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riverman, try this site if you get access to internet http://scandicangler.com/ it has virtually no delay when it comes to posts on R.O.F.F.

Thanks Roger, but, uh, I have absolutely no idea how to use that site!! Its in some furrin’ language! <g riverman

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Damn! I saw the English flag but never tried it since I have no problem reading Norwegian, or Danish for that matter. You can always keep the adress in mind, maybe they will come up with the English version soon (at least they have prepared for it). Yours/ Roger Taking things for granted will eventually cause problems.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – riverman, try this site if you get access to internet http://scandicangler.com/ it has virtually no delay when it comes to posts on R.O.F.F. Thanks Roger, but, uh, I have absolutely no idea how to use that site!! Its in some furrin’ language! <g riverman

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Yee Ha! At least I’ve got you on age!  40 coming up shortly. bruce h

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Yee Ha! At least I’ve got you on age!  40 coming up shortly.

Old fart in training!  Old fart in training!!!!!  Bawahahahaha!!!!!! — Warren (who isn’t the youngest on ROFF, but is younger than you!!:-) change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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I don’t know if I’ll have newsgroup access in SA, or in Congo. If not, be assured I’ll be lurking via google.com, (someone say hello to me sometime; I’ll see it) and if possible, look forward to a progress report from the other side of the world once I find usenet access. Without usenet access, I’ll post some TRs via emails to another ROFFian.

riverman, try this site if you get access to internet http://scandicangler.com/ it has virtually no delay when it comes to posts on R.O.F.F. — Tight lines! / Roger Ohlund Daytime engineer Lifetime flyfisherman For info on flyfishing in northern Sweden visit http://home.bip.net/angler/

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riverman said: Maybe my posts are excellent, but my JUDGEMENT leaves something to be desired… Then it’s *gotta* be for the big bucks! It can’t be for the scenery.  :( — TL, Tim

The bucks are OK, but nothing to write home about. I guess mostly I’m doing it for the experience. That, and my partner threatened to leave me if I spent another day gawking at the women in Riga. In retrospect, it was a pretty risky play on her part.   :-/ riverman

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(snip) Man, the youth, the travel, the free time, the Russian women. Your posts are excellent Riverman. bruce h

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(snip) Man, the youth, the travel, the free time, the Russian women. Your posts are excellent Riverman.

Why, thank you Bruiser! But maybe you missed the gist of that post….see, I’m LEAVING this region (with the beautiful Russian women) and going to the middle of AIDs and malaria-mosquito infested Dark Africa, for 2 or 3 years, where there are no good trout streams, no political or social infrastructure, its 100 degrees in the shade, but there ain’t no shade, 99% humidity on the dry days, and my ‘youth’ (sneaking up on 45) is fading as rapidly as my prospects of scoring one of those Russian thong-mamas in the 2.5 days I have left here. Maybe my posts are excellent, but my JUDGEMENT leaves something to be desired… riverman

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (snip) Man, the youth, the travel, the free time, the Russian women. Your posts are excellent Riverman. Why, thank you Bruiser! But maybe you missed the gist of that post….see, I’m LEAVING this region (with the beautiful Russian women) and going to the middle of AIDs and malaria-mosquito infested Dark Africa, for 2 or 3 years, where there are no good trout streams, no political or social infrastructure, its 100 degrees in the shade, but there ain’t no shade, 99% humidity on the dry days, and my ‘youth’ (sneaking up on 45) is fading as rapidly as my prospects of scoring one of those Russian thong-mamas in the 2.5 days I have left here. Maybe my posts are excellent, but my JUDGEMENT leaves something to be desired…

Then it’s *gotta* be for the big bucks! It can’t be for the scenery.  :( — TL, Tim

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And the women in this part of the world are the most beautiful anywhere I have ever been, and thats a lot of places. Stop you in your tracks beautiful. what is your line of work, riverman?  do you need an english-speaking assistant?  free legal service?  do the process servers in riga take bribes?  is schwepps tonic water readily available? a rapid response will be much appreciated by

wayno: I teach school, and sure I could use an english-speaking assistant  Let me warn you, though, once you visit a place like this, your freaking life is ruined forever. Check out this article: http://www.csica.com/selyanka/newreports.htm And, yes they take bribes, schwepps is available, and I leave on Sunday. Like I said, Stupid Plan… riverman (who is impressed that you are the only roffian to notice the lowercase ‘r’)

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<snip Here in Riga, the days are currently 23 hours long, the weather clear and bright, and as you move northwards through Estonia and Finland (as some recent TRs have exposed), the trout/greyling fishing becomes world-class at this time of year. You can basically follow the ‘early spring’ conditions north to your hearts desire, and there are hundreds of thousands of spots to fish.

