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I will have a chance to fish the Green River in Utah (below Flaming Gorge) next weekend.  I can find info on what flies are hot (well kinda..most reports are at least 2 weeks old now), but can’t find any riggging info.

Here are a couple of reports that are only days old. http://www.flyshop.com/centers/index.cfm?category=rm In the left margin, click on "Professional Fishing Reports".  Scroll down and you will find two on the Green with some good, current info.  You can find other current reports at: http://www.wrflyfisher.com/condit/rivers.php3?id=6159c3882d75fe9a9b7d… 4c246 http://quickbyte.com/greenriver/ http://www.webcom.com/drifters/ http://quickbyte.com/oldmoe/ http://www.fishwest.net/utah/disc_toc.htm http://www.fishwest.net/utah/currentconditions/index.htm If you go to flyanglersonline.com and search for the Green River, you will also get some good info.  I didn’t read it all, but there might be some stuff of interest to you. I can surmise that since the river is getting low, that the fish will be skittish, and that a long leader with a fine tippet should be used.  But, does that mean a 5x, or a 7x,or what?

My suggestions would be to start with 5X and work your way down.  If fishing with hoppers and such, you might want to even go up to 4X.  Let the fish dictate what to use instead of newsgroup info.  Or you always could stop in a fly shop when you get there and ask them. I have never fished this river system, so any info that you fine folks would like to share would be greatly appreciated.

Me either.  Good luck and let us know how you do. — Warren Findley Remove (nospamZZ) to respond via email http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/

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I will have a chance to fish the Green River in Utah (below Flaming Gorge) next weekend.  I can find info on what flies are hot (well kinda..most reports are at least 2 weeks old now), but can’t find any riggging info.  I can surmise that since the river is getting low, that the fish will be skittish, and that a long leader with a fine tippet should be used.  But, does that mean a 5x, or a 7x,or what?

     I’ve always done well on the Green this time of year using stimulators in #10 or #12. Sometimes I’ll add an olive scud on a 2′ dropper, although I’d rather not. Another killer pattern this time of year is locally referred to as the "Hamburger Helper", it’s a #4 orangish-brown wooly bugger fished through the deeper spots. It’s a real bitch to cast, but it’ll take the biggest fish in the river.     If you go any smaller than a 4x you’ll break off a lot of fish.

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So this is how it’s gonna be!  Youz guyz are gonna be helpful to ever Tom, Dick and Hairy that stumbles upon this *site.*  Totally useless, I’m outta here! Op  –the dismayed–

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will have a chance to fish the Green River in Utah (below Flaming Gorge) next weekend.  I can find info on what flies are hot (well kinda..most reports are at least 2 weeks old now), but can’t find any riggging info.  I can surmise that since the river is getting low, that the fish will be skittish, and that a long leader with a fine tippet should be used.  But, does that mean a 5x, or a 7x,or what?      I’ve always done well on the Green this time of year using stimulators in #10 or #12. Sometimes I’ll add an olive scud on a 2′ dropper, although I’d rather not. Another killer pattern this time of year is locally referred to as the "Hamburger Helper", it’s a #4 orangish-brown wooly bugger fished through the deeper spots. It’s a real bitch to cast, but it’ll take the biggest fish in the river.     If you go any smaller than a 4x you’ll break off a lot of fish.

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So this is how it’s gonna be!  Youz guyz are gonna be helpful to ever Tom, Dick and Hairy that stumbles upon this *site.*  Totally useless, I’m outta here! Op  –the dismayed–

     HEY, HEY, HEY, NOW JUST A MINUTE!!  I was just trying to divert some guy away from my home water!

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So this is how it’s gonna be!  Youz guyz are gonna be helpful to ever Tom, Dick and Hairy that stumbles upon this *site.*  Totally useless, I’m outta here! Op  –the dismayed–

Blow you! TC, R

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All, I will have a chance to fish the Green River in Utah (below Flaming Gorge) next weekend.  I can find info on what flies are hot (well kinda..most reports are at least 2 weeks old now), but can’t find any riggging info.  I can surmise that since the river is getting low, that the fish will be skittish, and that a long leader with a fine tippet should be used.  But, does that mean a 5x, or a 7x,or what? I have never fished this river system, so any info that you fine folks would like to share would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Mike P.

