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What other forms of government issued id except for passport, driver’s license or state id card are valid for boarding a plane?  If I have a badge from a government agency that has my name and picture is that considered "governmnet issued"?   Bob

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What other forms of government issued id except for passport, driver’s license or state id card are valid for boarding a plane?  If I have a badge from a government agency that has my name and picture is that considered "governmnet issued"?

In the past couple years I’ve flown with people from State, Justice, Homeland Security, and HHS and they’ve all managed with just their photo badge. If yours is from a satellite office of the Department of Collectible Miniatures Assessment or something then you might want to go ahead and dust off the driver’s license. miguel — See the world from your web browser: http://travel.u.nu/

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This was before the 11th, but a Delta person explained it to me once (because my license was not with me at the time, I know, check before leaving home) that anything issued by any government would be OK.  Voter Reg, passport, fishing license, library card etc.  At the time if you didn’t have a photo ID then a government issued something and another piece of ID worked. I actually ended up using my car insurance ID card (had the state’s name on it and my name on it and another ID and they said OK to fly.  Running back to get it from the lot stunk, but I got on the plane. So, I would assume you would be ok with a badge and picture. As an aside, the photo ID or one government issued non photo and one other still appears to be in place at the airlines, this is from one site, so the library card and credit card would in theory still work, though I wouldn’t want to test it.  The Airline may use these guidelines to issue the ticket and boarding pass, though I don’t believe the TSA has anything other then a Photo ID in their policies. —-start All passengers over the age of 18 are required to provide positive identification for travel at check-in. A photo ID issued by a local, state or federal government agency, or two forms of non-photo ID (at least one issued by a local, state, or federal government agency, such as a Social Security card) are acceptable forms of identification to present at check-in. If traveling outside the country, please remember to keep your passport and/or travel documents on you or in your carry-on bag at all times. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What other forms of government issued id except for passport, driver’s license or state id card are valid for boarding a plane?  If I have a badge from a government agency that has my name and picture is that considered "governmnet issued"?   Bob

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This was before the 11th, but a Delta person explained it to me once (because my license was not with me at the time, I know, check before leaving home) that anything issued by any government would be OK.  Voter Reg, passport, fishing license, library card etc.  At the time if you didn’t have a photo ID then a government issued something and another piece of ID worked. I actually ended up using my car insurance ID card (had the state’s name on it and my name on it and another ID and they said OK to fly.  Running back to get it from the lot stunk, but I got on the plane. So, I would assume you would be ok with a badge and picture.

Just last week, a friend of mine got to the airport and discovered that he’d grabbed his wife’s passport instead of his own on his way out the door that morning.  This friend doesn’t drive, so no license.  He went through everything in his wallet.  No picture cards or badges of any sort.   The check-in agent was apparently satisfied that he was who he said he was, and she told him that security would give him the full inspection. So he got the total body wanding and had all his carry-ons searched.  It was determined that he posed no threat to anyone and he got on the plane. His wife overnighted the right passport to his hotel. So the photo ID thing is mostly charade.  Considering that any 16-year-old knows where to get a fake ID, it seems rather pointless.

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What other forms of government issued id except for passport, driver’s license or state id card are valid for boarding a plane?  If I have a badge from a government agency that has my name and picture is that considered "governmnet issued"?   Bob

For an authoritative answer, check with the airline. If you’re referring to a flight that originates in the United States, you can also probably find this information on the web at http://www.tsa.gov or perhaps at http://travel.state.gov

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What other forms of government issued id except for passport, driver’s license or state id card are valid for boarding a plane?  If I have a badge from a government agency that has my name and picture is that considered "governmnet issued"?   Bob

Short answer – yes.

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What other forms of government issued id except for passport, driver’s license or state id card are valid for boarding a plane?  If I have a badge from a government agency that has my name and picture is that considered "governmnet issued"?   Bob

In which country? Cheers, Jason.

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Last year, my husband lost his driver’s license while we were down in Arizona.  He didn’t realize it until he was checking in at the airport. The only thing with his picture on it was his Jury license from the International Bobsled and Skeleton Federation.  He showed it and he was let through Security. Kitty Panza

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      I’m loking to purchase a new or used outboard but need opinions on them. My cheap ass partner does not want to spring for the new 4 stroke models so were considering the alternatives. I understand that we should probably stay away from carbureators (Johnson) and that honda/merc/yamaha and others are all decent.       I need to know about repair histories, and general levels of satisfaction from boaters and not dealers and sellers that might be biased. I’m in NYC and plan to use my 17 foot for inside fishing and waterskiing so I’m looking for a 90 hp or larger (i guess). Any useful feedback? –Eugene

