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___  I may have erred on the side of the Confederate flag as I’ve been told time and again not to get involved in politics.  But I love the deep south and I can write a book about my fly fishing career there.  In fact, I have. Oh well, chaos is just my nature I suppose.  Sorry Tom. Please forgive me. The turtle retracts his neck back within its shell. The guy everyone loves to hate, Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/

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___  I may have erred on the side of the Confederate flag as I’ve been told time and again not to get involved in politics.  But I love the deep south and I can write a book about my fly fishing career there.  In fact, I have. Oh well, chaos is just my nature I suppose.  Sorry Tom. Please forgive me. The turtle retracts his neck back within its shell. The guy everyone loves to hate, Mr. G.

IMHO, the Confederate Flag is now used mainly as a symbol of racism. If South Carolina had any regard for their image they’d dump it. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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George writes:  I may have erred on the side of the Confederate flag as I’ve been told time and again not to get involved in politics.  But I love the deep south and I can write a book about my fly fishing career there.  In fact, I have……  Sorry Tom. Please forgive me.

Geez, George, I wasn’t even mad….worth pointing out, however, the SC started flying said flag in the late 1950’s and as such, it was more a statement of racism than confederate patriotism, IMHO.                       Tom Littleton

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Texas Hill Country

Texas Hill Country

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Visit the Austin Flyfishers at http:\www.austinflyfishers.org We have lot’s of local knowledge and some great outings

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am interested in fly-fishing more and the nearest fresh water fishing is really the hill country.  Any recommendations on which rivers to fish for bass?  I know they stock the guadalupe with trout in january, but that is not exactly my idea of fishing.  You must have corn to catch those fish! Thanks    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?c ****-  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser

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Thanks for all the replies.  I have ordered my book and look forward to trying my luck here in Texas. Anyone ever fish the Guadalupe near Comfort?  I will be there this weekend. When I was a kid, I used to catch bass and perch pretty easily there.  Last time I tried about two years ago I saw zero fish. Dave    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?c ****-  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser

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I fish every weekend on the Guadalupe under the Canyon Lake dam.  I always catch at least some small Rainbows. I am new to Fishing for trout but I have seen 15 to 20 Rainbows all over 12" (some close to 18") within 300 yards of the Dam.  Guadalupe bass are the prime target for Texas shallow rivers, they spend a lot of tie in moving water and pull like a largemouth 150% as large. Bluegills and all sortse of sunfishes are everywhere.  People are now cathcing a Gualdalupe-smallmouth hybrids (world record in the San Marcos River) in the Blanco and other beautiful clearwater texas streams.

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I haven’t fished the Guadelupe in several years…just never had much confidence in that river. After looking at some web sites, scanning recent reports, have become interested again. Mostly curious as to details re DRY fly fishing on this river, as I’ve heard mostly about nymphs and wets. Do dries work here? What sections, what times of day, time of year, types of flies? Hope to start getting out there in Dec.-Jan. Thanks! ACP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I fish every weekend on the Guadalupe under the Canyon Lake dam.  I always catch at least some small Rainbows. I am new to Fishing for trout but I have seen 15 to 20 Rainbows all over 12" (some close to 18") within 300 yards of the Dam.  Guadalupe bass are the prime target for Texas shallow rivers, they spend a lot of tie in moving water and pull like a largemouth 150% as large. Bluegills and all sortse of sunfishes are everywhere.  People are now cathcing a Gualdalupe-smallmouth hybrids (world record in the San Marcos River) in the Blanco and other beautiful clearwater texas streams.

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Go by the Austin Angler and pick up a copy of "Fly Fishing the Texas Hill Country" by Bud Priddy.  It has pretty much all you need to get you going. Course if you already have a can of corn and want to stand elbow to elbow …. -jerry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am interested in fly-fishing more and the nearest fresh water fishing is really the hill country.  Any recommendations on which rivers to fish for bass?  I know they stock the guadalupe with trout in january, but that is not exactly my idea of fishing.  You must have corn to catch those fish! Thanks    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?c ****-  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser

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I was in there this afternoon and they still had a stack of them. -jerry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last I heard, Bud Priddy’s book was out of print.  I bought mine about 3 months ago at Austin Anglers, which still had some, so check there. <<I am interested in fly-fishing more and the nearest fresh water fishing is really the hill country.  Any recommendations on which rivers to fish Suggest you get a copy of "Fly-Fishing the Texas Hill Country" by Bud Priddy. It has complete information on all the rivers in the hill country. The Guadalupe has a year round trout population (the only one in Texas). You don’t have to use corn to catch them. The Guadalupe also has large and smallmouth bass and some great sunfish fishing. Check with Gruene Outfitters in Gruene. They can give you some good information. Also, Austin Anglers is a good resource. Join a local flyfishing club.