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FWIW, several years ago I conducted an experiment to compare fluorocarbon tippet with "standard" tippet on a spring creek where the fish were somewhat leader-shy.  There really did not seem to be a significant difference between the two.  When fish approached my fly from the leader side, they tended to refuse my offering, but would take the fly if they approached from some other direction.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – been using orvis super strong 6x & 7x  tippet with good results. found out today they make a fluorocarbon tippet. told it is invisible in water! its slightly larger in dia. per equivalent test of mono though. its also pricey. $10.00/25 meters. any one tried it?

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: been using orvis super strong 6x & 7x  tippet with good results. found out : today they make a fluorocarbon tippet. told it is invisible in water! its : slightly larger in dia. per equivalent test of mono though. its also pricey. : $10.00/25 meters. : any one tried it? I haven’t tried the Orvis line … however I found the brand I used very useful for getting (dragging) small wet flies (18-20) through scummy surface films in backwaters and the like.  It certainly helps sink small wets that may otherwise tend to float in still water. steve

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says… Forget about it for dry flies. It’s too stiff, so it ruins the drag. My impression is that it’s best for streamers in large-tippet situations, like bonefishing. I’m planning to take a couple of spools of 10lb and 13lb fluorocarbon tippet to Xmas Island.

Berkley’s got a new line out called Vanish… It’s a Fluorocarbon Line but it’s much more supple than the other kinds I have tried. I have a spool of 12lb test I use for my salt water Fly Gear. I also use it for part of leaders as well in the butt section to make it stiffer… — Michael Era

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Scheduled for two weeks in Grand Cayman in June. Besides diving, I want to get in some flyfishing on the flats for bonefish, ect.. Need advice from someone who has been there on locations and fly selection. Tight lines, Tim Briggs

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Scheduled for two weeks in Grand Cayman in June. Besides diving, I want to get in some flyfishing on the flats for bonefish, ect.. Need advice from someone who has been there on locations and fly selection. Tight lines, Tim Briggs

Hi Tim, I have not gotten there yet, but have some info. An article was written a few years ago about fly fishing the Cayman’s. I guess there are bonefish, tarpon and permit on all three islands. The most famous location is the Southern Cross Club on Little Cayman Island. They have a web site. If you go on your own I would take a #7 or 8 weight rod with a floating line. Some 9′ or longer 0x leaders and 0x tippet. I would get the hardest, stiffest leaders you can find. I would take some Snapping Shrimp patterns in tan, brown, olive and pink. Find the shallowest water on the island where you can wade out far and stay in water that is less than 2 feet deep. Yellow to brown polarized glasses are necessary. When I first tried for bones, I just pretended I was nymphing to trout in the shallows of a large lake. I just put the fly in froint of them and moved it very little. Morning and evening is best with an incoming tide. If you just hook one, it will be worth it. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I have a  book  by Henry Van Dyke, entitled " Fishermans Dream", 1906 model with gold trout on the cover. This book is in excellent conditon, what is it worth? and who would buy it? Thanks, Jerry

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I have a  book  by Henry Van Dyke, entitled " Fishermans Dream", 1906 model with gold trout on the cover. This book is in excellent conditon, what is it worth? and who would buy it? Thanks, Jerry

Recheck the title. Sounds like you’re talking about one of the many editions of "Fishermans Luck" (1899) by that author- a $20-$25 (retail) item a few years back when I was into this sort of stuff.                                 Ray

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Several fly fishing books for sale from my collection.  E-Mail me for a listing of books with prices. JWTrout

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I am in the market for a new pair of float tube fins to replace the ones I currently use – which are Caddis fins. The new fins I am interested in buying are something called Force Fin float tube fins. They are advertised as being 40 – 60 percent more efficient than the average float tube fins on the market today. Here are some of my questions: 1. Has anyone used Force Fin float tube fins and found them better than the ones they previously used. 2. Does anyone knows how many models they have. 3. Do they (Force Fin) have a web site? Don. "May the fish be with you"

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I am in the market for a new pair of float tube fins to replace the ones I currently use – which are Caddis fins. The new fins I am interested in buying are something called Force Fin float tube fins. They are advertised as being 40 – 60 percent more efficient than the average float tube fins on the market today. Here are some of my questions: 1. Has anyone used Force Fin float tube fins and found them better than the ones they previously used.

