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If a person were to find themselves in Puerto Vallarta for a week, how, and where would one go about arranging to fly fish?  What equipment would you be able (or should) take with you?  What does a charter cost?  etc. Thanks, Steve

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I’d take a 10 or 9 wt.  Prefer at 10.  Take a sinking line and a floater and a basket.  Take flies surf fishermen use in california and big poppers.  You may not be able to find an experienced fly guide but you can catch fish. Possibilities should include Roosters, and Dorado,  Robalo (Snook),  Corvina (like a Red but in the surf and tricker.)  You may have to guide the guide but you should be able to find a Panga and a guia who can find fish.

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MR  Neeley  There are a number of charter boats at PV . You  will truely be in a fishing paradise . PLEASE take advantage of every moment .,  I have seen little kids go out on dugout like  canoes and catch 20 pound dolphin , on hand lines . The other pratice it for the locals to go out in their long boats with nets streches inbetween the boats . they can   vacumm a bay in a matter of hours . the bottom there is rocky , with the shore line with small pebbles . and some sand thrown in too . In addition to a fly rod i would bring a nice  light tackle spin outfit …and a good  a medium action bait reel.. i use the penn 965 . For Fly fishing i would  go to a  a surfing hot spot north of town called Punta de Mita .  there is a little bay right at the point . .  Wade out like 100 yards , on the rocky  bottom , and climb on top on one of the many bolders in the surf . In the incoming tide you can cast 360 degrees above and out of the water . It is unlimited what you can catch there in about 4 feet of water , but it includes , rock bass , little tuna , dolphin , and tarpon . I have seen sharks there also . The wave will come in and the water will be 6 feet deep , and as it passes  the water level will drop 2 feet. I have had the most luck in a incoming tide . In fact it is like a light switch .  Plug fishing is really great too .I like the small two gang  hook mirrorlures . The bottom is rocky , you have to have a very tough leader . Also , it is a long walk out , be sure to talk everything you need , cause it takes a while to walk back inshore .  Also just north of town , where  the ferry docks are , there is a great jetty , which is good for typical jetty fishig .   The boats there are , or have been quite old , all wood , look like they were made in the 30’s . BUT  this is slowly getting better. But their fishing gear on the boat is all very heavy duty . They are great guys , and will fish the way you want if you want to tease a fish and cast a fly at it . The marlin are only a few miles off shore .  This is a paradise , research it , and make the most out of your trip . Hale Savannah

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Walked back to my car, drove to a stop-n-rob in town. I went in to get

a coke and got a few looks for free. < Uhhh, I believe that’s phrased "some coke."  Or aren’t you a Bush fan?  <g

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One trip does seem memorable.

        indeed it was, poh-leece.  thanks for sharing. wayno

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Walked back to my car, drove to a stop-n-rob in town. I went in to get a coke and got a few looks for free. < Uhhh, I believe that’s phrased "some coke."  Or aren’t you a Bush fan?  <g

I’ve long since learned that putting the daily caffeine up one’s nose is easily misunderstood. Once you start down that dark path, forever will people think you’re into disco or something like that. Put down the chainsaw and listen to me. It’s time for us to join in the fight.

