Planning a family trip with 2 kids (aged 5 & 7) and my wife during early December. We plan to start off from Adelaide and fly back from Melbourne. Planning to hire a car and stay in the local B&Bs. Looking for suggestions, ideas or itinerary and advices.
Planning a family trip with 2 kids (aged 5 & 7) and my wife during early December. We plan to start off from Adelaide and fly back from Melbourne. Planning to hire a car and stay in the local B&Bs. Looking for suggestions, ideas or itinerary and advices.
Don’t miss the Great Ocean Road. http://www.greatoceanroad.org/ My kids love the Adventure Playground in Warrnambool. Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia Visiting Australia FAQ http://www.custard.net.au/australia/
Planning a family trip with 2 kids (aged 5 & 7) and my wife during early December. We plan to start off from Adelaide and fly back from Melbourne. Planning to hire a car and stay in the local B&Bs. Looking for suggestions, ideas or itinerary and advices.
That’s plenty of time. As Daniel mentioned, don’t miss the Great Ocean Road. You should also perhaps start by taking a run through the Flinders Ranges, perhaps as far up as Wilpena Pound. A lot of people bag on Port Augusta but I quite like the place and there are some things that would be of interest to the kiddies – the Wadlata centre is pretty good (although the souvis are pretty pricey and poor value) and the Arid Lands Botanic Centre (hope I have that name right) is worth a squint if you’re into that sort of thing. Spencer Gulf has some great sailing and fishing (check what’s in season, I’ve not been in December, yet). The French Hot Bread place on Commercial St. is the best in the country. From there, I would head back down and across, taking the G.O.R.; then go up into the goldfields (Ballarat, Bendigo) which have theme areas and rebuilt "old time" streets, etc. which the kids should enjoy. Finally, keep a few days for each city. I’m not normally a city person, but Adelaide does have some charms which take some time to grow on you (once you get used to all the churches). Take a tram to Glenelg and spend some time on the beach (hopefully all that construction is finished by now) and be sure to take in the central market just off King William Square (at the other end of the tram). With any luck (does anyone know? I’m about a year out of date) the Don Bradman display will still be on in one of the buildings (library?) on North Tce. As for Melbourne, I haven’t spent enough time there yet to be knowledgeable about what’s the best use of time/best interest to kids but there will be lots. It’s quite a charming city. I’ll leave that to the natives. HTH
Hi if you go to see the litle penguins at Phillip Island try to get a night at AMAZING THINGS for the kids it is not spectacular but like i said it is good for the kids. Walter from Belgium — Swagmanneke( walter caremans) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Planning a family trip with 2 kids (aged 5 & 7) and my wife during early December. We plan to start off from Adelaide and fly back from Melbourne. Planning to hire a car and stay in the local B&Bs. Looking for suggestions, ideas or itinerary and advices.
in message As for Melbourne, I haven’t spent enough time there yet to be knowledgeable about what’s the best use of time/best interest to kids but there will be lots. It’s quite a charming city. I’ll leave that to the natives.
