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Hearing the overwhelming voice of the American people,  a bi-partisan bill was introduced to enact the Roadless Rule in law. The bill already  has 172 votes in the house.  Im glad to see SOME politicians still care about the wishes of the people of America. Also, Bush again tries to make taxpayers  pay for corporate pollution. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2444-2002Jun5.html do Nothing Bush: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/06/opinion/06HERB.html Air Force Col suspended for bad mouthing Bush: http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/3393351.htm — Sent by  arvon45 from yahoo included in com This is a spam protected message. Please answer with reference header. Posted via http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/new

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\ If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is.\

The problem isnt having one or two children. The problem is immigration and having 5 children at a pop similar to other situations in third wolrd countries. But I do see your point.

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What type of reel do you use?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars. If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is. Dale Anderson Durango, Colorado

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\ If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is.\ The problem isnt having one or two children. The problem is immigration and having 5 children at a pop similar to other situations in third wolrd countries.

So do we owe you a belated congratulations?

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To anyone that replies to this, please remove rec.outdoors.fishing.fly from the send to list.

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\ Most Americans, being normal people who worship the Creator in some manner or another, rather than the creations, don’t know what a "roadless rule" is, let alone support it.\

The creator and it’s creations are one in the same.  who are you to judge? And you don’t speak for the majority of Americans you right wing fascist. Of course, you and your selfish, gluttony kind want to use up everything here because "it doesnt matter. We are all going to a better place in the end". Foolish. \Why don’t you go live in the damn woods and worship your damn trees and leave normal people alone?  H Y P O C R I T E.\

I dont worship trees, and I advocate logging. What I dont advocate is selfish lazy bastards who want to European-ize America making every last corenr tame and Walmartized. Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars. I just want a little balance. \" The greatest thing about a tree god created is what man can do with it after it is cut down".   – Rush Limbaugh \ Brilliant. Never mind trees provide us with oxygen and a cooling effect on our climate. You quote true idiocy.

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Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars.

If you want your grandkids to know that, don’t have any kids… This isn’t a joke, it is a solution to the problem you have with our world as it is. Dale Anderson Durango, Colorado

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forcing boogeyman religion on someone. my creator is between my legs

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – \ Most Americans, being normal people who worship the Creator in some manner or another, rather than the creations, don’t know what a "roadless rule" is, let alone support it.\ The creator and it’s creations are one in the same.  who are you to judge? And you don’t speak for the majority of Americans you right wing fascist. Of course, you and your selfish, gluttony kind want to use up everything here because "it doesnt matter. We are all going to a better place in the end". Foolish. \Why don’t you go live in the damn woods and worship your damn trees and leave normal people alone?  H Y P O C R I T E.\ I dont worship trees, and I advocate logging. What I dont advocate is selfish lazy bastards who want to European-ize America making every last corenr tame and Walmartized. Id like my grandkids to be able to know at least a tiny bit of the land is still wild, and the night sky is still filled with many stars. I just want a little balance. \" The greatest thing about a tree god created is what man can do with it after it is cut down".   – Rush Limbaugh \ Brilliant. Never mind trees provide us with oxygen and a cooling effect on our climate. You quote true idiocy.

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forcing boogeyman religion on someone. my creator is between my legs

Hey, wow, that’s pretty darned good……except you misspelled "cheeks". Wolfgang interesting name, is that portugese?

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They also caught a jurassic trout… here’s the web and mail address – http://www.carlsons.co.uk as i said, the flies are satisfactory, but not the quality ties that you can get from waldo. jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What’s their web-address, those flies catch Upper class fish! — Op "Look, strange women lying around in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.  Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the masses, not from some  farcical aquatic ceremony.  I mean, if I went around saying I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away. -Dennis the (Bloody) peasant- All Companies will have an incident now and then with one product or another but it’s the way they handle it and the extent to which they are willing to go to make amends that set the class acts apart from the rest….and that goes for the guy at the local shop as well. Maybe I’m just being cynical, Hawkeye, but I wonder whether the fact that you discussed this problem on ROFF had anything to do with Orvis’s extreme generousity? some time ago, i posted about problems with some flies i bought from Carlson’s, a tackle shop in England.  the flies cost 45 cents, and were well worth the price…BUT, they were shipped by regular mail in an envelope.  In the crossing to my mailbox, the flies were damaged because of the packaging – or lack thereof.  i sent a copy of my post to Carlson’s.  soon afterward, the owner of Carlson’s sent me an e-mail apologizing for the problem. a few weeks later, i received replacements in a nice flybox – all in good condition, and with a nice note. heck…maybe you guys have some value after all. <G jeff

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Maybe I’m just being cynical, Hawkeye, but I wonder whether the fact that you discussed this problem on ROFF had anything to do with Orvis’s extreme generousity?

