utter failure

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You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure" just a frustrating day.  Hooking none is "utter failure."  Now that’s happened to me more times than I want to count.   Joel Axelrad **DFD**

ditto.

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Heck, if I hook none but don’t fall in more than twice, I call that a successful day! Piker.  Frank calls it a record!        :) Wolfgang and we ain’t talkin’ pere here.

Yeah, but didn’t he turn pro a year or so ago?  I’m still an amachoor. vince

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Heck, if I hook none but don’t fall in more than twice, I call that a successful day! Piker.  Frank calls it a record!        :) Wolfgang and we ain’t talkin’ pere here. Yeah, but didn’t he turn pro a year or so ago?  I’m still an amachoor.

Yeah, as in music and ornithology, there’s still room in the world of sport for the gifted amateur.     :) Wolfgang

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Yeah, as in music and ornithology, there’s still room in the world of sport for the gifted amateur.     :) Wolfgang

The canary!  He sang, didn’t he?  He’s a lousy snitch.  But he wasn’t really a canary, now was he?  That song, that look, yes, he was a Citril Finch! Thought he had me fooled,  HAH!  Yeh, but I sent him into the mines anyway. BWAAAAHHAAAAHHAAHAHHHAAA!    Thank you very much. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply

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  Well, Sunday looked promising at the outset, at least for fishing the   heavily-fished Tulpehocken…..   Nothing I saw justified the blitz of feeding I saw. Sometimes, fly-fishing   can get like that, it’s just that I hate when it happens to me….Oh well, at   Sometimes two fish is a good day. other times, when you feel you "should" be catching more, it’s just frustrating. Glad to here you stream held up through the low water. I had been concerned about my home stretch of river and was glad when I started seeing some smaller fish feeding about a week or so ago. Yesterday morning, I went out about 8:00 and found a couple of large pods of fish in the skinny water ripping into the Trico duns coming off. Some of the rises were sedate sips but many were splashy lunges. The pod I fished had 10 to 15 fish feeding in water from six inches to a foot deep in an area about 15′ by 20′. I generally try and target a specific fish that I figure is a better one, but they were feeding in such a small area that their rise forms were overlapping. Although some of the rises indicated better fish, I figured the fish were small because of the energetic rises to such a small insect and because the better fish won’t generally surface feeding together in such a small area.  The hatch was pretty heavy and I was competing with lots of naturals. It was also difficult to get a good drift through the eddy where the fish were feeding. It probably took thirty casts before I got a take. The fish was a nice one and tore up the eddy where it was rising and took off downstream to a deep pool. After a spirited fight I landed a Brown of about 18". In the shallow water the fight put down the pod of fish I was targeting as well as the other pod that was downstream. I walked upstream a ways to look for some more fish, but by that time the sun was getting pretty direct and the shallow water looked barren although there were still lots of bugs. I only got one fish, but it was a good day. Glad to know at least some the better fish have made it through our over heated Summer. Willi

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ome small rusty colored mayflies and a You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure"… Hooking none is "utter failure." Heck, if I hook none but don’t fall in more than twice, I call that a successful day!

Piker.  Frank calls it a record!        :) Wolfgang and we ain’t talkin’ pere here.

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ome small rusty colored mayflies and a You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure"… Hooking none is "utter failure."

Heck, if I hook none but don’t fall in more than twice, I call that a successful day! vince

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utter failure my ass – that was just coitus interrruptus Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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utter failure my ass – that was just coitus interrruptus Peter

    you catholics just *will* have your say!     yfitons     wayno  (methodist to the core–which, in methodists, is about 32* fahrenheit.)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – utter failure my ass – that was just coitus interrruptus Peter    you catholics just *will* have your say!    yfitons    wayno  (methodist to the core–which, in methodists, is about 32* fahrenheit.)

Nope, not me, I’m just the anglicized, pseudo version. with a catholic education. :) Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Peter notes: utter failure my ass – that was just coitus interrruptus

you may well be right….at any rate, I went back today as it cleared. Of course, I found less bugs by far and the usual fussy fish. Caught them, though, on deep nymphs (both caddis pupae and Zug Bugs), got two to take #18 Tan Elk Hair caddis.                              Tom

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You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure" just a frustrating day.  Hooking none is "utter failure."  Now that’s happened to me more times than I want to count.  

