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WHY FISHING IS BETTER THAN SEX A big, juicy worm always gets a fish excited. You don’t have to eat a fish while it’s still flopping around. You can take a leak in the bush anytime you want. Stroking your rod won’t piss off a trout. Sipping a beer and scratching your balls is all the foreplay expected of you. Anything you stick in a fish’s face, it eats. A fish will never gag, choke, or come up for air. A red snapper won’t cry if you call it a flounder. You wear rubbers on your feet, not on your dick. If you want a bigger pole, you can have a bigger pole. A smart fish knows when to keep it’s mouth shut. It’s okay to cook a fish to make it taste good. Fish bite for a guy of 60; same as they do for a guy of 20. You’re never called a jerk when you throw back an ugly fish. Fish are real happy when you pick up your gear and go home.

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WHY FISHING IS BETTER THAN SEX Anything you stick in a fish’s face, it eats.

Anyone who could say this has clearly never been fly fishing for trout hugs, elle — "The antidote to hatred in the heart, the source of violence, is tolerance." -The Dalai Lama

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WHY FISHING IS BETTER THAN SEX A big, juicy worm always gets a fish excited. You don’t have to eat a fish while it’s still flopping around. You can take a leak in the bush anytime you want. Stroking your rod won’t piss off a trout. Sipping a beer and scratching your balls is all the foreplay expected of you. Anything you stick in a fish’s face, it eats. A fish will never gag, choke, or come up for air. A red snapper won’t cry if you call it a flounder. You wear rubbers on your feet, not on your dick. If you want a bigger pole, you can have a bigger pole. A smart fish knows when to keep it’s mouth shut. It’s okay to cook a fish to make it taste good. Fish bite for a guy of 60; same as they do for a guy of 20. You’re never called a jerk when you throw back an ugly fish. Fish are real happy when you pick up your gear and go home.

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WHY FISHING IS BETTER THAN SEX Anything you stick in a fish’s face, it eats.

Anyone who could say this has clearly never been fly fishing for trout hugs, elle — "The antidote to hatred in the heart, the source of violence, is tolerance." -The Dalai Lama

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I’m probably breaking some copywright law, but from the Lewiston ID Tribune but.. George Eugene (Billis) Gehrke, an avid fly fisherman, inventor and writer, passed away Sunday Dec. 8, 2002, at his Asotin home. He was 68. He was born July 28, 1934, in Toledo, Ohio. Graduating from Anthony Wayne High School in 1954, he was the first in his class to go directly into the Air Force Cadet Program. After his tour with the Air Force, he married the love of his life, Gladys Gray, Sept. 6, 1958, in Toledo. He often told others how lucky he was to have her in his life and how much he loved her. George owned a fly fishing company and manufactured its products since 1973. He is survived by his wife, Gladys, at the Asotin home; three sons, Robert of Panama City, Fla., Stuart of Trout Creek, Colo., and Gregory of Asotin; three daughters, Rosemary Tafoya of Asotin, Tracy Castaneda of Houston and Georgia Gehrke of Kapaa, Hawaii. He is also survived by a sister, Karol Ann of Archie, Mo.; brothers, Ernest Gehrke and John Billis of Ohio; uncle C.M. Kurczak of Baton Rouge, La.; several nieces and nephews; 11 grandchildren; and many, many friends. A memorial service will be held at 1 p.m. Thursday at the family home at Asotin. Vassar-Rawls Funeral Home of Lewiston is in charge of arrangements.

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Thanks Wayne, for passing that along. Rest in Peace, George. bruce h

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What do you guys think of the Orvis Clearwater floating line? I just bought a 6 WF and I’ll tell you, I like it a lot, but since my only other line I ever used was a $15 Scientific Angler line I started out with from KMart.

Once any initial spools coils have straightened out, ALL new lines are going to cast nicely, compared with old ones. That’s why some of us spend some time and effort in trying to keep our old lines feeling like new lines! Anyways, I’ll tell you, it makes a huge difference not having any strike indicator or split shot on the leader when casting! I could cast the dry fly about 30-40 feet with ease and pretty accurately (I did have to false cast twice each cast though). The Orvis line just shot out, but when I have split shot on there and some strike indicator putty when I fish nymphs I’m lucky to get out 10 feet without splashing all over the place.