Force fins are great if you have to hike in with them.  They are very light, and provide reasonable propulsion.   For most of my tubing, however, I use a longer, stiff scuba fin that gives me more power. 2. Does anyone knows how many models they have.

I think they have two, one fits all sizes, one comes in S, M. L. XL, etc. 3. Do they (Force Fin) have a web site?   Don’t know?

If you decide to buy them, I can put you in touch with someone who sells Force Fin cosmetic blems for a good price compared to full retail. John Woodling Sacramento, CA

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I’ve been using mine for three or four years and have no complaints. I do believe they are a little more powerful than my previous standard fins, and they are a little bit easier to "walk" in. Hope this helps! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am in the market for a new pair of float tube fins to replace the ones I currently use – which are Caddis fins. The new fins I am interested in buying are something called Force Fin float tube fins. They are advertised as being 40 – 60 percent more efficient than the average float tube fins on the market today. Here are some of my questions: 1. Has anyone used Force Fin float tube fins and found them better than the ones they previously used. 2. Does anyone knows how many models they have. 3. Do they (Force Fin) have a web site? Don. "May the fish be with you"

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Personally, if you are driving to the lake, or the walk is short, forget about anything but SCUBA PRO Jet fins.  With these large rubber fins you can tube for hours and hours and never tire.  Your maneuverablilty is unbelievable and best of all you can tube faster than most powerboats out there!!!

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Hi Donald: I don’t know if it really matters, but Force Fins are scuba fins.   They’re not super big hits in the diving community though.  It’s either because they don’t work as well as regular fins or because they look plain weird. Either way, I use regular, Scuba Pro-like fins for both diving and tubing.

<snip The thing is – I don’t want to pay $100+ for a pair of Force Fin fins if it does not perform at least as good as a pair of scuba fins.

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You may be right, I beginning to think that scuba fins are better than the Caddis fins, Flip fins, Force Fin fins, or any of the short float tube fins on the market today. One of the reasons I wanted to get a new pair of float tube fins is to be able to keep up with my friends who are using scuba type fins to propel themselves. But at the same time, I wanted to be able to wear my wading boots with my fins, something that Force Fin fins will allow me to do. I was also hoping that the Force Fin fins will at least allow me to have the same thrusting power as a good pair of scuba fins. But by some of the responses I have been getting from folks here, it seems that a good pair of scuba fins may be more superior to a pair of Force Fin fins when it comes to propelling one’s float tube on the water. The thing is – I don’t want to pay $100+ for a pair of Force Fin fins if it does not perform at least as good as a pair of scuba fins. On large lakes, one does not want to expend a lot of extra energy to propel a float tube after a 3+ hour hike to get to a high mountain lake. Don. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Personally, if you are driving to the lake, or the walk is short, forget about anything but SCUBA PRO Jet fins.  With these large rubber fins you can tube for hours and hours and never tire.  Your maneuverablilty is unbelievable and best of all you can tube faster than most powerboats out there!!!

