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Kings Canyon National Park

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   It’s been a 20 year family tradition among my in-laws to go camping in the Cedar Grove area of Kings Canyon National Park at least once a year. This past Memorial Day weekend I headed up there on Thursday to secure a campsite while the rest of the family joined me on Friday evening.

Thanks Mu, nice report. I live less than a couple hours from this area, but have never fished it. I will now. Thanks again brians PS many miles downstream of the Upper Kings, so much water is diverted for irrigation, that it almost dries up to nothing.

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I live less than a couple hours from this area, but have never fished it. I will now.

The few fly anglers I met did say they caught fish too.  In 20 years of camping there my father-in-law told me he never saw anybody catching any fish.  A competent spin or bait angler should do very well but most people seem content to soak their bait at the bottom and wait for the fish to never come. Mu

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 Nice description, Mu.  I tend to think of CA as a place  where all of the free-flowing water of any significance  is long-gone, so I am always surprised by a report like  yours.

well once this water reaches the low lands, it is dammed for agriculture nad drinking water.

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nice report……nice to hear there is still an abundance of water…somewhere out there….   ;-) richard colorado . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    It’s been a 20 year family tradition among my in-laws to go camping in the Cedar Grove area of Kings Canyon National Park at least once a year. This past Memorial Day weekend I headed up there on Thursday to secure a campsite while the rest of the family joined me on Friday evening.    I did manage to fit in a whole day of fishing on Friday along with a few more hours on Sunday afternoon.  A foot of snow had been on the ground

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I loved the report… been thinking about heading up that way…

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Great report – thank you. Now I have to go again and take the main squeez. When I use to fish various forks of the Kings sometimes it would be a day before my hearing would come back. When the river use to run high we found fish in the smallest creeks and rivelets, they seemed to small to have fish but they did. . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  snipped most enjoyable report

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   It’s been a 20 year family tradition among my in-laws to go camping in the Cedar Grove area of Kings Canyon National Park at least once a year. This past Memorial Day weekend I headed up there on Thursday to secure a campsite while the rest of the family joined me on Friday evening.    I did manage to fit in a whole day of fishing on Friday along with a few more hours on Sunday afternoon.  A foot of snow had been on the ground in some portions of the park just a few days earlier, but it had melted by the time I arrived.    The temperature was unusually warm during the holiday weekend and the water levels were rising each day.  It is not unusual for blizzards to occur even in May in this particular national park, which John Muir had claimed matched Yosemite in grandeur and beauty.    The South Fork of the Kings River races through the Cedar Grove area year round.  I’ve been here in early September and even then this river is barely wadable.  Much of the river was a raging whitewater froth during my trip last month.  Even the tributaries looked angry enough to drown a whale.    The pools that are visible during low water periods were completely hidden under the plunging rapids.  I’d hate to even think about what this river would look like in May after a wet winter.    On Friday I drove to the Road’s End, a popular take-off point for backpackers and day hikers, located at the terminus of highway 180. Hiking in about 2 miles along the north side of the river took me to a bridge which crosses the South Fork where it is joined by Bubbs Creek.    I walked back towards Road’s End along the south side of the river until I came upon an area where the river split into several smaller side channels which were on the north side.  At this point I foolishly attempted to cross back over to the north side.  The water which looked about knee deep was actually waist deep.  Once I was past the knees however it was too late.  The river lifted me off my feet and I was headed towards the ocean.  With great difficulty I did manage to tiptoe to the other side about 30 yards downstream from where I had started. Fortunately, there were no deep pools in this area.  (Those new Chota STL studded wading boots are great!)    I fished the side channels and picked up a few dinky rainbows on a cinnamon caddis.  I did spot stonefly husks on some of the rocks but in general this river does not appear to be too fertile.  The insect activity seems to be predominantly of the caddis sort.  Sometimes, skittering my fly would trigger a strike.    Eventually I met up with the main river again.  Much of the fishing for these small and wild rainbows was quite easy.  Trying to find a place to fish where one could avoid drowning was not so easy.    Basically I’d scramble through the brush for about 20 minutes until I found a large boulder.  Several fish would be congregated there.  A poorly drifted nymph would almost definitely result in a hookup.  Sometimes, even a second fish could be lured out of a particular pocket of water.  But that was it.  Typically, after the first fish was caught, the rest of them would go hide under a rock.    The colors of these fish were brilliant and their eagerness was well appreciated by this angler.  I didn’t mind that they were small; I mean I could catch fish like these even locally here in southern Califronia. But the scenery in Kings Canyon really is spectacular.  After wearing out my welcome at one boulder, it was a 20 minute hike until I found another likely looking spot.  And that’s how the day went on for several more enjoyable hours.    Sunday afternoon I was walking around the area known as Zumwalt Meadow which is also near the vicinity of Road’s End.   I found an extremely large deadfall and for several yards, the water behind it almost appeared to be like a regular river instead of the South Fork.  It looked interesting so I decided to see what would happen to a #14 Parachute Adams.  In spite of the large downed tree, the water was still moving rather swiftly though this area and frequent mending was necessary.    What a surprise when I pulled out a feisty little jumping brown trout. I caught several more browns in that little run.  Unlike the rainbows in the pocket water, these fish did not spook after one of their brethren was hooked and flailing wildly in their vicinity.  Since National Parks are not stocked with fish, these must be the descendants of some browns that were introduced many decades ago.    All in all an enjoyable trip.  Good mix of fishing days and hiking days and lots of wood-fired steaks. Mu