If you got out of the house and went fishing, you already succeeded. Now, if you had spent the whole weekend at home doing yardwork… Kevin

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Joel writes: Hooking none is "utter failure."  Now that’s happened to me more times than I want to count.

fucking hemlocks!!<g

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tom Littleton wrote… Well, Sunday looked promising at the outset, at least for fishing the heavily-fished Tulpehocken…..it was raining steadily. At 10 am, I drove over to the creek to investigate the situation. Usually, rainy days provide(along with very low fishing pressure), easy fishing for the trout of the Creek. This one promised no different, as my arrival was greeted by dozens of birds working over insects and the swirls of feeding fish everywhere. From that point, it went steadily awry, as I fished for over 3 hours. I hooked exactly two fish, both on a tan wet fly imitation(to my mind) the smaller caddis about. The numbers of feeding fish were staggering, the birds fed constantly, and I never did figure it out. I tried caddis, midges, tricos and little olives. I saw a few of each of those, along with some small rusty colored mayflies and a couple larger pale mayflies. No single insect seemed prevalent enough for the gauche display by the swallows, which literally dive-bombed the water throughout. Nothing I saw justified the blitz of feeding I saw. Sometimes, fly-fishing can get like that, it’s just that I hate when it happens to me….Oh well, at                                                                Tom

You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure" just a frustrating day.  Hooking none is "utter failure."  Now that’s happened to me more times than I want to count.   Joel Axelrad **DFD**

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Well, Sunday looked promising at the outset, at least for fishing the heavily-fished Tulpehocken…..it was raining steadily. At 10 am, I drove over to the creek to investigate the situation. Usually, rainy days provide(along with very low fishing pressure), easy fishing for the trout of the Creek. This one promised no different, as my arrival was greeted by dozens of birds working over insects and the swirls of feeding fish everywhere. From that point, it went steadily awry, as I fished for over 3 hours. I hooked exactly two fish, both on a tan wet fly imitation(to my mind) the smaller caddis about. The numbers of feeding fish were staggering, the birds fed constantly, and I never did figure it out. I tried caddis, midges, tricos and little olives. I saw a few of each of those, along with some small rusty colored mayflies and a couple larger pale mayflies. No single insect seemed prevalent enough for the gauche display by the swallows, which literally dive-bombed the water throughout. Nothing I saw justified the blitz of feeding I saw. Sometimes, fly-fishing can get like that, it’s just that I hate when it happens to me….Oh well, at                                                                 Tom

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heading to Seattle…

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..by coincidence, and when someone posted about the tattoo convention  I decided to spend Friday checkign it out. Anyone have anything to say about the seminars that day   I lucked out and will be staying at a friends house just right up the street….

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..by coincidence, and when someone posted about the tattoo convention  I decided to spend Friday checkign it out. Anyone have anything to say about the seminars that day   I lucked out and will be staying at a friends house just right up the street….

Strange that you post to both of my two favorite newsgroups AND you’re in my neck of the woods. The seminars are listed on the convention’s site, http://www.evolutiontattooconvention.com/indexsem.html No opinion on the seminars for friday, except the history presentation would be educational rather than the last two seminars which are performances for entertainment purposes. fr0glet

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ..by coincidence, and when someone posted about the tattoo convention  I decided to spend Friday checkign it out. Anyone have anything to say about the seminars that day   I lucked out and will be staying at a friends house just right up the street…. Strange that you post to both of my two favorite newsgroups AND you’re in my neck of the woods. The seminars are listed on the convention’s site, http://www.evolutiontattooconvention.com/indexsem.html No opinion on the seminars for friday, except the history presentation would be educational rather than the last two seminars which are performances for entertainment purposes.

