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Tony Knox said in another thread: "Many experienced fishers, who have in their time tried hundreds of different patterns, will carry only half a dozen at any one time." Sounds like a great thread starter…so, what are you carrying in <your fly box these days (if its not unethical to ask…)? riverman

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Tony Knox said in another thread: "Many experienced fishers, who have in their time tried hundreds of different patterns, will carry only half a dozen at any one time." Sounds like a great thread starter…so, what are you carrying in <your fly box these days (if its not unethical to ask…)?

  Clousers, Deceivers, Charlies and some ‘naturals’ based on kicked up   wingsi/bodys. (like the flies at www.successflies.com)   The other box has a few poppers, and a couple of "Standing Yabbies".   http://www.fishnet.com.au/flyswap/flybox/standingyabby.html   That would be 6 styles of fly …   Steve   (Not going to the rever for at least a fortnight

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Tony Knox said in another thread: "Many experienced fishers, who have in their time tried hundreds of different patterns, will carry only half a dozen at any one time." Sounds like a great thread starter…so, what are you carrying in <your fly box these days (if its not unethical to ask…)?

It depends on where I’m fishing.  On my home water, I often just carry a small box on a lanyard with maybe fifty flies in it. On new rivers and especially in new areas I generally wear a loaded vest with LOTS of different flies. Overall, I don’t think you need alot of different patterns, but different sizes and types of flies are important. Willi

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It depends on where I’m fishing.  On my home water, I often just carry a small box on a lanyard with maybe fifty flies in it. On new rivers and especially in new areas I generally wear a loaded vest with LOTS of different flies.

I agree with that. I spend the day fishing on a familiar stream Thursday with a box full of flies–but only ended up using four different patterns and lost no flies. –Steve

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1. Parachute Adams 2. Parachute Hopper 3. Stimulator 4. Pheasant tail 5. Pheasant tail 6. Pheasant tail For the San Juan: 1. Red Larva 24 2. Disco 22 3. KF Emerger 24 4. RS2 22 grey 5. Orange Worm 6. RS2 24 brown

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……what are you carrying in <your fly box these days (if its not unethical to ask…)?

As a one time small scale commercial tier, I not only tied every pattern I could get a picture or recipe for, I also experimented a great deal. I’ve got a vest with a lot of pockets.  It’s always seemed silly to me to carry around a bunch of empty pockets.  Thus, I usually carry anywhere from 5 or 6 to upwards of ten fly boxes crammed full of a huge assortment of flies.  Some of these are so old and have been hidden under other flies for so long that I only see them every couple of years or so.  Every once in a while I waste a couple of hours sorting through the boxes and trying to arrange them according to one scheme or another.  I always give up long before the task is completed, so I have to dig through a number of boxes whenever looking for inspiration in the middle of what appears to be a barren stream. In one pocket (I never remember which one because it changes….apparently of its own will) I keep a box with most of the flies I am likely to use on most outings.  This one contains elk hair caddis, pass lakes, pheasant tail nymphs, picket pin, grhe, maybe some humpies, a couple of wulff variations, foam ants, and hoppers in season.  The others I am fairly likely to use on a more or less regular basis are woolly buggers, woolly worms, mickey finns, hornbergs, and a couple of other oddball streamers and nymphs. Most of the above list account for a small percentage of the fish I catch.  Probably 80% of the trout I catch fall prey to the ehc.  Add the pass lake, foam ants, and hoppers and the total likely comes up to 95%. Woolly buggers, pts, and grhes round it out to virtually 100%. Blue gills are incredible suckers for the pass lake.  Small mouth bass can’t get enough of woolly buggers. Wolfgang and then there’s the hex hatch….of course

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Having just had an opportunity (at the recent roff NOT clave) to review what I carry and what I’m likely to use, I am qualified to comment. There are lessons within this submission. In times long past, I carried one or two small boxes with a few useful flies and caught fish.  Over the past few years, I’ve called Walt and had him get a dozen of this and a dozen of that and load them into an Okuma box or two.  Now, I find that my chest pack is stuffed full of Okuma boxes with all manner of flies.  And the damndest thing, as evidenced by this recent outing, is that Walt now comes to me, saying "you got a sparkly green Wooly Bugger with red eyes and an orange Now, I don’t catch any more fish, I have a sore lumbar region from all of the weight in my pack, my wallet’s empty and the bastid wanted me to leave my remaining beer behind at my departure "so he and Jeff wouldn’t have to go into town for more……". Hell, you thought *you* had friends……. How many flies…..well lemme say *that* ain’t the real question…nossir,….nossir, it ain’t. Tom ……what are you carrying in <your fly box these days (if its not unethical to ask…)?

