Hi Adam, I guess I would try to get in the front of the boat and get the smallest other fisherman in the back in case you have to work him over. I am sure that they have this combo all the time and will work it out for you. Email me a good picture for my web site. Good luck. PS: Have tried fishing Isla Holbox for tarpon yet ? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For the last 12 years almost all my fishing is done with a fly rod (before that it was spinning rod). This includes bass and pickerel (mostly on poppers) in NJ and FL, and saltwater inshore species. For the past two years I’ve been lucky enough to get my ass down to Venezuela for peacock bass on the fly rod (have also been fishing for them in Miami canals for about 9 years). Unbelievable fish and an unbelievable kick, as you know if you’ve fished for these awesome fish. In both instances, I either fish with other fly rodders or fished alone. As I don’t have experience fishing for peacocks out of the same boat with conventional casters, I would like some advise on how best to work things out. In September I’ll be going to Brazil to go after the big guys (upwards to 30#). I don’t know any of the other guys who will be going, but I do know that they will be using regular casting gear (baitcasting and spinning). So here are my questions. I have concerns on how to work it out with whoever I fish with. I know that all day they will be chucking big noise making stuff and will probably be able to cast well over 100′, whereas in order not to rip my arm off, I’ll be casting around 60′ (I can cast further, but not all day with the big flies and poppers I’ll be casting without dislocating my shoulder). This can put me at a great disadvantage in that if the guide holds the boat well off the shore line or fish holding structure, I won’t be able to reach the preferred spots. And, the truth of the matter is as nothing scares the peacocks (like boat engine/motor noise, etc), holding the boat 60′ off the shore or structure wouldn’t make a difference in the catch rate. Of course, casting big distances into open water areas is not a problem. How do you guys feel this can be worked out, or is the problem only in my mind? Also, what about the rate at which the boat moves? Whether I’m in the middle or in the front of the boat, slow moving is better for me as I can’t repeat cast as fast as my partners can. I’m thinking that they might be more used to a faster troll and have problems with this. Your opinions, please. Thanks again, Adam
For the last 12 years almost all my fishing is done with a fly rod (before that it was spinning rod). This includes bass and pickerel (mostly on poppers) in NJ and FL, and saltwater inshore species. For the past two years I’ve been lucky enough to get my ass down to Venezuela for peacock bass on the fly rod (have also been fishing for them in Miami canals for about 9 years). Unbelievable fish and an unbelievable kick, as you know if you’ve fished for these awesome fish. In both instances, I either fish with other fly rodders or fished alone. As I don’t have experience fishing for peacocks out of the same boat with conventional casters, I would like some advise on how best to work things out. In September I’ll be going to Brazil to go after the big guys (upwards to 30#). I don’t know any of the other guys who will be going, but I do know that they will be using regular casting gear (baitcasting and spinning). So here are my questions. I have concerns on how to work it out with whoever I fish with. I know that all day they will be chucking big noise making stuff and will probably be able to cast well over 100′, whereas in order not to rip my arm off, I’ll be casting around 60′ (I can cast further, but not all day with the big flies and poppers I’ll be casting without dislocating my shoulder). This can put me at a great disadvantage in that if the guide holds the boat well off the shore line or fish holding structure, I won’t be able to reach the preferred spots. And, the truth of the matter is as nothing scares the peacocks (like boat engine/motor noise, etc), holding the boat 60′ off the shore or structure wouldn’t make a difference in the catch rate. Of course, casting big distances into open water areas is not a problem. How do you guys feel this can be worked out, or is the problem only in my mind? Also, what about the rate at which the boat moves? Whether I’m in the middle or in the front of the boat, slow moving is better for me as I can’t repeat cast as fast as my partners can. I’m thinking that they might be more used to a faster troll and have problems with this. Your opinions, please. Thanks again, Adam
