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ROFF Experts — Need some advice. I’m getting ready for some adventures and need some advice on best months for the following types of fish: Snook Permit Tarpon Bones I’m considering Florida Keys, Bahamas, Yucatan, Belize, etc. Any advice to offer?  Could also use some tips on good, reliable flyfishing guides in these locales. Regards Mike

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ROFF Experts — Need some advice. I’m getting ready for some adventures and need some advice on best months for the following types of fish: Snook Permit Tarpon Bones I’m considering Florida Keys, Bahamas, Yucatan, Belize, etc. Any advice to offer?  Could also use some tips on good, reliable flyfishing guides in these locales. Regards Mike

Easter Island. No regards, George Gehrke "go for the gold"

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I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone flyfish Easter Island.  Are you serious? (My questions were) Mike

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ROFF Experts — Need some advice. I’m getting ready for some adventures and need some advice on best months for the following types of fish: Snook Permit Tarpon Bones I’m considering Florida Keys, Bahamas, Yucatan, Belize, etc. Any advice to offer?  Could also use some tips on good, reliable flyfishing guides in these locales. Regards Mike Easter Island. No regards, George Gehrke "go for the gold"

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They write about mind control lasers affecting your head, and why you should wear tinfoil, but tinfoil acts as a receiver, so you get MORE of the mind control rays (are just past X-ray range, near Gamma rays. Probably are Gamma rays, actually.) Don’t tell my mother-in-law!  I finally convinced her to wear the aluminum foil helmet (made it myself, actually), and I don’t want to lose credibility with her…

when i wear my foil helmet i sound like a truck in reverse *beep beep beep* headkase – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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No, check it out, like, the device is magnetic, right? And, with enough carefull precision and some-one else’s infected butt one can carefully maneouver the device out through one’s mouth like they did in -now what was that k-ko0l christopher lambert movie in the 80’s again? Anyway, I’ve succeeded in removing mine and am currently on the road towards Mexico with a jammer in my left testicle – if all goes to plan the world will be obliterated by 7 ‘o clock this evening. I can’t give you any more details – Wish me luck. I HEAR THE OLD ONES SPEAK TO ME THROUGH JOHN TRAVOLTA’S RECTUM!!! AND STILL, THE PURPOSE OF LIFE HAS NOT YET DAWNED ON ME!!! PLACE YOUR NIPPLE IN MY MOUTH AND I WILL SHOW YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW!!! GIVE ME MY ORANGE JUICE!!! SHMOO!!! -WIZDUMB. (H3′Z S0 SL1CK) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They write about mind control lasers affecting your head, and why you should wear tinfoil, but tinfoil acts as a receiver, so you get MORE  of the mind control rays (are just past X-ray range, near Gamma rays.  Probably are Gamma rays, actually.) Don’t tell my mother-in-law!  I finally convinced her to wear the aluminum foil helmet (made it myself, actually), and I don’t want to lose  credibility with her… when i wear my foil helmet i sound like a truck in reverse *beep beep beep* headkase

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i was just let in on a conspiracy from a guy in a black suburban with a flat top…. he had lepard print cup holders and one of those bead seat covers on the passenger side… he started "have you ever met a kid that wanted to be a preast?" "no" i replied as i started out the door he grabbed me and pulled me back in proclaiming i was being watched now. i asked by who, only to see a group of priests across the street.. he sped away, me still in the seat and he started to unveil all he knew. Priests don’t grow up, there aliens… and the pope is a prince… now, whenever a certain area is to be breached they down what the call a faggit, or a fag as we call them to go hit on all the locals, being a fag he is not seen as a threat.. so he integrates himself into the surroundings… quetly making money here and there while he can.  At night time he is contacted in his basement and beams all his money to the collective, now.. when enough money is reached the collective buys what they call a ultimate money raising house… or church, with the tax free income from the brain washed populi that fills the collection baskets and the rich and famous using there own tax evading ways (set up by the aliens using another node that comes out of the spine)[acid is the way to get around this node... hence the alien populis created drug charges for the drug... this also explains why the 60's/early 70's where creative times... we thought for ourselves] now, jesus was really an alien named bob that used his powers for good… the aliens being evil nailed him to a piece of wood and raped him… many times (there all gay remember) now back to the preists of doom. They followed us down the local blvd. using penis shaped ships… they were cloaked but we say them on the acid boys saburben heat sensors… they cornered us in a ally, when all of a sudden he started to bump suvivor by destiny’s child… he then said the aliens hated women and bad music… and destiny’s child was the worst enemy sense there all secretly lesbain.  which goes into another conspiracy regarding Nuns… but that will come at another time… if your not into acid he also revieled that nude pictures of the golden girls in your wallet also helped cancel out the node. Tyler.

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They write about mind control lasers affecting your head, and why you should wear tinfoil, but tinfoil acts as a receiver, so you get MORE of the mind control rays (are just past X-ray range, near Gamma rays. Probably are Gamma rays, actually.)