Depends what they like. Off the top of my head… – tram rides (especially if you don’t have trams in your part of the world) – museum and Scienceworks http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/ – Puffing Billy steam train http://www.puffingbilly.com.au/ – penguins at Phillip Island http://www.penguins.org.au/ – Healesville sanctuary (native animals) and Melbourne Zoo http://www.zoo.org.au/ and plenty of parks and gardens to explore. Try browsing around http://melbourne.citysearch.com.au/ Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia Visiting Australia FAQ http://www.custard.net.au/australia/
Take your time on the Great Ocean Road. It is a great view but you need time to enjoy it, Don’t miss the twelve Apostles. If you have time, check out Phillips Island and the penguin parade. Phillips Island is on the opposite side of Melbourne from Adelaide. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Planning a family trip with 2 kids (aged 5 & 7) and my wife during early December. We plan to start off from Adelaide and fly back from Melbourne. Planning to hire a car and stay in the local B&Bs. Looking for suggestions, ideas or itinerary and advices. That’s plenty of time. As Daniel mentioned, don’t miss the Great Ocean Road. You should also perhaps start by taking a run through the Flinders Ranges, perhaps as far up as Wilpena Pound. A lot of people bag on Port Augusta but I quite like the place and there are some things that would be of interest to the kiddies – the Wadlata centre is pretty good (although the souvis are pretty pricey and poor value) and the Arid Lands Botanic Centre (hope I have that name right) is worth a squint if you’re into that sort of thing. Spencer Gulf has some great sailing and fishing (check what’s in season, I’ve not been in December, yet). The French Hot Bread place on Commercial St. is the best in the country. From there, I would head back down and across, taking the G.O.R.; then go up into the goldfields (Ballarat, Bendigo) which have theme areas and rebuilt "old time" streets, etc. which the kids should enjoy. Finally, keep a few days for each city. I’m not normally a city person, but Adelaide does have some charms which take some time to grow on you (once you get used to all the churches). Take a tram to Glenelg and spend some time on the beach (hopefully all that construction is finished by now) and be sure to take in the central market just off King William Square (at the other end of the tram). With any luck (does anyone know? I’m about a year out of date) the Don Bradman display will still be on in one of the buildings (library?) on North Tce. As for Melbourne, I haven’t spent enough time there yet to be knowledgeable about what’s the best use of time/best interest to kids but there will be lots. It’s quite a charming city. I’ll leave that to the natives. HTH
No need to apologize, although it is appreciated. If some one had insulted one of my friends I would also rush to his defense. I was a bit surprised at the hornets nest my posts opened but I also knew there were abler minds than mine out there that would get things sorted out. My main regret is that the misunderstanding took attention away from the thrust of the original thread. I tried reading Adams last night at work but it was just too sad. I hope I can regain the sense of delight reading his stuff has always given me. Thanks, G.Cleveland p.s. I dont know why my email address bounced Warrens message back. always worked before. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I fear you are comparing the headers from two of Mr.Cleveland
I am spending the first week of July in the Brooks Camp within Katmai National Park and wanted some fishing advice. Can anyone tell me some good areas to fish. I hear the fishing is great during that time of year but this is my first trip to the park. I wondered if anyone had any specific advice for areas to fish and hike. I have looked at the various websites and they don’t get very specific. Will there be mostly Red Salmon that time of year? Kings? Are there good Steelhead or Dolly runs? Any information you would be able to share would be greatly appreciated. Also, is there any way to float out of the Park back to King Salmon? Thanks, Rob
Hi Rob, We had group trips for ~20 years out of our shop lead by my good friend Joe Shirshac. The Brooks river is small (under ~2miles?) and runs between two large lakes. In July there will be lots of Sockeye Salmon and lots of Brown Bears. There is a famous falls there where they observe the bears fishing for the salmon. The Sockeyes are very fresh and fight like crazy. We used a 10′ type 3 sinktip on a #7 or 8 outfit. A 7 1/2′ 0x to 2x leader and small sparse Sockeye flies. They are so thick at times, you will snag them if you strip the fly at all. There are also nice Rainbow trout in the Brooks. You can catch them on green Sculpin imitations, leeches, wooly bugger and nymphs. Some dries work too. The best fishing for the Sockeye is way below the falls down by the mouth going into the lake. The best Rainbow fishing is the stretch above the falls. If you email Joe, he will probably give you some real good info. When he started going there over 20 years ago, they camped out for about a month in the camp ground that is near the Brooks Lodge. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop http://www.kiene.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am spending the first week of July in the Brooks Camp within Katmai National Park and wanted some fishing advice. Can anyone tell me some good areas to fish. I hear the fishing is great during that time of year but this is my first trip to the park. I wondered if anyone had any specific advice for areas to fish and hike. I have looked at the various websites and they don’t get very specific. Will there be mostly Red Salmon that time of year? Kings? Are there good Steelhead or Dolly runs? Any information you would be able to share would be greatly appreciated. Also, is there any way to float out of the Park back to King Salmon? Thanks, Rob