I would think that holding in a little closer so that you can cast also shouldn’t be a problem for the other guys or the guide, if they are sporting types. Further, I don’t think that they would want to be at max range casting for peacocks. Those fish tend to live in some of the meanest cover there is if I’m not mistaken. You don’t want a mile of line out there with a fish that lives in snags. At least, I sure don’t! As far as working things out regarding who casts when- even two baitcaster types must do this if one guy is using a 7′ rod and the other is using a 6 1/2′ footer or longer in a smaller bass boat…you’d just have to co-ordinate casts. Work it out with your boat mate, and develop a rhythm. My partners and I would "leapfrog cast" an entire shoreline during club tournaments, staying out of each other’s way in the rhythm pattern. Further, as far as not being able to cast as frequently to the same area, how much line can you have out and still do a roll cast? You should be able to put the fly right back on the same spot that way, or walk it along an area, if the trolling motor is moving you at a fairly brisk pace, I would think. My fly rodding has been limited to the local river and farm ponds, so can’t tell you about the roll cast in a bass boat much…hmmmmm perhaps I need to do some field work on this and write an article….. ’Hope this helps some… B3
i have been fly fishing for a few years but have never really used buzzers!! i live in scotland uk and i would like any help on how to fish and use buzzers
i have been fly fishing for a few years but have never really used buzzers!! i live in scotland uk and i would like any help on how to fish and use buzzers
Buzzers are usually called midges or chironomids on this side of the pond, so doing this google search will turn up more information than you can possible need: http://www.google.com/search?q=flyfishing+buzzers+OR+chironomids Kevin
Nick Reeves writes: i have been fly fishing for a few years but have never really used buzzers!! i live in scotland uk and i would like any help on how to fish and use buzzers
If I remember correctly, your "buzzers" are our chironomids. See this site: http://www.fineflies.com/Articles/chrinomid_technique.htm Dave
i have been fly fishing for a few years but have never really used buzzers!! i live in scotland uk and i would like any help on how to fish and use buzzers
some of the best information on fishing buzzers (or chironomids) can be found in the writings of brian chan of british columbia. i’m sure an internet search about chironomid lake fishing in the western us and british columbia will lead to many excellent suggestions if finding the lake fishing books is difficult in scotland. i’m not a lake fisherman myself, so i don’t have the titles of books on the top of my head, but checking with amazon would probably give you the titles. chris
i have been fly fishing for a few years but have never really used buzzers!! i live in scotland uk and i would like any help on how to fish and use buzzers
not a chance, bub. unethical. your friend in the old north state wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
i have been fly fishing for a few years but have never really used buzzers!! i live in scotland uk and i would like any help on how to fish and use buzzers
Here is the list of pages that I have book marked: www.guidebc.com/flypatterns.html – scroll down to Chironomid patterns http://www.coastnet.com/~rpike/nov00.htm http://www.flyfishusa.com/flies/midges.htm http://www.sci.ouc.bc.ca/fwsc/iwalker/intpanis/ http://www.fishbc.com/adventure/angling/protalk/rowley/sinking.phtml http://www.sportfishingbc.com/fishing/flyfishing_midges.htm http://www.science.mcmaster.ca/Biology/Harbour/SPECIES/CHIRONO/HOME.html http://www.flyfisherbc.com/chironomidpatterns.html http://www.flyshop.com/bench/features/06-01Midges/frames.html http://www.telusplanet.net/public/cnangler/html/fom9798.htm#fom3 http://www.oppub.com/bcfroa/03fish/03methods.html http://www.fishbc.com/adventure/angling/protalk/chan/confession.phtml http://www.fineflies.com/Articles/chrinomid_technique.htm http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/bugs/chironomid/chironomid. phtml http://www.fishbc.com/adventure/angling/flies/chironomid/larva.phtml http://www.virtualflybox.com/swaps/chir.html http://www.fishing-in-wales.com/wildlife/insects/diptera/buzzer1.htm http://members.attcanada.ca/~aelliott/chironomid.html Some of these links are articles that describe methods, habitat, etc and others contain fly patterns. Some of these have both. Hope they help. — Warren www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt
For a simple start: Take a dry fly that floats well and you think will catch fish. Tie a length of appropriate size tipet for the size of the midge to the bend of the dry fly hook with an improved cinch knot. Tie the midge so it trails about 10 inches (26 cm if Scotland is metric) in back of the dry fly. Fish the dry fly. Consider the dry fly both a lure and a bobber ( pardon me -"Strike Indicator"). Lou
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<delightfully perverse poetry snipped Artfully done, Mr. Connor! It never would have occurred to me to rhyme "succour" and "motherfucker". I lay my sword at your feet.
