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Ever had one of those days that just keeps getting better and better?  I came home from work today and had a slip to go pick up a package at the post office.  I stayed up tying flies and then someone knocked on the door.  It was the post man with another package from Wayno with raffle items.  Cool shirt and a very nice picture.  So, I go back to tying flies and at 11 am go to the post office and pick up a box from my aunt and uncle.   I get home and there is a fedex guy walking ahead of me.  He stops at the mail boxes after saying hello and I go on to my apartment.  A few moments later there is a knock on the door.  Open the door and Mr FedEx is there.  We both kinda laughed since he could have just given me the envelope outside.  I come back inside and open the box from aunt and uncle and it is one of those talking bass things.  After reading about them here I was a little skeptical so I opened the envelope (again from Wayno). Inside the envelope were a bunch of pictures of the Carolina clave.  I went through these a couple of times and had fun reading the notes on the back of them.  Then I fired ol’ Billy Bass up and got a chuckle from that.  I went through the pictures from Wayno again and think I got more chuckles from those however. So around 12:30 I decide I better get some sleep.  I have to get up at 4:30 to go to work so I lay down and almost as soon as I start falling asleep the phone rings.  I debated on answering it, but given the short time to the clave I decided I better because it might be a clavester in need of assistance.  I answer the phone and it was Bob Card whom you might remember from here a while back.  He and I have been emailing each other for a while because he was supposed to come out here on a business trip.  Didn’t hear from him for about a month so I emailed him again about a week and a half ago. Well, turns out that Bob is going to be in Bozeman this coming up weekend.  He and a friend will be arriving just in time for the clave and will be able to show up friday when they are done and then some on saturday before leaving from Butte Saturday at 6 pm.  Talk about luck!   Bob and I chatted for a bit, but now I am afraid to go to sleep because something else might happen.  I should run out and buy a lotto ticket or something.  The way today is going I will be tired, but I sure as hell am enjoying today anyway!  I even got another dozen tied for my fly box Oh, and I almost forgot to mention the neat flies that somebody sent me.  Got those when I was home for lunch last night.  I shall guard their name as closely as I guard the names of my favorite fishing spots unless they wish to name themselves and start tying up dozens more for the people who will no doubt want a set too <g   Well, maybe I should try and get some sleep. Warren X#-[

Trout Dwellers Unite! Western Conclave Guru For info: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/sp_ROFF_people/wclave/wclave.html

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 Oh, Clavemeister.    You don’t have to guard the name.  They are Frank’s Fightin’ Craws tied in a size ten and a tan color to match Montana crawdads.  With my compliments, I hope they work.                   Frank Reid

You better start tying now.  I imagine you will be receiving orders *very* soon <g  Just make sure to caution everyone that these things do bite.  Took me an hour once I unleashed them to gather them back up and contain them again. Thanks again Frank.  I can’t get over how cool these things are. Warren X#-[

Trout Dwellers Unite! Western Conclave Guru For info: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/sp_ROFF_people/wclave/wclave.html

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Oh, and I almost forgot to mention the neat flies that somebody sent me.  Got those when I was home for lunch last night.  I shall guard their name as closely as I guard the names of my favorite fishing spots unless they wish to name themselves and start tying up dozens more for the people who will no doubt want a set too <g

   Oh, Clavemeister.     You don’t have to guard the name.  They are Frank’s Fightin’ Craws tied in a size ten and a tan color to match Montana crawdads.  With my compliments, I hope they work.                    Frank Reid Before you buy.