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I am interested in fly-fishing more and the nearest fresh water fishing is really the hill country.  Any recommendations on which rivers to fish for bass?  I know they stock the guadalupe with trout in january, but that is not exactly my idea of fishing.  You must have corn to catch those fish! Thanks    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?c ****-  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser

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<<I am interested in fly-fishing more and the nearest fresh water fishing is really the hill country.  Any recommendations on which rivers to fish Suggest you get a copy of "Fly-Fishing the Texas Hill Country" by Bud Priddy. It has complete information on all the rivers in the hill country. The Guadalupe has a year round trout population (the only one in Texas). You don’t have to use corn to catch them. The Guadalupe also has large and smallmouth bass and some great sunfish fishing. Check with Gruene Outfitters in Gruene. They can give you some good information. Also, Austin Anglers is a good resource. Join a local flyfishing club.

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Last I heard, Bud Priddy’s book was out of print.  I bought mine about 3 months ago at Austin Anglers, which still had some, so check there. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<I am interested in fly-fishing more and the nearest fresh water fishing is really the hill country.  Any recommendations on which rivers to fish Suggest you get a copy of "Fly-Fishing the Texas Hill Country" by Bud Priddy. It has complete information on all the rivers in the hill country. The Guadalupe has a year round trout population (the only one in Texas). You don’t have to use corn to catch them. The Guadalupe also has large and smallmouth bass and some great sunfish fishing. Check with Gruene Outfitters in Gruene. They can give you some good information. Also, Austin Anglers is a good resource. Join a local flyfishing club.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Saco River ????

Saco River ????

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As a keen fly fisherman in the UK my knowledge of US river’s is very limited. I have been offered the chance to join a trip to North Conway in New Hampshire sometime around June ‘98.

Steve, The Saco is a good trout river.  Clear, cold water that flows out of the White Mountains.  The Ellis river is a tributary that also holds some nice trout.  Many ponds in the area have some good hatches in June.  A little further away is the Androscoggin river, a much larger river that holds brook trout, rainbows, browns, and landlocked salmon. Good luck on your trip, Gerry Crow

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As a keen fly fisherman in the UK my knowledge of US river’s is very limited. I have been offered the chance to join a trip to North Conway in New Hampshire sometime around June ‘98. The only river that I know to be close by is the Saco. Can anyone tell me :- Is there any trout in it and can they be caught? How is it best fished? What sort of tackle is required? Is there any other water’s (river or lake) near to N. Conway that are fished using the fly? Is there any other advise anyone can give me? Thanks in advance for any help. — Steve Patrick

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I spent several days in North Conway with my family last June.  Although I didn’t spend any time fishing the Saco River, I did watch the river for about an hour or so every evening for future reference.  The water was at an average level, the hatches were impressive, every size and color of fly you can imagine.  The fish were feeding actively but appeared tough to raise.  The water near this particular bridge is deep and clear and also very heavily fished.  There was a fisherman every 100 feet or so both upstream and down every night, and I believe it may be ffo in that area.  Several guide options in N.Conway would be your best bet to find a more peaceful experience as I know there are other streams within an hour drive that would be less as crowded.   Have a great time in New England, be sure to pack your bug spray or a few strong cigars! Jim Finely crafted leather goods from the tanned skins of Atlantic salmon, wolf fish and cod fish. Visit our site at: http://www.tiac.net/users/batesbiz/upscale.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a keen fly fisherman in the UK my knowledge of US river’s is very limited. I have been offered the chance to join a trip to North Conway in New Hampshire sometime around June ‘98. The only river that I know to be close by is the Saco. Can anyone tell me :- Is there any trout in it and can they be caught? How is it best fished? What sort of tackle is required? Is there any other water’s (river or lake) near to N. Conway that are fished using the fly? Is there any other advise anyone can give me? Thanks in advance for any help. — Steve Patrick

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Advice wanted -bonefishing

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Bill–thank you for the clearest, most succinct piece of fishing advice I’ve seen recently in this group. I’m also going to the Bahamas for the first time next week and your advice was timely and valuable.

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I am planning my first bonefish trip to Abaco in April. Does anyone have a list of what to pack (stuff like sunscreen,etc.) to fish this area. I have never traveled to the Bahamas and would appreciate any suggestions. Also, any recommendations on clothing and fly patterns would be great. Thanks.

