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I’d like to sell some fly fishing books and also buy used equipment is someone has something I’m looking for. Is there a fly fishing marketplace newsgroup or do people post here? I don’t want to get involved with EBay, just the real Fly fishers in groups like this. Thanks much.

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Try the Auction at the virtual fly shop. http://www.flyshop.com/Marketplace/ Paul ( no connection with VFS yadah yadah yadah)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d like to sell some fly fishing books and also buy used equipment is someone has something I’m looking for. Is there a fly fishing marketplace newsgroup or do people post here? I don’t want to get involved with EBay, just the real Fly fishers in groups like this. Thanks much.

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I’d like to sell some fly fishing books and also buy used equipment is someone has something I’m looking for. Is there a fly fishing marketplace newsgroup or do people post here? I don’t want to get involved with EBay, just the real Fly fishers in groups like this.

You’re clearly running a commercial enterprise. Thus, what you’re looking for is called a "web site". /daytripper

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I’m not in business. Plenty of people buy and sell old stuff on marketplace newsgroups. I didn’t post it here; just asked if there was a newsgroup( there are many in other ng areas). Your assumption is wrong. It is not my business. I was wondering if anyone wanted to buy, sell or trade items.  Man, some people are just angry all the time. If you know a good website for this, why not just let me know specifically what site is good. Commercial enterprise? Not be a long shot.

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Commercial enterprise? Not be a long shot.

Everything you sell is at cost? — Charlie…

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As log as he’s not trying to sell crooked bamboo rods with poorly fitted ferrules, gloppy (sp?) epoxy and glue lines as the finest ever built he should be allowed ONE post. to sell stuff. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Commercial enterprise? Not be a long shot. Everything you sell is at cost? — Charlie…

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As log as he’s not trying to sell crooked bamboo rods with poorly fitted ferrules, gloppy (sp?) epoxy and glue lines as the finest ever built he should be allowed ONE post. to sell stuff. Paul

Er, guys, maybe I misread, but I get the impression the guy just wants to buy and sell a few used items to feed a personal collection.  Why can’t he post such items and his desire to buy equipment? Fjx:  If this is what you mean, I don’t imaging anyone would (or should) have a problem. HTH? R

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As log as he’s not trying to sell crooked bamboo rods with poorly fitted ferrules, gloppy (sp?) epoxy and glue lines as the finest ever built he should be allowed ONE post. to sell stuff.

I was just curious how he defined ‘commercial’, sounded like it was a bad word. — Charlie…

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R Dean hasit right. I was just looking to add oand remove from my personal stuff. For example, I was able to buy a spool for a reel no longer made from someone on this ng some time back. Nothing more than that. I’ve also found some great books in the past. Hope no one was offended by the question. We have a common interest here and it’s nice to share ideas etc.

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rec.outdoors.marketplace Try this it may help? Eric Cassel www.anglersofamerica.com

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Ernie, I assume you are in eastern PA? I am new to flyfishing, but do know where you can do some awesome striper fishing if you aren’t too far east. Raystown Lake has great landlocked striper fishing. 20-30 pounders are the norm and 40+ pounders are caught every year. They do have a website, not sure of the url. Try a search. good luck, Matt

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Hey Guys, Been Fishing the Salt with a fly rod and other tackle for a while now.  Always looking for people to go with.  Would be interested in hearing from any body close. I am in NW Montgomery county.  Any body interested shoot me an email. Ernie, I would suggest a 10WT for most of your fishing, and an intermediate shooting setup for most of your fishing in the surf.  Seems like you are doing battle with the wind most of the time.  Faster sinking lines are great from jetties and intlets.  Get a stipping basket.  Fishing the surf with a fly rod can be very productive for several species in NJ and north coast waters and sometimes it will out produce conventional and spin tackle. Experiment… Damian Damian NuWave Tackle Innovative products designed by fishermen for fishermen Fly Tying equip and matls., Tackle and more. http://www.nuwavetackle.com/

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Thanks Paul              Ernie

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Hello Ernie, Like any "species specific" fishing, you first have to know your quarry and then you must understand your quarry’s quarry.  Check out http://www.fishbelly.com , it’s a new web site that is loaded with great information on fishing for all species of fish.  However, to meet your needs, check out the article by Lefty Kreh on fishing his deceiver fly http://www.fishbelly.com/articles/lk110399.htm Bookmark the site because there’s a new article coming soon by Lou Tabory that deals with how to present your flies for best results.  We will also be highlighting the many different prey items that all species of game fish love.  We will include underwater images that will help you "match the hatch" so to speak, in salt water. I hope this info helps.  If you have any other questions, hop on the fishbelly message forum and I’ll be happy to try and answer them. Finally, if you’re looking for "in depth" — no pun intended — information on stripers, check out the selection of videos at Fishbelly.  As an underwater videographer who has spent over 40 years in the striper’s domain, I can promise you any of the Laptew Production videos will make you a better striper angler. Seize the day!  Go fishing. Mike

