I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it.
Ditto. Joe F.
I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Ditto.
Ditto ditto. I also have the C clamp base. I use that at home and the pedestal when I travel. — Charlie…
I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Ditto. Ditto ditto. I also have the C clamp base. I use that at home and the pedestal when I travel.
For an economical, non-rotary vise, I started with the Griffin 2A. A nice vise for not much money. It’s worth mentioning in light of Charlie’s post that the clamp base for the Griffin and the pedestal base for the Renzetti are interchangeable between the two vises. Joe F.
I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it.
I have the heavy-duty version of the Renzetti Traveler. I think it’s called the "Saltwater" model, but I’m not sure. Anyway, it gives me the flexibility to tie big steelhead flies, but it still works OK for small flies. I recommend the pedestal version. You can always fix it to your table with a small C-clamp.
[posted and mailed] [snip] So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it.
FWIW (for the Western New England contingent), I just got back from BG Sporting Goods in Westfield, MA and all of their vises are 20% off, which makes their price on the Traveler with cam and pedestal base about $125.00. They also had some nice STH reels at 50% off. — TL, Tim
Joe F. writes: I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Ditto. Joe F.
Ditto Dave
I would recommend the Orvis rotary.
Second that George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." —- J.W Muller
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [posted and mailed] [snip] So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Paul
Another vote here for the Traveler Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html
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A Renzetti Presentation would be excellent and won’t cost you your left nut… /daytripper Don’t you mean Renzetti Traveler? At $325 the Presentation is approaching the left nut range.
WTF – did they go and rename the product line? Or did all those years of Reagan-era inflation triple the price? The Presentation I have sitting on my desk went for all of $130 when I bought it… /daytripper (nonplussed!
So what vise guys.
Oh, vise guys, is it? Listen kiddo ve vas fly fishin ven your mama vas feedin you on prechewed gefilte fish! HAH! Wolfgang i’ll give ya vise guys! :(
Don’t you mean Renzetti Traveler? At $325 the Presentation is approaching the left nut range. WTF – did they go and rename the product line? Or did all those years of Reagan-era inflation triple the price? The Presentation I have sitting on my desk went for all of $130 when I bought it… /daytripper (nonplussed!
and in what era was that? The Pleistocene? Peter (who paid more for his in deflated Northern Pesos)
My folks gave me a Regal for Christmas about 15 years ago. Have never had a problem, still using it today. Mine is a little different than this newer model, (no swivel head) but the jaws are pretty much the same. Great vise! http://www.worleybuggerflyco.com/flytyingtools/Regal_Vises.htm Good luck, JRT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill
[posted and mailed] [snip] So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill
I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Paul
(I can be pretty abusive).
Though, from what I’ve read here, you are mostly self-abusive. Kevin Wait, that doesn’t sound right…
So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Alright, let’s not get snippy A Renzetti Presentation would be excellent and won’t cost you your left nut… /daytripper
Don’t you mean Renzetti Traveler? At $325 the Presentation is approaching the left nut range. Paul
I would choose flyfishing over drinking, doing drugs, cheating on your spouse, or collecting beanie babies . . . but that’s just my opinion. Memphis Jim
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think I have it narrowed down to these. I will have to have pedestal base. So when pricing I have just added it in. I like these over at: www.hookhackle.com STANDARD VISES AA vise left and Super II vise right A) AA Vise. Cam closing. Adjustable height. Ideal starter vise for beginners.Item No. 6AAVISE B) Super II Rotating Vise. C-clamp. Black finish. Lever action. Knob on side of vise allows full 360 degree rotation. Jaws will handle hooks in range of 4/0 to 22. Adjustable height and angle. This is a top quality vise and our favorite! Item No. 9408103
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So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Alright, let’s not get snippy A Renzetti Presentation would be excellent and won’t cost you your left nut… /daytripper
But still three times more than his highest-priced choice. Just slightly above your price range is the Thompson A Vise, at around $35- $40 at many fly shops. The advantage over all the vises Cabelas has on that page is a stellar reputation for being a very functional utilitarian vise that will last for years and years. If anything on it breaks, its easily and cheaply replaceable, without buying a whole new vise. — Scott Reverse first field of address to reply
http://www.mossycreek.com/orvis_rotary.htm I would recommend the Orvis rotary. I got the original of this, made by Danica while over in the UK. Its not as pretty as a Renzetti, but its a vise that will be passed down and used by your great grand kids even after the most abusive use you can think of (I can be pretty abusive). All this for only $80. I’ve even gotten a couple of professional tiers to switch (Mike Martinek for one). — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think I have it narrowed down to these. I will have to have pedestal base. So when pricing I have just added it in. I like these over at: www.hookhackle.com STANDARD VISES AA vise left and Super II vise right A) AA Vise. Cam closing. Adjustable height. Ideal starter vise for beginners.Item No. 6AAVISE B) Super II Rotating Vise. C-clamp. Black finish. Lever action. Knob on side of vise allows full 360 degree rotation. Jaws will handle hooks in range of 4/0 to 22. Adjustable height and angle. This is a top quality vise and our favorite! Item No. 9408103 …2 2 .00 PEDESTAL BASE Designed for the vises above, but can be used with any 3/8" stemmed vise. Over at: www.cabelas.com I like their vises, kind of leaning toward the Atlantic http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal- pod.jhtml;jsessio nid=DYSOZMKXN0VA0CWQNVECFFAK0BWUMIV0?id=0011423&navAction=push&navCount =9&i n dexId=cat20534&parentId=cat20534&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabela s%2F e n%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fpod- link.jhtml.2_A&_DAV=http%3A%2F%2Fa1460.g.akamai.n et%2Fv%2F1460%2F1339%2F6h%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcontent%2F Pod% 2 F01%2F14%2F23%2Fp011423ii01.jpg Please help me decide. I also like the Super 2 at hook and hackle Bill Mc That has to be the most effed-up url ever posted here…
Believe it or not, I just selected the whole deal in Xnews, right clicked and selected "Edit URL", hit OK, and it took me right to the page. Xnews rocks! — Scott Reverse first field of address to reply
So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink.