Don’t tell my mother-in-law!  I finally convinced her to wear the aluminum foil helmet (made it myself, actually), and I don’t want to lose credibility with her…

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Well, I’ve been reading up on conspiracy theories. Why? probably because my tinfoil isn’t working. Well, here’s a summary of what’s actually going on: The Illuminati do have orbital mind control lasers. But they’re not the Illuminati, that’s just a front. They’re aliens. Government aliens. And they have written many of the conspiracy theories – yeas, especially "Secret Squirrel." They write about mind control lasers affecting your head, and why you should wear tinfoil, but tinfoil acts as a receiver, so you get MORE of the mind control rays (are just past X-ray range, near Gamma rays. Probably are Gamma rays, actually.) They write about alien implants, and even abduct people to spread these theories, always being sure to have them believe the implants are in their heads. Of course, people even tell them, even if they don’t believe them, that it is all in their heads. But is it? No, that’s the conspiracy. You see, they are putting the mind control chips in your ass. How does it work? well, everyone has nerves in their ass, which it attaches to. Very few people check their ass for scars, so few people notice. It’s not active all the time, just when they really need it, and they have to reabduct people every few months to change the batteries. What are the signs? Hemmorhoids. Hemmorhoids are a sure sign you are allergic to the implant, or have just had it replaced and are still sore from the implantation. Other signs include an overwhelming desire to scream "you are a fucking idiot" at random people, especially scientologists. Scientologists are not immune, but are usually controlled by a rival, even more evil, conspiracy. You see, these conspiracies have been at war for thousands of years. The Illuminati are against Scientology, and if they control your ass, will force you to hate John Travolta. But you hated John Travolta before? Yes, this is what they want you to think. Of course, their is a solution. Wrapping your head in tinfoil only exposes you to MORE mindcontrol rays (tinfoil works like an antenna). So, what you need to do instead, is wrap your ass in duct tape. Really. And don’t ever take it off at night, for that is what they want you to do. When you are sleeping is the most important time to wear the duct tape, as that is when they will try to abduct you. Also, to stop them, boobytrap your ass. Really. Moustraps on the outside of the duct tape work good, and can be ducttaped on themselves. Rattraps work even better, but have the drawback of occasionally trapping a rat on your ass, which is not a fun thing, especially if rats have a natural tendency to search your ass for food. Glue mousetraps should not be worn, as they tend to trap, well, the chair you sit on, which is rarely a good thing. Garlic, of course, can always be used in addition to the traps, just in case the Illuminati are allergic to it. Never use mines or explosives, just in case the Illuminati do trigger your ass. And remember, all is not what it seems, especially with tinfoil on your head and ducttape on your ass. — — theoneflasehaddock formerly of deja.com AIM – the1flasehaddock Suspected GLOBAL VILLAGE IDIOT. founder of the ‘Royal Discordian Opposition to the Cursed Number after Nine and Before Seven’ Known mad Imposter Fuckwit, you hatter bastards

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Well, I’ve been reading up on conspiracy theories. Why? probably because my tinfoil isn’t working. Well, here’s a summary of what’s actually going on: Read GURPS Illuminati. Then remember that the author, Nigel Findley, died shortly after the book was published. It has the most interesting version of the OMCL’s you can find.

I’ve been meaning to read that one for a while, I keep hearing how good it is, I just never get around to finding a copy. Instead, I sit at a computer and troll. Yay. — — theoneflasehaddock formerly of deja.com AIM – the1flasehaddock Suspected GLOBAL VILLAGE IDIOT. founder of the ‘Royal Discordian Opposition to the Cursed Number after Nine and Before Seven’ Known mad Imposter Fuckwit, you hatter bastards

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: Well, I’ve been reading up on conspiracy theories. Why? probably because my : tinfoil isn’t working. Well, here’s a summary of what’s actually going on: : : The Illuminati do have orbital mind control lasers. But they’re not the : Illuminati, that’s just a front. They’re aliens. Government aliens. And they : have written many of the conspiracy theories – yeas, especially "Secret : Squirrel." They write about mind control lasers affecting your head, and why : you should wear tinfoil, but tinfoil acts as a receiver, so you get MORE of : the mind control rays (are just past X-ray range, near Gamma rays. Probably : are Gamma rays, actually.) You need to use ARSCC-approved tinfoil hat to keep the mind control waves out of your head.  The ARSCC R&D Lab guarantees they are effective against even Scientology’s toadally gnarly Operating Thetans who can kill you with a thought. Perry Scott Co$ Escapee (ARSCC = alt.religion.scientology Central Committee.  It does not exist.  Really!  Now, see this red light?  … )

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Well, I’ve been reading up on conspiracy theories. Why? probably because my tinfoil isn’t working. Well, here’s a summary of what’s actually going on:

Read GURPS Illuminati. Then remember that the author, Nigel Findley, died shortly after the book was published. It has the most interesting version of the OMCL’s you can find. —   /   Marc Etienne Lachance, HOKuM, LMAA  /<  Episkopos without a cabal, /____ Non-Leader of Something or Another.