ANYTHING on the leader that affects the balance of the set up; the turnover; the air resistance (such as heavy flies; fat, air-resistant flies; multiple flies; very long leaders; strike indicators, etc., etc.) will have an adverse effect on the cast. The better the caster you become, the better you will cope with these impediments. Another question: I;m a little tired of seeing my Orvis Strike Putty (green stuff) not staying afloat in running water. For those of you that use indicators, which type/brand do you recommend? Thanks

If you’re using really heavy flies, or attached split shot, strike putty or a bit of proofed fluff just ain’t going to be buoyant enough to stay up. You will have to go to a more buoyant indicator. There are some purpose made foam indicators on the market. A tip taught me by Hans van Klinken (ace Dutch FFer) is to use the self-adhesive polyethylene foam sheet used for lining fly boxes. He cuts this into little narrow rectangles of varying sizes. These are scored, part through, down the centre line of the rectangle wit a sharp blade. When you want to attach the indicator, just peel off the backing paper and fold over wherever you want it on the leader. Works very well and cheap too! Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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Recently stocked fish often behave differently to wild fish. It takes time for them to recognise fly hatches as food for instance.  If you want to catch such fish a largish attractor fly is usually better.  After they have "settled" in, you can then go back to "matching the hatch".

I agree, except I look at it sort of opposite – seems to me it takes awhile for stocked fish to recognize half of what they go for is NOT food.  My strike indicator, for instance. Regards, Jeff

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Recently stocked fish often behave differently to wild fish. It takes time for them to recognise fly hatches as food for instance.  If you want to catch such fish a largish attractor fly is usually better.  After they have "settled" in, you can then go back to "matching the hatch". Try using a weighted nymph instead of the split shot, and use a longer piece of thin tippet to make sure it sinks well. You might try using a piece of polypropylene yarn.   One thing you can do is to mark the end of your line with a bright orange marker or similar, and watch this. It works as well as an indicator, and does not affect your casting. TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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What do you guys think of the Orvis Clearwater floating line? I just bought a 6 WF and I’ll tell you, I like it a lot, but since my only other line I ever used was a $15 Scientific Angler line I started out with from KMart. I’ve been nymphing exclusively since starting flyfishing last September. Today, for the first time, I tried a dry fly (BWO). There was a BWO hatch on my local stream that had recently been stocked, but not a single rise anywhere. Anyways, I’ll tell you, it makes a huge difference not having any strike indicator or split shot on the leader when casting! I could cast the dry fly about 30-40 feet with ease and pretty accurately (I did have to false cast twice each cast though). The Orvis line just shot out, but when I have split shot on there and some strike indicator putty when I fish nymphs I’m lucky to get out 10 feet without splashing all over the place. Another question: I;m a little tired of seeing my Orvis Strike Putty (green stuff) not staying afloat in running water. For those of you that use indicators, which type/brand do you recommend? Thanks

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Hi, I’m a relative new comer to both fly fishing and Florida.  Having said that, I’ve fished the no motor zone at Cape Canaveral twice in the last few days and only caught a few small spotted sea trout. Anyone having any better luck?  Is it me, the screwy weather or a combination? Mind you, I’m not really complaining.  You know what they say about a bad day fishing…. David

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See Action Spotter in January Florida Sportsman.  Somebody’s been catching fish on flyrod there recently.   Good Luck.

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Hi, I’m a relative new comer to both fly fishing and Florida.  Having said that, I’ve fished the no motor zone at Cape Canaveral twice in the last few days and only caught a few small spotted sea trout. Anyone having any better luck?  Is it me, the screwy weather or a combination? Mind you, I’m not really complaining.  You know what they say about a bad day fishing…. David

   Been off the water a bit but the same goes for fresh water. I got out this last week a couple of hrs. Weather was cool so the gators has took to the mud, all I caught were about a dozen bity bream and 1 decent war mouth. Seems it’s kinda off on the east central but I understand the gulf is hot.                                                              John Popp                                                           in Sanford Fl.

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Well, I can only tell you of my experiences over on the west coast, but the fish (Snook, Redfish & Trout) are not in their usual Fall/Winter haunts. Since it is not spring and the Gulf waters here are warmer than they should be, the fish are still on the flats, hungry as ever, but they seem scattered as opposed to the same weather/water conditions in the late spring/summer. I’ve had to cover a lot of water to find them. Good Luck — Tight Lines.

