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Its been a very wet, cold spring so far, here in Wisconsin. But I finally got a chance to fish some moving water. With the river in town still running high I decided to check out some smaller water about 45 minutes from Merrill. The forecast called for rain and thunderstorms in the late afternoon so I left home about 10 am. Ended up on the little stream I have nicknamed the "Mayfly", due its very strong and dependable hatches. It too was running high but not as bad as the Prairie.  Got suited up, set up the rod and waded in. The water felt cold through my waders and checking the temp I found that it was 50deg.. There was a strong south wind which was mitigated somewhat by the surrounding streamside brush. After watching the surface for risers and seeing none I tied on a #12 Gold Ribbed H.E. nymph. The fishing was very slow. Only one very small brookie took,in what usually is a sure fire stretch of riffles and glides.  Working my way upstream I noticed a few #18 BWOs coming off but no rises. Checked the temp again and found it was up to 52deg. (Aren’t new toys fun?)Tried a #18 Adams and didn’t get a look from the trout. Being too lazy to rerig for nymphs again I tied on a #14 Royal Trude and promptly caught two fish, the biggest being 9", about average for this water. Thought I had hit paydirt but then didn’t get another fish to even splash at the fly for several hundred more yards upstream.  As I approached a deep fast run that has given up large fish for me in the past I rigged up with a green yarn indicator supporting a GRHE nymph with a Copper John nymph for a dropper. Promptly found out that casting a leader with three attachments of different densities was a major challenge. For every two or three casts that I got off successfully there was one that tangled the flies and indicator together. No fish came from the run but just upstream I noticed a few Hendrickson mayflies struggling at the surface and then taking flight. Even better I began to pick up fish. Two 9" brookies in fine color came to hand on the GRHE. The Copper John was ignored.  The first splashy rises brought a change in terminal tackle again. A #14 Hendrickson was bent on but ignored by the fish. A brown emerger was tried but no luck. And it began to rain. There were still a few flies on the water but the rises had quit. Struggled into my rain gear (i.e. an emergency rain poncho aka glorified garbage bag with a hood).  Made the decision to head downstream for the car. Cinched on a #12 Hares Ear soft hackle. A few bumps and one small brookie later found me at the head of a small pool. Went to a Royal Coachman streamer. After a few casts I noticed a couple of quiet rises behind an alder branch across the stream from me. As I was lifting the streamer from the water there was a strong swirl and the biggest fish of the trip came to my net, an 11" brookie. The rises behind the alder had stopped but a couple of pools down saw another fish feeding. Tied on the Hendrickson again and a few casts later a brook trout responded to the float. At the tail of the pool there was a pod of fish feeding on the still sporadically hatching Hendricksons. Reached into my pocket to check the water temp and….came up empty. In my contortions to get into the cheap rain poncho I had knocked my new thermometer loose and it was lying somewhere upstream amongst the rocks and trout. Oh well, there were still fish to cast to. The Hendrickson took three more brookies on downstream drifts until another, harder rain shower put the fish down again. Almost back to the car, I tied on a Partridge and Green soft hackle (with flourescent green floss for the abdomen) and immediately hooked the hottest fish of the trip, a fast, jumping 10" brown. A few yards farther down brought its twin to hand. With the rain coming even harder, thunder in the distance and a deadline in town I decided to call it a day. Other than the lost thermometer it was a most successful first day on the water. No big fish but enough action to keep me satisfied with my efforts.  And, as usual, the "Mayfly" lived up to its nickname. G.Cleveland

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Its been a very wet, cold spring so far, here in Wisconsin. But I

<SNIP Very nice report, of what sounds like a very nice trip. Most enjoyable. TL MV

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I have updated my site designed around collecting, fishing, and repair of bamboo and fiberglass fly rods. I have new articles, stories, photos, and information. The forum is a good source of information about the above topics, and there is a board to get a free appraisal as well as a board to list classic tackle that you have for sale or you wish to buy, which is also free. You can visit the site at  http://www.clarksrods.com Hope you enjoy the site. Regards Clark

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Nice site. Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have updated my site designed around collecting, fishing, and repair of bamboo and fiberglass fly rods. I have new articles, stories, photos, and information. The forum is a good source of information about the above topics, and there is a board to get a free appraisal as well as a board to list classic tackle that you have for sale or you wish to buy, which is also free. You can visit the site at  http://www.clarksrods.com Hope you enjoy the site. Regards Clark

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Now *that* is a nice site! Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have updated my site, added many new graphics, information, stories, improved the forum, and added some rods to the list that are for sale or trade. If you are interested in collecting, fishing, or repairing classic fly rods, you might be interested in visiting the site. The url is http://www.clarksrods.com  Hope you enjoy the site, and if you have any suggestions for improvement, please email me.

