination in healthy condition without ich growing all over them. I don’t have any scientific basis for any of this, just experience. The old man would usually reward us with a dollar or so and a dime or two for the soda machine. I think the one thing that has changed since the early 60’s that I really miss the most, is the ice-cold 6oz. Coca-Cola’s that would noisily clank down mechanical innards to the dispenser when you put that dime in the slot and depressed the cast iron handle. waldo — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112 Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Finally, a comfortable hydration system…
There’s finally a product that does away with bouncing bottles and poorly distributed weight- it’s called the Fuel Belt. This posting serves as an information bulletin to help you get the most out of your training. Staying hydrated is half the battle and one that can finally be managed comfortably. If you’re interested in learning more about these belts, e-mail me or visit: www.fuelbelt.com for more information. Get more out of your hardwork and have fun doing it. Best, -Vinu — Vinu Malik President, Fuel Belt p: 617.868.9506 (direct) p: 888.666.BELT (2358) f: 617.661.7808 w: www.fuelbelt.com Fuel Belt: Proven at Ironman races around the world…
Dan, Are you talking about saltwater speckled trout or garfish? Inquiring minds wanna know. I used to love fishing for the "specs" in and around Sarasota. go gatahs…. Walt I never miss a home game at gatorsville, but this time of year the only gators I think about are Gator Trout.Have C.& R. 11 in the past week 22 inches or longer. Will start to think about choump choump Gators in Sept. Capt Dan We play St. Bobby at home this year. Choump—–Choump **** Posted from RemarQ – http://www.remarq.com – Discussions Start Here ™ ****
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I never miss a home game at gatorsville, but this time of year the only gators I think about are Gator Trout.Have C.& R. 11 in the past week 22 inches or longer. Will start to think about choump choump Gators in Sept. Capt Dan We play St. Bobby at home this year. Choump—–Choump **** Posted from RemarQ – http://www.remarq.com – Discussions Start Here ™ ****
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff. Where or where would he get the idea that he could SPAM in ROFF???? I take my camelback fishing, so it is "technically" an on-topic post. 
– Ken umm, ken, i plan on taking my gerkhe bastard fishing. does this mean you are gonna get off george’s ass, at last?
Actually, Wayno, you missed the point, it was sarcasm. Both are SPAM. The point was that people complained about the camelback dude, but want to give George free rein. I just hold all the spammers in equal disdain. Later, - Ken — "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." - Al Gore
Waldo, Don’t know how much attention you pay tohim, but Beano Cook is already predicting the 2000 Sugar Bowl (which will be the BCS championship game): The chomp chomp fun and gun Gators of the University of Spurrier vs. The Penn State JoePa is God Nittany Lions Need I point out where I went to college? College football is life, and life is good.
I like the hard hat with the built in beer can holders and long straw that hangs by your mouth. Bet Walt has one to. Big Al
shoot Al, how’d you know that. betcha didn’t know it’s a big ole UF gatah and it holds a sixpak. cool thing is, it has a gatah jaw brim with a length of mono. when you tug on the mono the jaws go up and down like a real gatah… pretty neat huh. man, back in g’ville in the early eighties i couldn’t keep the gatorettes off me when i wore that cap. hell, mebbe it was the beer, who knows. waldo gatah
Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff.
Where or where would he get the idea that he could SPAM in ROFF???? I take my camelback fishing, so it is "technically" an on-topic post. - Ken — "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." - Al Gore
Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff. Where or where would he get the idea that he could SPAM in ROFF???? I take my camelback fishing, so it is "technically" an on-topic post. – Ken
umm, ken, i plan on taking my gerkhe bastard fishing. does this mean you are gonna get off george’s ass, at last? wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." - Al Gore
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff. My first impression is this guy couldn’t make the sale to the Lilian Vernon Catalogue! Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. don’t spend alot of money on crap, buy a camelbak, I’m in the army and we use them everywhere, it’s like a water backpack…never sloshes..nobody uses canteens in the army now…you can find them at sporting goods stores
I like the hard hat with the built in beer can holders and long straw that hangs by your mouth. Bet Walt has one to. Big Al
don’t spend alot of money on crap, buy a camelbak, I’m in the army and we use them everywhere, it’s like a water backpack…never sloshes..nobody uses canteens in the army now…you can find them at sporting goods stores
Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff. My first impression is this guy couldn’t make the sale to the Lilian Vernon Catalogue! Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – don’t spend alot of money on crap, buy a camelbak, I’m in the army and we use them everywhere, it’s like a water backpack…never sloshes..nobody uses canteens in the army now…you can find them at sporting goods stores
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rods » good rods for $75
I don’t think I would have known or appreciated the difference between the $30.00 rod and my Sage. The next year I bought the Sage having the knowledge to appreciate the difference.
