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Hi folks, I’m Kenny. Absent for several years, but previously pretty active on the ROFF (my 5 digit compuserve id dates me). Anyway, looks like the same eclectic mix of passionate people can be found here, piscator to PETA. Almost a time warp. I was wondering if Tim from Colorado was still around? You out there Tim you silver tongued devil you? Hopefully, I’ll hook up with some old friends and make some new ones. Best regards, K
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Hi folks, I’m Kenny. Absent for several years, but previously pretty active on the ROFF (my 5 digit compuserve id dates me). Anyway, looks like the same eclectic mix of passionate people can be found here, piscator to PETA. Almost a time warp.
Yup…same ol’, same ol’…. I was wondering if Tim from Colorado was still around? You out there Tim you silver tongued devil you?
No, he and Ginkles (Gehrke) ran off together, and are running a combination guide service, rod factory, and Dale Carnegie franchise in Bangkok. Last they posted here, Tim was "deliriously happy with his life choice, the cuts on his ass have healed, and he finally got the whore piss smell out of his eyebrows and hair" and Ginkles said, "Berzie manngy candelazorp FUCK YOU DAVE CHOCOLETBURY!! semmeldug zoom-zoom lefty loves me trignomomitry giometry and we was a enginner until someone took our gloves. Me go fly plane now…I’m cold, timmy….can I have a baht for some hooch…." Hopefully, I’ll hook up with some old friends and make some new ones.
Likely as not… TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Best regards, K
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I was wondering if Tim from Colorado was still around? You out there Tim you silver tongued devil you?
Timmy’s still around, check alt.flyfishing. — Charlie…
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi folks, I’m Kenny. Absent for several years, but previously pretty active on the ROFF (my 5 digit compuserve id dates me). Anyway, looks like the same eclectic mix of passionate people can be found here, piscator to PETA. Almost a time warp. I was wondering if Tim from Colorado was still around? You out there Tim you silver tongued devil you? Hopefully, I’ll hook up with some old friends and make some new ones. Best regards, K
Tim? Is that you? Talk to me. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
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rw asks: Tim? Is that you? Talk to me.
He’s out back, pickling radishes. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond. I combined the fishing with experimentation with three different lines that I had laying about, a DT2F, a WF3F, and a TT2/3. Tripper, Great story! And it’s nice to know that I’m not the only other person on ROFF who has been fishing recently, what with the "To Whom It May Concern" mega-crisis (did anyone report this to the ACLU? to the UN? to Al Gore?) to deal with and everything. 
aw, hell, steve, you aren’t about to buy that yankee bullshit, are you? i’ve fished with him; he couldn’t throw a *rock* 90′, let alone a fly line. and besides, the only winston i have (7′ 2wt) is a beautiful thing to see, but a touch too weak in the butt for my tastes. ok, i’ll come clean: the rascal *can* fish his fly! but the winston is still too soft! wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Of course, hearing your casting distance figures reminds me that it’s time for another casting lesson or two (or ten). –Steve
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[snipped rock abuse] and besides, the only winston i have (7′ 2wt) is a beautiful thing to see, but a touch too weak in the butt for my tastes. ok, i’ll come clean: the rascal *can* fish his fly! but the winston is still too soft! wayno
Ah, another fellow flyflinger in distress… I feel your pain, too, counselor, and am more than prepared to relieve you of the cause. Send that "too soft" rod to a good home where it’ll be loved. You already have my address. /daytripper (still waitin’ on that paintin’, btw ;^)
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… Hmmm, the 7.5/3wt (3pc) we’ve both cast feels to me medium/slow; with a TT 3/4 and a Cortland Clear Creek WF3, never had a DT on it.
FWIW, the Winston recommended line for their IM6 rods is a DT. Tho I too fish my Winstons with a TT. I just picked up a Wulf long belly line and tried it with my five weight, wish I tried one sooner. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas but counting the days to the Keys Before you buy.
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Our lips never touched – no matter what you might have heard ;^) /daytripper (never gonna live that one down…)
I believe what you said was you tried to *shotgun* a cigarette with it. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.