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I have updated my site, added many new graphics, information, stories, improved the forum, and added some rods to the list that are for sale or trade. If you are interested in collecting, fishing, or repairing classic fly rods, you might be interested in visiting the site. The url is http://www.clarksrods.com  Hope you enjoy the site, and if you have any suggestions for improvement, please email me.

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The first time I took my oldest son fishing it was off the San Clemente pier he was about four years old. I went to the bait shop and asked the clerk what I could use to make my boy’s fish experience one to remember. Mind you this was 25 years ago. The man said if you want to have a truly great time with your son and get him hooked on fishing use this, he handed me what was called a lucky Joe and he also handed me a chrome coated sinker with a treble hook attached. It was a series of  hooks (six or maybe eight in all) spaced about six to eight inches apart. The hooks were individually wrapped in bright colored yarn. Well I attached the sinker and treble hook to the bottom of this set of hooks and then to my sons fishing line. He lowered it down into the water bobbed it up and down about three times and whamo it looked like he had a hit from a monster lunker. I had to help him reel it in. He had 5 (for lack of a better name) sun fish on the line. I wished I had a camera. You should have seen the look on his face he was so excited. To this day he talks about that moment. He fishes everytime he can and everywhere he can. Even golf course water ways. Anything to be fishing. — SgtMike Free newsletter, Monthly drawing. http://www.thefishermans-tips.com A day spent teaching another to Fish, is a day spent learning to befriend another.

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looks like a good site – I need to get it indexed on my Beginners/Instruction page.  Thanks for posting it. Ronnie http://fishing.about.com

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I have a 6 year old daughter who wants me to teach her how to fish.  I was wondering if anyone had some good ideas on how to make this the most enjoyable for the both of us. Before you buy.

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First things first. Does she really want to learn?? If she does get her a small (not one of the MICKEY MOUSE ) outfits from Zebco. A four to five foot with a  push  button reel.  Start off small! A farm pond or a well stocked pond and a bucket of worms should do the  trick. Be sure to bring a snack or other type of diversion , do not over react when she wants to skip stones or pick flowers. And most of all CHERISH THE TIME YOU HAVE WITH HER.    they GROW UP TOO QUICKLY THESE DAYS. Hope you have fun. Mark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a 6 year old daughter who wants me to teach her how to fish.  I was wondering if anyone had some good ideas on how to make this the most enjoyable for the both of us. Before you buy.

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I have a 6 year old daughter who wants me to teach her how to fish.  I was wondering if anyone had some good ideas on how to make this the most enjoyable for the both of us.

The best all around page I’ve stumbled on for this is: http://thefishernet.com/kids.htm Hope this helps, Jeff The Fishing News  http://www.thefishingnews.com/

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I have a 6 year old daughter who wants me to teach her how to fish.  I was wondering if anyone had some good ideas on how to make this the most enjoyable for the both of us.

Two words: Cane Pole Why? Easier to manage than a spin-cast or fly-rod. Less likely to end up in the emergency room getting hooks cut out, catching trees, etc. Also means you won’t end up casting their line every five minutes. I started both of my daughters this way, and haven’t had a serious problem yet. My older girl is using a spin-cast rod now with few problems, and my 3 year old is almost ready for real hooks. I’d pick someplace where there is areas for the kid to play as well as fish. Patience isn’t a virtue at 6. The local state parks have been a blessing in that regard, every-one has a playground within sight of decent fishing areas. Summer is usually a lousy time to take a kid though, the fishing is sluggish and they just can’t handle all the sitting around. Anyways, good luck. Before you buy.

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Rule # 1.  Leave your fishing pole at home.  Especially if it is your child’s first time fishing.  Focus all your attention on them and share in their excitement in going fishing.  I’ve seen it happen too many times where the parent with the best of intentions loses focus on teaching their child to fish and soon fishing becomes a competition. Inevitably the adult catches the most fish while the child become more and more frustrated and soon loses interest.  Let your daughter be the "big fisherman" and brag about the bigun she caught. It works and soon you will have a lifelong fishing buddy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a 6 year old daughter who wants me to teach her how to fish.  I was wondering if anyone had some good ideas on how to make this the most enjoyable for the both of us. Before you buy.