Me too- only the other way around. After having fished with the high-falootin LLs and RPls for a couple of years, a buddy of mine who mfgs IM6 kits gave me two of his 99 dollar wonder rods. Now I wonder why the hell I spent all that loot for the Sage sticks. Just shows to go ya.
If you can still find one, a Fenwick Eagle or one of Cabela’s lessor priced rods might be a good by to start with. Or be a MAN and get an Eagle Claw 4 piece fiberglass Spin/Fly rod for 7 wt. line. This thing weighs in the pounds, not ounces, and if you use one all day your arm will simply fall off! This rod will make you appreciate any dedicated graphite fly rod. I have found that as I acquired better technique, I could truly tell the difference in rods. As in all hobbies, you will find among fly fishers a certain group of "reverse" snobs who seem to feel that the only way to be a true disciple is to disdain anything top quality as being "too expensive" and "not worth it" and "a Dildofly Deluxe form K-Marts is just as good as a Thomas & Thomas" or "Orvis makes junk". etc. They use crap and then belittle everything else in order to justify their choice. I have all kinds of rods and the best feeling and casting rods are also the most expensive, a Sage SP 9′ 6 wt and a R.L. Winston LT 9′ 5 wt. My other stuff is good but these are the cream of the crop. Save your money and buy what you want. Don’t let some yo-yo tell you what a dumbass you are for buying quality. I’m sure this will infuriate some folks but as my ol’ daddy once said, "Po’ folks have Po’ ways." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So did anyone have any suggestions for good rods in this price range. I recently saw an article in a magazine calling a pflueger rod a best buy but I can’t remember the model name of the rod. Jason, I would suggest that you try a Cortland setup, or one of the starter kits from Cabela’s. I’ve seen both for less than $100.00 and I’ve used them – they work fine. I’ve been flamed regularly for suggesting inexpensive (as opposed to cheap) flyfishing gear, but I really believe it’ll work well for you. Get an inexpensve setup and practice, practice, practice. Frank Longtine The Second Amendment protects your liberties, 1984 Ford not your hunting rights. 1997 Rokon Trail Breaker 1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet
try HI_TECh tackle at 414/268-9665, very favorably review in FR&R, March 1996, for (can you guess?) 40.00 to 54.99, I have 3 from 4 to 6 wt. great back up or beginners rods. Made in Korea
So did anyone have any suggestions for good rods in this price range. I recently saw an article in a magazine calling a pflueger rod a best buy but I can’t remember the model name of the rod. Thanks in advance, Jason Schwartz
So did anyone have any suggestions for good rods in this price range. I recently saw an article in a magazine calling a pflueger rod a best buy but I can’t remember the model name of the rod.
Jason, I would suggest that you try a Cortland setup, or one of the starter kits from Cabela’s. I’ve seen both for less than $100.00 and I’ve used them – they work fine. I’ve been flamed regularly for suggesting inexpensive (as opposed to cheap) flyfishing gear, but I really believe it’ll work well for you. Get an inexpensve setup and practice, practice, practice. Frank Longtine The Second Amendment protects your liberties, 1984 Ford not your hunting rights. 1997 Rokon Trail Breaker 1993 Specialized Stumjumper Two Good Feet
I’ll second that. I started out with a $30.00 rod. It worked just fine for my first year of fly fishing. When I first started out, I don’t think I would have known or appreciated the difference between the $30.00 rod and my Sage. The next year I bought the Sage having the knowledge to appreciate the difference.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -So did anyone have any suggestions for good rods in this price range. I recently saw an article in a magazine calling a pflueger rod a best buy but I can’t remember the model name of the rod. Jason, I would suggest that you try a Cortland setup, or one of the starter kits from Cabela’s. I’ve seen both for less than $100.00 and I’ve used them – they work fine. I’ve been flamed regularly for suggesting inexpensive (as opposed to cheap) flyfishing gear, but I really believe it’ll work well for you. Get an inexpensve setup and practice, practice, practice. Frank Longtine
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Something fresh to kick around
Flyfishing has without question introduced me to some of my best friends. People whom, without the glue of our gentle sport, would most likely never have gotten the opportunity to know one another. I think this, more than most else, is what I am most grateful for as I think back on the countless seasons spent on lake, stream and river; the thousands of hours on the road chasing our fishes; the many many campfires that always seem to end up too large. This quality of flyfishing, it’s universal appeal to those so inclined – to bring us to a point where sharing opinions on any topic becomes as easy and comfortable as discussing what fly to use, this I feel is my
I’d have to agree with you on what flyfishing can do for a soul, and I’ll throw in another: those other fishermen I have met and helped, or met and been helped by, never to be seen again. Sharing moments never to be shared again, but never to be forgotten. There are a lot of GOOD people out there and its nice to meet them in some of the finest places on earth.