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and besides, the only winston i have (7′ 2wt) is a beautiful thing to see, but a touch too weak in the butt for my tastes. ok, i’ll come clean: the rascal *can* fish his fly! but the winston is still too soft!
Wanna trade a Sage 2wt SPL for it? — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.
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Thank you for the post. I like it. — Vern ^^^^^^^ (o)-(o)/ " ___ Before you buy.
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FWIW, the Winston recommended line for their IM6 rods is a DT. Tho I too fish my Winstons with a TT. I just picked up a Wulf long belly line and tried it with my five weight, wish I tried one sooner.
You’re learning, Wayne ;^)
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FWIW, the Winston recommended line for their IM6 rods is a DT. Tho I too fish my Winstons with a TT. I just picked up a Wulf long belly line and tried it with my five weight, wish I tried one sooner. You’re learning, Wayne ;^)
I never stop learning Mr Tripper, — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.
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and besides, the only winston i have (7′ 2wt) is a beautiful thing to see, but a touch too weak in the butt for my tastes. ok, i’ll come clean: the rascal *can* fish his fly! but the winston is still too soft! Wanna trade a Sage 2wt SPL for it?
no thanks, bud; a friend of mine got rid of his sage 2wt when he couldn’t get it to load up under 20′ with a 6wt tri-taper… just kiddin, of course; but the winston was custom made for me, has my name on the butt, and has become one of the things my two boys will fight over, one of these days. wayno
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… With the exception of my temporarily "indisposed" 7.5/2wt, every Winston I own or have cast could be categorized as having a medium action (the little 2wt is surprisingly fast). …
Hmmm, the 7.5/3wt (3pc) we’ve both cast feels to me medium/slow; with a TT 3/4 and a Cortland Clear Creek WF3, never had a DT on it. — Ken Fortenberry
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/daytripper ("Bullwinkle"? Where’d *that* come from?)
Foggy brain on my part. Rocky used to say, "and now for something we hope you really like." or something to that effect. Then again I remember hearing of you romancing a moose, once <g. Mu
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Hmmm, the 7.5/3wt (3pc) we’ve both cast feels to me medium/slow; with a TT 3/4 and a Cortland Clear Creek WF3, never had a DT on it.
Well, as I said, some people would feel that way. I fished your rod with the DT2F that I use on my two weight, and it cast very nicely with it – it felt "medium-fast" with that line, threw nice tight loops, and on the only river big enough to air it out a little (the Harrison) I ran out of room before I ran out of line. (Ya know, I almost asked you to sell that rod to me back then ;^) I suspect the TT3/4 would overload it, though I could be wrong. If you can find someone who has a TT2/3, you might be pleasantly surprised (that is, unless you like the slower action). Otherwise, bring it to Maine with you next fall, and you can try out a whole bunch of lines on it. /daytripper (Or let me do it ;^)
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/daytripper ("Bullwinkle"? Where’d *that* come from?) Foggy brain on my part. Rocky used to say, "and now for something we hope you really like." or something to that effect.
Yup – you have an excellent memory! This similar quote, however, is from the Monty Python tv show. Then again I remember hearing of you romancing a moose, once <g.
Our lips never touched – no matter what you might have heard ;^) /daytripper (never gonna live that one down…)
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Now you’ve got me dreaming. One of the local stores has an RPL 390 blank in its discount bin. Maybe if it’s still there after Xmas . . . Peter
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We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond. I combined the fishing with experimentation with three different lines that I had laying about, a DT2F, a WF3F, and a TT2/3.
Tripper, Great story! And it’s nice to know that I’m not the only other person on ROFF who has been fishing recently, what with the "To Whom It May Concern" mega-crisis (did anyone report this to the ACLU? to the UN? to Al Gore?) to deal with and everything. Of course, hearing your casting distance figures reminds me that it’s time for another casting lesson or two (or ten). –Steve
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Daytripper: Thanks for this thread. I have a friend who tried out my Scott G-series 3 weight at rezendevous about a month ago . He had never tried a slower action rod before and was impressed. I received an e-mail from him last week. He awaiting the arrival of his Winston 8.5 foot 3 weight rod. I just hope he enjoys it as much as you do your Winstons. Big Dale
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Daytripper: Thanks for this thread. I have a friend who tried out my Scott G-series 3 weight at rezendevous about a month ago . He had never tried a slower action rod before and was impressed.