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8< Now, I don’t catch any more fish, I have a sore lumbar region from all of the weight in my pack, my wallet’s empty and the bastid wanted me to leave my remaining beer behind at my departure "so he and Jeff wouldn’t have to go into town for more……".

now Tom, you know that was justifiable concern for your well-being….. I couldn’t stand the thought of you possibly being arrested for transportin’ across the state. I shouldn’t have been concerned as Big Dale made a trip over to Bryson and picked up some wonderful brews….. Guiness, Bass, some Octos… come to mind….. BTW, despite jeffies energetic attempt, I still have plenty left…… Opie left his brew also…. hmmm, round two? flies….. hmmmmm, here in NC….. adams parachute, don’t leave home without it. a funny aside…. the other day as tommy and i were unpacking a display fixture, the usual foam peanuts also contained these thick dun gray closed cell foam pieces. we were gigglin like school children with the tyin possibilities….. foam bodied adams…etc. i can’t wait to try them out. Big Dale: that sweet little neck you gave me from the fff clave is producin some of the most wonderful yellahammas…. thankee, thankeee, thankeeeeeeeeeeee! –waldo

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so, what are you carrying in <your fly box these days (if its not unethical to ask…)?

Elk Hair Caddis, Yellow and Orange Stimulators, CDC Two Feathers, Gold Ribbed Hare’s Ears, Prince Nymphs. Both nymphs with and without beads, ‘tho the bead heads are generally more productive, IME. That’s almost all of it, except that depending on the time of year I carry a couple of favorite terrestrial patterns like hoppers and beetles. During the coldest part of winter I tie some 22-24 nymphs with black, red, or clear glass bead heads, which are deadly fished at the bottom of a pool with lots of weight and drifted s-l-o-w-l-y. I also like Larva Lace Soft Hackles at different times of the year. So all that exceeds the half dozen or so patterns suggested by the quote, but not by much. If I had to give up all patterns but one, I’d keep the EHC. I catch 75% of my trout in the Smokies and Blue Ridge on them.

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Parachute Adams Quill Gordons Prince Nymphs Gold-Ribbed Hare’s Ears Clouser Minnows (useless for trout, wonderful for crappie) Dave’s Hoppers (don’t know why. I’ve never had a take on them) And if I stop in a flyshop for advice, I’ll usually carry a dozen of whatever they recommend. "Gimme a dozen of whatever’s working" or something like. And nothing is unethical unless rw is the one doing it. – — "Armchair warriors often fail, and we’ve been  poisoned by these fairy tales" -Don Henley —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71VT/rpli/675/DERAjGaAKCCDObehLzMiboUHOXVp7lbbdcuiACgh3/b aqEkwEmhVyvNNbCvsfCbd74= =gslu —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–

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What’s in my box today ? None of your damned business… ;{) — The Halfordian Golfer The deceipt ends with the lure.

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What’s in my box today ? None of your damned business… ;{)

Ahhh, T-Bone. You are consistent, if nothing else. I withdraw the question… <g riverman

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What’s in my box today ? None of your damned business… Ahhh, T-Bone. You are consistent, if nothing else. I withdraw the question…

Don’t worry riverman. I think he just didn’t understand the question. If you had instead asked "what’s in your coffee can?" you likely would have got the answer you were looking for. –Steve

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What’s in my box today ? None of your damned business… Ahhh, T-Bone. You are consistent, if nothing else. I withdraw the question… Don’t worry riverman. I think he just didn’t understand the question. If you had instead asked "what’s in your coffee can?" you likely would have got the answer you were looking for.