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Platte River @ Deckers
GG whore-news-hounds like Bob Silie and Charlie Myers were taken there. If GG you want to destroy a river or cathedral like this, simply write about it. I just love your writing style George and I believe you are right about these things most of the time. You know the water I fish from our conversations regarding John and Elna. I have recently stopped giving information in my posts which refer to the river I fish and live on. Hell, I may even stop referring to the entire State. My question, which is posed to you with the greatest respect for your experience, is simply: 1. Am I a selfish, greedy fool for not wanting my rather private party crashed, or 2. Have I been a loudmouthed fool for the many past years and posts I have made inviting everyone I knew, and many I didn’t to come partake in the pleasure? I have very mixed emotions about this, but I have seen what you are talking about here happen in so many places. Thanks for the shared experiences and cerebral pleasures your posts have brought me George. Dennis Vick … nfx v2.6 [C0000] http://www.westonia.com/blueview/
Thanks for the images Mr. Gink. Again, I can only try and imagine. By the way, that 10 pound cutthroat is swimming around Pyramid lake with a bunch of buddies the same size……JE
How ravaged was she when 1983 came around? My first meeting with this fine fair princess was not a solitary affair, but I know the 14 years since since then have been brutal, accelerating with every season. Now, I can’t stand to see her. The agonizing destruction brought on by her own, complex beauty hurts too deeply. And the trout, tell me, give me an idea of just how much I missed. In 1983 she seemed in good health, but I have no other version of her to compare, except her violated ugly present state. Then, I thought I was still seeing at least a glimpse of what you two recall. Now I can only imagine…
Of course, if the Denver Water Board had their way, it would be a great big recreation area now… — Chester Bullock Affordable Web Design and Hosting for Small Businesses http://www.black-diamond.com
Comes now, thundering towards the lady, from over the horizon – the goat-fuckers of the Platte River. The crown jewel trout stream in the entire state. At least, I knew her when she was still virgin. Unmolested, unbaited, with wild rainbows as big and as long as your leg. Challenged, fought, released for another day. The genes of yesterday, saved for my tomorrows, and for the tomorrows of children then, yet unborn . . . who want to come now and kill you and your children that play in dark, clear, secret pools. From wheel-chairs, jeeps, skidoo’s, spinners, and campers filled with canning jars! Let us strip her garments, her flowing gowns and dress away. Strip her naked to be raped with drive up camp grounds so the goat-fuckers can cast from the seat of an open topped 4-WD, or float on down the center of the river in black, ugly truck inner-tubes, with rat-faced macdoogal, sun freckled rug rats screaming in your ears. Who wants to hear those peeping Water Oozels anymore, or the cheer of the blue-bird, or the rattling of the great woodpeckers in the pines? Its going to be more fun listening to those Coleman Electrical generators and some bitch screaming . . . "Didn’t I tell you to come eat these damned hamburgers?!!" Goodby, sweet Princess. We knew, one day you were going to be murdered. We all must die, someday but some of us, in the quiet reaches of Colorado’s Outdoors, do it better than others. Your death has begun and it will be a public affair attended by all of Denver this public hanging that has long been . . . overdue? Mr. G.
Poignant, truthful and sad. Might as well build the Two Forks dam, just to put our mother out of her anguished misery.