Maybe I’m just being cynical, rw, but I wonder if you’re not overestimating the influence of ROFF? Related good service anecdote: I had one of Sci Anglers Mastery Series AST Lines that got worn out in a single season. I found this kind of frustrating since it was an expensive line… but in retrospect I probably could have taken better care of it (it wasn’t stored well and I used a bunch of DEET bug stuff while fishing the line on numerous occasions). I was looking in my local fly shop and the owner suggested rather than buy a new line, I might want to send the old one back to SA. I did. A couple of weeks later I got brand new one, no questions asked.  I’m loyal to both the Shop and SA now after such good support from both. And my line is still in good shape – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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All Companies will have an incident now and then with one product or another but it’s the way they handle it and the extent to which they are willing to go to make amends that set the class acts apart from the rest….

At work, if someone goofs and worries we might lose a customer, I remind them it’s actually a great opportunity.  You buy from company A and there’s nothing wrong with the product.  You buy from company B, but there’s something wrong with the product.  Company B falls all over themselves trying to make up for it, and goes "beyond the call of duty".  Which company do you buy from next time?  Not an easy one to answer, but lots of people would choose company B. Regards, Jeff

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All Companies will have an incident now and then with one product or another but it’s the way they handle it and the extent to which they are willing to go to make amends that set the class acts apart from the rest….and that goes for the guy at the local shop as well.

Maybe I’m just being cynical, Hawkeye, but I wonder whether the fact that you discussed this problem on ROFF had anything to do with Orvis’s extreme generousity? — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Based on the couple experiences with orvis customer service this would be typical. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All Companies will have an incident now and then with one product or another but it’s the way they handle it and the extent to which they are willing to go to make amends that set the class acts apart from the rest….and that goes for the guy at the local shop as well. Maybe I’m just being cynical, Hawkeye, but I wonder whether the fact that you discussed this problem on ROFF had anything to do with Orvis’s extreme generousity? — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Based on the couple experiences with orvis customer service this would be typical.

—– I have NEVER regretted buying anything from Orvis.  Hard to beat their customer service.  Now, if only the phone company was like Orvis… —- Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

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I received a call today from an Orvis company representative for the northeast inquiring about the problems I had with their Clearwater breathable waders.  Apparently, the owner of the Orvis shop I frequent called them to voice his displeasure over the matter and he told them about my experience with two brand new pairs leaking.  The rep. informed me of a problem they had with a vendor they had contracted with to produce the waders and how they identified the cause and remedied the situation.  He was very apologetic and assured me the problems were behind them (incidentally, the problems were even more prevelant in their stockingfoot models) For my troubles he is sending me a new pair of waders at no cost which I think is very fair and frankly unexpected since I had received a credit for the ones I returned.  Now I’ve got waders aplenty having just received new Dan Bailey breathables (and love them). All Companies will have an incident now and then with one product or another but it’s the way they handle it and the extent to which they are willing to go to make amends that set the class acts apart from the rest….and that goes for the guy at the local shop as well. Natty (wishing he had given me a 9′ nine weight for salmon fishing instead  :-)  ) Before you buy.

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What’s their web-address, those flies catch Upper class fish! — Op "Look, strange women lying around in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.  Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the masses, not from some  farcical aquatic ceremony.  I mean, if I went around saying I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away. -Dennis the (Bloody) peasant-

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All Companies will have an incident now and then with one product or another but it’s the way they handle it and the extent to which they are willing to go to make amends that set the class acts apart from the rest….and that goes for the guy at the local shop as well. Maybe I’m just being cynical, Hawkeye, but I wonder whether the fact that you discussed this problem on ROFF had anything to do with Orvis’s extreme generousity? some time ago, i posted about problems with some flies i bought from Carlson’s, a tackle shop in England.  the flies cost 45 cents, and were well worth the price…BUT, they were shipped by regular mail in an envelope.  In the crossing to my mailbox, the flies were damaged because of the packaging – or lack thereof.  i sent a copy of my post to Carlson’s.  soon afterward, the owner of Carlson’s sent me an e-mail apologizing for the problem. a few weeks later, i received replacements in a nice flybox – all in good condition, and with a nice note. heck…maybe you guys have some value after all. <G jeff

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Maybe I’m just being cynical, Hawkeye, but I wonder whether the fact that you discussed this problem on ROFF had anything to do with Orvis’s extreme generousity?