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Alaska River Adventures ( George Heim out of Kenai) is a great operation with a website http://www.alaskariveradv.com/. Katmai Fishing Adventures (Nanci Morris) runs flyfishing trips out of Bristol Bay area but fishes S. Alaska frequently. Katmai is at 907 246 8322 (sorry no web address yet except through http://www.worldangler.com/nmorakad.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    Contact The Alaska Expidition Co.  1-800-572-0980 or 903-463-7112.  They have a lodge on the Tsiu river and September is a good time to go.  Lots of silvers, few bears.   Look and the latest fly-fisherman mag.    Scott Hi Gang, Been gone for a while but had nothing but great advice from this newsgroup in the past. I got the nod for an Alaska fishing adventure this Summer around the first of September.  I’d do either a float trip or lodge in the panhandle around Ketchican or Juneau…I’d like some wilderness maby float plane jet boat or raft and lots of wild salmon and trout. Less bears is better but this is Alaska…what can you do. Can anyone suggest a friendly lodge on the budget side that can give you the flyfish trip of a lifetime? Thanks, -John

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Hi Gang, Been gone for a while but had nothing but great advice from this newsgroup in the past. I got the nod for an Alaska fishing adventure this Summer around the first of September.  I’d do either a float trip or lodge in the panhandle around Ketchican or Juneau…I’d like some wilderness maby float plane jet boat or raft and lots of wild salmon and trout. Less bears is better but this is Alaska…what can you do. Can anyone suggest a friendly lodge on the budget side that can give you the flyfish trip of a lifetime? Thanks, -John

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You might look into Alaska Rainbow Adventures for a float trip. Web site at  http://www.akrainbow.com. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Gang, Been gone for a while but had nothing but great advice from this newsgroup in the past. I got the nod for an Alaska fishing adventure this Summer around the first of September.  I’d do either a float trip or lodge in the panhandle around Ketchican or Juneau…I’d like some wilderness maby float plane jet boat or raft and lots of wild salmon and trout. Less bears is better but this is Alaska…what can you do. Can anyone suggest a friendly lodge on the budget side that can give you the flyfish trip of a lifetime? Thanks, -John

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        Contact The Alaska Expidition Co.  1-800-572-0980 or 903-463-7112.  They have a lodge on the Tsiu river and September is a good time to go.  Lots of silvers, few bears.   Look and the latest fly-fisherman mag.         Scott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Gang, Been gone for a while but had nothing but great advice from this newsgroup in the past. I got the nod for an Alaska fishing adventure this Summer around the first of September.  I’d do either a float trip or lodge in the panhandle around Ketchican or Juneau…I’d like some wilderness maby float plane jet boat or raft and lots of wild salmon and trout. Less bears is better but this is Alaska…what can you do. Can anyone suggest a friendly lodge on the budget side that can give you the flyfish trip of a lifetime? Thanks, -John

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I have recently moved from Utah to Georgia.  Can anyone help with some good places to fish?

Hi Brett, Welcome to Georgia. Let me know what part of the state you’re in and the type of fishing that interests you, and I’m sure I can give you some suggestions. Dave — Visit Dave Teffeteller’s Fly Fishing Guides Home Page http://www.olfart.com

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I have recently moved from Utah to Georgia.  Can anyone help with some good places to fish?

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I have recently moved from Utah to Georgia.  Can anyone help with some good places to fish?

There are a number of places to FF for trout. Not the wide open streams and rivers of the West, but plenty of fishing. Try North Georgia Trout On-line at http://www.efh.com/~ngtrout That should put you on the trail….. -John Carney

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     We are 4 fishing buddies from Colorado who want to try fishing a new area.  The Deschutes and McKenzie Rivers were recomended to us by a fellow Fly fisherman from California.      We have fished Wyoming, Idaho and Montana in the last several years and would like to try fishing the Northwest.  We are mainly interested in trout although I have never caught a Steelhead.  Most of us are experienced nymph anglers.      We normally hire a guide in any new area we fish to sort of get the lay of the land and then fish on our own.        We will be in the area for about a week and will probably fly into whatever city is recomended, rent a car and drive to an area to fish.  We need rent hotel/motel rooms for each of us near where we are going to fish.      I know when anglers come to Denver from out of town, I will usually take them to the famous South Platte River and then, because they are not local, I will take them to some of my more "secret" areas since they will probably not have the opportunity to spread the word around.      We sure would like to fish some of the more unknown areas and will find it easy to keep the areas a secret since we are 1500 miles away.                                      Thanks for the information                                       Dave Wahl

