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I use a Madriver Tahoe(14Ft). Weighs 52 pounds-easy enough to handle by myself. This is a recreational canoe-wide,and with good primary stability- really good for trips with small children and dogs.

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can somebody recomend a good canoe 12′-15′ long and really light under $600 primarily used for fishing thanks chris

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can somebody recomend a good canoe 12′-15′ long and really light under $600 primarily used for fishing thanks chris

Chris,  You want some initial stability…to give you that casting platform. I’d go with a light kevlar or some kind of composite in a wide hull. I love dynamically designed hulls, but I just haven’t paddled anything       lightweight in a medium to narrow width with the secondary stability that’s necessary to avoid hair-raising adventures with any sudden movements or just wind.  Kevlar, or anything else that would be light is just not cheap_$$$, I’d go the USED route.  Be energetic in your search…and you should find something via the web. $.02, Steve

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can somebody recomend a good canoe 12′-15′ long and really light under $600 primarily used for fishing thanks chris

I use an Old Town Pack, 12 foot long, 33 pounds, on lakes and slow rivers.  New they are near $600, but I got mine used for <$300, including a lovely bent shaft paddle.  I have not had a problem with primary or secondary stability for fishing (YMMV).  I use it for both casting and trolling, while my husband has used it for flyfishing (but not as successfully).  I have found that me, 6 Ft or shorter rods work best in small canoes or kayaks.  Get a nice anchor and a brush anchor too.  Enjoy. Pam in Iowa

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I’d really like to get at least four people together for a Yuba tip on Sunday, but so far the response has been underwhelming. —— Related subject, how much does the out-of-state fishing license cost for three days or whatever.  I am putting together my budget and I just wanted to factor it all in…I hope more sign up for the guided trip on the Yuba, the $100 sounds very reasonable to me… —— Padishar Creel

Out of state license is about $28 for ten days, around $70 for whole season. Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories Phone: (650)-857-5491               Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971          

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Oops, that is not the embroidery we will have on the hat, its just a sample hat to see what you guys think.  The embroidery I plan to use will not be shown to anyone until the clave and then to Roff afterwards.  As a sensitive artist, I wanted to debut my artwork where I can obtain the most praise from the drunken art critics on this clave.  It will be original artwork done by me and of course, in dishonor of our own patent holding ginkster, I will copy write and patent this work for all eternity

Perfect! Burn ‘em, but not until you know how many orders you have. I’ll take two. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Here is a picture of the hat I have tentatively chosen.  It has a khaki crown, with a dark green bill.  It is OK, for all of you fashion plates at Roff? http://www.nelsonembroidery.com/product.asp?NUM=HH-002

Looks like the best choice of their offerings…

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PC, Looks fine. I’ll take three please. Danl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here is a picture of the hat I have tentatively chosen.  It has a khaki crown, with a dark green bill.  It is OK, for all of you fashion plates at Roff? I really like the dark bill, but I can’t read the writing on the hat. Oops, that is not the embroidery we will have on the hat, its just a sample hat to see what you guys think.  The embroidery I plan to use will not be shown to anyone until the clave and then to Roff afterwards.  As a sensitive artist, I wanted to debut my artwork where I can obtain the most praise from the drunken art critics on this clave.  It will be original artwork done by me and of course, in dishonor of our own patent holding ginkster, I will copy write and patent this work for all eternity Padishar

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PC, put me in for 3 HT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PC, Looks fine. I’ll take three please. Danl Here is a picture of the hat I have tentatively chosen.  It has a khaki crown, with a dark green bill.  It is OK, for all of you fashion plates at Roff? I really like the dark bill, but I can’t read the writing on the hat. Oops, that is not the embroidery we will have on the hat, its just a sample hat to see what you guys think.  The embroidery I plan to use will not be shown to anyone until the clave and then to Roff afterwards.  As a sensitive artist, I wanted to debut my artwork where I can obtain the most praise from the drunken art critics on this clave.  It will be original artwork done by me and of course, in dishonor of our own patent holding ginkster, I will copy write and patent this work for all eternity Padishar

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Here is a picture of the hat I have tentatively chosen.  It has a khaki crown, with a dark green bill.  It is OK, for all of you fashion plates at Roff? http://www.nelsonembroidery.com/product.asp?NUM=HH-002 — Padishar Creel — Working night and say on a new invention to revolutionize the fly fishing world.