I guess it’s possible RW…. the truth is I never gave that a thought. Given the fact that he called me at my home # AND left a message on my voice mail at the office I seriously doubt it was a ROFF induced action.  He told me that he got my #s from the owner of the Orvis shop who called him about the wader probs.  I wouldn’t for a second doubt the shop owner’s word and have no cause to doubt the reps either. Your point is well taken though…is ROFF really that well known in "the biz"? Maybe in the future I should not mention brand/company names?  I for one would like to know when someone else has had a problem with a product. Natty

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All Companies will have an incident now and then with one product or another but it’s the way they handle it and the extent to which they are willing to go to make amends that set the class acts apart from the rest….and that goes for the guy at the local shop as well. Maybe I’m just being cynical, Hawkeye, but I wonder whether the fact that you discussed this problem on ROFF had anything to do with Orvis’s extreme generousity?

some time ago, i posted about problems with some flies i bought from Carlson’s, a tackle shop in England.  the flies cost 45 cents, and were well worth the price…BUT, they were shipped by regular mail in an envelope.  In the crossing to my mailbox, the flies were damaged because of the packaging – or lack thereof.  i sent a copy of my post to Carlson’s.  soon afterward, the owner of Carlson’s sent me an e-mail apologizing for the problem. a few weeks later, i received replacements in a nice flybox – all in good condition, and with a nice note. heck…maybe you guys have some value after all. <G jeff

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I have guide trips booked on the Bitterroot and Beaverhead in late August. Some of the fly shop reports say don’t bother going. My guides say there will be plenty of water and that the Bitterroot will start having more water in the next few days from dam releases. What is the real story?? Thanks.

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It’ll be worth it no matter what. One of the more beautiful places in the world you can spend time sitting in a boat. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have guide trips booked on the Bitterroot and Beaverhead in late August. Some of the fly shop reports say don’t bother going. My guides say there will be plenty of water and that the Bitterroot will start having more water in the next few days from dam releases. What is the real story?? Thanks.

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The Beaverhead is absolutely not fishable!  Just kidding, actually there have been some good reports.  It looked easier to fish from a boat than wading though. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Fishable from ‘dam releases’??? The Bitterroot is a freestone. There is Painted Rocks Reservoir but it’s not a large body of water and I don’t think they are going to increase the release from it any time soon (at least till rain and/or September comes. I even question it then. There is still water in the river but the lower portion is less than half its normal flow. FWP has already requested people not fish or restrict their fishing to early morning/late evening. What with the dry conditions and all, don’t be surprised if they temporarily ban fishing. The Blackfoot, for example, reached it’s ‘drought implementation plan’ level yesterday. Now they are asking people to stop irrigating, etc. so they can keep a minimum flow in there for the fish. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have guide trips booked on the Bitterroot and Beaverhead in late August. Some of the fly shop reports say don’t bother going. My guides say there will be plenty of water and that the Bitterroot will start having more water in the next few days from dam releases. What is the real story?? Thanks.

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Hello, I recently was in my local K-Mart and checked out the fishing section, while I would find little use in ,most of the products they sell I did find what I precieve to be a bargain. I found Scientific Anglers AirCel Supreme2  WF-6 and-7-  F/S  wet tip III lines for $10.00 each, the orignal price was $36.00 so I picked up two 7wts. and one 6wt.

Those were a bargain, unless they had been ‘cooking’ in the back of the store for years. Don’t tinker with them: you’ll end up spoiling perfectly good lines. Here on UK stillwaters we use sink tips when we need to get wet flies and nymphs down a foot or three deeper than could be achieved with a full floater. Sink tips aren’t quite as sweet to cast as floaters (or even full sinking lines), but they are handy to have in the armoury. You might find them useful for getting nymphs down a bit in faster/deeper streams. Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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Hello, I recently was in my local K-Mart and checked out the fishing section, while I would find little use in ,most of the products they sell I did find what I precieve to be a bargain. I found Scientific Anglers AirCel Supreme2  WF-6 and-7-  F/S  wet tip III lines for $10.00 each, the orignal price was $36.00 so I picked up two 7wts. and one 6wt. My questions are has anybody used this line in the sink tip much, I have never used a sink tip and if it would be better to have a top of the line (line) I would use the three I have to trade w/friends and purchase a higher quality line. Does this line have a stiff finish (AirCell)  also my last question is about what line wt. to use, I have a fast 6.wt. and the directions say to use a line wt. heavier if you want to trim the 10ft. tip into say a 6ft. I find a floater is just fine for the majority of my fishing but there are times when a sink tip would be good, Does the weight then come from the tip itself? and if I trimmed back a 6wt. line would it be too light to load easily? if anybody can help please reply I just know $10.00 either way is worth it I have a new S.A. catalog and do not see the old lines anymore and have never had an older catalog so I am not famaliar w/ this product. Thanks…