Really? T-Bone uses a coffeecan to store his flies? How does this work, T-Bone? (And I wasn’t worried. T-Bone is definately the Pike in this pond, and helps keep a nice balanced ecosystem. I’m just fishing on light tackle today.) riverman

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I’ve found that if you use too fine a tippet in relation to strength, you’ll get major twisting if there is a hard wind.  

This is one time where a thicker or stiffer tippet would be better. Willi

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I’ve found that if you use too fine a tippet in relation to strength, you’ll get major twisting if there is a hard wind.  It seems to be that even though you’ve increased your tippet strength, you still have to match the tippet to the size fly you are casting.  In essence you still need to match DIAMETER with you fly size.  I’ve seen it alot where people insist on matching the BREAKING STRENGTH to the fly size which results in the aforementioned twisting.

Really?  That’s nutty.  Absolutely – diameter (translating into a certain stiffness and/or a certain mass of line) is what matters because that’s what determines how the fly will be cast and presented. Regards, Jeff

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Increases in tippet strength, IMHO, is the most significant improvement in fly fishing equipment in the last fifty years. When I started fly fishing, a tippet fine enough to use with a size 20 fly had a breaking strength of under a pound.  Tough to land a good fish on a tippet that weak. I’m hard pressed to come up with a situation where a finer tippet of the same strength wouldn’t be superior. Willi

I’ve found that if you use too fine a tippet in relation to strength, you’ll get major twisting if there is a hard wind.  It seems to be that even though you’ve increased your tippet strength, you still have to match the tippet to the size fly you are casting.  In essence you still need to match DIAMETER with you fly size.  I’ve seen it alot where people insist on matching the BREAKING STRENGTH to the fly size which results in the aforementioned twisting. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

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Increases in tippet strength, IMHO, is the most significant improvement in fly fishing equipment in the last fifty years. When I started fly fishing, a tippet fine enough to use with a size 20 fly had a breaking strength of under a pound.  Tough to land a good fish on a tippet that weak. I’m hard pressed to come up with a situation where a finer tippet of the same strength wouldn’t be superior. Willi

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Small diameter is not always desirable.

Why not?  By "small diameter", what we really mean is "small diameter relative to its strength".  So if you want a bigger diameter, you could still use "small diameter for its strength", and then a bigger diameter in that brand, and you’ll have the diameter you want but stronger than the other brand. In my experience, Maxima tippet consistently runs about one mil larger than marked.

More like .002 in my experience! Nevertheless, it is an excellent tippet material because it handles abuse much better than some with better specs.

Orvis Super Strong is damn strong, though.  Or damn thin, depending on how you look at it eh? Regards, Jeff

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Increases in tippet strength, IMHO, is the most significant improvement in fly fishing equipment in the last fifty years. When I started fly fishing, a tippet fine enough to use with a size 20 fly had a breaking strength of under a pound.  Tough to land a good fish on a tippet that weak. I’m hard pressed to come up with a situation where a finer tippet of the same strength wouldn’t be superior. Willi

If it is stiffer it might interfere with fly presentation. Peter G. Aitken

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Hello,    As someone new to the sport I have a question regarding tippet material. Does it have to be a specific material or can you use regular fishing line of the correct diameter? I ask this because I noticed that the line I use on my spinning reel lists a dia. of .010 which is the dia. of the tippet I’m told is the correct for the size flies I will be using. Can I use this line or do I have to use a material specific for tippets?

There is a lot of development of monofilament going on with things like copolymers etc. The main effect is that of getting more breaking strength for the same diameter. In addition, the stiffness and abrasion reisitance and knot strength may be affected. Nevertheless, there is no law to prevent you from using any material you want. Small diameter is not always desirable. In my experience, Maxima tippet tconsistently runs about one mil larger than marked. Even so, the strength for a given marked diameter runs less than on other tippet such as Dai-Riki. Nevertheless, it is an excellent tippet material because it handles abuse much better than some with better specs. Bill