Alright, let’s not get snippy A Renzetti Presentation would be excellent and won’t cost you your left nut… /daytripper
http://www.nor-vise.com/norviseinfo.html Best ever. Mr.G.
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So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill
Over at: www.cabelas.com I like their vises, kind of leaning toward the Atlantic http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal- pod.jhtml;jsessio
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Gee, that link was easy to put back together! Next time, try www.makeashorterlink.com http://makeashorterlink.com/?C30C24E62
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think I have it narrowed down to these. I will have to have pedestal base. So when pricing I have just added it in. I like these over at: www.hookhackle.com STANDARD VISES AA vise left and Super II vise right A) AA Vise. Cam closing. Adjustable height. Ideal starter vise for beginners.Item No. 6AAVISE B) Super II Rotating Vise. C-clamp. Black finish. Lever action. Knob on side of vise allows full 360 degree rotation. Jaws will handle hooks in range of 4/0 to 22. Adjustable height and angle. This is a top quality vise and our favorite! Item No. 9408103 2 .00 PEDESTAL BASE Designed for the vises above, but can be used with any 3/8" stemmed vise. Over at: www.cabelas.com I like their vises, kind of leaning toward the Atlantic http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal- pod.jhtml;jsessio nid=DYSOZMKXN0VA0CWQNVECFFAK0BWUMIV0?id=0011423&navAction=push&navCount=9& i n dexId=cat20534&parentId=cat20534&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2 F e n%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fpod- link.jhtml.2_A&_DAV=http%3A%2F%2Fa1460.g.akamai.n et%2Fv%2F1460%2F1339%2F6h%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcontent%2FPod% 2 F01%2F14%2F23%2Fp011423ii01.jpg Please help me decide. I also like the Super 2 at hook and hackle Bill Mc
That has to be the most effed-up url ever posted here…
I think I have it narrowed down to these. I will have to have pedestal base. So when pricing I have just added it in. I like these over at: www.hookhackle.com STANDARD VISES AA vise left and Super II vise right A) AA Vise. Cam closing. Adjustable height. Ideal starter vise for beginners.Item No. 6AAVISE B) Super II Rotating Vise. C-clamp. Black finish. Lever action. Knob on side of vise allows full 360 degree rotation. Jaws will handle hooks in range of 4/0 to 22. Adjustable height and angle. This is a top quality vise and our favorite! Item No. 9408103 2 .00 PEDESTAL BASE Designed for the vises above, but can be used with any 3/8" stemmed vise. Over at: www.cabelas.com I like their vises, kind of leaning toward the Atlantic http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal- pod.jhtml;jsessio nid=DYSOZMKXN0VA0CWQNVECFFAK0BWUMIV0?id=0011423&navAction=push&navCount=9&i n dexId=cat20534&parentId=cat20534&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2F e n%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fpod- link.jhtml.2_A&_DAV=http%3A%2F%2Fa1460.g.akamai.n et%2Fv%2F1460%2F1339%2F6h%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcontent%2FPod% 2 F01%2F14%2F23%2Fp011423ii01.jpg Please help me decide. I also like the Super 2 at hook and hackle Bill Mc — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Here in Missouri we use a fly called a "mullberry" made to loof like rotting/floating mulberries, which carp eat. Don’t ask me how to make them, I just buy them. At the right time of year at local lakes and ponds carp can be great fun.
Never made a mulberry fly, but I’ve eaten millions of the berries. I imagine some coarse purple chenille or yarn wound around a hook to about 3/4" length and 1/2" or so diameter would do just fine.
"Round and round the mulberry bush. like a teddy bear, one step two steps, watch out for that crap there " Modification of an old childrens rhyme, which seemed to fit some of the present threads, and my mood ! 
By the way, "millions of the berries", assuming a weight of a third of an ounce per berry and two million berries = 41,666 lbs. of berries or 18,94 metric Tonnes ! Personally I think that would give me the shits !
Third of an ounce per berry is a gross over-estimation. It’s probably a lot closer to thirty per ounce. On the other hand, a half pound or so WILL give you the shits…….well, it has me anyway; many times. Some things are worth the price though. p.s. Aside from the distaste some might have for using bait, the naturals are simply much too good to waste on carp; no one can can truly say that he or she has lived a full life before sampling a well made mulberry pie!
"Round and round the mulberry bush. like a teddy bear, one step two steps, watch out for that crap there " Modification of an old childrens rhyme, which seemed to fit some of the present threads, and my mood ! By the way, "millions of the berries", assuming a weight of a third of an ounce per berry and two million berries = 41,666 lbs. of berries or 18,94 metric Tonnes ! Personally I think that would give me the shits ! TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de
Ok guys, stay on topic, it’s "CARP" not "CRAP" <Gjim
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Round and round the mulberry bush. like a teddy bear, one step two steps, watch out for that crap there " Modification of an old childrens rhyme, which seemed to fit some of the present threads, and my mood ! By the way, "millions of the berries", assuming a weight of a third of an ounce per berry and two million berries = 41,666 lbs. of berries or 18,94 metric Tonnes ! Personally I think that would give me the shits ! Third of an ounce per berry is a gross over-estimation. It’s probably a lot closer to thirty per ounce. On the other hand, a half pound or so WILL give you the shits…….well, it has me anyway; many times. Some things are worth the price though. p.s. Aside from the distaste some might have for using bait, the naturals are simply much too good to waste on carp; no one can can truly say that he or she has lived a full life before sampling a well made mulberry pie!
