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news:af4vqd$b5noo$10@ID-95032.news.dfncis.de… > <snicker snort> So basically…MS was the gulf war syndrome of WW > II, where passenger pigeons were frequently used.. > — > Laura
LOL 8^) Rob
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news:af53n602v6@drn.newsguy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <wFiR8.22952$uH2.2…@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Stef > says… > >"Michael" <muirh…@island.net> wrote in message > >news:af45gj018ce@drn.newsguy.com… > >> In article <iagR8.22066$uH2….@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Stef > >says… > >> That would make the Queen Charlotte > >> Islands among the greatest MS hotspots on the planet… which I can assure > >you > >> they are not now, nor have they ever been. > >Why would it make Queen Charlotte a hot spot? Whats the weather like? What > >state is it in even? > You’ve shown your ignorance of so many things in the post to which I’m replying > that I have to just pick one and stick to it… so I’ll pick the one I like to > talk about. > I’ve got news for you, Rob. Not every place on Earth is in a US State.
I know you arent American. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The Queen Charlottte Islands are a Canadian island archipelago in the North > Pacific, centred at 53
Yes, that’s the one. The part I’m trying to remember is the way he attached the turning wheel to the small gear that sticks out of the motor. My motor has a gear that’s only about 1/4 inch in diameter, so there isn’t much to work with. Maybe I need to epoxy this to a larger item like the pulley Sandy suggested. Thanks Chas What did the turner look like? Was it the one with the motor mounted on a bookend or are you referring to something else? Walter
Fix underscore in address to reply If you are referring to the turner on the bookend then its the one I made. I didnt post the pictures to ABPF but put them on my website. I have since taken those down but can send the pictures to you if you like. What I used to attach the foam wheel to the motor was a short piece of tubing. I epoxyed the tubing to the foam and just slip it on the the motor shaft. My motor shaft was smooth however, and it was 1/4" O.D. It didnt have a gear on the end. So I am not sure if the tubing will stay put your motor shaft. On this one it works great however. I didnt want to glue the tubing to the motor because it gives me the ability to change the wheel if I want. I hope this help. Good luck. Walter
It’s one inch PVC. He (Haag) was telling me he had it in a FF magazine article. Maybe some one in this NG has seen it. Sure worked slick. Lou
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m having a hard time visualizing this one. My motor is a small motor with a small gear sticking out one end. All that PVC stuff would be too heavy for the bearings in this motor. Thanks Chas There’s a tier with the last name of Haag. He mounts the closed end of a PVC end cap to the motor shaft-Drill a hole in the center and two nuts with washers to tighten. Then a 2" piece of the PVC pipe. An end cap with a hole in it over the PVC pipe. Another end cap butting against the last end cap. A long bolt through the two end caps with a spring and thumb nut to adjust slipage. A long piece of PVC pipe stuck into the last end cap A styrofoam disc from the craft shop on the end of the pipe. A support as needed. Don’t glue the pipes together. You can hold the drying disc and the slip[ joiunt allows the motor to turn. He had a Bar-B-Que motor on the rig I saw. Lou Fix underscore in address to reply
Did a quick search. The tyer’s name is John Haag. His number is (631) 286-2148. He ties at the North eastern shows. I saw him at College Park, MD, Somerset, NJ, and ashton, PA.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m having a hard time visualizing this one. My motor is a small motor with a small gear sticking out one end. All that PVC stuff would be too heavy for the bearings in this motor. Thanks Chas There’s a tier with the last name of Haag. He mounts the closed end of a PVC end cap to the motor shaft-Drill a hole in the center and two nuts with washers to tighten. Then a 2" piece of the PVC pipe. An end cap with a hole in it over the PVC pipe. Another end cap butting against the last end cap. A long bolt through the two end caps with a spring and thumb nut to adjust slipage. A long piece of PVC pipe stuck into the last end cap A styrofoam disc from the craft shop on the end of the pipe. A support as needed. Don’t glue the pipes together. You can hold the drying disc and the slip[ joiunt allows the motor to turn. He had a Bar-B-Que motor on the rig I saw. Lou Fix underscore in address to reply
Yes, yours was the one I was looking for. Looking at Snady’s pictures, I think I’ll try that direction for the attachment. My shaft is just too small and short for the tubing to get enough purchase.