I was just wondering how good flurocarbon tippet is. I just can’t decide if I want to risk dropping the money and it turns out like crap. I usually carry at least 5 spools of tippet material and it would be a costly venture, especially when there are so many more tying materials that I want (does it ever stop?!?!). I have heard how it goes bad in sunlight. Any other drawbacks? What are the benefits? This is not a troll, just want some info. Thanks for the input (should I receive any), Warren
Warren writes:
(brevity snip) <<I have heard how it goes bad in sunlight. Any other drawbacks? What are the benefits? This is not a troll, just want some info. I don’t think it is as prone to UV (sunlight) damage as mono is. The only drawback (very slight) is that it doesn’t float. I usually gink mine up to within five inches of the dry fly. Benefits: It’s refractive index is very close to that of water, making it almost invisible to the fish. I have found that I can drop down one size (i.e. 6x to 5x or even 4x) with the same results. It is stiffer than mono and less prone to twisting. Go to www.dejanews.com and look up "flurocarbon tippet". There was an exhaustive thread on it not too long ago. Dave LaCourse
It works great for me! I use it everywhere. Perfect for salt or fresh. Forrest – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was just wondering how good flurocarbon tippet is. I just can’t decide if I want to risk dropping the money and it turns out like crap. I usually carry at least 5 spools of tippet material and it would be a costly venture, especially when there are so many more tying materials that I want (does it ever stop?!?!). I have heard how it goes bad in sunlight. Any other drawbacks? What are the benefits? This is not a troll, just want some info. Thanks for the input (should I receive any), Warren
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I was told that flurocarbon is more abrasion resistant. If that’s the case I would definetly look into it. Can’t say that I know though. Is it? Have a good one, Jeff Jowers Revelation 3:20 Many times I’ve seen why they call it fishing, not catching.
I bought some Orvis Mirage knotted leaders (9′, 12lb) last year out of their sale flyer. I tried them one day while fishing for stripers with a friend. I was catching many more fish than he. I gave him one of the leaders (it was his boat) and he started getting as many fish as I. Then the past few times I was fishing the swift I was using 8x maxima ultra green tippet and the fish were avoiding my flies while the guy down stream with the same fly was catching fish on 5X flurocarbon. I think it does make a difference. The stuff really does disappear in water so it can’t hurt. sf
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was just wondering how good flurocarbon tippet is. I just can’t decide if I want to risk dropping the money and it turns out like crap. I usually carry at least 5 spools of tippet material and it would be a costly venture, especially when there are so many more tying materials that I want (does it ever stop?!?!). I have heard how it goes bad in sunlight. Any other drawbacks? What are the benefits? This is not a troll, just want some info. Thanks for the input (should I receive any), Warren
I bought some Orvis Mirage knotted leaders (9′, 12lb) last year out of their sale flyer. I tried them one day while fishing for stripers with a friend. I was catching many more fish than he. I gave him one of the leaders (it was his boat) and he started getting as many fish as I.
Yup – I remember that. I was using dark Maxima as usual, but on that day the fish were thumbing their beaks at me. The Mirage did seem to turn the tide, so to speak… And it’s always a good thing to give the Captain a boost if his luck is off: it’s usually a long walk back to shore ;^) /daytripper (ps to sf: I’ll be on the Cape of Cod all next week, we’ll do the ‘Mack again when I get back)
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I bought some Orvis Mirage knotted leaders (9′, 12lb) last year out of their sale flyer. I tried them one day while fishing for stripers with a friend. I was catching many more fish than he. I gave him one of the leaders (it was his boat) and he started getting as many fish as I. Then the past few times I was fishing the swift I was using 8x maxima ultra green tippet and the fish were avoiding my flies while the guy down stream with the same fly was catching fish on 5X flurocarbon. I think it does make a difference. The stuff really does disappear in water so it can’t hurt. sf I was just wondering how good flurocarbon tippet is. I just can’t decide if I want to risk dropping the money and it turns out like crap. I usually carry at least 5 spools of tippet material and it would be a costly venture, especially when there are so many more tying materials that I want (does it ever stop?!?!). I have heard how it goes bad in sunlight. Any other drawbacks? What are the benefits? This is not a troll, just want some info. Thanks for the input (should I receive any), Warren
determines its invisibility first and then color. I’m sure I will be reading soon about tippet material that is .0002 in diameter which has a breaking strength of 125 pounds. Great sport. — Mr. G. ‘all’s fair with fur or feather’ http://www.gink.com http://www.rodbuilding.com http://www.xink.com 509-243-4100 or 5500
I will be on Cozumel in March and would be interested in any advice or comments on fishing for bonefish there or on the Yucatan coast. Thank you.