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Montana Fly fishing Along I-15???

Montana Fly fishing Along I-15???

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I am a beginning fly fisher and am leaving soon for 2 weeks in Glacier NP.  I’ll be leaving So. Calif. and staying on I-15 until I hit Butte and then will be taking I-90 and then state 93 to Flathead Lake. Can anyone suggest a few places not too far from I-15 or I-90 or highway 93 that might offer me a taste of Montana stream fishing?  I have waders but no float tube. Bill W. in SoCal

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Can anyone suggest a few places not too far from I-15 or I-90 or highway 93 that might offer me a taste of Montana stream fishing?  I have waders but no float tube.

Try the Big Hole (off of I-15 south of Butte).

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Yes, at the town of Melrose. Try to stay below Divide as the water is really low and actually the upper river is closed due to low flow. See http://www.fwp.state.mt.us/drought/closures.asp . Also, from I-90, consider the upper Clark Fork near Warm Springs (refer to your fishing regs once you get here, there are some ponds and some river) and the Little Blackfoot near Garrison. Of course, there is always the Big Blackfoot and Rock Creek. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters Missoula, Montana www.diamondnoutfitters.com

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Reel Question

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I know this is not flyfishing related but I also know that there is a vast pool of knowledge here that is hard to find anywhere else. I purchased an Orvis 350 open faced spinning reel at an estate sale today. Can any of you fine posters let me know what I have, value, collectability etc. Thanks Cooper

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I know this is not flyfishing related but I also know that there is a vast pool of knowledge here that is hard to find anywhere else. I purchased an Orvis 350 open faced spinning reel at an estate sale today. Can any of you fine posters let me know what I have, value, collectability

You have an Orvis 350 open faced spinning reel. Get in touch with Dave LaCourse immediately. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Question about cruisers

Question about cruisers

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  A few slight differences of opinion, noted below. OK, I will try.  A sportfisherman will have a big cockpit, a transom door, and a stepped up entrance to the salon. Its helm will be in a position so that the captain can see the transom and the cockpit. Common fishing accessories would include a marlin or tuna tower, outriggers,  and cockpit controls.

  A fair description, but I might add that the cabin might be very small or nonexistent.  The emphasis is on fishing, not cabin. A Sedan has a bigger salon, and even a smaller cockpit than a convertible. 25 years ago the difference between a convertible and a sedan was the sedan had an enclosed salon with sliders or a sinlge door in the aft bulkhead; the convertible had an open salon with no aft bulkhead. All three styles, sportfisherman, sedan, and convertible, have a flybridge.

  My definition of a sedan is a bit different.  What I call a sedan they don’t seem to make anymore, but they used to be fairly common.  There is a style of boat that has a smaller cabin and larger elevated back deck area (higher because it is over the engine), with the helm in the forward most portion of the back deck area.  At least the forward portion of this deck would be enclosed, with glass windows, windshield wipers, etc.  It would not have a fly bridge.  A lot of the "classic" wood boats were built this way.   Older sedan models were often a displacement hull rather than a planing hull. An express cruiser has no flybridge!