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Well, I did end up sneaking off for an hour or so this past week. The sun was out and the temperature got above freezing for a little while, but no go. There was a lot of ice and not a lot of moving water, and my #20 Adams didn’t seem to garner much attention from the fish. I guess I’m going to call this season closed and see what turns up in the spring. For now, it’s time to take the line off my reel and dress it, oil my reel (any reason not to use BreakFree CLP for that?), and worry about hunting for a few months. The final score for this season: Mike: A few trout, a few bass, a passel of bluegills, a few good days out on the water, a few good trips. If that’s not happiness, it’s a pretty good approximation. One trip does seem memorable. I went up to one reservoir near one town commonly referred to as a "People’s Republic." Stopped at the Mustard’s Last Stand for probably the most overpriced Chicago-Style hot dog I’ve ever had outside of an airport in my life. The guy behind the counter actually put ketchup on my dog. Ketchup! That, more than anything, proves that Boulder is a den of communists and so forth. Ended up on the water at about midmorning. Alas, I ended up on the wrong side of the water. About a quarter mile away I heard bass jumping. I decided to see what I could do where I was, and tied on a #10 yellow Wooly Bugger. Got a few sunfish on that, even though my casting sucked, my retrieves were clumsy, I don’t know much about streamer fishing, and I was FISHING STREAMERS IN A LAKE WITH A FREAKING FLOATING LINE! I don’t own anything but a floating line! It’s nice to know that hungry sunfish do exist. I got tempted to bonk them and call it a shore lunch, but they had a no-fires rule and some of the rangers were friends of mine and that could have been embarassing. I guess that’s why I had a couple of granola bars with me too. After lunch I moved over to where I heard the bass. Because of where the brush was, I had to wade to them. Oops, forgot my waders, but the water was warm enough so I just charged in. Oops again, soaked my billfold. Luckily, nothing with a magnetic stripe got wet. Tied on a #4 Muddler and started working it around the half-sunken trees. WHAM!!! My lure got positively hammered by a bass. And let me tell you, my friends, Mr. Micropterus Salmoides on a 5wt and 2x tippet is a kick in the ass. Spent a couple of minutes playing him, enough to temporarily scare the crap off of every other fish nearby, and then executed a skillful long-distance release. No, I don’t know how big he was. A chunky foot long, if I had to guess, and more energetic than my parents’ Golden Retriever after a triple espresso.  One moment I thought my rod was gonna break, and the next instant, "Hmmm,  the rod’s not bending any more." After a fight like that, it was time to rest the water. Never mind that my fly box was up on shore. I wandered out of the water, sat back, lit up, opened a warm MGD that made up the other half of my lunch, and got busy tying on another fly. Except for one tiny problem: Only one #4 Muddler and I just LDR’ed it. I decided to try my one other reasonably-large streamer, a heavily-weighted #4 Gray Ghost. Actually, aside from a really-chewed Bugger and a big-ass black Dahlberg Diver that I didn’t think I could cast, it was the only streamer, period. Then I noticed yet another oops. I had a knife, past tense. Must have slipped out of my pocket while I was fighting that bass. If any of you are wading in the Boulder Reservoir and find a half-serrated stainless Smith and Wesson folding knife, it’s probably mine. Eventually, I got the Gray Ghost tied on and went forth to do battle. I decided to try something different: casting into open water, letting it sink for several minutes, and a really slow retrieve. After about 30 casts, I thought I felt something. I lifted the rod and yanked on the line, and got another WHAM! Whatever I hooked into, well, it definitely was a fish. It never came near the surface and didn’t swim all that fast, but it seemed pretty big. I’m guessing a catfish-I’ve heard there are a few of them in that water. Alas, I only had maybe a minute, maybe less, and then got my fly back. I’m still to this day not sure what I had. Then I saw that the sun had moved over-time must have moved a little faster than I thought it had. Maybe my time resting the water went a little long, I don’t know. I edged up on shore and saw a City of Boulder Open Space Ranger standing there. A very pretty one. Now, the odds of my having an affair are pretty much zero, but this lady was one of the reasons that I am grateful every day that whatever gods may exist took the time to create the female of the species. "Let me guess, my license." "Yeah, if you don’t mind." Gave her the license, made some small talk. We knew a couple of people in common and caught up on gossip. I keep thinking, I’ve got my certificate, I’ve got a bachelor’s in biology, I should put in with some parks or wildlife department. They look like they have so much fun. Walked back to my car, drove to a stop-n-rob in town. I went in to get a coke and got a few looks for free. I guess they don’t have too many soaking-wet patrons in good weather. Drove 30 or so miles home, walked in the door, "Honey, you’re soaked. And you’re as red as a lobster." Put down the chainsaw and listen to me. It’s time for us to join in the fight.