perhaps this will help? http://192.41.19.35/austin/swedish.wav Mu 
I guess I left myself open for that one. Thanks Mu, Chas Yes, yours was the one I was looking for. Looking at Snady’s pictures, I think I’ll try that direction for the attachment. My shaft is just too small and short for the tubing to get enough purchase. perhaps this will help? http://192.41.19.35/austin/swedish.wav Mu
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I guess I left myself open for that one. Chas
Nothing personal. I was just trying to beat Wolfgang and Charlie to the punch Mu
No luck here either. A hint in the form of the post numbers with photo attachments would be great. ….Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you go to the following group you’ll find 3 pictures of a fly curing wheel with a nice simple clutch. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flytyersbench/ Anyone else find that this yahoo site does not work for them? I cannot access any photos. Mu Hi Mu, Same here. And I get a pop up advertising for a video camera of sorts. sPect it was a troll. DaveMohnsen Denver
Folks, I have just posted 3 pics of a fly turner at alt.binaries.pictures.fishing. Tarpon10
No luck here either. A hint in the form of the post numbers with photo attachments would be great. ….Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you go to the following group you’ll find 3 pictures of a fly curing wheel with a nice simple clutch. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flytyersbench/ Anyone else find that this yahoo site does not work for them? I cannot access any photos. Mu Hi Mu, Same here. And I get a pop up advertising for a video camera of sorts. sPect it was a troll. DaveMohnsen Denver
I put some (home made turner) images at: http://montana-riverboats.com/pages/pages.php?page_title=Glue_Turner
That’s why I couldn’t find it. Yes, yours was the one I was looking for. Looking at Snady’s pictures, I think I’ll try that direction for the attachment. My shaft is just too small and short for the tubing to get enough purchase. Thanks for your help. Chas – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you are referring to the turner on the bookend then its the one I made. I didnt post the pictures to ABPF but put them on my website. I have since taken those down but can send the pictures to you if you like. What I used to attach the foam wheel to the motor was a short piece of tubing. I epoxyed the tubing to the foam and just slip it on the the motor shaft. My motor shaft was smooth however, and it was 1/4" O.D. It didnt have a gear on the end. So I am not sure if the tubing will stay put your motor shaft. On this one it works great however. I didnt want to glue the tubing to the motor because it gives me the ability to change the wheel if I want. I hope this help. Good luck. Walter
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A while back someone posted some nice pictures on abpf of a home made turner. I’ve got the parts now, and I’m trrying to find those pictures. I have my own archive that must include it, but I just can’t find it. The key idea I’m looking for is the connection between the motor’s shaft and the turning wheel. Was it RW who designed it? Thanks Chas Fix underscore in address to reply What did the turner look like? Was it the one with the motor mounted on a bookend or are you referring to something else? Walter
Was it RW who designed it?
I think it was. He was answering questions on it this evening. You will have to wait until he wakes up. (or does he ever wake up?) George
Hi, If you go to the following group you’ll find 3 pictures of a fly curing wheel with a nice simple clutch. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flytyersbench/ Regards
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A while back someone posted some nice pictures on abpf of a home made turner. I’ve got the parts now, and I’m trrying to find those pictures. I have my own archive that must include it, but I just can’t find it. The key idea I’m looking for is the connection between the motor’s shaft and the turning wheel. Was it RW who designed it? Thanks Chas Fix underscore in address to reply
…Then fire that baby up and let ‘er rip…
…at 3 rpm. — TBone The Halfordian Golfer
A while back someone posted some nice pictures on abpf of a home made turner. I’ve got the parts now, and I’m trrying to find those pictures. I have my own archive that must include it, but I just can’t find it. The key idea I’m looking for is the connection between the motor’s shaft and the turning wheel. Was it RW who designed it?
I don’t have photos of my turner. I’ll make some this evening. I went to the local electrical supply store (where electricians buy their boxes and fixtures) and bought a low-rpm (6 rpm I believe) gear motor, for $25. I mounted that onto an angle bracket with nuts and bolts. I drilled three 1/8" holes into the rim of a 3" pulley. I put the pulley onto the shaft of the gear motor. I cut the bottom off a 5 gallon drywall bucket, leaving a 4" rim. I drilled 3 holes in the bottom of the bucket that matched the holes in the metal pulley (that’s attached to the shaft of the motor). I glued 1/2" foam onto the outside of the 4" bucket rim. Works like a champ.