Jim, As of yet I have to wet a line in the southern salt.  However I attended a lefty Kreh seminar last year with a few good general tips, as follows: Find out what colour the bottom is where you are going.  Tie light coloured flies for a light bottom..  A dark bait would seem out of place in "nature" A few good flies in different sizes and colours are better than a vest of mix and match.. FInd out if the fish are being caught on a high or low tide and fish accordingly… Suncreen, suncreen and more suncreen… Ian

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I am planning my first bonefish trip to Abaco in April. Does anyone have a list of what to pack (stuff like sunscreen,etc.) to fish this area. I have never traveled to the Bahamas and would appreciate any suggestions. Also, any recommendations on clothing and fly patterns would be great. Thanks.

Start with a good hat that has a bill that is dark on the underside and has a chin strap for wind. Next, Polarized glasses that are not to dark and are in brown to yellow tones with a neck strap and side shields. Good sun screen is a must. I like very light weight long sleeve shirts and long pants for sun protection in light colors. Orvis, Streamline, Simms and Bare make about the same neoprene, thick soled flats booties that are the standard foot wear today. Most anglers are using #7, 8 and 9 weight outfits for bonefish depending on the wind, fly size and weight. We like leaders that a either hand tied or knotless that are ~ 9′ and clear with a stiff/hard consistency. If the wind is not blowing and the fish are spooky, I just add 3 to 5 feet of tippet and go down a size in flies. I recommend Cortland or SA saltwater lines for the hotter weather. In the Bahamas they use light colored Nasty Charlies that were developed there by Bob Nauheim of Santa Rosa ( Fishing International). The McVay Gotcha is very popular and Lefty Kreh really promotes the chartruese/white Clouser minnows. You might bring some small light colored crabs?  We use smaller/lighter flies in shallow water ( #6/8), medium weight/size flies(#4/6) for average depths(12 to 18") and larger/heavier flies( #2) with lead eyes for deeper water or current drift from tide movement. Take something to clean the salt spray from you glasses. I use a fanny pack if we are going for a long walk on the flats. Bring a small water resistant camera, batteries and film. I use a big stainless steel combo forcepts/cutter that will pinch the barbs, cut leader/tippet and remove deeply hooked flies. I hope that all anglers could have one nice day on the flats with the bonefish. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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I am planning my first bonefish trip to Abaco in April. Does anyone have a list of what to pack (stuff like sunscreen,etc.) to fish this area. I have never traveled to the Bahamas and would appreciate any suggestions. Also, any recommendations on clothing and fly patterns would be great. Thanks.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fish » Northern Cascades/Diablo Lake. What to take?

Northern Cascades/Diablo Lake. What to take?

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For that area, I would say that your 6 wt outfit will work just fine with the standard attractor patterns.  For some amazing action, go down the Skagit (west on WA 20- North Cascades Highway) past all the dams and shoot for the coho runs.  Steelhead State Park, off of WA 20, provides a good place to park and is right on the bank.  The Skagit has been recently designated a Wild and Scenic River, and it truly is.  With the steelhead, and the salmon, and the bald eagles looming on the trees over the banks, you ought to have a wonderful experience, provided that you’ve no leaks in your waders; the entire Skagit watershed from Ross and Diablo down to the sound is cold.   I just recently moved from Washington and have fished that area for years.  I hope you enjoy your trip.  Good fishing! BC

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For that area, I would say that your 6 wt outfit will work just fine with the standard attractor patterns.  For some amazing action, go down the Skagit (west on WA 20- North Cascades Highway) past all the dams and shoot for the coho runs.  Steelhead State Park, off of WA 20, provides a good place to park and is right on the bank.  The Skagit has

There are several places from which one migh fly fish- some off the highway.  Some off, eg., Sauk Store Road.  Call Skagit Anglers (360) 336-3232 in Mount Vernon or Priced Less Sporting Goods (360) 855-0895 in Sedro-Woolley for current regulation, access info.

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Greetings all:         I am taking a trip into the Pacific Northwest for business, and I will be taking a couple of days to hike in the region.  I will be at the Colonial Creek campground in North Cascades for two days, next to Diablo, and there is a lake supposedly full of trout.  Anyone have any suggestions for flies and rigging that works well there?  Also, I am currently using an 8.5 ft, 6wt rod and line combo.  Will this work well, or should I try to rent gear in Seattle that would be better suited?  Any suggestions about where to rent would also be helpful, since I may just go that route instead of risking my rod in an airplane.     Many thanks. Dan Johnson

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Greased leader?