Mmm one more thing I found on the convention site, 2 decent drum&bass DJ’s if you’re into electronica at all. Nitsuj and Slantooth are both from the 360bpm crew in Seattle, excellent beats. Don’t know about the rest of the DJ’s they have lined up. Sadly the best DJ from the 360bpm crew won’t be there, Zacharia. Also NO FRICKIN EMCEES!!! fr0glet

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<< Strange that you post to both of my two favorite newsgroups AND you’re in my neck of the woods.   hmmm am I stalking you unconsciously?   what particular set of woods is your neck in? I just caught on – you post in the herp group (snakes not VD).  Tiny world. I had seen your posts in the other group, but since I tend to check each group one after another, I just blurred them…      You don’t post in the alt.binaries.gaynazi-flyfishing group also do you? I am in Portland, driving to Seattle in the morning….

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fr0glet wrote… << Strange that you post to both of my two favorite newsgroups AND you’re in my neck of the woods. hmmm am I stalking you unconsciously?

Sweet!! We need more stalkers around here. Lish hogs them all. what particular set of woods is your neck in?

The Skagit Valley woods, further north. You don’t post in the alt.binaries.gaynazi-flyfishing group also do

you? rec.outdoors.fishing occasionally :) But uh… my ISP doesn’t carry any gaynazi groups :) I am in Portland, driving to Seattle in the morning….

I doubt I’ll be at the convention, else I’d offer to meet. I’ll be in Portland celebrating at a wake for my mother. Cheers! fr0glet

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I’m sorry to hear about your mother… Mine is still recovering from a brain tumor she had removed 6 months ago; knowing how difficult even thinking about losing your mother can be, i can’t imagine how hard that is for you. greg

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f Sweet!! We need more stalkers around here. Lish hogs them all.         i’m quite sure i don’t know what you’re talking about.         besides, MY stalkers GIVE me stuff. & they don’t know where i live. is that the best or what?#!? lish                                                "please don’t talk. 36.9% / 31                                                RANA 125 / 68

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I’m sorry to hear about your mother… Mine is still recovering from a brain tumor she had removed 6 months ago; knowing how difficult even thinking about losing your mother can be, i can’t imagine how hard that is for you. greg

Glad to hear your mother is in recovery, count your blessings every single day. fr0glet

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..by coincidence, and when someone posted about the tattoo convention  I decided to spend Friday checkign it out. Anyone have

anything to say about the seminars that day   I lucked out and will be staying at a friends house just right up the street….

Do tell what you thought of the convention. My roommate went and said it suuuucked… fr0glet

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<< Do tell what you thought of the convention. My roommate went and said it suuuucked.. well…anytime I spend $20 to get into anywhere I make it a point to try and find the positive so that I don’t sit around pissed about not having that $20 back.      It was almost entirely tattooists, a few piercers and a couple of shirt and sticker booths. If you were going for a tattoo it would be a decent place to shop around, take a look at the wide spectrum of tattoo styles and quality. I picked up a few cards for future reference.  I imagine that if you are intimidated with walking into a shop off the street that this would be a good place to go. I saw some great stuff there.      I also saw some things that distressed me. Without getting specific, I saw some equipment handling and bandage work that seemed less than appropriate. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to try and impose a standard on a building full of tattooists, but I suspect by the end of the weekend some of their peers  probably set them straight.      I was hoping that there might be some equipment sales but this show catered primarily to the tattoo consumer. I did get to see a number of other lefties work though…      greg

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Do tell what you thought of the convention. My roommate went and said it suuuucked..

I wasn’t overly impressed. I felt like I paid $20 just to look at different people’s portfolios. It was also very hot, crowded and parking was a nightmare with the tall ships show just down the street. Some of the music was ok, but you couldn’t escape it. It was very difficult to have a conversation in a normal tone of voice anywhere in the place.

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Look up some of these guys: http://runarena.com/cgi-bin/ra?id=friedturd hella kewl ppl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ..by coincidence, and when someone posted about the tattoo convention  I decided to spend Friday checkign it out. Anyone have anything to say about the seminars that day   I lucked out and will be staying at a friends house just right up the street….