  I would add that the helm station is rather exposed, often with little or no windshield. The boat is fairly low profile, making it fast and light, as well as a minimum of bridge clearance.  They are not good for foul weather, however, as their only helm station has no protection. Rod

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Hi, Peggie, I agree with the statements for the late seventies models but the late sixties early seventies had most of the engines for the Silvertons under the cock pit with the drives going under the entry. Most other Larz group boats did the about the same thing. Most of the sedans that we have in our area from that era have small salon access. A few with sliders but here in the Midwest, most Silvertons have the door and window option. — Regards and God Speed, Gary Gary W. Sandvik The magic is in the magician not the wand! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, My one exception is the difference between the sedan and convertible cockpits. Early sedan designs that I’ve seen Silverton, Trojan seem to have larger cockpits with smaller salon access. I dunno Gary, the Trojan F32 and F36, built from ‘73-91, all had wide sliding glass doors from the cockpit to the saloon. The early ’70s Eggs and Pacemakers had wood bulkheads with small doors, but the late ’70s forward also had big sliding glass doors. In fact, by the mid-’70s glass saloon aft bulkheads were pretty much standard on all of ‘em…’cuz inside lower helm stations in addition to the flying bridges begin to become popular. Circa late 60s’ too mid 70s’ seem to have this design aspect. This allowed a larger engine area below the cockpit to accomodate those HP to push those monster hulls. Again, I dunno…That might have been true of smaller single engine models, but the engines in every twin engine flybridge sedan/convertable/sportfisher I’ve seen–including mine–are beneath the saloon, not the cockpit. All that weight midship instead of aft certainly makes it easier to get on plane and hold it at lower RPMS…an something I consider a definite advantage over express style cruisers. Peggie  Hell my old 28′ Silverton SD FB, keel was at least 8" thick and about 3/4-1" at the gunnel. Even the transom was about 1/2 to 3/4" thick. Long before they knew anything about reducing the mass to save $$. Heck the guy who originally brought the Rock to Peoria told me stories about how he broke ice to get into the harbor. Another old river story but I’m sure he broke some ice somewhere. :-) But Capt, your descripts were good! — Regards and God Speed, Gary Gary W. Sandvik The magic is in the magician not the wand! OK, I will try.  A sportfisherman will have a big cockpit, a transom door, and a stepped up entrance to the salon. Its helm will be in a position so that the captain can see the transom and the cockpit. Common fishing accessories would include a marlin or tuna tower, outriggers,  and cockpit controls. A convertible is a boat that compromises between a "sedan" and a "sportfisherman". It will have a smaller cockpit, usually no stepped up entrance to the salon (more often than not "apartment door" sliders), and the helm will be in a more forward position. A Sedan has a bigger salon, and even a smaller cockpit than a convertible. 25 years ago the difference between a convertible and a sedan was the sedan had an enclosed salon with sliders or a sinlge door in the aft bulkhead; the convertible had an open salon with no aft bulkhead. All three styles, sportfisherman, sedan, and convertible, have a flybridge. An express cruiser has no flybridge! What do you say class, how did I do? Capt Lou of "Nautical Talk Radio" heard every Sunday morning 8 – 9 on WPRO 630AM serving Rhode Island and every Sunday afternoon from   4 – 5 on WATD 95.9FM serving Massachusetts.

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Hi, My one exception is the difference between the sedan and convertible cockpits. Early sedan designs that I’ve seen Silverton, Trojan seem to have larger cockpits with smaller salon access. Circa late 60s’ too mid 70s’ seem to have this design aspect. This allowed a larger engine area below the cockpit to accomodate those HP to push those monster hulls. Hell my old 28′ Silverton SD FB, keel was at least 8" thick and about 3/4-1" at the gunnel. Even the transom was about 1/2 to 3/4" thick. Long before they knew anything about reducing the mass to save $$. Heck the guy who originally brought the Rock to Peoria told me stories about how he broke ice to get into the harbor. Another old river story but I’m sure he broke some ice somewhere. :-) But Capt, your descripts were good! — Regards and God Speed, Gary Gary W. Sandvik The magic is in the magician not the wand!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, I will try.  A sportfisherman will have a big cockpit, a transom door, and a stepped up entrance to the salon. Its helm will be in a position so that the captain can see the transom and the cockpit. Common fishing accessories would include a marlin or tuna tower, outriggers,  and cockpit controls. A convertible is a boat that compromises between a "sedan" and a "sportfisherman". It will have a smaller cockpit, usually no stepped up entrance to the salon (more often than not "apartment door" sliders), and the helm will be in a more forward position. A Sedan has a bigger salon, and even a smaller cockpit than a convertible. 25 years ago the difference between a convertible and a sedan was the sedan had an enclosed salon with sliders or a sinlge door in the aft bulkhead; the convertible had an open salon with no aft bulkhead. All three styles, sportfisherman, sedan, and convertible, have a flybridge. An express cruiser has no flybridge! What do you say class, how did I do? Capt Lou of "Nautical Talk Radio" heard every Sunday morning 8 – 9 on WPRO 630AM serving Rhode Island and every Sunday afternoon from   4 – 5 on WATD 95.9FM serving Massachusetts.