I will be on Cozumel in March and would be interested in any advice or comments on fishing for bonefish there or on the Yucatan coast. Thank you.
You can go bonefishing on Cozumel. The cost is $300 for two anglers. Capt Gene Kelly
I will be on Cozumel in March and would be interested in any advice or comments on fishing for bonefish there or on the Yucatan coast. Thank you.
Hi All, There are at least a half dozen bonefish guides on Cozumel. I would get a guide for a half day for about $200 in the AM. Take a #7, 8 or 9 weight multi-piece outfit with a floating line. Have a hat, light colored Polarized glasses and sun screen. Bill Kiene (capitalist pig) Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 1-800-4000FLY (toll free in US) www.kiene.com
I will be on Cozumel in March and would be interested in any advice or comments on fishing for bonefish there or on the Yucatan coast. Thank you.
Be prepared for a real long boat ride. Make sure the boat has life preservers. Don’t trust the signs in hotels that say "purified water". Take $50 in one dollar bills to pay for cabs. The drivers won’t make change.
Why not try the Beartooths or the Absoraokas, northeast of Yellowstone. The Beartooth plateau is great for backpacking and fishing. Penny — Specialty Outdoor Sewing Professional Sewing for the Outdoor Enthusiast Spokane, Washington Ask about my line of Cataraft accessories! web page coming soon…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi! My hubby and I are going backpacking in Wyoming is a few weeks. He loves to fly fish and love to hike. We have done the usual tourist routes in the Tetons, Yellowstone and Winds. I would love some suggestions for other areas we could visit. Any input would really be appreciated. Thanks! 
Mary
Check out the Snowy Range southwest of Laramie. Your hubby can fly fish and hike to his heart’s content and won’t have to fight crowds – tourists either go on to Yellowstone and the Tetons to the north or Colorado to the south. The scenery is beautiful and different from any other mountain range I’ve been in. Geez, I hate telling more people about this place – maybe you should check out the Big Horns in north central Wyoming.
: Hi! : My hubby and I are going backpacking in Wyoming is a few weeks. He loves : to fly fish and love to hike. We have done the usual tourist routes in : the Tetons, Yellowstone and Winds. I would love some suggestions for : other areas we could visit. Any input would really be appreciated. : Thanks! : Mary
Hi! My hubby and I are going backpacking in Wyoming is a few weeks. He loves to fly fish and love to hike. We have done the usual tourist routes in the Tetons, Yellowstone and Winds. I would love some suggestions for other areas we could visit. Any input would really be appreciated. Thanks! Mary
Any fly as long as it’s big and bright. Don’t tie a complicated fly because pike beat up a fly real quick. I like to use 10X long streamer flies and cover the tube body or wrapped tinsel body with clear epoxy glue otherwise the pike’s teeth get caught in the body thereby preventing the hook point from penetrating. I like easy economical patterns like Mickey Finns, Red and White, Tri-color. Add flashabou if you want.