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Some natives of ROFF are fairly wild. Some natives elsewhere, may object to being called "wild", but might accept "uncivilised", coupled perchance, with "indigenous"?  Some wild things are not necessarily native, or indeed indigenous, and are seldom civilised. Fishery biologists are not always native, and seldom uncivilised, although they may be wild. My "experience" of Florida, admittedly pure hearsay, is limited to hearing or reading about kidnappings and murders of unsuspecting, ( apparently mostly German), tourists, on or in the daily news. No information with regard to the respective professions of these people was usually tendered, although it may well be that one or the other group consisted either partly, perhaps even mainly, or indeed possibly even exclusively, of wild uncivilised native fishery biologists, with large ears and short hair, some of whom were driving too slowly, in the lane reserved for overtaking. Whether or not this was the reason for the kidnapping, and / or murder, is not clear. Somehow seems a sensible supposition nevertheless. Such instances appear to be rare in North Carolina, whether this is due to the absence of overtaking lanes, the lack of tourism, international news coverage, or the veritable plethora of legal eagles who it seems are still practising in that state, presumably thus rendering such activities less profitable, is a matter for considerable conjecture. It would certainly appear that some fishery biologists, whether native or not, although presumably  indigenous to somewhere or other, possibly even to Florida, may in fact be more civilised than others, notwithstanding the short hair and long ears, or even the florid complexion, and the tendency to slow driving in the wrong lane, all of which may, or may not,  be typical of fishery biologists, "Floridians", or tourists in general. This is demonstrated quite clearly by the peculiar propensity of this particular group,( although admittedly, as of yet, a statistically invalid sample ), for publishing apologies on ROFF. Complex terminology,  invariably indicative of considerable, in some circumstances, even colossal commitment, and indefatigable endeavour, perhaps finely tempered with a modicum of civilisation, on the part of those professions constrained to its use, in order to effect understandable and readily definable communication among themselves, may often cause confusion among large groups of the population, not currently conversant or capable, concerning such concepts. Interchangeable  use of specific professional terminology by the public at large should generally be avoided. Hope this clears everything up. Oleum et operam perdidi, hinc illae lacrumae.  Quot homines, tot sententiae, quis leget haec? TL MC — "If you have tried everything you know, and nothing works, then perhaps it is time to accept that you don

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Hello, Does anyone know good flyfishing classes offered around pacific NW (in September)?  I live in Seattle area and am new to flyfishing.  In fact I’ve never flyfished before but been curious about it for a while now.  I have couple of buddies who are also interested in flyfishing so we thought taking a class would be great way to get into the sport of flyfishing. Obviously we don’t have any equipments so we are looking for classes that rent necessary equipments. I am looking for weekend class (1-3 days). We don’t mind traveling as far as BC area (in fact we prefer that class is held away from Seattle proper so we can make this a road trip!) Any info, pointers, and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, KC

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Did you try fly shops?  Most of them either have lessons or know who does.  

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There are several fly shops in the area that will either have classes you can take or will simply take you out to the parking lot and show you how to cast. In Bellevue try:     Kaufmanns Streamborn (By K-Mart) http://www.kman.com     Orvis (NE 10th and Bellevie Way) In Woodinville try Swedes In Seattle try:     Kaufmanns Downtown store     Patricks Flyshop     Outdoor Emporium     Avid Angler http://www.AvidAngler.com I often go to many of these shops and every one of them have very helpful poeple who should be able to get you started. You might also try getting in touch with the Overlake Fly Fishing Club (http://www.offc.superhighway.net) or the Washington Fly Fishing Club to see if their members would be willing to help. I’m fairly certain you will get help at either one. Disclaimer, I have no affiliation with any of the above but merely enjoy each for their own pluses and minuses. Gary Johnson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, Does anyone know good flyfishing classes offered around pacific NW (in September)?  I live in Seattle area and am new to flyfishing.  In fact I’ve never flyfished before but been curious about it for a while now.  I have couple of buddies who are also interested in flyfishing so we thought taking a class would be great way to get into the sport of flyfishing. Obviously we don’t have any equipments so we are looking for classes that rent necessary equipments. I am looking for weekend class (1-3 days). We don’t mind traveling as far as BC area (in fact we prefer that class is held away from Seattle proper so we can make this a road trip!) Any info, pointers, and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, KC