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I’m in on the guided trip to the Yuba.  I hope more get on board, it sounds like a fine trip and obviously the guide is highly qualified.  Nice post from Bill and RW; I am tying away on the Shad flies.  I am going to sew up 3 dozen Shad Fish-Out Clave hats.  Think that will be enough

If we get two more for the Yuba, Creel, we have a deal, but it has to happen pretty fast. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Here is a picture of the hat I have tentatively chosen.  It has a khaki crown, with a dark green bill.  It is OK, for all of you fashion plates at Roff?

I really like the dark bill, but I can’t read the writing on the hat. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Here is a picture of the hat I have tentatively chosen.  It has a khaki crown, with a dark green bill.  It is OK, for all of you fashion plates at Roff? I really like the dark bill, but I can’t read the writing on the hat.

Oops, that is not the embroidery we will have on the hat, its just a sample hat to see what you guys think.  The embroidery I plan to use will not be shown to anyone until the clave and then to Roff afterwards.  As a sensitive artist, I wanted to debut my artwork where I can obtain the most praise from the drunken art critics on this clave.  It will be original artwork done by me and of course, in dishonor of our own patent holding ginkster, I will copy write and patent this work for all eternity Padishar

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I’d really like to get at least four people together for a Yuba tip on Sunday, but so far the response has been underwhelming.

—— Related subject, how much does the out-of-state fishing license cost for three days or whatever.  I am putting together my budget and I just wanted to factor it all in…I hope more sign up for the guided trip on the Yuba, the $100 sounds very reasonable to me… —— Padishar Creel I am taking my 6wt Sage with a floating line, and a full sinking line.  Also do we have a chance to fish the stripped bass — need a little heavier rig I would assume.  Maybe my 8wt Cabelas or if the pictures on Bill’s Kienes site are any indicator maybe my new 10wt…or all of them!

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Hi All, As far as we are concerned, the lower Yuba River is the finest American Shad fishing river on the west coast. It is small, shallow and clear making it a real gem. Fishing it with expert guide Bob Sparre would be the smartest thing to do as the access is very limited. Early June is absolute prime time on all our rivers for Shad. Bob put himself through college by guiding on our local rivers. After graduation he found that he really enjoyed guiding and it was lucrative for him year round so he has been doing it full time for quite a while.

I’d really like to get at least four people together for a Yuba tip on Sunday, but so far the response has been underwhelming. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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As far as we are concerned, the lower Yuba River is the finest American Shad fishing river on the west coast. It is small, shallow and clear making it a real gem.

Thanks for setting all this up, Bill and rw. Quick question for ya, Bill — I’ve heard that with rare exceptions shad don’t make it above Daguerre Dam on the Yuba. Is this true? If so, how come? Are they more reticent than salmon and steelhead to jump a fish ladder? thanks, – sid

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RW, If I can make it to Sack-o-Tomatoes for the clave, I’ll do the Yuba with you, I won’t know for sure until a coupla weeks before the clave, tho. Danl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, As far as we are concerned, the lower Yuba River is the finest American Shad fishing river on the west coast. It is small, shallow and clear making it a real gem. Fishing it with expert guide Bob Sparre would be the smartest thing to do as the access is very limited. Early June is absolute prime time on all our rivers for Shad. Bob put himself through college by guiding on our local rivers. After graduation he found that he really enjoyed guiding and it was lucrative for him year round so he has been doing it full time for quite a while. I’d really like to get at least four people together for a Yuba tip on Sunday, but so far the response has been underwhelming. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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RW, If I can make it to Sack-o-Tomatoes for the clave, I’ll do the Yuba with you, I won’t know for sure until a coupla weeks before the clave, tho.

I’m sure we’d have to book the Yuba trip much sooner than that, Dan’l. Considering the lack of response, I’m not hopeful about setting up a guided boat trip on the Yuba. I figure that on Saturday we can decide if we want to drive up and wade it on our own. Bill says access is a problem because there’s a lot of private land. BTW, I’m thinking of going to the American River sometime before the Fishout, just to see what it’s like. Anyone interested in joining me? I’ll be driving from the Bay Area, and my schedule is very flexible. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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I’m sure we’d have to book the Yuba trip much sooner than that, Dan’l. Considering the lack of response, I’m not hopeful about setting up a guided boat trip on the Yuba. I figure that on Saturday we can decide if we want to drive up and wade it on our own. Bill says access is a problem because there’s a lot of private land.

