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So you’re saying their marketing guys times their product release just right???  ;-)  Impressive. On a more serious note, are the Simms Guide weights worth the money?  I’ve been using a pair of Reddingtons and a pair of (yeah, I know, gasp!) Orvis green mountain breathables for the past couple of years (both are essentially the same but the Reddingtons seem to be put together a little better).  Both have held up to a lot of hard fishing but they are both dying at the same time (I actually alternate use on a trip by trip basis).  How resistant are they to brambles and the occasional pricker bush?  My 2 pair are covered with shiny gobs of Sun Seal goo.  Actually that’s my only complaint considering they only cost $99 apiece. —

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| | cabelas | | OK. I’ve only used Patagonia and Simms, so I wouldn’t know. | | | Elitist. | | Here’s what really pisses me off. | | This year my Simms Guide Weight waders gave up the ghost. I’m not | complaining about that — they had three years of extremely hard use. | The main problem was that the neoprene feet blew out. Too much hiking, I | guess. | | So, I sent them back to Simms to be repaired, and in the meantime, so | I’d have waders to use, I bought another pair. Now I have a nearly new | pair and a reconditioned pair that are nearly as good as new. | | I figured I was all set, but then Simms came out with a totally | redesigned model with the features I’ve been begging them for — | built-in gravel guards, belt loops, and even a hand warmer! Arrrrggghhh! |

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So you’re saying their marketing guys times their product release just right???  ;-)  Impressive.

Yep. They’re waiting for me to make my move.

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What bugs me about the waders is that I now have about four of five years worth of waders, which I definitely WILL use, but the model I really want has just come out. It’s not like I’m going to run out and buy a new pair.

steve, when you see, touch, and wear a pair, my bet is you will. the new simms G3 waders are worth every penny ….. all 42,250 of em…. every dang cent. any one who is foolish enough to argue with that statement, well, he’s a fool and has blue balls to boot. the best wader on the planet, by far, hands down, is just a few weeks away… i pity the poor bastards wearing cab…., hodg…., orv…, redd……. and such…. whilst i’m fresh and warm as a muffin fresh out of the toaster, yer freezin yer jewels off… poor bastards. get real, get smart, buy simms. i ain’t cuttin’ no slack on this issue nor am i trying to drum up business…. experience. any one who believes otherwise, is daft, a communist, and can’t fish worth a fiddlers fuk, imho. Tight Lines, and MERRY CHRISTMAS all….. ;^) –Walt Fly Fishing NC & more… http://www.ezflyfish.com http://www.wilsoncreekoutfitters.com

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<snipped ezflyfish spam <G Tight Lines, and MERRY CHRISTMAS all….. ;^)

Oh, SURE. Throw THAT in at the end! — TL, Tim Same to you, BTW.

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  steve, when you see, touch, and wear a pair, my bet is you will. the new simms G3 waders are worth every penny ….. all 42,250 of em…. every dang cent. any one who is foolish enough to argue with that statement, well, he’s a fool and has blue balls to boot.

No way. I’m all wadered up for years to come. Fuck the built-in gravel guards, the belt loops, AND the frigging hand warmer.

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Isn’t this reason enough to stay w/ the 101? Unless you want the newst-baddest toys, that is. In spite of all the bells & whistles on the newer models, my SRT’s are still giving me fine photos. And "upgrading" a collection of lenses from 24mm – 1250mm just to stay current w/ the newer bodies would cost a small fortune. And I’m reasonably sure I wouldn’t be actually shooting any better.

I have to say I’m shooting much better now.  It’s so much nicer to be able to: 1)   change ASA without losing film, 2)  Check a picture and see if it needs to be reshot. 3)  set the white balance without needing extra filters. 4)  Have an auto exposure that works right 99% of the time. 5)  Have a motor drive. 6)  Not have to wait for a processing lab. 7)  Have a 28-200 zoom that’s beautiful throughout it’s range. Though there are adapters for the old lenses, they don’t provide the new features to those lenses. The only disadvantage is that slides are tough and expensive to make. Chas

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No way. I’m all wadered up for years to come. Fuck the built-in gravel guards, the belt loops, AND the frigging hand warmer.

i’m also wadered up steve…. *but*, a man has to field test new product, donchaknow. i’ve only worn a sample in the store as of now. it was very comfortable and i liked the way simms designed the legs…. they seem to be "fitted". in all honesty, the guide pant model will probably still be my wader of choice. the chicks dig ‘em. stay warm, –walt…… ps, you forgot to mention the built in Flip-out Tippet Tender Pocket, including a built-in retractor <g

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And you’re complaining about people buying *other* people presents for Christmas ! You missed the point, Greg. I must not have made myself clear. What I object to about Christmas presents is that so many of gifts are actually unwanted and unused. It’s the wastefulness that bothers me.  I understood you and was half-joking.  I agree with you re  Christmas presents & I get completely turned off every time  I wander out to a store at this time of the year.  At the same  time, I know that I have more than I need of various things.  When I really think about it, I don’t see much difference  between buying something that is "useless" as opposed to  buying something that I might actually use but I could easily  do without because I already own enough to do the same  thing without yet another one.

When you send your only pair of waders back to Simms for repair in the middle of the fishing season, expecting them to return in no less than several weeks, you NEED another pair. — 2003 ROFF calendar: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ROFF/calendar/2003/start.html

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 I have a portfolio of excuses along similar lines  (well, if the backup to the backup breaks, I need  another one to cover it…), tho I have to admit  that yours sounds a bit more compellling  :-)

There are only so many things to do in Stanley when you aren’t gainfully employed, Greg. During fishing season, it’s fishing. During hunting season, it’s hunting. During skiing season, it’s skiing. Of course, there’s also drinking and carousing, but that takes place mostly in the evenings. I must confess, however, to buying a new pair of Simms lightweight boots (with removeable studs) when I bought my new waders — one of the best purchases I’ve ever made, even though, strictly speaking, they were unnecessary. — 2003 ROFF calendar: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ROFF/calendar/2003/start.html

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I must confess, however, to buying a new pair of Simms lightweight boots (with removeable studs) when I bought my new waders — one of the best purchases I’ve ever made, even though, strictly speaking, they were unnecessary.

have you used the studs yet steve? if so, how do they grip? i’ve resisted installing the studs until PA, where they will be needed on those dastardly rocks. what i like about them is, well, they live up to their name… lightweight. wally, never met a unnecessary ff item <g

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I must confess, however, to buying a new pair of Simms lightweight boots (with removeable studs) when I bought my new waders — one of the best purchases I’ve ever made, even though, strictly speaking, they were unnecessary. have you used the studs yet steve? if so, how do they grip?