If you go to the following group you’ll find 3 pictures of a fly curing wheel with a nice simple clutch. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flytyersbench/
Anyone else find that this yahoo site does not work for them? I cannot access any photos. Mu
If you go to the following group you’ll find 3 pictures of a fly curing wheel with a nice simple clutch. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flytyersbench/ Anyone else find that this yahoo site does not work for them? I cannot access any photos. Mu
Hi Mu, Same here. And I get a pop up advertising for a video camera of sorts. sPect it was a troll. DaveMohnsen Denver
There’s a tier with the last name of Haag. He mounts the closed end of a PVC end cap to the motor shaft-Drill a hole in the center and two nuts with washers to tighten. Then a 2" piece of the PVC pipe. An end cap with a hole in it over the PVC pipe. Another end cap butting against the last end cap. A long bolt through the two end caps with a spring and thumb nut to adjust slipage. A long piece of PVC pipe stuck into the last end cap A styrofoam disc from the craft shop on the end of the pipe. A support as needed. Don’t glue the pipes together. You can hold the drying disc and the slip[ joiunt allows the motor to turn. He had a Bar-B-Que motor on the rig I saw. Lou
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A while back someone posted some nice pictures on abpf of a home made turner. I’ve got the parts now, and I’m trrying to find those pictures. I have my own archive that must include it, but I just can’t find it. The key idea I’m looking for is the connection between the motor’s shaft and the turning wheel. Was it RW who designed it? Thanks Chas Fix underscore in address to reply
Yes, that’s the one. The part I’m trying to remember is the way he attached the turning wheel to the small gear that sticks out of the motor. My motor has a gear that’s only about 1/4 inch in diameter, so there isn’t much to work with. Maybe I need to epoxy this to a larger item like the pulley Sandy suggested. Thanks Chas What did the turner look like? Was it the one with the motor mounted on a bookend or are you referring to something else? Walter
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I’m having a hard time visualizing this one. My motor is a small motor with a small gear sticking out one end. All that PVC stuff would be too heavy for the bearings in this motor. Thanks Chas – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There’s a tier with the last name of Haag. He mounts the closed end of a PVC end cap to the motor shaft-Drill a hole in the center and two nuts with washers to tighten. Then a 2" piece of the PVC pipe. An end cap with a hole in it over the PVC pipe. Another end cap butting against the last end cap. A long bolt through the two end caps with a spring and thumb nut to adjust slipage. A long piece of PVC pipe stuck into the last end cap A styrofoam disc from the craft shop on the end of the pipe. A support as needed. Don’t glue the pipes together. You can hold the drying disc and the slip[ joiunt allows the motor to turn. He had a Bar-B-Que motor on the rig I saw. Lou
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Can you provide a picture of your motor? George
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m having a hard time visualizing this one. My motor is a small motor with a small gear sticking out one end. All that PVC stuff would be too heavy for the bearings in this motor. Thanks Chas There’s a tier with the last name of Haag. He mounts the closed end of a PVC end cap to the motor shaft-Drill a hole in the center and two nuts with washers to tighten. Then a 2" piece of the PVC pipe. An end cap with a hole in it over the PVC pipe. Another end cap butting against the last end cap. A long bolt through the two end caps with a spring and thumb nut to adjust slipage. A long piece of PVC pipe stuck into the last end cap A styrofoam disc from the craft shop on the end of the pipe. A support as needed. Don’t glue the pipes together. You can hold the drying disc and the slip[ joiunt allows the motor to turn. He had a Bar-B-Que motor on the rig I saw. Lou Fix underscore in address to reply
A while back someone posted some nice pictures on abpf of a home made turner. I’ve got the parts now, and I’m trrying to find those pictures. I have my own archive that must include it, but I just can’t find it. The key idea I’m looking for is the connection between the motor’s shaft and the turning wheel. Was it RW who designed it? Thanks Chas Fix underscore in address to reply
The key idea I’m looking for is the connection between the motor’s shaft and the turning wheel. Was it RW who designed it?