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After many years of trouting I would like to give stripers a try. I live in Penna, and can easily get to NJ or the Cape , beforo I start calling guides, some basic info      (when, where, with who) would be appreciated                                                  Thanks,                                                            Ernie

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After many years of trouting I would like to give stripers a try. I live in Penna, and can easily get to NJ or the Cape , beforo I start calling guides, some basic info      (when, where, with who) would be appreciated                                                  Thanks,                                                            Ernie

For equipment you’ll want a 9wt, a sinking line and a reel that’s doesn’t say freshwater only. You can use a 7wt but if it’s really windy or you catch a really big fish you’ll appreciate the 9wt. A few clouser and a a few decievers are all you’ll need for flies. The early season in MA chartruse is a good color. I can’t help with NJ. Check with a local shop for what colors are good. If you buy the flies at the same shop you’re likely to get better advice. Paul

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That says it all George, that says it all…… well done. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – _____  In the world of fly fishing, which R.O.F.F. really is basically about, the subjects involved in this world that really belongs to trout, waver like some kind of stellar magnetic field.  First you feel it and then you don’t.  Some plunge into black holes or abyss’s never seeming to be able to return to the art form again. Not that long ago, back in January the journey began.  With nothing but the promises offered by roff and the dares, I stood up to be counted . . . and I performed the dance of a monkey on strings.  I listened, I pouted, I reprimanded, I took and applied all sorts of advice that to this day are in the signature of each BastardBamboo.   I had stated that Bamboo Fly Rods were much too expensive for the common layman to afford.  I said that there were more people without a bamboo fly rod then those who had them and that, in my opinion ~ this was wrong.  I said, I could make a bamboo fly rod for only $150 (not including tax we overlooked at the time) that the majority COULD afford.  $300 plus excise was the goal.  That goal is alive and active. The promise has been kept. There are still the expensive fly rods ranging from well over this low, lowest commercial price to a range that touches $7,000.  Charges of between $1,000 to $3,000 is still unmoved.  This is good and these fly rods are certainly worth it to those that can afford them. No matter what, there are those who are watching the Bastard project in abstract interest.  When they ‘think’ there is money involved, they will enter this challenge thinking they can do it better then I.  The result, I promise, because of my willingness to try will be a drastic down spiral in Bamboo Retail Prices. Now, we all realize there are many that would love to see me fail.  So? I’ve failed before.  I have lots of experience in that arena.  Win or lose, this is going to end up being a win/win result for all of fly fishing in the entire world.  Wait and see.  The day may very well arrive when some of you will be fishing a "Sapphire Fly Rod,"  or a "Sweet Thing Fly Rod" or a "Presidential Fly Rod," but you will all be wrong.  No matter what, every one of them will really be "A Bastard Fly Rod."  I was there first.  I will always be there. Mr. G.

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A short note on the fine art of sarcasm: dribble:   To move a basketball down the floor by bouncing it repeatedly on that floor while walking or running.  May also be done while standing in one spot. dribble:  To allow saliva to escape from one’s pie hole while dribbling a basketball….or not. The nonsense which you accuse George of disseminating and which is also exemplified by endless repetition of SPAM SPAM SPAM…….is DRIVEL!!

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_____  In the world of fly fishing, which R.O.F.F. really is basically about, the subjects involved in this world that really belongs to trout, waver like some kind of stellar magnetic field.  First you feel it and then you don’t.  Some plunge into black holes or abyss’s never seeming to be able to return to the art form again. Not that long ago, back in January the journey began.  With nothing but the promises offered by roff and the dares, I stood up to be counted . . . and I performed the dance of a monkey on strings.  I listened, I pouted, I reprimanded, I took and applied all sorts of advice that to this day are in the signature of each BastardBamboo.   I had stated that Bamboo Fly Rods were much too expensive for the common layman to afford.  I said that there were more people without a bamboo fly rod then those who had them and that, in my opinion ~ this was wrong.  I said, I could make a bamboo fly rod for only $150 (not including tax we overlooked at the time) that the majority COULD afford.  $300 plus excise was the goal.  That goal is alive and active. The promise has been kept. There are still the expensive fly rods ranging from well over this low, lowest commercial price to a range that touches $7,000.  Charges of between $1,000 to $3,000 is still unmoved.  This is good and these fly rods are certainly worth it to those that can afford them. No matter what, there are those who are watching the Bastard project in abstract interest.  When they ‘think’ there is money involved, they will enter this challenge thinking they can do it better then I.  The result, I promise, because of my willingness to try will be a drastic down spiral in Bamboo Retail Prices. Now, we all realize there are many that would love to see me fail.  So? I’ve failed before.  I have lots of experience in that arena.  Win or lose, this is going to end up being a win/win result for all of fly fishing in the entire world.  Wait and see.  The day may very well arrive when some of you will be fishing a "Sapphire Fly Rod,"  or a "Sweet Thing Fly Rod" or a "Presidential Fly Rod," but you will all be wrong.  No matter what, every one of them will really be "A Bastard Fly Rod."  I was there first.  I will always be there. Mr. G.