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Yep, the Lindners have sold In-Fisherman to Primedia Inc. on Tuesday according to John Husar in his column in todays Chicago Tribune. Thoughts? Jay — I’d rather be chasing walleye’s at Tenmile Lake!

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If this means the Lindners tv presentations, thier style of presenting a full spectrum of fishing for ALL the various fish, the style and content of thier magazine, will all be changed or discarded,then yes,it’s truly a sad day for  thier thousands of fans.                                               ~ The Saint                                                        

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hell yeah its sad but all their magazines books and videos will be worth something in the future im keeping mine!!!                                      

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Any thoughts on the best of the intermediate casting videos?  I need to debug my casting and would like to try this before investing in an instructor.  mike

You’d be surprised what you local libray might have; and you might be able to put a hold on one that’s not in, or order it from another library.    I’ve checked out a number of them over the years.   Some fly fishing shops also rent them out. Before I teach someone how to fly fish, or even to cast, I always insist they watch the videos, first. Max http://www.inetarena.com/~mwi

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Any thoughts on the best of the intermediate casting videos?  I need to debug my casting and would like to try this before investing in an instructor.  mike

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There are a number of good casting videos.  Some of our favorites are:  "Joan Wulff’s Dynamics of Fly Casting", which is still fairly new on the market.  It covers "from solid basics to advanced techniques." $24.95 And… "Fly Casting with Lefty Kreh" ($29.95) and "All New Fly Casting Techniques", also Lefty Kreh ($19.95) Both Joan Wulff and Lefty Kreh are renouned for their casting ability. I couldn’t give you a clue on how to choose one over the other, as they are all excellent–but different. If you don’t mind spending the $, get Joan’s and one of Lefty’s.  It would be worth it. Lauren Hart, Brazos FlyFishers  http://www.brazosflyfishers.com Check out our Spring Specials posted on our website!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any thoughts on the best of the intermediate casting videos?  I need to debug my casting and would like to try this before investing in an instructor.  mike

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We have been promoting our software on the Internet for the past six months but are starting to run out of ideas. We have carried out the following: Search engine registration Newsgroup postings Link requests on related sites Limited banner advertising (0 hits) Is there any other form of marketing that can be used ? — Datefind-db YEAR 2000 Database and Spreadsheet Impact Analysis and Testing Software http://www.astuk.com – Download a FREE trial copy now and check your PCs

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   Chris    My first reaction is that there’s something missing!!    Not ‘what next?’. But, where would you like to go?    So. Who are you trying to sell to?!    Archie Gatekeeper: ‘My friend Archie, who lives here, is a good man. To speak with him you will need to know that, [com uk arde dear co demon net] is [T E C H D O G]. All good people can find archie at C.O.D.E’

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We have been promoting our software on the Internet for the past six months but are starting to run out of ideas. We have carried out the following: Search engine registration Newsgroup postings Link requests on related sites Limited banner advertising (0 hits) Is there any other form of marketing that can be used ?

What about cross-promotion? You can print your website on all the papers you issue, e.g. on your brochures, your price lists, on your letterhead, your calling cards, your invoices, etc. In return you can offer your brochures online. Phone:          +49-172-7412842 / +49-2162-58154 Fax:            +49-2162-58153

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Are your potential customers connected on the internet? Maybe… call some of them and ask them why they not or when they will buy your program? Perry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We have been promoting our software on the Internet for the past six months but are starting to run out of ideas. We have carried out the following: Search engine registration Newsgroup postings Link requests on related sites Limited banner advertising (0 hits) Is there any other form of marketing that can be used ?