——- I’m in on the guided trip to the Yuba.  I hope more get on board, it sounds like a fine trip and obviously the guide is highly qualified.  Nice post from Bill and RW; I am tying away on the Shad flies.  I am going to sew up 3 dozen Shad Fish-Out Clave hats.  Think that will be enough Padishar Creel "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft…and the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor." –  Wernher von Braun

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location: American River, Sacramento, CA dates: Friday, June 1 to Sunday, June 3 Is anyone else interested a guided trip to the Yuba on Sunday (about 45 minutes from Sacramento)? I talked to a guide named Bob Sparre, recommended by Bill Kiene. Bob says that the way it works is that the boat shuttles you around to wading spots. I think that’s a fun way to fish. Bob has some private-water launch sites that could be interesting. If we can get four or more people it will be $100/person. Bring your own gear and food. BTW, this would also be shad fishing. Also BTW, Bob guides on the American River, too. He said that the past couple of years it’s been a "boat river", which I guess means tough to wade. There’s less snow in CA this year (I came over Donner Summit last weekend), so maybe we’ll be OK. On the other hand, it might be prudent to book boat guides on Saturday, too. Let me know what you think. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Hi All, As far as we are concerned, the lower Yuba River is the finest American Shad fishing river on the west coast. It is small, shallow and clear making it a real gem. Fishing it with expert guide Bob Sparre would be the smartest thing to do as the access is very limited. Early June is absolute prime time on all our rivers for Shad. Bob put himself through college by guiding on our local rivers. After graduation he found that he really enjoyed guiding and it was lucrative for him year round so he has been doing it full time for quite a while. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – location: American River, Sacramento, CA dates: Friday, June 1 to Sunday, June 3 Is anyone else interested a guided trip to the Yuba on Sunday (about 45 minutes from Sacramento)? I talked to a guide named Bob Sparre, recommended by Bill Kiene. Bob says that the way it works is that the boat shuttles you around to wading spots. I think that’s a fun way to fish. Bob has some private-water launch sites that could be interesting. If we can get four or more people it will be $100/person. Bring your own gear and food. BTW, this would also be shad fishing. Also BTW, Bob guides on the American River, too. He said that the past couple of years it’s been a "boat river", which I guess means tough to wade. There’s less snow in CA this year (I came over Donner Summit last weekend), so maybe we’ll be OK. On the other hand, it might be prudent to book boat guides on Saturday, too. Let me know what you think. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Oh man.  Bears and goats and underwear and snakes and trees and…and….and…jeez!  What kind of people are you??!

Ya ain’t seen nothin’ ’till you’ve seen an ol’ rattler tryin’ to get his fangs loose from LaPlac’s shorts<g. — Charlie…

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ROFFLOL

Rolling Outdoors Fly Fishing Laughing Out Loud??? Regards, Jeff

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(Hilarious stuff snipped) Steve, I sure hope you keep this up, ’cause I find myself wading through all the other stuff just to find your review (I also make certain that I have no comestibles in my mouth that might otherwise coat my monitor). Thanks for the levity. Bob

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we need a new acronym because ROTFLMBO is and understatement after reading this weeks report.

How about  LSHIPM  (Laughing So Hard I Pissed Myself) Though this appropriate thanks to the go potty post. Peter

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ROFFLOL

Monday April 24th Discussion of a cleaner, gentler version of ROFF continues this week

<and cetera

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much good snippeded.. Walt, far beit for me to call into question your sage advise, but on Upper Creek the odds of seeing is pretty fair; however, the odds of being bitten is anyone’s guess!  Caution is emphasized!  In addition to everything else I own, I ,always, carry a snake bite kit. Which leads me to another thought: Are there any good sherpas coming to the Clave! Opie and so are the snakes. i’d like to emphasize that the odds of seeing,

snippage… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – a serpent is extremely remote, the situation does exist so take a little bit more care than usual moving up a stream, especially where you put your hands when climbing. waldo

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C… leaves are coming out… and so are the snakes….

Oh man.  Bears and goats and underwear and snakes and trees and…and….and…jeez!  What kind of people are you??!

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By midweek they’re drinking Metamucil instead of scotch and crashing at 9 o’clock.