Could I borrow it to "slay the dragon"? This abyss is a bit of a trial at times. TL MC
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …….I refuse to respond to Mike Con again…… Oh, nobody’s EVER gonna remember THIS line! Wolfgang is it just me or have absolutes somehow become…..well, less absolute? Naw, it’s just a matter of abstract perspective…
Some are more abstract than others. MC
YES SIR! I read you loud and clear. You got my attention Nightbutcher! I consider myself chewed out and you’re right. I refuse to respond to Mike Con again.. Gosh! I needed that.
I hear Las Vegas is taking bets on this one right now.
YES SIR! I read you loud and clear. You got my attention Nightbutcher! I consider myself chewed out and you’re right. I refuse to respond to Mike Con again.. Gosh! I needed that.
Thank you 
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says… Sir, you are apparently attempting to abridge my right of free speech. There are some on here who will take you to task for that.
Not at all – just trying to abridge a pointless and childish contest on ALL sides that is really starting to irritate the rest of the people who lurk here. You always have the right to speak out against my speaking out (in fact you just did), just as I have the right to tell you and George to shut the hell up and give it a break. Surprising how many psychiatrists we suddenly have on here. Where were you when you were needed?
Not a psychiatrist, and I was lurking, hoping it would all go away and settle down like real adults. I was not aware of any unduly unsteady motion. Threats of physical violence, or being actually touched with a cursed object, are relatively futile threats. Your kill-file option would seem the more sensible of those available. Inserting sticks up somebodies rectum ,is then, in your opinion, an adult way of pursuing things? Strikes me as simply shit being pushed the wrong way.
Better than the shit that’s being pushed this way under the guise of rational Usenet posts….. and that applies to BOTH of you. I refuse to take sides. "If you dont like it dont read it". Is I believe the standard panacea for all ills, real or perceived, at this present time?
Too true. I herewith retire back to lurking yet again. Plonkity plonk…. — NightStalker Email addy is nightstalker87 at hot(you know).com
<SNIP "If you dont like it dont read it". Is I believe the standard panacea for all ills, real or perceived, at this present time? Too true. I herewith retire back to lurking yet again. Plonkity plonk…. — NightStalker Email addy is nightstalker87 at hot(you know).com
My apologies for coming down so heavily on you, for what was in fact a perfectly reasonable post. I am perhaps a trifle oversensitive regarding criticism of my actions at this present time. Being compared to Gehrke, or indeed even being mentioned in the same post, is also not exactly flattering. It was not my intention to upset an honest poster, who is just sick of shit. I therefore beg your indulgence. Your apparent decision to use a kill-file on something you do not want to see, is eminently sensible. TL MC
With Red Tags on in fact.
An Aussie? A New Zealander? ?? Steve
Sheath the sword, ’twas bound to happen, LR’s come up with a better weapon. Connor and I’ve looked in the abyss, I think it’s best that we fill it with piss. A little Harp, a Weiss Bier, fill the Flagon! Stand on the rim, drown the fucking dragon. the meter needs work, but aren’t those some nice rhymes? Succour – motherfucker. Masterful. I never stop learning from you, Mike.
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I’ll have to come over there and insert a bastard rod into two assholes – sideways. With hooks attached. With Red Tags on in fact. With Clowser Minnows as droppers even……
ethical. (don’t forget to post a TR on the chromes, have a great trip). — The Halfordian Golfer The deceipt ends with the lure.
….Gather round good anglers, be bright and perky,
A delight to see you again, sweetie! Sandy — "…the sport and game of angling is the true means and cause that brings a man into a merry spirit, which…makes a flowering age and a long one." ~~ Dame Juliana Berners 1496
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Dear lady, the pleasure is all mine. I am very happy indeed to see you on here. I feared indeed that events might have obliged you to depart.Hope you got some good fishing in during my absence. TL MC
With Red Tags on in fact. An Aussie? A New Zealander? ?? Steve
Aussie – Red Tag works well in most conditions in Tasmanian Highland Lakes 
) — NightStalker Email addy is nightstalker87 at hot(you know).com
Hope you got some good fishing in during my absence.