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My WF4F line is a $10 SA from kmart. nice dull green color, handles well. I like it. There’s the chance it will wear out sooner than a high dollar line, but at $10, just get another one! Since a WF line has most of its weight at the sharp end, cutting 5′ of the sinking section off should have a noticeable effect on how it casts, plus, you will lose the tapered section. But, if you feel like experimenting, all you are risking is $10. Personally, I would leave it as is, at least for the time being. Charlie Quinton Laramie, Wyo.

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Good Deal. I have used the same line for a couple of seasons in 6& 8 wt. (but I don’t use sink tips all that much anyway)  It is shorter than I’m use to … About 85 ft  I think.  I have found it easy casting and long casting.  It is much better than some Cortland sink tips I’ve used.   I think I purchased the lines for about $20 a few years back on a closeout and they are worth every penny! I use the same wt line as the rod and I think I have cut one of these lines back to 8′ with no problem.  If the line is like mine it is a fairly slow sink tip (although the box states fast 1.50"-2" per second) and doesn’t overload the way some of the other sink tips do.  I suspect the sinking portion on this line is accomplished more by it’s small tip diameter than extra weight. I use SA Mastery Bonefish lines mostly but this line is quite similar to SA Ultra with regard to stiffness and feel.  It also works fine in cold weather with little memory. I wish our Kmart’s carried the stuff.  My good find lately was at a Wal-Mart.  2mm Neoprene socks for $8 and 2mm neoprene gloves w/ finger cutouts for $9—-Hunting Dept. Tip:  Try a very short leader with the sink tip (12" then 18" tippet)  It will cast better,the fly will sink better, and the fish don’t seem mind. Good Fishing

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I recently was in my local K-Mart and checked out the fishing section, while I would find little use in ,most of the products they sell I did find what I precieve to be a bargain. I found Scientific Anglers AirCel Supreme2  WF-6 and-7-  F/S  wet tip III lines for $10.00 each, the orignal price was $36.00 so I picked up two 7wts. and one 6wt. My questions are has anybody used this line in the sink tip much, I have never used a sink tip and if it would be better to have a top of the line (line) I would use the three I have to trade w/friends and purchase a higher quality line. Does this line have a stiff finish (AirCell)  also my last question is about what line wt. to use, I have a fast 6.wt. and the directions say to use a line wt. heavier if you want to trim the 10ft. tip into say a 6ft. I find a floater is just fine for the majority of my fishing but there are times when a sink tip would be good, Does the weight then come from the tip itself? and if I trimmed back a 6wt. line would it be too light to load easily? if anybody can help please reply I just know $10.00 either way is worth it I have a new S.A. catalog and do not see the old lines anymore and have never had an older catalog so I am not famaliar w/ this product. Thanks…

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I should have printed the message, but didn’t.  Someone submitted an exercise where you use the tip of your fly rod and practice casting indoors.  Could that person re-send that message?  I’m new to fly fishing and would like to practice indoors.

This practice method seems to have been proposed first by Lee Wulff about 40 years ago, mainly to teach timing.  Instead of a fly line you use a thickish rope of lightweight wool, such as is used to tie curtains or ornamental parcels, about 10 to 12 feet long.  It works. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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I should have printed the message, but didn’t.  Someone submitted an exercise where you use the tip of your fly rod and practice casting indoors.  Could that person re-send that message?  I’m new to fly fishing and would like to practice indoors. Thanks and Good Fishing Gary

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Gary, what you do is run thick yarn through the guides of the end of your rod as if it was the actual fly line. Its a good way to begin to understand the principles of casting, for example casting a wide loop as opposed to a narrow loop, that sort of thing. Hope this helps. Kevin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I should have printed the message, but didn’t.  Someone submitted an exercise where you use the tip of your fly rod and practice casting indoors.  Could that person re-send that message?  I’m new to fly fishing and would like to practice indoors. Thanks and Good Fishing Gary