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<< An Orvis bobber. Peter

Indicator’ pretty good Pete. Pete, wait until George sees my new Orvis Zebra line.  He’ll plop that scrawny  ass of his down on a rock and probably will never get up!  <G  I have decided that I *will* show up in full Orvis mufi.  I am having trouble trying to rent an Orvis Jeep, however. Dave PS:  Gladys, get the man a few drams of the old Grouse — he looks pale behind the gills!

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Pete, wait until George sees my new Orvis Zebra line.  He’ll plop that scrawny  ass of his down on a rock and probably will never get up!  <G  I have decided that I *will* show up in full Orvis mufi.  I am having trouble trying to rent an Orvis Jeep, however.

I don’t think they make Orvis Jeeps anymore, but one of their catalogs had some D90’s in it so I should be in good shape<g. — Charlie…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – << An Orvis bobber. Peter Indicator’ pretty good Pete. Pete, wait until George sees my new Orvis Zebra line.  He’ll plop that scrawny  ass of his down on a rock and probably will never get up!  <G  I have decided that I *will* show up in full Orvis mufi.  I am having trouble trying to rent an Orvis Jeep, however. Dave PS:  Gladys, get the man a few drams of the old Grouse — he looks pale behind the gills!

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Hi, The second week in July we will be boating the Shuswap lake in British Columbia. Can anyone help with  fishing experiences, equipment, flies etc. Thanks in advance.

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Hi, The second week in July we will be boating the Shuswap lake in British Columbia. Can anyone help with  fishing experiences, equipment, flies etc. Thanks in advance.

Shuswap is a very large natural lake not particularly noted for its flyfishing. I’ve never fished Shuswap but can tell you from local scuttlebutt it has a population of nice sized rainbows usually taken by trolling salmon plugs. You will need special ‘tags’ to kept fish Some fish are caught at the mouth of the Adams River (which has decent fishing for resident rainbows), Steamboat Bay and at Little River using flies at various times of the year. Best fishing usually coincides with the migration of sockeye salmon fry (April and May) from the redds to the lake and of smolts from the Lake out into the South Thompson River (June). You will likely be able to pick up some fish but do not expect anything spectacular. Try the mouths of the creeks and even the good size creeks themselves for ‘pan size’ fish. Nearby White Lake is well known for it’s excellent fishery for large Kamloops Rainbows and there are other small lakes in the area. Ralph H replace "spamsucks" with direct for email reply.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – .ca says: Hi, The second week in July we will be boating the Shuswap lake in British Columbia. Can anyone help with  fishing experiences, equipment, flies etc. Thanks in advance. Shuswap is a very large natural lake not particularly noted for its flyfish ing. I’ve never fished Shuswap but can tell you from local scuttlebutt it has a population of nice sized rainbows usually taken by trolling salmon plugs.

Trolling the ‘Apex’  salmon plug in black/silver, in about 15 feet of water   is popular and productive

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I am curious if Boeing Jets like those of 747s can do a landing or take-off using auto-pilot? How about military jets?  Are they able to do auto landing and take-offs? Thank you.

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    I am curious if Boeing Jets like those of 747s can do a landing or     take-off using auto-pilot? Landings, yes.  The aircraft and pilots have to be specially certified, though. The takeoff may be a capability of the aircraft, but I don’t know if it is commonly used.     How about military jets?  Are they able to do auto landing and     take-offs? Landings, yes.  I know of no automatic takeoff capability. — John Weiss Seattle, WA

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    I am curious if Boeing Jets like those of 747s can do a landing or     take-off using auto-pilot? Landings, yes.  The aircraft and pilots have to be specially certified,

though. I’ve been (as a passenger) on a couple of auto landings in 757s. Fog was so thick I only saw the runway inches from touchdown. Pilots are required to do a number of those every so often (don’t remember how many in how many months). If you don’t see a youth in the right front seat and the aircraft goes bumpy on approach (power, then brakes, then more power…) odds are they are doing a practice auto landing. Pilot has to take the plane between the two outer side beacons and more or less on the center beacon at something like 7 miles, and then engage the contraption. The takeoff may be a capability of the aircraft, but I don’t know if it is commonly used.     How about military jets?  Are they able to do auto landing and     take-offs? Landings, yes.  I know of no automatic takeoff capability.