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AMCTR (Maine Clave)

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<Good report snipped What, no whitefish to report about Jeff? Darin

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Jeff C writes:

(snip for brev) – Jeff Miller’s week: up at 5:30 to fish before breakfast.  Sometimes pack a lunch to fish straight through.  At dinner, eat everything he ordered plus half of Dene’s order,

You mean to tell me that scurrilous lawyer from the great North State was also eating Dene’s food?  Helll, when he sat opposite me I had to build a defensive wall consisting of wine bottles, water glasses, etc. to keep my food from ending up in his plate.  Somewhere there is a picture of Jeffy, ala the picture of Dorian Gray, growing fatter and fatter and fatter, while our beloved yet scurrilous friend remains lean and mean. As far as Benee goes —- well, if I didn’t have to take a leak so badly, we’d *still* be in the 2nd current catching big brookies and salmon.  I enjoyed meeting her, Jeff, and hope the both of you can come back. Dave LaCourse, Bottom Dweller

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Helll, when [Jeffy] sat opposite me I had to build a defensive wall consisting of wine bottles, water glasses, etc. to keep my food from ending up in his plate.

That’s good :-) …hope the both of you can come back.

Yes, that would be good. Regards, Jeff

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What, no whitefish to report about Jeff?

I forgot!  No whitefish!  One nice thing about the fishing there is that when you hook something it’s either a salmon or brook trout (although there were rumours of some browns being in the water, which was made more confusing because apparently some salmon had red spots.)  And you know immediately which one it is by the direction the fish streaks – north or south :-) Regards, Jeff

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Jeff C writes: What, no whitefish to report about Jeff? I forgot!  No whitefish!  One nice thing about the fishing there is that when you hook something it’s either a salmon or brook trout (although there were rumours of some browns being in the water, which was made more confusing because apparently some salmon had red spots.)  And you know immediately which one it is by the direction the fish streaks – north or south :-) Regards, Jeff

There are both chubs (large shiner-like fish) and suckers in the Rapid.  The chubs will hit a streamer and the suckers regularly take a nymph.  In fact, on Monday I took a slucker out of 1st current.  Peter was at the tail of the current and couldn’t see it — he thought it was a big brookie.  There are also yellow perch and supposedly small mouth bass.  I’ve caught a yellow perch, but never a bass. Dave LaCourse

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There are also yellow perch and supposedly small mouth bass.

I remember now I saw a sign on the riverside that said smallmouth had been illegally "stocked" in the river.  It encouraged fishermen to keep any smallmouth that were caught, since they are "very aggressive" (in taking over trout habitat.)  I have to admit I would have been shocked to catch a perch :-) Regards, Jeff