A little, and I have made good progress on my rod collection, too. <g Fall and early winter mean a great deal of work and little spare time for me, but I emerge again in spring, ready to play. Hope to get in a day’s fishing here and there on weekends despite the awful schedule. Sandy — "…the sport and game of angling is the true means and cause that brings a man into a merry spirit, which…makes a flowering age and a long one." ~~ Dame Juliana Berners 1496
Aussie – Red Tag works well in most conditions in Tasmanian Highland Lakes )
So I’ve heard, but comparing the situation you were going to use them in and the Highlands … well … ;-) Perhaps we’ll hear some of your exploits in the Highlands one of these days … Steve (bemoaning the fact that ANOTHER Bass Strait crossing looks like being postponed)
…….I refuse to respond to Mike Con again…… Oh, nobody’s EVER gonna remember THIS line! Wolfgang is it just me or have absolutes somehow become…..well, less absolute?
Notice the out he left himself there, though. — rbc: vixen Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli
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Stick around. You ain’t seen NUTHIN yet! :) Wolfgang where else ya gonna get the fourth of july six, seven, eight times a year?
My commiserations to your unfortunate guests. Must be hell. Do you allow them to fly your sabres around the studio? Does that drown out the piano?How many fingers am I holding up? There is a man who sometimes makes, nasty oily stuff, and burns a lot of stakes, He is sadly often seen on here, suffering from chronic verbal diarreah. This of course is very very sad, but things would not be quite as bad, if the asshole did not really stink, or try to sell his stakes and gink. Despite all pleas, he still remains, a curse, like something from the drains, vile and putrid, seemingly beyond chastisement, indulging yet again his lunacy, and aggrandisement. His lies and silly tales are quite beyond the pale, over his poor manners, we must draw a veil, and still, try to believe it if you can, the ignorant boorish oaf thinks he
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Brewing’s about it anymore, and I don’t get as much time to do that as I’d like. I used to love photography, especially sports photography. I used to go to hockey games alot and take pictures of the players. I live in Philadelphia. I have an autographed 8 x 10 that I took of Flyers goalie Pelle Lindbergh that may actually be the very last autograph he ever signed before he died. I wish I could prove it. I caught him outside the stadium right after the last game he played, which was against Washington. He signed the picture, then I watched him get in his car, and I heard the next morning he was dead. I also have lots of old hockey, baseball, and football cards. Aside from beer, I also make some wine, but mostly just from kits. I like to cook, and make bread. Actually made bread before I made beer. Would like to try making cheese at some point. It all seems to go toghether. I always wanted to learn to make desserts, like cakes and stuff. Bill
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Just *do* you cook a train? :0) I’m hoping to swing by Valley Park, MO on this summer’s vacation to see the "Whittle Shortline" folks and their wooden trains. My son’s not old enough for highly scaled N gauge yet.
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Let’s see now….. 1. Home brewing……Oooorah! 2. RC model building (and flying). 3. Keeping planted aquariums. 4. Gardening. 5. Woodworking….or as SWMBO calls it….screwing around in the garage. Dan
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Rod builders out there . . . The subject company (a small business I suspect) offers graphite rod building kits for about $70. No manufacturer mentioned for the blanks. I am considering this as a good way to build a first rod and learn without spending big bucks on a good blank. The rod would then be used for teaching my 9 year old to cast and if I learn how to build a rod and feel confident, I’ll do one on a nice blank. Anyway: Have any of you folks built a rod from this guy and can you tell me if it was reasonable quality. I don’t want to pay $70 and find out it is junk. The web site is: http://www.jbrodco.com/ Let me know, Jim
Jim You could spend more for less at wally world, if you want or expect a custom sage, forget it. What do you want for 70 bucks..? Why don’t you ask him what kind of hardware is included..? You maybe should ask him to put it together for you too.