Not me. I’m a theoretician. P.S. Try pulleys ans O-rings. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
R.W.? If you can send me a picture of your motor or post it on binaries, I may be able to explain how we do it. I use a lot of these motors and maybe yours is the type that has a neat solution. George
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R.W.? If you can send me a picture of your motor or post it on binaries, I may be able to explain how we do it. I use a lot of these motors and maybe yours is the type that has a neat solution.
It’s all in the pulleys and the O-rings. Get the type of pulleys that lock down on the shaft with a screw, fitted as closely as possible to the shaft, and make the O-rings yourself, to size, with a little tension. Then fire that baby up and let ‘er rip. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
Can anyone tell me about fishing oportunities on Whidbey Island in Washington state? My daughter is moving up there in September, and when I visit I’d like to do some fly fishing. I realize there are not any steams on the Island, but how about Sea run Cutts??
There is a group www.waflyfishers.com Get on the mailing list and they send fishing reports and you can ask questions etc. I am just guessing but I would say about 80% of the salmon that go into Puget Sound go past Whidby Island and the Salmon fishing is just heating up. September and October are good months also. HTH Dave —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me about fishing oportunities on Whidbey Island in Washington state? My daughter is moving up there in September, and when I visit I’d like to do some fly fishing. I realize there are not any steams on the Island, but how about Sea run Cutts??
Can anyone tell me about fishing oportunities on Whidbey Island in Washington state? My daughter is moving up there in September, and when I visit I’d like to do some fly fishing. I realize there are not any steams on the Island, but how about Sea run Cutts??
Sea-run cutts and steelhead usually can be found along the southern and eastern shore of the island. If you are going to be a fairly frequent visitor, you should consider getting a float tube and leaving it there. Pass Lake, just east of Deception Pass (up at the north end of the island) has excellent fishing, mainly by float tube or non-motorized boat. At certain times of year (mostly the Fall), it also would be well worth the drive to the Stilliguamish River (plenty of cutts in the Fall). The Stilly is between Everett and Mt. Vernon on the mainland. You can get there either by driving north across the Deception Pass bridge, and then into Mt. Vernon and south to the river or you can drive to the south end of the island (to Clinton), take the ferry, then drive north to the river (the former route takes less time).
The best place I found for Sea-Runs on the north end of the Island was by the old ice house on the NAS Whidbey Sea Plane base (Which is an open base so access is not a problem). Fish flashy flies on a falling tide on the gravel banks which can easily be done from shore. Pass lake is good and the best fishing is usually Damsels and Chironomids, although it’s tough to go wrong with the bugger family. On Anacortes as well is Whistle Lake up under Mt Erie. It’s an uphill walk in of about a mile but very remote feeling and a mixed fishery of warm and cold water species. Don’t leave anything in your car that you expect to be there when you get back. fair warning from experience. Not a whole lot on the south end of the isalnd that I was aware of but since I lived in Anacortes it wasn’t really worth the trip. If you head up Highway 20 towards Concrete there are numerous small streams but please treat the fish with care as many you catch will not be trout but immature Steelies. I do recommend the milkshakes at the place with the fiberglass cow out in front of it, particularly the Boysenberry. I of course, am deeply envious I would love to be back out there. Cheers, Allen Epps Catonsville MD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me about fishing oportunities on Whidbey Island in Washington state? My daughter is moving up there in September, and when I visit I’d like to do some fly fishing. I realize there are not any steams on the Island, but how about Sea run Cutts?? Sea-run cutts and steelhead usually can be found along the southern and eastern shore of the island. If you are going to be a fairly frequent visitor, you should consider getting a float tube and leaving it there. Pass Lake, just east of Deception Pass (up at the north end of the island) has excellent fishing, mainly by float tube or non-motorized boat. At certain times of year (mostly the Fall), it also would be well worth the drive to the Stilliguamish River (plenty of cutts in the Fall). The Stilly is between Everett and Mt. Vernon on the mainland. You can get there either by driving north across the Deception Pass bridge, and then into Mt. Vernon and south to the river or you can drive to the south end of the island (to Clinton), take the ferry, then drive north to the river (the former route takes less time).
BTW, why not include the arbor knot? You have to attach the backing to the spool somehow. Yeah, but the guys at Orvis do that one.