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Thank’s for the help.   On a day like this,  when the sleet is falling atop the five inches of snow we just got – I sometimes go to yachtworld,com boats for sale and just dream of  boat twice the length of mine.   Now I have a much better idea what I’m looking at. Alan

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Lefty's Library

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi everyone,    I just received in the mail the chance to order Lefty’s Little Library of Fly Fishing.  Has anyone seen these books?  Or read them?  I am very interested in hearing your opinion.  I think I am going to order them but still wanted some ROFF thoughts.  Thanks. J. Koop McMinnville, OR.   </PRE</HTML

I’ve got the whole library. I’ve read them all. Most are pretty good. Some are very good. Some are so-so. I think it’s worth the price. They are easy to buy one book at a time. Good Luck! Joel Axelrad

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Ditto                     Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve got the whole library. I’ve read them all. Most are pretty good. Some are very good. Some are so-so. I think it’s worth the price. They are easy to buy one book at a time. Good Luck! Joel Axelrad

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I sent the bone fishing book back ’cause I figured if this old body gets down there it will be some one spreading my ashes on the water.  Got all the rest though and some pretty good words of wisdom.  I really love the tips and tricks book.                                     Frank Reid

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ditto                     Frank Reid I’ve got the whole library. I’ve read them all. Most are pretty good. Some are very good. Some are so-so. I think it’s worth the price. They are easy to buy one book at a time. Good Luck! Joel Axelrad

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I’m a stream and lake trout fisher.  I purchased and kept the first 10 or so books and then cancelled the subscription because I noticed the books were changing to fishing styles I don’t need. As for reading the books, I’m saving that for retirement.  I’ve got the collection on the book shelf of my retirement home that I hope to occupy full time in about 4 years. Bob

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Hi everyone,         I just received in the mail the chance to order Lefty’s Little Library of Fly Fishing.  Has anyone seen these books?  Or read them?  I am very interested in hearing your opinion.  I think I am going to order them but still wanted  some ROFF thoughts.  Thanks. J. Koop McMinnville, OR.  

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » stocked trout flys

stocked trout flys

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Hi,  whats a good fly for stocked rainbow trout in a small lake about 15 feet deep? I’d appreciate any info I can get.  Thanx.

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Where would i find some information on this fly at? do you have a picture of it?  Thanx.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,  whats a good fly for stocked rainbow trout in a small lake about 15 feet deep? I’d appreciate any info I can get.  Thanx. Niblet Fly ought to do it…

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Hi,  whats a good fly for stocked rainbow trout in a small lake about 15 feet deep? I’d appreciate any info I can get.  Thanx.

Niblet Fly ought to do it…

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are you fishing the surface or subsurface, I like to use floatant on hares ear nymphs and strip it in the surface film  or use beadheads subsurface. Good dry’s are ones that can be skimmed over the surface without sinking or twisting the line, caddis drys are good as are renagades. Bushy wulffs are great for sight and for trout that will pounce on whatever they see. Wolly buggers are a favorite for many, I would use small patterns w/ black being a common color. Many use a bushy dry fly w/ a small nymph dropper usually a midge larva or or smalll beadhead 16-20.  this can be real fun the fish may be attracted by the dry but hit the dropper, just use a foot or two of 5 or 6x tippet and thie it directly to the bend of the bushy dry patterns hook, just make sure you check for breaking stregnth. The dry is a strike indicator for the nymph but this will tell you just how active the fish are toward big drys. If you get no hits on the dry change it if none on the nymph change that it can take out some of the problem solving on what they want because lets face it stockers can be fussy too.  : ]        

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Niblet Fly ought to do it…

ROFLOL! bc.