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     We are 4 fishing buddies from Colorado who want to try fishing a new area.  The Deschutes and McKenzie Rivers were recomended to us by a fellow Fly fisherman from California.     We have fished Wyoming, Idaho and Montana in the last several years and would like to try fishing the Northwest.  We are mainly interested in trout although I have never caught a Steelhead.  Most of us are experienced nymph anglers.     We normally hire a guide in any new area we fish to sort of get the lay of the land and then fish on our own.       We will be in the area for about a week and will probably fly into whatever city is recomended, rent a car and drive to an area to fish.  We need rent hotel/motel rooms for each of us near where we are going to fish.     I know when anglers come to Denver from out of town, I will usually take them to the famous South Platte River and then, because they are not local, I will take them to some of my more "secret" areas since they will probably not have the opportunity to spread the word around.     We sure would like to fish some of the more unknown areas and will find it easy to keep the areas a secret since we are 1500 miles away.                                     Thanks for the information                                      Dave Wahl

The Crooked River.    L.H.

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I recieved a kit for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good book that will help me learn how to tie flies? I am a avid flyfisherman and love to learn more about fly tieing. If anyone has any good paterns please send me a few to try and I will send you one of the finished products to see if I got it right. Thanks Alot Chuck Hester

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I recieved a kit for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good book that will help me learn how to tie flies?

I have Eric Leiser’s book on fly tying and like it.  (Sorry, I can’t remember the name of the book, but it is something obvious, like "Fly Tying."  It has a blue cover with pictures of flies on it.) This book walks you through dries, wets, streamers, etc., in different chapters.  It teaches a basic fly (with some variations) in each chapter, then lists patterns for several more flies that can be tied in the same way.  I like the book, and have only found two drawbacks so far.  First, it is a bit old–1970’s, I think.  The age affects the discussion of materials.  There is little mention of synthetic furs and he says that no substitute is necessary for polar bear hair. Second, there are no color photographs (other than on the cover). They would help mostly to get a better idea of how the final product should look. One of my standards for checking how well the author knows his (her) craft is the discussion of the whip finish.  If a book says that the whip finish is too hard to do and and that you should buy a tool to do it, I put the book down and move on.  The book should teach you how to do a whip finish by hand.  Also, in general, the book should not try to turn you into a "tool junkie."  Many tools you either don’t need or can make yourself.  For example, if an author tells you that you can make a dubbing needle yourself or can buy a potter’s needle tool cheaper than a "flytyer’s dubbing needle," then I rate that book higher than one that only names the tool. All of that said, I will now admit that I am fairly new to flytying. I also took a class at a local community Adult Ed. to help me along. (I got really lucky there.  The instructor was Ray Salminen, who is an excellent tyer and has been tying flies for 60 years!) Good luck! Dave

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I recieved a kit for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good book that will help me learn how to tie flies? I am a avid flyfisherman and love to learn more about fly tieing. If anyone has any good paterns please send me a few to try and I will send you one of the finished products to see if I got it right. Thanks Alot Chuck Hester

Two decent beginner books are those written by Jack Dennis.  Although they were written for Western trout, I dont think that Eastern trout will mind.   These books have the majority of basic long honored patterns, and cute stories that go with each.  In addition, the photographs should help the beginner do well right off the bat.  I would suggest, however, that you take a class in fly tying.  Many community based programs exist, as well as classes taught at fly shops or sporting goods stores. Good luck

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I recieved a kit for Christmas and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good book that will help me learn how to tie flies? I am a avid flyfisherman and love to learn more about fly tieing. If anyone has any good paterns please send me a few to try and I will send you one of the finished products to see if I got it right. Thanks Alot Chuck Hester

I have been tying for about two years. I have two fly tying books that work well for me. 1. Fly Tying Adventures in Fur, Feathers and Fun by John F. McKim.     Great illustrations and a good selection of fly patterns. 2. Tying Flies with Jack Dennis and Friends.     Uses good photographs and very good on the step-by-step process. Happy tying, John

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I have Eric Leiser’s book on fly tying and like it.  (Sorry, I can’t remember the name of the book, but it is something obvious, like "Fly Tying."  It has a blue cover with pictures of flies on it.)