As I indicated – I am looking for a good starter set of components I can use to learn on, before building a Sage or similar blank. I have no issue with spending a few bucks on good components or a completed rod (as all my rods are today) I want to try rod-building. I have asked him about the stuff, but I was looking for other opinions from those who may have actually bought a kit and used them. Jim * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Hi Jim, As stated by another responding to you, ask the seller what components come with the kit. Things to look for are what the blank is made from, who makes it, is it fast or slow action, what is the warranty on the blank, does he have any references of those who have already built from the kit. Next I would get the name of the manufacturer of the various components, I.E., reel seat, guides (ask how many stripping guides), cork handle, thread, type of finishing materials included and any other stuff you can think of. I would than look on the net to compare prices or get a few catalogs from places like Angler’s Workshop, Head & Tails, Cabelas, Dale Clemens and whomever else you can think of who sells blanks and rod building gear. There are rod building sights on the net in addition to magazines devoted to the subject. You might want to check out Fly Rod & Reel and Fly Fishing and Tying Journal. I have seen classified ads in these magazines for blanks and kits. I have found blanks in the past that are absolutely incredible. Some are only $3-4 per foot, and are so good that I can not, for the life of me, explain how the big guys like Sage, Loomis, T&T and others get so much for their blanks/rods. Good luck with your project. No matter what you eventually purchase, you will enjoy the process with your son and it will help you make informed decisions for future projects. Pete
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rod builders out there . . . The subject company (a small business I suspect) offers graphite rod building kits for about $70. No manufacturer mentioned for the blanks. I am considering this as a good way to build a first rod and learn without spending big bucks on a good blank. The rod would then be used for teaching my 9 year old to cast and if I learn how to build a rod and feel confident, I’ll do one on a nice blank. Anyway: Have any of you folks built a rod from this guy and can you tell me if it was reasonable quality. I don’t want to pay $70 and find out it is junk. The web site is: http://www.jbrodco.com/ Let me know, Jim * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Rod builders out there . . . The subject company (a small business I suspect) offers graphite rod building kits for about $70. No manufacturer mentioned for the blanks. I am considering this as a good way to build a first rod and learn without spending big bucks on a good blank. The rod would then be used for teaching my 9 year old to cast and if I learn how to build a rod and feel confident, I’ll do one on a nice blank. Anyway: Have any of you folks built a rod from this guy and can you tell me if it was reasonable quality. I don’t want to pay $70 and find out it is junk. The web site is: http://www.jbrodco.com/ Let me know, Jim * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
What the general consensus on fly floating. Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?
I have always liked Gink. When it hits the cold water, it thickens up and tends to stay on. I fish streams quite a bit and it seems to stay on longer/better than most floatants. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What the general consensus on fly floating. Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?
Dave, I heard Mr. G. made Xink to sink flies because some people put too much Gink on their fly and couldn’t keep them on the water. — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-Mail Selling my Fly Fishing Books Go to: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<What the general consensus on fly floating. Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last? I have started to use a desicant (drying crystals). The Orvis brand seems to be the best. After catching a fish, simply wash off the fly in the stream, put it in desicant, shake, false cast once or twice and you are back in business. If I *must* use a floatant, it is Gink or Albolene (an unscented cleanser). You can buy a 12 oz jar of Albolene in a drug store and it will last you tens of years. Don’t ever confuse Gink with Xink, however. I did — Adam’s sunk like a stone! ;0) Dave LaCourse
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What the general consensus on fly floating. Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?
At least one very significant mail-order fly fishing catelog and guide service repackages Albolene Face Cream as their house brand of floatant. It works as well as anything, but if you buy it in the pharmacy it is about $2.99 for 8 ounces, instead of $4.99 for 1/4 ounce. There are really 4 different situations. 1) pretreatment for a newly minted fly. 2) streamside treatment for a fly ready to fish 3) streamside treatment for a wet fly. In situation 1 I like a silicon type penetrating fluid. It takes too long to dry for streamside use, but does an excellent job of creating a long floating fly. Depending on the fly, at streamside I like either a paste type floatant for elkhair based flies (Elk Hair Caddis, Stimulators, etc…) where the delecacy of the fly is not easily compromised. If the fly is easily smashed — hackles matted down — I like an aerosol like Osprey brand floatant. Finally, if a fly is drowned and you have to resuscitate it, one of the powder type treatments will work nicely. Depending on the water conditions and how many fish you catch, a well treated fly can keep floating well for a half hour of use. If in doubt, dry it out. If you are using the paste type treatment, wipe the extra off your fingers on the last 2 feet of your fly line. This will help keep the line from dragging the fly underwater. Happy fishin!
Gink. Hands down.