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Ever read "Foucault’s Pendulum"? I can’t look at another conspiracy theory the same, now. But, here’s mine:  there _is_ a conspiracy, only it’s not perpetrated by anyone in control of any government, or supergovernment, or occult organisation, or racial group or whatever.  It’s perpetrated by a wide variety of people with enough money not to worry about where their next meal is coming from, or about whether they’ll have a place to sleep, who are so caught up in trying to find some outside, all-encompassing explanation for why they got turned down at the bank for that loan for a jetski, or why Tammy didn’t win first at her school athletics day, or why Uncle Rob got cancer, that they lose sight of the places where they really _are_ being manipulated. Instead of spending some time thinking about (and getting mad about) the unequal distribution of resources (particularly food, but money can always by food, even in a famine) between the First and Third World, they get all anti about GE and how horrible it is that they’re forced to eat fly genes in those nice, fresh tomatoes.   Instead of getting active about overpopulation and/or too-low birth rates, they crow and complain when the government tries to steal _their_ money to build another road or add another few dollars to some superannuation scheme. Instead of seeing that eating unhealthily, not exercising, not going for regular check-ups and not following medical advice, they complain that it’s actually cellphones and suppressed anger and rays from spy satellites that makes them sick.     Instead of doing something constructive to lower the costs of medication to people in other countries (particularly for AIDS medication in Central Africa) to a level that is actually something lower than ten times their yearly income for a year-long course, they moan and whinge about how it’s actually vaccination that creates all the terrible sicknesses that we see in our everyday suburban, middle-class neighbourhood. I could (and will) go on about this, but you get the idea……. Love you heaps, Altair "We didn’t know they were going to drop a space station on us." -Trevor Canty, New Zealand fishing boat skipper, quoted in the New Zealand Herald, March 23, 2001. Coven of the Triple Moon: http://www.geocities.com.Paris/Cafe/8564/

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We then played a game of chase me with the bull. We then took turns distracting the bull while the other one retrieved pieces of our gear. After numerous trips and more chases, we had assembled everything we had brought and headed home.

Did it seem funny at the time? It sure is now. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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that is a great story……thanks. reminds me of the time we backpacked near the susquehanna river close to a railroad track. At about 2 am a train came up the valley  and I jumped up out of the sleeping bag. I was sure that our tent was right on the tracks. It wasnt funny then but I sure do laugh about it now. -Walter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ken’s trashing of the fishing in central Illinois and another thread that discussed setting up camp in the dark brought back a memory of a trip I made with a fishing buddy named John when I was in college. After classes one Friday in Spring, we took off for the weekend to fish a couple of feeder creeks.  The Smallmouths had moved into these small stream from the larger rivers to spawn earlier in the year. Some had stayed on to feed on the Chubs that also used the streams for breeding. These small creeks ranged from ten to twenty feet in width and wound their way through farmers’ fields of soybeans, cattle and corn.  Most farmers left stands of trees bordering the creeks. Being the only wooded stands amidst miles of farmers’ crops, these small pockets of nature drew the wildlife. Deer, raccoons, opossums, muskrats, rabbits, pheasants, ducks, hawks and a wide range of songbirds kept us company. In the Spring, the creeks generally held some color but they were clear enough to see several feet into the water and were easy, pleasant wading.  Some of them were spring creeks or at least, spring-like with their flows running through layers of fragmented limestone. They held some disproportionately large fish for such small bodies of water. During the day we caught Smallmouths, Chubs, Rockbass and other assorted panfish, Catfish and an occasional Carp on the tiny lures we tossed with our ultra light gear. But in the evening and early mornings, the bigger Smallmouths, up to four pounds, would smash the weird balsa wood poppers we concocted that we flung at them with our fly rods. John felt that the bigger fish were literate and usually painted "EAT ME" on the bottom of his hoping to lure the bigger fish. These bigger, surface feeding Smallmouths were a kick, especially in streams so tiny. We got to the area we wanted to fish and with our backpacks on, we worked our way upstream. I don’t remember the fishing on that day but it must have been pretty good because it was dark when we decided to set up camp.  We ate a dinner of fresh caught fish next to the stream but because of the darkness and the uneven terrain, we couldn’t find a level place to sleep. At the edge of the wooded area, we came to a barbed wire fence that we climb over to look for level ground. We finally found what we felt was a suitable place, unrolled our sleeping bags and called it a night. Numerous times during the night I was awaken by something. Most times, since I heard nothing, I ignored it and went back to sleep. Several times I sat up to look around, but without my contact lenses, I could see nothing in the moonless night. However, I heard some pounding sounds that trailed off from where we slept. After several such episodes, I was very spooked.  I finally decided to wake up John to see if he had heard anything, but since he slept like a dead man, he had heard nothing, called me an idiot, and told me to leave him alone and go back to sleep. After a very disruptive sleep, I awoke again at dawn and when I looked around, I saw a herd of cows standing in a circle around us. When I sat up, they ran off with pounding hooves. I yelled at John to wake up. We talked about our invasion of the cow’s territory and had a good laugh. We got dressed and when we went to pick up our sleeping bags, we found them encrusted with slimy, green cow shit.  John’s had just one small spot, but my blue bag looked like it had been painted green because of the acrobats I had performed during my fitful night. John gave me some more "shit" as we assembled our gear. Holding the sleeping bags in our arms, we spotted an unusually large "cow" standing alone, about fifty feet across the field who was staring at us with a lowered head. The "cow" then charged us. Dropping our gear, I went one way, John another. The bull chose me to chase but luckily I was close to the fence and got through before the bull reached me. The bull then went after John. John made it to the fence before the bull but as he was making his way through, his shirt got stuck on a barb and the bull ended up giving him a final, not too gentle, nudge through the fence. We then played a game of chase me with the bull. We then took turns distracting the bull while the other one retrieved pieces of our gear. After numerous trips and more chases, we had assembled everything we had brought and headed home. Willi

