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My provider has warned me that my account will be suspended, due to my sending off-topic posts, and insults. This is a direct result of Gehrkes lies. A copy of the first post is appended. I can not afford to lose my Usenet access at this time, I need it for my work.  As a consequence, I have no choice but to unsubscribe from ROFF. If you wish to contact me,.please use e-mail. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:53 AM Hallo Herr Connor, bitte den "Privatkrieg" beenden, hier kommen Beschwerden

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cute Bill. I like it. Joel Axelrad

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More Beer  Having arrived at the edge of the river, the fisherman soon realized he had forgotten to bring any bait. Just then he happened to see a little snake passing by who had caught a worm. The fisherman snatched up the snake and  robbed him of his worm. Feeling sorry for the little snake with no lunch, he snatched him up again and poured a little beer down his throat and went about his fishing. An hour or so later the fisherman felt a tug at hispant leg.  Looking down, he saw the same snake with three more worms. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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Remember Herters? The case that finally dove them into bankruptcy was importing flies and fly tying material from India (and other countries).   I would think customs inspectors would see a red light when any thing like a feather showed up in the baggage of a traveler just back from India.  I don’t think the money saved would be worth the trouble.

I got the impression he was bringing a kit to tie with while he was *in* India which is why I recommended looking there for materials instead of bringing them *into* India. FWIW — Charlie…

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I think your right.  It just sounded like the tread was evolving to the point where the guy was going to bring a cotton sack full of feathers back with him. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got the impression he was bringing a kit to tie with while he was *in* India which is why I recommended looking there for materials instead of bringing them *into* India. FWIW — Charlie…

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Yes,  I was just after the most basic materials to take,  just in case I couldn’t find them there. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think your right.  It just sounded like the tread was evolving to the point where the guy was going to bring a cotton sack full of feathers back with him. I got the impression he was bringing a kit to tie with while he was *in* India which is why I recommended looking there for materials instead of bringing them *into* India. FWIW — Charlie…

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Remember Herters?  The case that finally dove them into bankruptcy was importing flies and fly tying material from India (and other countries).   I would think customs inspectors would see a red light when any thing like a feather showed up in the baggage of a traveler just back from India.  I don’t think the money saved would be worth the trouble. There are shops around here that sell crafts from third world countries.  I have not checked them out because they are mostly "pottery and useless things that women buy"..  If they sold fly I would consider buying from them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore), What kind of fish? Since a good percent of the worlds commercially tied flies come from India there may be plenty of materials available there. — Charlie…

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Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore),  and I’m taking 2 rods 9′ #6 & 9′ #10 (both 4 piecers to go on plane with me).  I shall be taking a small travellers’ flytying kit with me,  and some crucial materials plus the hooks (large and small).  Space & weight is really limited (after all,  this is supposed to be a business trip),  so perhaps a black silk thread,  some fine copper wire, ~ but what else? What would you guys take?  I have semi made up my mind on the materials, but would like to hear some recommendations.

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What species of fish will you be fishing for? How long will you be there? Are we talking fresh or salt water? George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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Mike, I would definitely take some marabou and chenille as this is relatively light and flat so is easily packed. Are you still up for the fly swap. E-mail me if any problems. Chris

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Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore),  

What kind of fish? Since a good percent of the worlds commercially tied flies come from India there may be plenty of materials available there. — Charlie…

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Are you Richard Cook ("RC")? I received an email from RC about a fly-swap, 12 contesters or something;  is this the fly swap you mention? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike, I would definitely take some marabou and chenille as this is relatively light and flat so is easily packed. Are you still up for the fly swap. E-mail me if any problems. Chris

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What species of fish will you be fishing for? How long will you be there? Are we talking fresh or salt water?"