<snip <snip And at this moment, I have 3 months pay in my pocket, 11 weeks vacation,

.. <snip Look at it this way, the days won’t be as long and your your cash supply a little smaller, but the grayling fishing will be even better when you get back in the autumn. Have a safe journey /Roger

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And the women in this part of the world are the most beautiful anywhere I have ever been, and thats a lot of places. Stop you in your tracks beautiful.

        what is your line of work, riverman?  do you need an english-speaking assistant?  free legal service?  do the process servers in riga take bribes?  is schwepps tonic water readily available?         a rapid response will be much appreciated by your friend in the old north state wayno  (have lust, will travel)

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I don’t know if I’ll have newsgroup access in SA, or in Congo. If not, be assured I’ll be lurking via google.com, (someone say hello to me sometime; I’ll see it) and if possible, look forward to a progress report from the other side of the world once I find usenet access. Without usenet access, I’ll post some TRs via emails to another ROFFian.

By the way, you can get a google account, based upon a hotmail account, and post to your hearts content.  It does take a few hours to catch up, google is not instant posting, but hey, its free access.  I am truely interested in the flies you use on hippos.  Goodluck on the Summer to Winter thing (once flew from Clark AB in the Philipines to Minot AFB, ND). — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.

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In a day or two, I’m off for the summer and I don’t know if or when I can get back to ROFF. The Czechs have a word for ‘pretrip anxiety/blues’ and although I cannot remember what it is, I certainly have it. Cutting the cord to this wacky group certainly doesn’t help. Tight Lines, and good summer (to the Northern Hemisphere folks) riverman

Enjoy your *Holiday*, and travel safely Riverman! Op

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In a day or two, I’m off for the summer and I don’t know if or when I can get back to ROFF. The Czechs have a word for ‘pretrip anxiety/blues’ and although I cannot remember what it is, I certainly have it. Cutting the cord to this wacky group certainly doesn’t help. Here in Riga, the days are currently 23 hours long, the weather clear and bright, and as you move northwards through Estonia and Finland (as some recent TRs have exposed), the trout/greyling fishing becomes world-class at this time of year. You can basically follow the ‘early spring’ conditions north to your hearts desire, and there are hundreds of thousands of spots to fish. And the women in this part of the world are the most beautiful anywhere I have ever been, and thats a lot of places. Stop you in your tracks beautiful. And at this moment, I have 3 months pay in my pocket, 11 weeks vacation, an apartment all rented, a solid 4WD truck, camping gear, fishing gear, and nothing on my datebook….except for a flight this sunday to Cape Town. South Africa. …..where its winter, dreary, days are 10 hours long, and trout streams are few, far between, and not heavily populated with fish. And its the off-season. Why am I doing this? Got to. Got important things to do in SA that will take time. Visas, shipments, travel arrangement to my next destination in Congo. Got a girlfriend to meet in 2 weeks, got a place to stay and friends to see. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to hook up with Ari Bert, maybe find an elusive trout or two. Possibly spend a few days dodging hippos and crocs on a river, we’ll see. Also have plans to do some surf casting on both coasts with different friends; a Professor Emeritus that I met in Kruger a few years back, and an Italian Chef that I know through my partner. Should be interesting. I don’t know if I’ll have newsgroup access in SA, or in Congo. If not, be assured I’ll be lurking via google.com, (someone say hello to me sometime; I’ll see it) and if possible, look forward to a progress report from the other side of the world once I find usenet access. Without usenet access, I’ll post some TRs via emails to another ROFFian. Take care, all, and its been great fun meeting you, both IRL (Stan, Jarmo, Charlie, Mike, Hermann, Marcel) and online (everyone else). Tight Lines, and good summer (to the Northern Hemisphere folks) riverman

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It used to be that bucket-shop rtw’s had all the flexibility of open y-class tickets – travel when you like, but don’t plan on adding new destinations you hadn’t originally ticketed. Now there are some being offered with more restrictions. Call around – the deals on the Internet sometimes are much less attractive than you can get out of the San francisco or LA Sunday travel sections. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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It used to be that bucket-shop rtw’s had all the flexibility of open y-class tickets – travel when you like, but don’t plan on adding new destinations you hadn’t originally ticketed. Now there are some being offered with more restrictions. Call around – the deals on the Internet sometimes are much less attractive than you can get out of the San francisco or LA Sunday travel sections. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s

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Take a look at http://www.airtreks.com I note that I have not booked through them, but have had discussions and we decided that my trips have not been long enough to warrant using their services.  Overall, I found them helpful and up-front about everything. Dave P.S.  I am not affiliated with AirTreks in anyway-just a consumer looking for the best deal.