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     I’m loking to purchase a new or used outboard but need opinions on them. My cheap ass partner does not want to spring for the new 4 stroke models so were considering the alternatives. I understand that we should probably stay away from carbureators (Johnson) and that honda/merc/yamaha and others are all decent.       I need to know about repair histories, and general levels of satisfaction from boaters and not dealers and sellers that might be biased. I’m in NYC and plan to use my 17 foot for inside fishing and waterskiing so I’m looking for a 90 hp or larger (i guess). Any useful feedback? –Eugene

Before you discount "carburated" engines, I have 2 old Johnsons and 3 old Evinrudes that run like Rolex watches.  The new engines have their strong points, but I’ll take my old geezers.  I’ve never had to paddle home. noah

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     I’m loking to purchase a new or used outboard but need opinions on them. My cheap ass partner does not want to spring for the new 4 stroke models so were considering the alternatives. I understand that we should probably stay away from carbureators (Johnson) and that honda/merc/yamaha and others are all decent.

Unless you’re an outboard mechanic trying to make a living, what’s so bad about carbs?  A little less fuel and power efficient, a LOT more reliable. Dan — Mustangs don’t count as sports cars. They’re pacifiers for NASCAR driver wannabes who couldn’t afford anything reasonable.                 — Ryan Micallef

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Yamaha 115hp FI  4 stroke. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      I’m loking to purchase a new or used outboard but need opinions on them. My cheap ass partner does not want to spring for the new 4 stroke models so were considering the alternatives. I understand that we should probably stay away from carbureators (Johnson) and that honda/merc/yamaha and others are all decent.       I need to know about repair histories, and general levels of satisfaction from boaters and not dealers and sellers that might be biased. I’m in NYC and plan to use my 17 foot for inside fishing and waterskiing so I’m looking for a 90 hp or larger (i guess). Any useful feedback? –Eugene

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I took a few photos this afternoon while skiing. I thought some of you might like to see them. It’s just so beautiful up here in the winter, even though the fishing is nonexistent. The URLs are: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2698.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2704.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2707.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2711.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2718.jpg I’ll admit that I was experimenting with the depth of field of my digital camera. Unfortunately, you can’t get the full effect with these small photos. A 6-megapixel camera and a large print would blow you away. BTW, all shots were hand-held. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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nice shots… richard / colorado

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I took a few photos this afternoon while skiing. I thought some of you might like to see them. It’s just so beautiful up here in the winter, even though the fishing is nonexistent. The URLs are: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2698.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2704.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2707.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2711.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/p2718.jpg I’ll admit that I was experimenting with the depth of field of my digital camera. Unfortunately, you can’t get the full effect with these small photos. A 6-megapixel camera and a large print would blow you away. BTW, all shots were hand-held. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Nice roff, roffs you have there.   George

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Nice roff, roffs you have there.

They’re the best, George. We communicate telepathically. I’m fortunate to have the finest cross-country skiing you can imagine right out of town, and dogs are very welcome. Arlo, the Golden Retriever, had a lot of problems with getting ice in his paws at first, but the more we do it (like every day) the tougher he gets. The Border Collie, Bee, bounds through the snow like it doesn’t exist. I’m new to cross-country skiing, but I’m finding that it has some similarities to fly fishing. Every day the conditions are a little different. It’s never the same. Not yet, anyway. I love it. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Put Gink between his toes or better yet, make him a set of booties.  As a last resort, put cotton around his toes and duck tape but don’t wrap tape.  Squeeze it on. Your Dog’s Pal, George’s Arf – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nice roff, roffs you have there. They’re the best, George. We communicate telepathically. I’m fortunate to have the finest cross-country skiing you can imagine right out of town, and dogs are very welcome. Arlo, the Golden Retriever, had a lot of problems with getting ice in his paws at first, but the more we do it (like every day) the tougher he gets. The Border Collie, Bee, bounds through the snow like it doesn’t exist. I’m new to cross-country skiing, but I’m finding that it has some similarities to fly fishing. Every day the conditions are a little different. It’s never the same. Not yet, anyway. I love it. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Put Gink between his toes or better yet, make him a set of booties.  As a last resort, put cotton around his toes and duck tape but don’t wrap tape.  Squeeze it on.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’ve been spraying Pam in his paws. It’s cheaper than Gink. I’ve also been trimming the hair in his paws. The more we ski (well, actually I’m the one who skis) the less he needs it. I bought some fancy booties with Velcro strips ($36) and he promptly lost one. What a waste of money. He hated them, too. It was worth the 36 bucks to see him high-stepping around the cabin when I first put them on. I thought I’d die laughing. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Hunting With Hank, when they put the duck tape boots on Hank, pranced around also.  But they get used to it.  What you have to watch out for is frost bitten toes, this is why insulated foot wear is so important. Pam is a good idea.  Better than my idea by a long shot.  If he stops and licks paws, check time. Love the dogs though, they are beauties! George – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Put Gink between his toes or better yet, make him a set of booties.  As a last resort, put cotton around his toes and duck tape but don’t wrap tape.  Squeeze it on. Sorry to disappoint you, but I’ve been spraying Pam in his paws. It’s cheaper than Gink. I’ve also been trimming the hair in his paws. The more we ski (well, actually I’m the one who skis) the less he needs it. I bought some fancy booties with Velcro strips ($36) and he promptly lost one. What a waste of money. He hated them, too. It was worth the 36 bucks to see him high-stepping around the cabin when I first put them on. I thought I’d die laughing. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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I’m new to cross-country skiing, but I’m finding that it has some similarities to fly fishing. Every day the conditions are a little different. It’s never the same. Not yet, anyway. I love it.