I really don’t know what I’ll be after.  In fact it is a perfect mystery for me.  I have once stumbled over some writings by a British Army officer whilst posted in Bangalore.  He did in fact catch some tiny brownies in the streams in the hills there.  However,  I shall also be in Madras (Chennai) for a while,  and that is by the seaside.  I have only ever spent 1 week in India.  I saw the most numerous and humongous rats in Bombay; I enjoyed the relative leafy calm of Bangalore,  and I withered in the August heat of Delhi. My first day in Bangalore saw some kites from my car window in the suburbs/rural fringes.  I asked my agent what they were,  and he said that they were large predatory birds looking for "things" in the waterways.  We soon came across a bridge over one of these waterways.  Naturally I was keen to take a peek over the bridge walls.  I’ve never seen such pollution ever in my life; the water was literally a flowing mass of human waste.  God only knows what the kites were after.  There certainly were no fish in this particular stream. I will be in India on and off for some time to come.  I have already given instructions to my agent to research the topic of "fly fishing in southern India".  A topic on my agenda for "taxi from airport talk" will most definitely be "where are we going fishing then?"  "what will we be after", and (hopefully) so on. Anyway,  I’ve opted for: pheasant tail hare’s mask peacock herl starling breast feathers some seal’s fur some badger cock hackles ginger too tinsel small amount of yellow bucktail 2 starling secondaries (one from either wing) french partridge breast feathers duck flank What else should I take?

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Michael, yes this is the fly swap. You sent me a message saying you wantyed to participate in the fly swap, sorry if this is not you. Please advise if you will be participating in the swap. Thanks Chris

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Must have been a while ago,  as I obviously must have forgotten.  Either that or bad memory.  Did I really mail a message saying I would?    Mmm, I’m getting to the point wherefrom  I forget how bad my  memory really is. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael, yes this is the fly swap. You sent me a message saying you wantyed to participate in the fly swap, sorry if this is not you. Please advise if you will be participating in the swap. Thanks Chris

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You should be able to obtain more than sufficient tying supplies in India. Quite a lot of stuff is on offer there for tying.  A friend of mine brought back several hundred quite excellent capes from India, but that was over twenty years ago.  Might be worth having a good look around though. Be careful about CITES regulations if you bring anything back with you. I would probably take along a hares mask, a starling skin, and get the rest there.  I assume you will be fishing in hill streams for brownies, I vaguely remember reading something about this a long time ago, but I have forgotten where. I also recall reading that many rivers in India are so badly polluted that fishing is more or less a waste of time. Might even be worth while to concentrate on getting some good tying materials, and forget the fishing.  I recall my friend telling me he only fished twice while he was there, once for trout, and once for something like perch, the rest of the time he wandered around collecting materials. Got some magnificent stuff too. Whatever, hope you have a nice time there. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend?

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Check import of natural materials.  For example, I think Japan bans peacock. Don’t know anything about India.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore),  and I’m taking 2 rods 9′ #6 & 9′ #10 (both 4 piecers to go on plane with me).  I shall be taking a small travellers’ flytying kit with me,  and some crucial materials plus the hooks (large and small).  Space & weight is really limited (after all,  this is supposed to be a business trip),  so perhaps a black silk thread,  some fine copper wire, ~ but what else? What would you guys take?  I have semi made up my mind on the materials, but would like to hear some recommendations.

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<< What species of fish will you be fishing for? How long will you be there? Are we talking fresh or salt water?"

I really don’t know what I’ll be after.  In fact it is a perfect mystery for me.  I have once stumbled over some writings by a British Army officer whilst posted in Bangalore.  He did in fact catch some tiny brownies in the streams in the hills there. << Michael"   A quick search under Mahseer, a species I remember from reading books by colonial British sportsmen, found the following, among 80 other sites.  I have no connection to this or any other fishing site and relay it only as a possible source of info. "Mahseer Fishing Holidays in India with Chandertal Tours The finest freshwater fighting fish in the world? The Mahseer is regarded by many anglers as simply the best sport available, and the first time you hook a sizeable one you will discover why! Today, it can be found mostly in India and Burma." http://www.adventure-mag.com/Default.asp?Adventure=14 I think I recall that Mahseer are the largest members of the minnow family, running well past 100 lbs.  Legendarily, one needs deep sea gear to land them. Probably horsehooey; in Indian rivers today you probably are casting for Coney Island Whitefish.  The Mahseer in the picture at that site is pretty impressive though. Keep us posted. Glenn GKT

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<< What species of fish will you be fishing for? How long will you be there? Are we talking fresh or salt water?"