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Forgive me if this has been covered before, but….  what’s the shelf life of middle and premium grade fly lines (e.g., Cortland 333, Scientific Anglers Ultra 3)?  Do any of the chemical treatments in or on the line deteriorate from exposure to air, since the boxes they come in aren’t air tight?  I’m asking (obviously) because an area dealer has very good prices on old stock of Ultra 3 (original packaging — different from what it’s currently packaged in) and some other lines. Thanks very much for any insight. G. Weaver

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Forgive me if this has been covered before, but….  what’s the shelf life of middle and premium grade fly lines (e.g., Cortland 333, Scientific Anglers Ultra 3)?  Do any of the chemical treatments in or on the line deteriorate from exposure to air, since the boxes they come in aren’t air tight?  I’m asking (obviously) because an area dealer has very good prices on old stock of Ultra 3 (original packaging — different from what it’s currently packaged in) and some other lines. Thanks very much for any insight. G. Weaver

This is an interesting question – may have missed it, but don’t recall that it’s been posed before.  No scientific or experience basis to make this statement, but I would say that if the line is stored out of the sun and away from excessive heat or cold, it ought to be in pretty good shape even after a number of years in storage. Mark Faulkner

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Forgive me if this has been covered before, but….  what’s the shelf life of middle and premium grade fly lines (e.g., Cortland 333, Scientific Anglers Ultra 3)?

I don’t know about "premium grade," but a greart many years ago, when I was a a grad student (that was so long ago I’m now retired), I bought an HDH floating line from Herter’s for about three bucks. I used it for twenty or twenty five years, and it was still floating. As an off-topic but perhaps relevant aside:  I  had the good fortune to do some fishing and hunting with Ed Zern back in the 1960s.  In his other life he was Creative Director of Geyer, Morey, Madden and Ballard, a big-time New York ad agency. I asked him about those strange greenish plastic collars on his two Labs.  He said "Oh, those are some experimental flea collars one of our clients gave me to try out.  They’ve been keeping fleas off my Labs for at least two years.  I’m sure they have someone working on that problem." Sure enough.  When flea collars appeared on the market a bit later, they were good for a couple of months. Might the same be true for fly lines? vince norris  Do any of the chemical treatments in or on – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -the line deteriorate from exposure to air, since the boxes they come in aren’t air tight?  I’m asking (obviously) because an area dealer has very good prices on old stock of Ultra 3 (original packaging — different from what it’s currently packaged in) and some other lines. Thanks very much for any insight. G. Weaver

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UV light and heat are the killers if I understand things correctly.  The lines also loose their slick finish over time because there is friction from the guides.  My guess is that the lines should be fine as long as they haven’t been sitting next to a heater or left in the sun for a long time. << Do any of the chemical treatments in or on the line deteriorate from exposure to air, since the boxes they come in aren’t air tight?  I’m asking (obviously) because an area dealer has very good prices on old stock of Ultra 3 (original packaging — different from what it’s currently packaged in) and some other lines. Thanks very much for any insight. G. Weaver

  <<  I bought an HDH floating line from Herter’s for about three bucks. I used it for twenty or twenty five years, and it was still floating. I guess I am brutal on my fly lines.  I can get a sinking line to last for a lot of years but I kill my dry lines within about two years or less.  That is based on fishing 60+ days per year but I still tear through them fast. Mike

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I have a fair collection of lines (more than I ever have mounted on reels). My solution has been to always put them away clean – coiled and tied with pipe cleaners – and in ziplock bags with all the air sucked out.  Figure that this will minimize effects of atmospheric polutants such as ozone. Keep them in dark color plastic tub (no light), and in a cool place.  Seems to have worked although I don’t have a control on this experement.  I keep even new lines in ziplock bags – cheap and figure it can’t hurt. air, since the boxes they come in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -aren’t air tight?  I’m asking (obviously) because an area dealer has very good prices on old stock of Ultra 3 (original packaging — different from what it’s currently packaged in) and some other lines. Thanks very much for any insight. G. Weaver

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Hi Vince, I have seen them 20 years old and still OK. Probably not used much? I have also seen some ‘Commando Anglers’ wear out a line in a season. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop http://www.kiene.com <snip I don’t know about "premium grade," but a greart many years ago, when – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was a a grad student (that was so long ago I’m now retired), I bought an HDH floating line from Herter’s for about three bucks. I used it for twenty or twenty five years, and it was still floating. vince norris  Do any of the chemical treatments in or on the line deteriorate from exposure to air, since the boxes they come in aren’t air tight?  I’m asking (obviously) because an area dealer has very good prices on old stock of Ultra 3 (original packaging — different from what it’s currently packaged in) and some other lines. Thanks very much for any insight. G. Weaver

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Keep them clean and conditioned, and even the $10 specials from walmart will last a long time. eventually they will phyisically wear out, but that takes a lot of fishing. by then, you’ll feel like you’ve *earned* a new line. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyo Before you buy.