I thought I might get a chance to get my skis out in Atlanta yesterday, but the snow melted too fast. I imagine the XC skiing must be great there. What you need is an Iridium phone with the data kit, and then you could upload photos to your site while you are still out skiing. Certainly couldn’t do that with film. <g — Charlie…

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I’m fortunate to have the finest cross-country skiing you can imagine right out of town, and dogs are very welcome….

The downhill’s not too shabby either, but alas, dogs are rarely welcome at a ski resort. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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But Ken, who makes those blanks? — ~~~~ The RodMaker (aka) The Shadow

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      if you had a chance to have a custom rod made, whos blank would you chose?     light spinning rod , 6 to 6 1/2 foot I don’t have experience with their spinning rod blanks, but in flyrods I’m impressed with Angler’s Workshop IM6 blanks, for the money. http://www.anglersworkshop.com — Ken Fortenberry

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But Ken, who makes those blanks?

Does it matter ? It’s quality IM6 graphite, or at least their flyrods are, for a good price. I suppose if you were to tell me that they’re manufactured by starving slaves in a third world hovel and marketed by profiteering commies using the proceeds to finance the violent overthrow of the US government, I would probably expect them to be a lot cheaper , but I’ve done business with Angler’s Workshop in the past and have been quite happy. Of course, this assumes that the original poster can buy whatever blank he wants. Most custom builders that I know of insist on using their own blanks or charge a premium to build a rod on the customer’s blank. I use Angler’s Workshop ’cause I roll my own. YMMV — Ken Fortenberry

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Do you continue to pay retail prices for these blanks you buy? — ~~~~ The RodMaker (aka) The Shadow

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But Ken, who makes those blanks? Does it matter ? It’s quality IM6 graphite, or at least their flyrods are, for a good price. I suppose if you were to tell me that they’re manufactured by starving slaves in a third world hovel and marketed by profiteering commies using the proceeds to finance the violent overthrow of the US government, I would probably expect them to be a lot cheaper , but I’ve done business with Angler’s Workshop in the past and have been quite happy. Of course, this assumes that the original poster can buy whatever blank he wants. Most custom builders that I know of insist on using their own blanks or charge a premium to build a rod on the customer’s blank. I use Angler’s Workshop ’cause I roll my own. YMMV — Ken Fortenberry

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Do you continue to pay retail prices for these blanks you buy?

Sure. I’m just a do-it-yourselfer who buys blanks for personal use and the occasional birthday gift/Christmas present. I wouldn’t expect a quantity discount or a professional discount. I assume when you find a blank that you like that you buy several of the same blank at a time. I buy ‘em one at a time as I need them,and I hardly ever buy the same blank twice. Apples & oranges, RodMaker, you’re a pro who deserves his discount, I’m just an amateur hobbyist. — Ken Fortenberry

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Ok, One thing I should have made more clear concerning the Lamiglass (Perigee) series. What I meant was that Lamiglass designed these blanks for custom builders(already stated that) but what I forgot to mention was that Lamiglass themselves will not use these blanks to build rods for resale! Have you tried their fly rod blanks yet? — ~~~~ The RodMaker (aka) The Shadow

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you continue to pay retail prices for these blanks you buy? Sure. I’m just a do-it-yourselfer who buys blanks for personal use and the occasional birthday gift/Christmas present. I wouldn’t expect a quantity discount or a professional discount. I assume when you find a blank that you like that you buy several of the same blank at a time. I buy ‘em one at a time as I need them,and I hardly ever buy the same blank twice. Apples & oranges, RodMaker, you’re a pro who deserves his discount, I’m just an amateur hobbyist. — Ken Fortenberry

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… Have you tried their fly rod blanks yet?