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Leader and tippet material is just the same as ordinary Nylon monofilament fishing line.  Some prefer certain types of Nylon, "soft or hard" for instance which makes the leader/tippet, "stiff or limp".    Basically any fishing line will do however. Many people buy spools of the line they like and make up their own leaders and tippets from it.    If you are just starting out, I would recommend buying knotless tapered leaders from your local tackle shop, and a couple of spools of tippet material ( ordinary line ) in the diameters you require. You can of course learn to tie up your own leaders immediately, it is not hard to do. Have a look at   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2/ and   http://globalflyfisher.com Both of these sites have good info on  leaders . TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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   As someone new to the sport I have a question regarding tippet material. Does it have to be a specific material or can you use regular fishing line of the correct diameter? I ask this because I noticed that the line I use on my spinning reel lists a dia. of .010 which is the dia. of the tippet I’m told is the correct for the size flies I will be using. Can I use this line or do I have to use a material specific for tippets?

You can use it.  It should just be a good match with the end of the leader you’re using and match your fly.  The stiffnes of the line is also a factor. The only problem is that the diameter listed might not be correct.  Even with "official" tippet material where the diameter is usually more important than the breaking strength, it is often off.  But probably not so much that it will make a huge difference.  .010 is also called 1X, which is a bit on the heavy side for a lot of trout flies – I was wondering what fly you’re using. Regards, Jeff

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Bonjour, You can use regular fishing line of the correct diameter. The most important in leader and tippet is to tye good knots as a bad knot will brake really easily. The most important in Nylon is to avoid using an too old one. Then remember that from a "regular" fishing line to another one you have differences in coating and other chemical treatements wich make a Nylon softer or not from another one. You have to know what you are searching for, considering lenght of your tippet, size of the fly, wet or dry… Philippe Pacific Angling on Line http://fishing.ifrance.com * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, As someone new to the sport I have a question regarding tippet material. Does it have to be a specific material or can you use regular fishing line of the correct diameter? I ask this because I noticed that the line I use on my spinning reel lists a dia. of .010 which is the dia. of the tippet I’m told is the correct for the size flies I will be using. Can I use this line or do I have to use a material specific for tippets? TIA Rich Kent I no expert, but I don’t see any reason not to use it. Hell, if you’ve got a big spool of it, I’d say that’s a really good reason to use it. Welcome to the sport and as a newcomer, stick around this group. There’s info here amongst the BS.

I’ve started making my own leaders this year.  In doing so I have looked at different companies for my leader material.  I have found the diameter and strength not the same with each company.  I’ve then found that most tippet material, though the same diameter as regular monofilament, is much stronger.  With this in mind, I don’t see any reason why you couldn’t use regular monofilament as long as you understand that it might not be as strong as tippet material for the same diameter. — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html Before you buy.

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Hello,     As someone new to the sport I have a question regarding tippet material. Does it have to be a specific material or can you use regular fishing line of the correct diameter? I ask this because I noticed that the line I use on my spinning reel lists a dia. of .010 which is the dia. of the tippet I’m told is the correct for the size flies I will be using. Can I use this line or do I have to use a material specific for tippets? TIA Rich Kent

I no expert, but I don’t see any reason not to use it. Hell, if you’ve got a big spool of it, I’d say that’s a really good reason to use it. Welcome to the sport and as a newcomer, stick around this group. There’s info here amongst the BS.

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Hello,     As someone new to the sport I have a question regarding tippet material. Does it have to be a specific material or can you use regular fishing line of the correct diameter? I ask this because I noticed that the line I use on my spinning reel lists a dia. of .010 which is the dia. of the tippet I’m told is the correct for the size flies I will be using. Can I use this line or do I have to use a material specific for tippets? TIA Rich Kent

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Was last there five years ago and am thinking of going again in August and know they have a new system for permits with a new automated Provincial Parc permit phone # and all (which I have), but I’m not sure of my dates yet so I have a simple question: Is the system basically the same now as it was before, i.e., you call, reserve your permit, but then gotta pick it up and pay at one of the Ranger stations at the entry points?         Thanks in advance. Sure wish those folks designing these automated tele systems would think about how to provide a way to get some simple information in addition to providing rote services. tgb