I usually fish yarn more than anything else. I’ve had suckers in a river so thick that they are bumpin into your waders, and you cannot even make a drift without snagging or picking up a sucker. Thats when I head to the white water. The steelhead like that heavy water, and the suckers usually will fall back in the slack water. Tony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Suckers, the ones with a "down-turned sucker mouth" will readily take a nymph. Much to my surprise, I caught one in brook trout water fishing a big stonefly nymph. That sucker (pun intended) took off on a great run through a big pool. I thought I had a good size brookie on until I got it in closer. Must have weighed about 5 pounds. A couple of friends saw me from a distance and later asked me how big was "that brookie". I said it was a 4 pounder. <g Dave LaCourse Don’t laugh but I’ve caught suckers on streamers. There’s one heavy chute on the Credit that’s tough to fish using regular streamer methods. I’d dead drift streamers like nymphs using a sinktip and some weight for the steelhead that like to sit on the bottom. Every now and again, I’d feel a pull rather than a strike, set the hook and up would come one pissed off sucker. These weren’t foul hookups, the suckers were taking the streamers. I figure that it was one of two thinks, the suckers were acting territorial or that they feed on dead, drifting minnows. Hooked up about five suckers but never did get a steelie that day. Peter
We were fishing right on the bottom, so I don’t know if the carp actually took the fly or if it was nestled in the aquatic vegetation upon which he was a munch’n.
I have landed several here in farm/subdivision ponds and at Callaway Gardens here in west Georgia. All of my fish have taken topwater deer-hair flys – I think they look like grass to them. The approach & presentation must be very stealthy – grass carp are very spooky when feeding on top. Here’s on of them – http://kje.home.mindspring.com/grass_carp.htm
I have landed several here in farm/subdivision ponds and at Callaway Gardens here in west Georgia. All of my fish have taken topwater deer-hair flys – I think they look like grass to them. The approach & presentation must be very stealthy – grass carp are very spooky when feeding on top. Here’s on of them – http://kje.home.mindspring.com/grass_carp.htm
That’s a great looking fish, Kent. Aren’t those big scales fabulous? Tight Lines, Tony Deacon
I have landed several here in farm/subdivision ponds http://kje.home.mindspring.com/grass_carp.htm
I bet landing that sucker was a blast. How does a small farm/subdivision "pond" support several fish of that size? I have to assume that once they devour all the grass, fry are next on their menu…. do these ponds have any other fish left in them? jim
Though I’ve never caught one, the "Carp on a Fly" book claims that grass carp, although known for eating plants, will readily eat other food, insects, nymphs, and whatever. They actually have less of a down-turned "sucker" mouth than normal carp, and thus can take live prey more easily (I assume).
Last week, I had one take a generic black wooly bugger just under the surface, sight casted to him just after sunset as they began rolling up on the surface. Awesome fight for a 3-4lb fish in a restricted, snag-free channel.
Jon Cook writes: Though I’ve never caught one, the "Carp on a Fly" book claims that grass carp, although known for eating plants, will readily eat other food, insects, nymphs, and whatever. They actually have less of a down-turned "sucker" mouth than normal carp, and thus can take live prey more easily (I assume).
Suckers, the ones with a "down-turned sucker mouth" will readily take a nymph. Much to my surprise, I caught one in brook trout water fishing a big stonefly nymph. That sucker (pun intended) took off on a great run through a big pool. I thought I had a good size brookie on until I got it in closer. Must have weighed about 5 pounds. A couple of friends saw me from a distance and later asked me how big was "that brookie". I said it was a 4 pounder. <g Dave LaCourse
Here in Missouri we use a fly called a "mullberry" made to loof like rotting/floating mulberries, which carp eat. Don’t ask me how to make them, I just buy them. At the right time of year at local lakes and ponds carp can be great fun.
Suckers, the ones with a "down-turned sucker mouth" will readily take a nymph. Much to my surprise, I caught one in brook trout water fishing a big stonefly nymph. That sucker (pun intended) took off on a great run through a big pool. I thought I had a good size brookie on until I got it in closer. Must have weighed about 5 pounds. A couple of friends saw me from a distance and later asked me how big was "that brookie". I said it was a 4 pounder. <g Dave LaCourse
Don’t laugh but I’ve caught suckers on streamers. There’s one heavy chute on the Credit that’s tough to fish using regular streamer methods. I’d dead drift streamers like nymphs using a sinktip and some weight for the steelhead that like to sit on the bottom. Every now and again, I’d feel a pull rather than a strike, set the hook and up would come one pissed off sucker. These weren’t foul hookups, the suckers were taking the streamers. I figure that it was one of two thinks, the suckers were acting territorial or that they feed on dead, drifting minnows. Hooked up about five suckers but never did get a steelie that day. Peter
Two years ago the DNR stocked my local fishing hole with grass eating carp in an effort to control the grass/hydrilla. That’s another story…. Wednesday I planned to fish after work and talked my fishing buddy into joining me. He did not have anything with him so he would use one of my rods (Sage 5wt). We hit the water about 3 PM and the fishing was great, in about two hours we had hooked about 100 gills and crappie. Then he set the hook into what turned out to be about a 20 LB carp (my guess). I have been told by DNR that these damn things eat 6 times their body weight each day and grow like hell. I swear the thing was 3 feet long, I don’t remember ever catching a carp and had no idea what they fought like. It did not make any big runs, just short spurts and then unbelievable jumps like a salmon or trout. It made one run directly under the boat and jumped on the other side, at this point his rod (my Sage) was half submerged and bent under the boat, all I could do was yell "Let it run and damn it, don’t break my rod". It made one more beautiful jump and straightened the hook. He was using 4LB tippet with a #12 wooly. Ugly fish but a sight to see. We were fishing right on the bottom, so I don’t know if the carp actually took the fly or if it was nestled in the aquatic vegetation upon which he was a munch’n. Gawd, those leaps were spectacular jim
I will be going to Alaska this summer and would like to fly fish for anything. I am an avid hiker and will be hiking in Denali National Park, the Wrangell-st.elias National Park as well as the entire Kenai Peninsula and Prince William sound region. Rivers that I can hike to and fish would be ideal. Is there anyone who has been to that region that might have any information about what there is to fish for and where I could access the best spots on rivers. Tight lines, Brent
I will be going to Alaska this summer and would like to fly fish for anything. I am an avid hiker and will be hiking in Denali National Park, the Wrangell-st.elias National Park as well as the entire Kenai Peninsula and Prince William sound region. Rivers that I can hike to and fish would be ideal. Is there anyone who has been to that region that might have any information about what there is to fish for and where I could access the best spots on rivers. Tight lines, Brent
You are hiking the entire Kenai and Prince Williams Sound. Are you sure you have a map that shows a scale? Anyway, I would be more worried about my boots then the fishing. Walt in Juneau, AK.