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We have been promoting our software on the Internet for the past six months but are starting to run out of ideas. We have carried out the following: Search engine registration Newsgroup postings Link requests on related sites Limited banner advertising (0 hits) Is there any other form of marketing that can be used ?

<snip A site should be promoted off-line as well as on-line. Maybe you could use some of your advertising dollars to post small ads in market-related magazines or newsletters telling about your web site. (hint) You can even test how these ads are pulling by putting a specific web page in the ad … a page other than your home page designed only to receive visitors from that particular ad. — Bob Pardue, Advertising Specialties Learn To Increase Your Bottom-Line Profits Using Promotional Products. Free Reports and a Free Marketing-Zine. Visit me at: <http://www.theadpro.com

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We have been promoting our software on the Internet for the past six months but are starting to run out of ideas. Then you’re not thinking hard enough. I won’t give you the answers, but I’ll lead you to one of them by getting you thinking about it. The web can not only help customers find you but also help you find customers. Datefind-db YEAR 2000 Database and Spreadsheet Impact Analysis and Testing Software http://www.astuk.com – Download a FREE trial copy now and check your PCs Can I assume the Y2K product is what you’re selling? If so, there are thousands of potential customers out there for you. Many won’t beat a path to your door yet, so you’ll have to beat a path to theirs to get them to come in. Fly-by-night e-mail doesn’t work. Involvement does. Even a $500 lure on a $10,000 fishing pole won’t catch diddley if you don’t work it. If you were a person with a Y2K question, what would you be doing to find the answer, the solution or help? Put yourself in that person’s place and track them as you would any plains buffalo. Hint #1: Who is Peter de Jaeger and why am I asking you if you’ve heard of him/know him? Hint #2: How did I find the following? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Year 2000 to present challenges by Staff Sgt. Gerald P. Sonnenberg     SCOTT AIR FORCE BASE, Ill. (AFNS) — The next century is a mere four years away.  And as it gets closer, predictions of flood, famine and other disasters by people such as the French clairvoyant, Nostradamus, are on the minds of many.     Though frightening, those predictions are merely possibilities.     There is at least one prediction for the new millennium so likely that when it will occur has been narrowed down to the last second.     "The more I think about the year 2000 the more I realize the impact it will have on all of us at work and at home," said Gary Kuhn, an information systems specialist at the Air Force C4 Agency here.     Kuhn is referring to faulty date logic in computer systems.  This is a computer’s inability to handle the date change from 1999 to 2000 because systems were designed eliminating the first two digits of the year in software essential to the functions of thousands of computers.

Good luck! Best, Mac

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Chris, Were your postings to newsgroups taking about a tool for 2000? Or did you talk about a way for Systems Integrators to offer a new service to their customers? I didn’t understand the meaning of your offering (2000 impact analysis and testing?) until I visited your WebSite. I find your product as an interesting and usefull idea, though… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We have been promoting our software on the Internet for the past six months but are starting to run out of ideas.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A mate of mine has an old green heart rod that he has had from childhood in england(about 50 years ago). It has a tip section made from split cane. the rod is a five peice and casts about a size five line. The question is, does any one know if it is a normal thing for such a rod to have a different type of tip or it is a hybrid. He still catches fish on it when he feels nostalgic. Any help would be gratefully received. Neil Grose Tasmania Australia