They probably tie your needle knots, too. How many other people in ROFF have been streamside with a supposedly experienced flyfisherman who, when it came time to tie on a leader, had no idea how to do it? The clinch knot and nail knot both can be replaced by the Uni knot if you like.
But EVERY knot can be replaced by the clinch knot. Just ask Wayno if he ever reappears. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
How many other people in ROFF have been streamside with a supposedly experienced flyfisherman who, when it came time to tie on a leader, had no idea how to do it?
This has happened to me numerous times. Also, many people apparently change their ( looped ),leaders at an amazing rate, because they are unable to even tie tippet on. If you have enough time and money I don
If you fish lakes for trout and other species, this is for you. Whether a pro or a beginner the articles will be welcomed. Fly patterns techniques, how-to and all the pitfalls when selecting equipment and where to use it and when. Best of all it’s FREE!
Ok it’s free, but where the heck is the site? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you fish lakes for trout and other species, this is for you. Whether a pro or a beginner the articles will be welcomed. Fly patterns techniques, how-to and all the pitfalls when selecting equipment and where to use it and when. Best of all it’s FREE!
Ok it’s free, but where the heck is the site?
I can’t help you with the URL for the original poster’s magazine (can’t find it myself), but there is a decent on line magazine at http://www.fishandfly.co.uk , if you’re interested. Brian Cass
Ok it’s free, but where the heck is the site? If you fish lakes for trout and other species, this is for you. Whether a pro or a beginner the articles will be welcomed. Fly patterns techniques, how-to and all the pitfalls when selecting equipment and where to use it and when. Best of all it’s FREE!
Try http://www.rural.escape.ca/angling_north/ and click on "fly fishing".
Try http://www.rural.escape.ca/angling_north/ and click on "fly fishing".
And it will be well worth your time — set aside an evening for it. Bob Sheedy knows more about flyfishing for trout in lakes than all the rest of us put together, and I suspect he catches more 20+ inch trout before lunch on the average weekend than I have caught in my life. Be sure to get a towel to wipe the drool off your keyboard when you see the pictures of the trout he catches. Bob, if you’re listening, you want to set up a Prairie Clave sometime? Kevin
What’s the address dude?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you fish lakes for trout and other species, this is for you. Whether a pro or a beginner the articles will be welcomed. Fly patterns techniques, how-to and all the pitfalls when selecting equipment and where to use it and when. Best of all it’s FREE!
Heading for RMNP area for 1 1/2-2 weeks this summer, probably mid to late July. Will be camping for part of the time maybe in or north of the park and then spending 4 days in Estes Park. Looking for advice on places to fish and places to avoid. Mostly interested in smaller streams or shallow lakes. Will be wading-no float tube-with a 7′9" 3/4 wt. Once the family is safely in the confines of a cabin or lodge I may take a solo overnight hike to a more remote lake/stream. Any advice on places and patterns will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mark
Fished there last summer around July. I had a great time on the Thompson and on the headwaters of the Colorado. Usually we could fish till around 4pm before the thunder and lightning rainstorms drove us for cover. The further you wandered away from the road, the better the fishing got. Although most fish ran 7-10", there were a few larger and some we saw, but could not get to rise in the gin-clear water, that probably went 21/2 to 3lbs. A 3/4 short rod is a good choice. On the west side of the park, the Colorado runs into an area that is filthy with beaver dams. A stealthy approach to the dams brought non-stop action on brookies and cutthroats. The Estes Park Angler in Estes Park is a good source for fly fishing information. The fish were not that picky. However, a lime trude sizes 14-16, worked best. We also picked up fish on elkhair caddis, yellow humpies, hoppers, and stimulators. Randall S. Davis
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Heading for RMNP area for 1 1/2-2 weeks this summer, probably mid to late July. Will be camping for part of the time maybe in or north of the park and then spending 4 days in Estes Park. Looking for advice on places to fish and places to avoid. Mostly interested in smaller streams or shallow lakes. Will be wading-no float tube-with a 7′9" 3/4 wt. Once the family is safely in the confines of a cabin or lodge I may take a solo overnight hike to a more remote lake/stream. Any advice on places and patterns will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mark
Matt, This isn’t a "trip report" – this is a "day in the life report" and I hate you for it! 