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Is the system basically the

same now as it was before, i.e., you call, reserve your permit, but then gotta pick it up and pay at one of the Ranger stations at the entry points? I was sending my answer, when aol decided to close down, so I may be posting this twice. I just received my Remote Area Border Crossing Permit today. Since most or all of the remote customs areas have been closed, you either have to do it by mail or check in at a spot that may not be near your crossing. By mail. they want a photocopy of Birth Certificate and $30 per person or family. Mine took about 2 weeks to process. Dave http://members.tripod.com/~VideoDave

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In response to my question as to permits for Quetico camping DavesVideo I just received my Remote Area Border Crossing Permit today. Since most or all of the remote customs areas have been closed, you either have to do it by mail or check in at a spot that may not be near your crossing. By mail. they want a photocopy of Birth Certificate and $30 per person or family. Mine took about 2 weeks to process.

        Nah Dave, that’s a different thing. That’s for when you want to cross the Border at a … remote point of entry. But, for instance, if you are gonna go into the Parc from one of the northern entry points, and gonna come in from, say, Atikokan, and cross the border at Int’l Falls or Pigeon River, then you don’t need that, and that’s what I’m gonna do. That’s a permit to cross the border, needed at certain remote spots. What I’m interested in is the permit for camping. And my question again is whether the system for these is the same as it used to be: you call, reserve a permit for X date entry, then hafta pick same up at a Ranger station at the Parc when you go in, at which point you also pay. Answer anyone? tgb

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We’re doing the same thing this year – reserve permits and pick them up at a rangers station. For what it’s worth, we reserved our permits back in Feb which was before the new system was put into place. Was last there five years ago and am thinking of going again in August and know they have a new system for permits with a new automated Provincial Parc permit phone # and all (which I have), but I’m not sure of my dates yet so I have a simple question: Is the system basically the same now as it was before, i.e., you call, reserve your permit, but then gotta pick it up and pay at one of the Ranger stations at the entry points?    Thanks in advance. Sure wish those folks designing these automated tele systems would think about how to provide a way to get some simple information in addition to providing rote services. tgb

- Mark Chun Santa Barbara, CA

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In response to my post asking about current Quetico permit processes qrk We’re doing the same thing this year – reserve permits and pick them up at a rangers station. For what it’s worth, we reserved our permits back in Feb which was before the new system was put into place.

        Hey, thanks, and for what it’s worth I found out I’m already screwed. Called to get a permit (finally nailed down my possible dates of entry) and they seem to have zip available for Aug. 12, 13, 14, etc. at entry points not also requiring one of these new remote border crossing permits. Arrgg.         Anyone know of any nice lakes/areas up around SW Ontario not in Quetico where you can find some solitude, nice canoeing, and good smallmouth fly-fishing? Smallmouth just ain’t all that common once you get out of that neck of the woods. tgb

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  I’ve been fishing in the Florida Keys.  There is a boat called "Main Attraction" in Marathon.  Capt. Morris is the owner/operator.  Have always had good luck fishing with him.  Good guy and productive fisherman.

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Strike Zone Charters in Big Pine Key is the only one I go with.  305-872-9863

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I have a listing of guides for Monroe County/the Keys that have web pages. The list is at < http://inshore.com/f-guides.html#Monroe . You might want to visit a few of the sites for more information on trips, rates, etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I’m looking for a game fishing charter in the Florida Keys. Has anybody got any recomendations ?? Cheers Justin

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Hi I’m looking for a game fishing charter in the Florida Keys. Has anybody got any recomendations ?? Cheers Justin

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Hiya Justin, Check out www.met-fl.org This site has a page of links to guides in the Keys and around S. Fla. These guides are some, but not all of the best guides. Most on the list have or guided people who have IGFA records. Good luck, let us know when and how you do. Do you know Stu Cawker"Capt. Asparagus" Hi I’m looking for a game fishing charter in the Florida Keys. Has anybody got any recomendations ?? Cheers Justin

– Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish, goes home through the alley. Anonymous http://fish-n-net.com/

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Looking for tips, patterns, rivers, fly shops, etc. in the vicinity of Brevard and Asheville, North Carolina.  We’ll be there for a few days the end of April, and want to get on the local waters.   Thanks in advance.