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Sounds like great fun.  I rely on www.travelocity.com for some great air fares.  I find you can even beat these fares if you actually call the airlines and seek special deals.  Korean Air has been very competative lately and my experience with all non-american airlines has been exceptional.  By the way, I suggest you bring along a few disposable surgical tools.  Both the people and the animals are very poor and suffer with ailments that just a little doctoring will help.  I brought several pairs of drug store reading glasses because I loose or break them often.  I discovered many older people who need simple eye glasses but can’t get them. I will tell you — few joys on earth equal watching a man who has not read for 10 years suddenly be able to see again.  So little to us; so much to them. By the way, Indonesia has some great climbs to volcanos.  Rhinjani on Lombok in Indonesia is a 3 day trek up and over the rim of a huge volcano.  For about $200 per person you get a guide and 3 porters who set up camp.  Trip includes wonderful waterfalls and hot springs, plus your usual monkeys, and other exotic animals.  For the best treking, you will need a guide.  They are put out when you deny a couple extra men the job of carrying food and camping equipment.  Carry your own pack, but enjoy the pleasure of a nice tent and good meals at night. Also, be prepared to cross or travel in steam beds.  Sometimes the only way up a trail is by walking in a stream.  Sneakers are great.  Waterproof camera bags also recommended; so is a big bandana around your neck.  You’ll need both. Great traveling, Greg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are going on a backpacking excursion through SE Asia (Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, China, Brunei, Singapore) for about 6 months. We think that we would like to have a very open itinerary, i.e.-fly to Bangkok, get around however we see fit, and then fly home whenever we’ve had enough. Our options seem to be an open-jaw to a central place like Bangkok, or one of the around-the-world type flights (which may be too restrictive for us). We’re planning everything else well, but are having trouble deciding how to actually fly. Any help or ideas out there? There are so many bucket shops offering deals, it becomes overwhelming. Thanks for all the help we’ve recieved from this newsgroup! Kevin Oppenheimer, D.V.M. and Sandy Raders, D.V.M. To reply by email, please remove "NOSPAM" from address Once you go Mac, you’ll never go back. "The curious thing about fishing is that you never want to go home. If you catch something, you can’t stop. If you don’t catch anything, you hate to leave in case something might bite."

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We are going on a backpacking excursion through SE Asia (Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, China, Brunei, Singapore) for about 6 months. We think that we would like to have a very open itinerary, i.e.-fly to Bangkok, get around however we see fit, and then fly home whenever we’ve had enough. Our options seem to be an open-jaw to a central place like Bangkok, or one of the around-the-world type flights (which may be too restrictive for us). We’re planning everything else well, but are having trouble deciding how to actually fly. Any help or ideas out there? There are so many bucket shops offering deals, it becomes overwhelming. Thanks for all the help we’ve recieved from this newsgroup! Kevin Oppenheimer, D.V.M. and Sandy Raders, D.V.M. To reply by email, please remove "NOSPAM" from address Once you go Mac, you’ll never go back. "The curious thing about fishing is that you never want to go home. If you catch something, you can’t stop. If you don’t catch anything, you hate to leave in case something might bite."

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I am planning a fishing/4wheeling trip in the Deadwood area during the first week of Mar 99. Maps, guide, lodging, equipment suggestions, fly patterns, the works! If you can help, direct e-mail is preferable. ThanX

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See Feb 99 Fly Fisherman magazine, it has just what you’re looking for. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning a fishing/4wheeling trip in the Deadwood area during the first week of Mar 99. Maps, guide, lodging, equipment suggestions, fly patterns, the works! If you can help, direct e-mail is preferable. ThanX

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Thursday, October 30, 1997     5:49:06 AM I make a non-commercial site on Small Stream Flyfishing.  All areas of the discipline are covered.  The site has no banners and is chock full of information on Arizona and New Mexico streams.  Take a look, you might like it.  Don’t forget to sign the guest book. I am also looking for reports on Sage’s new 0-weight, if you have any experiences with it, can you post them on my page or here. adam Small Stream Flyfishing http://www.swlink.net/~hangwind

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I too am interested in any field/casting reports on the Sage 0 weight, as well as the Sage 1 weight, the East Branch 1 weight, and any other 1 weights out there (other than the Orvis).  Also, how do these rods compare to the Orvis 1 weight – does anybody know? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thursday, October 30, 1997     5:49:06 AM I am also looking for reports on Sage’s new 0-weight, if you have any experiences with it, can you post them on my page or here. adam Small Stream Flyfishing http://www.swlink.net/~hangwind

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My mother-in-law is moving to Superior, Montana (about sixty miles west of Missoula), and will be living right on the Clark Fork.  Am I right that this is a pretty good flyfishing river? (Please forgive my ignorance.) I figure that since I’ll be spending some time out there, I might as well take advantage of the fishing.  The thing is, though, I’ve never flyfished moving water and know very little about it. Years ago I used to do quite a bit of flyfishing in lakes in British Columbia, Canada.  And I used to tie all my own flies. I’d be obliged if someone might be able to answer a few questions for me regarding that stretch of river: First and foremost, what flies should I be tying and in what sizes? What kind of gear should I use?  (Double taper or weight forward line? Floating or sinking?  What weight?) Also, if anyone could recommed a book on flyfishing rivers and streams, particularly anything specific to Western Montana, I’d appreciate it. Thanks in advance for any help, Philip