But up plenty early to see PJ drag *your* ass out of bed<g. — Charlie…

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By midweek they’re drinking Metamucil instead of scotch and crashing at 9 o’clock. But up plenty early to see PJ drag *your* ass out of bed<g. — Charlie…

which is well worth the price of admission also…. although jeff, mark, and i got some serious fishing done this past week, there’s still plenty left to do. the best moment i had was on a little feeder stream in the wilson watershed… jeff, after much ado, standing in a small waterfall, bow & arrowed a stimulator through a tight gauntlet of rhodo into a small stone faced pool …. he was rewarded with a truly beautiful wild brown of about 10-12 inches and i was rewarded with the satisfaction of  viewing a well done presentation in a damn near impossible scenario. way to go jeffie, you’ve earned your small stream badge one other note of import…. spring is here… leaves are coming out… and so are the snakes. i’d like to emphasize that the odds of seeing, much less being bitten by a serpent is extremely remote, the situation does exist so take a little bit more care than usual moving up a stream, especially where you put your hands when climbing. waldo

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< great stuff snipped With blatant disregard for the feelings of those who won’t be arriving at the clave until later in the week, Tom Brown posts the Clave Kickoff menu, generating a collective outporing of drool not experienced since Greg Pavlov’s last post. …

For future reference, it’s been my observation that it’s best to arrive at a ‘Clave as early as possible. Tom’s Opening Ceremonies feast is one good reason, another is that the geezers are still able to party and socialize a bit early in the week. By midweek they’re drinking Metamucil instead of scotch and crashing at 9 o’clock. — Ken Fortenberry

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Definitely first class synopsis and commentary Steve.  Hope you will continue the weekly satire.

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Monday April 24th [snip] Meanwhile the Dueling Daves (Tripper and LaCourse) get in an argument about who could wade the best back when they were both healthy enough to actually fish standing up. [snip] And that’s the week that was. Until next time, –Steve

we need a new acronym because ROTFLMBO is and understatement after reading this weeks report.

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Monday April 24th Discussion of a cleaner, gentler version of ROFF continues this week

        oh, hell, man, this was terrific.  but not accurate.  i am the guy in charge of getting the *t-shirt* put together.  my little boy is the designer.  and louie laplac is the hat guy. wayno, always a stickler for the truth.

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oh, hell, man, this was terrific.  but not accurate.  i am the guy in charge of getting the *t-shirt* put together.  my little boy is the designer.  and louie laplac is the hat guy.

Aw, crap. I knew that. My bad. Sorry LaCourse. –Steve

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Aw, crap. I knew that. My bad. Sorry LaCourse.

Here’s a way to help you remember: when you think hat, think head. That leads to head up the ass, which leads to Forty. Since nobody would ever wear a hat designed by Forty, it has to be LaPlac! <g — Charlie…

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Totally freaking hilarious, Steve. You’ve founf your calling. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Totally freaking hilarious, Steve. You’ve founf your calling.

I agree.  I love reading Steve’s new week review.  :-) — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html Before you buy.