Hi Neil Day before yesterday I was in the International Fly Fishing Center in Livingston looking at the rod display and observed a green heart rod with a split bamboo tip. I should have paid more attention when reading the information on the rod but I thing this practice was fairly common. Take care & … — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Catalog,Tips & Tricks, Fishing Reports, & NeverSink at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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writes: A mate of mine has an old green heart rod that he has had from childhood in england(about 50 years ago). It has a tip section made from split cane. the rod is a five peice and casts about a size five line. The question is, does any one know if it is a normal thing for such a rod to have a different type of tip or it is a hybrid. He still catches fish on it when he feels nostalgic. Any help would be gratefully received. Neil Grose

Hi Neil, Before Hiram Leonard popularized the 6-strip split cane rod in the 1870’s, almost all of the "bamboo" rods were combinations of a split cane tip with the rest of the rod made from hardwoods such as greenheart, lancewood, monkeywood,etc.  Originally these tips were 3 strip tip sections, then 4, and finally 6 strip pieces.  Although the tips were made out of strips, the edges were rounded off to make it blend in with the rest of the rod. These tips were also made out of Calcutta cane as Tonkin cane was not introduced for rod building until about the turn of the century.  It was not until the 6 strip entire cane rod was popularized that the builders stopped rounding off the edges leaving the hexagonal shape that we are now so familiar with.   If the tip section of your rod has rounded edges or is made from only 3 or 4 strips you may have a much older rod in your possession.                                Hope this helps,                                       Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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A mate of mine has an old green heart rod that he has had from childhood in england(about 50 years ago). It has a tip section made from split cane. the rod is a five peice and casts about a size five line. The question is, does any one know if it is a normal thing for such a rod to have a different type of tip or it is a hybrid. He still catches fish on it when he feels nostalgic. Day before yesterday I was in the International Fly Fishing Center in Livingston looking at the rod display and observed a green heart rod with a split bamboo tip. I should have paid more attention when reading the information on the rod but I thing this practice was fairly common.

This was pretty standard design, greenheart doesn’t behave well in very thin sections whilst well built cane does.  Another common variation was whole cane bottom/built cane top – especially in spinning and worming tackle, bait fishers often used Whole Tonkin cane/Built cane/Whole Spanish reed combinations. Modern composites are not immune from this sort of thing, I still have a rod with glassfibre butt and carbon fibre top. I haven’t used it for a few years, must dig it out sometime and give it a try. As long as the cane is kept well varnished, you inspect it frequently and avoid overloading it, the rod should be good for another 50 years.  Now; does he have a silk line to cast with it? —

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A mate of mine has an old green heart rod that he has had from childhood in england(about 50 years ago). Now; does he have a silk line to cast with it? Derek Moody

How about a horse hair line ? Ernie Harrison

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A mate of mine has an old green heart rod that he has had from childhood in england(about 50 years ago). Now; does he have a silk line to cast with it? Derek Moody How about a horse hair line ? Ernie Harrison

nope, neither. An old buggered cortland D/T #5 is what he casts on it.

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I’ve heard that someone makes a CD-ROM on fly tying.  If you have info on who make this, please respond ASAP.  Need as going away gift. — Kelly Mills http://www.vni.net/~hitech/kmills.htm

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I’ve heard that someone makes a CD-ROM on fly tying.  If you have info
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http://www.vni.net/~hitech/kmills.htm

The current Fly Fisherman has an ad for the CD you want, with the phone number to order it. I also saw this CD at a fly shop in Indianapolis so it is probably being stocked in many flyshops now. The Virtual Flyfisher web site has a review of it in this month’s online magazine.