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My mother-in-law is moving to Superior, Montana (about sixty miles west of Missoula), and will be living right on the Clark Fork.  Am I right that this is a pretty good flyfishing river? (Please forgive my ignorance.) I figure that since I’ll be spending some time out there, I might as well take advantage of the fishing.  The thing is, though, I’ve never flyfished moving water and know very little about it. Years ago I used to do quite a bit of flyfishing in lakes in British Columbia, Canada.  And I used to tie all my own flies. I’d be obliged if someone might be able to answer a few questions for me regarding that stretch of river: First and foremost, what flies should I be tying and in what sizes? What kind of gear should I use?  (Double taper or weight forward line? Floating or sinking?  What weight?) Also, if anyone could recommed a book on flyfishing rivers and streams, particularly anything specific to Western Montana, I’d appreciate it. Thanks in advance for any help, Philip

Yeah…it’s ok fishing.

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I told my wife that I was going fishing today and to have that god damned dinner done when I get home. TimW <g <seriously ….big <g <no kidding….it’s a joke, see… <I said laundry, not dinner… <g

So are you bringing a couple home for dinner? -burton — L. Burton Hawley           2330 NW Hummingbird Corvallis, OR

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I told my wife that I was going fishing today and to have that god damned dinner done when I get home. TimW <g <seriously ….big <g <no kidding….it’s a joke, see… <I said laundry, not dinner… <g

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I told my wife that I was going fishing today and to have that god damned dinner done when I get home. TimW

Hi Tim Your name is changing a lot and if you treat your wife as mentioned above you could end up ‘minus’ something special. My friend, do what I did, give her the hug she deserves. By the way, my valentine, Gretchen, say hello. Take care and … — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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I recently moved to a place where I’ve got some decent smallmouth fishing very close by.  Hooked a few before the cold set in, but I don’t feel like I have a sense of how to fish for them.  This river–the Fox, in northern Illinois–is fairly slow and shallow with

David     I have been flyfishing for Delaware River smallmouth for over thirty years and I am possessed  …. and you can find me wet wading ( I really hate waders) 4 to 5 days a week every week until the  water gets too damn cold to wade  ( ~ first week in October). My experience has been that if it is too cold to wet wade… the smallmouth are too cold to bite… You catch a few  but nothing like in warm water coditions. In fact I have had 60 fish days with the water temp in the mid 80’s during the day fishing the riffle areas…. and wet wading under these conditions is almost like sex. Sometimes you just lay in the rapids on your back and cast or swim /float from rock to rock….. Can’t do that with waders ! My favorite smallmouth fishing is late  May and then late summer when the caddis flies hatch. The smallies lign up in fairly shallow, not too swift water and dimple.. You can no way judge the size of the fish by it’s tiny dimple… You would swear you were trout spotting.. I tie all my own flies and have found the following work the best.  caddis flie imitations work well as well as muddlers but sometimes matching the hatch is necessary. During summer the fish like wooly buggers etc. better , except towards evening then go on top with pencil poppers , snaeky pete types ~ 1 1/2 long ( including tail). I tie my pencil poppers with Maribou tails because they have better action. . give it a go !                                                                            Jody

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David,     I would have to agree with Keith — Wooly Buggers seem to be my all around best producer.  I live between the Missisippi and Rum rivers north of Minneapolis, MN and fish the rivers regularly through the summer and early fall months.  I would add that I’ve had good success in late spring (and again in early fall) with frog patterns fished along the shore during their breeding migration.  Kind of like a midwestern version of splatting hoppers…. Zach

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Dave, I’m on the SW side of the Chicago burbs and fish the Kanakakee a lot. Clousers wna Woolies work well as does a SMALL crayfish pattern.  The Kank is not as flat bottomed as the Fox.  Haven’t fished the Fox much so I can’t really say – when I did I used Clousers and did well.  I, too, have been tying like crazy.  One pattern I use a lot also is a variant of the Thunder Creek series – I tie in an olive saddle hackle or two matuka style before adding the deer tail.  Gives a little more action and works well. Kevin

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Two quick comments: don’t stop tying Muddlers, best smallie fly I’ve ever used; when the weather turns colder, don’t be afraid to use big nymphs around ledges, rocks, weed edges etc. Paul Marriner

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently moved to a place where I’ve got some decent smallmouth fishing very close by.  Hooked a few before the cold set in, but I don’t feel like I have a sense of how to fish for them.  This river–the Fox, in northern Illinois–is fairly slow and shallow with a hard bottom.  The couple of times I was on it early in the fall I was fishing Clouser Minnows, cast across stream into the edge of a riffle, for instance, drifted and then swung, with a little action. Around bridge pilings, etc.  Worked okay, but you never know… I’ve been tying like crazy–too damn cold around here to do anything else–including a variety of muddlers that I plan on trying.  I’m hoping to hear some more from you smallmouth fanatics out there about fav patterns and especially techniques. How about it, you basstards? Cheers, David (freezing my butt section off in the midwest)