Yes, I have. And yes, they do, but not as well as carbide studs. I removed them at the HF Clave so I wouldn’t mess up John Hightower’s beautiful self-made wooden drift boat. I’m hoping I can find them again. — 2003 ROFF calendar: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ROFF/calendar/2003/start.html

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– I am looking at purchasing a Nikon N80 or a Canon Elan E7.   Any comments on which is better?  I am not trying to stir anything up..  I have posted to rec.photo 35mm but the newsgroup is not very active.  I have followed this newsgroup for a long time and know that many here are avid photographers here.  I have been to my local camera shop to look at the Nikon and ended up looking at the Canon as well. Both seem to be nice AF cameras.  Any other recommendations in this price range? Keith

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The group you want to query is rec.photo.equ9ipment.35mm.  BUT, (and I mean BUT) before you post this question to that group go to Google and do a search for the N80 and E7.  This topic has been discussed in detail so posting the question will probably get a few posts that resemble flames. Personally I’ve been a Nikon guy for the last 20 years.  I upgraded from an FM to a N90s a few years ago.  Nikon recently end-of-life’d the N90 line but I’d recommend it over the N80.  The construction is metal vs plastic in the N80 and it has a few more bells and whistles (i.e. higher flash sync speeds).  But the N80 is still a great camera at the high end of the non-pro ranks.  Since it is not produced any longer you may be able to find one that has been marked down.  Nikon is still servicing them and the warrantee is pretty good. Check out www.bhphotvideo.com  - great mail order place with a great reputation.  I buy most of my stuff from them.  If you live in the area or find yourself in NYC check out their store on 9th and 34th.  It’s huge and stocked with helpful sales people (FYI – they close Friday at 1 PM and reopen on Sunday). —

| | | — | | I am looking at purchasing a Nikon N80 or a Canon Elan E7.   Any comments on | which is | better?  I am not trying to stir anything up..  I have posted to rec.photo | 35mm but the newsgroup is not very active.  I have followed this newsgroup | for a long time and know that many here are avid photographers here.  I have | been to my local | camera shop to look at the Nikon and ended up looking at the Canon as well. | Both seem to be nice AF cameras.  Any other recommendations in this price | range? | | Keith | | |

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Sorry, fingers slipped – the group is rec.photo.equipment.35mm —

| | | — | | I am looking at purchasing a Nikon N80 or a Canon Elan E7.   Any comments on | which is | better?  I am not trying to stir anything up..  I have posted to rec.photo | 35mm but the newsgroup is not very active.  I have followed this newsgroup | for a long time and know that many here are avid photographers here.  I have | been to my local | camera shop to look at the Nikon and ended up looking at the Canon as well. | Both seem to be nice AF cameras.  Any other recommendations in this price | range? | | Keith | | |

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The group you want to query is rec.photo.equ9ipment.35mm.  BUT, (and I mean BUT) before you post this question to that group go to Google and do a search for the N80 and E7.  This topic has been discussed in detail so posting the question will probably get a few posts that resemble flames.

What are the best breathable waders for the money? Does anyone have an opinion about the Cabela’s Three Forks 3wt? Is fluorocarbon worth it? What weight rod should I get? Is bobber fishing unethical? How about C&R? Do Eastern Claves have more camraderie than Western Claves? What is a Clave, anyway?

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The group you want to query is rec.photo.equ9ipment.35mm.  BUT, (and I mean BUT) before you post this question to that group go to Google and do a search for the N80 and E7.  This topic has been discussed in detail so posting the question will probably get a few posts that resemble flames. What are the best breathable waders for the money? Does anyone have an opinion about the Cabela’s Three Forks 3wt? Is fluorocarbon worth it? What weight rod should I get? Is bobber fishing unethical? How about C&R? Do Eastern Claves have more camraderie than Western Claves? What is a Clave, anyway?

cabelas no no 4 yes and no see above definitely camaraderie backatcha, big fella — TL, Tim

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What are the best breathable waders for the money? Does anyone have an opinion about the Cabela’s Three Forks 3wt? Is fluorocarbon worth it? What weight rod should I get? Is bobber fishing unethical? How about C&R? Do Eastern Claves have more camraderie than Western Claves? What is a Clave, anyway? cabelas

OK. I’ve only used Patagonia and Simms, so I wouldn’t know. no

Wrong. I do. So do quite a number of others. no

OK 4

5 yes and no

yes see above

see above definitely

Are you speaking from personal experience, or hearsay? camaraderie

OK

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— I am looking at purchasing a Nikon N80 or a Canon Elan E7.   Any comments on which is better?

"Better" is perhaps in beholder’s eye. Both brands are of high repute; perhaps using criteria based on the sorts of potography you’ll do most would aid in selecting. Any quality 35mm SLR will give many years of service if treated well. (Happens I have 2 Minoltas which are 20+ years & going strong.) I don’t think you’d be disappointed in either the Nikon or the Canon. Yours in the north Maine woods, Pete Hilton aka The Ent — Anything is possible but not everything is easy.   B. Gray

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I am looking at purchasing a Nikon N80 or a Canon Elan E7.  

…snip… I’d consider what you’ll want when you go digital.  The lenses are interchangable on Nikon from their old stuff to the newest. I just bought a Nikon D100 digital, and I’m delighted with it.  My old camera is a Minolta SRT201 that’s nearly 30 years old and still works fine.   Since my old lenses are worthless on the newer Minoltas, there was no reason to stay with Minolta. Chas

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 My old camera is a Minolta SRT201 that’s nearly 30 years old and still works fine. Since my old lenses are worthless on the newer Minoltas, there was no reason to stay with Minolta. Chas

Isn’t this reason enough to stay w/ the 101? Unless you want the newst-baddest toys, that is. In spite of all the bells & whistles on the newer models, my SRT’s are still giving me fine photos. And "upgrading" a collection of lenses from 24mm – 1250mm just to stay current w/ the newer bodies would cost a small fortune. And I’m reasonably sure I wouldn’t be actually shooting any better. Pete — Anything is possible but not everything is easy.   B. Gray

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  My old camera is a Minolta SRT201 that’s nearly 30 years old and still works fine. Since my old lenses are worthless on the newer Minoltas,

An afterthought: there are adapters for some of the Rokkor lenses to allow them to be used on some Maxxum bodies. Pete — Anything is possible but not everything is easy.   B. Gray

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cabelas OK. I’ve only used Patagonia and Simms, so I wouldn’t know.

Elitist. definitely Are you speaking from personal experience, or hearsay?

hearsay, absolutely camaraderie OK

YEA! I got one right! — TL, Tim and just in case,  :)  :)  and especially, ;-^)

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cabelas OK. I’ve only used Patagonia and Simms, so I wouldn’t know. Elitist.

Here’s what really pisses me off. This year my Simms Guide Weight waders gave up the ghost. I’m not complaining about that — they had three years of extremely hard use. The main problem was that the neoprene feet blew out. Too much hiking, I guess. So, I sent them back to Simms to be repaired, and in the meantime, so I’d have waders to use, I bought another pair. Now I have a nearly new pair and a reconditioned pair that are nearly as good as new. I figured I was all set, but then Simms came out with a totally redesigned model with the features I’ve been begging them for — built-in gravel guards, belt loops, and even a hand warmer! Arrrrggghhh!

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I figured I was all set, but then Simms came out with a totally redesigned model with the features I’ve been begging them for — built-in gravel guards, belt loops, and even a hand warmer!

Arrrrggghhh! If it will help, you can send a pair or two to me. Just trying to be helpful. . . — TL, Tim

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 And you’re complaining about people buying *other* people  presents for Christmas !

