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Hello Everyone,  I’m gearing up to do a bit of small lake fishing next week.  I really haven’t done much lake fly fishing over the past few years so I’m not real sure what to bring along for patterns.  Can anyone suggest some good "general" patterns for exploration on high mountain lakes? TIA

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Hello Everyone,  I’m gearing up to do a bit of small lake fishing next week.  I really haven’t done much lake fly fishing over the past few years so I’m not real sure what to bring along for patterns.  Can anyone suggest some good "general" patterns for exploration on high mountain lakes? TIA

These are the flies I use over here in Scotland on hill lochs :- http://www.ftscotland.co.uk/flyindex.html especially the "Dry fly", "Hill Loch Nymph" and "Iron Blue Wetfly". — Don`t Worry, Be Happy       Sandy —       Website:-  http://www.ftscotland.co.uk     IRC:- Sandyb in #rabble  uk3.arcnet.vapor.com Port:6667      #Rabble Channel Website:- http://www.ftscotland.co.uk/rabble              ICQ : 41266150

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These are the flies I use over here in Scotland on hill lochs :- http://www.ftscotland.co.uk/flyindex.html especially the "Dry fly", "Hill Loch Nymph" and "Iron Blue Wetfly".

Thanks for the link Sandy!  It’s good to see someone talk about fly fishing around here…. — Opinions are like assholes.  Everyone’s got one. … and they all stink!

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Thanks for the link Sandy!  It’s good to see someone talk about fly fishing around here….

Yeah, beats the hell out of gratuitous insults, don’t it? Opinions are like assholes.  Everyone’s got one.

makes you superfluous, huh? … and they all stink!

We are pleased to bow to your authority. Wolfgang o.k., who wants to ask how someone comes to know so much about rectal redolence?

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Thanks for the link Sandy!  It’s good to see someone talk about fly fishing around here…. Yeah, beats the hell out of gratuitous insults, don’t it?

Opinions are like assholes.  Everyone’s got one. makes you superfluous, huh?

… and they all stink! We are pleased to bow to your authority.

— Opinions are like assholes.  Everyone’s got one. … and they all stink!

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My friend Michael had some unusual interest a couple of years ago while fishing a P&O it was taken on his backcast by a dragonfly. Later while he was telling his fishing partner about this it happened again and it was witnessed. Each yearwhile at the Southern Conclave in Mountain Home i tie a dozen for the kids who fish togeather in a kids only section of the Norfolk River and only last year did they not take a bunch of fish for them. Last year was real different cause I have a friend that said that it was the first year in the last seventeen years that soft hackles did not work for him in that river during the conclave. This is another of the many things that I find that I do not pretend to understand. Soft hackles and bamboo rods seem to go togeather very well. You might want to tie up a few of the old Arkansas pattern called the Red Ass which is simply a partridge and peacock hurl tied with a red thread abdomen. Big Dale

You had sent me the recipe on the Red Ass before and I had forgotten it, thanks for the reminder.  I’m sure I can cook up some steelhead friendly versions of it too. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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My friend Michael had some unusual interest a couple of years ago while fishing a P&O it was taken on his backcast by a dragonfly. Later while he was telling his fishing partner about this it happened again and it was witnessed

This happened to a buddy of mine two years ago! The dragonfly was actually trying to fly off with his fly. He pulled it in and cast the dragonfly into the creek (still gnawing his fly) which was immediately attacked and mostly consumed by a trout, leaving him with a dragonfly-head-on-a-fly to cast about. He caught no fish with just the head. Sean

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Tying the old north country style of wet flies is very addictive. Big Dale

Okay Dale, define that for me, please? — (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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Here you go George: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/emt3/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tying the old north country style of wet flies is very addictive. Big Dale Okay Dale, define that for me, please? —

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Funny how great minds think alike. About a year ago while tying at a weekly meeting of The Roadkill Roundtable my mind started wandering and I put a size 14 wet fly hook in the vise and started with about 5 fibers of zelon as a trailing shuck. I had a 12 pack of superfine dubbing with me so I then dubbed a body of chartreuse. Then I added a collar of bobwhite quail tied like you said with the fibers stripped from one side of the feather. I am sorry that I did not think of the read head. Mine worked very well last summer for my beloved bluegills and last fall for a few rainbows over in Arkansas. I am looking forward to hearing how they work for you. Tying the old north country style of wet flies is very addictive. Big Dale

These old wets were the first flies I tied and used. My first fish on my own fly was a half pound largemouth on a Partridge and Orange that a had fished on a slow pulse retrieve.  All of my early trout were either taken on a P&O or an EHC.  A few months ago, I picked up some Pearsall’s silk and a starling skin – they’re still sitting on the bench.  Perhaps this weekend. I’ll let you know how they work for ‘gills too, once the warm weather arrives. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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my own fly was a half pound largemouth on a Partridge and Orange that a had fished on a slow pulse retrieve.  All of my early trout were either taken on a P&O or an EHC.  

My friend Michael had some unusual interest a couple of years ago while fishing a P&O it was taken on his backcast by a dragonfly. Later while he was telling his fishing partner about this it happened again and it was witnessed. Each yearwhile at the Southern Conclave in Mountain Home i tie a dozen for the kids who fish togeather in a kids only section of the Norfolk River and only last year did they not take a bunch of fish for them. Last year was real different cause I have a friend that said that it was the first year in the last seventeen years that soft hackles did not work for him in that river during the conclave. This is another of the many things that I find that I do not pretend to understand. Soft hackles and bamboo rods seem to go togeather very well. You might want to tie up a few of the old Arkansas pattern called the Red Ass which is simply a partridge and peacock hurl tied with a red thread abdomen. Big Dale

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the bug making business.  On Friday, my big steelie took a plain old Partridge & Orange yet the float rodder who ended up with seven on the day, swears by anything chartreuse.  So add 2 + 2 and I’m tying up size 12 Partridge & Flos on a Kamasan B175 (same as a Mustad 3906) in fluorescent green, chartreuse, or yellow using Uni’s Neon 1/0 braided thread plus a flo red 6/0 head .