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Hi Keith I’ve found two sites on the internet that work well for me when traveling or preparing to travel. They are Switch Board and Map Quest. A quick Lycos search should get you the addresses. With Switch Board you get telephone listings for any area either by individual or by type of business. With Map Quest, you can print out a map on how to find any address. Good luck. Al Looking for tips, patterns, rivers, fly shops, etc. in the vicinity of Brevard and Asheville, North Carolina.  We’ll be there for a few days the end of April, and want to get on the local waters.   Thanks in advance.

Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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Looking for tips, patterns, rivers, fly shops, etc. in the vicinity of Brevard and Asheville, North Carolina.  We’ll be there for a few days the end of April, and want to get on the local waters.

In asheville, there’s Hunter Banks. They should provide you with the info you want. I know that they have an occasional net presence but I’m not familiar with it. Might be worth a search using Hunter Banks as the subject. Hope this helps. DA

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Looking for tips, patterns, rivers, fly shops, etc. in the vicinity of Brevard and Asheville, North Carolina.  We’ll be there for a few days the end of April, and want to get on the local waters. Thanks in advance.

Appalachian Angler – 164 Old Shull’s Mill Rd. Boone, NC 28607. (704-963-5050 Haden and his brother run the oldest guide servive in the area.They guide float and wading trips in NC, Tenn, and also run float trips in Alaska 100 days a year. Hope to be heading up there soon myself. BTW, there is an Orvis shop just down the road from them, but they wern’t nearly as informed or as helpful when I have stopped in to talk with them. I don’t remember the shops name or have their address, but it is located in Banner Elk, NC. Hope this helps, Steve Hike the Florida National Scenic Trail   For information: www: http://www.florida-trail.org/~fta Florida Trail Association P.O. Box 13708, Gainesville Fl. 32604 (800)343-1882

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I am thinking of moving to Phoenix, but I want o know if there is anywhere to flyfish out there.  If anyone could help me I would appreciate it.

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I am thinking of moving to Phoenix, but I want o know if there is anywhere to flyfish out there.  If anyone could help me I would appreciate it.

By out there, I assume you mean Arizona in general. There are at least a dozen bass lakes within 1-2 hours of Phoenix, most of which support largemouth, smallmouth, crappies, panfish, whitebass, etc. Within 2-3 hours you can reach the Flagstaff Area which is surrounded by one of the largest Ponderosa Pine forests in the U.S. (7000+ ft elevation). There are a variety of lakes with rainbows, browns, walleye, northern pike and a few streams (rainbows/browns) in the area. Then 3-4 hours will bring you to the White Mountains/Apache Indian Reservation and some of the best fishing in the state. There are many lakes/streams/creeks in the area which support browns, rainbows, grayling, and native species such as the Apache and Gila trout. Recent fishing reports have mentioned quite a few 3-5 pound rainbows being caught (and hopefully released) at some of the White Mountain lakes. I shouldn’t fail to mention Lee’s Ferry on the Colorado River, 4-5 hours from Phoenix, a definite Blue-Ribbon tailwater fishery (barbless hooks, fly/artifical lure only, and slot limits). Of course, 6-10 hours will get you to quite a few places in Utah, New Mexico, and Colorado including San Juan, Animas, Boulder Mountain, etc. And don’t forget, AZ is close to Mexico and saltwater flyfishing If you want some more specific information you can contact the folks at Canyon Creek Anglers (a flyshop in Phoenix) at 602-277-8195.