David, I fish for smallmouth on the Shenandoah and Potomac Rivers. Smallmouth are often found feeding right alongside trout in this area. They are primarily structure fish, and will hang near undercut banks, deeper pools, near rocks and logs, but move around during the course of the season. Here in Virginia in the spring they’re caught with Wooley Buggers, Clousers, and other streamer patters. They are in the heads of most of the pools with back currents, and they take the fly with an "electric" tug. As the water warms, they tend to cruise to the shallows in search of minnows and other food, then back to the faster water for security. The surface action takes off here in June, and lasts through August and early September. They love poppers, hoppers, damsel flies, terrestrials, and streamers through the summer months, although as the water level here drops and gets clear, they become VERY wary and you may need to lengthen the leader and approach them with stealth. In the fall they tend to get particular, and may go for steamers one day, and the next take nothing but poppers. They often move into tails of pools, hug the banks and hide under rocks and stumps. My favorite pattern for the fall is not a bass fly at all, but the Adams Irrisistable! It’s a killer here, and they seem to love it when they’ve seen one popper too many. They love dries. Once you’ve been bitten by the Smallie bug, it’s too late. They jump like hell and fight like mules. And they don’t stop fighting when you get them out of the water to try and set them free. Because of this I think they’re one of the toughest fish to handle and de-hook. I can’t wait for this cold weather to get out of here. I want to go fishing!!! Keith in Waterford, VA

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently moved to a place where I’ve got some decent smallmouth fishing very close by.  Hooked a few before the cold set in, but I don’t feel like I have a sense of how to fish for them.  This river–the Fox, in northern Illinois–is fairly slow and shallow with a hard bottom.  The couple of times I was on it early in the fall I was fishing Clouser Minnows, cast across stream into the edge of a riffle, for instance, drifted and then swung, with a little action. Around bridge pilings, etc.  Worked okay, but you never know… I’ve been tying like crazy–too damn cold around here to do anything else–including a variety of muddlers that I plan on trying.  I’m hoping to hear some more from you smallmouth fanatics out there about fav patterns and especially techniques.   How about it, you basstards? Cheers, David (freezing my butt section off in the midwest)

Try an off white wooly bugger tied on a size 2 long shank hook. if the fish are shallow don’t use any weight.  If they are deep tie in a little silver thread.  Adding a little green to the tail also works well. Rick.

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I recently moved to a place where I’ve got some decent smallmouth fishing very close by.  Hooked a few before the cold set in, but I don’t feel like I have a sense of how to fish for them.  This river–the Fox, in northern Illinois–is fairly slow and shallow with a hard bottom.  The couple of times I was on it early in the fall I was fishing Clouser Minnows, cast across stream into the edge of a riffle, for instance, drifted and then swung, with a little action. Around bridge pilings, etc.  Worked okay, but you never know… I’ve been tying like crazy–too damn cold around here to do anything else–including a variety of muddlers that I plan on trying.  I’m hoping to hear some more from you smallmouth fanatics out there about fav patterns and especially techniques.   How about it, you basstards? Cheers, David (freezing my butt section off in the midwest)

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<Snipped However; for sake of good order, our company tests fly lines from all around the world.  

George, Have you tested the new airflo delta taper lines ? If so I would realy like to hear your opinion on these lines. Cheers Bruce….