I’m partial to the G series rods too. I’m thinking about telling Santa about their new 8′ 3 piece 2 wt<g. — Charlie…
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We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston The TT2/3 was the monster of the three – turned this rod into a mini-howitzer; once I had the feel for the rod, the entire line could be cast with moderate effort
Thanks Bullwinkle. BTW, I haven’t ever touched a Winston IM6 but I thought they were supposed to be moderate action rods. Is it actually a fast rod or are you a very good caster? Mu
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We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston The TT2/3 was the monster of the three – turned this rod into a mini-howitzer; once I had the feel for the rod, the entire line could be cast with moderate effort Thanks Bullwinkle. BTW, I haven’t ever touched a Winston IM6 but I thought they were supposed to be moderate action rods. Is it actually a fast rod or are you a very good caster?
With the exception of my temporarily "indisposed" 7.5/2wt, every Winston I own or have cast could be categorized as having a medium action (the little 2wt is surprisingly fast). The 9/3 might even be termed medium-slow by some. But if you get in tune with your thumb on the top of the grip, you can really get their IM6 rods to zing line (I’ve often thrown the entire DT2F on my little 2 weight with surprisingly little effort when I’m really in sync with that rod). I have been flyfishing for almost 36 years now, and while I’m not going to win any casting championships, I can throw a line. But you have to have tried a Wulff Triangle Taper line to understand that if distance is the game, a TT will give you an almost unfair advantage. This is a weight forward line with a stepless front taper and no rear taper to speak of; and the running line has an unusually thin diameter and a hard surface. The result is so little guide friction or wind resistance that it just shoots like crazy, and an 80 foot cast doesn’t require a champion to achieve (90 foot line minus the length of the rod). When I let the first good cast fly with this line, I had about 60 feet of line out – and it really jerked the reel but good, such was the line speed. Surprised the heck out of me, so I just kept feeding out more line until I hit the backing. On my best casts with the little nymph on the end, I was shooting over twenty feet of line off the ground and through the guides. Very satisfying, if impractical under most circumstances. With anything more wind resistant than that nymph, I could get the line out but it didn’t have enough terminal velocity to do much more than puddle the leader at the far end of the cast. After all the above, however, in truth I prefer DT lines for their versatility and typically softer "landing" characteristic, and I’ll probably try an SA or DT3F on this rod before next spring. The WF3 and TT2/3 were my dad’s lines for one of his cane rods that I also inherited. They provide impressive results wrt distance, and I’ll keep them at the ready, but I’d rather have the DT for every day use. /daytripper ("Bullwinkle"? Where’d *that* come from?)
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Daytripper, We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond.
What part of the world are you in? Out here in Northern CA, it seems a bit too wintry for bassin’. I love fishing small poppers, btw. Even the smallest sunfish often explode from the water with the gaudy bug firmly clenched, making more than their fair share of commotion as they splash down. Short strip, wait, short strip, wait, wiggle and wait, then WHAMMO!
I’m another popper lover. Each winter I make up a bunch of balsa poppers and enjoy the anticipation of March. Too bad it had to end so early (goddamned daylight savings time!)
Yeah… Glad you got some fishin’ in. Wes Peterson LexCraft Data Services
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OK – YOU SUCCEEDED I am Jealous. Bill
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond. I combined the fishing with experimentation with three different lines that I had laying about, a DT2F, a WF3F, and a TT2/3. fwiw, the DT2F definitely underlined the rod, which was to be expected, and made for too much work. The TT2/3 was the monster of the three – turned this rod into a mini-howitzer; once I had the feel for the rod, the entire line could be cast with moderate effort, although at that range the longish front taper didn’t turn over the popper-ladened leader consistently (though with a #14 Montana I could straighten the line at the same insane distance). The WF3F was quite enjoyable, loaded the rod quickly but not overly, and would deliver a small popper very nicely as far as ~70 feet before running out of line speed. So I left the WF on for the rest of the short outing, and woke up a bunch of long-eared sunnies along with a pair of foot-long large mouths. I usually fish this pond with my 9/5 but the 3-weight was a lot more fun on these li’l fellers, which put a goodly bend in the rod. I love fishing small poppers, btw. Even the smallest sunfish often explode from the water with the gaudy bug firmly clenched, making more than their fair share of commotion as they splash down. Short strip, wait, short strip, wait, wiggle and wait, then WHAMMO! Too cool! Between the fishing, the warmish weather, the heron stalking the band, and a very talkative pair of mallards cruising along, it was an entertaining few hours away from the ‘puters, which seem to be in a bad mood the last few days. Too bad it had to end so early (goddamned daylight savings time!) /daytripper (Peace, Love, Hair, Beads, Flowers, Fur Coats…and HATS!)