The title is "The Complete Book of Fly Tying" & despite its relative vintage & lack of discussion of a lot of the new synthetics (mylar tubing was pretty avant garde at the time ) it’s a good & thorough guide to many basic & fairly advanced tying techniques. Great drawings. cheers, — Blair Sharpe Ottawa, ON, Canada

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writes: As an alternative to books, one of the better ways to learn tying techniques is to buy or rent a few video tapes.  You’ll learn a lot more watching it being done than you will from looking a couple of still photos and reading a description.

I agree. Gary Borger’s Tying Trout Flies (part of the 3M Scientific Angler series) is quite good. I’m a relatively new tier, also. I, too, have and like Leiser’s Complete Book of Fly Tying. His "The Book of Fly Patterns" isn’t bad, either. It contains tying instructions as well as lots of patterns. I don’t have Randall Kaufmann’s books, but Tying Nymphs, Tying Dry Flies, and Fly Tyer’s Nymph Manual all look like good beginners. Books. Probably my favorite so far is Gary Borger’s Designing Trout Flies. Dave Guinee

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Hello All!     Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.

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Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.

Yes, try rec. outddors fishing flytying    Tom

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Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.

yes!!! rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying Paul M. Willenberg The kool-Aid Whinno http://www.wolfenet.com/~willej    Transcend the Bullshit.    Loud Pipes Save Lives -ATB    If today were a fish I’d throw it back. -Paul Hunter    I used to drink Vodka and Espresso and then I realized the last thing the world needed was a wide awake drunk -PH    Outside of a dog a book is a man’s best friend, inside of a dog it’s too dark to read.-Nelson Algren    Never eat at a place called Ma’s (she’s lying to ya, she’s not your real Ma), Never play cards with a man named Doc, and Never, Never, for any reason, sleep with somebody that has more problems than you.-Nelson ALgren

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. Yes, try rec. outddors fishing flytying    Tom

Using the correct syntax will make it easier to find: It’s rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. Yes, try rec. outddors fishing flytying    Tom Using the correct syntax will make it easier to find: It’s rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY I couldn’t find the group you suiggested above for fly tying. Do I need to do soemthing special to subscribe? David Merkel

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All!    Just got connected to this group – is there also one that is dedicated to fly tieing? K. — |Fidonet:  K. Lindholm 1:285/43 | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. Yes, try rec. outddors fishing flytying    Tom

Try rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying instead.

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I have a CD on fly-tying, interactive and with 900 photos of what they look like and how to tie them, plus much more. It took the authors 5 yars to develop it.

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Quoting powlesla from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    <"Foolishness"? You obviously don’t appreciate how dangerous PETA    <really is.    <They want to ban all fishing and they will say and do anything to    <achieve that goal. Check out  http://www.peta.org  "People Eating Tasty Animals"  Its a riot! Jim Carlisle

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OOPS! Sorry Jim, didn’t know you were conducting a vote…record this as an anti-Jim vote….thanks for the reminder about the kill file.  Why don’t you use it to avoid Walker posts and spare the rest of us all of your aggravation? Sorry, no can do. By the number of anti-Tim posts I have been

seeing, I’d say you are in the minority.<<                         Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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Hi….     I would like some advice on HOW to fish for Steelhead on a fly!! I have been swinging green and red butted skunks in the South Santiam River for two years now, without a take on the fly. I  fish the tailouts and ripples for hours. I have spent my thirty hours on the water, I WANT MY FISH! (Smile)      What do I need to buy or learn about these fish that would make me one of the %10 of the people who catch %90 of the Steelhead. At the present time: I am using light 7 weight, 8 1/2 foot long with floating line and a 9 foot leader. I use a couple of split shot about a foot from the fly to get it to sink. I don’t weight my Steelhead flys… I was told not to by a local flyshop operator, "DEFINITELY DO NOT PUT LEAD ON YOUR FLYS."        Do I need to buy some kinda of sinking line, something like a Deep Water Express to go deeper for Steelhead. I fish for them below the serface during the summer months. *This is what I have read: fish for Steelhead right below the surface during the summer months because the fishes matabolism speeds up due to the warmth of the water and the need to spawn. Also, do Steelhead stay near the bottom of the river most all of the time they are traveling up the river? I see an occasional steelie jump out of the water, but as spectacular as this events is, it is but brief pause to my clinching teeth and despondantly cursing these fish out of my frustration. Heck, I used every fowl word in the English language, so I took up speaking Spanish so that I could curse these fish in another language. (Smile)     In the spirit of flyfishing, if you live in Oregon and understand how to fish for steelhead, then please respond to this message. Even if you don’t…any advice would be nice. If you are fishing for these fish near or around the Eugene, Oregon or Salem, Oregon area, and wouldn’t mind giving a beginner some advice on the river, then let me know and I will bring the beer and lunch. *Sorry, I am a poor college student and can’t afford a guide, even though I would love to charter a guide for a day.*      Thanks…          Joey Hurt  