I apologize for the confusion. These are general areas that I am considering. I only plan on going to Denali for a week and then one other specific place for a week. I would love some input as to which areas would give me the best opportunities for good hiking and GREAT fishing in July. I would want to fish for trout or salmon. (I’m not picky). Any response would be helpful. Thanks, Brent – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be going to Alaska this summer and would like to fly fish for anything. I am an avid hiker and will be hiking in Denali National Park, the Wrangell-st.elias National Park as well as the entire Kenai Peninsula and Prince William sound region. Rivers that I can hike to and fish would be ideal. Is there anyone who has been to that region that might have any information about what there is to fish for and where I could access the best spots on rivers. Tight lines, Brent You are hiking the entire Kenai and Prince Williams Sound. Are you sure you have a map that shows a scale? Anyway, I would be more worried about my boots then the fishing. Walt in Juneau, AK.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, about 4 weeks ago I received my Notice Of Pendency And Settlement Of Class Action in the Couch vs Brunswick class action suit. Since my last purchase has twin engines I have received 2 claim forms to send in. I am in a greedy mood and wonder why I did not receive forms for the purchases in 95, 96 and 97 as they were all Mercruiser powered boats also. Oh well, two is enough I guess. Anyway here are the choices. I will announce my two choices and wonder what you would choose or what you did choose if you are a member of the suit. I’m curious as to the particulars of this case. What was the reason for the lawsuit? Defective products, overpricing, or something else?
I don’t have any specifics, but the general flavor of the situation indicated anti-competitive pricing and marketing issues. Had nothing to do with the quality of the products themselves. Russ
Well, about 4 weeks ago I received my Notice Of Pendency And Settlement Of Class Action in the Couch vs Brunswick class action suit. Since my last purchase has twin engines I have received 2 claim forms to send in. I am in a greedy mood and wonder why I did not receive forms for the purchases in 95, 96 and 97 as they were all Mercruiser powered boats also. Oh well, two is enough I guess. Anyway here are the choices. I will announce my two choices and wonder what you would choose or what you did choose if you are a member of the suit.
I’m curious as to the particulars of this case. What was the reason for the lawsuit? Defective products, overpricing, or something else? BTW the suit is for all consumers who purchased a new Mercruiser stern drive or inboard engine in Tennessee, Alabama, Arizona, California, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Mwxico, North Carolina, North Dakota, South dakota, West Virginia, Wisconsin or the District of Columbia during the period from February 17, 1995 through February 16, 1999.
That explains why I didn’t get any notice for my 2 purchases during that time period. I don’t live in any of those states (Which is probably why I didn’t know anything about it). Dave
Go with the cash… Nothing tastes better than your favourite beverage bought by someone else.
To the rest of you what would you choose and why? If there are any NG members who are participants in the suit will you send in your claims and what did you choose and why. Just curious.
Cash, nothing else on the list fit any real need or desire of mine. The $100 can always go in the gas tank. I’ve only got one claim since it corresponds to my ‘97 Sea Ray which was a single. The ‘99 has twins, but was purchased after the inclusive dates. I might have an explanation as to why you didn’t get claim forms for your earlier purchases. In my case, I was not the original purchaser of the ‘97. I purchased it slightly used. However, when I bought it, I paid the nominal fee to MerCruiser to have the warranty and registration changed to my name. I assume MerCruiser tracks the lawsuit claims by engine serial numbers. I am the guy now registered to that serial number, hence I get the claim form. The odd part is that I don’t own the boat any longer. The people I sold it to had no reason to change the registration with MerCruiser, since the original factory warranty had expired in the period I owned it. If the buyers of your previous boats changed the registration with MerCruiser as I did, that could explain why you didn’t get claim forms for those purchases. Russ
You get a coupon and the lawyers get $333,000,342.
At least, I am sure. Probably very much more. 68 days to go..
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, about 4 weeks ago I received my Notice Of Pendency And Settlement Of Class Action in the Couch vs Brunswick class action suit. Since my last purchase has twin engines I have received 2 claim forms to send in. I am in a greedy mood and wonder why I did not receive forms for the purchases in 95, 96 and 97 as they were all Mercruiser powered boats also. Oh well, two is enough I guess. Anyway here are the choices. I will announce my two choices and wonder what you would choose or what you did choose if you are a member of the suit. BTW the suit is for all consumers who purchased a new Mercruiser stern drive or inboard engine in Tennessee, Alabama, Arizona, California, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Mwxico, North Carolina, North Dakota, South dakota, West Virginia, Wisconsin or the District of Columbia during the period from February 17, 1995 through February 16, 1999. The choices are: A. $100.00 cash payment. B. Free Brunswick products – retail value up to $200 Life Vest package ($186.60) suggested retail price. The package includes 1 XL, 1 L, and 2 M blue/black Quicksilver vests. Each vest has closed sides, four 1" belts, and denier coated nylon shell covering soft Ensolite foam. Kneeboard package ($195.75) suggested retail price. The package includes one Quicksilver "Hurricane" Kneeboard; one 75′ soft handled ski rope and four USCG approved Quicksilver boat cushions. Igloo Cooler ($149.99) suggested retail price. One 128 qt. Igloo Marine cooler with a foam insulated body and lid, nautical rope, wood handles and a threaded drain plug. Brunswick bowling ball and bag ($199.90) suggested retail price. One Brunswick Attack Zone mid-performance 16 lb bowling ball and one black Brunswick Zone Pro Double Roller bag. Zebco Fishing Pacage ($205.00) suggested retail price. The package includes one 100% graphite 6′ medium action, cork handled spinning rod with metal 4 ball bearing spinning reel; one 5′ 6" medium action, cork handled casting rod with