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  I read an article in a magazine that said, "although midge pupae are often fished with considerable patience on long greased leaders…"    What does a greased leader do?  How and why should you use it?  Thanks.                                           – Harald

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  I read an article in a magazine that said, "although midge pupae are often fished with considerable patience on long greased leaders…"    What does a greased leader do?  How and why should you use it?  Thanks.

It floats.  British books on lake fishing tell you how many feet of the leader to grease, so that the buzzer (chrironomid pupa fly) sinks, but only a few inches.  But N.American flies (and stillwater ecology in general) are different…. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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 I read an article in a magazine that said, "although midge pupae are often fished with considerable patience on long greased leaders…"   What does a greased leader do?  How and why should you use it?  Thanks.                                          - Harald

If you want a light pattern like a midge to suspend close to the water surface you put floatant on the leader, and this will stop the fly from going too deep,  The leader so treated will be a little more obvious to the trout.  This may be irrelevant these days since there are many suspender midge patterns which hold their possition due to matterials like foam cases. Thomas

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It just means it has some floatant rubbed on it so it floats instead of sinking under the water film.  Usually just rubbing some of your fly floatation goop on your leader to keep it from going under will work fine.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » REQ: Boundary Lakes Canoe area – what to fish for?

REQ: Boundary Lakes Canoe area – what to fish for?

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Hi and thanks for the replies. To clarify, he will start at Moose Lake, travel through Knife Lake and then loop back. StephenC.

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Hi,         I have a friend who is going to the Boundary Lakes canoe area late this summer and was wanting to get some fishing info. What kind of fish are there? What’s the best bait, lures? Thanks. StephenC.

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Hi,    I have a friend who is going to the Boundary Lakes canoe area late this summer and was wanting to get some fishing info. What kind of fish are there? What’s the best bait, lures? Thanks. StephenC.

Stephen: Primary species are smallmouth bass, northern pike, and walleyes.  Best lures (in my experience) are Rapalas (floating and Shad Raps) and Mepps spinners for northerns and smallmouths, grub, marabou, and bucktail jigs for the walleyes. I believe it is still true that live minnows (or live baitfish of any kind) are illegal.  Live nightcrawlers, however, are legal and very effective for smallies and for walleyes. If you are so inclined, flyfishing can be very productive.  Big, flashy things like Deceivers, Clouser minnows, and flashy streamers work well for pike and wooly buggers, muddlers, and damselfly nymphs will work for the smallmouths.  Also, deerhair mice can work EXTREMELY well for bass in the morning and evening, and you may get surprised by a big pike. Hope your friend has fun, it is a beautiful part of the world. Good luck, Bob

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,       I have a friend who is going to the Boundary Lakes canoe area late this summer and was wanting to get some fishing info. What kind of fish are there? What’s the best bait, lures? Thanks. StephenC. Stephen: Primary species are smallmouth bass, northern pike, and walleyes.  Best lures (in my experience) are Rapalas (floating and Shad Raps) and Mepps spinners for northerns and smallmouths, grub, marabou, and bucktail jigs for the walleyes.

Huh? I would have said the primary species are rainbow, brook, splake and lake trout. I guess we hang out in different neighborhoods. Lance

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Fighting a Trout?

Fighting a Trout?

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I have heard that when fighting a hooked trout it is a good idea to keep the rod as close to the water as possible-the idea being that upward pressure spooks the fish more than sideways pressure.  Any thoughts? Plus, what do you do if you have hooked a large fish on a light tippet and he has run 50 yds. down stream and there is no way for you to walk downstream?  Should you try to muscle him in? Tarpon

   A). Sideways pressure wears out a fish quickly because it is forced to swim against the force "unbalanced". Direct upward pressure allows a fish to point his nose down and "square" against the resistance of your rod (just as if you were dragging a sack of concrete on a rope, it would be easier to do so with the rope over your shoulders and the weight squared against your body.    More importantly, with a rod held high you are applying force with the limber tip of the rod. Pulling to the side with rod held low you are almost automatically using the stronger lower third of the rod to muscle the fish.    B). With a fish stubbornly holding downcurrent, you can flake line into the water so that a belly developes in the line downstream of the fish. Very often (almost always in my experience) the fish will resist the pull coming from below him and will swim upstream towards you.       Hope that helped.    -Ralph Ralph Cutter, California School of Flyfishing. http://www.flyline.com

