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The topic line  speaks for itself. Drew

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman

Don’t you work for a living? Joel Axelrad **DFD**

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You have a hard time moving from one topic to the next, don’t you?

You started a new topic?  Is it just me, or does this feel like "Groundhog Day" to anyone else?

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman Don’t you work for a living?

He’s a Usenet Tetherball.  This is what he does. Sandy (your turn to whack him ’round the other direction)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman Don’t you work for a living? He’s a Usenet Tetherball.  This is what he does. Sandy (your turn to whack him ’round the other direction)

Well……. I know this is probably revolutionary, and will result in much abuse and denigration from the dyed in the wool conservatives in our midst, but  could we perhaps simply cut the elastic? After much  abuse, some quite perverse and orgiastic, some folks decided, to cap the blokes elastic, "Free speech, free speech", cried some aghast, "you must sit still and be abused, you wild phantast, How dare you try to change things, with your calls", in the meantime the idiot was still searching for his balls. Loud twangs emitted from the aggravated multitude, neuticles were substituted, and it was then construed, when a nasty bugger capitulates, and then confesses, no one has the right, to stop him wearing dresses. TL MC

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The topic line  speaks for itself.

I think it was supposed to be, "I can’t believe I’ve learned much here." — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman

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writing skills.

See ya REAL soon then! Wolfgang

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman

Found out there are more keys than the K, I , A and S? Herman

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Do your homework, Herman. — Citizen Fisherman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills. — Citizen Fisherman Found out there are more keys than the K, I , A and S? Herman

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. …

You always hate the ones you love. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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I’ve been watching this board all damn day. What a waste of time with people who hate me. Reminds me of my family reunions. I’ll be back when I need fly fishing advice or some practice with my acerbic writing skills.

Alternatively, just get a new ISP and sign on as Felicity_the_Flyfisherwoman. Much fun.

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You have a hard time moving from one topic to the next, don’t you? — Citizen Fisherman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Alternatively, just get a new ISP and sign on as Felicity_the_Flyfisherwoman. Much fun.

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My wife has never fished before she met me and her first time was in Yellowstone with me.  She somewhat enjoyed it.  She was using a spinning setup and I a flyrod.  She got a little excited when she caught her first fish.  This was 3 years ago.  Last month for an elective at BSU she decided to take a fly tying class.  This surprised me incredibly and she loves it. She is so excited when she comes home to show me her flies I get goose bumps. Man I love my wife.  hehehehe She wants a fly rod now. (tears of joy)

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Sam You have been truly blessed. Among some in the fly fishing fraternity your good fortune is right up there on a par with the appearance of Lady Beaverkill at the side of Theodore Gordon in the early part of the last century, and Our Blessed Lady of the Perfect Bobbin on the River Test in 1636. Treat this woman well.  Dress her in fine garments and gear. Dave

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<<Man I love my wife.  hehehehe She wants a fly rod now. (tears of joy) You realize that she will catch twice as many fish as you and they will all be twice as big as yours. Every time.

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Man I love my wife.  hehehehe She wants a fly rod now. (tears of joy)

Not to kick sand on your romance or anything, but… A lot of the time I don’t want a partner, I just want permission –Steve

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I sure hope so.  That way she’ll love fly fishing.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<Man I love my wife.  hehehehe She wants a fly rod now. (tears of joy) You realize that she will catch twice as many fish as you and they will all be twice as big as yours. Every time.

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My wife has never fished before she met me and her first time was in Yellowstone with me.  She somewhat enjoyed it.  She was using a spinning setup and I a flyrod.  She got a little excited when she caught her first fish.  This was 3 years ago.  Last month for an elective at BSU she decided to take a fly tying class.  This surprised me incredibly and she loves it. She is so excited when she comes home to show me her flies I get goose bumps.