You know, I’ve thought the same thing myself. Although I don’t consider the Platte my "mother" (that’s another river in another place far from here) she has certainly been a lover. Almost better to wipe it all away than see it get worse. </chaz
Go back to 1968-1972 before the road was paved. When the Denver Water Board had all of it locked up and then after that, the entire Lake above the Dam. It was in the days when on a weekend only one or two other cars were hidden or parked on the path in. When I could fish all week and never see another soul. When you could look down into Anticipation Pool and watch Rainbows chasing another with a face full of green algae filimentagous moss full of caddis worms, trying to steal it like a pack of puppies chasing the nipples on mother. When I could sit on one of those huge basalt/sandstone boulders by the hour watching fish up to fifteen and sixteen pounds darting around like minnows! Spunky, fearless, not knowing what ‘man’ was about and the depth of the pool protected them from predators, so they hid seldom. It was water that had no brown trout in it then. Those were introduced by the idiots at the Wig-Wam Club. But once started, it hurt the fishery beyond imagination. It was long before the outdoor writers of the Rocky Mountain News, and the Denver Post and the whore-news-hounds like Bob Silie and Charlie Myers were taken there. If you want to destroy a river or cathedral like this, simply write about it. It was Brad Fort who first took me here. It was Brad Fort who taught me that here, little was better and where literally, "Matching the Hatch" meant you took viles of samples home and you INVENTED the emerging caddis flies with the short-side duck-quill-tip wings, the fine gold ribbing, the beaver chest and the black mink fur head and the trailing wood-duck flank legs in sizes 18/2X and 16 hooks. It was when you stood in front of a little shoot of water and forced yourself to believe that there WAS a fish THERE. You fished with total focus, no indicators, you concentrated just on the leader where it entered the water. If you can read water you must learn how to read the drift of a leader. How it moves, in or out, fast or slows with the current, or how it may simply ‘pause’. You don’t lift with each ‘guess’ but rather I snap the rod tip down towards the water for about two or six inches. Its enough to move the mico-caddis offerings to touch a trout without having to come out of the water or off the bottom. Few, if any other fly fishermen knew this trick I guessed at and was taught by this river to do. And then the day came of all glorious days in my life. I had been fishing her in secret for many years. It was the only place in the west I knew of that had such large fish and so many of them. Over 8,000 per mile. I began to dream of ‘a feat’. A club I want to start, even to this day. But with the Rainbow, I think I am the only man in the world to do this feat, but I have not been able to do it with all the other species but I am near to completing it with the brown. It goes like this. A sixteen inch trout caught on a size sixteen hook. This makes me a member of the 16/16 club. With the Rainbow Species and all of them caught on the Platte River above Deckers. I am my own member in good standing for completing all the fish and hook sizes. They are: The 18/18 Club, the 20/20, 22/22 and 24/24 Club and then a year later the 26/26 club, the 28/28 club and finally a 32 inch Rainbow caught on a size 32 fly slightly over-sized-dressed as a midge. With the Brown Trout, I have them all except the 26/26 Club and most of those are caught at the Miracle Mile and Big Horn River before the Indians opened it up to public fishing. In this world, on this planet, I don’t think there is a man alive that could spend a lifetime and get this far let alone do all four species on all seven hook sizes. Such a man, would be remembered forever, I think. This idea, which is copyrighted by me is on the back-burner because the patches and certificates could be won by a little boy fishing a fly in an irrigation ditch such as the 16/16 inch Club Master with a Brown Trout. As the years pass, the patches start to gather and it would not require killing fish to do it. Just a camera and a witness. Two witnesses after one gets over the 20 sizes. There is a man named Charlie Kroll who is the son-in-law of Fred Bear of Bear Archery fame. Mr. Kroll (who used to be my neighbor in Blackhawk Colorado where I invented Gink) has done something nearly as marvelous and as difficult. Catching a ten pounder or greater trout of each species on a fly. He has them all except the Cutthroat. By the time he got to Reno, the big Cutts had already been pan-fried and are gone. I don’t think there is another 10 pound cutthroat left in the lower 48 but I think he can still find one in South America. That, remains to be seen. Mr. Gink – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How ravaged was she when 1983 came around? My first meeting with this fine fair princess was not a solitary affair, but I know the 14 years since since then have been brutal, accelerating with every season. Now, I can’t stand to see her. The agonizing destruction brought on by her own, complex beauty hurts too deeply. And the trout, tell me, give me an idea of just how much I missed. In 1983 she seemed in good health, but I have no other version of her to compare, except her violated ugly present state. Then, I thought I was still seeing at least a glimpse of what you two recall. Now I can only imagine…