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[Cut]    More importantly, with a rod held high you are applying force with the limber tip of the rod. Pulling to the side with rod held low you are almost automatically using the stronger lower third of the rod to muscle the fish.[Cut]

OK, I realize I was dating some girl at the time and physics class was all the way over on the other campus but I don’t believe that the point expressed above is valid.  Gravity is not a major component of this problem so up, down, and side aren’t major issues.  The angle of the line to the rod is the critical issue.  This angle isn’t necessarily changed by lowering the rod to your side.  The angle is changed by lowering or raising the rod tip in the direction of the fish – regardless of whether you are holding the rod above your head or out to the side.   —     David J. Ebinger                     216-966-9702     Ebinger Equipment Co.                Fax 966-7671     http://www.bright.net/~ebco/

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Flyfishing ftp-sites?

Flyfishing ftp-sites?

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Anybody knows where to get good flyfishing oriented programs? Thanks

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Hi, My FlyFish software (DOS) can be downloaded from ftp.geo.mtu.edu by connecting in as anonymous, and changing directory to /pub/fishing/Software/dos. There are two files flyfish.txt and flyfish.exe, please read the flyfish.txt for installation instructions, one thing I forgot to mention was that it must be installed as a top level directory, preferably C: Have fun and let me know what you think, I am working on windows versions at the moment, Regards Chris Cox

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Michigan FF

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I’m pretty new to the fly fishing sport but already have been blessed with some nice size trout! Living in Detroit in the Summers and Lansing for school I don’t really have a place that is nice and close.  I do a lot of fishing in Harbor Beach, which is about 50 miles north of Port Huron.  I’ve also fished the PM, and love the "flies only" section.  I’m just wondering if anyone knows where the hot spots are so I don’t have to drive too far and find out that the fishing sucks! And hey, maybe we can exchange stories, I’m always up for some good BS! All you Michigan FF, Keep in touch because the Salmon season is soon to start. I have plenty of good spots to go to.  I go up just about every weekend all year round.  Steelhead, Salmon, and runt trout.  What do you fish for?  Write back, I will be going up north this weekend to fish for chinook, coho, and summer steelhead.  Yes, there are still skamania in the river. Hooked and landed a 16 pound chinook two weeks ago on the Betsie River.

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Living in Detroit in the Summers and Lansing for school I don’t really have a place that is nice and close.  I do a lot of fishing in Harbor Beach, which is about 50 miles north of Port Huron.  I’ve also fished the

Jon-Paul; Since you’re heading 50 miles north of Port Huron maybe one day you should make a left turn and head over to Canada. From about Goderich (50 miles north of Sarnia) North there are a number of excellent salmon/steelhead rivers, with trout in the feeder streams. If you want to make a weekend or late night of it the Grand north of Kitchener (about 150 mile from Detroit) is another good river (C&R single barbless hook) with a good population of browns. Regards; —                         Dept. OB/GYN                         University of Western Ontario                         London, Ontario, CANADA

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I’m pretty new to the fly fishing sport but already have been blessed

JPJ, welcome aboard!  I get up north too infrequently, but have my favorite hangouts of course.  I don’t know as you’d like them, though, being into steelies and salmon and such.  I’m a brookie specialist, and my favorite thing is fishing itty bitty creeks you wouldn’t think you could fly fish. Most of them you can reach across with your rod, and it’s a rare day when I can actually cast.  Mostly, I’ve become very good at the roll cast… and at disengaging snags.  For those big’uns, you might try the lower Betsie. — Lee Green MD MPH         | Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are my own, Family Practice          | and do not represent the University of University of Michigan   | Michigan.  Medical commentary is for general                          | personal physician for your own care.

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I’m pretty new to the fly fishing sport but already have been blessed with some nice size trout! Living in Detroit in the Summers and Lansing for school I don’t really have a place that is nice and close.  I do a lot of fishing in Harbor Beach, which is about 50 miles north of Port Huron.  I’ve also fished the PM, and love the "flies only" section.  I’m just wondering if anyone knows where the hot spots are so I don’t have to drive too far and find out that the fishing sucks! And hey, maybe we can exchange stories, I’m always up for some good BS! All you Michigan FF, Keep in touch because the Salmon season is soon to start. — *                                                                        * *         Michigan State University Men’s Basketball Manager             * *                         *                                                                        * *             Countdown to a Big 10 Championship Season                  * *                                                                        * *              Respert * Snow * Brooks * Beathea * Feick                 * *                                                                        * * Respert Needs 786 points to be the Big Ten’s all time leading scorer!  *

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