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Bob, While not in the Akron area, I can give some advice re:  fly fishing in Ohio. Recommend you fish a stream in the tailwaters downstream from a dam.    Barring that, get in the middle of any rocky stream with riffles and fish the pools right up against the bank.  My fishing buddies and I are doing well with a 4 or 5 wt. rod with floating line.  We’re catching smallmouth bass, sunfish and crappie with size 6 or 8 surface pan poppers, Sneaky Pete’s and crickets.  I also have had some luck with a size 6 minnow streamer.  Best time is from sunup ’till late morning. Largemouth don’t appear to be at all active in this summer heat; you can try but I wouldn’t spend a lot of time on them.  It’s not Montana or Wyoming, but we’re having a lot of fun!  Forget the lakes; they’re for boat and bait fishing.  And contrary to what the shops tell you (remember, they sell bait), we fly flingers appear to be the only ones catching fish this summer!  The bait people aren’t doing so hot (unless you like catfish and carp), and people going for the big stuff are walking away empty handed.  Even a lot of the big, bad bass fishermen with their 4 quadrillion horsepower motors are docking their boats during July and August.  The only trout stream is the Mad River west of Columbus in the springtime and steelhead up by Lake Erie in the late Fall.  Good luck and good fishing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On my way to ohio for a week 1 Aug, anyone know of any flyfishing to be done there?  I have made some phone calls and the shops all seem to say bring my spinning outfit, which I don’t want to do.  I will be around the Akron area but I will travel to get to a good spot.  Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bob

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On my way to ohio for a week 1 Aug, anyone know of any flyfishing to be done there?  I have made some phone calls and the shops all seem to say bring my spinning outfit, which I don’t want to do.  I will be around the Akron area but I will travel to get to a good spot.  Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bob

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If you mean fly-fishing for trout, check out the Clear Fork (south of Mansfield) of the Mad River (around Urbana).  You can find a good write-up of both on the Virtual Flyshop at http://www.flyshop.com/Centers/Midwest/7-98Mad/index.html : On my way to ohio for a week 1 Aug, anyone know of any flyfishing to be done : there?  I have made some phone calls and the shops all seem to say bring my : spinning outfit, which I don’t want to do.  I will be around the Akron area but : I will travel to get to a good spot.  Any info would be greatly appreciated. : Thanks Bob —                        http://members.tripod.com/~trunculo/index

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Sorry to follow-up my own post, but I meant to say Clear Fork *or* Mad River. : If you mean fly-fishing for trout, check out the Clear Fork (south of : Mansfield) of the Mad River (around Urbana).  You can find a good              ^^ —                        http://members.tripod.com/~trunculo/index

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The Mad river is said to be one of the finest trout rivers in the state, however it is a several hour drive to get to it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On my way to ohio for a week 1 Aug, anyone know of any flyfishing to be done there?  I have made some phone calls and the shops all seem to say bring my spinning outfit, which I don’t want to do.  I will be around the Akron area but I will travel to get to a good spot.  Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bob

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On my way to ohio for a week 1 Aug, anyone know of any flyfishing to be done there?  I have made some phone calls and the shops all seem to say bring my spinning outfit, which I don’t want to do.  I will be around the Akron area but I will travel to get to a good spot.  Any info would be greatly

appreciated. For trout your best shot in the near-Akron area would be the Clear Fork of the Mohican, down around Mansfield.  I’d guess that’s about 50 miles from Akron, though, so it’d be a long haul. Lately the pond and small lake fishing hasn’t been too good.  Bluegills will still bite, but of course bluegills will *always* bite.  The water has warmed up and the largemouths have developed lockjaw, although you might get lucky.  Try some of the ponds in the Cuyahoga Valley National Recreation Area north of Akron.  Stay OUT of the lower Cuyahoga River – too polluted to mess with. If you can get into the upper Cuyahoga (anywhere upstream of the dam in Cuyahoga Falls) you can probably do alright.  Best of luck. — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA. Dave Felter

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA. Dave Felter

one thing about runoff, well two things…. 1) you can always, always fish no matter how high or muddy and nail nice ones. 2) you can always, always go high enough in altitude to the sources which should be in fine shape. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA.

The rivers are dropping and clearing.  I think you’ll have good fishing. 2) you can always, always go high enough in altitude to the sources which should be in fine shape.