No, I haven’t. Lamiglas doesn’t make a 10′ 7wt. blank. The next flyrod I build for bassin’ will be a 10′ 7wt. I like the 10′ length because I sit so close to the water in my canoe. I like a slow action flyrod, that’s why I’m so partial to IM6, and my current 10′ 7wt. is sloooooow. But while a slow action rod is great for some things, bassin’ ain’t one of them, I’d like a faster action for bassin’. I’ll probably build the new one on a Sage 71003SP, it’s a lot faster than my current rod but still slow enough to be comfortable for me. — Ken Fortenberry

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The next flyrod I build for bassin’ will be a 10′ 7wt. I like the 10′ length because I sit so close to the water in my canoe. I like a slow action flyrod, that’s why I’m so partial to IM6, and my current 10′ 7wt. is sloooooow. But while a slow action rod is great for some things, bassin’ ain’t one of them, I’d like a faster action for bassin’. I’ll probably build the new one on a Sage 71003SP, it’s a lot faster than my current rod but still slow enough to be comfortable for me. — Ken Fortenberry

Hey Ken, It’s been a while since I built a new rod and I’m getting the fever.  I never thought of using a 10 footer or a 7 weight, but reading your post makes me want to hear more from you on the idea.  What conditions do you fish in?  What bugs do you throw?  Etc? I do some fly fishing from kickboats and tubes.  I don’t generally make long casts because it’s so easy to simply position my craft so that I’m the right distance from what ever target I choose.  My current fly rod is a 20-year-old Cabela’s 9 foot 8 weight.  The reason I use this particular rod is that it is the rod I happen to own and carry in my truck.   Now I’m starting to fish more from a sit-on-top kayak which is much better suited for covering distances of water than either a tube or a kickboat.  But it’s not as easy to position and is far more susceptible to the wind.  For those times when it’s hard to hold a position near the shoreline, I can see the advantage of a longer rod, but I don’t understand the advantage of a slower rod, or of the 7 weight.  (As I write this, it just occurred to me that if you add a foot in length, your wrist and arm will very likely be tireder at the end of the day and that a lighter rod might well be a blessing — is that it?)  At any rate, I’d like to hear more about the advantages of a slow rod vs. a faster rod, etc. etc.   —– Family, Friends, Fishing Rob Storm http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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Hey Ken, It’s been a while since I built a new rod and I’m getting the fever.  I never thought of using a 10 footer or a 7 weight, but reading your post makes me want to hear more from you on the idea.  What conditions do you fish in?  What bugs do you throw?  Etc?

Hi Rob, My "home water" is a collection of reclaimed strip mine ponds and the tributaries of the Vermillion River in east central Illinois. http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=40.106&lon=-87.7429&size=s&s=50 Conditions here on the prairie are usually windy and I fish out of a canoe. I’ll throw everything in the box at ‘em, poppers, Dahlberg divers, Clouser minnows, bunny leeches, wooly buggers, deer hair frogs etc., everything but crayfish flies, I don’t like fishin’ down on the bottom and losing 6 flies an hour. The difference between 7 & 8 wt is personal preference, the 8wt is the classic weight for a bass flyrod but a 7wt has enough backbone. The 10′ length gets the rod tip up a bit off the water, which is an advantage when you’re sitting low in the water like in a canoe (or a kayak). It’s also an advantage on a stream for mending and rollcasting. … I’d like to hear more about the advantages of a slow rod vs. a faster rod, etc. etc.

To oversimplify and generalize, slow action rods are preferred for delicate presentation (dry flies), and chucking a lot of weight (split shot to get nymphs down). Fast action rods are preferred for powering through the wind and for tossing big wind eating flies like deer hair and bigger poppers. So for bass fishin’ most folks prefer a faster action flyrod. My current 10′ 7wt is a Thomas & Thomas XL, a slow action rod that’s ideal for steelhead but not so for bassin’. A slow 7/8 wt rod can double as a steelhead rod and a pike/carp rod while a fast 7/8 wt rod can double as a bass rod and a bonefish rod. That’s why I’d like to build another 10′ 7wt on a faster blank. Take care, — Ken Fortenberry

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Hi Ken, Thanks for the info.  I think the last slow fly rod I had was an old glass Herter rod I built in the early ’60s.  Maybe it’s time to try another.   I agree with you about fishing on the bottom.  It never appealed to me even though I know that with a sinking line and a floating bug you can show the fish a presentation they don’t often see.  When I fish a fly rod, I like the action to be right in front of me.  Flies or plugs, I like my lure to be on the surface whenever possible. You mention pike and carp.  I’ve caught the odd carp while casting small streamers for white bass, but I’ve never had the pleasure of fighting a pike on a fly rod.  Am planning a trip to Andrew Lake in Alberta for June 2001.  I ‘ll probably take along a 5 weight for grayling, but after reading your post, I might want to pack the 8 weight as well.   Thanks again for the info. —– Family, Friends, Fishing Rob Storm http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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     if you had a chance to have a custom rod made, whos blank would you chose?     light spinning rod , 6 to 6 1/2 foot