Stop posting cruel things like this. -Greg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I moved into a new house last month that has a trout stream running thruogh the backyard. Seeing as how work is slow (like I just said there’s a trout stream in the backyard) and my truck’s broken down (really too bad), I’ve had lots of time to get familiar with my new home waters. Today proved to be one of the finest days yet. I’ve been working on fishing the entire thing and today I managed to fish one of the branches all the way to its source. The crest of the blue ridge mtns. (that’s the only clue you’ll get).Today, I found brookie heaven. The weather was perfect, the water is finally back to normal and the fish wouldn’t leave my fly alone. I watched more than one fish strike at the fly three times before gitting a hold on it. One after another we hauled em. I was using a big fly (sz. 12 wooly bugger) so the little guys were having a hard time getting a grip on it. This was fine though, the fun is in the strike. I managed to land about 5 or 6 before pangs of hunger drove me home. I’ve gotta start remembering to bring along a snack.Tomorrow I’m fishing a different branch too see if it might be a "second heaven". I’ll keep you posted…P.S. Sorry to hear you didn’t catch any fish walt. Better luck next time
believer in stocked trout breakfasts with eggs over easy, sourdough toast, French Market Coffee, and buttermilk pancakes, WITH maple syrup.
Yikes! I guess that explains your "Frequent Cardiac Surgery Card", George! ;^) /daytripper
believer in stocked trout breakfasts with eggs over easy, sourdough toast, French Market Coffee, and buttermilk pancakes, WITH maple syrup.
George, I thought you told me you were diebetic. (?) All those carbs AND sugar! Dave
I moved into a new house last month that has a trout stream running thruogh the backyard. Seeing as how work is slow (like I just said there’s a trout stream in the backyard) and my truck’s broken down (really too bad), I’ve had lots of time to get familiar with my new home waters. Today proved to be one of the finest days yet. I’ve been working on fishing the entire thing and today I managed to fish one of the branches all the way to its source. The crest of the blue ridge mtns. (that’s the only clue you’ll get). Today, I found brookie heaven. The weather was perfect, the water is finally back to normal and the fish wouldn’t leave my fly alone. I watched more than one fish strike at the fly three times before gitting a hold on it. One after another we hauled em. I was using a big fly (sz. 12 wooly bugger) so the little guys were having a hard time getting a grip on it. This was fine though, the fun is in the strike. I managed to land about 5 or 6 before pangs of hunger drove me home. I’ve gotta start remembering to bring along a snack. Tomorrow I’m fishing a different branch too see if it might be a "second heaven". I’ll keep you posted… P.S. Sorry to hear you didn’t catch any fish walt. Better luck next time
Wonderful little stream near Boone. Fish it often and enjoy the Brookies as well as some of the local company. Glad you like it too. See you there! Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. I moved into a new house last month that has a trout stream running thruogh the backyard. Seeing as how work is slow (like I just said there’s a trout stream in the backyard) and my truck’s broken down (really too bad), I’ve had lots of time to get familiar with my new home waters. Today proved to be one of the finest days yet. I’ve been working on fishing the entire thing and today I managed to fish one of the branches all the way to its source. The crest of the blue ridge mtns. (that’s the only clue you’ll get). Today, I found brookie heaven. The weather was perfect, the water is finally back to normal and the fish wouldn’t leave my fly alone. I watched more than one fish strike at the fly three times before gitting a hold on it. One after another we hauled em. I was using a big fly (sz. 12 wooly bugger) so the little guys were having a hard time getting a grip on it. This was fine though, the fun is in the strike. I managed to land about 5 or 6 before pangs of hunger drove me home. I’ve gotta start remembering to bring along a snack. Tomorrow I’m fishing a different branch too see if it might be a "second heaven". I’ll keep you posted… P.S. Sorry to hear you didn’t catch any fish walt. Better luck next time
P.S. Sorry to hear you didn’t catch any fish walt. Better luck next time
your condolences are most welcome, guess they couldn’t see my size 20 dry in all that big moving water. that’s ok….. i probably should have tied on an "ollie" like you did. for gods sake, it’s january, too early for dries. waldo
Walt, you might want to go smaller next time. The sulphurs won’t be hatching for months;) Try a 28 midge, they were nailing them last week. You were fishing the stocked section, right? <grin I heard those fish were easy to -**** Posted from remarQ, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- http://www.remarq.com/ – Host to the the World’s Discussions & Usenet
Walt, you might want to go smaller next time. The sulphurs won’t be hatching for months;) Try a 28 midge, they were nailing them last week. You were fishing the stocked section, right? <grin I heard those fish were easy to -**** Posted from remarQ, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- http://www.remarq.com/ – Host to the the World’s Discussions & Usenet
believer in stocked trout breakfasts with eggs over easy, sourdough toast, French Market Coffee, and buttermilk pancakes, WITH maple syrup.