How heavy does my sink-tip have to be to get my fly down in the snow-field? — -Wayne Trzyna

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA. The rivers are dropping and clearing.  I think you’ll have good fishing. 2) you can always, always go high enough in altitude to the sources which should be in fine shape. How heavy does my sink-tip have to be to get my fly down in the snow-field?

then you’re getting too high, Wayne…<g… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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I will be visiting Colorado in a couple of weeks and was wondering what the runoff situation was.  I am specifically interested in the Colorado and Frasier rivers around Granby.  TIA. Dave Felter

The hydrographs I have seen show the West Slope to be about 10-14 days behind the East Slope for runoff. On the East Slope runoff is only now slowing substantially. My forecast is that it will be another week or two before levelling off to something like normal summer conditions; the west slope should follow by another week or so. Still fishable, though. Ken Clark Ft. Lupton, CO

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Grow up and get a life!  If you have a "head in the sand" approach to flyfishing that’s fine, but don’t try to foist it on the rest of us.  Most fly fishers enjoy a variety of approaches to catch, and often release, a variety of fish species.   To each his or her own.

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To All: I have an oppoutunity to go fly fishinh in Venezuela this coming spring. Would appreciate any information. I can’t seem to find anyone who has ever been there fishing.

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Mason) writes: I have an oppoutunity to go fly fishinh in Venezuela this coming spring. Would appreciate any information. I can’t seem to find anyone who has ever been there fishing.

Where are you going in Venezuela?  There’s everything from big-game saltwater to the Amazon basin to trout, but you must have some sort of destination in mind. If you’ll post your intentions I’ll try to give you some specific answers.  I’ve fished all over Venezuela (even met my wife in the jungle there). Marshall Cutchin

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chauvanistic bozo-zone you came from.  (You must be male, because only a broken chromosomed piece of shit would even bother to think–and I use that term loosely–this way.)

Oooo…a male basher….I really hate it when some two bit cunt assaults me for being male because of the stupidity of one other male…beleive me, there are a lot of stupid females in this world too. -(CJW)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just saw Sinead Oconner on Letterman and I liked her better without hair, at least that way you could use your imagination and THINK she MIGHT be cute.  Now that I’ve seen her with hair I know for sure she’s ugly. Man, that’s so fucking rude.  Who gives a FUCK what you fucking think of what the performer LOOKS like?  Was the performance good?  A resounding "yes" is the answer.  So fuck off and go back to the chauvanistic bozo-zone you came from.  (You must be male, because only a broken chromosomed piece of shit would even bother to think–and I use that term loosely–this way.) Heidi —      So what about KEANU REEVES?  Choosing one of today’s least able (but

Anyone who’s seen Hush a Bye Baby (film) in which Sinead wears a long wig, knows that she is visually attractive. Do people always swear as much on this newsgroup. Andrew in Belfast.

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I just saw Sinead Oconner on Letterman and I liked her better without hair, at least that way you could use your imagination and THINK she MIGHT be cute.  Now that I’ve seen her with hair I know for sure she’s ugly.

Man, that’s so fucking rude.  Who gives a FUCK what you fucking think of what the performer LOOKS like?  Was the performance good?  A resounding "yes" is the answer.  So fuck off and go back to the chauvanistic bozo-zone you came from.  (You must be male, because only a broken chromosomed piece of shit would even bother to think–and I use that term loosely–this way.) Heidi —      So what about KEANU REEVES?  Choosing one of today’s least able (but

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I just saw Sinead Oconner on Letterman and I liked her better without hair, at least that way you could use your imagination and THINK she MIGHT be cute.  Now that I’ve seen her with hair I know for sure she’s ugly. Man, that’s so fucking rude.  Who gives a FUCK what you fucking think of what the performer LOOKS like?  Was the performance good?  A resounding "yes" is the answer.  So fuck off and go back to the chauvanistic bozo-zone you came from.  (You must be male, because only a broken chromosomed piece of shit would even bother to think–and I use that term loosely–this way.) Heidi

I thought she looked great.  she put on a good show.  I wish dave would have talked to her though. ryan http://www.xmission.com/~ryshaw snowboarding/NIN/flyfishing/The Jeffersons

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I just saw Sinead Oconner on Letterman and I liked her better without hair, at least that way you could use your imagination and THINK she MIGHT be cute.  Now that I’ve seen her with hair I know for sure she’s ugly.

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