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Jeff has the right idea.

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BTW, I used nothing but Albolene at the Fall Ball.   In the words of George G, "It works!" Louie

Just out of curiousity, how well did it work? Better? Didn’t notice any difference?  Can you say without any bias that it works on par or better than what I use already? There are several products out there that work, some better than others.  I am always open to one of the "better than others."  Until I find a better, I will continue using what I am currently using. Warren Remember, men will come and men will go, but the streams and mountains go on forever. -Bob Carmichael

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Warren F: <<BTW, I used nothing but Albolene at the Fall Ball.   In the words of George G, "It works!" Louie

Just out of curiousity, how well did it work? Better? Didn’t notice any difference?  Can you say without any bias that it works on par or better than what I use already? I am not a great proponent of floatants.  I like drying crystals and was just recently introduced to amadou, but on occasion I do use a floatant.  I have had a jar of Albolene for a couple of years and have used it off and on.  It works as well as *anything* I have tried.  Use very little of it (sound familiar?) and it does the job well. Louie

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There are several products out there that work, some better than others.  I am always open to one of the "better than others."  Until I find a better, I will continue using what I am currently using.

Warren; Over the last fifteen years I have fished with many people.  When I lived in central Wisconsin some years ago there were 15 or 20 I fished with on a more or less regular basis.  Among us we tried every brand of floatant that any of us ever heard of and a great many home made concoctions as well.  Eventually everyone I knew used Albolene exclusively.  There were and are a number of others that seems to work about as well but none were found to be better and nothing except a few of the bathroom chemistry projects could touch Albolene for price. One other factor to consider:  Albolene is marketed as a skin cream, makeup remover, etc.  In our litigious society I suspect the manufacturers have taken some care to formulate a product that’s relatively safe to handle.  No telling what’s in some of the commercial floatants out there. Keep your bug on the meniscus!

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i saw a show on the knowledge network on Wednesday july 22 7pm.  the guy was fishing on a lake in the merrit Plateau.  Looking for the name of the lake.

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i saw a show on the knowledge network on Wednesday july 22 7pm.  the guy was fishing on a lake in the merrit Plateau.  Looking for the name of the lake.

if it was the show where the guest was Brian Chan  the lake is Minnie Lake on the Douglas Lake Ranch – costs you $75 to $125 a day to fish. BTW I just came back from 4 days on Salmon Lake on the ranch and had a good time with rainbows to about 3lbs – most around 1.5 to 2 lbs on yellow Cary’s. Salmon is a good base camp to fish the other lakes on the ranch. you can camp or rent a cabin there and the fishing on Salmon is open to the public excepting a small boat launch fee. Ralph H

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The Lake was Lumbaum Lake just a bit northeast (mostly east) of Merrit.  We held our regional Scout camp there last May (just after the turnover).  It’s a great spot but can be a real party lake with several forestry camp sites located all around the lake. The show wasn’t kidding about the large trout and how hard it was to get them.  When we were there a couple of days before the camp, the largest we saw (and the largest caught, by a first time fisherman no less <G) was about 14". Kent – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Not sure of the lake probably Minnie but it was on the Douglas Lake Ranch: http://douglaslake.com/ Tell Carlos & Spencer we said Hi!! — <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ i saw a show on the knowledge network on Wednesday july 22 7pm.  the guy was fishing on a lake in the merrit Plateau.  Looking for the name of the lake.

Signature!?! Damn it Jim, I’m a lurker not a liternary agent!!

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The Lake was Lumbaum Lake just a bit northeast (mostly east) of Merrit.  

I believe the spelling is Lundbom pronounced Lund-bum. The show wasn’t kidding about the large trout and how hard it was to get them.