You missed the point, Greg. I must not have made myself clear. What I object to about Christmas presents is that so many of gifts are actually unwanted and unused. It’s the wastefulness that bothers me. What bugs me about the waders is that I now have about four of five years worth of waders, which I definitely WILL use, but the model I really want has just come out. It’s not like I’m going to run out and buy a new pair.

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I was in Wisconsin this past weekend doing allot of fishing with a buddy of mine. We started out on Fenner Lake at his cabin casting into lily pads and weedbeds for bass on Friday night. They were attacking my Dahlberg Diver but nothing of any substantial size was interested, just the little guys. They were allot of fun though. I’ll ask forgiveness now, I can’t recall any of the stream name, my friend was playing guide but the conditions were about the same on all the streams in the area. On Saturday we went to a little brook trout stream by his cabin and each landed one, but the fishing was real slow. The water was crystal clear and even 6x leaders were spooking them. We had to do allot of hanging over tall grasses and just dipping nymphs in to avoid spooking them. Later that day we hit another stream that was a bit wider and slower. The conditions were the same though. I managed to get one small brown but everything was getting spooked very easily. That evening we went back to the lake to go after pike. I was casting this monstrous streamer that was my buddies concoction. It was basically allot of orange and black fish hair with huge weighted eyes. We were casting to weedbeds right on drop offs. After about 50 casts I had a take, never having fished for pike on purpose the take caught me by surprise. Especially after swinging a 9wt around with that huge fly. I was slightly spellbound and pulled the rod tip up like I was catching a small trout, basically I didn’t set the hook. We saw his side as he turned on the fly. He looked pretty big but was only on for a minute. He’ll turn into my new "the one that got away" story. He was the only taker pike wise. I caught a few bass again and the biggest crappie I’ve ever seen. Now it gets rough. On Sunday we hit about 5 or 6 streams with no luck on any of them. The spook factor was worse than the day before. But on one stream we saw a small fish in his feeding lane. I cast a small hairs ear past him a dozen times and he didn’t spook at all, but didn’t seem interested. So I took my buddies rod, he was fishing a caddis emerger. Again we cast over him a dozen or so times without even an acknowledgement. So now wit our two rods, my buddy would change flies on one and I would cast the other. So we were just passing rods back and forth. After about 20 minutes of this we were getting pretty vindictive against this fish. We had already sent about 15 different flies by him. After about an hour we gave up. So in all my infinite wisdom I decided well I’m gonna at least scare the shit out of this bugger, and went charging up stream towards him. I got about 3 feet away and noticed we spent the last hour pulling our hair out trying to cast to a piece of seaweed drifting in the current. Talk about feeling dumb. We then proceeded to go back to his cabin and drank ourselves into a stupor. Oh well. Tim Apple

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After about an hour we gave up. So in all my infinite wisdom I decided well I’m gonna at least scare the shit out of this bugger, and went charging up stream towards him. I got about 3 feet away and noticed we spent the last hour pulling our hair out trying to cast to a piece of seaweed drifting in the current. Talk about feeling dumb. We then proceeded to go back to his cabin and drank ourselves into a stupor. Oh well. Tim Apple

You coulda done worse – you coulda caught it.  BTW, did it spook? Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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"Timothy Apple" wrote //good report snipped//   . . .I got about 3 feet away and noticed we spent the last hour pulling our hair out trying to cast to a piece of seaweed drifting in the current. Talk about feeling dumb. We then proceeded to go back to his cabin and drank ourselves into a stupor. Oh well.

Several years ago I was fishing a stream in the smokies. I was near the mouth of the stream and saw these HUGE fish cruising slowy up and down the creek. I must have spent at least an hour throwing everything I had at them before I realized they were carp. Bob — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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I got about 3 feet away and noticed we spent the last hour pulling our hair out trying to cast to a piece of seaweed drifting in the current. Talk about feeling dumb.

That reminds me of partridge hunting (ruffed grouse to everyone else).  When you are looking for birds, every stump and rock looks like a bird. Pete Collin

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No need to apologize, although it is appreciated. If some one had insulted one of my friends I would also rush to his defense. I was a bit surprised at the hornets nest my posts opened but I also knew there were abler minds than mine out there that would get things sorted out. My main regret is that the misunderstanding took attention away from the thrust of the original thread. I tried reading Adams last night at work but it was just too sad. I hope I can regain the sense of delight reading his stuff has always given me. Thanks, G.Cleveland p.s. I dont know why my email address bounced Warrens message back. always worked before. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I fear you are comparing the headers from two of Mr.Cleveland

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 1. reel to backing      granny knot 2. backing to flyline     double granny knot 3. flyline to leader      zap-a-gap granny knot 4. leader to tippet      granny knot 5. tippet to fly      granny knot with spit

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You sure can’t fault a man that loves his Granny as much as Charlie loves his! Op

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  1. reel to backing      granny knot 2. backing to flyline     double granny knot 3. flyline to leader      zap-a-gap granny knot 4. leader to tippet      granny knot 5. tippet to fly      granny knot with spit

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Perhaps we should not affix the backing to the arbor at all ? When the line goes out, Fish 1 Fisherman 0. — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer

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Perhaps we should not affix the backing to the arbor at all ? When the line goes out, Fish 1 Fisherman 0. — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer

you first <g –waldo

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Perhaps we should not affix the backing to the arbor at all ? When the line goes out, Fish 1 Fisherman 0. TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer you first <g

Does it have to be intentional ? Actually…a fish that has pulled all the line and backing and is just fighting the arbor not…well…at that point it’s about over anyway… — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer

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Actually…a fish that has pulled all the line and backing and is just fighting the arbor not…well…at that point it’s about over anyway…

Bragging time. How many people in ROFF has this happened to? Not me. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Charlie Wilson writes: 1. reel to backing     granny knot 2. backing to flyline    double granny knot 3. flyline to leader     zap-a-gap granny knot 4. leader to tippet     granny knot 5. tippet to fly     granny knot with spit

Priceless!!!!!   Save some of whatever you are drinkin’.  I need it.  <g Dave

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Does it have to be intentional ? Actually…a fish that has pulled all the line and backing and is just fighting the arbor not…well…at that point it’s about over anyway…

I’ve seen video footage of the Aussie flyfishing legend Bushie who has a 10 or 12kg yellowfin tuna on his arbor knot for about 15 minutes, the fish was about 200m straight down. A true test of a man and his tackle – he finally landed it! I think Bushie believes in good arbor knots! Cheers John K

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Does it have to be intentional ? Actually…a fish that has pulled all the line and backing and is just fighting the arbor not…well…at that point it’s about over anyway…

hell t, i gotta better idea. as you start to wind the backing onto the reel, allow for about 3′ to be fed through one of the spool ports. go ahead and wind the backing and line onto the reel taking care as to not entangling the length of backing that exits the reel via the desaignated port. astream, preferably in real big fish water… afterall, this is a manly test of wills…. knot the tag end of the backing to yer wanker. tight lines <g –waldo

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Actually…a fish that has pulled all the line and backing and is just fighting the arbor not…well…at that point it’s about over anyway…

It’s still a good idea to go ahead and actually tie an Arbor knot between backing and reel because you never know when you’re gonna do something clumsy and have to retrieve your rod and reel from the depths by pulling on the line. — Ken Fortenberry

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Does it count if your reel falls off and you pull all the line off hoping as hard as you can that the knot will hold and you’ll get the reel back?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually…a fish that has pulled all the line and backing and is just fighting the arbor not…well…at that point it’s about over anyway… Bragging time. How many people in ROFF has this happened to? Not me. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Does it count if your reel falls off and you pull all the line off hoping as hard as you can that the knot will hold and you’ll get the reel back?