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- Benee and I really enjoyed our trip to Lakewood.  Ever since I dropped in on this group and mentioned to Benee the sort of names I’ve been called, she really had no interest in reading or posting.  She’s not a big internet surfer in any case.  But slowly I was able to convince her she’d enjoy a clave like the one in Maine.  I think one of the things that intrigued her was some of the handles of ROFF posters: Indian Joe, Pamlico Jim, Daytripper, Fishworship, Flyfish, Big Dale, Bruiser, Wayno, and now I guess Zimbo??, etc.  She says she will invent her own handle and post a trip report herself, and she also has pics to contribute. – First I’d like to say that one of my primary goals was to see Benee catch her first trout on a fly.  Now, as many of you know, teaching fly fishing to your significant other ranks right up there with showing them how to golf. According to Peter Charles, it is second to hanging wallpaper together.  So I’m very thankful to Dave LaCourse who not only provided a pleasant guiding experience to Benee, but actually helped her catch her first fish.  There was one tag team effort between Dave and Benee on a brookie of about 17", and after that Benee caught a salmon on her own that appeared somewhere around 14-16". Mission accomplished!! – My dream fish for the trip was an 18" native brook trout.  I never caught that fish, but I was pleasantly surprised by the salmon, which went ballistic when hooked, as Zimbo said. – I cannot claim the biggest fish, the most fish, the largest fish on a little hook, or any other meaningful accomplishment, but I do claim the toughest river crossing – *below* lower dam.  I made it, but not recommended. – I wasn’t able to stay long enough for the raffle, but look forward to whatever I might have gotten.  Also sorry I missed the bonfire.  On the way out Wednesday morning, I ran into Dave Tatosian, Paul Goodwin, and Dave (Bottom ? flyfish).  Glad I was able to at least say hi to Dave again but sorry we again didn’t get a chance to fish. – Dave LaCourse drives an Audi.  When Dave asked Benee what she did, Benee said she was an audiologist.  Dave asked Benee if she could look at his car. – One thing that’s fun about fishing with a newbie is a fresh look at some of the lingo we take for granted.  When you or I might say "Had a few splashy refusals", Benee would say "I think I had a nibble.  Didn’t pan out though." – From the sound of things, the better fishing seems to have been in the second half of the week.  Oh well!  That’s the kind of thing that keeps you coming back. – The accomodations were exactly my style.  On Sunday I only had half a day to fish, so I took a lunch with me to the river.  There wasn’t anything unique or special in the lunch bag, yet the lunch out on the river, under absolutely beautiful skies and perfect temperature, *was* special and it tasted damn good.  Hard to say why, but you know what I mean. – Jeff Miller’s week: up at 5:30 to fish before breakfast.  Sometimes pack a lunch to fish straight through.  At dinner, eat everything he ordered plus half of Dene’s order, and start drinking wine.  After dinner, sit in a rocking chair and start drinking heavier stuff.  At some point while listening to the "party", drift off to sleep.  Repeat. – It turns out Indian Joe and Dene stayed at the same bed and breakfast that Benee and I did in Portland Thursday night.  The contrast between the brochure and the actual accomodations was a joke!  Luckily we had good company to share the laugh with. – Well, Dave did a great job with the organization, thank you. Regards, Jeff

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Fly Fishing Life Vests

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_____  There is someone that makes those things but I can’t remember the Company’s name.  Anyone have a clue? — MrG/American Sportsman http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html http://www.gink.com/rod_facts/bastardjun00.html  LATEST BAMBOO FACTS "the saga continues"

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_____  There is someone that makes those things but I can’t remember the Company’s name.  Anyone have a clue?

We certainly know who doesn’t….

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_____  There is someone that makes those things but I can’t remember the Company’s name.  Anyone have a clue? —

Orvis. Dave LaCourse

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_____  There is someone that makes those things but I can’t remember the Company’s name.  Anyone have a clue? — Orvis. Dave LaCourse

_____ Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh! — MrG/American Sportsman http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html http://www.gink.com/rod_facts/bastardjun00.html  LATEST BAMBOO FACTS "the saga continues"

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_____  There is someone that makes those things but I can’t remember the Company’s name.  Anyone have a clue?

Check out Stormy Seas at http://www.stormyseas.com/vests.html These folks make awesome products.  Read the history of this company– the founder went overboard into the Bering Sea in November.  He survived (a small miracle) and founded this company so that more could also survive similar situations.  LOTS of North Pacific commercial fishermen wear Stormy Seas jackets. The vests and jackets have a bladder inside that is inflated by pulling on a chest patch that is attached to a CO2 cartridge.  The benefit is a vest or jacket that is not bulky but has a built in life vest.  There is also a fill tube that can be used to inflate the vest by mouth. BTW, these make for a great joke at the bar…  I’ve seen ‘green’ fishermen have their cord yanked and their jacket explode into a life vest.  The response never fails to amuse. Tom no longer working at sea Before you buy.

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NY: Chittenango Creek?

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Having spent a couple enjoyable afternoons casting around on Chittenango Creek, I’m wondering if there are stretches that make more sense for fly fishing than others.  I’ve been drifting nymphs in the fast water within a mile below the falls, mostly because the lower stretches have numerous posted signs. Are there any public areas I’m missing above or below the village?  How about above the falls?  Thanks in advance. DS