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Nice one Willi, that is how I prefer my bullshit ! TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de Ken’s trashing of the fishing in central Illinois and another thread that discussed setting up camp in the dark brought back a memory of a trip I made with a fishing buddy named John when I was in college.

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[nice story snipped] your story calls to mind a day when I was fishing a small trout river near where I live last season. Most of the river runs through heavily wooded country but on one section it runs through a couple of acres of pasture. It was on this section where the casting is easier that I was fishing from the shallows, intently absorbed on getting my Greenwells to drift in a convincing fashion past what appeared to be a reasonable sized brownie that was rising every couple of minutes.  I must have been there about 10 minutes or so when I heard a low snuffle type sound and then got that hairs rising on the back of the neck feeling that I was being watched.   I turned around and standing all around me in a tight semi-circle no more than twenty feet away were about 30 or more bullocks and heifers all staring intently at me like they were fascinated by what I was doing. how they had snuck up on me without my hearing and how I had managed to avoid hooking one on the backcast I don’t know. They weren’t doing me any harm, but I discovered its just as off- putting being closely and silently observed by cattle as it is by people.  Each time I waded a bit further upstream my bovine gallery moved along with me.  Ordering them to fuck off and waving my rod at them produced no more than a bit of foot shuffling and guilty looks on their part.  Eventually had to give it up and head for the woods, where the solitude more than compensated for the snagged bushes and trees. traprain

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They weren’t doing me any harm, but I discovered its just as off- putting being closely and silently observed by cattle as it is by people.  Each time I waded a bit further upstream my bovine gallery moved along with me.  Ordering them to fuck off and waving my rod at them produced no more than a bit of foot shuffling and guilty looks on their part.  Eventually had to give it up and head for the woods, where the solitude more than compensated for the snagged bushes and trees. traprain

Hey Trapain,  I get the curious cows   in the meadows  too.  They frightened me as a 9 year old,  but since then I learned that they are just scared/inquisitive of you.    Sounds like you and I fish similar rivers too; wooded sections and then relatively open meadow.  My biggest foe on the river is the pesky flies that persist the open areas in July and August. The little sods fly in your face when you are trying hard to concentrate, etc.  When moving into the wooded sections,  I find a blissful escape,  as the flies don’t seem to plague these areas.