—— <excited man snipped —– My wife has tied for years, but just started fly fishing this past season. It has always been fun having her tie with me and now it has become a total experience.  The challenges I face is that we do have a difference of opinion on the best way to tie a particular fly and she really is gravitating to my best fishing gear.  But what the heck, I will just have to buy some new gear, darn;) —– Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

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Does she offer training for other wives?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife has never fished before she met me and her first time was in Yellowstone with me.  She somewhat enjoyed it.  She was using a spinning setup and I a flyrod.  She got a little excited when she caught her first fish.  This was 3 years ago.  Last month for an elective at BSU she decided to take a fly tying class.  This surprised me incredibly and she loves it. She is so excited when she comes home to show me her flies I get goose bumps. Man I love my wife.  hehehehe She wants a fly rod now. (tears of joy)

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If your in the Boise area, I’m sure she would be happy to show any wives. They would have to be willing to learn of course, which is difficult to find.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does she offer training for other wives? My wife has never fished before she met me and her first time was in Yellowstone with me.  She somewhat enjoyed it.  She was using a spinning setup and I a flyrod.  She got a little excited when she caught her first fish.  This was 3 years ago.  Last month for an elective at BSU she decided to take a fly tying class.  This surprised me incredibly and she loves it. She is so excited when she comes home to show me her flies I get goose bumps. Man I love my wife.  hehehehe She wants a fly rod now. (tears of joy)

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I would love to have my wife join me in tying.  One scary thing though.  I know how much of a gear whore I am when it comes to tying materials.  I just can’t conceptualize the results of my wife, the woman who has raised "accessorizing" to the manic compulsive level, getting into tying.  Shivers are now running up and down my spine and settling in my wallet.               Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife has never fished before she met me and her first time was in Yellowstone with me.  She somewhat enjoyed it.  She was using a spinning setup and I a flyrod.  She got a little excited when she caught her first fish.  This was 3 years ago.  Last month for an elective at BSU she decided to take a fly tying class.  This surprised me incredibly and she loves it. She is so excited when she comes home to show me her flies I get goose bumps. Man I love my wife.  hehehehe She wants a fly rod now. (tears of joy)

Before you buy.

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I would love to have my wife join me in tying

    frank, please endeavor, in the future, to keep your personal sexual peccadillos to yourself.  this is a family newsgroup. wayno (but what a family!)

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Since this is a forum of public opinion, let me state mine… With few exceptions, spammers don’t actually read newsgroups. That means they (follow closely now) *don’t read the followup posts*. My suggestion is that if you see a post that you feel is spam then–by all means–send a *private* informational email. I doubt most of these folks are initially aware that what they’re doing is considered inappropriate, so my recommendation would be to keep that first email polite and profanity free, but that’s just my own personal style. If the person inappropriately posts a second time, then flame away–but again in *private*. If the poster’s email address is bogus then grit and bear it or try to hunt him/her down–but *don’t post your flame here*. Either we agree with you (which means you don’t need to post a response) or we disagree with you (which means we don’t want you to post a response). But posting a newsgroup followup message in response to spam does absolutely no good, IMO. Reprimand in private, ignore in public. –Steve

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since this is a forum of public opinion, let me state mine… With few exceptions, spammers don’t actually read newsgroups. That means they (follow closely now) *don’t read the followup posts*. My suggestion is that if you see a post that you feel is spam then–by all means–send a *private* informational email. I doubt most of these folks are initially aware that what they’re doing is considered inappropriate, so my recommendation would be to keep that first email polite and profanity free, but that’s just my own personal style. If the person inappropriately posts a second time, then flame away–but again in *private*. If the poster’s email address is bogus then grit and bear it or try to hunt him/her down–but *don’t post your flame here*. Either we agree with you (which means you don’t need to post a response) or we disagree with you (which means we don’t want you to post a response). But posting a newsgroup followup message in response to spam does absolutely no good, IMO. Reprimand in private, ignore in public. –Steve