You mean a "Fortenberry?" No, it doesn’t count. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Perhaps we should not affix the backing to the arbor at all ? When the line goes out, Fish 1 Fisherman 0.

Sounds suspiciously like releasing fish. Wolfgang um……unless you stomp on it’s head or something first, I guess

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Perhaps we should not affix the backing to the arbor at all ? When the line goes out, Fish 1 Fisherman 0.

Thought you were against C&R? Rick

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Does it count if your reel falls off and you pull all the line off hoping as hard as you can that the knot will hold and you’ll get the reel back? You mean a "Fortenberry?" No, it doesn’t count.

RATS! I had that one covered Tell ya what, though: you only have that happen once before you’re really reely careful about that arbor knot… /daytripper (been there/done that/saved a Winston and a CFO-3…)

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That concept would cost me a fortune T-Bone. — (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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Hi all, I am looking for some input on knots used in fly fishing (excluding wind knots – I am well trained on that already).  I am updating our club’s site, Transkei Piscatorial Society – Online, and we plan to add some of the more popular knots to our Notebook section (mainly to help newbies) Any recommended knots on the following: 1. reel to backing 2. backing to flyline 3. flyline to leader 4. leader to tippet 5. tippet to fly Any constructive inputs will be appreciated. Marius Jonker Transkei Piscatorial Society – Online http://home.intekom.com/TPS Umtata South Africa

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here’s what I use Any recommended knots on the following: 1. reel to backing

uni-knot – tied so that it is oriented along the direction you will be reeling 2. backing to flyline

Albright but use braided loops for shooting heads to running line 3. flyline to leader

nail knot unless the fly line easily is stripped from the core in which case I’ll use braided loops 4. leader to tippet

surgeons 5. tippet to fly

uni-knot

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here’s what I use Any recommended knots on the following: 1. reel to backing uni-knot – tied so that it is oriented along the direction you will be reeling

Belayed slip knot.– An overhand knot is tied to the tag tip then a slip knot is tied so that the tag end is the slip.When the knot on the tag hits the slip knot it is belayed from further slip. 2. backing to flyline Albright but use braided loops for shooting heads to running line

The Albright knot is remarkably similar to a basic knot taught in Navy Boot. The "Becket Bend". 3. flyline to leader nail knot unless the fly line easily is stripped from the core in which case I’ll use braided loops 4. leader to tippet surgeons

 I like a blood knot here. 5. tippet to fly uni-knot

– Don Thompson Another Thompson Scion

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Hi all, I am looking for some input on knots used in fly fishing (excluding wind knots – I am well trained on that already).  I am updating our club’s site, Transkei Piscatorial Society – Online, and we plan to add some of the more popular knots to our Notebook section (mainly to help newbies) Any recommended knots on the following: 1. reel to backing

arbor knot 2. backing to flyline

Albright knot 3. flyline to leader

leader link or nail knot or needle knot 4. leader to tippet

surgeon’s knot 5. tippet to fly

clinch knot (or improved clinch knot) or non-slip loop knot Those are my picks. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Hi all, I am looking for some input on knots used in fly fishing (excluding wind knots – I am well trained on that already).  I am updating our club’s site, Transkei Piscatorial Society – Online, and we plan to add some of the more popular knots to our Notebook section (mainly to help newbies) Any recommended knots on the following:

Since Wayno’s news server is acting up, I’m answering this on his behalf. 1. reel to backing

clinch knot 2. backing to flyline

clinch knot 3. flyline to leader

clinch knot 4. leader to tippet

clinch knot 5. tippet to fly

clinch knot Any constructive inputs will be appreciated.

— visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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The thread LIVES! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – here’s what I use Any recommended knots on the following: 1. reel to backing uni-knot – tied so that it is oriented along the direction you will be reeling 2. backing to flyline Albright but use braided loops for shooting heads to running line 3. flyline to leader nail knot unless the fly line easily is stripped from the core in which case I’ll use braided loops 4. leader to tippet surgeons 5. tippet to fly uni-knot

– (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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Any recommended knots on the following: 1. reel to backing

Arbor Knot 2. backing to flyline

Zap-A-Gap connection 3. flyline to leader

Zap-A-Gap connection 4. leader to tippet

Blood knot 5. tippet to fly

Clinch knot ( 5 turns, not improved) George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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1. reel to backing

Arbor knot 2. backing to flyline

Perfection loop in the backing, tied with a loop large enough to go around the whole reel. Nail knot with a Perfection loop on the flyline. This system will allow you to quick change a double taper streamside. 3. flyline to leader

Nail knot with a Perfection loop, Perfection loop on the leader too. 4. leader to tippet

Double Surgeon knot 5. tippet to fly

Clinch knot (5 turns, not improved) — Ken Fortenberry

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Hi all, I am looking for some input on knots used in fly fishing (excluding wind knots – I am well trained on that already).  I am updating our club’s site, Transkei Piscatorial Society – Online, and we plan to add some of the more popular knots to our Notebook section (mainly to help newbies) Any recommended knots on the following: 1. reel to backing

I’l cast another vote for the Belayed Slip Knot. 2. backing to flyline

Albright?  I’m not sure what it’s called but I know how to tie it. 3. flyline to leader

Braided loop. 4. leader to tippet

surgeons 5. tippet to fly

Palomar, if the fly is big enough, otherwise clinch or improved clinch.  A Palomar can be a real bitch to tie when the fly is small and you’ve got to be careful–due to the nature of the knot–not to get any of the fly caught in the knot.  If you tie a Palomar on one end and a clinch/improved clinch on the other, the clinch will fail first.  Every time. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any constructive inputs will be appreciated. Marius Jonker Transkei Piscatorial Society – Online http://home.intekom.com/TPS Umtata South Africa

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I’ll see what I can do, PSU tickets between the 20s are hard to find. I’d love to go to any PSU home game this year, and if I can get tickets I’ll contact you.  How much prior notice do you require?