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Kelly,    I have just received a copy of ”Tying Flies for Trout” by Elkwing Productions, P.O. Box 789, Waitsfield, VT 05673.    In my first look through it, I was somewhat impressed. It offers quite a variety of fly recipes, and includes six videos that take the tyer through the entire process for tying a particular fly.    It works on Macs and PCs and the production values are pretty good, although there are a problem or two (it was hard to hear the commentator during the tying videos). But the photos are good and you can blow them up quite large to get a good look at them.    Sorry I don’t have a phone number, but the above info might help you get started. All the rest of the info is at the office.    By the way, I am the outdoor editor for the Great Falls Tribune, in Great Falls, MT. just to let you know this was an objective opinion and not an employee shilling their product.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kelly,   I have just received a copy of ”Tying Flies for Trout” by Elkwing Productions, P.O. Box 789, Waitsfield, VT 05673.   In my first look through it, I was somewhat impressed. It offers quite a variety of fly recipes, and includes six videos that take the tyer through the entire process for tying a particular fly.   It works on Macs and PCs and the production values are pretty good, although there are a problem or two (it was hard to hear the commentator during the tying videos). But the photos are good and you can blow them up quite large to get a good look at them.   Sorry I don’t have a phone number, but the above info might help you get started. All the rest of the info is at the office.   By the way, I am the outdoor editor for the Great Falls Tribune, in Great Falls, MT. just to let you know this was an objective opinion and not an employee shilling their product.

I’ve been looking for the same thing.  The phone number to Waitsfield "Learn to Tie Flies on CD"  is 800 411-3984.  There is a small add on page 76 in January/February issue of FlyRod&Reel. Dennis DiAugustine

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Hi Kelly, A good fly tying CD Rom is Tying Flies for TROUT by Dick Stewart & Farrow Allen.  It uses video as well as still photography to bring a wide array of flies to you. It my very well be the same CD as talked about by others on this thread. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (catalog avail)

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I’ve heard that someone makes a CD-ROM on fly tying.  If you have info
on who make this, please respond ASAP.  Need as going away gift.
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        We carry the Dick Stewart & Farrow Allen CD "Tying Flies for Trout" which has fly tying video clips, patterns, instruction for tying the patterns, reference materials concerning fly tying and the like. The price is $49.95 + shipping.         To order call us (HunterBanks Co., the southeast’s premier fly shop) at 800-227-6732.

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Hello! Yes, CD ROM with databse of flies is manufactured by: Fine Line Classic Collection address: Langoddveien 49 N-1335 Snaroya Norway Phone: 47 66849622 Fax: 47 67532840 They have no mail address. Product name: FlyLab for Windows The software is in two versions. FlyLab ver. 1.2 Light on discettes contains 300 patters. Price NOK 495,- FlyLab ver. 1.2 Full on discettes or CD Rom contains 900 patterns. Pris NOK 995,- Prices ex. mailing costs. Hardware spec: Minimum 386 /4mb RAM 256 color 36 Mb HD Windows 3.1 Rec. Hw. 486 /8 Mb RAM 32/64 color 48 Mb Hd Windows 3.11 The databse gives possibilities to add privat patterns as well as making notes on the original. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to mail me. Best Regards Erik R=F8hne

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I’ve heard that someone makes a CD-ROM on fly tying.  If you have info on who make this, please respond ASAP.  Need as going away gift. The current Fly Fisherman has an ad for the CD you want, with the phone number to order it. I also saw this CD at a fly shop in Indianapolis so it is probably being stocked in many flyshops now. The Virtual Flyshop web site has a review of it in this month’s online magazine.

Try http://www.flyshop.com/Mall/Elkwing "Tying Flies for Trout" by Farrow and Allen. — Mike Tucker-  The Virtual Flyshop Web: http://www.flyshop.com Phone: 970/225-6445

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I just got my orvis catalog in the mail today..ah, it’s January but spring is already in the air…So, my fellow fly fishermen, what are we buying Orvis braided leader system..it seems like it would be great. I want to pick it up, but first i’d like to know if anyone knows how good it is..Thanks.. Frankie… NYC fly-fisherman..just a 2 hour drive to the Beaverkill..