I’ve never fished Lundbom and decided not too after a few people said it was like steelheading –  if you hook a fish feel good about it. BTW Lundbom has a rich history – see Steve Raymond’s original edition of "Kamloops". The lake had excellent fishing for trout to 8lbs or so plus an excellent sedge hatch. However it was discovered and fishing quality declined rapidly. A proposal to make it an Artificial Fly Only lake was opposed by local gear fishermen. Instead the lake was managed as a quality fishery. Stocking has been greatly reduced and the lake is now known for holding small numbers of large trout where once it held good numbers of cooperative trout with plenty of fish in the 2 to 4 pound range and a few bigger ones, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kent Not sure of the lake probably Minnie but it was on the Douglas Lake Ranch: http://douglaslake.com/ Tell Carlos & Spencer we said Hi!! — <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ i saw a show on the knowledge network on Wednesday july 22 7pm.  the guy was fishing on a lake in the merrit Plateau.  Looking for the name of the lake. Signature!?! Damn it Jim, I’m a lurker not a liternary agent!!

Ralph H note spurious hyperbole, insults and ‘personal attacks’ made by the author are meant to honour "the Soul of Cicero" and are not intended as personal slights. Please don’t take offense as none is intended. remove "(take_this_out)" for email reply.

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I’m looking for F/F classifieds. Used Rods, reels, etc. rgill

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I’m looking for F/F classifieds. Used Rods, reels, etc. rgill

http://flyfish.com/cgibin/bin/ldisplay.cgi?forsale http://flyfishing.com/classifieds/ads/sale.shtml http://www.flyshop.com/Classified/index.html http://www.gorp.com/cl_angle/equipcat.htm http://www.flyanglersonline.com/exchangeboard/ http://cayman.ebay.com/aw/listings/endtoday/category384/index.html Good Luck! -Robert

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Selling my tools and materials. Mostly trout stuff, but some salt as well. Very little use, cannot tell Metz necks or Hoffman saddle from new. Some obscure stuff like Jackdaw scalp (for small wets) and Starling skin. Selling for less than half of new cost. Also have two Sage rods FS. Email for complete list and prices.

Well, what are you waiting for, season is ending at states, but here in chile its just the beginning, so mail-me your price list! Simon Zlachevsky http://www.scc.puc.cl/~szlachev/ Trata a los demas como te gustaria que te trataran a ti!                 /)                       O      /(                       |     /                       |   /                      /                 /             **                         ‘ () ‘                    ” /”                               UuUuUuUuUuU  Fly fishing, enjoy the outdoors, release the fish

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Selling my tools and materials. Mostly trout stuff, but some salt as well. Very little use, cannot tell Metz necks or Hoffman saddle from new. Some obscure stuff like Jackdaw scalp (for small wets) and Starling skin. Selling for less than half of new cost. Also have two Sage rods FS. Email for complete list and prices.

Send me a list and some prices

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Selling my tools and materials. Mostly trout stuff, but some salt as well. Very little use, cannot tell Metz necks or Hoffman saddle from new. Some obscure stuff like Jackdaw scalp (for small wets) and Starling skin. Selling for less than half of new cost. Also have two Sage rods FS. Email for complete list and prices.

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Selling my tools and materials. Mostly trout stuff, but some salt as well. Very little use, cannot tell Metz necks or Hoffman saddle from new. Some obscure stuff like Jackdaw scalp (for small wets) and Starling skin. Selling for less than half of new cost. Also have cconnect  

Am interested. Let me know what you have and what you want. thanks.  Al Lasher    

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I remember an old Charlie Brown cartoon that suggested all babies be issued a banjo at birth. It’s close to impossible to play sad music on a banjo.

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There is a fly tying cd (perhaps 2) available in both Mac and PC-compatible format (but not necessarily the same cd). Anyway, has anyone know of or have seen a reputable mail order firm that offers these at a discount? — dept of math/cs ut martin

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There is a fly tying cd (perhaps 2) available in both Mac and PC-compatible format (but not necessarily the same cd). Anyway, has anyone know of or have seen a reputable mail order firm that offers these at a discount?

Hi Jim I think the CD you are looking for is Tying Flies for Trout by Dick Stewart and Farrow Allen.  It’s available through Bob Mariotts at 800-535-6633 (orders) or 800-367-2299 (fax orders).  Also get his catalog, it’s the most incredible catalog/information source you’ll ever see. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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Previous posts on breathable waders have mentioned their durability and some problems that have developed. I wondered if there was more personal experience out there on this topic. How durable have the different breathable wader brands been in your experience (Simms microfibers, Hodgmann wadelite, LL Bean Gore-Tex, Orvis Gore-Tex and any others you know of)?

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Previous posts on breathable waders have mentioned their durability and some problems that have developed. I wondered if there was more personal experience out there on this topic. How durable have the different breathable wader brands been in your experience (Simms microfibers, Hodgmann wadelite, LL Bean Gore-Tex, Orvis Gore-Tex and any others you know of)?

Hi Jonathan, I guided 83 trips and several personal trips as well in my Simms and they worked very well. I developed one pin hole leak after charging through some wild roses but the leak was very easy to repair. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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