Auto take-offs make no sense… you are on the runway. You see it’s lights at least up to VR speed, after that normal instruments flight. What’s the point? IIRC, first USN bird capable of auto traps was the F-4G back in ‘Nam time. Auto throttles came before. — Jos

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I’m planning on going to Reno next week and don’t know a thing about Nevada fishing or regulations. I’m looking for a spot within two hours of Reno that has decent car camping. I like the desert. Any info would be highly appreciated. Thanks and all the Best,

I was in Reno in July and fished the Truckee River just across the California border (about forty minutes from Reno). Caught several nice rainbows and had lots of fun. There’s a shop in Reno called the Reno Angler that should be able to let you know what’s happening and where. They sell both Nevada and California licenses, so you’re looking at one-stop shopping. Spinolio

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I’m planning on going to Reno next week and don’t know a thing about Nevada fishing or regulations. I’m looking for a spot within two hours of Reno that has decent car camping. I like the desert. Any info would be highly appreciated. Thanks and all the Best, Michael Smith

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Welcome to Nevada, A lot of fishing is within two hours of Reno.  Cehck with the Reno Fly Shop (702/ 825-3474), the Gilly (702/ 358-6113) or Mark, Fore & Strike (702/ 322-9559) for the latest.  In the meantime here are a few ideas… Truckee River open year round in Nevada, trophy section form California border down to first freeway bridge. Pyramid Lake just opened.  Weather still pretty warm for shore-wading anglers (algea and salt grass).  Fish are being caught. Walker River – East and West Forks open in Nevada (California closes October 31st) Rip a lip, A Nevada Angler

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I’m planning on going to Reno next week and don’t know a thing about Nevada fishing or regulations. I’m looking for a spot within two hours of Reno that has decent car camping. I like the desert. Any info would be highly appreciated. Thanks and all the Best, Michael Smith

Call the Reno Fly Shop. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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I recieved a kit for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good book that will help me learn how to tie flies? I am a avid flyfisherman and love to learn more about fly tieing. If anyone has any good paterns please send me a few to try and I will send you one of the finished products to see if I got it right. Thanks Alot Chuck Hester

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I recieved a kit for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good book that will help me learn how to tie flies?

I have Eric Leiser’s book on fly tying and like it.  (Sorry, I can’t remember the name of the book, but it is something obvious, like "Fly Tying."  It has a blue cover with pictures of flies on it.) This book walks you through dries, wets, streamers, etc., in different chapters.  It teaches a basic fly (with some variations) in each chapter, then lists patterns for several more flies that can be tied in the same way.  I like the book, and have only found two drawbacks so far.  First, it is a bit old–1970’s, I think.  The age affects the discussion of materials.  There is little mention of synthetic furs and he says that no substitute is necessary for polar bear hair. Second, there are no color photographs (other than on the cover). They would help mostly to get a better idea of how the final product should look. One of my standards for checking how well the author knows his (her) craft is the discussion of the whip finish.  If a book says that the whip finish is too hard to do and and that you should buy a tool to do it, I put the book down and move on.  The book should teach you how to do a whip finish by hand.  Also, in general, the book should not try to turn you into a "tool junkie."  Many tools you either don’t need or can make yourself.  For example, if an author tells you that you can make a dubbing needle yourself or can buy a potter’s needle tool cheaper than a "flytyer’s dubbing needle," then I rate that book higher than one that only names the tool. All of that said, I will now admit that I am fairly new to flytying. I also took a class at a local community Adult Ed. to help me along. (I got really lucky there.  The instructor was Ray Salminen, who is an excellent tyer and has been tying flies for 60 years!) Good luck! Dave

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I recieved a kit for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good book that will help me learn how to tie flies? I am a avid flyfisherman and love to learn more about fly tieing. If anyone has any good paterns please send me a few to try and I will send you one of the finished products to see if I got it right. Thanks Alot Chuck Hester

Two decent beginner books are those written by Jack Dennis.  Although they were written for Western trout, I dont think that Eastern trout will mind.   These books have the majority of basic long honored patterns, and cute stories that go with each.  In addition, the photographs should help the beginner do well right off the bat.  I would suggest, however, that you take a class in fly tying.  Many community based programs exist, as well as classes taught at fly shops or sporting goods stores. Good luck

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I recieved a kit for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good book that will help me learn how to tie flies? I am a avid flyfisherman and love to learn more about fly tieing. If anyone has any good paterns please send me a few to try and I will send you one of the finished products to see if I got it right. Thanks Alot Chuck Hester

I have been tying for about two years. I have two fly tying books that work well for me. 1. Fly Tying Adventures in Fur, Feathers and Fun by John F. McKim.     Great illustrations and a good selection of fly patterns. 2. Tying Flies with Jack Dennis and Friends.     Uses good photographs and very good on the step-by-step process. Happy tying, John

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I have Eric Leiser’s book on fly tying and like it.  (Sorry, I can’t remember the name of the book, but it is something obvious, like "Fly Tying."  It has a blue cover with pictures of flies on it.)