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Matt, That post just shows what a low down bum you really are! Here’s the rest of the world, slaving away at the daily grind and YOU are fishing – in the backyard no less!!! Have you NO shame?! Tom — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC "If you’re not the lead dog, the view never changes."
Sir, Go to my web page and click on Resources. Once there click on Champ Charters and email Captain Paul. He is a great guy and an awesome togue and salmon fisherman. He will certainly be able to help you. Good luck. James Ehlers Underhill, Vermont And yes lakers are very deep in August…downriggers are a must. Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle
every year i go to the northern maine woods to camp and fish. it has been three years and going again the first week in august. i have never even gotten a bite. i am from mas. and solely fish for bass which ifeel i am very good at. so im new to the lake fishing theres also salmon in maine lakes. i would appreciate any help or info on methods,time,weather on cathching them. this will be the first year that i will be using a downrigger in hopes it will work. not sure the proper depth but heard that
The show is scheduled for September 11-14. In years past, Organizers, Etc. (800 283-2754) have helped attendees with travel and lodging reservations. You might give them a call for details.
Hello Simon: Contact the staff of the International Fly Tackle Dealer Show at: PO Box 370 Camden, ME 04843 Clay
I am very keen to attend the Denver Fly Fishing Trade Show in September. Could someone please furnish me with details.
The organization behind the promotion of this show is Fly Rod & Reel Magazine. Their address is: Fly Rod & Reel PO Box 370 Camden, Maine 04843 You can also send E-Mail from their home page at: http://flyfishers.com/fly-rod-reel.html Regards, Trent P Roberson Rx F Fish "For Your Good Health, Fly Fish" URL=http://www.xnet.com/~rxffish
I am very keen to attend the Denver Fly Fishing Trade Show in September. Could someone please furnish me with details.
You can write Fly Tackle Dealer Magazine at Box 370 Camden, Maine 04843. You can probably e-mail Fly Rod and Reel (same group) through their web site (sorry, don’t know the Domain Name). -Ralph Ralph Cutter, California School of Flyfishing. http://www.flyline.com
we usually catch at least twenty big Browns (2-4 lbs) in an hour or so.
Curtis, I must have missed your first message where you gave the name of thr river you were fishing. Just post it to me on private E-mail, we don’t want to bother all of the fishermen on this group with small talk. Ernie Harrison
Fishing spawning beds ??? I dont know nuffink about the case in question guv, but fishing a spawning bed just does not seem to be a done thing old chap
I think that’s a good assessment of the situation. Thanks.
I remember reading an article in either Trout or Fly Fisherman of a study that looked at the effect of wading across spawning beds on egg mortality. I don’t recall exact numbers, but more than 75% of the eggs were squashed in the study setting. Sounds like besides stressing this year’s fish, you are also impacting several years of fish classes.
I remember reading an article in either Trout or Fly Fisherman of a study that looked at the effect of wading across spawning beds on egg mortality. I don’t recall exact numbers, but more than 75% of the eggs were squashed in the study setting. Sounds like besides stressing this year’s fish, you are also impacting several years of fish classes.
Ditto!, Flyfishing affords us the chance to think before we act..IF we choose to. sd
Now that the Browns are spawning, I have been fishing the spawning beds quite heavily lately on our local river and have been wondering what effect it has on the spawing fish. I’ve heard that if you’re careful where you step, the actual catching of the fish doesn’t have too much of an effect on them. To give you an idea of what its like, we usually catch at least twenty big Browns (2-4 lbs) in an hour or so. I would appreciate any comments or experience anyone might have.