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

In talking to Lee Wulff at a sport show some years ago he advised cutting back the front taper on the line if you planed on using it for big (bass) flies. You might cut a foot at a time and then try it out. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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: _______BILL TELLS YOU STRAIGHT ARROW.  However; for sake of good order, : our company : tests fly lines from all around the world.  When inventing fly line : dressings, the : finishings, the casting abilities, multiple factors are studied all the : way to : putting them under microscopes too distance castings before and after : dressing them Sorry? I was under the impression the subject was TTs, oh well,  I suspect we’ll get to it eventually. BTW I would suggest, most, if not all dressing manufactureres do these tests. George Goes on: : I have known Lee and Joan Wulff personally for many years.  We have : always been very : strong and close aquaintences and friends.  Joan was here just this year : fly fishing : for steelhead.  All of this doesn’t mean much to you I know, so far. Damn right, except perhaps that you may have a slight bias.. George Goes on and on: : But I can : report to you the following facts. : : The Wulff Triangle Taper Fly Lines are produced under special design and : manufacturing : specifications just for the Lee Wulff Company by S.Anglers.  Scientific : Anglers cannot : sell the Lee Wulff Fly Lines to their customers and neither can they use : any of its : design advantages in any fly lines they manufacture. : All this sounds like a standard design/manufacturing procedure and licensing agreement to me. : It is my experience that the Lee Wulff Triangle Fly Lines are the finest : flying, farthest casting, most controllable fly lines made in the : world.  No one, and I mean, NO ONE makes : a finer designed fly line fo ease of casting, and honesty of delivery. : : In fact, my tests indicate that the Triangle Taper is really a : wonderfully over-designed Overdesigned? Wouldn’t have thought that possible except from a managerial viewpoint …"Hey, MichelAngelo, when are you going to make an end of it?" : fly line that engineering-wise, has a castability that exceeds the : strength of the finish : Scientific Anglers is able to come up with.  In short, the design is : years ahead of its : time.  Permit me to explain Jay.  I’ll try and make it short. …and its been "years ahead of its time" for the past five years. : : BECAUSE the Triangle casts so wonderfully, it is very easy to get : maximum line velocity and : fly line stretch built up . . . to the point, that if you don’t keep : this particular fly line  or ANY other Line : dressed and cared for with PZ Fly Line Dressing,   or any other decent fly line Dressing : you will overstretch "the stretchability" of : the Scientific Anglers coating and cause it to separate or crack right : where your fly line : normally exits the fly rod tip.  If you can restrain yourself and keep : your line speed within : limits and your fly line dressed and clean properly, you shouldn’t have : any problem.  I would add – with ANY decent line : : I’m telling you Jay.  When you want to reach out and touch someone (a : trout across a river) this baby will get you to the other side with one : false cast!   or you could wade/walk closer to minimise drag … just a suggestion. : : In conclusion; You couldn’t do any better.  It is the only fly line I : fish with.  It brings the ultimate joy into the lives of those who are : thrilled with the casting aspects of fly fishing. :   It does?  Sounds positively orgasmic, are you sure these things are   allowed  to be used in public? : Take care of this fly line and it will Never let you down.                        ^or ANY other decent line : : never.   until it wears out – like every line does eventually, – don’t they,   George? : : Sincerely, : : George Gehrke : Mr. Gink I have no argument with S.A or TTs, I just dislike spam. steve Melbourne, Australia. PS: Apologies to those offended by the use of the "O" word above.

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Yes I would agree with all who say it is a superb line.  My only complaint is they don’t last long efore cracking sets in.  Maybe One good season if I am lucky.  Anyone else find the same thing?

I’ve gotten great wear out of these lines by 1) cleaning them with a MILD soap and water and 2) redressing with Russ Peak’s line dressing.  I’ve not tried Gehrke’s.  Bill

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The British Airflow line using a polymer coating may be superior

in this respect only but falls short in a lot of other categories – or so sayeth the group.<< Airflo had a tremendous problem with line memory (coiling) some years back, but seem to have now overcome that problem. I tried a couple last year and was so pleased by them that now 6 of my 24 lines are AirFlo. Many others I know (over a dozen serious fly flingers) that have heard of how AirFlo worked hard to successfully overcome this problem have now started using them and all comments have been very positive.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Yes I would agree with all who say it is a superb line.  My only complaint is they don’t last long efore cracking sets in.  Maybe One good season if I am lucky.  Anyone else find the same thing? gp Jay Kidwell : Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks : like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR : ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about : it. — gp

George G. posted that the performance of the line exceeds the state of the art for line coatings – high line speed leads to wear. Incidentally I’ve complained of wear with conventional tapers herein as I only get about 2 seasons from a quality line. Most responded that my experience is about average. High modulus rods gave us high line speeds that gave us more friction and accelerated line wear. The British Airflow line using a polymer coating may be superior in this respect only but falls short in a lot of other categories – or so sayeth the group. I guess we need a break through in line coating technology. Ralph H

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Yes I would agree with all who say it is a superb line.  My only complaint is they don’t last long efore cracking sets in.  Maybe One good season if I am lucky.  Anyone else find the same thing? gp Jay Kidwell

: Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks : like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR : ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about : it. — gp

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

Yup!  I have a 2/3, 4/5 and 6/7.  They are great on the rods I use them for.  The rods are fast action rods so these lines load the rods nicely, cast like a dream, and roll cast fantastic.  I don’t use them exclusively, but like I said, they are great for the rods they are on. -Burton

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

I regularly fish with a TT5/6 on a 5wt. rod, casting #6 & #4 Dahlbergs and a TT8 Bonefish line on a 8wt., casting Dahlbergs up to #2/0 for Australian Bass. They make casting big air-resistant flies long distances easier because their long continuous tapers of up to 38′ allow you to false cast with alot more line in the air. The running line is also thinner than most WF lines and shoots better too. John Knight Sydney Fly Rodders Club    

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it. Jay, I’ve tried all manner of lines for Salmon/Steelhead and the TT is absolutely my favorite.  Smooth, powerful, perfect.  Bill