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i know what my problem is, two huge school assignments hanging over my head and no fishing since Mu’s visit. Withdrawal is making me surly.
Pete, you of all people I find hard to picture as ever being surly! That Winston’s a lovely rod btw, enjoy heartily. I bet it would be great for brookies off the wing dam.
And indeed, this is what I had in mind when I decided I "needed" this particular model. On those days that the wind isn’t blasting up river off Pondy, it should be a riot! Can you imaging hooking a 20" wild brookie and holding it with a 3 wt on that river? Yikes! Hope you catch a break and get out before the water gets solid up there, Peter… /daytripper
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Daytripper, What part of the world are you in? Out here in Northern CA, it seems a bit too wintry for bassin’.
Central Massachusetts, Wes. Indeed, normally the bass would be snoozin’ (don’t know about the sunnies – they always seem cooperative around here if they aren’t trapped under ice ;^) But we experienced a "Blazing Inferno" of a summer this year, and I think some ponds are just getting settled before winter creeps in. On a nice afternoon a fish or six can be still be raised with a tempting bug… Gotta get the last licks in before my mind turns to skiing. /daytripper
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We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond. I combined the fishing with experimentation with three different lines that I had laying about, a DT2F, a WF3F, and a TT2/3. fwiw, the DT2F definitely underlined the rod, which was to be expected, and made for too much work. The TT2/3 was the monster of the three – turned this rod into a mini-howitzer; once I had the feel for the rod, the entire line could be cast with moderate effort, although at that range the longish front taper didn’t turn over the popper-ladened leader consistently (though with a #14 Montana I could straighten the line at the same insane distance). The WF3F was quite enjoyable, loaded the rod quickly but not overly, and would deliver a small popper very nicely as far as ~70 feet before running out of line speed. So I left the WF on for the rest of the short outing, and woke up a bunch of long-eared sunnies along with a pair of foot-long large mouths. I usually fish this pond with my 9/5 but the 3-weight was a lot more fun on these li’l fellers, which put a goodly bend in the rod. I love fishing small poppers, btw. Even the smallest sunfish often explode from the water with the gaudy bug firmly clenched, making more than their fair share of commotion as they splash down. Short strip, wait, short strip, wait, wiggle and wait, then WHAMMO! Too cool! Between the fishing, the warmish weather, the heron stalking the band, and a very talkative pair of mallards cruising along, it was an entertaining few hours away from the ‘puters, which seem to be in a bad mood the last few days. Too bad it had to end so early (goddamned daylight savings time!) /daytripper (Peace, Love, Hair, Beads, Flowers, Fur Coats…and HATS!)
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{ a lot of great Winston stuff snipped] Too cool! Between the fishing, the warmish weather, the heron stalking the band, and a very talkative pair of mallards cruising along, it was an entertaining few hours away from the ‘puters, which seem to be in a bad mood the last few days. Too bad it had to end so early (goddamned daylight savings time!) /daytripper (Peace, Love, Hair, Beads, Flowers, Fur Coats…and HATS!)