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Look for fins that: 1- Cover your heel so you don’t chafe holes in your wet suit and don’t fill up easily with mud and sand when slogging around in the shallows. You can also wear booties to protect waders but it’s one more thing to buy, lug around and lose. 2- FLOAT. Diving fins are usually slightly negatively bouyant. Float tube fins do get scrubbed off when doing the heavy weed thing. Use tethers if your fins don’t float. 3- Flex rather easily. Diving fins are propelled by a slightly bent leg with most of the energy arising from the thigh, buttock and lower back. A float tube fin is propelled by the quads and a kick from the foot. Your legs will easily tire and your foot can cramp after heavy duty kicking with a long bladed, stiff dive fin. A flexy fin will sacrifice power up front but you’ll more than make up for it in the long run.    -Ralph – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You may be right, I beginning to think that scuba fins are better than the Caddis fins, Flip fins, Force Fin fins, or any of the short float tube fins on the market today. One of the reasons I wanted to get a new pair of float tube fins is to be able to keep up with my friends who are using scuba type fins to propel themselves. But at the same time, I wanted to be able to wear my wading boots with my fins, something that Force Fin fins will allow me to do. I was also hoping that the Force Fin fins will at least allow me to have the same thrusting power as a good pair of scuba fins. But by some of the responses I have been getting from folks here, it seems that a good pair of scuba fins may be more superior to a pair of Force Fin fins when it comes to propelling one’s float tube on the water. The thing is – I don’t want to pay $100+ for a pair of Force Fin fins if it does not perform at least as good as a pair of scuba fins. On large lakes, one does not want to expend a lot of extra energy to propel a float tube after a 3+ hour hike to get to a high mountain lake. Don. Personally, if you are driving to the lake, or the walk is short, forget about anything but SCUBA PRO Jet fins.  With these large rubber fins you can tube for hours and hours and never tire.  Your maneuverablilty is unbelievable and best of all you can tube faster than most powerboats out there!!!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You may be right, I beginning to think that scuba fins are better than the Caddis fins, Flip fins, Force Fin fins, or any of the short float tube fins on the market today. One of the reasons I wanted to get a new pair of float tube fins is to be able to keep up with my friends who are using scuba type fins to propel themselves. But at the same time, I wanted to be able to wear my wading boots with my fins, something that Force Fin fins will allow me to do. I was also hoping that the Force Fin fins will at least allow me to have the same thrusting power as a good pair of scuba fins. But by some of the responses I have been getting from folks here, it seems that a good pair of scuba fins may be more superior to a pair of Force Fin fins when it comes to propelling one’s float tube on the water. The thing is – I don’t want to pay $100+ for a pair of Force Fin fins if it does not perform at least as good as a pair of scuba fins. On large lakes, one does not want to expend a lot of extra energy to propel a float tube after a 3+ hour hike to get to a high mountain lake. Don. Personally, if you are driving to the lake, or the walk is short, forget about anything but SCUBA PRO Jet fins.  With these large rubber fins you can tube for hours and hours and never tire.  Your maneuverablilty is unbelievable and best of all you can tube faster than most powerboats out there!!!

As far as the wading bots go, I use scuba fins and a pair of good ol’ Converse tennies for boots, and they work great.  I can outrace my buddy in his force fins quite handily.  He gets into the tube and the water more easily, however.

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Good points all Ralph, but are you familiar with the "Jet Fin"?  It is quite flexible though it does not cover your heel.  By the way, how’s the situation at Martis?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am in the market for a new pair of float tube fins to replace the ones I currently use – which are Caddis fins. The new fins I am interested in buying are something called Force Fin float tube fins. They are advertised as being 40 – 60 percent more efficient than the average float tube fins on the market today. Here are some of my questions: 1. Has anyone used Force Fin float tube fins and found them better than the ones they previously used. 2. Does anyone knows how many models they have. 3. Do they (Force Fin) have a web site? Don. "May the fish be with you"

I know that Force Fins are very popular in northern California with the float-tubers. They make lots of models, but the fly shops usually carry the original model and the Adjustable. The originals come in sizes small, medium, medium/large, large, extra large and xx-large. The Adjustable come in one size and will fit over a boot or almost anything. The original sells for $85 to $99 and the Adjustable sells for $119 to $135. We sell the Caddis to people that are not traveling great distances in a day of fishing. They don’t float, so get some teethers. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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0] : I am in the market for a new pair of float tube fins to replace : the ones I currently use – which are Caddis fins. The new fins I : am interested in buying are something called Force Fin float tube : fins. They are advertised as being 40 – 60 percent more : efficient than the average float tube fins on the market today. : : Here are some of my questions: : : 1. Has anyone used Force Fin float tube fins and found them better : than the ones they previously used. : : 2. Does anyone knows how many models they have. : : 3. Do they (Force Fin) have a web site? : : Don. "May the fish be with you" If you would like some entertainment, try posting this question in rec.scuba and follow the resulting thread/holy-war. Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories Phone: (415)-857-5491               Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971