_______BILL TELLS YOU STRAIGHT ARROW.  However; for sake of good order, our company tests fly lines from all around the world.  When inventing fly line dressings, the finishings, the casting abilities, multiple factors are studied all the way to putting them under microscopes too distance castings before and after dressing them with GEHRKE’S PZ FLY LINE CLEANER &/or Dressing.  Rest assured, we have probably cast and tested almost every fly line being manufactured today at one time or another. I have known Lee and Joan Wulff personally for many years.  We have always been very strong and close aquaintences and friends.  Joan was here just this year fly fishing for steelhead.  All of this doesn’t mean much to you I know, so far. But I can report to you the following facts. The Wulff Triangle Taper Fly Lines are produced under special design and manufacturing specifications just for the Lee Wulff Company by S.Anglers.  Scientific Anglers cannot sell the Lee Wulff Fly Lines to their customers and neither can they use any of its design advantages in any fly lines they manufacture. It is my experience that the Lee Wulff Triangle Fly Lines are the finest flying, farthest casting, most controllable fly lines made in the world.  No one, and I mean, NO ONE makes a finer designed fly line fo ease of casting, and honesty of delivery. In fact, my tests indicate that the Triangle Taper is really a wonderfully over-designed fly line that engineering-wise, has a castability that exceeds the strength of the finish Scientific Anglers is able to come up with.  In short, the design is years ahead of its time.  Permit me to explain Jay.  I’ll try and make it short. BECAUSE the Triangle casts so wonderfully, it is very easy to get maximum line velocity and fly line stretch built up . . . to the point, that if you don’t keep this particular fly line dressed and cared for with PZ Fly Line Dressing, you will overstretch "the stretchability" of the Scientific Anglers coating and cause it to separate or crack right where your fly line normally exits the fly rod tip.  If you can restrain yourself and keep your line speed within limits and your fly line dressed and clean properly, you shouldn’t have any problem. I’m telling you Jay.  When you want to reach out and touch someone (a trout across a river) this baby will get you to the other side with one false cast! In conclusion; You couldn’t do any better.  It is the only fly line I fish with.  It brings the ultimate joy into the lives of those who are thrilled with the casting aspects of fly fishing. Take care of this fly line and it will Never let you down. never. Sincerely, George Gehrke Mr. Gink

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

I have used the Triangle Taper lines for years and they are the best casting lines I have ever encountered. Charlie…

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

Hi Jay, Great fly lines and unlike a lot of weight forward lines these are easier to roll cast because the first 40′(I think) is built like a double taper and after that it’s a weight forward. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

Jay, I’ve tried all manner of lines for Salmon/Steelhead and the TT is absolutely my favorite.  Smooth, powerful, perfect.  Bill

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it. Hi Jay, Great fly lines and unlike a lot of weight forward lines these are easier to roll cast because the first 40′(I think) is built like a double taper and after that it’s a weight forward. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

I believe the 1st 40 feet taper (ie get continuously thicker from the tip) in the standard models. Some models have 60 feet of taper.

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

I have used the TT lines for trout – the 5/6.  They are great lines and I enjoy casting them very much.  Yes, roll casting is easy.  The casting distance doesn’t really matter with this line.  I fish a spring creeek regularly and need to make a lot a tip casts – the leader may be twice the length than that of the fly line.  The line turn the leader over with no problem.  Also, beautiful loops at longer distances.  You may also want to look in Rio’s new lines.  I was talking with Jim Vincent and his new line sounds intriguing.  Say it has a #4 weight front taper and a #6 mid section(for a five weight).  It might make sense for casting larger flies while trying to tempt the bass. The name escapes me now and I am not the store, but if you read FR&R or FF, there is an ad in one of them.  TT has done me nothing but justice, and there bass line may have a heavier taper for larger flies. Clark H. Shafer LOst River Outfitters Ketchum, Idaho

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it. I have used the Triangle Taper lines for years and they are the best casting lines I have ever encountered. Charlie…

Ditto! A

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Question:

I have a South Bend bamboo 9′ rod( 2-tips) with only the markings of 57-9′ on it. Can anyone tell me what the 57 means and what weight the rod is. Thanks,

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I have a South Bend bamboo 9′ rod( 2-tips) with only the markings of 57-9′ on it. Can anyone tell me what the 57 means and what weight the rod is. Thanks,

From my limited knowledge, I belive the 57 refers to the rod’s taper and quality ranking within the South Bend family of rods. The 57 was a low to medium priced rod with South Bend’s Bass Action  (fast action). If there are no marking or decals on the rod itself (possibly removed in a prior refinish), its difficult to determine much more. — Visit Dave Teffeteller’s Fly Fishing Guides page http://www.olfart.com

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The "57" indicates that is, in-fact, a model 57 and the 9, well, you guessed it, it’s a 9 footer!  The 57 was a "bass action" rod and was at the low end of the South Bend line. With a little more info such as reelseat type, grip type, ferrule type and wrap color the date of the rod could be narrowed down a bit. Dave

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I have a South Bend bamboo 9′ rod( 2-tips) with only the markings of 57-9′ on it. Can anyone tell me what the 57 means and what weight the rod is. Thanks,

The "57" refers to the model number (Model 57).  I would guess that it would take a 7 or 8 weight line. –Rich

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In regards to the South Bend 57-9. It was their lowest quality level rod. It should cast a 7 or 8 weight line well and is worth about $50.00.