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I have offered flies occasionally, but usually only do so when asked, and I would never try to give anybody casting lessons etc unasked, I think this might be akin to asking for a punch on the nose.  The skill or lack of it which one possesses, is a very personal thing, criticising a complete stranger is a no no in my opinion. TL MC

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I have offered flies occasionally, but usually only do so when asked, and I would never try to give anybody casting lessons etc unasked, I think this might be akin to asking for a punch on the nose.  The skill or lack of it which one possesses, is a very personal thing, criticising a complete stranger is a no no in my opinion.

And you know that no matter how carefully one was to couch any assistance to avoid it being taken as criticism, the risk is still high that someone’s feelings are going to be injured. I just don’t see the high-percentage up-side to offering unsolicited casting assistance. And frankly, I’m on the water to enjoy myself, not to risk the ire of a flogger… /daytripper

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I only help when asked (fly choices, where, ect).  I have never given casting lessons while I am trying to fish nor do I plan to start that practice. I can understand wanting to be helpful and all, but let a beginner plot their own course. Some of the best lessons I have learned on my own.  If it is someone you know (like I just taught my brother), then don’t plan on fishing much and sure as hell don’t show off your expertise and catch a lot of fish using the same fly, in the same place.  That will just them turn them off thinking they are a failure. Warren

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I tell you truly, I try not to intrude. Women are more willing to take advice about it, naturally, but even they have to make at least one plaintive eye-contact before I’ll offer up a fly or a suggestion. If they want help, they’ll tell you somehow. W.E.S. Harman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Many of us have been on a stream or lake and watched a beginner thrash the water in frustration. Bad casting or presentation culminating in a temper tantrum and no fish caught. The question is do you offer help, or stay the hell away? I have helped a few people (usually young men or woman) by offering them a fly and maybe one little hint about their cast. I’ve usually been greeted with despirate thanks.  For adult males its usually like approaching a mad bear. I’ve often been told to go get f**ed. Do any of you have tactics to approach new fisherman with a little advice?  My only success is usually to catch 10 fish under their nose and let them ask what am I doing. For you new to fly fishers,  I’d suggest that you do approach more accomplished fisherman on the stream for advise or fly selection. As soon at your told the secret is a 16 calibaetis emerger and you give a blank look, the fisherman will usually get more basic without you needing to ask the obvious question. Watch the guy fishing for a while before you ask what fly since its seldom the fly but how he/she is fishing that makes the real difference. Is he fishing upstream or across, in the seems or off the bank, wet or dry, with extra weight or not, with a dropper or single fly, dead drift, slow or fast retrieve???

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I tell you truly, I try not to intrude. Women are more willing to take advice about it, naturally, but even they have to make at least one plaintive eye-contact before I’ll offer up a fly or a suggestion. If they want help, they’ll tell you somehow.

I wish I could get any eye contact from any women on the stream, then again I have yet to see a woman on the stream : ( Tim Apple — "Bamboo is Better"

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Many of us have been on a stream or lake and watched a beginner thrash the water in frustration. Bad casting or presentation culminating in a temper tantrum and no fish caught. The question is do you offer help, or stay the hell away?

Snip<<< Generally, I’ll laugh out loud a few times and then start in with the verbal haranguing. "Nice tailing loop, loser! froth up the water a little more. Where’d you learn to cast, the Walt Winter school of casting. I’ve seen better back casts on a drunken, cross eyed bait dunker!" I have found this to be very helpful…… Matt M.