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DS, I didn’t know Chittenango Creek was open this time of year.  Well anyway, there is a public fishing area above the falls a little ways that I’ve never had much luck at but it might be worth a try.  I’ve never had any problem with posted land along the stream, the only area that’s posted that I know of that prevents access is near the concrete blocks with the cable strung between them. If you drive downstream from the falls on the highway the first left hand turn on a gravel rd ( I can’t remember the name) will allow pretty easy access.  Downstream from the gravel road there are plenty of nice pools and riffles that hold some decent fish but can be a little hard to maneuver around when summer rolls around and the area gets more overgrown. I’ve never fished much in the village but have seen many others.  Check out the Yankee Fly shop in the village the owner would probably know more than I. I have to say that Chittenango creek is one of my favorite streams the entire area below the falls has plenty of fish. Hope this helps. Wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Having spent a couple enjoyable afternoons casting around on Chittenango Creek, I’m wondering if there are stretches that make more sense for fly fishing than others.  I’ve been drifting nymphs in the fast water within a mile below the falls, mostly because the lower stretches have numerous posted signs. Are there any public areas I’m missing above or below the village?  How about above the falls?  Thanks in advance. DS

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Flyfishing Lessons in South Africa

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Ahem New site here in good ol’ SA www.troutfishing.co.za Cheers Ari

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Ahem New site here in good ol’ SA www.troutfishing.co.za

Rugby, braaivleis, sunny skies and Chevrolet…. ;-) Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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South West NC Advice

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actually walt…i think marie changed pj…or was it vice versa?   also, wasn’t it soon after james macdonald roberts left your presence that you wrote that blazing binary rant and began tying wooly buggers on treble hooks??? jeff (in recovery at the "pamlico" wing of the Hebron Colony) …the power of the prince of pilsner has commanded the scene. pj,

pj, has been changed.  just a simple tasting of dahlwhinnie evolution and the logic of the wee one…sad, to see an icon in tears. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – waldo, the prince of pilsner

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Any advice? Thanks, Jeff (aka – empty handed) Jeff, Go smaller with 20-26 midges if you’re fishing the dry.

        (altruistic dispensation of wisdom from the king of the kamloomps snipped) –Walt

        if i were you, old buddy, i would be forgetting about idyllic days on the stream, and start thinking about survival.  ’cause i can hear, off to the east, in a growing, ominous, rumble, the thunderous stride of (gulp!) ….pamlico jim hissownself!!!!!         say goodbye to marie, and shake hands with the devil. wayno, who knows whereof he speaketh

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any advice? Thanks, Jeff (aka – empty handed) Jeff, Go smaller with 20-26 midges if you’re fishing the dry.         (altruistic dispensation of wisdom from the king of the kamloomps snipped) –Walt         if i were you, old buddy, i would be forgetting about idyllic days on the stream, and start thinking about survival.  ’cause i can hear, off to the east, in a growing, ominous, rumble, the thunderous stride of (gulp!) ….pamlico jim hissownself!!!!!         say goodbye to marie, and shake hands with the devil. wayno, who knows whereof he speaketh

wayno…the power of the prince of pilsner has commanded the scene. pj, jm, and yours trully returned from a remarkable winter day astream… pj, has been changed.  just a simple tasting of dahlwhinnie evolution and the logic of the wee one…sad, to see an icon in tears. waldo, the prince of pilsner

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It’s my first winter in the area and I’m having a really tough time getting anything to hit. Have fished the Davidson, South Mills, Jones Gap (Saluda River), multiple locations of the Green River, with every #12-18 fly that I have been able to tie or find. No luck, not even a strike… I’ve tried am and pm.  All of the same locations produced through the summer/late fall of this year. Any advice? Thanks, Jeff (aka – empty handed)

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It’s my first winter in the area and I’m having a really tough time getting anything to hit. Have fished the Davidson, South Mills, Jones Gap (Saluda River), multiple locations of the Green River, with every #12-18 fly that I have been able to tie or find. No luck, not even a strike… I’ve tried am and pm.  All of the same locations produced through the summer/late fall of this year. Any advice? Thanks, Jeff (aka – empty handed)