<<What the general consensus on fly floating. Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last? I have started to use a desicant (drying crystals). The Orvis brand seems to be the best. After catching a fish, simply wash off the fly in the stream, put it in desicant, shake, false cast once or twice and you are back in business. If I *must* use a floatant, it is Gink or Albolene (an unscented cleanser). You can buy a 12 oz jar of Albolene in a drug store and it will last you tens of years. Don’t ever confuse Gink with Xink, however. I did — Adam’s sunk like a stone! ;0) Dave LaCourse
What the general consensus on fly floating. Who makes the best,
"Gee"……what a question:-) — Bill
What the general consensus on fly floating. Who makes the best, what’s the best home made mixture and how long (number of casts/minutes) should it last?
There is no consensus because the best for natural materials (fur and feather fibre) is unlikely to be also the best for synthetics (e.g. polypropylene.) If they can get the materials they want, many tyers use no floatant at all. — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
what do you know about blue water fly fishing out of la paz, mexico?
what do you know about blue water fly fishing out of la paz, mexico?
All the Mexican Guides kill the fish. Mr. G.
3M makes a fly line dressing that brings out the natural lubricants in the line itself and puts more on it. Great Great Great STuff
writes: Has anybody tried "lard" (yes, I mean pure porky lard for cooking) or any other greasy-oily domestic product?
In the Bad Old Days of silk lines, commercial line dressings contained lanolin (i.e., mutton fat), but what good lard would do on a vinyl-covered line, I don’t know. Silicones act like oils but are much less sensitive to changes in temperature (and do not become rancid!) Wash your line in warm water and mild soap, rinse, then wipe dry with a soft cloth. You will be surprised how much better a clean line floats and shoots than a dirty one. – Roger
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Does anybody know of any domestic product we could use to apply on fly lines instead of these expensive silicone products a careful fisherman must buy many times a year in order to protect his line? Has anybody tried "lard" (yes, I mean pure porky lard for cooking) or any other greasy-oily domestic product? Fly fishing is older than "silicone" I believe, so what would ancient fly fishers use on their lines? …of course we know they didn’t use synthetic lines as we do now, but still! I am asking before I try for I am bored by the commercial aspect of fishing. And I do go fishing every day. If some of you fly fishers out there would kindly give me informations on this by E-Mail, I would gather the answer and publish them in an article here in the NewsGroup. It might be helpful for all of us. If I get no answer, well next year I’ll know because I’ll try a few tricks. Thanks for reading me. If you got any answer you can mail ‘em to me (Jean-Pierre) at E-Mail address:
I think that a can of Mucilin is about as much as a mocha? William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA
Does anybody know of any domestic product we could use to apply on fly lines instead of these expensive silicone products a careful fisherman must buy many times a year in order to protect his line? Has anybody tried "lard" (yes, I mean pure porky lard for cooking) or any other greasy-oily domestic product? Fly fishing is older than "silicone" I believe, so what would ancient fly fishers use on their lines? …of course we know they didn’t use synthetic lines as we do now, but still! I am asking before I try for I am bored by the commercial aspect of fishing. And I do go fishing every day. If some of you fly fishers out there would kindly give me informations on this by E-Mail, I would gather the answer and publish them in an article here in the NewsGroup. It might be helpful for all of us. If I get no answer, well next year I’ll know because I’ll try a few tricks. Thanks for reading me. If you got any answer you can mail ‘em to me (Jean-Pierre) at E-Mail address:
This may be old info, and I can’t vouch for the truth in it, but I found this to be funny. An article I read recently said that PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) had not copyrighted "PETA" acronym. By not doing so, it was left open to be used by any other group that might choose to copyright it. (Snip) How about ‘People Enraged at the Tactics of Assholes’?
Dee Crabtree
Dear All; PETA humor is an oxymoron. PETA people have no sense of humor. Popping Extra Tumms Antacids Perpetually Engendered to Thoughtless Activities Profanity, Epithets and Terrorist Activities Geez, I’m out! (That first one is pretty far out there! It’s funny if you keep reading it or saying it over to yourself. Handgrenade humour.) Sincerely JB
This may be old info, and I can’t vouch for the truth in it, but I found this to be funny. An article I read recently said that PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) had not copyrighted "PETA" acronym. By not doing so, it was left open to be used by any other group that might choose to copyright it. (Snip) How about ‘People Enraged at the Tactics of Assholes’?