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aka the Golden Terrestrial. Steve Zimmerman

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need help putting a $ on a fly rod

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hello all.  I need some help. A few years back my mother bought me a fly rod at a yard sale. it is a hand crafted 6 sided bamboo fly rod.  it is all stamped " made in occupied japan" some one told my father that it was worth any where from $1,000 – $10,000 depending on the condition of it. I have a couple pictures of it.  drop me an e-mail if you would like to see them.  thanks. any information on it would be greatly appreciated. please e-mail me with any info.

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cdragon Japanese bamboo rods are low cost rods, you can probably get $50 to $75 on eBay. Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hello all.  I need some help. A few years back my mother bought me a fly rod at a yard sale. it is a hand crafted 6 sided bamboo fly rod.  it is all stamped " made in occupied japan" some one told my father that it was worth any where from $1,000 – $10,000 depending on the condition of it. I have a couple pictures of it.  drop me an e-mail if you would like to see them.  thanks. any information on it would be greatly appreciated. please e-mail me with any info.

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writes: hello all.  I need some help. A few years back my mother bought me a fly rod at a yard sale. it is a hand crafted 6 sided bamboo fly rod.  it is all stamped " made in occupied japan" some one told my father that it was worth any where from $1,000 – $10,000 depending on the condition of it.

They lied to your father, some handcrafted bamboo fly rods are worth in excess of $1,000 with rare Gillum, Dickerson or Garrison rods going in excess of $10K. Unfortunately for you,  yours is one of the mass produced models that came from asia post WWII. Depending on the buyer and their level of knowledge perhaps $10 – $250 if you find a sucker. Sorry if this sounds rough to you. Now if it was a Garrison, Dickerson or a Gillum….. For verification of what I say you can check www.gorp.com/bamboo.htm http://home1.gte.net/jfoster/ http://flyfishing.miningco.com/msub13.htm http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/ronsrods/index.html Wayne Knight (remove nospam to respond via mail) Expert in the creation of  wind knots and tailing loops.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Pickerel on fly?

Pickerel on fly?

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They will maul rabbit strip flies that act like sluggos–tubers and sluggo flies and double-bunnies–as well as buck-n-bunnies.  I’d keep my dahlbergs for something a bit less toothy. We catch a lot of pickerel on flies here even after the hardware anglers have been through because the neutral-bouyancy fly seems to bring them on.  Good luck. d

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I’m brand new to fly-fishing, so I’ve only been lurking at this ng for a month or so (hadda wait for Jon Ernst to leave before I even *dared* make a post).  Anyway, I live right by a nasty little pond in Northern Florida, said pond dominated by some pretty large chain pickerel and Florida gar.  I’m very interested in tangling with these thugs, so I’m looking for some recommendations on the type of fly I should use, as well as sage words about leaders/tippets.  

In one of his books, John Geirach writes about catching gar on flyrods. Apparently, some guys make "flies" made up of frayed out pieces of nylon rope – no hooks!  It seems that you can’t "hook" a gar – their jaws are too bony.  If they strike the frayed rope, it will tangle around their teeth and you can haul them in.  What you do after you haul them in, I can’t say.  I actually tried this in the Outer Banks (yes, their are gar there) but I didn’t get any strikes.  Oh, well, John didn’t catch any either.

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Try Dalberg Divers. I’m brand new to fly-fishing, so I’ve only been lurking at this ng for a month or so (hadda wait for Jon Ernst to leave before I even *dared* make a post).  Anyway, I live right by a nasty little pond in Northern Florida, said pond dominated by some pretty large chain pickerel and Florida gar.  I’m very interested in tangling with these thugs, so I’m looking for some recommendations on the type of fly I should use, as well as sage words about leaders/tippets.  