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     if you had a chance to have a custom rod made, whos blank would you chose?     light spinning rod , 6 to 6 1/2 foot

Personally I would go with whatever RodMaker here in this group told me to. Good fishing, Richard L. LaFay  | (248) 753-6940 (work) 2887 Pontiac Court  | (248) 373-6865 (home) Auburn Hills, Michigan   48326 Ranger Boats, Lowrance Electronics, Berkley Trilene, Rippler, Bill Norman Lures, and Aqua-Vu underwater cameras. I use them because I think they’re the best!

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     if you had a chance to have a custom rod made, whos blank would you chose?     light spinning rod , 6 to 6 1/2 foot

I don’t have experience with their spinning rod blanks, but in flyrods I’m impressed with Angler’s Workshop IM6 blanks, for the money. http://www.anglersworkshop.com — Ken Fortenberry

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Need to provide a little more information… What does it say on the BUTT SECTION ? If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip, the chances are good that it has been "Trippered" and is useless…. Oh good start,  T-bone,  Canadian judge gives this egging troll an 8 on subtlety, Now the question is will the quarry be attracted?

_______  Heck Steve, I rose to that fly like a Trip to the Toilet bowl! LOL!!!! God!  I love this place. Mr. G.

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Steve Cooper: (snipped good stuff) <<Stevo the Howard Cosell impersonator Hell, man, now I know why you want a hat!  To hide that terrible looking rug on your head!  <g Dave L.

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Take it elsewhere pal. We’re all getting pretty tired of people spamming bamboo rods of unknown quality on this site.

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With all that goes on in this group, I have trouble labelling a one time post about a rod for sale as Spam. It seems appropriate to me to make a ONE TIME post about a fly fishing item for sale in this newsegroup. Short fishing note.  Because of all the unseasonably warm weather lately, the farmers have been irrigating again.  The rivers are VERY low. Last night I was fishing to midging fish that were making wakes when they moved to take a bug. It looked more like spawning fish (it wasn’t) than feeding ones. They were very spooky in the slow current and low water and very acrobatic when hooked. Willi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Take it elsewhere pal. We’re all getting pretty tired of people spamming bamboo rods of unknown quality on this site.

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With all that goes on in this group, I have trouble labelling a one time post about a rod for sale as Spam. It seems appropriate to me to make a ONE TIME post about a fly fishing item for sale in this newsegroup.

Sorry Willi, you are right. I guess I’m just getting a little testy about all the bandwidth wasted on the subject of bamboo rods of questionable pedigree.

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Black helicopters? Black helicopters? We don knee no stinkin Black helicopters Dave

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Martina/Larry (gender challenged??) –  now this is a bona-fide cross-posting!!! A friend of mine has a bamboo fly fishing rod and wants to get rid of it,for money of course. How much is he offering? I’ll take it off his hands for $20, just send me the money at the same time as the rod, no problemo   It’s not just old, it’s also still catching fish. sounds like wayno… Not quite correct, if it was "not just old, its also still catching bait"it would be just like Wayno

        if there’s one thing worse than a damn yankee, it’s a misinformed canuck.  :) wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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FYI "Canuck"is the ethnic slur for French Canadians. The correct slur for generic Canadians is "Cheeser," or "Frostback." Dave

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Heck Dave, I thought it was "Hoser". ) Frank ("Hoosier") Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FYI "Canuck"is the ethnic slur for French Canadians. The correct slur for generic Canadians is "Cheeser," or "Frostback." Dave

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FYI "Canuck"is the ethnic slur for French Canadians. The correct slur for generic Canadians is "Cheeser," or "Frostback." Dave

_____  I’d prefer to say, "Great Neighbors". Mr. G.

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A friend of mine has a bamboo fly fishing rod and wants to get rid of it, for money of course, and was wondering if there is a market for such a fine old piece of art.  It’s not just old, it’s also still catching fish. Not being a fisherman myself, I though I would bait you guys first, pardon the pun, and see what kind of response I will get. Thanks, Larry

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Martina/Larry (gender challenged??) –  now this is a bona-fide cross-posting!!! A friend of mine has a bamboo fly fishing rod and wants to get rid of it,for money of course.

How much is he offering?   It’s not just old, it’s also still catching fish. sounds like wayno… Not being a fisherman myself, I though I would bait you guys first, pardon the pun, and see what kind of response I will get.

will this do? Thanks, Larry

yer welcome. jeff ps – you might want to provide a few more details about the rod if you want a serious reply…no guarantee you’ll get one, but it might help.