Jeff, Go smaller with 20-26 midges if you’re fishing the dry. A rig that I use is to tie the midge about 18-30 inches behind a 16 or so para adams which helps me keep track of where the midge is. You’ll be surprised how many take the "indicator." However, you will have far more success nymphing in the winter months. This afternoon I actually caught two or three fish on the stimulator indicator which had a 18 bead head dropper. The bead head was deadly today with many fish caught and many fish missed, all-in-all, a fine day astream in the winter. –Walt — Ezflyfish.com:  http://www.ezflyfish.com For Book & Print Auctions: http://www.amazon.com/seller/mariebooks Blue Ridge Book Gallery: http://www.bibliofind.com/cgi-bin/texis.exe/s/search/dhome.html?id=33… P.O. Box 5112, Banner Elk, NC 28604

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trip report :brookie madness

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Matt, This isn’t a "trip report" – this is a "day in the life report" and I hate you for it! ;) Stop posting cruel things like this. -Greg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I moved into a new house last month that has a trout stream running thruogh the backyard. Seeing as how work is slow (like I just said there’s a trout stream in the backyard) and my truck’s broken down (really too bad), I’ve had lots of time to get familiar with my new home waters. Today proved to be one of the finest days yet. I’ve been working on fishing the entire thing and today I managed to fish one of the branches all the way to its source. The crest of the blue ridge mtns. (that’s the only clue you’ll get).Today, I found brookie heaven. The weather was perfect, the water is finally back to normal and the fish wouldn’t leave my fly alone. I watched more than one fish strike at the fly three times before gitting a hold on it. One after another we hauled em. I was using a big fly (sz. 12 wooly bugger) so the little guys were having a hard time getting a grip on it. This was fine though, the fun is in the strike. I managed to land about 5 or 6 before pangs of hunger drove me home. I’ve gotta start remembering to bring along a snack.Tomorrow I’m fishing a different branch too see if it might be a "second heaven". I’ll keep you posted…P.S. Sorry to hear you didn’t catch any fish walt. Better luck next time ;)

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believer in stocked trout breakfasts with eggs over easy, sourdough toast, French Market Coffee, and buttermilk pancakes, WITH maple syrup.

Yikes! I guess that explains your "Frequent Cardiac Surgery Card", George! ;^) /daytripper

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believer in stocked trout breakfasts with eggs over easy, sourdough toast, French Market Coffee, and buttermilk pancakes, WITH maple syrup.

George, I thought you told me you were diebetic.  (?) All those carbs AND sugar! Dave

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I moved into a new house last month that has a trout stream running thruogh the backyard. Seeing as how work is slow (like I just said there’s a trout stream in the backyard) and my truck’s broken down (really too bad), I’ve had lots of time to get familiar with my new home waters. Today proved to be one of the finest days yet. I’ve been working on fishing the entire thing and today I managed to fish one of the branches all the way to its source. The crest of the blue ridge mtns. (that’s the only clue you’ll get). Today, I found brookie heaven. The weather was perfect, the water is finally back to normal and the fish wouldn’t leave my fly alone. I watched more than one fish strike at the fly three times before gitting a hold on it. One after another we hauled em. I was using a big fly (sz. 12 wooly bugger) so the little guys were having a hard time getting a grip on it. This was fine though, the fun is in the strike. I managed to land about 5 or 6 before pangs of hunger drove me home. I’ve gotta start remembering to bring along a snack. Tomorrow I’m fishing a different branch too see if it might be a "second heaven". I’ll keep you posted… P.S. Sorry to hear you didn’t catch any fish walt. Better luck next time ;)

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Wonderful little stream near Boone.  Fish it often and enjoy the Brookies as well as some of the local company.  Glad you like it too.  See you there! Wayne To fish is human…to release divine.     I moved into a new house last month that has a trout stream running thruogh the backyard. Seeing as how work is slow (like I just said there’s a trout stream in the backyard) and my truck’s broken down (really too bad), I’ve had lots of time to get familiar with my new home waters. Today proved to be one of the finest days yet. I’ve been working on fishing the entire thing and today I managed to fish one of the branches all the way to its source. The crest of the blue ridge mtns. (that’s the only clue you’ll get).     Today, I found brookie heaven. The weather was perfect, the water is finally back to normal and the fish wouldn’t leave my fly alone. I watched more than one fish strike at the fly three times before gitting a hold on it. One after another we hauled em. I was using a big fly (sz. 12 wooly bugger) so the little guys were having a hard time getting a grip on it. This was fine though, the fun is in the strike. I managed to land about 5 or 6 before pangs of hunger drove me home. I’ve gotta start remembering to bring along a snack.     Tomorrow I’m fishing a different branch too see if it might be a "second heaven". I’ll keep you posted…     P.S. Sorry to hear you didn’t catch any fish walt. Better luck next time ;)