I really don’t know what I’ll be after.  In fact it is a perfect mystery for me.  I have once stumbled over some writings by a British Army officer whilst posted in Bangalore.  He did in fact catch some tiny brownies in the streams in the hills there.   << Michael"   Forget my last post about a web site on Mahseer.  Look at the picture at this site http://www.indianwildlife.com/angling_mahseersouth.htm It would take a fish like that to convince me to stand half-naked in a river in India, and the sucker had better have fought like a tarpon.  Anyway, this site was under "southern" India and Bangalore.  Good luck. Maybe there are still exotic species tucked away in corners where people haven’t completely crapped up the world. GKT

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Assuming that space is drastically limited  (i.e. business trip overseas), what limited flytying materials would you recommend? I’m off to southern India (Bangalore),  and I’m taking 2 rods 9′ #6 & 9′ #10 (both 4 piecers to go on plane with me).  I shall be taking a small travellers’ flytying kit with me,  and some crucial materials plus the hooks (large and small).  Space & weight is really limited (after all,  this is supposed to be a business trip),  so perhaps a black silk thread,  some fine copper wire, ~ but what else? What would you guys take?  I have semi made up my mind on the materials, but would like to hear some recommendations.

Penicillin. And plenty of it.

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Wonderful story – I felt like I was there.  Sometimes those "blown" trips are incredible.              Frank Reid Before you buy.

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I’ve been away from ROFF for a while (1450 messages worth it seems) as I’ve been out in Utah with the family. I won’t go into all of the gory fishing details–but I will share a couple of reports (in installments). Monday the 17th I had scheduled a float trip down the Snake River near Jackson, Wyoming. I arrived in Alpine the evening before to stay at a motel where I had scheduled to meet the guide. Earlier in the afternoon I had been running around on some grass with my girls and I *ran into a swingset* cutting open my knee. I put a bandage on it, tried to act composed, and headed for Alpine. By the time I got to Alpine, the knee was swollen badly and I could hardly get out of the car. I couldn’t bend the knee at all. I was worried about not being able to fish the next day, so I packed some ice on the knee for a while before heading to sleep. I awoke the next morning at 5:00 to the sound of hard rain and thunder. At 7:00 when the guide met me, it was still raining hard and a look up the canyon showed little relief. The guide said he’d take me down the river if that’s what I wanted to do–but he recommended against it, especially because of the lightning. We decided instead to take an impromptu trip to Grey’s River Canyon where he offered to accompany me to fish (wading, not floating) the river. Grey’s River is awesome–it’s easy to wade and has nice pools all up and down the river. Wild cutthroat trout up to 22 inches or so. It is National Forest water and a dirt road follows it for some 50 miles or more (I’m guessing). We drove up the canyon quite a way and began fishing. The weather was cloudy but we saw no rain. I started with streamers and caught a few nice fish–mostly just buying time until a bit of surface action began. Much of the streamer fishing was dapping in deep pools with heavy stuff. I caught several fish–at least one over 18 inches. But casting was absolutely no fun at all. We came to quite a nice pool that was rather difficult to get to–it involved walking down the side of a steep drop-off. Nothing that would have been hard had my knee been "normal" but it was hard not being able to bend my left leg. Anyway, I made it down to the hole and started the down-and-across huck and chuck. I managed to snag the streamer–or at least thought I had–until I started pulling really hard and the "snag" started swimming upstream. The fish went upstream about 25 feet and just held there for a while. I couldn’t seem to pull it down to me nor could I wade up to the fish. Finally, it got tired of the standstill and took off down stream. The current was very fast and I lost a lot of line in a hurry. The guide kept saying "let her run, let her run" but I freaked out and choked off the line once the fish got about 75 feet downstream. Snap. No more fish on my 3X leader. I could make a number of excuses, but the fact of the matter is that I CHOKED!!! I had never before had a fish run on me like that and I botched it real good. But I learned a lesson that would prove helpful later in the week. Dries started working really well in the afternoon and I caught a number of fish in the 16-18" range and many others in the 12-14" range. Parachute Adams was the fly of the day. Grey’s River is very beautiful and from what I can tell is not very crowded if you’re willing to drive up the canyon a bit. I’ll be back again to catch that big fish another day. I’ll do the Snake float another time as well. –Steve