I’m workin’ on a ticket in the visitors section from this end as well. Unfortunately, I’m well down the pecking order of Illini alums and probably won’t get one. If I do, I’d be very grateful and appreciative of the opportunity to have you show me some of those great PA streams around the ballgame. If we can pull this off, we’ll need to hijack Mark Faulkner and force him to fish with us. As far as prior notice, … hell, I don’t know, depends on what’s happening at the time. Don’t go to any expense on my account, the game will be on the tube anyway. — Ken Fortenberry

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This has the makings of an miniclave in central PA.  Let’s work on some tickets and see what happens.  After the so-called "Fighting Illini" get sent back to the playpen by the Nittany Lions – led by the quarterback now proudly known as the "defendant" – we can get to some serious fishing. Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m workin’ on a ticket in the visitors section from this end as well. Unfortunately, I’m well down the pecking order of Illini alums and probably won’t get one. If I do, I’d be very grateful and appreciative of the opportunity to have you show me some of those great PA streams around the ballgame. If we can pull this off, we’ll need to hijack Mark Faulkner and force him to fish with us.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll see what I can do, PSU tickets between the 20s are hard to find.  I’d love to go to any PSU home game this year, and if I can get tickets I’ll contact you.  How much prior notice do you require? I’m workin’ on a ticket in the visitors section from this end as well. Unfortunately, I’m well down the pecking order of Illini alums and probably won’t get one. If I do, I’d be very grateful and appreciative of the opportunity to have you show me some of those great PA streams around the ballgame. If we can pull this off, we’ll need to hijack Mark Faulkner and force him to fish with us. As far as prior notice, … hell, I don’t know, depends on what’s happening at the time. Don’t go to any expense on my account, the game will be on the tube anyway. — Ken Fortenberry

Well, I had been looking for PSU tickets for any home game already.  If I can get them, I’m sure that I will be able to find somebody around here that would want to go with me if you are unavailable.  The most available tickets are always in the student section (of course) which is at the wrong end of the field for an Illini fan…  Usually you can find tickets in the newspaper or on eBay in the week or two immediately prior to the game.  Nothing personal, but a game vs. Illinios isn’t like a game against Michigan or OSU so finding tickets may not be impossible. Tom perhaps we should be looking for the Big Ten newsgroup? Before you buy.

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So I’m hoping that one of you ROFFians can help me…  Or maybe you just know somebody who might.  Anybody who fishes in the Centre/Clinton/Lycoming county region who would be willing to throw away a few hours of their time giving me a few pointers would be a blessing.  Hell, I’ll bring the food AND the beer. Thanks, Tom Before you buy.

Tom It just so happens that I will spending Labor Day weekend at my cabin along Slate Run in Lycoming County. I will arriving on Thur the 31st and departing Mon morning Sep 4. Slate Run is a beautiful wild trout stream in a remote wilderness setting as are Cedar Run and Young Womens Creek all near by. Maybe we could hookup sometime over the weekend for a little dry fly fishing. I probaby dry fly fish 95% of the time so maybe I could help you out a little there. Drop me a email message if you are interested. We would have to pick a time and place to meet before hand as there is no phone in the cabin. John Mimnall Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll see what I can do, PSU tickets between the 20s are hard to find. I’d love to go to any PSU home game this year, and if I can get tickets I’ll contact you.  How much prior notice do you require? I’m workin’ on a ticket in the visitors section from this end as well. Unfortunately, I’m well down the pecking order of Illini alums and probably won’t get one. If I do, I’d be very grateful and appreciative of the opportunity to have you show me some of those great PA streams around the ballgame. If we can pull this off, we’ll need to hijack Mark Faulkner and force him to fish with us. — Ken Fortenberry

Hell Ken you could probaby be on the stream by halftime as the soon to be convict PSU quarterback will probaby run circles around the Illini defense and there would be no question as to the outcome of the game by that time. Before you buy.

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Nothing personal, but a game vs. Illinios isn’t

like a game against Michigan or OSU so finding tickets may not be impossible.< Going at cut rate prices, one would assume. <g

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It just so happens that I will spending Labor Day weekend at my cabin along Slate Run in Lycoming County… Slate Run is a beautiful wild trout stream in a remote wilderness setting as are Cedar Run and Young Womens Creek all near by.

John, John, John. I’m afraid you might have just inadvertently invited one Anthony Wayne Harrison, Esquire to be a permanent house guest at your cabin. Tell me–how far exactly is it to Young Womens from your cabin? –Steve

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 Nothing personal, but a game vs. Illinios isn’t like a game against Michigan or OSU

    bwaaaaahaaaa!     truth always rings clear, even though the sound might be painful to certain ears. wayno

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It just so happens that I will spending Labor Day weekend at my cabin along Slate Run in Lycoming County… Slate Run is a beautiful wild trout stream in a remote wilderness setting as are Cedar Run and Young Womens Creek all near by. John, John, John. I’m afraid you might have just inadvertently invited one Anthony Wayne Harrison, Esquire to be a permanent house guest at your cabin. Tell me–how far exactly is it to Young Womens from your cabin? –Steve

No need for Mr. Harrison’s help as I already saw to it that all the young women along the creek are ‘changed’ and only have eye’s for me. Actually I think the creek was named after a young indian girl that was lost along it. Before you buy.

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Nothing personal, but a game vs. Illinios isn’t like a game against Michigan or OSU so finding tickets may not be impossible. Going at cut rate prices, one would assume. <g     bwaaaaahaaaa!     truth always rings clear, even though the sound might be painful to certain ears.

All this Illini razzing is music to my ears, especially from the Buckeye and Tarheel contingent who happened to be THE major source of college football Laphroaig last season. — Ken Fortenberry

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No need for Mr. Harrison’s help as I already saw to it that all the young women along the creek are ‘changed’ and only have eye’s for me.

        pretty work.  so many creeks; so little time. wayno

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All this Illini razzing is music to my ears, especially from the

Buckeye and Tarheel contingent who happened to be THE major source of college football Laphroaig last season. < Hey, Wayne.  Did you reseal your bottle the way I advised?  Gives Laphroaig a decent flavor.  0

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All this Illini razzing is music to my ears, especially from the Buckeye and Tarheel contingent who happened to be THE major source of college football Laphroaig last season. —

"college football Laphroaig"??? isn’t that a team in texas?  no wait that’s the horned phroaigs…  oh hell, can we at least have a better quality bet this year fellas??  with Laphroaig as the trophy, it’s no wonder the heels lost and wayno paid up…who’d want that cadaver juice?  ’cept ken, of course… <G jeff

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"college football Laphroaig"??? isn’t that a team in texas?  no wait that’s the horned phroaigs…  

Maybe you’re thinking of a different Forty, the north Dallas one perhaps? <g — Charlie…

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"college football Laphroaig"??? isn’t that a team in texas?  no wait that’s the horned phroaigs…  oh hell, can we at least have a better quality bet this year fellas??  with Laphroaig as the trophy, it’s no wonder the heels lost and wayno paid up…who’d want that cadaver juice?  ’cept ken, of course… <G

The Laphroaig is my winnings. If the Tarheels ever put together a football squad, I’d owe Wayno some horribly expensive chardonnay. If the Buckeyes were to get real lucky I’d have to get Harry a bottle of Cardhu. In the spirit of "you can never have too much Laphroaig" I should find a sucker^H^H^H^H^H^H  football fan of the Nittany Lion persuasion to swindle^H^H^H^H^H^H^H  bet with this year. — Ken Fortenberry

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Does anyone know what happened to my Barnoculars? Lost them sometime in college in California early 80’s… absolute necessity for college football where they frisk you as you enter… as a Democrat who encourages diversity, I’d put single malt in one half, bourbon in the other…