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Hope the season is fishing well for all!  The long winter here in Minnesota is finally a memmory.  The fishing has been great.  Going to visit Mom who is now living in Nova Scotia, Canada.  How is the fly fishing there.  Mid August.  Striped bass?  Bluefish?  Salmon? Should I pack the fly gear or dust off the surf casting rig?  Any input would be great.  Any questions about Minn/ western Wisconsin? Good fishing!

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The best spot in Nova Scotia is the Margaree Valley, and they are having some trouble there. Last fall we stayed at the Big Intervale Salmon Camp, in Cape Breton Nova Scotia, and cannot say enough great things about it. Absolutely wonderful host…Bill Davison (mum is head chef), but not many bites. Bill is very knowledgeable about the situation in Nova Scotia and I would be glad to track down a number at the lodge for you…we have something around here somewhere…also check out the Saint Mary’s River area on the Eastern Shore of the province…and also what might be happening in New Brunswick… Hope the season is fishing well for all!  The long winter here in Minnesota is finally a memmory.  The fishing has been great.  Going to visit Mom who is now living in Nova Scotia, Canada.  How is the fly fishing there.  Mid August.  Striped bass?  Bluefish?  Salmon? Should I pack the fly gear or dust off the surf casting rig?  Any input would be great.  Any questions about Minn/ western Wisconsin? Good fishing!

– http://fox.nstn.ca/~bpower

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    HELP!     New to this intriguing sport and would like info on hot spots     and tips for the Northern section of Illinois.                     Main interest is panfish but any info appreicated!             Thanks for your help,                     Kalvin

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Can you be a little more specific (Northern is pretty darn big). Any of the local ponds or forest preserves can provide panfishing. Really I mean any as the Bluegill isn’t the IL state fish for nuttin’! email me with approximate location and I will try to help. Do also check out http://www.flyflield.com They are located in the western burbs of Chicago and the store and web site are hot spots for all interested parties. Todd

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Oops!! I left out the "/" Here is the correct address for Fly & Field: http://www.flyfield.com/ Sorry, Todd

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    Thanks for the feedback!     What I’m looking for is hot spots between Kankakee River and Rockford. Panfish is plentiful near me but I’m having a hard time catching them on my fly rod.I need to know what type of line or weight of line and tippet to use and where to use them. I have many forest perserve ponds near my home but have been unsuccessful in catching anything.  I have read many books and have gone to many shows but no real info on panfish…everyone is interested in trout. Any help would be great…Thanks                       Kalvin.

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    Thanks for the feedback!     What I’m looking for is hot spots between Kankakee River and Rockford. Panfish is plentiful near me but I’m having a hard time catching them on my fly rod.I need to know what type of line or weight of line and tippet to use and where to use them. I have many forest perserve ponds near my home but have been unsuccessful in catching anything.  I have read many books and have gone to many shows but no real info on panfish…everyone is interested in trout. Any help would be great…Thanks                     Kalvin.