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My wife and I are considering a summer vacation in the Keys and are interested in learning to fly fish.  I am soliciting information regarding fly fishing schools/camps that accommodate beginners (though I have been fishing for over 20 years (spinning)).  Any reco’s appreciated! TIA, Brian

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OK, ypu asked for it!!!….lol……. First I wouldn t go to the Key in the Simmertime…the heat is unbelieveable.. So, I suggest the Orvis School in Vermont….;or, the L L Bean School in Maine!!! However, here are some good dites in  the Keys; http://fla-keys.com:80/fishing/about.htm Flyfishing Keys http://fla-keys.com:80/fishing/index.htm Flyfishing Keys http://Florida-Keys.info-access.com:80/ here or the others: http://www.L L Bean.com http://www.alloutdoors.com/orvis/ My wife and I are considering a summer vacation in the Keys and are   interested in learning to fly fish.  I am soliciting information   regarding fly fishing schools/camps that accommodate beginners (though I   have been fishing for over 20 years (spinning)).  Any reco’s appreciated! TIA, Brian

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Could someone tell me the price a Jungle Cock cape is worth and were can i order some. Tanks Serge

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Could someone tell me the price a Jungle Cock cape is worth and were can i order some. Tanks Serge

They cost around $125. The Golden Hackle Fly Shop  1-800-449-4359 or Fly & Field 1-800-328-9753 Steve.

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Could someone tell me the price a Jungle Cock cape is worth and were can i order some. Tanks Serge They cost around $125. The Golden Hackle Fly Shop  1-800-449-4359 or Fly & Field 1-800-328-9753 Steve.

Well, I take it back.  I just got my new Golden Hackle catalog, and the price has gone up to $195 for a #1 cape.  I haven’t seen a new F&F, but I would bet his price went way up too, since Gordon at the Golden Hackle is pretty fair with his prices. Steve

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Another source of jungle cock is Dan Bailey’s catalog page 33.  The feathers are selected by size and sell for $5.95 per package. For futhure info call 800-356-4052. Good Tying & Tight Lines Al BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT

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The Cabela’s 1996 fly-fishing catalog has #1 capes for $125 and #2 capes for $97

The (new?) British monthly Fly Fishing and Fly Tying has currently an inserted catalogue for Anglia Fisheries listing #1 jungle cock capes for 80 pounds — much the same as Cabelas. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could someone tell me the price a Jungle Cock cape is worth and were can i order some. Tanks Serge They cost around $125. The Golden Hackle Fly Shop  1-800-449-4359 or Fly & Field 1-800-328-9753 Steve. Well, I take it back.  I just got my new Golden Hackle catalog, and the price has gone up to $195 for a #1 cape.  I haven’t seen a new F&F, but I would bet his price went way up too, since Gordon at the Golden Hackle is pretty fair with his prices. Stev

You  can also call Shannon’s Toronto Canada 1.800.618.1418

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writes: I live about 30 miles east of Atlanta, near Stone Mountain, GA.<<<

There are at least 5 active TU chapters in the Metro area as well as the Atlanta Fly Fishing Club. (If not mistaken, one TU chapter towards Stone Mtn). Want to learn where in the SE, join one! Or visit one of our 3 local FF shops (and no.. the Bass Pro shop is not one of them )

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Try Telico plans Tn, only 2.5 hrs. from Atlanta great fishing.

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I live about 30 miles east of Atlanta, near Stone Mountain, GA. I to am looking for places to fish in North Georgia, SC and NC.  Please share what you find out! It would be much appreciated. Thanks Kevin

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I am wondering if there are any tricks to tying backing onto my reel then to my floating fly line?  It seems pretty straightforward, but I have noticed alot of talk about different fishermen’s reliance upon and use of backing. What’s the process.  Thanks for any troubleshooting tips.

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I am wondering if there are any tricks to tying backing onto my reel then to my floating fly line?  It seems pretty straightforward, but I have noticed alot of talk about different fishermen’s reliance upon and use of backing. What’s the process.  Thanks for any troubleshooting tips.

You should ask this in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly, it will likely touch off a major discussion! First off, you definitely need backing, unless you plan to spend your time catching 4" trout that are 15ft away. What you use as backing is another matter. Some guys like to lay out $$$ for custom designed fly rod backing – I prefer to use an el cheapo alternative, black dacron line. It costs about 1/4 as much as real backing and is pretty much the same thing. The backing knot is another question entirely. The folks in r.o.f.f will talk about everything from nail knots at the high end down to modified versions of a sheet bend / figure eight combination called a backing knot. Best to do some reading at the library to see what’s the best for your purposes (ie what can you be bothered tying, and how important you think it is to your type of fishing). Good luck Rod

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