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Need to provide a little more information… What does it say on the BUTT SECTION ? If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip, the chances are good that it has been "Trippered" and is useless…. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Not being a fisherman myself, I though I would bait you guys first, pardon the pun, and see what kind of response I will get.

Uh, this is a fly fishing newsgroup.  Bait is a four letter word. Keith

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Martina/Larry (gender challenged??) –  now this is a bona-fide cross-posting!!! A friend of mine has a bamboo fly fishing rod and wants to get rid of it,for money of course. How much is he offering?

I’ll take it off his hands for $20, just send me the money at the same time as the rod, no problemo   It’s not just old, it’s also still catching fish. sounds like wayno…

Not quite correct, if it was "not just old, its also still catching bait"it would be just like Wayno

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Need to provide a little more information… What does it say on the BUTT SECTION ? If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip, the chances are good that it has been "Trippered" and is useless….

Nah, it’s that crazy UPS guy. — Charlie…

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Need to provide a little more information… What does it say on the BUTT SECTION ? If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip, the chances are good that it has been "Trippered" and is useless….

Oh good start,  T-bone,  Canadian judge gives this egging troll an 8 on subtlety, Now the question is will the quarry be attracted?

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Tim Walker: <<If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip, the chances are good that it has been "Trippered" and is useless…. Cheap shot, Tim.  Not like you.  Very cheap shot.

OOoh too bad!, a beautiful rise and take,  but the wrong species…… Will T-bone lay out another cast? or is he still confident in his original presentation? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dave L.

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Tim Walker: <<If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip, the chances are good that it has been "Trippered" and is useless…. Cheap shot, Tim.  Not like you.  Very cheap shot. Dave L.

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If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip

Not fair you guys…you know that tip was straight when it left the factory…must have been that black helicopter that bent the tip. Big Dale

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Steve  Cooper: <<OOoh too bad!, a beautiful rise and take,  but the wrong species…… Will T-bone lay out another cast? or is he still confident in his original presentation? No rise and no take, Steve.  This is Timbo’s way of "egging" on Tripper.  I said he could *not* be egged on, and he can’t.  But I did not mean shit like this.  I meant "egged on" as George meant it — to get Tripper to do something that he knew was dishonorable. NO ONE can make Day Tripper (Dave Tatosian) do something like that. Egg him into a fight like this?  I think he will stay out of it just to fuck over Timbo. So, like I said, lad, "Cheap shot". Dave L.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Steve  Cooper: <<OOoh too bad!, a beautiful rise and take,  but the wrong species…… Will T-bone lay out another cast? or is he still confident in his original presentation? No rise and no take, Steve.  This is Timbo’s way of "egging" on Tripper.  I said he could *not* be egged on, and he can’t.  But I did not mean shit like this.  I meant "egged on" as George meant it — to get Tripper to do something that he knew was dishonorable. NO ONE can make Day Tripper (Dave Tatosian) do something like that. Egg him into a fight like this?  I think he will stay out of it just to fuck over Timbo. So, like I said, lad, "Cheap shot".

 I’m cool with that, Dave,  I know most of the story on this one, I’m just having a  little fun, Actually I think T-B is just trying to have a little fun too. I was pretty sure that DT wouldn’t be drawn in by T-B’s troll here but I just tried to make this thread a bit more interesting by adding the colour commentary. Stevo the Howard Cosell impersonator

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no — it was a blue UN helicopter, scouting out the US for conquest, scaring fish and bending tips. You don’t see them in the east — our tips are already bent .

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip Not fair you guys…you know that tip was straight when it left the factory…must have been that black helicopter that bent the tip. Big Dale

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Need to provide a little more information… What does it say on the BUTT SECTION ? If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip, the chances are good that it has been "Trippered" and is useless…. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

: )))))))))))))))))))) !  I can’t help it if you make me laugh, but that was kinda a low blow even for an unqualified Trippered judged rod T-bone.  You are soooooooooooo funny!   whew* Thanks, I needed that! Mr. G.

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Need to provide a little more information… What does it say on the BUTT SECTION ? If it’s got a defective ferrule OR a bent trip, the chances are good that it has been "Trippered" and is useless…. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

_______  Very insightful pal.  Keen of eye.  A ‘Trippered Conversation’ is more like it, to be perfectly frank.  "Of Course," that could cover also the tipper section but definitely the the Big Butt Section of a two act rod team?         You have to be one of the most honest posters in all of Roffdom. You are most appreciated pal. Mr. G.