_____  Excellent Steve.  This also applies to e-mailing IN PRIVATE your displeasure to those who Spam about Spamming all the time.  Your policy is what we have been doing for a long while now.  I think most of us (except new individuals) understand UserNet manners and among the gentlemen of the group I rate you pretty high on the pole. What comes to mind is the vast numbers of humanity that are starting to talk to each other.  The old saying, ‘Familiarity breeds contempt,’ flies more true then ever before.  The real dangers in the world getting to know itself more and more, has awesome possibilities for the nurturing of hatreds.  We must all guard against that by watching our demeanor, our writing style, by not getting personal as you say, and always disagreeing in a tactful manner.  There is nothing more dangerous in the W.W.W. today then a mental bully or those that will not listen in private to friendly advice.  Overall we all respond to those we like to read, yet in retrospect, there are many here who thrive on conflicts or who answer other posts in such a manner as to flame, demean, or to incite a response.  There are those here who still like to attack others for the littlest reason.  We should not respond to such attacks but I will be the first to admit that I have had the tendency fighting these style brats from time to time myself. Again, good post Steve. We can agree to disagree without malice and ROFF will improve a thousand fold if everyone adheres to that standard.  No Name Calling! Praise in public, condemn in private is the mark of leadership. Mr. G.   — http://www.gink.com/chat

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Since this is a forum of public opinion, let me state mine…

        damn good idea, steve.  think i’ll do the same. With few exceptions, spammers don’t actually read newsgroups. That means they (follow closely now) *don’t read the followup posts*.

        i don’t know whether the spammers read the posts or not, and i doubt that you can document your assertion that they don’t; however, i sure as hell read them:  damn fine literature, some of them.  jesus, without fortenberry’s masterful hyperbole, or connor’s absolutely brutal rejoinders, we would be left with endless drivel about strike indicators,  or droning repetitions of saccarine wisdom from bill kiene, et. al.         jesus, next thing you know, you’ll be whining about wolfgang’s tendencies toward off-topic posts, or the lack of clarity in asadi’s, well…art.         shit, man, you’d think this was a flyfishing newsgroup! chill, baby; you need a little more dr. hunter thompson and a little less mr. rogers. wayno

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[The Big Snip]    shit, man, you’d think this was a flyfishing newsgroup! chill, baby; you need a little more dr. hunter thompson and a little less mr. rogers.

LMAO! That was priceless, counselor.

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i don’t know whether the spammers read the posts or not, and i doubt that you can document your assertion that they don’t; however, i sure as hell read them:  damn fine literature, some of them.  jesus, without fortenberry’s masterful hyperbole, or connor’s absolutely brutal rejoinders, we would be left with endless drivel about strike indicators,  or droning repetitions of saccarine wisdom from bill kiene, et. al.

Well, then, HEY EVERYBODY, CHECK OUT WWW.CODEMARINE.COM!!! (just tryin’ to make ROFF more enjoyable for ya, counselor). And do say hi to the wagonmaster for me. –Steve Zimmerman

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_____  Excellent Steve.  This also applies to e-mailing IN PRIVATE your displeasure to those who Spam about Spamming all the time.  Your policy is what we have been doing for a long while now.  I think most of us (except new individuals) understand UserNet manners

I’ve been on usenet for over five years. I remember a time when spam was all-but-nonexistent. We didn’t need filters. ISP’s didn’t need abuse addresses. I can find absolutely nothing wrong with honest anti-spam efforts. Opt out == cop-out. What’s so hard to understand?

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[snip] shit, man, you’d think this was a flyfishing newsgroup! chill, baby; you need a little more dr. hunter thompson and a little less mr. rogers. wayno

Wayno, Don’t you think one psycho journalist in this news group is enough?