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In regards to the South Bend 57-9. It was their lowest quality level rod. It should cast a 7 or 8 weight line well and is worth about $50.00.

I have a 59 -9′ Southbend Bamboo Rod (was my Dad’s) /w Pfluger reel, I would like to restore it.  I have both tips.  some  snake guides are missing.   any info?????

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writes: In regards to the South Bend 57-9. It was their lowest quality level rod. It should cast a 7 or 8 weight line well and is worth about $50.00. I have a 59 -9′ Southbend Bamboo Rod (was my Dad’s) /w Pfluger reel, I would like to restore it.  I have both tips.  some  snake guides are missing.   any info?????

Buy a copy of Michael Sinclair’s "Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook" for $25.00 (US) – ISBN #1-882418-11-5 As for Snake guides, Try to find Perfection snakes, they’ll match the originals, but I’ve been told that Perfection has converted over to a new mfg. process and has had delivery problems. Order an Angler’s Workshop catalog for a good selection of silk thread, both Godebrod and YLI (sold as Angler’s brand). A.W. # — (360) 225-9445 Don B. PS – I’m looking for smaller size Perfection guides (smaller than #2’s) if anyone has them for sale – please e-mail me.

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     I just inherited a South Bend bamboo rod, rod #323, 9′ length. The rod has a cloth bag, and is a three-piece with an extra tip section.  Can anybody give me an idea how old the rod is, what the rod might be worth, and  what line weight might be best?     A couple of the ferrules are loose, but other than that everything seems fine.  Can I just epoxy the ferrules, or should I give the rod a more thorough refinishing? Ed Heist College Station, TX (140 miles northeast of one of several Guadalupe Rivers)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     I just inherited a South Bend bamboo rod, rod #323, 9′ length. The rod has a cloth bag, and is a three-piece with an extra tip section.  Can anybody give me an idea how old the rod is, what the rod might be worth, and  what line weight might be best?    A couple of the ferrules are loose, but other than that everything seems fine.  Can I just epoxy the ferrules, or should I give the rod a more thorough refinishing? Ed Heist College Station, TX (140 miles northeast of one of several Guadalupe Rivers)

Ed, Try this url:    http://www.gorp.com/bamboo.htm     Also, buy a copy of Michael Sinclair’s "Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook" a great book for do-it-yourself production bamboo rod restorations. If you try to remove the ferrules, look for small pins holding them on! Don

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We are planning a trip to Nova Scotia Aug. 17-25th.  We will be concentrating our time in the Guysbourough (sp?) area and heading over to Prince Edward Island for a few days.  We already have the stream map of NOva Scotia…are there any streams/rivers in the areas we’ll be traveling in that offer good fishing without guides?  WE are not interested in fishing solely for salmon but would like to fish for brook trout.  In addition, what are some good fly patterns to bring along. Finally, if anyone can recommend a lodge/bed and breakfast in the areawe would appreciate knowing about it.  Thank you in advance for any information.  Carolyn Mahan and Kurt Engstrom

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We are planning a trip to Nova Scotia Aug. 17-25th.  We will be concentrating our time in the Guysbourough (sp?) area and heading over to Prince Edward Island for a few days.  We already have the stream map of NOva Scotia…are there any streams/rivers in the areas we’ll be traveling in that offer good fishing without guides?  WE are not interested in fishing solely for salmon but would like to fish for brook trout.  In addition, what are some good fly patterns to bring along. Finally, if anyone can recommend a lodge/bed and breakfast in the areawe would appreciate knowing about it.  Thank you in advance for any information.  Carolyn Mahan and Kurt Engstrom

There are several interesting rivers in that area. the most notable is probably Salmon River just outside of town (Guysbourough) You will find Brown / Speckled trout and Atlantic Salmon there There is also the Country Harbour River nearby but you may be a bit late for it, however if things are slow……. You will also find on your map that you are not far from the St. Mary’s River one of the best salmon rivers in the province and worth a look over even if it is close to the season’s end by the time you are going to be in the area. I haven’t stayed in that area for many years and therfore cannot recommend a place to stay but the Dept of Tourism puts out a book called Where to Stay in Nova Scotia that will give lots of info. They will send you one for the asking                                 Hope you enjoy your trip                                         Geoff  _  / __  __  __/   _  / / /__  /_    __  /_      / /_/ /  _  /___   / /_/ / _  __/    _  __/      ____/   /_____/   ____/  /_/       /_/        http://highlander.cbnet.ns.ca/ Cape Breton Community Network Check it out !!

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We are planning a trip to Nova Scotia Aug. 17-25th.  We will be

Might consider contacting Dennis and Verlie Grant of the Atlantic Fly Fishing School,  902/67302590.  Denis is a FFF master caster and a really nice guy.  They run a small bed and breakfast, as well. Tell him I said hello.  Hope this helps.  David Lambert

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