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Whassis, Matt?  Smoking that stuff again?  And, Im NOT cross eyed! Myoptic, yes, but strabismus, not!  And HEY, I tyed my own shoes!  A *real* guide would show a little humility.  The lessons are worth the Tom — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Snip<<< Generally, I’ll laugh out loud a few times and then start in with the verbal haranguing. "Nice tailing loop, loser! froth up the water a little more. Where’d you learn to cast, the Walt Winter school of casting. I’ve seen better back casts on a drunken, cross eyed bait dunker!" I have found this to be very helpful…… Matt M.

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I went out to my home river last night at about 7:30 to fish the evening hatch. I was fishing a run that usually holds some good fish when there’s a hatch on. They come out of a deep pool down below to feed in the shallower, swifter water. I’ve been fishing this stretch of the river for about fifteen years and feel I know it very well. A young, blonde woman in hippers was fishing upstream and saw me catch a couple of little ones. She came down to ask me what I was using.  I gave her a couple of flies, showed her one of the mayflies the trout were feeding on and wished her luck.  She then told me that the fish were rising "like crazy" in the pool down below but she couldn’t wade out far enough because she was too short. I explained to her that there was a school of very small Browns that surface feed in the pool every evening but that the better fish move up into the head of the pool and into the run I was fishing. Fishing was fairly slow where I was and there was only about fifteen minutes left before I couldn’t see my fly any more. So I thought I’d go down stream and catch a few of those "little browns" that were rising "like crazy."  When I got there, they WERE rising like crazy and were feeding on the same small dun mayfly that was hatching in the run above. On the second or third cast, I had a solid take. Expecting a little Brown, I wasn’t ready for the strong down stream run and I broke off the fish. A few minutes later I got another hook up, I was a little better prepared and after a nice battle landed a Rainbow of about 16". It was then pretty dark, but the fish were still rising. Although I couldn’t see my fly, I could make out the rise forms, so I took a few more casts and hooked and landed a Rainbow that was pushing 20".   Nice way to end the evening but I had another little treat in store. Wading back to shore I tripped on a boulder and took a dunking. While I was swearing at myself for being so stupid, I thought about my conversation with the young woman. She gave me a nice evening of fishing and I felt like an ass for being such a know it all. Willi

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Tim,    The last woman I saw on a trout stream was when I was fly fishing up the middle of a small stream and came around a large rock and there was a woman nude sun bathing on her back with her feet pointed at me.  I expected her to grab a towel or roll over, but she just watched me fish on through.  I don’t know if I got any strikes in the next twenty yards or not. Ernie Harrison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wish I could get any eye contact from any women on the stream, then again I have yet to see a woman on the stream : ( Tim Apple

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Tim,    The last woman I saw on a trout stream was when I was fly fishing up the middle of a small stream and came around a large rock and there was a woman nude sun bathing on her back with her feet pointed at me.  I expected her to grab a towel or roll over, but she just watched me fish on through.  I don’t know if I got any strikes in the next twenty yards or not. Ernie Harrison

Yes, but did you get a rise ? TL MC

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What ? a beginner trashing water in frustration ? Most of the people I see on streams fish like this: ^^^^^ back-cast … splash … forward cast … splash (repeat about 10 times to get 40 yards out) drag drag drag. Ok, just kidding. I sometimes offer flies when asked what I am using.  Sometimes I relinquish my spot if I sense that the other angler feels that I have the best spot and he is fishing dead water. A slightly different problem is the lack of stream etiquette that beginners seem to have. I rarely had a problem sharing streams with old timers, however, new fishermen are often a pain in the butt.  Aside for people moving close to me and cast at the same trout I am working on, I had people crossing streams just where I was, or, in some cases, going near the place I was casting to, to see if there was a trout there …. What do you do in those cases ?  I usually move to the next pool: the few times I made a comment about the behaviour, I received blank stares in return. Now, as FF has become increasingly popular with wealthier people in the recent years, who often buy Orvis stuff, I wonder if the dislike that this group has shown towards Orvis is really due to the dislike of new fishermen lacking stream etiquette and dressed in rather expensive outfits ….. -Vittorio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Many of us have been on a stream or lake and watched a beginner thrash the water in frustration. Bad casting or presentation culminating in a temper tantrum and no fish caught. The question is do you offer help, or stay the hell away? I have helped a few people (usually young men or woman) by offering them a fly and maybe one little hint about their cast. I’ve usually been greeted with despirate thanks.  For adult males its usually like approaching a mad bear. I’ve often been told to go get f**ed. Do any of you have tactics to approach new fisherman with a little advice?  My only success is usually to catch 10 fish under their nose and let them ask what am I doing. For you new to fly fishers,  I’d suggest that you do approach more accomplished fisherman on the stream for advise or fly selection. As soon at your told the secret is a 16 calibaetis emerger and you give a blank look, the fisherman will usually get more basic without you needing to ask the obvious question. Watch the guy fishing for a while before you ask what fly since its seldom the fly but how he/she is fishing that makes the real difference. Is he fishing upstream or across, in the seems or off the bank, wet or dry, with extra weight or not, with a dropper or single fly, dead drift, slow or fast retrieve???