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We got an early start on Friday; left Milwaukee at 2 p.m. and managed to find a campsite on the Two Hearted by about an hour after dark.  We looked like something out a Chevy Chase movie.  The Jeep Grand Cherokee had two bicycles strapped onto the rear windshield and a pop-up camper behind.  Jay, Becky, and I had enough gear and supplies among us to last us a great deal longer than the three day weekend we had planned.  This turned out to be a good thing as circumstances caused us to stay a couple of days longer. The High Bridge Campground north of Newberry Michigan has six sites.  We grabbed the first one we saw on Friday night and lucked out.  Site no. 2 sits at the top of a small sand bluff immediately adjacent to the river.  As soon as we got the trailer situated and the engine turned off we could easily hear the water gurgling below us; a most auspicious beginning! Saturday morning Jay and I hit the stream while Becky lounged in camp. We fished it hard for a couple of hours and then met back at camp to compare notes.  Things were not looking good.  Virtually nothing was coming off the water and the fish were in no mood to play with us.  I saw one stone fly, a couple of languid looking caddis, and no mayflies at all.  I found one small rainbow rising in a desultory fashion to something I couldn’t see.  He eventually fell for a well placed EHC and that was the last fish I saw.  Jay did a little better.  He managed half a dozen small rainbows on a bead head hare’s ear.  And this, it would turn out, was to be the most productive fishing session of the trip. Sunday morning found us exploring a bit further downstream.  We took a look at the East Branch of the Two Hearted.  The east branch is a bit smaller than the main branch and Jay found it more to his liking.  We drove a couple miles further up the road to look at Pike Lake.  I was eager to introduce Becky to belly boats and this looked like the place to do it.  We decided to take Jay back to the east branch and then putter around on the lake for a while.  We would pick jay up back at the bridge at 7 or so.  We never made it back to drop him off.  About 3 miles from the bridge I heard a strange noise under the hood of the Jeep.  We stopped and exchanged ideas of where the sound was coming from.  We all agreed that it was coming from somewhere near the top of the engine but that was the best we could do.  Half a mile down the road the power steering failed and by the time I stopped the vehicle the gauges were all over the map.  We opened the hood again and this time there was no doubt where the problem was.  The power steering unit had self destructed. Luckily we had a cell phone.  After a few calls to Newberry we found a towing service with a flat bed that would come and get us.  Unluckily, we were fifteen miles from the nearest paved road.  The wrecker took 3 1/2 hours to get to us.  The intervening time was spent trying to stay away from and to kill as many as possible of THE WORST infestation of horse-flies, deer flies, and those pesky little biters that look just like house flies I have ever seen!  At 95 degrees F., and 90 % humidity we had to stay in the vehicle because it was the only way to control the numbers of flies we were exposed to.  We could either chase them out or kill them with hats or towels or other makeshift fly swatters.  Outside the mob was too big.  Even a constantly waving towel couldn’t keep them off.  We all got many bites! To make a long story short, we had planned to return home on Monday but were forced to stay two extra days while waiting for a new power steering unit to find its way in from the civilized world.  The fish never did bite (water temps were way to high), the flies continued to bite, though with somewhat less vigor as the temperature and humidity fell over the next two days.  We had a couple of lovely thunderstorms and a tornado allegedly touched down with a half miles of us as we sat waiting for a pizza in Newberry on Monday night. Spent a day on the Lake Superior shore hunting agates and enjoyed a great deal more success in this venture than we did fishing.  Not much of a fishing story I’m afraid but it was at least an opportunity to get out of the city for a while.  Everyone enjoyed the outing despite the tribulations. For future reference, it looks like there’s a lot of good water in the eastern U.P.  Will have to give it another try in a cooler season, and definitely recommend the area to anyone who’s never been there.  Big forests, far away from everything. Tight Lines!