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I am, I guess, a newbie in many respects. I’ve owned a fly rod since 1990 or so, but

Hell, I’ll bring the food AND the beer. Tom

 Hell, if you bring the food and beer…….well, I’ll be there. I live a few hours away from Happy Valley  but try to get out that way as often as time allows. My last trip was probably a month ago so I’m due for another any weekend. Around Oct 9 I have five days free and plan on fishing/drinking my time away. Depending on my $$$ flow, I will be floating the Deleware, trying my luck at Striper fishing, searching for Salmon or camping at Hemlock Acres, which is in your neck of the woods. I’d be more than happy to give you a few pointers if I’m out that way. Have you tried Flyfishers Paradise? There’s a spot there I call the trough. Its the channel of water that flows out of the hatchery ponds. There are *big* fish there year round sipping on midges. The day before Christmas I was there- 24 degrees out and they were feeding! I’ve taught several of my friends how to midge fish there. My friend Phil caught his first fish on a fly there- a 17 inch bow on a sz. 26 midge. Its a good place to learn because the fish are immune to human presence. You can cast to them all day and they dont move. The key is to use small flies. Sz. 22 or smaller. And as long as I’m there to teach someone else, I don’t feel guilty about hooking a few myself  If I head that way, I’ll drop you a line. Tight Lines… Matt M.

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I am, I guess, a newbie in many respects. I’ve owned a fly rod since 1990 or so, but have only begun fly fishing (almost) exclusively this summer.  I grew up here in central PA (Clinton Co.) fishing with spinners and salmon eggs.  I can usually catch trout quite successfully in PA streams with a Panther Martin spinner…  This is my first summer fly fishing in PA. I am woefully inept with dry flies, 95% of my fly fishing experience being in Alaska, where the notorious ‘egg hatch’ is the only hatch worth worrying about.  Of the remaining 5%, 4% is pond fishing with small poppers for bass/crappie/bream in NC and 1% has been this summer here in central PA.  Due to this experience my casting is awful (I can roll cast REAL GOOD) and I have no idea which flies to use when. So far, my luck with dry flies has been not so great.  I caught two chubs a couple of weeks ago, and I’ve gone through several leaders and plenty of tippet material trying to catch a trout.  I was surprised by the chubs–I never even considered the possibility of catching a chub on a dry fly.  Or catching chubs at all, for that matter. I only know two people that fly fish, and neither of them very seriously.  One, my aunt’s husband, probably hasn’t fished in 5 years or more.  He may have been fairly adept at it at one time but he no longer seems to have any interest.  The other, the husband of a friend of the same aunt, hasn’t been fly fishing for very long and he is strictly a nymph fisherman. So I’m hoping that one of you ROFFians can help me…  Or maybe you just know somebody who might.  Anybody who fishes in the Centre/Clinton/Lycoming county region who would be willing to throw away a few hours of their time giving me a few pointers would be a blessing.  Hell, I’ll bring the food AND the beer. Just to keep you from digging up my ‘ROFFians: who the hell are these folks?’ post, I am: 33 years old. White. Male. 5′11". 240lbs. (I carry it well, ha ha) Married. (with child, a 15 month old girl) Employed. (Systems Consultant, i.e. glorified computer sales guy) Homeowner. (100-year old Victorian house that requires a LOT of time) I can listen to almost anything, music-wise, but prefer rock-n-roll. I don’t have the most flexible schedule (see above), but I am available practically every weekend.  Saturday or Sunday–no preference here. Penn’s Creek, Spring Creek, Fishing Creek, Kettle Creek, Pine Creek, wherever.  Let’s go fishing! Thanks, Tom Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …  Hell, I’ll bring the food AND the beer. FREE beer ?! Just to fish with you ? Don’t know which of us will get there first, me or Waldo. If it turns out to be Waldo, FER THE LUV OF GAWD, HIDE THE BEER ! If you let Waldo have the beer BEFORE fishing, you gotta drag him around by his groaty old waders all day. He’s a MUCH better fishing partner if you make him wait til the end of the day to start chugging beers. Hmmmmm, my calendar shows that the Illini are scheduled to whup the snot out of the Nittany Lions on Oct 21. If you were to fix me up with a decent seat, say between the 20’s, on Saturday, I would gladly teach you more than a few bad dry fly fishing habits on Sunday. — Ken Fortenberry

I’ll see what I can do, PSU tickets between the 20s are hard to find. I’d love to go to any PSU home game this year, and if I can get tickets I’ll contact you.  How much prior notice do you require? Tom Before you buy.

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…  Hell, I’ll bring the food AND the beer.

FREE beer ?! Just to fish with you ? Don’t know which of us will get there first, me or Waldo. If it turns out to be Waldo, FER THE LUV OF GAWD, HIDE THE BEER ! If you let Waldo have the beer BEFORE fishing, you gotta drag him around by his groaty old waders all day. He’s a MUCH better fishing partner if you make him wait til the end of the day to start chugging beers. Hmmmmm, my calendar shows that the Illini are scheduled to whup the snot out of the Nittany Lions on Oct 21. If you were to fix me up with a decent seat, say between the 20’s, on Saturday, I would gladly teach you more than a few bad dry fly fishing habits on Sunday.   — Ken Fortenberry

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If you let Waldo have the beer BEFORE fishing, you gotta drag him around by his groaty old waders all day.

I always wondered how you spell "groaty". Regards, Jeff

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If you let Waldo have the beer BEFORE fishing, you gotta drag him around by his groaty old waders all day. I always wondered how you spell "groaty".

G  R  O  A  T  Y Groady, on the other hand, is spelled with a d. Wolfgang W  O  L  F  G  A  N  G

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am, I guess, a newbie in many respects. I’ve owned a fly rod since 1990 or so, but have only begun fly fishing (almost) exclusively this summer.  I grew up here in central PA (Clinton Co.) fishing with spinners and salmon eggs.  I can usually catch trout quite successfully in PA streams with a Panther Martin spinner…  This is my first summer fly fishing in PA. I am woefully inept with dry flies, 95% of my fly fishing experience being in Alaska, where the notorious ‘egg hatch’ is the only hatch worth worrying about.  Of the remaining 5%, 4% is pond fishing with small poppers for bass/crappie/bream in NC and 1% has been this summer here in central PA.  Due to this experience my casting is awful (I can roll cast REAL GOOD) and I have no idea which flies to use when. So far, my luck with dry flies has been not so great.  I caught two chubs a couple of weeks ago, and I’ve gone through several leaders and plenty of tippet material trying to catch a trout.  I was surprised by the chubs–I never even considered the possibility of catching a chub on a dry fly.  Or catching chubs at all, for that matter. I only know two people that fly fish, and neither of them very seriously.  One, my aunt’s husband, probably hasn’t fished in 5 years or more.  He may have been fairly adept at it at one time but he no longer seems to have any interest.  The other, the husband of a friend of the same aunt, hasn’t been fly fishing for very long and he is strictly a nymph fisherman. So I’m hoping that one of you ROFFians can help me…  Or maybe you just know somebody who might.  Anybody who fishes in the Centre/Clinton/Lycoming county region who would be willing to throw away a few hours of their time giving me a few pointers would be a blessing.  Hell, I’ll bring the food AND the beer. Just to keep you from digging up my ‘ROFFians: who the hell are these folks?’ post, I am: 33 years old. White. Male. 5′11". 240lbs. (I carry it well, ha ha) Married. (with child, a 15 month old girl) Employed. (Systems Consultant, i.e. glorified computer sales guy) Homeowner. (100-year old Victorian house that requires a LOT of time) I can listen to almost anything, music-wise, but prefer rock-n-roll. I don’t have the most flexible schedule (see above), but I am available practically every weekend.  Saturday or Sunday–no preference here. Penn’s Creek, Spring Creek, Fishing Creek, Kettle Creek, Pine Creek, wherever.  Let’s go fishing! Thanks, Tom Before you buy.