Quantum Heat 1 ball bearing baitcast reel; one spincast combo with on-pack camera; one 275 yd., 10 lb Monofilament fishing line; and one 4" carbon steel hook. American Camper package ($200.00) suggested retail price. The package includes four American Camper 29" x 72" fleece lined, full length zipper sleeping bags; and one American Camper 9′ x 9′ four person dome tent with rain fly. Mongoose Mountain Bike ($199.00) suggested retail price. One adult Mongoose 21 speed mountain bike with dual suspension and 26" unisex frame. All rpoducts are subject to availability. If inventory problems should arise, Brunswick will substitute products within the category of equal or greater value. C. $200 Customer Rebate Coupon $200.00 consumer rebate coupon, valid for the purchase of any Mercury Marine Outboard of 60 horsepower or less, to be exercised of or before December 31, 2000. Those are the choices. I have decided to go with the Mongoose mountain bike and the American Camper package. I will be replacing a Huffy mountain bike that was stolen 3 years ago during one of my many trips to Put-in-Bay. I will go with the camper package since all my sleeping bags are at least 10 years old and showing their wear and tear. I don’t know if I will ever use the tent but who knows. I could always sell it I guess. Reasons for not choosing: The $100.00 cash payment. Not really much of an offer there. Once the money is spent it is gone and $200.00 is not going to make or break me. Life vest package. I already have 10 various sizes of life jackets aboard and most are 3 years old or newer. Kneeboard package. I really cannot see myself kneeboarding behind my 30′ Bayliner and besides that I may be to old to learn. Igloo cooler. My boat came with a 64 quart Igloo cooler so I really don’t need another one. Bowling ball and bag. I already own a bowling ball, bag and shoes so it would be redundant. Zebco fishing package. I don’t fish. $200 dollar consumer rebate coupon. I do not anticipate purchasing a new outboard motor anytime soon since I already own a Merc 15 hp motor for my inflatable. To the rest of you what would you choose and why? If there are any NG members who are participants in the suit will you send in your claims and what did you choose and why. Just curious. 68 days to go..
You get a coupon and the lawyers get $333,000,342. — Harry Krause The chance of a piece of bread falling with the buttered side down is directly proportional to the cost of the carpet
Well, about 4 weeks ago I received my Notice Of Pendency And Settlement Of Class Action in the Couch vs Brunswick class action suit. Since my last purchase has twin engines I have received 2 claim forms to send in. I am in a greedy mood and wonder why I did not receive forms for the purchases in 95, 96 and 97 as they were all Mercruiser powered boats also. Oh well, two is enough I guess. Anyway here are the choices. I will announce my two choices and wonder what you would choose or what you did choose if you are a member of the suit. BTW the suit is for all consumers who purchased a new Mercruiser stern drive or inboard engine in Tennessee, Alabama, Arizona, California, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Mwxico, North Carolina, North Dakota, South dakota, West Virginia, Wisconsin or the District of Columbia during the period from February 17, 1995 through February 16, 1999. The choices are: A. $100.00 cash payment. B. Free Brunswick products – retail value up to $200 Life Vest package ($186.60) suggested retail price. The package includes 1 XL, 1 L, and 2 M blue/black Quicksilver vests. Each vest has closed sides, four 1" belts, and denier coated nylon shell covering soft Ensolite foam. Kneeboard package ($195.75) suggested retail price. The package includes one Quicksilver "Hurricane" Kneeboard; one 75′ soft handled ski rope and four USCG approved Quicksilver boat cushions. Igloo Cooler ($149.99) suggested retail price. One 128 qt. Igloo Marine cooler with a foam insulated body and lid, nautical rope, wood handles and a threaded drain plug. Brunswick bowling ball and bag ($199.90) suggested retail price. One Brunswick Attack Zone mid-performance 16 lb bowling ball and one black Brunswick Zone Pro Double Roller bag. Zebco Fishing Pacage ($205.00) suggested retail price. The package includes one 100% graphite 6′ medium action, cork handled spinning rod with metal 4 ball bearing spinning reel; one 5′ 6" medium action, cork handled casting rod with Quantum Heat 1 ball bearing baitcast reel; one spincast combo with on-pack camera; one 275 yd., 10 lb Monofilament fishing line; and one 4" carbon steel hook. American Camper package ($200.00) suggested retail price. The package includes four American Camper 29" x 72" fleece lined, full length zipper sleeping bags; and one American Camper 9′ x 9′ four person dome tent with rain fly. Mongoose Mountain Bike ($199.00) suggested retail price. One adult Mongoose 21 speed mountain bike with dual suspension and 26" unisex frame. All rpoducts are subject to availability. If inventory problems should arise, Brunswick will substitute products within the category of equal or greater value. C. $200 Customer Rebate Coupon $200.00 consumer rebate coupon, valid for the purchase of any Mercury Marine Outboard of 60 horsepower or less, to be exercised of or before December 31, 2000. Those are the choices. I have decided to go with the Mongoose mountain bike and the American Camper package. I will be replacing a Huffy mountain bike that was stolen 3 years ago during one of my many trips to Put-in-Bay. I will go with the camper package since all my sleeping bags are at least 10 years old and showing their wear and tear. I don’t know if I will ever use the tent but who knows. I could always sell it I guess. Reasons for not choosing: The $100.00 cash payment. Not really much of an offer there. Once the money is spent it is gone and $200.00 is not going to make or break me. Life vest package. I already have 10 various sizes of life jackets aboard and most are 3 years old or newer. Kneeboard package. I really cannot see myself kneeboarding behind my 30′ Bayliner and besides that I may be to old to learn. Igloo cooler. My boat came with a 64 quart Igloo cooler so I really don’t need another one. Bowling ball and bag. I already own a bowling ball, bag and shoes so it would be redundant. Zebco fishing package. I don’t fish. $200 dollar consumer rebate coupon. I do not anticipate purchasing a new outboard motor anytime soon since I already own a Merc 15 hp motor for my inflatable. To the rest of you what would you choose and why? If there are any NG members who are participants in the suit will you send in your claims and what did you choose and why. Just curious. 68 days to go..