check out www.peta.org (people eating tasty animals) I think.. -Dan-
Please join my PETA group today !!! "Persons Enjoying Trout Almondine " TimW
Iwould like to start a local chapter of PETA; People Extremely Tired of Assholes Dale
Iwould like to start a local chapter of PETA; People Extremely Tired of Assholes Dale
And who would make up the charter membership, Dan ??? Dee Crabtree
Quoting fuscor6285 from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly < An article I read recently said that PETA (People for the Ethical < Treatment of Animals) had not copyrighted "PETA" acronym. By not < doing so, it was left open to be used by any other group that might < choose to copyright it. < < (Snip) < How about ‘People Enraged at the Tactics of Assholes’? You can check out the web page of that other group "People Eating Tasty Animals" at http://www.peta.org/ Jim Carlisle
And someone did, creating a PETA group (People Eating Tasty Animals). Supposedly the old peta is trying to force the new peta to relinquish the acronym. Whether true or not, it is humorous, and sums up my attitude towards PETA. It is true and there is a web page dedicated to it’s proliferation. I just can’t remember what it is though!
Try http://www.peta.org Dennis – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gary McMeekin
This may be old info, and I can’t vouch for the truth in it, but I found this to be funny. An article I read recently said that PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) had not copyrighted "PETA" acronym. By not doing so, it was left open to be used by any other group that might choose to copyright it. (Snip) How about ‘People Enraged at the Tactics of Assholes’?
i can’t see the past posts so i may be repeating but there is a home page already using the peta name …people eating tasty animals…try http://www.peta.org or something like that and you will see why peta wishes they had regestered their name… ;) jeff
This may be old info, and I can’t vouch for the truth in it, but I found this to be funny. An article I read recently said that PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) had not copyrighted "PETA" acronym. By not doing so, it was left open to be used by any other group that might choose to copyright it. And someone did, creating a PETA group (People Eating Tasty Animals). Supposedly the old peta is trying to force the new peta to relinquish the acronym. Whether true or not, it is humorous, and sums up my attitude towards PETA.
And someone did, creating a PETA group (People Eating Tasty Animals). Supposedly the old peta is trying to force the new peta to relinquish the acronym. Whether true or not, it is humorous, and sums up my attitude towards PETA.
It is true and there is a web page dedicated to it’s proliferation. I just can’t remember what it is though! Gary McMeekin
This may be old info, and I can’t vouch for the truth in it, but I found this to be funny. An article I read recently said that PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) had not copyrighted "PETA" acronym. By not doing so, it was left open to be used by any other group that might choose to copyright it.
(Snip) How about ‘People Enraged at the Tactics of Assholes’?
Anybody out there know how to catch fish consistently in Chopaka Lake here in Okanogan Co. in Washington State? I,ve lived here all my life and fished Chopaka many, many times, but I sure couldn’t say I catch fish with any regularity. If anyone out there knows how to do it, drop me a line and I’ll spread the good news with my buddies in the Okanogan County Fly Fishing Club.
Lots of luck, Sam. I know if I had a sure-fire method for fooling those Chopaka Lake beauties I wouldn’t hesitate to share it with you and your club. You should be aware, however, that there are other anglers who might not be quite as eager to pass on their secrets knowing you’ll soon be spreading the good news to all your buddies. Alas, there are still some jaded souls within the angling brother- and sisterhood who believe three people can keep a secret only if two of them are dead.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anybody out there know how to catch fish consistently in Chopaka Lake here in Okanogan Co. in Washington State? I,ve lived here all my life and fished Chopaka many, many times, but I sure couldn’t say I catch fish with any regularity. If anyone out there knows how to do it, drop me a line and I’ll spread the good news with my buddies in the Okanogan County Fly Fishing Club. Lots of luck, Sam. I know if I had a sure-fire method for fooling those Chopaka Lake beauties I wouldn’t hesitate to share it with you and your club. You should be aware, however, that there are other anglers who might not be quite as eager to pass on their secrets knowing you’ll soon be spreading the good news to all your buddies. Alas, there are still some jaded souls within the angling brother- and sisterhood who believe three people can keep a secret only if two of them are dead.
The secret is timing. You either catch it on a good day or you don’t.
San Juan Worms. Bill Battles