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    In the spirit of flyfishing, if you live in Oregon and understand   how to fish for steelhead, then please respond to this message. Even if   you don’t…any advice would be nice. If you are fishing for these fish   near or around the Eugene, Oregon or Salem, Oregon area, and wouldn’t   mind giving a beginner some advice on the river, then let me know and I   will bring the beer and lunch. *Sorry, I am a poor college student and   can’t afford a guide, even though I would love to charter a guide for a   day.*       Thanks…           Joey Hurt  

Joey,     No, you don’t need a sinking line.  Actually, you don’t even need a subsurface fly, particularly on fresh fish.  I am a little curious about the S. Santiam as your river of choice.  Any particular reason you picked it over the N. Santiam, the Umpqua the Deschutes or others?  Fishing for steelhead is something of an act of faith these days.  There were somewhat less than 500 wild fish over Sherars Falls on the Deschutes last year.  In the mid 80s, we had just under 10,000. Sounds like you are going about it in the right way, though it is difficult to tell if your are maximizing your chances by picking prime time (of day and year) for the water you are fishing.  You might consider hooking up with a club, the Santiam Flycasters in Salem.  You can access them through Keith Burkhart at the Valley Flyfisher on Alice St. in Salem.                                             Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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Joey, Check out The Anadramous Page on the web.  If you can’t find it, let me know and I’ll send you the URL. Mike

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all i really know about steelhead is that you dont carch them they catch you.  im a student at osu and live in corvallis year round.  i am new to the game but would be more than happy to double team those bastard fish.   by the way have you tried the fork below jefferson wheere the north and south meet. -craig

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I am trying to answer the following fishing facts, that maybe some of you have the answers to: 1.      What is the current world record for King Salmon? Where was it caught and when? 2.      What is the current world record for Rainbow Trout and when was it caught? 3.      The Rainbow Trout world record used to be something like 42 lbs from Lake Pend Oreille. If that record does not still hold, what were the details surrounding that old record? If you know any of these, please e-mail to *                                                                       * * "Sedulously eschew obfuscatory hyperverbosity or prolixity."          *

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1.     What is the current world record for King Salmon? Where was it caught and when?  97 1/4 lbs, 1986.  This was in an article in this month’s Salmon, Trout,  and Steelheader magazine.  greg pavlov

…and, caught on the Kenai River, AK.  It was a big second-run king. -tgades

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1.  What is the current world record for King Salmon? Where was it caught and when?

The record sport-caught King was ninety some pounds, caught in Alaska’s Kenai River.  The record commercially-netted king was in excess of 120 lbs, as I recall, caught in the Cook Inlet. Several years ago a sport fisherman on the Kenai tied into what experienced guides believed was a King exceeding 120 lbs.  The guy played it for several days (sic) before it finally broke off.  It was kind of fun to check the newspaper every morning and see how the fight was going. — -Wayne Trzyna

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While where on the record… Does anyone know the flyfishing record for arctic grayling?  I can only find an all tackle record. Thanks, Lynn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am trying to answer the following fishing facts, that maybe some of you have the answers to: 1. What is the current world record for King Salmon? Where was it caught and when? 2. What is the current world record for Rainbow Trout and when was it caught? 3. The Rainbow Trout world record used to be something like 42 lbs from Lake Pend Oreille. If that record does not still hold, what were the details surrounding that old record? If you know any of these, please e-mail to *                                                                       * * "Sedulously eschew obfuscatory hyperverbosity or prolixity."          *

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