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In 14 hours, the EBAY auction for a Beautiful Hardy Marquis 6 Fly Fishing Reel – No Reserve – will be completed. Please check it out. You may see it here: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=141623991 Thanks!

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I am sick of this damn ad. Big Dale

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Me too. Bob Elliott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am sick of this damn ad. Big Dale

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To the tune of "Way down upon the Swanee river" <bastard rod rendition snipped only for the sake of brevity

Mike, you never cease to amaze me. Imagine, a Brit, who resides in Germany, writing a tune to mimic my native states revered and favored song by the nineteenth century American songwriter, Stephen Foster. obroff: The Suwanee River originates in Southern Georgia in the Okeefenokee Swamp. It slowly meanders down into Florida where many beautiful aquifer fed springs pump many more gallons of pure clear water into it diluting the tannic nature from the great Georgia swamp. It eventually flows into the Gulf of Mexico. It is a wonderful fishery and even supports a protected sturgeon population. –Walt — Ezflyfish.com                 Blue Ridge Book Gallery Quality Gear & Service        Used & Out-of-Print Books http://www.ezflyfish.com      http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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One of the greatest and most haunting tunes ever written. My favourite banjo song. Obroff:  When flyfishing for pike the worn out top string of a banjo makes an excellent leader tippet, although silk wound mandolin strings are even better. TL MC

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My favorite is Dueling Banjo’s. Ernie Harrison

<snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -One of the greatest and most haunting tunes ever written. My favourite banjo song. <snip

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Important revision after reading through !!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So think of this when you cast your Bastard, what one man may achieve, with hope and guts and a little bit of money, the fruits you now perceive, no matter what the world may say about it, one really must admire, the drive and guts and hard determination, to be a Bastard sire ! Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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To the tune of "Way down upon the Swanee river" Way down upon the old Snake river, one fine summer day, a dare was accepted there to build a bastard, and George set out to find a way, a first class rod of noble  lineage, the most perfect Bastard known, even dark ones would be made to order, on a brand new mill at home. The first attempts were fraught with problems, getting the right Bamboo, but this barrier was soon surmounted, and he set out to search for glue, the glue was found, and it was brilliant, so he carried on the scheme, the first few rods were not quite his standard, marred by the odd glue seam. A couple of butts were the first real station, on his lonesome road, the tips were harder, but he shouldered the burden, of his heavy load, a new mill head was then invented, and the tips at last took form, a wrapping machine, and several incidentals, took the rodbuilding world by storm The way was hard, and seemingly unending, but the target is now in sight, a good cane rod for just a few poor dollars, maybe George was really right, all those who scoffed and his plan derided, are now feeling rather small, He came he saw he boasted of his prowess, and now he

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Hi, Nice to meet your group, I hope you can give me some ideas as most posts seem to be from the US (strange, isn’t it?) I am visiting NY for a very short trip and will be staying  near Milford, in New Jersey. I’ll be staying a very short time and if someone could me give me a few names and adresses of shops selling fly fishing equipment (rods), it would be of great help. (no US yellow pages where I live). My one and only rod has been "parting company" with me during a transit at Paris airport. I am rather angry. Luckily the fishing season is over in Ireland, well for most. Any reccomendation for a favourite retailer will be welcome. Thanks Remy

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I am visiting NY for a very short trip and will be staying  near Milford, in New Jersey.

Remy, I live in southern NJ. I get up to that area about once a year to visit the flyfishing show in Somerset. If your visit will be toward the end of January that would be the place to go. Most of the major manufacturers and many fly shops are represented. There are also a couple of casting ponds so you can cast and compare any rods you are interested in. Somerset is within 25 miles of Milford. If your visit doesn’t coincide with the show you could try Effinger’s in Bound Brook on Rt.22 about half way between  Milford and New York City. They have a good selection of rods.I’m sure there are several shops in N.Y.C., the Urban Angler comes to mind, I can’t find thier catalog right now buy if your interested I can get back to you with thier address. Enjoy your stay.          Jim

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Recently returned from a guided tour with Dennis of Trout Creek Flies. Had a great time. Caught several 20 inchers and a total of 50+fish. I highly recommend this guide as he knows all the hot spots in the river. Lunch was great too!! larry and darlene

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Recently returned from a guided tour with Dennis of Trout Creek Flies. Had a great time. Caught several 20 inchers and a total of 50+fish. I highly recommend this guide as he knows all the hot spots in the river. Lunch was great too!! larry and darlene How much does Dennis charge for a guide trip? Mark    