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Monday April 24th Discussion of a cleaner, gentler version of ROFF continues this week with topics falling into the following general categories: (1) Newbies are idiots; (2) People who call newbies idiots are idiots (3) People who whine about calling newbies idiots are idiots (4) People who get upset at those who whine about newbies being called idiots are idiots. Meanwhile the Dueling Daves (Tripper and LaCourse) get in an argument about who could wade the best back when they were both healthy enough to actually fish standing up. Vern suggests a new idea for a "telecopying" wading staff that will apparently allow you to send and receive lewd FAXes while fishing instead of having to sit on the cold copy machine at the office. Tuesday April 25th BillyFish exposes fly fishing’s dirty little secret (literally) when he poses the question "how do you go potty when you’re on a float tube in the middle of a lake?" Noted suggestions include: (1) soil yourself and change clothes when you get back to the car–Ken Fortenberry; (2) Wade wet and no one will know–Charlie Choc; (3) use the "Stadium Pal", which consists of three parts: an external catheter worn like a condom, a flexible hose, and a collection bag worn on the inner calf–Frank Reid. Incidentally, the Stadium Pal Web site provides a helpful sizing template you can use to determine what size catheter is the best fit–see http://www.stadiumpal.com/sizer.htm for details. NOTE to Muskie: don’t worry about printing out the template–the 23mm size should give you plenty of room to grow. Wednesday April 26th Political debate of the relative advantages of stiff versus limp resurfaces, with Democrats advocating a stiff leader and Republicans calling for a limp leader, for obvious reasons. The Roadless Initiative issue (aka the Ted Turner plan) is discussed, with several interesting facts being brought to the attention of the group: (1) 98 percent of the earth’s surface is covered in asphalt; (2) animals that have been seen by man are not wild–by definition–so therefore there is no proof that wild animals have ever existed; (3) The West is full of fat people passing themselves off as outdoorsmen. Thursday April 27th Planning for the upcoming Carolina Clave reaches a fever pitch. The Dueling Daves finally call a truce to their wader argument and begin fighting over how long it will take them to get to the Clave. Fortunately for everyone else, the thread quickly morphs into a YAWTDIYSABT (Yet Another What To Do If You See A Bear Thread). With blatant disregard for the feelings of those who won’t be arriving at the clave until later in the week, Tom Brown posts the Clave Kickoff menu, generating a collective outporing of drool not experienced since Greg Pavlov’s last post. With Wayne Harrison–this year’s Carolina Clave Hat Designer–not around for much of the week, speculation abounds that the Clave hat will be adorned with the familiar Born-Again-ROFFian acronym "WWJD", which of course stands for "What Would Jehrke Do?". We’ll have to await his response to see if these rumors are accurate. Friday April 28th Indian Joe has graciously offered to provide the meat for the Clave Chili (aka Chili con Carnage). Apparently he’ll also be providing the chopped tomatoes, left over from the Clave meal he prepared in October. A discussion of Claves for the Next Millenium (aka 2001) begins, with suggestions for California (are there fish left in California?) and Florida (are you allowed to fish at Disney World?) being offered as suggestions. Unfortunately, yours truly cannot in good faith accept the nomination as Florida Clavemeister because, well, I get *really* seasick standing in a boat and I think Steve Spurrier is Satan. Saturday April 29th Someone asks a question about strike indicators and receives plenty of advice, not the least on-topic of which is that you just gotta see the movie "U-571." By now it has become obvious from the repeated trip reports presented by Waldo and Jeffy that they are trying to fish their brains out this week and next, knowing full well that all fish within 150 miles of Boone will be permanently spooked during the week of May 7th due to increase alcohol and urine content in the water during that time. They also must have seen the weather reports for that week which report scattered Fortenberries. And finally, Dave LaCourse shares with ROFF the fact that "you do not need a prostate to pee straight or have sex." Which begs the question: why even bother to get your prostate checked if you can still do those two things? But seriously everyone, if you’re over 40 don’t forget to Turn-and-Cough and Jiffy-Lube once a year. And that’s the week that was. Until next time, –Steve

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I am wondering what type of experiences people have had fishing smallmouth in the Quetico in early September.  We have a group who has gone on several spring trips thinking about a fall trip.  Several of us are fly fishermen, so in particular, I’m wondering if the fish use shallow areas this time of year or if they begin to go deep. Thanks Peter Jonas Iron Mountain, MI

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I am wondering what type of experiences people have had fishing smallmouth in the Quetico in early September.  We have a group who has gone on several spring trips thinking about a fall trip.  Several of us are fly fishermen, so in particular, I’m wondering if the fish use shallow areas this time of year or if they begin to go deep.

        They are still deep in early Sept. Don’t forget they don’t care about the air temp., they care about the water temp. And by the end of Aug. the water is as warm there as it gets. Mornings and evenings might still be okay though. But otherwise think late Sept., early Oct. tgb

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(snip) Thanks, Dave

Dave, Don’t fish in Virginia!  There are no fish here!  All the fish are in Pennsylvania!  More fish are in New York!  So, don’t fish the Shenandoah, the upper Potomac, Stoney Creek, etc.  THERE ARE NO FISH THERE!  HONEST!!  Fish the Inner Harbor at Baltimore!  Many fish there.  More than you can possibly catch! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Hello all, I am moving to Baltimore ,MD after the first of the year and was wondering what there is for flyfishing available within about a 2 hour drive of the city. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave

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I saw on the Trout Unlimited web site http://www.tutv.org/html/maryland.html info about the Gunpowder river outside of DC.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, I am moving to Baltimore ,MD after the first of the year and was wondering what there is for flyfishing available within about a 2 hour drive of the city. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave

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There is this little body of water that some call the Chesapeake Bay. There are a few fish in it. Good luck.