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I just arrived in L.A., and after picking up the rental car, drove by Bob Marriott’s en route to my hotel.!  How’s that for addiction??? I’m here for one week (work-related, not fishing), so I thought I’d enter into the spirit of things and wish all you ruffian ROFFians a happy 4th July. — Pete, Brisbane, Australia To reply by email, remove the "SPAMLESS" from the address in the header.

        thanks, mate…up the empire! wayno

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Thanks, Pete.  On behalf of the yanks on ROFF I’ll extend a welcome to the US – even though LA is (in my opinion) not necessarily representative of the rest of the country.  Go east, young man! (at least to the Rockies!) Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just arrived in L.A., and after picking up the rental car, drove by Bob Marriott’s en route to my hotel.!  How’s that for addiction??? I’m here for one week (work-related, not fishing), so I thought I’d enter into the spirit of things and wish all you ruffian ROFFians a happy 4th July. — Pete, Brisbane, Australia To reply by email, remove the "SPAMLESS" from the address in the header.

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Happy 4th to you too.  I am planning to trip to your country in November.  Any fly fishing that way?  

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says… Happy 4th to you too.  I am planning to trip to your country in November.  Any fly fishing that way?  

You betcha!  Try Tasmania, home of some huge wild brown trout.  I can recommend London Lakes Lodge. http://www.londonlakes.com.au/domino/londonlakes/londonlakes.nsf/html- v/home This is run by Jason and Barbara Garrett – Jason was the captain of the Australia flyfishing team, and is extremely knowledgable.  The London Lakes complex is 5000 acres of privately owned and superbly managed fishery.  Sight-fishing for huge brownies at its best!  Tell them Pete from Brisbane sent you. ) Also, excellent stream and large lake fishing in the Snowy Mountains and the Monaro district on mainland Australia in New South Wales.   The world flyfishing championships are being held in the Snowy region this year, particularly on Lake Jindabyne and some of the excellent trout streams high up in the mountains. Depending on the time of year of your visit, closed season is usually June to August, re-opening in September or thereabouts. — Pete, Brisbane, Australia To reply by email, remove the "SPAMLESS" from the address in the header.

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I just arrived in L.A., and after picking up the rental car, drove by Bob Marriott’s en route to my hotel.!  How’s that for addiction???

Last time I was in LA for a weeklong vacation, I lept out of bed at 5:30 every morning, didn’t brush my teeth, didn’t bother getting out of my sleeping clothes and immediately hopped into the rental car with my buddy from Boston and drove straight for the ocean. ( Took one day to go fish San Diego and another to ride a party boat with some non-fishing friends).  Came back at noon and raided my host’s kitchen, took a shower with my fly lines and then hung them up to dry.  I was a groomsman in a wedding party on the last day I was there.  We went fishing that morning too. Landlocked Mu

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I just arrived in L.A., and after picking up the rental car, drove by Bob Marriott’s en route to my hotel.!  How’s that for addiction??? I’m here for one week (work-related, not fishing), so I thought I’d enter into the spirit of things and wish all you ruffian ROFFians a happy 4th July. — Pete, Brisbane, Australia To reply by email, remove the "SPAMLESS" from the address in the header.

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Hi. I am looking for your help and information on a project that I have going at present. I am producing a guide to the best places to fish and require information from your area. The information I need is of course the best fishing locations,species to target,methods of catching the fish,tackle used,local tackle shops accommodation etc.Please also classify the type of fishing it is,i.e boat,game,fly,coarse etc…. If the information provided is used,you will receive a credit to your name for providing the information. You may even be contacted as the local guide for the area if you wish. If possible,I would like information as to where the location is,be it by hand drawing or other,the nearest airport and port. This is a big project and your help will be greatly appreciated. Please send details by return e-mail and an acknowledgement will be sent to you. Kind regards. Paul Suggitt If you received this e-mail in error,then please accept my sincere apologies for bothering you. If you type remove in the subject line and return the mail,I will ensure that you will not be bothered again!