i know what my problem is, two huge school assignments hanging over my head and no fishing since Mu’s visit. Withdrawal is making me surly. That Winston’s a lovely rod btw, enjoy heartily. I bet it would be great for brookies off the wing dam. Peter
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I just got back from a trip to the eastern sierras in which I landed the largest trout of my brief fly fishing career. At one of the lakes in the mammoth basin, I set off in my float tube, fly rod in hand, freezing cold. The morning was in the low 40’s, not my favorite temperature. I trolled the lake for three hours until 9AM until i thought i felt a leak in my waders (bad). Cold water in your waders is very unpleasant at best but getting blanked while fish are jumping around you is much worse. So I decided to take one more pass through the outlet part of the lake. I tied on a woolly worm, and was immediately into a small trout. After letting it go, a nice breeze came over the lake, allowing me to be more agressive with my casting and presentation. I landed and released several more 12" trout and the soggy feeling in my waders was increasing at an alarming rate. I decided to head in after a few more casts, i was losing feeling in my toes. While carefully stripping in line, i felt a gentle tug, trout! I immediately set the hook into what i thought was a rock. It wouldnt budge, until i started to peel off line from my reel. I eventually netted the rainbow and noticed its mouth was forming into a hook jaw. This was the largest trout i had caught until that point and i was quite satisfied and ready to head in. However, a nagging feeling that overcame the numbness from the lower half of my body made me cast one more time. Another gentle tug, and I quickly played the small trout in by hand. But it wasnt small. No, it was huge by my standards. As soon as i played in half of my line, the thing took off screaming like a torpedo. There is nothing quite as sweet sounding as the singing of a click and pawl reel. It took me 10 minutes to bring that huge rainbow in, i missed it on my first attempt at netting it because the darned thing wouldn’t fit into the net. I probably pissed it off because it took another blistering run, taking me into my backing. I was afraid it would break off, 2lb tippet isnt the sturdiest line available. I eventually got it in, the thing was 24" long and looked more like a salmon than a trout. But it was beautiful. Now I’m more hooked on flyfishing than ever. (But i still was tempted into flinging kastmasters for newly stocked trout the next day :])
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Steve wrote (good story snipped): I just got back from a trip to the eastern sierras in which I landed the largest trout of my brief fly fishing career
Congratulations! Sounded like a great time. You have definitely caught the bug from the sounds of it. Warren
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Right on man!! Sounds like a great time! Forrest FlyFishingREVIEW.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got back from a trip to the eastern sierras in which I landed the largest trout of my brief fly fishing career. At one of the lakes in the mammoth basin, I set off in my float tube, fly rod in hand, freezing cold. The morning was in the low 40’s, not my favorite temperature. I trolled the lake for three hours until 9AM until i thought i felt a leak in my waders (bad). Cold water in your waders is very unpleasant at best but getting blanked while fish are jumping around you is much worse. So I decided to take one more pass through the outlet part of the lake. I tied on a woolly worm, and was immediately into a small trout. After letting it go, a nice breeze came over the lake, allowing me to be more agressive with my casting and presentation. I landed and released several more 12" trout and the soggy feeling in my waders was increasing at an alarming rate. I decided to head in after a few more casts, i was losing feeling in my toes. While carefully stripping in line, i felt a gentle tug, trout! I immediately set the hook into what i thought was a rock. It wouldnt budge, until i started to peel off line from my reel. I eventually netted the rainbow and noticed its mouth was forming into a hook jaw. This was the largest trout i had caught until that point and i was quite satisfied and ready to head in. However, a nagging feeling that overcame the numbness from the lower half of my body made me cast one more time. Another gentle tug, and I quickly played the small trout in by hand. But it wasnt small. No, it was huge by my standards. As soon as i played in half of my line, the thing took off screaming like a torpedo. There is nothing quite as sweet sounding as the singing of a click and pawl reel. It took me 10 minutes to bring that huge rainbow in, i missed it on my first attempt at netting it because the darned thing wouldn’t fit into the net. I probably pissed it off because it took another blistering run, taking me into my backing. I was afraid it would break off, 2lb tippet isnt the sturdiest line available. I eventually got it in, the thing was 24" long and looked more like a salmon than a trout. But it was beautiful. Now I’m more hooked on flyfishing than ever. (But i still was tempted into flinging kastmasters for newly stocked trout the next day :])
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Now I’m more hooked on flyfishing than ever. (But i still was tempted into flinging kastmasters for newly stocked trout the next day :])
I have a feeling that the kastmasters don’t have much of a future. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html
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