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ah, mike…that must be the germanic influence engorging your brit nature…soon you’ll be postin about teen-y flies… jeff (worshiping at the mons venus) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tim,    The last woman I saw on a trout stream was when I was fly fishing up the middle of a small stream and came around a large rock and there was a woman nude sun bathing on her back with her feet pointed at me.  I expected her to grab a towel or roll over, but she just watched me fish on through.  I don’t know if I got any strikes in the next twenty yards or not. Ernie Harrison Yes, but did you get a rise ? TL MC

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you mean all that stuff walt taught me was wrong?  he said it was in the orvis book… jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Many of us have been on a stream or lake and watched a beginner thrash the water in frustration. Bad casting or presentation culminating in a temper tantrum and no fish caught. The question is do you offer help, or stay the hell away? Snip<<< Generally, I’ll laugh out loud a few times and then start in with the verbal haranguing. "Nice tailing loop, loser! froth up the water a little more. Where’d you learn to cast, the Walt Winter school of casting. I’ve seen better back casts on a drunken, cross eyed bait dunker!" I have found this to be very helpful…… Matt M.

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Tim,    The last woman I saw on a trout stream was when I was fly fishing up the middle of a small stream and came around a large rock and there was a woman nude sun bathing on her back with her feet pointed at me.  I expected her to grab a towel or roll over, but she just watched me fish on through.  I don’t know if I got any strikes in the next twenty yards or not. Ernie Harrison

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Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste! Allan

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Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste! Allan

Let me guess…you’re new to the internet (and USENET). This is not a "site" this is a newsgroup.  Just a bunch of random people who talk about a topic or mostly whatever happens to come out of their keyboards.  Don’t like it? Don’t come here.  There are no rules and no services are provided, you get out of this group what is contributed to it. Later,      - Ken — Not speaking for anyone but myself

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Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste!

Make that 26% bullshit Allan (considering your useless whining drivel of a post). — OBROFF – Flyfishing through convalesence….I recently broke ribs playing basketball…it hurt to do anything.  Tying flies required that an arm be propped up.  But, while tying…having the mental image of using the flies, of being on the water, most certainly sped recovery.   You can extrapolate this to the most fatal conditions and even if one does not survive an illness, what was lost to the memory of being back on the water and imagining that a fish will rise ?  Rest in peace Jim (April 6, 1998). — TimW – Halfordian Golfer Guilt replaced the creel…

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Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste! Allan

Gee Allan that’s a hellova contribution. Best Regards, Phil Koenig Manhattan Custom Tackle, Ltd. http://fishdoc.com "I’m the boss, so WHATEVER I say is OK."

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Actually there is a lot of good information here. You just have to learn which contributors are worth reading and which ones to delete. Happy days. Jack.