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The advertisement for Jeep that starts…       "A Tradition Runs Through It…." About made me lose chow… Tim Walker

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The advertisement for Jeep that starts…       "A Tradition Runs Through It…." About made me lose chow…

I hope the Royal Coachman does not make you nauseous; it was invented by Mary Orvis Marbury.  Unless I am mistaken, you must carry your line coiled up in your hand.  The thought of using a modern fly reel, which traces its lineage back to the CFO reel developed by Charles F. Orvis, is repugnant. On the other hand, it may be the Jeep/Orvis advertising executives who make you sick.  The thought that anyone would exploit fly fishing’s traditions, your heritage, for commercial gain could upset you.  That is why I only fish with tackle donated to me by Trappist monks.  They have to give up both fishing and sex. Shudder! Unfortunately, fewer and fewer folks are willing to make that double sacrifice so I am running low on tackle.  I am therefore looking forward to drooling over my Orvis catalogue.  I imperil my immortal soul by dealing with them (the toll free #, 1-800-666-6666, is scary) but what the heck.  Some of it is nice stuff. — Keep your stick on the ice.

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The advertisement for Jeep that starts…       "A Tradition Runs Through It…." snip Yeah, Tim, but if you keep reading, it only gets worse: "…The Orvis name informs (sic) the spirit of every fly fisherman…in America"   WHAT does that mean??!!

Inform (vt) does not just mean to impart knowledge, it also means 1) obs to give material form or to arrange 2)to give character or essence; hence to be characteristic of 3)to train or discipline 4)to guide or direct.  I don’t know why Webster says that 1 is obsolete; Aristotelian and Thomistic metaphysicians are always prattling on about formal causes informing material causes. So how do you like that?  Madison avenue says that Orvis gives you character, disciplines you, and/or guides you.  And I thought that they just had some nice stuff for sale.  If it were not for those ads I might have gone to my grave without recogning my essential Orvisness. — Keep your stick on the ice.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The advertisement for Jeep that starts…       "A Tradition Runs Through It…." snip Yeah, Tim, but if you keep reading, it only gets worse: "…The Orvis name informs (sic) the spirit of every fly fisherman…in America"   WHAT does that mean??!! Inform (vt) does not just mean to impart knowledge, it also means 1) obs to give material form or to arrange 2)to give character or essence; hence to be characteristic of 3)to train or discipline 4)to guide or direct.  I don’t know why Webster says that 1 is obsolete; Aristotelian and Thomistic metaphysicians are always prattling on about formal causes informing material causes.

Thanks for the vocabulary lesson!  Now that I know what they’re talking about, somehow I don’t feel much better.  However, I agree with the people who have posted to the effect that this drivel is an ad, after all; Orvis is just using the media to try to turn a buck, and I don’t sweat them that.  My beef is with the media…do they really think we are a bunch of sheep? Anyhow, seeing the ad did not stop me from placing an order from the same catalog.  Boycotting is a bit extreme, I think. Paul DiConza NY Capital District Angler

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: The advertisement for Jeep that starts… :       "A Tradition Runs Through It…." : About made me lose chow… : On the other hand, it may be the Jeep/Orvis advertising executives who : make you sick.  The thought that anyone would exploit fly fishing’s Norman Maclean must be rolling in his grave.  His son and his daughter must not have ever read the book, or they missed the point.  Ol’ Norm was very protective that his story was personal and he never wanted to exploit it for commercial gains.  Now he’s dead and his family is raping his memories.  If I ever see an orvis edition jeep at my fishing hole, I think I’ll let the air out of it’s tires for Norm…I think he’d approve. Tim Walker

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Who would buy an Orvis Cherokee…maybe the same tweedy types that keep Orvis in business and FF a bad name. Went way too far this time pa.

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Tim Walker suggests that he would let the air out of the tires of any Orvis Jeep parked near his fishing spot and that Norman McLean would approve. Tim – If I ever see anyone letting the air out of any fisherman’s vehicle (of whatever kind), I’ll do my best to see if I can get the person arrested. Making such a suggestion, even as hyperbole, reflects poor judgment (among other things).                                               Dallas, TX                                               Ennis, MT

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