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Path: news.teleport.com!psgrain!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!library.erc.clarkson.ed u!ub!csn!news.usafa.af.mil!dfyc16.usafa.af.mil!GLIVINSKIDK%DFYC Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Organization: United States Air Force Academy Lines: 11 Distribution: USA NNTP-Posting-Host: dfyc16.usafa.af.mil Summary: big fish Keywords: trout,fly fishing Recently returned from a guided tour with Dennis of Trout Creek Flies. Had a great time. Caught several 20 inchers and a total of 50+fish. I highly recommend this guide as he knows all the hot spots in the river. Lunch was great too!! larry and darlene How much does Dennis charge for a guide trip? Mark    

I was at the Green for few days around March 20.  I arranged a trip through Dennis (Trout Creek Flies).  It cost $240, but that was the low season price – $275 is the standard price (April 1 – ?).  I stayed at the Flaming Gorge Lodge (arrnged by Denni) and noticed that they had wading guides available as well, and if you are looking to save $, it’s cheaper and the wading was great at that time (very low water).  The fishing was great too… Anthony

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What’s wrong with polar bear hackle? I use grizzly hackle myself – floats well too, once you remove the claws.

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mr. bulldog- badger refers to the patterning of the feathers, not the type of animal the fur/ feather came from-if you think about this, there is also grizzly hackle, and i believe something called "furnace" hackle which definitely did not come from a furnace…

: Could this be related to Badger hackle?  You guys have been ragging, but : I haven’t seen hackle on a badger, but every fly tier knows, that they : sell badger hackle! : Give the dude a break…hey, I should talk, but I DO have a question?   : Does anyone know where I can get Kodiak hackle? : Bulldog : #                         |  "I am neither loitering nor trespassing.     # : # Paul "Cousin" Graham    |   I have simply chosen an advisable location  # : #                         |     – from the movie, ‘Fletch’                #

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Whatever turns you on !

Seems every year they pull someone out of the polar bear compound who apparently tried that. Seems it’s not too healthy. multitudes of synthetic "furs" available out there? I’ve been tying pike streamers with Super Hair lately. Ties nice if all you want is a straight streamer, but I’d like something with some flare (as in flares like deer hair). Any suggestions? JL 8-Wt Editor

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Hmmm . . . Must be one of them flying polar bears I’ve heared tell about. Could be dangerous if one o’ them critters gets confused an’ lands on some statue down in Nu Yawk City! But, I guess you could get some mighty big necks off one of ‘em! JL 8-Wt Editor

Whatever turns you on ! Pete Marrow, Global Seismology Research Group, British Geological Survey, Murchison House, West Mains Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3LA. UK. tel: 031-667-1000          Fax: 031-667-1877  

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – mr. bulldog- badger refers to the patterning of the feathers, not the type of animal the fur/ feather came from-if you think about this, there is also grizzly hackle, and i believe something called "furnace" hackle which definitely did not come from a furnace… : Could this be related to Badger hackle?  You guys have been ragging, but : I haven’t seen hackle on a badger, but every fly tier knows, that they : sell badger hackle! : Give the dude a break…hey, I should talk, but I DO have a question?   : Does anyone know where I can get Kodiak hackle? : Bulldog

Mr. Santos, I KNOW why badger and grizzly hackle are so named, but I decided to make a joke.  Whew, I guess you didn’t get the hint from my last question/sentence.  Anyway, I hope that one day, everyone will spend as much on their sense of humor as they do their fly fishing equipment (and some should fork out a little more)! Ruf, Bulldog #                         |  "I am neither loitering nor trespassing.     # # Paul "Cousin" Graham    |   I have simply chosen an advisable location  # #                         |     – from the movie, ‘Fletch’                #

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: mr. bulldog- : : badger refers to the patterning of the feathers, not the type of animal the fur/ : feather came from-if you think about this, there is also grizzly hackle, and And I thought "grizzly hackle" referred to some of those road-kill birds I’ve been known to drag home! Charley

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I recently saw and ad in Flyfishermens Mag. about some guys who sells polar bear hackle.  I was curious to see if anyone has ever used or knows much about it.  

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I recently saw and ad in Flyfishermens Mag. about some guys who sells polar bear hackle.

Hmmm . . . Must be one of them flying polar bears I’ve heared tell about. Could be dangerous if one o’ them critters gets confused an’ lands on some statue down in Nu Yawk City! But, I guess you could get some mighty big necks off one of ‘em! JL 8-Wt Editor

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Could this be related to Badger hackle?  You guys have been ragging, but I haven’t seen hackle on a badger, but every fly tier knows, that they sell badger hackle! Give the dude a break…hey, I should talk, but I DO have a question?   Does anyone know where I can get Kodiak hackle? Bulldog #                         |  "I am neither loitering nor trespassing.     # # Paul "Cousin" Graham    |   I have simply chosen an advisable location  # #                         |     – from the movie, ‘Fletch’                #

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