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That sounds about right for any decent flyfisher, gear included. Obviously, not recognizing this, you are a bait dunker. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t think so. It’s more like: 25% bullsh-t, 50% garbage and 25% junk. What a waste! Allan

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Does anyone have a pattern for a WD 40 they would be willing to share? thanks in advance phil

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This is from the Virtual Flyshop http://www.flyshop.com/Bench/index.html WD-40 Submitted by: David Grossman from Durango , Duranglers Fly Shop, Durango Colorado Originated by Mark Engler RECIPE HOOK: TMC 2487 Size 18-24THREAD: 8/0 Chocolate, Gray, OliveTAIL: Wood DuckABDOMEN: ThreadTHORAX: Dubbed Hare’s Ear (match thread)WINGCASE: Wood DuckHEAD: Sparse thread<PictureInstructions: The thread is tied in and advanced backward to barb point. A small clump of Wood Duck feather tips is tied in shank length and the butts are not trimmed. The thread is advanced forward over the butts covering them completely, but maintaining a very slender abdomen. Pull the Wood Duck butts back and dub a bulky thorax. The Wood Duck butts are then tied in over the large thorax as a wingcase and a very small head finishes the fly. Best in Chocolate Brown (#24) Hareline Dubbing. Does anyone have a pattern for a WD 40 they would be willing to share? thanks in advance phil

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Does anyone have a pattern for a WD 40 they would be willing to share? thanks in advance phil

Very simple and effective fly. Hook: TMC 2687 #18-22   Tail: Mallard or woodduck flank Abdomen: Chocolate Rabbit fur Wingcase: Same feather as tail   Thorax: Chocolate Rabbit fur Note: Can be tied in black or grey also. (I’ve never used anything but Chocolate)

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Does anyone have a pattern for a WD 40 they would be willing to share? thanks in advance phil

Hi ! Phil Look at:  http://www.visi.com/~mpv/flyfishing/nymphswap/wd40.html or http://www.flyshop.com/scripts/flies/details.cfm?flyname=wd%2d40 I wish this helpful denis

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Try http://www.four11.com. — Walter K. Prescott  100% Disabled/Retired U.S. Army Veteran "Always treat everyone the same way you wish to be treated." http://www.atlcon.net & http://www.mirabilis.com/950276 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone have the phone number / address for Tom Mann’s lures? I can’t find it anywhere, even http://www.tommann.com. Darren King — BreakPoint Outdoors Web Site: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~breakpt Hello Darren, Here’s the info you requested. Mann’s Bait Company 604 State Docks Road Eufaula, AL  36027 334-687-5716 Incidentally, there is no connection between Tom Mann and Mann’s Bait Company.  That’s why you couldn’t find any info at Tom’s site. Athough he was the founder of Mann’s Bait Company back in the 60’s, he sold his interest in the company many years ago.   Hope the info helps. Best Regards,          Trent Roberson            Rx F Fish  For Your Good Health, Fly Fish URL=http://www.xnet.com/~rxffish

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Anyone have the phone number / address for Tom Mann’s lures? I can’t find it anywhere, even http://www.tommann.com. Darren King — BreakPoint Outdoors Web Site: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~breakpt

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Anyone have the phone number / address for Tom Mann’s lures? I can’t find it anywhere, even http://www.tommann.com. Darren King — BreakPoint Outdoors Web Site: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~breakpt

Hello Darren, Here’s the info you requested. Mann’s Bait Company 604 State Docks Road Eufaula, AL  36027 334-687-5716 Incidentally, there is no connection between Tom Mann and Mann’s Bait Company.  That’s why you couldn’t find any info at Tom’s site. Athough he was the founder of Mann’s Bait Company back in the 60’s, he sold his interest in the company many years ago.   Hope the info helps. Best Regards,          Trent Roberson            Rx F Fish  For Your Good Health, Fly Fish URL=http://www.xnet.com/~rxffish

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I’ll be in Seattle area week of 1/6. Any decent steelheading in an hour’s drive? How about a good guide?

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I’ll be in Seattle area week of 1/6. Any decent steelheading in an hour’s drive? How about a good guide?