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One should be careful of posts like this, it MAY open you up to spam in your personal emailbox, and being added to a master email list for unsolicited ads that get sold these days. Post suggestions to the ng, thats what this is for right? JohnM

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi. I am looking for your help and information on a project that I have going at present. I am producing a guide to the best places to fish and require information from your area. The information I need is of course the best fishing locations,species to target,methods of catching the fish,tackle used,local tackle shops accommodation etc.Please also classify the type of fishing it is,i.e boat,game,fly,coarse etc…. If the information provided is used,you will receive a credit to your name for providing the information. You may even be contacted as the local guide for the area if you wish. If possible,I would like information as to where the location is,be it by hand drawing or other,the nearest airport and port. This is a big project and your help will be greatly appreciated. Please send details by return e-mail and an acknowledgement will be sent to you. Kind regards. Paul Suggitt If you received this e-mail in error,then please accept my sincere apologies for bothering you. If you type remove in the subject line and return the mail,I will ensure that you will not be bothered again!

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Hey ,watch out for this guy , I read his post on the NG and the next day got the same crap through my e-mail program. How do you anti-spammerize your e-mail programs. I use 3 different programs to filter some of the crap out. But it still gets through. —– The RodMaker ICQ# 9754996 http://geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/2865

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you. — MB  Healy

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Can anyone tell me what it would cost to mail a one ounce letter from Australia to the United States via air mail?  Please supply the postage rate in local currency.  Thank you.

Like most of the civilised world, Australia uses the metric system. Standard size letters up to 20g are $1.05; up to 50g is $1.50. I believe one ounce is approximately 28g, making the cost $1.50. JR

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats??

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats??

Good question.

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats??

What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. — Gordon

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. — Gordon

I AM NOT!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gordon wrote… I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. It’s the way you set up your kill file :)

ROTFL! I meant Democrat or Republican, I guess! Put it down to ignorance….. — Gordon

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gordon wrote… I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. It’s the way you set up your kill file :) ROTFL! I meant Democrat or Republican, I guess! Put it down to ignorance…..

Well, that’s what you get in a country with a two party system.  BTW, Pooler is neither. cheers bob

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I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. — Gordon

All the U.S. participants are part of what some chose to call a "Two Party System"……

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. It’s the way you set up your kill file :) ROTFL! I meant Democrat or Republican, I guess! Put it down to ignorance….. Well, that’s what you get in a country with a two party system. BTW, Pooler is neither. cheers bob

And, BTW, neither is the Nixon. I voted the Reform Party in the last National Election and am likely to do so again……. McDAve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gordon wrote… In article I’m doing a research paper for Tom Daschle. Please help. Why is it that almost all of the ARAB terrorists they’ve discovered within our country, are registered Democrats?? What puzzles me is why everybody in this newsgroup is a Liberal. Or a Democrat. It’s the way you set up your kill file :) I meant Democrat or Republican, I guess! Put it down to ignorance….. Well, that’s what you get in a country with a two party system. BTW, Pooler is neither. And, BTW, neither is the Nixon. I voted the Reform Party in the last National Election and am likely to do so again…….

Well, I’m all for revolution, sorry – reform. — Gordon

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Flyfishing has without question introduced me to some of my best friends.  People whom, without the glue of our gentle sport, would most likely never have gotten the opportunity to know one another.  I think this, more than most else, is what I am most grateful for as I think back on the countless seasons spent on lake, stream and river; the thousands of hours on the road chasing our fishes; the many many campfires that always seem to end up too large.         This quality of flyfishing, it’s universal appeal to those so inclined – to bring us to a point where sharing opinions on any topic becomes as easy and comfortable as discussing what fly to use, this I feel is my

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        I’d have to agree with you on what flyfishing can do for a soul, and I’ll throw in another: those other fishermen I have met and helped, or met and been helped by, never to be seen again. Sharing moments never to be shared again, but never to be forgotten. There are a lot of GOOD people out there and its nice to meet them in some of the finest places on earth.