I love to fish for panfish in ponds.   I employ several tactics, both surface and subsurface, depending on conditions… Here are a few real simple ones… 1) long tippet – small nymph try a nice hunk of 5x (4 feet or so) and cast it to fish water.  Wait varying amounts of time before utilizing a hand-twist retrieve.   A lot of times the thing gets nailed while it is sinking…try a copper ribbed cates turkey nymph size 16-18. 2) Da Wooley Tie some #10 wooley buggers and use art foam for the body and rubber legs. Weight the body.  Cast to fishy water and retrieve in short jerks allowing line to just pile up at your feet. Hope this helps somehow… your pal, TimW

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Can you be a little more specific (Northern is pretty darn big). Any of the local ponds or forest preserves can provide panfishing. Really I

Check out latest issue of American Angler Magazene for an article on Kankakee river, 30 mi south of Chicago. Chuck Welby

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Looking for places to fish/boat in the chicagoland area? check out http://www.ripco.com/~jwn/, there are many depth maps posted for local lakes as well as a link to the illinois fishing page (which has weekly reports of what’s biting where) have fun

: :     Thanks for the feedback! : :     What I’m looking for is hot spots between Kankakee River and : Rockford. Panfish is plentiful near me but I’m having a hard time : catching them on my fly rod.I need to know what type of line or weight : of line and tippet to use and where to use them. I have many forest : perserve ponds near my home but have been unsuccessful in catching : anything.  I have read many books and have gone to many shows but no : real info on panfish…everyone is interested in trout. Any help would : be great…Thanks : :                     Kalvin. <snip — John Nelson Home Page:  http://www.ripco.com/~jwn/

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: Can you be a little more specific (Northern is pretty darn big). Any of : the local ponds or forest preserves can provide panfishing. Really I : Check out latest issue of American Angler Magazene for an article on : Kankakee river, 30 mi south of Chicago. : Chuck Welby Looking for places to fish/boat in the chicagoland area? check out http://www.ripco.com/~jwn/, there are many depth maps posted for local lakes as well as a link to the illinois fishing page (which has weekly reports of what’s biting where) have fun — John Nelson Home Page:  http://www.ripco.com/~jwn/

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Any good fishing within 100 miles of Phoenix?

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John, When I drove out to California from the East Coast, my southerly route took me through Arizona to visit a friend at Embry Riddle Univeristy in Prescott.  We fished a small stream that parallels the main road heading out of Sedona.  We caught some decent rainbows in the 10-13 inch class. I’m most certain that these were hatchery trout.  I would also guess that the Department of Fish and Game would be stocking that stream being spring time now.  Give it a try! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any good fishing within 100 miles of Phoenix?

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John, When I drove out to California from the East, my southerly route took me through Prescott to visit a friend at Embry Riddle University.  We went out and fished a small and scenic stream that parallels the main road heading out of Sedona.  We caught some decent rainbows in the 10-12 inch class which were I’m sure stocked fish.  I got em on black wooly buggers. Being Spring, I’d imagine they would be stocking soon.  Give it a try! Justin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any good fishing within 100 miles of Phoenix?

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I am new at this art, So I recived a gift of a 8′ # 7 rod with reel. Set up with a flouting line. I have a small pond near home that is stocked with browns and brook trout.  Is this setup to heavy and if not what type of fly should I get (buy) or should I get a lighter tackle. I need some advise. oh! I also took a class on casting a year ago so I think I now how to hold the rod and get a cast off.

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I am new at this art, So I recived a gift of a 8′ # 7 rod with reel. Set up with a flouting line. I have a small pond near home that is stocked with browns and brook trout.  Is this setup to heavy and if not what type of fly should I get (buy) or should I get a lighter tackle.

This is only an opinion of course, but I think a 7wt is heavy for trout. an 8′/7w might be great for bass – I’d even use it for schoolie striper fishing (if it was another foot longer). I have to believe an 8′ 7wt must feel a bit on the "clubby" side… If you haven’t used this rod/reel yet, perhaps you might be able to exchange it for a more "troutie" rod? I’d go for a 9′/5wt as an all-rounder trout/panfish rod myself… /dave (who caught and released 29 rainbow clones on a single Gray Ghost this         afternoon. The shredded remains were retired with full honors…;^) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <           "Read this and nobody gets hurt"           < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new at this art, So I recived a gift of a 8′ # 7 rod with reel. Set up with a flouting line. I have a small pond near home that is stocked with browns and brook trout.  Is this setup to heavy and if not what type of fly should I get (buy) or should I get a lighter tackle. This is only an opinion of course, but I think a 7wt is heavy for trout. an 8′/7w might be great for bass – I’d even use it for schoolie striper fishing (if it was another foot longer). I have to believe an 8′ 7wt must feel a bit on the "clubby" side… If you haven’t used this rod/reel yet, perhaps you might be able to exchange it for a more "troutie" rod? I’d go for a 9′/5wt as an all-rounder trout/panfish rod myself… /dave (who caught and released 29 rainbow clones on a single Gray Ghost this         afternoon. The shredded remains were retired with full honors…;^)