Hello all, I am moving to Baltimore ,MD after the first of the year and was wondering what there is for flyfishing available within about a 2 hour drive of the city. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave — Flyfish NC                                                   Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com                                                                  

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Dave –         There’s more water within a couple of hours of Baltimore than you could reasonably fish in a lifetime.   I’ve lived in that area (actually DC) off and on for many years, and I’d be happy to introduce you to some of the local waters.   Drop me an email, and we’ll arrange to talk sometime.                                 Michael Roegner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, I am moving to Baltimore ,MD after the first of the year and was wondering what there is for flyfishing available within about a 2 hour drive of the city. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave

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Dave, I Live in Baltimore and fish the Gunpowder river, at least once a week. It is about a 30-45 minute drive, depending on where you live.  Since our drought last summer, the fishing hasn’t been too hot. Plus the bay tribs are great for stripers now. Mark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, I am moving to Baltimore ,MD after the first of the year and was wondering what there is for flyfishing available within about a 2 hour drive of the city. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave

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Dave: Ditto that for me.   I’m 20 mi north of Balto.   Two excellent fly shops in the area, The Fisherman’s Edge & On the Fly.   A couple good streams nearby, dozens more within a few hours’ drive. Drop me a line & I’ll fill you in. Joe Fleischman

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dave – There’s more water within a couple of hours of Baltimore than you could reasonably fish in a lifetime.   I’ve lived in that area (actually DC) off and on for many years, and I’d be happy to introduce you to some of the local waters.   Drop me an email, and we’ll arrange to talk sometime. Michael Roegner Hello all, I am moving to Baltimore ,MD after the first of the year and was wondering what there is for flyfishing available within about a 2 hour drive of the city. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave

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Hello, this is Caddis 7 I saw on the Trout Unlimited web site

http://www.tutv.org/html/maryland.html info about the Gunpowder river outside of DC. Hello all, I am moving to Baltimore ,MD after the first of the year and was wondering what there is for flyfishing available within about a 2 hour drive of the city. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave

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Hello, this is Caddis 7

I read you, Caddis 7.  How are things out there?  Over. a big 10-4, buddy.  Mark Faulkner

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Hi,     I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                         Ken

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I went with a guide a couple of years ago on the Quinault, looking for Kings. Fishing was just fair for most parties, although two of us stuck to our guns with flys and were fishless late in the afternoon. The guide finally hooked into a 20 lb King (he said it was a Steelhead, go figure) using a 6" dayglo orange flatfish. He handed me the rod and it was a lot of fun. So I would suggest big colorful streamers. Maybe even reeaally big, like a bunny bug in bright colors. Always have some dark ones too, especially purple. The 8wt will be ok for the Silvers and smaller Kings, but the Quinault has been know to produce 60lb Kings, so if you do hook one of those, god help you, and just hope that your party has the patience to wait an hour or more for you to land it, if it doesn’t break you off (or bust your rod!) Bring your rain gear and a thermos of hot coffee! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,     I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                         Ken

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Your setup sounds just right, I’de trust your guide but an october caddis in a 6 to 4 for a floating line and a kaufmans stone fly dark for a sink tip shooting head line for steelhead… fish the spots the guide recommends as the water will be all yours and very under fished, excellent choice… just a thought… I’de be glad to answer any other questions you may have at

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi,    I’ll be fishing with a reservation guide on the Quinault river (WA state) on Oct 19th.  We’re going for Kings and Silvers.  She knows nothing about flyfishing and I’ll be the only one in my party bringing a flyrod.  If there’s anyone out there familiar with the area I would appreciate exchanging emails cause I really would rather not go cold. I’m pretty new at salmon fishing. Here are some starter questions I have: What flies are best? What is a good line/leader set up (I’m bringing a 10′ 8wt)? Any other tips for this area in the Oct. time of year? Thanks!                        Ken

Hi Ken, I don’t know that river, but Oct is a great month to fish in the Northwest for steelhead. There might be some fall Kings, late Silvers and some Sea run Cutthroats too? I would have a floating line and a T-300 or similar line. Get some stiffer 71/2 foot 0x to 2x leaders and matching tippet material. Get some black flies like a Bunny Leeches, Egg Sucking Bugger or any black steelhead patterns. Get some bright colored flashing flies in orange or chartreuse. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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says… Hi, I’m planning a trip to the Banff/Lake Louise area in early Sept. Any info re: hotels, guides, expected conditions and how to escape the tourists would be appreciated. Thanks in advance JT

The Bow around Banff will be clear and low – blue winged olives will be the fly to try for rainbows or browns,  or cutthroats in the upper reaches. Rocky mountain whitefish are common, and the odd bull trout (Alberta’s provincial fish) is an interesting possibility.  Lake trout will be on deep trolling only that time of year – but can be a blast with a fly rod and a streamer on a downrigger (makes the purists scream too!) Brookies mainly in the beaverponds and oxbows of the Bow River. Hotels will still be charging high season rates – about double what they are at the end of the month. There is an excellent hostel in Banff, and another one in Lake Louise – you may want to check with your local International Hostel Association for membership/rates. You are (will be) a tourist. But there’s tons of backcountry to ‘escape’ to and a good guide will help.   Try Upper Bow Valley Fly Fishing in Banff- Dan Bell at (403) 760-7668 fax 762-8263 – he a super drift boat guide, has excxellent knowledge of area lakes, or can even arrange for a helicopter trip if you’ve got the budget. My close second choice would be the Green Drake Fly Shop in Canmore (403) 678-9525 fax (403) 678-2183  They do a lot of guiding, and have an excellent little shop that while difficult to find – is worth your while. Free and friendly and specific advise to c&r fishers. Tight lines & short strings Andrew Whittick   Banff Alberta