How ravaged was she when 1983 came around? My first meeting with this fine fair princess was not a solitary affair, but I know the 14 years since since then have been brutal, accelerating with every season. Now, I can’t stand to see her. The agonizing destruction brought on by her own, complex beauty hurts too deeply. And the trout, tell me, give me an idea of just how much I missed. In 1983 she seemed in good health, but I have no other version of her to compare, except her violated ugly present state. Then, I thought I was still seeing at least a glimpse of what you two recall. Now I can only imagine…
Poignant, truthful and sad. Might as well build the Two Forks dam, just to put our mother out of her anguished misery. — TimW Halfordian Golfer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Comes now, thundering towards the lady, from over the horizon – the goat-fuckers of the Platte River. The crown jewel trout stream in the entire state. At least, I knew her when she was still virgin. Unmolested, unbaited, with wild rainbows as big and as long as your leg. Challenged, fought, released for another day. The genes of yesterday, saved for my tomorrows, and for the tomorrows of children then, yet unborn . . . who want to come now and kill you and your children that play in dark, clear, secret pools. From wheel-chairs, jeeps, skidoo’s, spinners, and campers filled with canning jars! Let us strip her garments, her flowing gowns and dress away. Strip her naked to be raped with drive up camp grounds so the goat-fuckers can cast from the seat of an open topped 4-WD, or float on down the center of the river in black, ugly truck inner-tubes, with rat-faced macdoogal, sun freckled rug rats screaming in your ears. Who wants to hear those peeping Water Oozels anymore, or the cheer of the blue-bird, or the rattling of the great woodpeckers in the pines? Its going to be more fun listening to those Coleman Electrical generators and some bitch screaming . . . "Didn’t I tell you to come eat these damned hamburgers?!!" Goodby, sweet Princess. We knew, one day you were going to be murdered. We all must die, someday but some of us, in the quiet reaches of Colorado’s Outdoors, do it better than others. Your death has begun and it will be a public affair attended by all of Denver this public hanging that has long been . . . overdue? Mr. G.
Comes now, thundering towards the lady, from over the horizon – the goat-fuckers of the Platte River. The crown jewel trout stream in the entire state. At least, I knew her when she was still virgin. Unmolested, unbaited, with wild rainbows as big and as long as your leg. Challenged, fought, released for another day. The genes of yesterday, saved for my tomorrows, and for the tomorrows of children then, yet unborn . . . who want to come now and kill you and your children that play in dark, clear, secret pools. From wheel-chairs, jeeps, skidoo’s, spinners, and campers filled with canning jars! Let us strip her garments, her flowing gowns and dress away. Strip her naked to be raped with drive up camp grounds so the goat-fuckers can cast from the seat of an open topped 4-WD, or float on down the center of the river in black, ugly truck inner-tubes, with rat-faced macdoogal, sun freckled rug rats screaming in your ears. Who wants to hear those peeping Water Oozels anymore, or the cheer of the blue-bird, or the rattling of the great woodpeckers in the pines? Its going to be more fun listening to those Coleman Electrical generators and some bitch screaming . . . "Didn’t I tell you to come eat these damned hamburgers?!!" Goodby, sweet Princess. We knew, one day you were going to be murdered. We all must die, someday but some of us, in the quiet reaches of Colorado’s Outdoors, do it better than others. Your death has begun and it will be a public affair attended by all of Denver this public hanging that has long been . . . overdue? Mr. G. Dear Mr. Gehrke: I was lucky enough, one time many years ago to meet you as I had watched you fishing above the Wigwam Club long before the paved roads were put in. When that long grade down into the Platte Canyon could literally kill you. When it was still wilderness. I watched you fish the big, deep pools from a huge boulder high above and you were below . . . and I
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » N. Fork American River (CA)
I fished the N. Fork Saturday and found only Smallmouth Bass. Really good ones, too, but no trout. Water was gin clear and warm. I fished the Yankee Jim access east of Colfax. Got buzzed by a Timber Ratltler, saw some homeless-types panning, and generally was disappointed. Am I selling this river short? Is there beter action upriver around Mumford Bar, and if so, how is the access? It seems like it could be a good resource and I know a portion of the river has Wild Trout status. Any info would be greatly appreciated. John Wallace