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I am, I guess, a newbie in many respects. I’ve owned a fly rod since 1990 or so, but have only begun fly fishing (almost) exclusively this summer.  I grew up here in central PA (Clinton Co.) fishing with spinners and salmon eggs.  I can usually catch trout quite successfully in PA streams with a Panther Martin spinner…  This is my first summer fly fishing in PA.

(woes and travails of the flyfisher snipped) Tom – Contact me be email and I’ll see if I can help.  A bit limited in my activities these days – at least for the short term – but let’s see. Mark Faulkner

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I rec’d, in the mail today,  the August 7th issue of US News and World Report and on page 6 is states: Cheney is a passionate fly fisherman and an able wing shooter.  Former Secretary of State James Baker tells us that Cheney taught him to be a world-class fly-caster.  "Everything I know about fly-fishing I learned from Dick."  He tells of one trip when Cheney crawled on his belly up to a stream so as not to spook the fish. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<)))’    <)))’    <)))’    <’(((<    <)))’    <)))’

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  He tells of one trip when Cheney crawled on his belly up to a stream so as not to spook the fish.

        big deal.  after all, the guy is a career politician.         oh, well; i reckon he would do just fine up on slick rock creek. wayno(you see one, you’ve seen ‘em all)

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Here are the facts. I am 70 years old and an avid fly fisherman. I am looking for a canoe I can fish from (stability), doesn`t weigh over 55 lbs (liftability by me). The canoe will mostly be used in lakes and ponds and large slow moving rivers. I am not budget conscious but do not want to have to give up a gold bar for this item. Please help

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Get the lightest canoe you can. There are so many to chose from.

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You know, I took the photograph, I am in the store enough (even help fill in), but I can’t for the life of me remember what kind of boat this is. It’s the top left yellow fiberglass canoe with the really wide beam, click on ‘canoes’ in the left frame on: http://members.aol.com/Froggie405/ It is really light, under 500.00, a price I would like to see on a fiberglass sea kayak… really light.  extremely stable.  pretty well made.  Roomy enough to fit that last fish that got away. The owner of the shop is on the list and could identify it for you. He could also prbably tell you where to find it in your area. — gabriel l romeu http://members.aol.com/romeug     studio furniture http://members.aol.com/romeugp    paintings, photos, prints, etc. http://members.xoom.com/gabrielR  a daily photo journal

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You know, I took the photograph, I am in the store enough (even help fill in), but I can’t for the life of me remember what kind of boat this is. It’s the top left yellow fiberglass canoe with the really wide beam, click on ‘canoes’ in the left frame on: http://members.aol.com/Froggie405/ It is really light, under 500.00, a price I would like to see on a fiberglass sea kayak… really light.  extremely stable.  pretty well made.  Roomy enough to fit that last fish that got away. The owner of the shop is on the list and could identify it for you. He could also prbably tell you where to find it in your area.

It might be the We-No-Nah Fisherman, the 14′ is good for one, 16′ for two.  Quite light in Tuf-Weave, lighter still in Kevlar.  Very stable but not terribly slow.  Great Outdoor Provision Company in North Carolina used to stock them.  Call the Raleigh location for the best selection. — Delete all the occurences of the letter q to reply. — Andrew (no q) Gooding

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Here’s this years advice. For the weight you will have to get a kevlar boat. For initial stability for fly fishing I would suggest at least 36 inches wide. If it is only going to be used for day trips there is no point in anything over 16 feet long. There are lots of manufacturers that make something in this area. Sincerely, Carey Robson President – Recreational Canoeing Association of British Columbia Master Instructor http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/CanoeBC     Here are the facts. I am 70 years old and an avid fly fisherman. I am     looking for a canoe I can fish from (stability), doesn`t weigh over 55     lbs (liftability by me). The canoe will mostly be used in lakes and     ponds and large slow moving rivers. I am not budget conscious but do not     want to have to give up a gold bar for this item. Please help

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You may want to consider a sportspal canoe. They have some very stable stuff around 12 to 14 feet, excellent for fishing. If you don’t mind the price a kevlar is also a good canoe. One person wrote that you will want to keep it somewhat wide, that will help with the stability.

    Here are the facts. I am 70 years old and an avid fly fisherman. I am     looking for a canoe I can fish from (stability), doesn`t weigh over 55     lbs (liftability by me). The canoe will mostly be used in lakes and     ponds and large slow moving rivers. I am not budget conscious but do not     want to have to give up a gold bar for this item. Please help

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Wardensworry, you need to check into Merrimack Canoes out of Crossville, Tenn. These are very beautiful  wood (ash&cherry) and fiberglas hand layup canoes And the company  will get you a boat pretty much whereever you are. Randy Pew is the owner(&Grandson of founder) and can be called at 931-484-4556. His boats aren’t cheap but once you see one you’ll wonder why they’re not more.They are  not for whitewater but flyfishing and tripping. Ask him about his Osprey and Tennessean, they sound like what you’re looking for.. I’m not a salesman or affiliated w/ Merrimack, just a friend of Randy’s and an admirer of his work.         Barnett

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Depending upon where you are located, we carry the Northern Paddler line of glass canoes. They make a 10′6" model with a 40" beam. We have one in stock in yellow at $489.00. This would fit your stability and weight requirements. This is a solo boat. If interested, we are in Bordentown, NJ. Paint Island Canoe & Kayak. If you are in the east, there may be a dealer in your area. Give us a call. 609-324-8200 www.riversport.com/paintisland/