Thanks for the responeses, Jeff
Maybe you can help me, My Dad just got a fly rod from a friend whose father recently died. He would like to use it but does not want to if it is potientially valuable. It is a split bamboo, ~6′6". Printed on it is "GOLDEN BAMBOO" "MADE IN JAPAN" and signed "L.M. Dixon" Any ideas about it? Thanks, Jeff
Historically, Japanese Rods have not been treated well in the collectors market. They were made with much less care and dedication to detail than most USA or UK rods. Being somewhat familiar with the "market", I would suggest you get another opinion and then go fish the rod if it is still in good enough condition. The Japanese are very active these days buying USA made rods, both older and new. Tight lines. DSW
Dixon was not a very valuable rod in term of it’s collectability;Just becuase it’s bamboo doesn’t mean it’s valuable. In fact, most old bamboo rods are down right worthless then, and they are worthless now. One indication of quality of rod quality is to count the number of guides and look at the quality of ferrules. In the old days, the value of the bamboo rod were primarily determined by the quality and quantity of it’s hardware, not the bamboo blank itself, which could be worth next to nothing. It sound strange, but true. If the rod is in good shape, you may just wish to use it as is or, if you have the inclination, refinish with new poly varnish and rewrap new modern guides for modern fly lines etc… My first refinishing effort was on a old Dixon I picked up for next to nothing. I re-corked , re-coat with modern poly varnish and replaced all the guides with bigger one for modern fly lines, and you would not believe how the rod turned out. What’s more, it taught me alot about bamboo rod refinishing and it gave me insights into later refinishing and restoration efforts of other more valuable rods. To me, that Dixon was priceless. These refinishing efforts can be teach you alot about – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe you can help me, My Dad just got a fly rod from a friend whose father recently died. He would like to use it but does not want to if it is potientially valuable. It is a split bamboo, ~6′6". Printed on it is "GOLDEN BAMBOO" "MADE IN JAPAN" and signed "L.M. Dixon" Any ideas about it? Thanks, Jeff
_______ Like a spring Caddis Fly that will soon have gone through it’s complete metamorphosis, I am slowly becoming a BAMBOO GEEK. The study of cane never leaves my thoughts. I have cut a short piece and split it. I fondle it and carry it with me everywhere I go. It is thick. It is hard and sharp of edge and the sample holds a molecular world I know little of . . . yet my imagination travels inside it, inbetween all its molecules. Cured long ago, this yellow stick from the far Orient, has found a home. It speaks to me in a way better then words. So it is, inanimate in all respects, but a spirit of promise radiates from it like radium from plain rock, as it sits here, infecting me. I am drawn to the mysteries of Tonkin. I am sure of it, in my mind, on this adventure, that the very first fly rod I will make will be as good as the last one I will ever make in my life. I have been thinking about #1 for thousands of hours and for many months. No, I haven’t ever done this before, but it matters not because my whole life has been dressed in the clothing’s of the great outdoors. How could it not be so? I seldom do things badly in my life except I did piss on my own leg in a Mountain’s Wind Storm, once. I have it in my heart, that if someone doesn’t purchase #1 by the time I build it, I may donate it to a Museum. I will put a high price on it as a collector’s item and that will be that. I will let history judge the wisdom of it all years into the future, when people such as you and I are long dead nd gone, and another generation of Bastard Fly Rod Artists will pass on a legacy long since into high serial numbers. One day, some one will visit the A Museum of Fly Fishing and see the #1 Bastard Fly Rod and they may ask just one question. "I wish I could have been there to buy it when they had the chance," and we will giggle ourselves into eternity, while fly fishing one of God’s trout streams. Mr. G. i was never a man of hindsight http://www.gink.com
_______ Like a spring Caddis Fly that will soon have gone through it’s complete metamorphosis, I am slowly becoming a BAMBOO GEEK. The study of cane never leaves my thoughts. I have cut a short piece and split it. I fondle it and carry it with me everywhere I go. It is thick. It is hard and sharp of edge and the sample holds a molecular world I know little of . . . yet. Cured long ago, this yellow stick from the far Orient, has found a home. It speaks to me in a way better then words. So it is, inanimate in all respects, but a spirit of promise radiates from it like radium from a plain rock, as it sits here – infecting me, just sitting there. I am drawn by the mystery of Tonkin Cane. I have it in my mind, on this adventure, that the very first fly rod I make will be the best fly rod I will ever make in my life. I have been thinking about #1 for thousands of hours and for many months. No, I haven’t ever done this thing before, but it matters not because my whole life is now dressed in Bamboo. How could it not be so? I’ve never done anything badly in my life except piss on my own leg in a wind storm, once. I have it in my heart, that if someone doesn’t purchase #1 by the time I build it, I will donate this first Bastard of my dreams to The American Museum of Fly Fishing. I will put a high price on it as a collector’s item and that will be that. I will let history judge the wisdom of it all years into the future, when people such as you and I are long dead and gone, and another generation of Bastard Fly Rod Artists will pass on a legacy long since into high serial numbers. One day, some one will visit the American Museum of Fly Fishing and see the #1 Bastard Fly Rod I have in my mind and heart and they may ask just one question. "I wish I could have been there to buy it when I had the chance," and I will turn over in my grave giggling myself into eternity. I told you so. Mr. G. i was never a man of hindsight —
Anyone have any recent info on water and hatch conditions on the Bighorn river below Yellowtail dam? Thanks, Don
Anyone have any recent info on water and hatch conditions on the Bighorn river below Yellowtail dam? Thanks, Don
Hi Don The water is high but fishing is good on subsurface patterns. I’m not sure about the hatches. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)
There is a fair amount of info on the Bighorn, including current conditions, on Fly Fishing Adventures (http://www.ffa.com/). Check it out! Also, Bob Krumm lives in Ft. Smith and has guided the Bighorn for 12 years; contact him at (406) 666-2229; or call Bighorn Angler at (406) 666-2233. Larry Krum Editor, The Daily Hatch
The title just about says it all. I’m just starting out fly fishing for steelheads and am planning to haunt the NE Ohio/ NW PA lake Erie tribs in the near future. Any information, stories, suggestions, or stern warnings would be appreciated. — http://members.tripod.com/~trunculo/index
Watch the weather… I don’t know how far you will be driving, but you don’t want to have to go back home and get an ice pick.. Actually, this Winter has offered more open water than any in my memory. PA stream conditions are posted intermittently at the NWPA Chapter of TU web site. I do not have the url handy, but just put Northwest PA Chapter Trout Unlimited into any of the popular search engines and you will get there.