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We got an early start on Friday; left Milwaukee at 2 p.m. and managed to

find a campsite on the Two Hearted by about an hour after dark. < <tale of terror and disaster snipped You shoulda fished the Fox. <g

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We got an early start on Friday; left Milwaukee at 2 p.m. and managed to find a campsite on the Two Hearted by about an hour after dark. < <tale of terror and disaster snipped You shoulda fished the Fox. <g

With a ten year old Pathfinder ;^)

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It really nice of you out-of-staters to come and feed the woods critters for us – Several years ago we hiked in from ‘Lone Pine Dump’ and had a great day of fishing – just follow the bear trail

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Do you know good river like Big Horn? I came from Italy to USA in August for flyfishing holiday. My trip start in Oregon for Wyoming and go-back. I know only the Umpqua and the Deschutes, the Big  Horn and Shoshone Ok for C&R. Thank you for informations Giovanni Bartolozzi  Il Martin Pescatore Mosca Club

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I live in Bend, Oregon.  I can help you with lots of questions on fly fishing in Central Oregon.  I mostly do stillwater fishing. But can get answers to any questions you might have.  chow  gjbend

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Will be in bend 1st week of April. Do you think davis Lake will be accessable and is a float tube adequate?

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I think thats what the rumor is that Davis wood be accessable April 1.  I have my doubts tho.  I fished Fall River Tues. and the parking lot still has 2 feet of snow and had to park on the hwy.  Fall River and Crooked might be an option.  Actually, Chickahomany(sp) should be thawed and  ready too.  Good luck.

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Geeez….would   not wood.  Saw that as I sent.  :(

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How was fall river, BWO’s?

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If the weathers keeps warm you might try BWO.  I used a #20 black midge with cdc wing that worked great. The fish were lightly nibbleing at the surface so just drifted fly about 2 inches below the surface.  If you have ever fished there you know what its like to watch the fish suck up your fly.

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ROFLMAO Thanks, that made my day, Tim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – August 12, 1998  Denver The Albanian Flyfishing Team, still reeling (as it were) from its dismal showing in the world flyfishing championship recently concluded in Poland, today announced its endorsement of the famous Banjo Minno.  Some observers speculated that the 50 free banjo minnos and $10 gift certificate provided by the manufacturer were the motivating factors in the endorsement, but team members assured the press conference that product quality and fishing results alone secured this valuable addition to the banjo minno family of users. "We’re off to Canada tomorrow", said Romczky Xudycz, team captain, "at the invitation of two guys that host a nationwide TV program on fishing.  Our fame is assured".

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If I ordered two of them would I have "Dueling Banjos"? — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-Mail Selling my Fly Fishing Books Go to: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh

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If I ordered two of them would I have "Dueling Banjos"?

Only if you fished them simultaneously from the same rod — Good Fishing and Tight Lines             | /              |/    (         /|     —     / | C. Michael Bullard

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how much would it be to buy one? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The whole Banjo fishing system sounds like a winner.. but I play guitar… damn.. edwin                               Banjo Mino Catch More Fish Than You Ever Dreamed Possible! The world’s first genetic response fishing lure!    * Specially designed to trigger the genetic response that makes      fish instinctively attack and eat their pray    * The body of the minnow wiggles naturally as it swims    * Why it works: we took the hook out of the back and moved it to      the mouth    * Neutral buoyancy-so it neither floats to the surface or goes      crashing to the bottom    * Complete 110 piece fishing system    * Bonus gifts: 4 Banjo Frogs, instructional video, and lure box

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ROFLMAO Thanks, that made my day, Tim August 12, 1998  Denver The Albanian Flyfishing Team, still reeling (as it were) from its dismal showing in the world flyfishing championship recently concluded in Poland, today announced its endorsement of the famous Banjo Minno.

        (snip)         of course, everybody knows they won’t have a chance in hell for success until they turn to wholesale use of sinking line…         a. wayne harrison

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The whole Banjo fishing system sounds like a winner.. but I play guitar… damn.. edwin                               Banjo Mino Catch More Fish Than You Ever Dreamed Possible!