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Ken’s trashing of the fishing in central Illinois and another thread that discussed setting up camp in the dark brought back a memory of a trip I made with a fishing buddy named John when I was in college. After classes one Friday in Spring, we took off for the weekend to fish a couple of feeder creeks.  The Smallmouths had moved into these small stream from the larger rivers to spawn earlier in the year. Some had stayed on to feed on the Chubs that also used the streams for breeding. These small creeks ranged from ten to twenty feet in width and wound their way through farmers’ fields of soybeans, cattle and corn.  Most farmers left stands of trees bordering the creeks. Being the only wooded stands amidst miles of farmers’ crops, these small pockets of nature drew the wildlife. Deer, raccoons, opossums, muskrats, rabbits, pheasants, ducks, hawks and a wide range of songbirds kept us company. In the Spring, the creeks generally held some color but they were clear enough to see several feet into the water and were easy, pleasant wading.  Some of them were spring creeks or at least, spring-like with their flows running through layers of fragmented limestone. They held some disproportionately large fish for such small bodies of water. During the day we caught Smallmouths, Chubs, Rockbass and other assorted panfish, Catfish and an occasional Carp on the tiny lures we tossed with our ultra light gear. But in the evening and early mornings, the bigger Smallmouths, up to four pounds, would smash the weird balsa wood poppers we concocted that we flung at them with our fly rods. John felt that the bigger fish were literate and usually painted "EAT ME" on the bottom of his hoping to lure the bigger fish. These bigger, surface feeding Smallmouths were a kick, especially in streams so tiny. We got to the area we wanted to fish and with our backpacks on, we worked our way upstream. I don’t remember the fishing on that day but it must have been pretty good because it was dark when we decided to set up camp.  We ate a dinner of fresh caught fish next to the stream but because of the darkness and the uneven terrain, we couldn’t find a level place to sleep. At the edge of the wooded area, we came to a barbed wire fence that we climb over to look for level ground. We finally found what we felt was a suitable place, unrolled our sleeping bags and called it a night. Numerous times during the night I was awaken by something. Most times, since I heard nothing, I ignored it and went back to sleep. Several times I sat up to look around, but without my contact lenses, I could see nothing in the moonless night. However, I heard some pounding sounds that trailed off from where we slept. After several such episodes, I was very spooked.  I finally decided to wake up John to see if he had heard anything, but since he slept like a dead man, he had heard nothing, called me an idiot, and told me to leave him alone and go back to sleep. After a very disruptive sleep, I awoke again at dawn and when I looked around, I saw a herd of cows standing in a circle around us. When I sat up, they ran off with pounding hooves. I yelled at John to wake up. We talked about our invasion of the cow’s territory and had a good laugh. We got dressed and when we went to pick up our sleeping bags, we found them encrusted with slimy, green cow shit.  John’s had just one small spot, but my blue bag looked like it had been painted green because of the acrobats I had performed during my fitful night. John gave me some more "shit" as we assembled our gear. Holding the sleeping bags in our arms, we spotted an unusually large "cow" standing alone, about fifty feet across the field who was staring at us with a lowered head. The "cow" then charged us. Dropping our gear, I went one way, John another. The bull chose me to chase but luckily I was close to the fence and got through before the bull reached me. The bull then went after John. John made it to the fence before the bull but as he was making his way through, his shirt got stuck on a barb and the bull ended up giving him a final, not too gentle, nudge through the fence. We then played a game of chase me with the bull. We then took turns distracting the bull while the other one retrieved pieces of our gear. After numerous trips and more chases, we had assembled everything we had brought and headed home.   Willi

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Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..

You may be right.  I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray.  A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power.  I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir

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I have a 590SP.  I use a 6wt. Orvis Wonderline and it works great! Good luck, Forrest — Forrest http://www.FlyFishingREVIEW.com FlyFishingREVIEW.com Before you buy.

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I am interested in your use of a DT on your SP590.  Sounds like the two lines (the DT5 and tyhe WF7) cover a pretty wide range of situations with the same rod.  Like fishing a bigassed river one day, and a little meadow crawler the next., with the same rod. Is that what you are after? Sage touts the "reserve power" bit on the SPs. Does the overlining kick it in? Ill have to try it. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt….. You may be right.  I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray.  A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power.  I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir

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Most good quality rods will handle several line sizes.  The size recommended by the maker is usually that size that most people would find works well under most conditions…and allows the rod to properly load at normal fishing distances…and for the designated action of the rod to come into play.  Most flyfishers have their own casting styles and fishing situations that are unique to them….and, as a consequence, tend to prefer certain actions on the rods with which they fish.  So…it’s not unusual to find flyfishers that will find a different weight line working better for them on a selected rod when that line weight is different than the recommended weight.  And, it is not unusual to find that fisherman disagree on the best line weight for a particular rod.  Also factoring in the type of fishing and the distance of your normal casts, affects what line is "best" for a particular rod.  Many flyfishers, myself included, tend to use several line weights on a rod….depending on the fishing situation at hand.  However, on the Sage LL rods, I pretty much stick to the manufacturers suggested weights as they work best for me…and I don’t like a much slower rod than the LL Sage…so I don’t overline it.  Now…the SPplus Sage is another matter…and I have overlined it by one and even two sizes at times….ditto on the RPLplus.  I recall a disagreement that I once had with the Harry Wilson (from Scott Rods a number of years ago) regarding a ten weight Scott that I bought.  I could put a thirteen weight on that rod and still feel that it was underlined.  Harry and I argued about that rod for a long time. I ended up returning it.  In retrospect, my casting style and the action that I wanted to bring out in the rod were vastly different than Harry’s. So…we were both right in the sense that we knew what worked best for us as individuals. Barry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt….. You may be right.  I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray.  A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power.  I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir

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Also, while learning to fly cast or for those who never learn, many will overline their rods a few sizes. There are some rods that are so stiff and powerful that they must be overlined for everyone.

If this is intended to say that experienced casters don’t like to go up a line weight, then I’ll disagree. I’ve read that Joan Wulff says she routinely goes up a line weight. I fish a Winston IM6 4 weight with 6 weight line in situations where I have to make longer roll casts or cope with some wind. It handles the heavier line with aplomb. Yes, aplomb. I’ve never been in a situation where it couldn’t handle the amount of line I was trying to cast (which is probably a max of 60 feet). Rick

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Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..