My first fly rod was a 7 wt also.  I used it for a season or so until I was sure I wanted to persue the sport (duh?).  Then I saved up and got a nice 5 wt.  The 7 wt is now my spare, and I haven’t used it since, although like Dave says, it would make a good bass rod, but I’d rather fish for trout.   A sunny day,      a box of midges,         and a wandering stream…   Man, this MUST be heaven!   <    Steve Kulpa    <<

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I am new at this art, So I recived a gift of a 8′ # 7 rod with reel. Set up with a flouting line. I have a small pond near home that is stocked with browns and brook trout.  Is this setup to heavy and if not what type of fly should I get (buy) or should I get a lighter tackle. I need some advise. oh! I also took a class on casting a year ago so I think I now how to hold the rod and get a cast off.

Go out right now and build an addition on to your house to store all your fishing equipment that you will eventually buy. I can’t afford to purchase all the rods that I would like to have.. But I have a great time with ones I have.. I fished with an 8wt for 15 years till I broke it just this past spring. I caught everything on that rod. from Trout on up to chinook salmon. I actually wore out a pfluger reel. So I guess what i’m saying is that the 7wt you have is fine for fishing on just about any waters in the US. Of course who wouldn’t want a nice little 9′ 5wt for going after trout, or maybe a 9′ 1wt for eastern brook trout or farm pond bluegill.. I’ve only purchased three rods in my lifetime. My first 8wt.. my new 7wt.. and then a powerhouse of a rod a 9.5′ 10wt. I got a tuna on the 10wt just last september. But I sincerly believe that the 8wt could have handled it with a large enough spool capacity. Anyway, thats my story.. and I’m sticking to it.. keg

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Dave, There are lots of differences in fly rods. It’s hard to say that a 8′ 7 weight rod is definitely too big for your conditions.  Athough, I would venture to say that most fly fishers would tend to tell you that. Give it try.  If your horseing fish out of your pond as if your holding a broom stick, you might consider something smaller.  Contrary to poplular believe, you don’t have to spend a small fortune on a fly rod that will give you many hours of enjoyment. Dave Burks, Loveland, CO.

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If you are talking about regular woven bodies?  You tie your two flosses in at the bend in the hook and simple tie a series of single over hand knots.  Always tie in the same pattern left over right or right over left and you will wind up with light on top or bottom.  Pick the pattern you want and go with it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I unfortunately can’t identify the publication. There was an article in a recent issue (either Dec. or Jan.) of Flyfisherman that described a technique for making woven bodied nymphs using two different colors of floss.  The article described some nymphs using a light and dark shade of heavy brown floss.  I had some olive and yellow floss so I tried a few.  I ended up creating some really nice looking green rockworm nymphs The process for creating the body is fairly time consuming when compared to a dubbed body so I assume that has something to do with cost.   I’m not sure if this was actually for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis but the instructions had a "key" step for starting the weave at the beginning that is supposed to make it easier.  Unfortunately the text had a typo in it.  It had you start with one color of floss in your left hand.  Then is said to put the other color in you left hand and I’m sure that one of those "lefts" was suppose to be a "right" but it was unclear how to figure it out from the rest of the text. — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA "Ask me about my vow of silence."