August 12, 1998  Denver The Albanian Flyfishing Team, still reeling (as it were) from its dismal showing in the world flyfishing championship recently concluded in Poland, today announced its endorsement of the famous Banjo Minno.  Some observers speculated that the 50 free banjo minnos and $10 gift certificate provided by the manufacturer were the motivating factors in the endorsement, but team members assured the press conference that product quality and fishing results alone secured this valuable addition to the banjo minno family of users. "We’re off to Canada tomorrow", said Romczky Xudycz, team captain, "at the invitation of two guys that host a nationwide TV program on fishing.  Our fame is assured".

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The whole Banjo fishing system sounds like a winner.. but I play guitar… damn.. edwin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –                               Banjo Mino Catch More Fish Than You Ever Dreamed Possible! The world’s first genetic response fishing lure!    * Specially designed to trigger the genetic response that makes      fish instinctively attack and eat their pray    * The body of the minnow wiggles naturally as it swims    * Why it works: we took the hook out of the back and moved it to      the mouth    * Neutral buoyancy-so it neither floats to the surface or goes      crashing to the bottom    * Complete 110 piece fishing system    * Bonus gifts: 4 Banjo Frogs, instructional video, and lure box

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I am planning on fishing Milton and Martis Lakes (Truckee area, CA) this weekend (3 -4 May).  I was wondering if anyone fished them opening weekend and could supply me with a report? Fish on,         John Kinyon

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I am curious as to how it went at these lakes. In exchange, I offer this report from Indian Creek Reservoir, near Markleeville south of lake Tahoe. Elevation ~5,000 ft.   Weekends of 4/26 & 5/3. Fishing is slow. Water is still very clear.  Very few callibaetis or damsels showing yet, and no visible surface action morning or evening. Dedicated fishers willing to fish through the wind are getting 5-10 hookups per day, on full sink lines fished near the bottom. Most fish in the 12-14 inch range.  Try olive leeches, rubberlip hares ears, and green scuds. Winds generally blowing from the south towards the dam. Most fish were caught in the northern half of lake with few fish taken in the shallows at the southern end. More fish were being caught by trollers with flashers than tubers with flies. It does not seem that there are as many fish here as in years past, but a damsel or callibaetis hatch may bring them to the surface and prove that wrong. -Mark Vinsel I am planning on fishing Milton and Martis Lakes (Truckee area, CA) this weekend (3 -4 May).  I was wondering if anyone fished them opening weekend and could supply me with a report? Fish on,         John Kinyon

– http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html

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I am curious as to how it went at these lakes.

I heard Martis was not bad, but you could not get into Milton. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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I am curious as to how it went at these lakes. I heard Martis was not bad, but you could not get into Milton. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

Bill & Mark—-Martis has been fishing well in the new "flats" on the south side, at the inlet.  Check-out my website and click on "update" for more detailed info on Martis:                  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/CyberFly Frank R. Pisciotta

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After reading all the posts about upland bird hunting and grouse stocking in the ff’er group, it got me to thinking (Hmmm… thought I smelled wood burning!) about the proper shotgun for trout.

An English side-by-side with a splinter fore end and a straight stock, only, and *only* over a pointing dog.   Waxing my Barbour coat and waiting for a call from my broker, David

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: Say! what about going after grouse with a 6 weight rod?  I have heard about : people catching pigeons with a threaded piece of dried corn. Time to re-hash the stories about bat-casting….

i always practice C&R on them…and ouzels…not much meat on a bat, but the wings (I’ve heard) make excellent jerky. TimW

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After reading all the posts about upland bird hunting and grouse stocking in the ff’er group, it got me to thinking (Hmmm… thought I smelled wood burning!) about the proper shotgun for trout. It would seem to me that you might want to go with variable chokes depending on if trout were feeding on the surface or not. The AR folks could always practice blast and release. Say! what about going after grouse with a 6 weight rod?  I have heard about people catching pigeons with a threaded piece of dried corn. Regards, Frank. Self appointed treasurer of the Mountain Home Benevolent Trout Fishers Assosciation. Motto:  Your dues are due. P.S.  I’m going nuts.  I haven’t been able to fish for awhile, and if I don’t soak my lower half in some cold water soon, I’m done for.