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Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..

Hi All, I have seen this situation for many years. We all have a different casting strokes or styles. Some of us are high speed, tip casters and some, like this gentleman, have a slow stroke where he loads the rod way down into the butt. This is nothing new. I use a weight forward 5 floating line on that rod and it works fine for me. some of my fishing partners would use a #6 line. Not too many would use a #7 line.  I think a #7 line would start to over load that rod at 50+ feet. Also, while learning to fly cast or for those who never learn, many will overline their rods a few sizes. There are some rods that are so stiff and powerful that they must be overlined for everyone. PS: I might be wrong, but I think that the largest XPS is a #6????? Maybe it is a new GPX or maybe I am wrong?

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For the traditionalists among you. As I was walking all alane, a heard twa anglers a makkin mane, the ane unto the ither did say oh, whaur shal we gang and fish the day oh, whaur shall we gang and fish the day, A dinna care whaur we seek delight, wi ma Black Raven as black as night, yon fush may rise so sly it may oh, this night a

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MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY 1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

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bs1776 YELLS: <<MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS). Why are you YELLING?  Where does this Pokras get his info? Loons populations here in New England are anything but endangered.  Besides, very little of the lead found in waters comes from fly fishermen. Dave LaCourse

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Lead has been banned in England for angling purposes for quite some time, as it was also suggested that many water birds, especially swans, were dying of lead poisoning due to ingestion.  Whether or not this is true, ( not many deaths were even proved to be attributable to lead poisoning), most of the lead in the waters concerned was coming from shotgun loads. I suspect this will be mostly the reason elsewhere too. BY THE WAY, THERE IS NO NEED TO SHOUT, I AM ONLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ATLANTIC ! TL MC

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(BS1776) writes: MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY 1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

May be we should all through our sinkers in the water to get rid of more of them.

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MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY 1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

Some loons should be endagered. Capt. Gary S. Colecchio West Palm Beach "Lie ? Me ? Never!  No, no, no, the truth is far too much fun !" – Captain Hook

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Powlesland’s been licking the paint again, eh ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Please Take Your Penis Off Of The Shift Key. — Nicholas J. Slodki http://trampled.net/Nikolai0/

:MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE :THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY :1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- :HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

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Some loons should be endagered. Capt. Gary S. Colecchio West Palm Beach

Would you perhaps be speaking of those AR loons?  When does their season open again?  I have to remember to buy about 20 tags. WF

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season open again?

Perhaps there is no open season because they should not be protected.Uh…is there a bounty on them? Big Dale

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HUH SAY WHAT HUH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – bs1776 YELLS: <<MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS). Why are you YELLING?  Where does this Pokras get his info? Loons populations here in New England are anything but endangered.  Besides, very little of the lead found in waters comes from fly fishermen. Dave LaCourse

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MARK POKRAS, DIRECTOR OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY VETERINARY WILDLIFE CLINIC SAYS MORE THAN HALF OF ALL LOON DEATHS ARE CAUSED BY INGESTING LEAD FISHING GEAR (SINKERS, JIGS).  NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS BANNED ALL LEAD SINKERS, JIGS AFTER JANUARY 1, 2000. WHERE IS NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, PENNSYLVANIA FISH & GAME COUNCILS- HIDING FROM THIS DAMAGE?

George, is this a spam for Xink?

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I recently relocated to So California (Pasadena).  Can you suggest any good fly fishing holes? Thanks in advance.

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Give the Pasadena Casting Club a call.  I know that they fish the San Gabriel River (although it has been a bit "blown" out due to the heavy rains this winter).  They should be able to help you find some spots. If you like to float tube, try Big Bear Lake — about a 2 hour drive from Pasadena, and the fishing should be great when things start to warm up.  It is a beautiful mountain lake and is worth the trip.  Tom

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I recently relocated to So California (Pasadena).  Can you suggest any good fly fishing holes? Thanks in advance.

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East and West Forks of the San Gabriel. Piru Creek below Pyramid Lake In the San Bernadino Mountains         Bear Creek         Deep Creek San Gabe and Piru have a rep for some low-life activity that’ll mess with your vehicle, but I think it’s ok during weekdays. Fish Deep Creek at the upper end (not the Mojave side).  The latter has a real bad rep for vandalism (though this could be a rumor started by some clever fly fishers). Now’s the time for all of these creeks.  I like Bear the best. Never fished the San Gabriel, but it’s pretty close to you, so you might try it.  If you go to Piru, make sure you wear insect repellent.  Until I fished there, I had never experienced black flies.  Cute little gnat sized flies that you are not aware are biting you…until the next day when all the welts start to form. —                                                       -dnc- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently relocated to So California (Pasadena).  Can you suggest any good fly fishing holes? Thanks in advance.