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My step-dad and I are going to Weaverville on Saturday for some steelhead fishing.  Any advice from recent visitors?  Lures, places, approaches? Thanks in advance.  Dave in Anderson, CA

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This is probably late advice, but I’d stay home.   The river is muddy and fishing is slow. Instead of the Trinity, I’d go over to Lewiston Lake and flyfish that area.  Or…take a drive over to the Smith River as it’s still clear enough to fish and, I understand, that the salmon and steelhead are being cooperative.  Four good updated info on the Trinity, I’d call the Eureka Fly Shop at 444-2000 or the Redding Fly Shop (I don’t have their number). Barry Brown – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My step-dad and I are going to Weaverville on Saturday for some steelhead fishing.  Any advice from recent visitors?  Lures, places, approaches? Thanks in advance.  Dave in Anderson, CA

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Anybody knows where to get good flyfishing oriented programs? Thanks

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Hi, My FlyFish software (DOS) can be downloaded from ftp.geo.mtu.edu by connecting in as anonymous, and changing directory to /pub/fishing/Software/dos. There are two files flyfish.txt and flyfish.exe, please read the flyfish.txt for installation instructions, one thing I forgot to mention was that it must be installed as a top level directory, preferably C: Have fun and let me know what you think, I am working on windows versions at the moment, Regards Chris Cox

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I’m just getting in to the sport and could use some advice on rod selection.  I’ve been looking at the Sage Discovery systems #5 9′ pack rod 4 piece, I think.  This seems to be the best rod for the things I’ll be doing (i.e. backpacking, fishing Montana, OR, WA in the summers and New England in the Fall and Spring) my dilemma is this: EVERY retailer I’ve called has had an "outfit" price of precisely the same amount, that is $280.  I’m a little surprised that there is literally NO variation in price.  Is this normal?  Am I calling all the wrong places or all the right ones?  Is this a good beginner rod that I’ll be able to grow into? I was thinking of going to the Orvis store in Boston this weekend and seeing if they had anything comperable, although from what I can tell Orvis looks to be the Nordstrom of fly fishing gear.  Is this a correct assessment?  Will Orvis have an outfit in my under $300 price range or will I be sneered out of the store by snotty, AMEX gold wielding yuppies?  Any advice you can give will be helpful.  Thanks in advance, Jack

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Well, first no I wouldn’t expect to find any bargains at an Orvis shop. It’s great stuff, but pricey. I’m building a rod for light salt water, an 8-9 weight and I got a St. Croix Imperial blank for $60.00. Now of course it’s not a Sage, but I’ve tried out the 2 piece versions and I think they’ll do just fine. The finished rods go $130 – $140 on the 7-1-93 – 6/30/94 price list, can’t imagine they’d be much higher. Couple this with a nice Medalist reel and you’ll be in business for under $200. Spend the change on a weekend trip.

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Peter… I would have to disagree with your assessment of the sage sp being less forgiving than the RPL’s.  The RPL’s action is so much quicker that your timing must be very precise, whereas the SP flexes in a manner ‘that could be categorized as medium,id est more forgiving and easier to throw.  Unfortunately this ease of castability comes at a price.  I took the dive and bought the 3 pc. 8wt. and a 9 ft. 4wt. ( pro deal) and would recommed them both particularly the 4 wt.  FOr those without positive cash flow or pro pricing ( who should this be addressed to anyway?)  and especially a beginner, you cannot go wrong with any of the large manufacturers.  In the end its all a matter of taste.  I’ve thrown MANY rods and have my own opinions which I would be glad to share with anyone who wants to hear them.  One last thing… I know of a custom rod maker in FLagstaff Arizona, Steffan Brothers, who make some of the best blanks and rods in the business and they are reasonably priced too. I have their number and can get them at a discount.  GOod Luck and tight lines! Henry

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