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Hi, I’m planning a trip to the Banff/Lake Louise area in early Sept. Any info re: hotels, guides, expected conditions and how to escape the tourists would be appreciated. Thanks in advance JT

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says… Hi, I’m planning a trip to the Banff/Lake Louise area in early Sept. Any info re: hotels, guides, expected conditions and how to escape the tourists would be appreciated. Thanks in advance JT

ps – almost forgot when fishing in Canada’s Mountain National Parks – you may not use lead weighted flys or lead weights less than 50 grams. No such restrictions outside of the parks though.  Floating the Bow River from Banff to Canmore will require a National Parl fishing license, and an Alberta license. Both are quite inexepensive (under $20 CDN) Andrew Whittick   Banff Alberta

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I’ll be in Los Angeles on business in late April.  Can anyone offer advice on the Kern River, or any other good rivers close enough to fish in a day trip from LA?  Conditions?  Recommended flies?  All advice appreciated. Thanks, George Black

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I’ll be in Los Angeles on business in late April.  Can anyone offer advice on the Kern River, or any other good rivers close enough to fish in a day trip from LA?  Conditions?  Recommended flies?  All advice appreciated. Thanks, George Black

Hi George, You might take a look at the Aguabonita Fly Fishers home page. The club is located in Ridgecrest, California. I believe the Kern is one of their home waters. The site can be accessed at: http://www1.ridgecrest.ca.us/~auborn/agua/agua.html I hope this helps,    Alan.   Alan Barnard   Kiene’s Fly Shop   Sacramento, California   WWW Fly Tyer   http://www.ns.net/~barnard

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I learned to fly fish on the Kern and can tell you a little about it. Firstly, there is an incredible motel/steak house up the Kern from Kernville called Johnny McNally’s that you absolutely must stay at.  They serve a 48 ounce porterhouse called "The Logger" that you can cut with a fork.  Try the 28 ounce Filet.   Onto fishing… Drive up the Kern past McNally’s to the Johnsondale Bridge.  The road that parallels the River departs at this point.  Park here and hike up the river and fish as you go.  There is about 4-5 miles of trails up the gorge and all the fishing is single barbless artificials only.  You can keep two a day over 14".  BE CAREFUL!!    I’ve been stopped twice out of three visits by the game marshal.  Don’t waste your time on the weekends below the bridge, but during the week it is not crowded.  I’ve heard that the San Gabriel is a good spot for fishing, but there have been gang problems. Get a good topographical map of the region- there is also the entire Golden Trout Wilderness farther up the Kern you need to explore.  

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 I’ve heard that the San Gabriel is a good spot for fishing, but there have been gang problems.

What sort of problems have you heard about?  I’ve fish the West fork a few times recently and have wondered about all the graffitti.   Rick Krizman KrizManic Music,   Venice, CA

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Forget it. Nothing but frustration in store for you. Get some float tubes instead.

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I would like some information regarding the usefullneess of this boat for two persons flyfishing. Specifically:

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Greenstone lake, the first that you get to, seems to have a small brook trout population but there are so many others that it’s hardly worth fishing.

One of the funnier things I’ve seen while fishing happened here.  A couple of spin fisherman were fishing Greenstone and one hooked about a 6" brookie.  His buddy got the net, which had a handle about three feet long and a rim about 2 feet in diameter.  It was big enough to net salmon for god’s sake. Well, as he went to lift the trout out of the water, it fell through the webbing on the net.  I got a good chuckle to say the least.