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        As far as I’ve been able to ascertain, no one really knows exactly how far back fly fishing dates. Based on caves drawings and such, we do know that our stoop shouldered, uni-browed ancestors did, in fact, fish. Of course, early fishing techniques lacked a lot of the finesse associated with modern angling. Rods, for instance, were much shorter and heavier, and were used in a somewhat different manner than we are accustomed to. A prehistoric angler, favorite rod in hand, would wade out into a stream and take position. He’d carefully balance his tackle, assuring himself that his grip was firm and proper. After quietly surveying the water, he’d swing the rod in the classic ‘ten o’clock – one o’clock – ten o’clock’ manner. Then he’d bash a fish in the head, pick it up, and eat it raw on the spot.         This style of fishing eventually developed into two distinct areas: one group preferred ’sight bashing’, preferring to actually see a fish before swinging. The other tribe members stuck with the more old fashioned form of ‘blind bashing’. The sight-bashers soon came to hate the blind-bashers, claiming that their particular style was messing up the fishing. The blind-bashers fired back with the old traditionalism vs. neo-fishism, and the debate raged, leading to an inevitable spilt up of the tribe. One group moved upstream and the other, down. It wasn’t long before a splinter group of blind bashers decided that using longer poles was the way to go. They, too, eventually moved out to practice their particular style of fish catching. Before you knew it, ideological angling dichotomy had forced civilization to spread to the four corners of the globe. (Interestingly enough, many of these philosophical arguments continue to this day.)         Of course, early fishermen never really looked upon their labors as being a sport. Owing to the presence of other predators on the stream in those days (saber-toothed tigers, tyrannosauruses, etc.), the prehistoric angler constantly ran the risk of being eaten raw on the spot himself. When a trip to the ol’ fishing hole meant a 50/50 shot of being dinner instead of getting dinner, angling could hardly be considered recreational relaxation. It would be many years before people would look upon fishing as anything but a free, albeit risky, meal.         Our angling ancestors did, however, contribute one thing to the sport which has remained with us. One fine morning, an aboriginal angler (we’ll call him ‘Nok’) was working his favorite stream. At the time of the incident, Nok was using the forerunner of today’s electronic fish finder…that is to say he was knee-deep in the stream, bent over with his head fully submerged. As he scanned the water for his breakfast, a large, fish/angler eating cave bear was also surveying the stream for an early repast. It spotted Nok’s exposed backside, strolled over, sniffed, and then took a tentative exploratory nibble.         Now, a modern angler, no longer attuned to the wilderness environment due to ions of soft, urban living, would have surely met certain death under the same circumstances. Nok, on the other hand, reflexes sharply honed by years of eat-or-be-eaten fishing, reacted instantly. In an explosive, blinding fury of splashing, clubbing, and squealing, Nok was out of the stream and up a tree before the bear’s jaws could clamp completely shut. The astonished bear, left with nothing more than a good soaking and a small piece of loincloth dangling from one tooth, just stood and gazed upward at the terrified caveman, whose trembling had quickly denuded the tree of its leaves. After a fashion, it ambled off in search of a less frisky (and somewhat quieter) meal.         Later that evening, while sitting around the campfire, Nok regaled his small band of fellow anglers with a vivid (and, of course, slightly exaggerated) account of the day’s event. Like all good fishermen, the tribe listened quietly to the story, all the while rolling their eyes and winking at each other when Nok wasn’t looking their way. It wasn’t until Nok turned around and presented the physical evidence that they  believed that this wasn’t just another fishing tale. After much congratulatory grunting and chest pounding, the tribal elder announced that from that evening on Nok would be forever known as ‘Gup Nar’…The One That Got Away. "The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men’s lives the hours spent in fishing" – ASSYRIAN TABLET (2000 B.C.) Copyright 1997 Da’ Capn

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When was the strike indicator invented?  Is that in part 2? George Adams

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When was the strike indicator invented?

the day the music died… wayno

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A very well researched and thought out article.  In fact there is some evidence to suggest that our uni-browed ancestors were indeed the biological forerunner of todays polarized sunglasses.     Nature, realizeing that the "Uni-Brow" enabled prehistoric man to fish better – the "uni-brow"  helping to cut down on the surface glare from the water – and being unable to develope polarized eyesight from an evolutionary aspect, procedd to evolve (remember Darwin?) a more intelligent species of hominoid who could later invent polarized sunglassed.     Contrary to the established dogma that man gave up hunter-gatherer society to form an agrarian culture to brew beer, modern theorists now opine it was for the purpose of inventing polarized sunglasses to pursue better fishing.     It is, however, well recorded that primitive man related his tales of adventure around the campfire on the night s of the full moon.  And thus, when Nok exposed his backside to prove the veracity of his tale . . . invented the term "mooning."     Practice C&R and you can kill it later . . . . . . .john

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A while back I saw some info on the TMA on the Housatonic in Northern CT. including a phone number for latest info.  I hope to have a chance to fish there Sept. 10 and 11.  Any info and that phone number would be appreciated. Thanks. Tom G.

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To answer a previous inquiry, for information about fly fishing in the trout management area of the Housatonic River in northwestern Connecticut, try calling the Housatonic Meadows Fly Shop in Cornwall, Connecticut at 203-672-6064.  Good luck! Mark Melnick Stamford, Connecticut, USA

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To answer a previous inquiry, for information about fly fishing in the trout management area of the Housatonic River in northwestern Connecticut, try calling the Housatonic Meadows Fly Shop in Cornwall, Connecticut at 203-672-6064.  Good luck! Mark Melnick Stamford, Connecticut, USA

The owner of the HMFS is Phil .. Phil pointed out a nice spot for us this spring, and we ended up the day with a few nice smallmouth and a 16" rainbow, plus watched others get some nice ones. you can also look at the CT fishing page http://metro.turnpike.net/J/jfagan/index.html

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A while back I saw some info on the TMA on the Housatonic in Northern CT. including a phone number for latest info.  I hope to have a chance to fish there Sept. 10 and 11.  Any info and that phone number would be appreciated.

The best source is the Housatonic Fly Fishermen’s Association’s recording at 203 248-8616.  However, unless we get some good rain in the next week, you really should stay off the Housie:  water levels are too low and the water temperature is too hot, with the result that the fish get overstressed when caught and have a poor likelihood of survival even with the most caring resuscitation.  

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(203) 248-8616

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Haven’t been to river but my guess is it’s unfishable due to drought.Fish move to mouths of cold feeder creeks which are closed to fishing. Anyway, info number is 203 248 8616. Better bet is Farmington River from Riverton downstream to New Hartford. Water remains cold ’cause it’s dam-fed. Info number 860  738 7327. Brian Matthews

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Haven’t been to river but my guess is it’s unfishable due to drought.

I drove down Rte 7 along the TMA today, Saturday, 9/3, and stopped at a few places to look at the water.  I have never seen it so low; barely a trickle. Rocks I’d never seen before were fully exposed.  A couple of jerks were ffing in the Church Pool, but there seemed little risk that they’d catch anything.  Otherwise I think I would have jumped in and splashed around just to put down any trout that might have been thinking of lunch. This river should not be fished until after we’ve had some rain and cooler weather.

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Aren’t they the ones that eat their own young?

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Not only will they eat their young they will also take a #28 Adams on 8X …. give it a try…. Thats how I get over cabin fever.  by the way make sure to use barbless hooks, guppies don’t seem to recover well from

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Well, I was down in Louisianna and stopped off on the side of the road at a creek.  Little minnows were swimming around on the surface.  I had some #14 hooks and some little pieces of worm.  The water was about 6 feet down from where my gf and I were standing.  We let our lines down and the minnows would grab the worm, not able to get the hook in their mouth.   They would hold onto it just enough that you could sling them out of the water.  We flicked them high enough that they went flying in the air and we would catch them in our hands.  We kept them in a bucket for some catfishing that night.  They did not seem to be harmed too much by their sudden flights into the air.  Guess its another way to catch fish.

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