The title is "The Complete Book of Fly Tying" & despite its relative vintage & lack of discussion of a lot of the new synthetics (mylar tubing was pretty avant garde at the time ) it’s a good & thorough guide to many basic & fairly advanced tying techniques. Great drawings. cheers, — Blair Sharpe Ottawa, ON, Canada

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writes: As an alternative to books, one of the better ways to learn tying techniques is to buy or rent a few video tapes.  You’ll learn a lot more watching it being done than you will from looking a couple of still photos and reading a description.

I agree. Gary Borger’s Tying Trout Flies (part of the 3M Scientific Angler series) is quite good. I’m a relatively new tier, also. I, too, have and like Leiser’s Complete Book of Fly Tying. His "The Book of Fly Patterns" isn’t bad, either. It contains tying instructions as well as lots of patterns. I don’t have Randall Kaufmann’s books, but Tying Nymphs, Tying Dry Flies, and Fly Tyer’s Nymph Manual all look like good beginners. Books. Probably my favorite so far is Gary Borger’s Designing Trout Flies. Dave Guinee

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Hello All!     Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.

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Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.

Yes, try rec. outddors fishing flytying    Tom

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Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.

yes!!! rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying Paul M. Willenberg The kool-Aid Whinno http://www.wolfenet.com/~willej    Transcend the Bullshit.    Loud Pipes Save Lives -ATB    If today were a fish I’d throw it back. -Paul Hunter    I used to drink Vodka and Espresso and then I realized the last thing the world needed was a wide awake drunk -PH    Outside of a dog a book is a man’s best friend, inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.-Nelson Algren    Never eat at a place called Ma’s (she’s lying to ya, she’s not your real Ma), Never play cards with a man named Doc, and Never, Never, for any reason, sleep with somebody that has more problems than you.-Nelson ALgren

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. Yes, try rec. outddors fishing flytying    Tom

Using the correct syntax will make it easier to find: It’s rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. Yes, try rec. outddors fishing flytying    Tom Using the correct syntax will make it easier to find: It’s rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY I couldn’t find the group you suiggested above for fly tying. Do I need to do soemthing special to subscribe? David Merkel

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. Yes, try rec. outddors fishing flytying    Tom

Try rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying instead.

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I have a CD on fly-tying, interactive and with 900 photos of what they look like and how to tie them, plus much more. It took the authors 5 yars to develop it.

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I am planning to go to Mammoth in a few weeks.  Has anyone fished the San  Joaquin recently?  How about Upper Owens, Lake Crowley, Hot Creek, Twin Lakes, etc.   Any info. on fishing conditions, water levels, etc. would be greatly appreciated.                  /                                  John Woodling                 /                                   Sacramento, CA                /                   "The lure of fishing is that it is the pursuit of that which is elusive, yet attainable……an endless series of occasions for hope"

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Got mixed reports from people who fished at Mammoth a week ago.  Some said they were skunked (fly fishermen) and some (bait fisherman?) said they caught good sized fish in Lake George or Mary. We were south of Bishop at 9000-9800′ lakes (Shadow, Ediza) and my fly fishing hubbie didn’t catch anything.  Some of the lakes were frozen and thawing fast. Mosquitos were awful (probably still are).  Your best bet is to check with Mammoth (1) fly fishing shops and (2) fly fishing groups (FFF) when you get into Mammoth.  Info on them and lots of other good stuff is in the freebie publications available at local Chamber of Commerce and Ranger’s station. : I am planning to go to Mammoth in a few weeks.  Has anyone fished the San :  Joaquin recently?  How about Upper Owens, Lake Crowley, Hot Creek, Twin : Lakes, etc.   Any info. on fishing conditions, water levels, etc. would be : greatly : appreciated. :     :             :                  /                                  John Woodling :                 /                                   Sacramento, CA :                /                   : "The lure of fishing is that it is the pursuit of that which is elusive, : yet attainable……an endless series of occasions for hope"

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