Thanks for the tips. As luck would have it, I drove up there last week and found myself trying to calculate just how much split shot would be required to sink my egg pattern through several feet of slush to where the fishies are. Oh well, Elk Creek is very pretty and I’ll be heading back up there. On the way home, I stopped by a local (Clear Fork Creek, by Mansfield, OH) trout stream and did pretty well on olive woolly buggers. Life could be _much_ worse. : Watch the weather… I don’t know how far you will be driving, but you don’t : want to have to go back home and get an ice pick.. : Actually, this Winter has offered more open water than any in my memory. PA : stream conditions are posted intermittently at the NWPA Chapter of TU web site. : I do not have the url handy, but just put Northwest PA Chapter Trout Unlimited : into any of the popular search engines and you will get there. — http://members.tripod.com/~trunculo/index
Sorry to post a double follow-up, but that url is http://www.tu.org/index.html Thanks for the tip! : Watch the weather… I don’t know how far you will be driving, but you don’t : want to have to go back home and get an ice pick.. : Actually, this Winter has offered more open water than any in my memory. PA : stream conditions are posted intermittently at the NWPA Chapter of TU web site. : I do not have the url handy, but just put Northwest PA Chapter Trout Unlimited : into any of the popular search engines and you will get there. — http://members.tripod.com/~trunculo/index
Want the finest flyfishing experience of your life? Little Grizzly Creek Ranch, Walden, Colorado, features outstanding new accommodations, gourmet food, fine wine, hosted bar, 7 miles of private streams at the headwaters of the North Platte, five varieties of trout, guides and instruction, all for one price. Check out our home page at: brochure. Reservations are being accepted for July, August and September or 1997.
Want the finest flyfishing experience of your life? Little Grizzly Creek Ranch, Walden, Colorado, features outstanding new accommodations, gourmet food, fine wine, hosted bar, 7 miles of private streams at the headwaters of the North Platte, five varieties of trout, guides and instruction, all for one price. Check out our home page at: brochure. Reservations are being accepted for July, August and September or 1997.
and when you’re done over there, come on over and we’ll murder some stockers and rip the tops off some homebrews. TimW Never a fee to my ‘clients’
I’ll be in Miami the first week in October. What’s running in the northern Keys or Biscanne Bay? I’ve flyrodded these flats before and alothough I know big bones are there, we saw very few fish. Of course it could have been, and probably was a bad fish day, but I might try again. Any suggestion for guides out of Miami? Adam
Try Luis Cruz at 305-262-4330. His beeper is 305-313-8491 (when tone rings just enter your phone number including area code there is no voice message). I’ve fished with many of the best guides in the Keys, including some of the famous legends. Luis is young, knowledgeable, hardworking, and has put me into fish every trip…I’ll be doing some flyfishing for permit with him in mid-September. He’s a number one guide who knows Key Biscayne like his back yard. Bob Elliott, Rochester, NY
I’ll be in Miami the first week in October. What’s running in the northern Keys or Biscanne Bay? I’ve flyrodded these flats before and alothough I know big bones are there, we saw very few fish. Of course it could have been, and probably was a bad fish day, but I might try again. Any suggestion for guides out of Miami? Adam
This is a good time to fish because it is cooling a little and the flats are not so crowded. You might find some baby tarpon ( 10 to 30#), bonefish, permit or redfish. This is the second season, Oct/Nov. The spring, April/May/June, is the most popular time to fish southern Florida. At this time you also have the big migration of tarpon. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA
I have an 8 wt, 9′ Fenwick boron/graphite salmon rod that is light, powerfull and a joy to fish with.
Can anyone provide me with information regarding boron rods. Specifically, I recently purchased an used 8′ 5 Wt. rod that appears to be made of boron (I can’t make out the manufacturer). On test casting, it seemed to perform approx. like a similar IM6 rod but it’s too cold up here and my line’s too stiff to be certain. I’m thinking of giving it to my 12 year old son for Easter. Is this sensible or would the IM6 be a better choice? This will be his first rod although he’s fooled around with mine a bit last year. Any info. on boron rods in general or this rod in particular would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I believe orvis also made a boron rod. They all seem to be about like IM6. This would be a good starter rod in my opinion.
The rod maker you are refering to is Don Phillips formerly from Connecticut now residing in Florida. (remainder omitted) Don was one, there also was Ted x? of Rodon Rod Co. who mixed the boron with graphite (further omission)
Darn it, even with this help, I still can’t remember who built my rod. Both these gentlemen sound familiar. (Though if forced to guess, I’d say it probably was Don Phillips.) Two details might help pin it down: I remember seeing the man whose rod my wife (then girlfriend) eventually bought for my birthday [ 
] inviting the visitors to a fishing meet in southern New York state to use a hammer on a sample of his material. It never left a mark. Also, the rod was bought from a small fly shop in Bristol, CT, which was the only place we’d ever heard of that actually stocked them. Other than that shop, I think you had to find the builder and buy directly from him. He did advertise in Fly Fisherman for a while. Does any of this confirm his identity? Thanks for the help.
writes: Can anyone provide me with information regarding boron rods. Specifically, I recently purchased an used 8′ 5 Wt. rod that appears to be made of boron (I can’t make out the manufacturer). On test casting, it seemed to perform approx. like a similar IM6 rod but it’s too cold up here and my line’s too stiff to be certain. I’m thinking of giving it to my 12 year old son for Easter. Is this sensible or would the IM6 be a better choice? This will be his first rod although he’s fooled around with mine a bit last year. Any info. on boron rods in general or this rod in particular would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
The short answer is if it works, use it, regardless of the material it is constructed of. Boron rods came and went in the 80’s. 100% Boron rods were very powerful and light but very brittle. I believe it was Rodon who made some boron rods by fusing the boron to a central wire. These were solid rods, not hollow and were really thin. They also rated them for 4 ro 5 different lines, all on the same rod. 100% Boron rods broke very easily if you bumped them against something. A problem with too high of a modulus in relation to tensile strength. After the original problems with boron, companies began using boron/graphite mixed rods and those worked well, but were heavy. They used the boron for the power and the graphite for the strength, and some fine rods were made from that combo. Orvis had some of their boron/graphite rods win Kudo awards from Rod & Reel in 1987-88?. When high modulus graphite rods became available they took over that market niche as they had almost as much power and were much lighter and easier to cast all day long. Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again. So what if they eat other fish? If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).