Great steelhead fishing within an hour of Seattle.  I’d recommend John Feirra (that spelling is wrong and I can’t find his card right now). Call Kauffman’s Fly shop in Seattle or Belluevue.  If John isn’t available they’re be able to line someone up for you. Good luck  (bring lots of clothes) Steve

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   I wouldn’t bother bringing your fishing gear unless you want to fish in some farmers feild. In case you haven’t noticed the Seattle area had a record snowfall in the last week, which is now in the prossess of melting. Creeks and streams have already started flooding, major rivers will probably start going over their banks tomorrow. I don’t expect anything to be fishable for a couple of weeks. — Bob Schmelzle

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  I wouldn’t bother bringing your fishing gear unless you want to fish in some farmers feild. In case you haven’t noticed the Seattle area had a record snowfall in the last week, which is now in the prossess of melting. Creeks and streams have already started flooding, major rivers will probably start going over their banks tomorrow. I don’t expect anything to be fishable for a couple of weeks. — Bob Schmelzle

The sixth is my next day off and I’ll be looking forward to fishing then.  The forcast is for decreasing rain and in the next five days the smaller rivers should drop into nice shape.  Within an hour of Seattle the Stilly comes to mind right off.  I’ll be trying some of the costal streams myself. Steve My Rod and Reel They comfort me.

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Will, Find a phone book when you get there, Call the nearest flyshop and ask where the fall run chinook are on the Rogue or Where it is open on the Umpqua (North and Main Stream). — Bob Crossley – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m gonna be in Roseburg for a few weeks (the rest of this month thru the first week of Oct.). Any info on flyfishng in that area or on the coast would be appreciated. Will

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Will, Find a phone book when you get there, Call the nearest flyshop and ask where the fall run chinook are on the Rogue or Where it is open on the Umpqua (North and Main Stream). — Bob Crossley I’m gonna be in Roseburg for a few weeks (the rest of this month thru the first week of Oct.). Any info on flyfishng in that area or on the coast would be appreciated. Will

Fall run Chinook…or Spring run or any run Chinook don’t readily take to flies.  (And when they do, you don’t want to mess with a forty pound fish spawning salmon who’s flesh is melting off right in front your eyes.  If you don’t break your rod, you’ll go into shock when you see what an ugly mess you’ve hauled in.) Steelhead, on the other hand, that’s a different story. The Umpqua is a wonderful Steelhead river with 30 miles of flyfishing only water.  That said, you should find a guide the first day or two. Steamboat Inn has guides, or try Joe Howell’s Fly shop in Idylwild. Good luck, Kevin

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I’m gonna be in Roseburg for a few weeks (the rest of this month thru the first week of Oct.). Any info on flyfishng in that area or on the coast would be appreciated. Will

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Will be at Denali Park entrance area in mid August, any dry fly creeks wadeable within walking or hitching distance that are not loaded with Glacier flour?

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Will be at Denali Park entrance area in mid August, any dry fly creeks wadeable within walking or hitching distance that are not loaded with Glacier flour?

The clearwater side streams have small grayling but you might find them, (the streams,) hard to reach.  I’d take some wet patterns with me too.  One high percentage shot is floating mouse or shrew patterns on the local lakes for pike.  Almost any lake you see in that country holds northern pike.  I’d recommend wire leaders. R. Wood in Alaska

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I still have not heard much information about fishing in the Herndon, Leesburg area for fly fisherman. Please E-mail me with info.

I lived in Virginia 12 years ago and used to fish a creek near Leesburg called Goose Creek.  No trout, but plenty of smallmouth and various other pan fish.  I can’t remember the road I used to] access the creek from.  I used to turn left off of Route 7 (west) prior to Leesburg.  You should be able to find it on a good map.

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I don’t know what you would consider to be "in your area", but, it’s hard to beat fly fishing in the Potomac for smallmouth bass.  Also, the Rapidan is an excellent early season spot for native brook trout.

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Abner) writes: I still have not heard much about …..

I imagine you have read Howell Raines book Fly Fishing Thru a Mid-life crisis   He talks about the area S. & W. of Washington, DC in Virginia. I thought it was an excellent book for all fly-fishers  Al

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