Dave Wilson wrote I’ve been volentered (sp?) to tye a bunch of pike flys for a friend, the only trouble is, What the heck patterns do I tye? If anyone has had experience here please respond.<< Have been doing a fair amount of fly fishing for Northern Pike for about 40 years now. Most important things I’ve learned are that pike will quickly tear up your flies (so doing it cheap is a big consideration) and that large undulating patterns work best. Trying to tie lots of flies cheaply I’ve found that using hooks in the 2/0 to 5/0 sizes with long shanks are the best starting point. I like the Eagle Claw Lazer Shark hooks made for bass fishermen rigging rubber worms the most cost effective. They have a shank as long as very long shank streamer hooks, come out of the package as sharp as you can get a hook and are very cost effective. The sproat is just about perfect. If you go down to your local craft store you’ll find 3" to 4" chicken feathers and marabou feathers sold in bulk for a really low price. I buy them in red and white. I wrap the whole hook shank from the start of the bend back to the hook eye in a single layer of thread wrapped quickly, then I tie in one feather each (approximately the same size) by wrapping over the exposed quill and back 1/2" to 3/4", this double wrap ending just at the hook eye. You can tie in a cone shaped nose if you like, but it’s not needed. Secure with a whip finish and you’ve got a simple, cheap yet highly effective streamer for toothy critters. Fair winds and following seas, Pat in Pawtucket RI
I’ve been volentered (sp?) to tye a bunch of pike flys for a friend, the only trouble is, What the heck patterns do I tye? If anyone has had experience here please respond. Thanks in advance Dave Wilson
Big 2/0 red/yellow or white marabou or bunny streamers. Big deer hair or caribou hair mouse patterns with weed guards for top water fishing. I would put 6 to 12 inches of wire leader on them. I am not an expert on the subject but that’s what I have seen. Dan Blanton has a trip to Canada for pike and you might look for his web site for some answers, too. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY
I’ve been volentered (sp?) to tye a bunch of pike flys for a friend, the only trouble is, What the heck patterns do I tye? If anyone has had experience here please respond. Thanks in advance Dave Wilson
I am planning to fish Pyrmid Lake in Nevada during mid April. I would appreciate any info regarding current conditions and fly patterns/sizes. Thanks in advance. Chuck Welby
I am planning to fish Pyrmid Lake in Nevada during mid April. I would appreciate any info regarding current conditions and fly patterns/sizes. Thanks in advance. Chuck Welby
I was there last weekend. I missed both day’s early morning fishing and understand that is was good before the sun hit the water. The weather was very clear and sunny, temps from mid thirties in early morning to fifties. Most people are fishing near the nets in Sutcliff and other accesses in the middle west side. Visibility was low in the southern end but better around the nets – 3 feet or so. It should be clearing unless it is windy. Most use wooly buggers or streamer flies, retrieved with fast strips on a sinking line. Have some bright and some dark ones. Those in the know bring ladders modified with a cross piece at the feet to limit the settling, or milk crates to stand on. Have a float of some kind tethered to it so you can get it if it tips over. Float tubes are OK but BEWARE OF THE WIND. It can come up fast and you could end up the next day frozen on the desolate opposite shore. For a scenic treat and hot springs get up to the Needles area at the northwest shore. Warning – me be yahoos at the geyser but if so go way to the right to the smaller hot spring. Please be gentle if you happen to hook Lucy the Lahontan Leviathan. If you hook bottom and she starts shaking her head, be patient. Mark Vinsel Visit my gallery: http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.HTML (a pyramid lake painting on display)
The annual N. California fly fishing conclave is coming up at the end of September. Three days of tying speakers and displays. Gary LaFontaine is the headline speaker, along with Lani Waller, Mel Krieger and lots of others. Its held at the N. Lake Tahoe convention center in Kings Beach on the North shore of Lake Tahoe. There is also good fishing in the area at this time of year. The event is sponsored by the Northern California Council, Federation of Fly Fishers. Contact Dave Duffy, (209)-824-2346 for details.
(DaveF17965) writes:
Is there any similar event held in Southern California?
I’d like to learn how to fly fish, and I’m thinking about attending the LL Bean Fly Fishing School in Freeport. Does anyone have any good or bad comments about this school? Does anyone know of any other fly fishing schools in the Northeast? — Michael D’Alessandro, M.D., Deptartment of Radiology, The Children’s Hospital, Boston
I highly recommend the LL Bean Fly Fishing School. My husband Scott and I attended the Introductory school in Freeport last April. The student/instructor ratio is good; there were about 8 instructors and maybe 35 students. The sessions were a nice mix of classroom time and time on the water. They pack a lot of information in 3 days and everything ran like clockwork; they really have their act together. In addition to the casting lessons there were sessions on fly tying, knots, bugs, reading the water, and safety. Every instructor was very enthusiastic about the sport and that really came through in the sessions. In addition to learning a lot, being there was just a lot of fun. The course runs about $400, and was well worth the cost. I’m not sure about the Intermediate school at a fishing camp in Grand Lake Stream, now up to $1200… Good Luck, -Cathy p.s Good coffee there too!