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P.S. Sorry to hear you didn’t catch any fish walt. Better luck next time ;)

your condolences are most welcome, guess they couldn’t see my size 20 dry in all that big moving water. that’s ok….. i probably should have tied on an "ollie" like you did. for gods sake, it’s january, too early for dries. waldo

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Walt, you might want to go smaller next time. The sulphurs won’t be hatching for months;) Try a 28 midge, they were nailing them last week. You were fishing the stocked section, right? <grin I heard those fish were easy to    -**** Posted from remarQ, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- http://www.remarq.com/ – Host to the the World’s Discussions & Usenet

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Walt, you might want to go smaller next time. The sulphurs won’t be hatching for months;) Try a 28 midge, they were nailing them last week. You were fishing the stocked section, right? <grin I heard those fish were easy to    -**** Posted from remarQ, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- http://www.remarq.com/ – Host to the the World’s Discussions & Usenet

believer in stocked trout breakfasts with eggs over easy, sourdough toast, French Market Coffee, and buttermilk pancakes, WITH maple syrup.

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Matt, That post just shows what a low down bum you really are!  Here’s the rest of the world, slaving away at the daily grind and YOU are fishing – in the backyard no less!!! Have you NO shame?! Tom — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC "If you’re not the lead dog, the view never changes."

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packer lake in sierras

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Has anyone ever been up to Packer Lake in the Sierras? It was mentioned along with Upper and Lower Sardine Lakes.  I’ve been to those.  Stocked regularly… boats with electric motors… cabins next door.  Is Packer the one over the ridge and down in the valley? I think probably a couple mile hike.  How does it fish? jeff — Center for Computational Sciences and Engineering  PHONE: (510)486-5348 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory              FAX: (510)486-6900

I would fly fish the Gold lakes basin in June or Oct. In August the fish are usually pretty deep. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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Fished Packer Lake several years ago. Tough lake to fish unless youi know it well. Stay with lower Sardine in the evenings. Stocked with lots of nice trout and a beautiful lake.

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Has anyone ever been up to Packer Lake in the Sierras? It was mentioned along with Upper and Lower Sardine Lakes.  I’ve been to those.  Stocked regularly… boats with electric motors… cabins next door.  Is Packer the one over the ridge and down in the valley? I think probably a couple mile hike.  How does it fish? jeff — Center for Computational Sciences and Engineering  PHONE: (510)486-5348 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory              FAX: (510)486-6900

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Sorry I’m brain-dead this a.m.  These lake where mentioned in "FishFirst"’s report… Sorry for the confusion.  It’s Friday and I’ve only had one cup of coffee (so far) today. jeff — Center for Computational Sciences and Engineering  PHONE: (510)486-5348 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory              FAX: (510)486-6900

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Flyfishing in Kauai, Hawaii

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Any info on possibilities of small lake or stream fishing here. I have heard there’s some bass possibilities here.

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There are lots of ponds with LM and Peacock bass in them.  I’ve personally only caught them on a spinning rod, but there’s no reason they wouldn’t take flies.  There may be some bass or other interesting creatures in the larger streams.  There sure are a lot of them on Kauai, and there are some nice flats areas that ought to be fishable for Ulua (Trevally) and their younger brothers, Papio.–Crashjibe

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Only stream fishing when i was there ran through Kokee State Park.  Purely "put & take" trout.  Definite for Peacock.  Don’t expect to find ANY gear there, though.

I fished some of the freshwater reservoirs in cane fields (get a permit…they’re free from the sugar co.). Largemouth and peacock a’plenty *:) I thought I remember reading where Kokee has a very short fishing season….did I remember right?

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