Hi John- The N.Fork American is a neat river. As you found out, there are some nice smallies out of Colfax. In the fall and early summer you’ll find rainbows and browns up and down the system as far as Lake Clementine. As the water warms the trout move upstream, into the springs, or into the deeper waters of the lake. To get into consistant (small but plentiful) summer trout you’ll have to hike in at one of the trails near Royal Gorge or get permission to access the river at The Cedars just south of Donner Summit (drive down the dirt rd past Serene Lakes and ask at one of the cabins. The timber rattle snake you saw is really a north pacific rattler. They do bite but generally go out of their way to avoid you. Don’t bother ‘em, they belong here (the browns and smallmouth don’t!). Wild waters, Ralph Cutter —
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Colorado Flyshops
I received a catalog in the mail from Angler’s Covey today…(since I’m VERY new to FFing, I’m not able to evaluate it…) The humorous part of it is, they had a note attached that said something to the effect of "Due to the overwhelming response for our 1995 catalog, we can only supply you with a prior year catalog…call for updated prices." It was a 1993 catalog…I wonder if the info on this group had anything to do with it? :) Fish on!, JC Angler’s Covey, Inc. 917 W. Colorado Ave. Colorado, Springs, CO. 80905 719-471-2984 800-753-4746 mail order Full service shop with anything you might need, including; gear, tackle, advice, guides, classes, etc. Nice, knowledgable folks. Mention my name. It shouldn’t run the prices up too much. Bryan
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No One mentioned my favorites in Denver The Complete Angler – Arapahoe Road & I-25 in Englewood Co (Denver Sub) Pricey but knowledge is abundant. Only First Class Stuff. All Pro Fish N’ Sport 6221 S. Sante Fe Littleton Co. 80120 Bigger selection harder to find Mike Peters —- Fishing, Camping, MWC, Home office, Colorado, Micrographics, Computers, Electronics, TV/VCR/Audio repair.
try the Front Range Angler in Boulder-great shop with great selection of flies/ equipment
: I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in : Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. : Dale Owens
I’ve had great luck with the St. Vrain Angler in Longmont (303) 776-5228. There’s another posting I just saw that gave the number a CO angling info line and for the Estes Angler (303) 586-2110, owned by the same guy. Both truly full service shops, guides are good teachers.
You asked I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in
Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dale Owens ****** Two good shops Front Range Angler — Boulder [303] 494-1375 Angler’s All — Littleton [303] 794-1104 Joe Lhotka Colorado USA
I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dale Owens
I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Saint Peter’s Fly in Fort Collins (303-498-8968) are a professional and friendly, congenial bunch of folks. Another good one is in Longmont on 4th street, but I forget the name. — -Wayne Trzyna
: I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in : Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. : Dale Owens Angler’s Covey, Inc. 917 W. Colorado Ave. Colorado, Springs, CO. 80905 719-471-2984 800-753-4746 mail order Full service shop with anything you might need, including; gear, tackle, advice, guides, classes, etc. Nice, knowledgable folks. Mention my name. It shouldn’t run the prices up too much. Bryan Remember: Fishing is NOT a matter of life and death. It is much more important than that! Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you get rid of him on weekends. Bryan Call (719)590-5772 |All opinions expressed here are mine & mine alone. Hewlett-Packard Co. | But then, I’ve never let that stop me before. P.O. BOX 2197 | Many men go fishing all their lives without Colorado Springs, Co 80901| knowing that it is not fish they are after.
try the Front Range Angler in Boulder-great shop with great selection of flies/ equipment : I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in : Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. : Dale Owens
ANGLER’S COVEY ON WEST COLORADO STREET (what else?) IN COLORADO SPRINGS. GOOD PEOPLE. KNOWLEDGEABLE. FRIENDLY. COOPERATIVE. (Orvis Shop, so it can be pricey, but what the heck – you can’t have everything). This flatland furriner stops there everytime I make my annual pilgrimage to the South Platte. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Trout Fly Fishing » HUCHEN TROUT
RB, Grayling is Rocky Mountain White Fish, even Blue (Artic) Grayling is not salmonoid. R.Ng
The Huchen is in the Amer River system in Germany, near Oberamergau. I never hooked one, but they run huge–up to 30 lbs. I gather that thy are akin to the salmon
Hi guys, OK it goes like this: There are many strains of salmonids and most of the are being fished for (grayling, A salmon, Brown trout…), but there is one that I have not read about in any fishing magazines or books.It is the Huchen Trout, supposedly living in the Danube basin which is in Slovakia. It is supposed to have a Bronze back and green body. It is huge. It is said that some fishermen were caught "poaching" when they thought they caught a trophy rainbow trout when in fact they had a baby Huchen Trout. As far as i know slovakian fishermen fished with live bait and lead core (not because of huchen’s sharp teeth but fishe’s strength). Does anyone have more info on this salmonid? Did anyone try fly fishing for it? I would welcome any info on this species. Thanks RB