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Hello all!         I was hoping to try out Piru Creek sometime in September. I have never fished it and have no idea what it is like, but as it is only a few hours from my home, I thought it would be neat to try. Has anybody out there fished this creek? If so, can you give me some tips on what parts of the creek are most productive and what patterns and sizes to use? Any help would be greatly appreciated.                                 Thanks,                                         Jeff

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Jeff: I had a similar question a few months back when visiting LA, and got good this post.  But try him first.  He was enthusiastic about the small wild rainbows in Piru Creek.  Only trouble was, Don forgot to warn me about the safety aspects — the creek is only an hour from LA, and I never got to it — got chased off by a gang with a shotgun.  All part of the great adventure of flyfishing… Proceed with caution, ask Don’s advice, and good luck. Regards, George

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Jeff: I had a similar question a few months back when visiting LA, and got good this post.  But try him first.  He was enthusiastic about the small wild rainbows in Piru Creek.  Only trouble was, Don forgot to warn me about the safety aspects — the creek is only an hour from LA, and I never got to it — got chased off by a gang with a shotgun.  All part of the great adventure of flyfishing… Proceed with caution, ask Don’s advice, and good luck. Regards, George

I have found that it is better to go to the Mammoth area and take a whole weekend or go to the Kern above the lake.  I have fished a lot on Piru–it is not bad EARLY in the morning (reprodicible hatch–take 18-22 gnat imitations and small Adams along with small gold rib hares ears) abd youll miss the gill net/picnic/trash producing crowd and see  mainly  anglers (fly fishers at that).  There are usually  fish allover the place (small 8-12 max) but I have had the most luck downstream about 2-4 miles or so as well as upstream in the "catch-and-release"  (also known as the "gill-net-as-much-as-you-can-and-bait-dunk-for-the-rest" section to some of the anglers). If you do go up there plan on leaving early (ie 10 or 11 AM), bring lots of water and avoid the heat. Good Luck and tight lines– Aaron

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I fish Piru all the time.  The key to survival is the sacrifice car and 2lbs kevlar fishing vest.  I was there last in june and the water flow was down to a trickle.  Small fish only.  Does anyone know if there is a minimum flow for this tailwater?

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writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The C&K-crew has poached the C&R section again so it’s without many fish again. Contrary to what you must be thinking, I am sympathetic with the plight of this creek and the anglers who care about it.  It seems that the fundamental problem has been simply one of a resource that can not handle the incredible urban demand for it.  Or, maybe it has handled it beautifully.  If it is a put and take, C&K fishery completely, then I would call it a ’sacrificial watershed’.   I call Lake Powell a ’sacrificial watershed’.  That is, think of just how intenseley it is used.  Now consider, all of these motorhead boaters would be *somewhere else* (if not for Powell), would they not ?   All of these C&K gang members on Piru would be somewhere else, would they not ? So, make it C&R…pure C&R, protect those little stockers and what have you got ? Well, a crowd, still, albeit a more civilized crowd ? And what about those displaced C&K Gang members ?  Where would they be ?  Somewhere else, to be sure, maybe they’d be poaching at pyramid ?  Education ? Eradication ? Considered…but no…people as a whole are just too fucked up.  Get enough of them together and you have problems irregardless of regulations. How many gang bangers read the 1996 California Fishing Regs ? The answer lies in neither C&R nor C&K regulations, but in the acceptance of the fact that there are just too many damned people. Now, what are we going to do about that ?   TimW C&K Gangbanger

Trouble is Tim that this stream’s C&R section has a strain of native rainbows that has not been diluted with stocker blood. They are above a waterfall and thus isolated from the stocker filled section below. I agree that the fishing pressure is to much, but only because the gill net crews sweep the stream when ever the fish grow to larger than 8". The state’s solution of C&R on the upper section means that on most days only one or two people are fishing this section. But it is only 1.5 miles long. So when 300 fish are removed with gills nets, years worth of restoration efforts are destroyed. Solution to me is to remove some "nuts" to reduce gene-pool dilution. Hanging a few poachers from nearby trees and not removing them until their bones fall away also might work. If I could, I would have their pubic hair turned transformed into treblehooks. Or if one isn’t bloodthirsty, how about 40 hours a week for 6 months working on restoration work on the very stream they "f" up. Don B. PS – Yes, there’s too many people, have you called Dr. Death? Or are you looking for volunteers? Not me, I learn not to volunteer in the military.

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The C&K-crew has poached the C&R section again so it’s without many fish again.