Curtis, think REAL hard now….does anyone go through your bed with corks on? Not the best place to hook fish. Harry
writes: I would imagine that since fishing is allowed on this stream during the spawning period that the local biologists are not terribly worried about population level effects, either because the stream is heavilly stocked or there are adequate numbers of trout and spawning areas to compensate for the fish which are not able to complete spawning because of being caught.
I think that the Fish and Game departments are less concerned about numbers of fish and more interested in revenues. For a lot of people, the spawning periods and fishing on the beds are the only time that they can catch large numbers of fish on a lot of the heavily pressured rivers. The Wildlife Resource guys smile upon this because the happier their anglers are, the more liscenses they sell; the more liscenses they sell, the more money they make for their management needs. The problem with this is that resource management seems to be entirely about budgets rather than sensibility. Why protect a wild strain when you can make a bunch of money to stock the depleted river with hatchery fish the next year? One case which sticks out like a sore thumb is our local Provo River which has been so well advertised this year. Western Rivers Flyfisher {full service fly shop and outfitter} 867 East 900 South – SLC, UT 84105 (800)545-4312~~(801)521-6424~~fax(801)521-6329 Green River reports, Utah fishing conditions, and statewide guide info.
As a non-scientist (but an avid angler) who follows this issue closely here in PA, I think Mark is dead on the money in his assessment…… Each individual stream is very much a situation unto itself in terms of population dynamics, recriutment, natural mortality, etc…. If wild trout in a freestone stream have a 40-70 percent annual natural mortality regardless of angling pressure, as I have read, then the effect of issues like catching and releasing spawning fish may be masked and indiscernable to the average angler from season to season……. However, in heavily pressured fisheries, I suppose every little bit hurts. Additionally, it occurs to me that our measurement of fish abundance as anglers tends to tell us very little in many cases…Here in PA, the prevailing management strategy removes BT streams from the stocking list when they exceed a biomass of about 40 lb/surface acre of water. Some of our better freestones hold in the 75-95 lb/acre range fairly consistently. Now, if because of drought, flood, predation or fishing over spawners, stream A goes from 85 lb/acre last year to 60 lb/acre this year, do you think as anglers we would be able to tell the difference when we fished the stream? 60 lb/acre is still a lot of trout. So the difference is kinda like waking up in the morning and finding 23 inches of snow on your car as opposed to 19 inches. Either one is more than enough snow… It’s all very subjective in my view….
Now that the Browns are spawning, I have been fishing the spawning beds quite heavily lately on our local river and have been wondering what effect it has on the spawing fish. I’ve heard that if you’re careful where you step, the actual catching of the fish doesn’t have too much of an effect on them. To give you an idea of what its like, we usually catch at least twenty big Browns (2-4 lbs) in an hour or so. I would appreciate any comments or experience anyone might have.<<<<
The reproductive cycle, from the production of gonads thru the actual act of spawning, takes up a tremendous amount of energy for a trout. In fact many trout will die within weeks of spawning. The added stress of being caught and fought to the point of exhaustion probably increases that fishes chance of dieing within a few weeks. Also that fish may not have enough left in it after the fight to finish spawning, therefore no prodigy will be spawned from that individual this year. If ther is enough trout and enough prime spawning areas in the stream to compensate for the fish which are not spawning because of being caught, then compensatory reproduction and survival of young should help to prevent any noticible population level effects. If, however, either there is so much fishing pressure, or so little adequate spawning areas for these fish then you could be having profound impacts on the population (or actually the future population) in this stream. I would imagine that since fishing is allowed on this stream during the spawning period that the local biologists are not terribly worried about population level effects, either because the stream is heavilly stocked or there are adequate numbers of trout and spawning areas to compensate for the fish which are not able to complete spawning because of being caught. it is worry some to me anyway that someone can catch "at least twenty fish in an hour". This sounds to me like this spawning population is big time vunerable to anglers. But on the other hand if so many fish are available and this type of fishing has been common in th past then one could conclude that the population seems able to compensate for the increased mortality of spawning fish due to being caught.It is imporatnt to note that no two streams are alike and what may be fine on one stream could be devestating to the next. Just my two cents anyway. Mark Arrigo SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry Syracuse, NY