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<Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis patterns? Davy is going to be at the Midwest Fly Show Jan 6,7, and 8th in Westmont, IL 400 E. Ogden Ave.  He will be tying all three days and I am sure he will be more than happy to answer any questions you have in regards to the Polish Woven Nymph.  He did not originate this pattern but he ties them as well or better than the original.  If you want more info on the Midest Fly Show call me @ 1-800-328-9753 or E mail.                                                           Marcos

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven : Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly : looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern : was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I : unfortunately can’t identify the publication. : Any and all help would be appreciated. Well B, it was the Sept/Oct 94 issue of Fly-Fishing and Fly-TYing. They certainly look good and aren’t that difficult to tie once you’ve done a few. The description is quite lengthy but if you can find anything on a SHUTTLE weave it should get you started. Some points I’ve noticed while fiddling with them:    - a correctly proportioned, smoothly tapered underbody is req’d    - you need a widish gape hook.    - surprisingly little lead is req’d – smoothish body sinks well.    - rayon flosses are slippery to use but can be managed    - wool is good    - Don’t neglect peacock herl    - use wool on size 6 hooks to practice    - leave materials in on the spool (don’t cut off lengths) it helps      with handling and tensioning. OB PATTERN    Wet beatle/nymph –    hook: Kamasan B175 Heavy traditional – size 10/12 mash barb.    thread: black    rib: fine copper wire with red tinge.    underbody: fine lead wire to suit application, build up nicely    tapered UB with thread AFTER tying in flosses,herls rib.    Body: woven – 3 peacock herl strands in rope with thread on top    the bottom being an orange floss heavy.    Head: BIG – BLACK and lacquered.    TIP – leave the herl rope and bobbin connected it helps with    maintaining the right tension    It is representative of some beetles we have about at the moment    and is very moorish to the fish (Browns). Have fun steve

Not to drop names, but I will be seeing Davy this weekend and would be pleased to obtain any additional info on this fly. E-Mail me at: am not sure if my net provider has a local #.

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Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I unfortunately can’t identify the publication. Any and all help would be appreciated.

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Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I unfortunately can’t identify the publication.

There was an article in a recent issue (either Dec. or Jan.) of Flyfisherman that described a technique for making woven bodied nymphs using two different colors of floss.  The article described some nymphs using a light and dark shade of heavy brown floss.  I had some olive and yellow floss so I tried a few.  I ended up creating some really nice looking green rockworm nymphs The process for creating the body is fairly time consuming when compared to a dubbed body so I assume that has something to do with cost.   I’m not sure if this was actually for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis but the instructions had a "key" step for starting the weave at the beginning that is supposed to make it easier.  Unfortunately the text had a typo in it.  It had you start with one color of floss in your left hand.  Then is said to put the other color in you left hand and I’m sure that one of those "lefts" was suppose to be a "right" but it was unclear how to figure it out from the rest of the text. — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA "Ask me about my vow of silence."

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: Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven : Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly : looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern : was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I : unfortunately can’t identify the publication. : Any and all help would be appreciated. Well B, it was the Sept/Oct 94 issue of Fly-Fishing and Fly-TYing. They certainly look good and aren’t that difficult to tie once you’ve done a few. The description is quite lengthy but if you can find anything on a SHUTTLE weave it should get you started. Some points I’ve noticed while fiddling with them:         – a correctly proportioned, smoothly tapered underbody is req’d         – you need a widish gape hook.         – surprisingly little lead is req’d – smoothish body sinks well.         – rayon flosses are slippery to use but can be managed         – wool is good         – Don’t neglect peacock herl         – use wool on size 6 hooks to practice         – leave materials in on the spool (don’t cut off lengths) it helps           with handling and tensioning. OB PATTERN         Wet beatle/nymph –         hook: Kamasan B175 Heavy traditional – size 10/12 mash barb.         thread: black         rib: fine copper wire with red tinge.         underbody: fine lead wire to suit application, build up nicely         tapered UB with thread AFTER tying in flosses,herls rib.         Body: woven – 3 peacock herl strands in rope with thread on top         the bottom being an orange floss heavy.         Head: BIG – BLACK and lacquered.         TIP – leave the herl rope and bobbin connected it helps with         maintaining the right tension         It is representative of some beetles we have about at the moment         and is very moorish to the fish (Browns). Have fun steve

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