Contrary to what you must be thinking, I am sympathetic with the plight of this creek and the anglers who care about it.  It seems that the fundamental problem has been simply one of a resource that can not handle the incredible urban demand for it.  Or, maybe it has handled it beautifully.  If it is a put and take, C&K fishery completely, then I would call it a ’sacrificial watershed’.   I call Lake Powell a ’sacrificial watershed’.  That is, think of just how intenseley it is used.  Now consider, all of these motorhead boaters would be *somewhere else* (if not for Powell), would they not ?   All of these C&K gang members on Piru would be somewhere else, would they not ? So, make it C&R…pure C&R, protect those little stockers and what have you got ? Well, a crowd, still, albeit a more civilized crowd ? And what about those displaced C&K Gang members ?  Where would they be ?  Somewhere else, to be sure, maybe they’d be poaching at pyramid ?  Education ? Eradication ? Considered…but no…people as a whole are just too fucked up.  Get enough of them together and you have problems irregardless of regulations. How many gang bangers read the 1996 California Fishing Regs ? The answer lies in neither C&R nor C&K regulations, but in the acceptance of the fact that there are just too many damned people. Now, what are we going to do about that ?   TimW C&K Gangbanger

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writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jeff: I had a similar question a few months back when visiting LA, and got good this post.  But try him first.  He was enthusiastic about the small wild rainbows in Piru Creek.  Only trouble was, Don forgot to warn me about the safety aspects — the creek is only an hour from LA, and I never got to it — got chased off by a gang with a shotgun.  All part of the great adventure of flyfishing… Proceed with caution, ask Don’s advice, and good luck. Regards, George

George, The C&K-crew has poached the C&R section again so it’s without many fish again. Also didn’t I tell you to wear your Kevlar Gore-Tex waders? The bullet-proof yet breathable models. <g Also, drive a sacrifical car if LA’s boy scouts are around and about. But do try to fish with a friend. Don’t challenge a bait fishermen in the single barbless hook C&R section unless you’re packing "iron". Just move on. Normally not a problem during peak fishing weekend times. Biggest problem today (9-4-96) is the Castaic fire has burned 25,00 acres near this stream. Since the fire was burning all weekend and I-5 was closed several times, I haven’t got up to see if the creek is still there.  So fishing might be for pre-cooked fish or for small fish only (fish fry). <g The Sierra Pacific Fly Fishers (SPFF) should be commended for trying to keep the stream up but without money from the state for a game warden the poaching will be an on-going problem. If anyone that still  goes there, try some Royal Wulff’s or other attractor flies. Bead-head’s also work well. It’s a shame because this could be a nice little trout stream. Don Burns

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I’m looking for a manual showing all the flys and a picture or a drawing.

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: I’m looking for a manual showing all the flys and a picture or a drawing. ALL the flies?  No way! Impossible!  Too many thousands of patterns. There are some good books out there that act as listings of flies. You may want to try the library and see what they have. You will quickly see what a variety there actually is. Jon Porter

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: I’m looking for a manual showing all the flys and a picture or a drawing. ALL the flies?  No way! Impossible!  Too many thousands of patterns. There are some good books out there that act as listings of flies. You may want to try the library and see what they have. You will quickly see what a variety there actually is. Jon Porter

There are two books that do a fairly good job with photos and recipes for a lot of flies, not even close to all.  They are called Best 1000 Flies by Randall Scott (something) and Umpqua Fly Patterns,or something to that nature.  They are both great books with color photos and specific receipes.  Any fly enthusuist would love either one.You local fly shop should have it, or could order it.  If you run into any problems let  me know.  My store has them available. Take care, Clark Shafer Lost River Outfitters

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I’m looking for a manual showing all the flys and a picture or a drawing.

Hi Your request is difficult but two book that may help are Fish Flies volumes I & II by Terry Hellekson. Those two books come close to covering most of flies. You can get them at a local book store or fly shop OR from Frank Amato Publications. 503-653-8108 Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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I am headed down to Bend, Oregon this weekend and wanted to do a little fly fishing.  I know only portions of the Deschutes are open at this time (Bend north to Lake Billy Chinook) and was wondering if anyone had any advice on where to go and what to use.  Email me directly…and thanks in advance. Kevin Curry Linfield College

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I am headed down to Bend, Oregon this weekend and wanted to do a little fly fishing.  I know only portions of the Deschutes are open at this time (Bend north to Lake Billy Chinook) and was wondering if anyone had any advice on where to go and what to use.  Email me directly…and thanks in advance. Kevin Curry Linfield College

Kevin and other Deschutes flyfishers: Check out the Online Gillie section at Flyfishers Online.  A long-time guide on the river has begun writing monthly articles as well as contributing condition reports for the river. Online Gillie is at: http://www.flyfishers.com:80/flyfishers-online/flyfishers-gillie.html Condition Reports are at: http://www.flyfishers.com:80/flyfishers-online/flyfishers-reports.html Cy Happy, a guide and partner at Ray’s River Dories (also at Flyfishers Online) floated Trout Creek to Maupin a week ago and reported that the high water flow had changed the bank topography quite considerably. For instance, at the favorite island lunch stop just south of North Junction he reported that the water had swept a good number of the bankside trees away, leaving the channel quite navigable; a change, indeed, from the past few years. Hope this helps. Best, Peter Yoakum, Editor Flyfishers Online

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