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A friend was in at Saddlebag two weeks ago and said the ground was still fairly soggy…..alot of the High Country won’t be opened up this year at all, as fall/winter is beginning to happen already (last week it got down to 35 deg 3 nights straight at 6870 ft. elevation. As far as fishing, it’s been suprising how few trout are actually surface feeding this year in the Sierra (Ralph Cutter- can you shed some light on this and/or confirm/deny ??).   All I’m able to attribute it to is the lower than customary temperature of the water. There *are* hatches, although they are much later than usual, but the fish seeem to be ignoring them. The few that I’ve kept have been **PACKED** with nymphs, hoppers, ants and beetles, but not alot of "surface bugs". I indicator nymphed and worked a pair of ants (one flying, one hardshell) and picked up a few fish….but certainly nothing to boast about. Tried soft-hackele wets for hours with no takers..upstream, down and across and downstream…..started to curse Dave Huges and Sylvester Nemes below my breath, but decided that I’d save that for my third and likely final attempt at this "old New Style" of flyfishing. Don’t know if it would be worth the effort of canoeing and then trekking farther; I’ve heard Mammoth has been pretty good this year, you may want to give it a go instead!!

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At the end of September I’m thinking of heading up to Saddlebage Lake, canoeing accross and hiking around the Conness Lakes/Glacier are to fish for Goldens.  Has anyone been up there lately or at this time of year.  I know it’ll probabaly be a bit cold since its above 10,000 feet. What flies should I bring?  Nymphs, Caddis, Terresterals?  Any advice would be appreciated.  

I haven’t been up there in a few years but this is one of my favorite areas.  I also used a canoe to get across the lake and  then carried it up on the shore a bit and stashed my oars up by a tree a bit up the trail. Greenstone lake, the first that you get to, seems to have a small brook trout population but there are so many others that it’s hardly worth fishing.  The next lake (Wasco) is a little better and I’ve caught fish of a decent size.  Steelhead lake (the biggest in the basin) has been hit and miss for me.  Cascade lake, and the small lake in between it and Steelhead are both real good.  The shallows at the south end of the lake are teeming with brookies in the evening.  There is another small lake (Towser) that is supposed to be a Golden trout only lake and I’ve caught a couple real small ones in it.  Shamrock lake has been one of the best producers for brookies for me and it’s probably the prettiest in the basin.  To the South of Shamrock as you head up the hill there are a couple of other small lakes that are supposed to be Golden trout lakes but I’ve never found them.  At the top of the hill in the center of the basin is Z-lake.  I have caught more brookies in that lake then any of the other lakes.  Helen Lake and Odell have produced much for me and I believe that Odell is supposed to be a golden trout only lake as well. I haven’t fished Hummingbird but I hear it has a large brookie population, so much so that the fish are stunted. There are three lakes up above the waterfall below the glacier that are worth the hike only because they are so pretty.  The first one is almost a tourquiose color.  Unfortunately I was told that these lakes froze solid a few years ago and have not been restocked.  That was about five years ago so it may have changed. If the fish are hitting the surface I have had the best luck with grey hackle peacocks, grey hackle yellows, Sierra brite dots, and coachmens. If they are not,  various nymphs like GR hares ears, prince nymphs, Birds nests, pheasant tails, and a few emerger patterns all seem to work.   I fished all of these patterns with an ultralight spinning rod and a casting bubble.  For the grey hackles, etc, I filled the bubble half full of water and fished them wet just below the surface with a *very* slow retrieve.   For the nymphs I fill the bubble up all the way and then cast and count down several seconds before begining the retrieve. As is the case with any of the areas in the Sierra you should be prepared for any kind of weather.  I’ve been there twice in September when it has snowed.  One time a friend of mine and I drove up and camped at Tioga lake campground because we arrived too late in the day.  He got up the next morning and went out in my canoe on Tioga lake.  He paddled out about 100′ and decided it was too cold.  He knocked on my camper shell window and said that he had to come in and warm up.  We ended up driving around a bit because the heater wasn’t warming fast enough.  It was probably a good three hours before he felt normal again.  Hypothermia is a very real possibility this time of year and it’s nothing to fool around with.  If we had camped out the night before in the basin like we had planned it could have been *real* serious. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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At the end of September I’m thinking of heading up to Saddlebage Lake, canoeing accross and hiking around the Conness Lakes/Glacier are to fish for Goldens.  Has anyone been up there lately or at this time of year.  I know it’ll probabaly be a bit cold since its above 10,000 feet. What flies should I bring?  Nymphs, Caddis, Terresterals?  Any advice would be appreciated.   "Never get suckered into defending the cost of your fishing habit on a cost per pound basis.  It’ll only embarrass or depress you.  The only measurement that makes sense at all is the cost per cast…So, if you are long on effort and short on results, remember that the more you cast, the cheaper it gets."                                             -Tully Stroud Chris Anderson San Fransicko

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