Hi Frank I’ve got some yellow Brazilian Velour that should make a great corn fly. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog)

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After reading all the posts about upland bird hunting and grouse stocking in the ff’er group, it got me to thinking (Hmmm… thought I smelled wood burning!) about the proper shotgun for trout. It would seem to me that you might want to go with variable chokes depending on if trout were feeding on the surface or not. The AR folks could always practice blast and release. Say! what about going after grouse with a 6 weight rod?  I have heard about people catching pigeons with a threaded piece of dried corn. Regards, Frank. Self appointed treasurer of the Mountain Home Benevolent Trout Fishers Assosciation. Motto:  Your dues are due. P.S.  I’m going nuts.  I haven’t been able to fish for awhile, and if I don’t soak my lower half in some cold water soon, I’m done for.

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I should have posted this a week ago, but was lazy. I fished Slate and Cedar Runs from 5/20-5/23.  Pine Creek had no action whatsoever — fish or fly-wise.  We had several decent (but still slow) days on Slate and Cedar.  Slate and Cedar had hatches of little yellow stoneflies everyday all day, a few Hendricksons early in the week, and then some grey caddises, March Browns, and especially Sulphurs (rotundas) later in the week.  Some big clusters of spinners in the evening, but no major spinner fall.  We had our best success, in descending order, with dry March Browns, dry little yellow stoneflies, Hendrickson, March Brown and sulphur emergers, and dry caddis patterns. The fishing was tough.  Even the old-timers were complaining — and bitterly so about Pine Creek, claiming it was the worst they’d seen in 30 years. The weather was fine.  The week before there was a half inch of snow; four days later it was 95 degrees.  But that week it was warm and mostly dry. I heard one story of a gutted Pine Creek fish with an empty stomach. The explanation was that the the streambed had been scoured by the floods and the hatches were shot.  Then I heard another story — a gutted Pine Creek fish with a stomach gorged with nymphs.  Both fish were caught by bait fisherman.  Having turned over a few rocks on the banks I can say that there are certainly nymphs in the water, although apparently the hatches have not been very impressive by local standards.  The few times I stopped at the river I saw few flies, littel bird activity and no surface feeding at all.  Water was still high as well.  Over the phone one of the guys at the tackle shop tried to sound encouraging to a propsective fisherman by metioning that a few chubs had been taken on dries. In sum, Slate and Cedar Runs were slow but worthwhile, though Pine Creek was dead. Genesee beer was excellent, as was Pabst and Schmitts — also Red Man. Oh, and if you want to go to a spooky bar, go to the Wagon Wheel in town of Camaal (sp?), just south of Slate Run.

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Pine Creek is excellent now:  24 fish evening on dries…sulphurs, grey foxes…only  a few more days to green and brown drake hatches!!!

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Pine Creek is excellent now:  24 fish evening on dries…sulphurs, grey foxes…only  a few more days to green and brown drake hatches!!!

Is this the same Pine Creek of the famous "Grand Canyon of the East?" If so, where do you fish in relation to the aforementioned "Grand Canyon?"

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Is this the same Pine Creek of the famous "Grand Canyon of the East?" If so, where do you fish in relation to the aforementioned "Grand Canyon?"

Yes, It is.  You can fish the Canyon itself; if you don’t mind hiking; canoeing it; or have a Mt. Bike and a tuff ass!  AVOID THE WEEKENDS!

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I’m looking for a source of small plastic boxes with lids – about an inch or an inch & a half square.  Any of you shop owners have an idea? Thanks in advance for any information. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT

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Al- Tap plastics has a group of parts boxes in non-shatter milky whie color for somewhere in the realm of 15-25 cents each..they also ahave some 1 inch cubes and 1×2, 2×2 in crystal clear and assorted other colors in the 35 to 75 cent range…best I’ve seen! Larry Medina  #:)#

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