Divers would probably be as good as anything – and just about anything *large* would probably work. While actually fishing for smallies, I’ve caught pickerel on everything from wool headed rabbits to deer hair mice. With them damn gar around, a bite guard of some kind would probably be warranted. 100 pound Mason, or even plastic coated stranded stainless wire might be a good idea – if you want to get through the day without losing too many of those large flies… Cheers! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.               Alpha Server Engineering < < Parker Street Campus                      Maynard, Massachusetts < < !!NOTE: Remove the "XX" from my address to respond by email!!  < <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AMA 548313 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely to be                     shared by my employer, etc…

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Try Dalberg Divers. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Howdy, I’m brand new to fly-fishing, so I’ve only been lurking at this ng for a month or so (hadda wait for Jon Ernst to leave before I even *dared* make a post).  Anyway, I live right by a nasty little pond in Northern Florida, said pond dominated by some pretty large chain pickerel and Florida gar.  I’m very interested in tangling with these thugs, so I’m looking for some recommendations on the type of fly I should use, as well as sage words about leaders/tippets.   TIA, Mark to reply, remove "killuce" from address.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Howdy, I’m brand new to fly-fishing, so I’ve only been lurking at this ng for a month or so (hadda wait for Jon Ernst to leave before I even *dared* make a post).  Anyway, I live right by a nasty little pond in Northern Florida, said pond dominated by some pretty large chain pickerel and Florida gar.  I’m very interested in tangling with these thugs, so I’m looking for some recommendations on the type of fly I should use, as well as sage words about leaders/tippets.   TIA, Mark to reply, remove "killuce" from address.

Used to catch all kinds of pickerel all kinds of ways as a kid, including on fly.  I don’t think there is anything they won’t hit.  Try a Wooly Bugger or a bass  popper.  Use about 30 pound clear mono for a bite guard (stay away from wire, they won’t hit) and don’t be afraid to move it around a bit. Good Luck — Gordon Churchill Flyfish NC http://www.planet-nc.com/flyfishnc/ Striped Bass on the Roanoke River, Hybrids on Jordan Lake, Largemouths on surface.  Pickup and dropoff in Research Triangle Park

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Howdy, I’m brand new to fly-fishing, so I’ve only been lurking at this ng for a month or so (hadda wait for Jon Ernst to leave before I even *dared* make a post).  Anyway, I live right by a nasty little pond in Northern Florida, said pond dominated by some pretty large chain pickerel and Florida gar.  I’m very interested in tangling with these thugs, so I’m looking for some recommendations on the type of fly I should use, as well as sage words about leaders/tippets.   TIA, Mark to reply, remove "killuce" from address.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Backing Capacity

Backing Capacity

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Jess writes: Hello I am going to try flyfishing for stripers here in OK. this spring and I am wondering if I really need a reel with a 200 yd backing capacity ? It seems your tippet would break just from the resistance of the flyline in the water.

                                                                 Thanks                                                                    Jess Jess, you are correct.  ~~150 yards ought to do it…. I’ve had fish go " over the hill" of a rapid and take more than this, but don’t recall landing any of them.  In open water, chase ‘em, in a river, finesse is better. A common method is to let the line go completely slack, the fish will then swim upstream back to you…  Have fun… Alan E. Hoover Anglers’ Rest Powhatan, Va        *the trout teach many, lessons*

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Hello I am going to try flyfishing for stripers here in OK. this spring and I am wondering if I really need a reel with a 200 yd backing capacity ? It seems your tippet would break just from the resistance of the flyline in the water.                                                                  Thanks                                                                    Jess

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Are There Fish In Pittsburgh,PA?

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I was wondering if anyone could help. I will be in Pittsburgh for five days during Oct.16-20. Is there anywhere near there that I could wet a line? If there are any small rivers that I could fly-fish,please let me know! I need to do something after some boring seminars! Thanks in advance! ED My Thoughts Are My Own!

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Quoting mckernane from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing     I was wondering if anyone could help. I will be in Pittsburgh for    five days during Oct.16-20. Is there anywhere near there that I could    wet a line? If there are any small rivers that I could fly-fish,please    let me know! I need to do something after some boring seminars!     Thanks in advance!     ED Howdy Ed,  I’m in Eastern Pa, so can’t help you in the Pburg area, but we have a guy on Delphi who lives there.  He hangs out in our fishing forum, and is a Bass Club member as I am.         If you would like to E-Mail to him His address is and he signs "East Pittsburg Red".  I don’t know if he fly fishes, but he does go with spinners for trout. Have a safe and fun Vist to Pa.  TTYL – good luck and good fish.  `[1;35;40m This from — The `[1;5;33;40mBassAgitator  `[1;35;40m Fred in Pa. — Glad to be here — :-) Rainbow V 1.01 for Delphi

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