The rod maker you are refering to is Don Phillips formerly from Connecticut now residing in Florida. Also formerly my father-in-law. I own and have fished these rods for many years. They certainly have some unique features. They are very fast because of their small diameter; due to the solid construction. I don’t beleive he has built any in years unless he stsrted up again after his retirement. Happy fishin’ Byard
i have an 8 weight 9 ft boron that i would not give up for anything. i broke the tip on a ceiling fan of its mate a10 weight and fenwick would not fix it .it seems after enquirythat their workers were getting the tiny boron splinters underneath their nails so Fenwick quit making them if you come across any borons please let me know -in my book rthey are better than graphite and will manhandle any fish –used on bonefish-that should tell the story Netscape Navigator 1.1N (Macintosh) IMPORTANT! Before going any further, please read and accept the terms in the file LICENSE. Release notes for this version of Netscape Navigator are available online. After starting the program, select "Release Notes" from the "Help" menu. This will take you to the URL http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/1.1/relnotes/mac-1.1.html which lists new features and known problems of this release. To submit bugs or other feedback, use the "How To Give Feedback" option, also on the "Help" menu, which will take you to the URL http://home.netscape.com/home/how-to-give-feedback.html If for some reason you cannot submit feedback
Can anyone provide me with information regarding boron rods. Specifically, I recently purchased an used 8′ 5 Wt. rod that appears to be made of boron (I can’t make out the manufacturer). On test casting, it seemed to perform approx. like a similar IM6 rod but it’s too cold up here and my line’s too stiff to be certain. I’m thinking of giving it to my 12 year old son for Easter. Is this sensible or would the IM6 be a better choice? This will be his first rod although he’s fooled around with mine a bit last year. Any info. on boron rods in general or this rod in particular would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
: Can anyone provide me with information regarding boron rods. : Specifically, I recently purchased an used 8′ 5 Wt. rod that appears : to be made of boron (I can’t make out the manufacturer). On test : casting, it seemed to perform approx. like a similar IM6 rod but it’s : too cold up here and my line’s too stiff to be certain. I’m thinking : of giving it to my 12 year old son for Easter. Is this sensible or : would the IM6 be a better choice? This will be his first rod although : he’s fooled around with mine a bit last year. Any info. on boron rods : in general or this rod in particular would be appreciated. Thanks in : advance. In the late 70’s, when graphite was relatively new, there was a lot of experimentation with boron, kevlar, etc. All of these were used in conjunction with graphite and/or fibreglass, with the objective of providing stiffer, more sensitive rods. I have seen a few casting "worm rods" that used boron, and once had a "mooching" rod that was kevlar-reinforced, but I have never come across a fly rod made from these materials. There is still a bit of kevlar in use, but I haven’t seen anyone advertizing boron for about 15 years. As a first rod, this one probably won’t take you too far wrong. The kid will get another rod soon enough (don’t we all?) <g – 3798 Woodland Drive voice: (604) 368-9315 Trail, BC data: (604) 368-9341
Can anyone provide me with information regarding boron rods. Specifically, I recently purchased an used 8′ 5 Wt. rod that appears to be made of boron (I can’t make out the manufacturer). On test casting, it seemed to perform approx. like a similar IM6 rod but it’s too cold up here and my line’s too stiff to be certain. I’m thinking of giving it to my 12 year old son for Easter. Is this sensible or would the IM6 be a better choice? This will be his first rod although he’s fooled around with mine a bit last year. Any info. on boron rods in general or this rod in particular would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Fenwick and Browning both had Boron rods. For some reason they never really made it. I would try to have a line on it that will load it up nicely at a short distance of about 30 feet. Maybe a #6 line would help him feel the rod load better at first. If it casts good and isn’t to expensive, it might be a good starter rod. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop
The rod maker you are refering to is Don Phillips formerly from Connecticut now residing in Florida. Also formerly my father-in-law. I own and have fished these rods for many years. They certainly have some unique features. They are very fast because of their small diameter; due to the solid construction. I don’t beleive he has built any in years unless he stsrted up again after his retirement. Happy fishin’ Byard
Don was one, there also was Ted x? of Rodon Rod Co. who mixed the boron with graphite….using the two materials in different directions through- out the entire length of the rod. sd
: Can anyone provide me with information regarding boron rods.
Rodon Rod Co. used to produce boron-graphite rods…the material was very difficult to produce the taper with the rod tip control of the newer graphite strains. The material itself does have unique properties which allowed it to really throw line.. Economics (the bottom line in sales) I THINK!!??? was the demise…..? sd
I have seen a few casting "worm rods" that used boron, and once had a "mooching" rod that was kevlar-reinforced, but I have never come across a fly rod made from these materials.
I’ve had one for 20 years or so, 8 foot for 4 weight. It was made by a man in Connecticut who was fairly well known at the time. Unfortunately, he did not sign his rods, and I’ve forgotten his name long since. Back then, I liked it better than any of the graphite rods I’d tried. It still qualifies as a fast rod and handles anything up to a 6-weight line gracefully. However, by today’s standards it is probably a little insensitive in the tip. Doesn’t stop me from using it regularly. Of course, now that technology has brought us really good graphite rods with a wide range of actions, I’ve gotten more interested in bamboo.