Funny how great minds think alike. About a year ago while tying at a weekly meeting of The Roadkill Roundtable my mind started wandering and I put a size 14 wet fly hook in the vise and started with about 5 fibers of zelon as a trailing shuck. I had a 12 pack of superfine dubbing with me so I then dubbed a body of chartreuse. Then I added a collar of bobwhite quail tied like you said with the fibers stripped from one side of the feather. I am sorry that I did not think of the read head. Mine worked very well last summer for my beloved bluegills and last fall for a few rainbows over in Arkansas. I am looking forward to hearing how they work for you. Tying the old north country style of wet flies is very addictive. Big Dale

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The fishing season will start in a couple of weeks and so I was doing some preparations. I decided to dress some basic flypatterns. After  sitting in front of my tying vise and having tied some nice Buck caddis and GRHE goldhead I had been bored of these. So I asked myself a question; which other patterns should I dress and are there any other useful things to do with my fishing gear? I start with my results and hope of some other ROFF(T) hints: Do some pheasant tail nymphs and Adams. Exchange your leaders, which means for me make some new furled leaders. Best Regards and tight lines Wim

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Well, if guys could see what I’m tying now, I’d be drummed out of the bug making business.  On Friday, my big steelie took a plain old Partridge & Orange yet the float rodder who ended up with seven on the day, swears by anything chartreuse.  So add 2 + 2 and I’m tying up size 12 Partridge & Flos on a Kamasan B175 (same as a Mustad 3906) in fluorescent green, chartreuse, or yellow using Uni’s Neon 1/0 braided thread plus a flo red 6/0 head .  Tie on the 1/0 flo, and wrap over a few strands of mallard for the tail, wrap back and tie off.  Tie on the red flo and add two turns of partridge spider style (one side trimmed off.)  It actually doesn’t look all that bad and I think it just might work.   Picture to follow on ABPF.  Field tests due this week.  Stay tuned. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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Steffen, Call or write Fred, I guarantee good fishing and a good time. Helmer, Fred E-mail Address(es): Business Information:   Company: Fred’s Custom Tackle & Fishing Adventures   Address:     Unit 1- 5880 Vedder Rd..     Chilliwack BC V2R 5P4   Phone: 604-858-7344 Fred deals with a great many European clients. — See our Sharks at the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas!!!! <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ spam block x – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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http://www.guidebc.com/ Vic Carrao is one of the best,most reasonable guides in the Fraser Valley. Also ask about Sturgeon fishing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Steffen, Call or write Fred, I guarantee good fishing and a good time. Helmer, Fred E-mail Address(es): Business Information:   Company: Fred’s Custom Tackle & Fishing Adventures   Address:     Unit 1- 5880 Vedder Rd..     Chilliwack BC V2R 5P4   Phone: 604-858-7344 Fred deals with a great many European clients. — See our Sharks at the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas!!!! <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ spam block x Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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My favorite rivers flooded last week, so we fished bluegills and went out for draughts afterwards (BBC Pale Ale – heavy on the Cascade hops this summer).  Definitely no drought in Massachusetts this year.  It hasn’t hit 90 degrees (F) in over a month.

Raining like heck in Juneau, Alaska and it hasn’t hit 90 degrees since we’ve been keeping records.

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It is still hot in Dallas. Duh!! remember we are not all that far from Wichita Falls which has the claim of one of the most appropriately named bicycle races in a few weeks, The Hotter Than Hell 100. Lake Lewisville is still over 13 feet low. Big Dale .

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My favorite rivers flooded last week, so we fished bluegills and went out for draughts afterwards (BBC Pale Ale – heavy on the Cascade hops this summer).  Definitely no drought in Massachusetts this year.  It hasn’t hit 90 degrees (F) in over a month.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? Bill Kiene

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What is happening out your way?

Serious drought in Georgia. — Charlie…

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Wet and cool in Ontario – all of the rivers are high and we’ve had a few floods. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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What is happening out your way?

reporting from north carolina:         it’s been a great year for bermuda grass.  the golf course fairways are lush and green.  of course, i live in paradise.  in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". wayno

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Hi All, What is happening out your way?

Big Dale covered the DFW area (hotter’n hell, 11 or 12 days over 100, and dry) and it was hot (mid 90s), with a little rain in Orlando area, raining to beat all hell on the MS/AL Gulf Coast, particularly Mobile. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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Well, in Ohio farmers are expecting exceptional corn crops…….spring rains have been the pits. Of course this is smallmouth bas country which is some fine fishing.  This spring as the fishing started to heat up we began having rains.  Oh, you could find a place to fish but my usual haunts were high and muddy.  About the time you thought you could go fishing tomorrow, put a hurtin on me. So for a month I was unable to fish….and this while the wife and little girl were out of town.  By the time the water was fishable again, boom, summer was here….algae, green water the whole bit. Early morning and late evening were the ticket….I just missed out on a whole spring of fishing…….john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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Lotta Summer rain here in Maryland.  Some of the stockies are still around, as the rain has kept the rivers cool.  Temp was in the 70s yesterday.  Nebraska on the other hand is in draught and its sizzlin’ hot in the 100s.        Frank Reid Before you buy.

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden".

When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

        "climax" is about 15 miles southeast.  in the nether regions, one might say. wayno

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

Not far from Friends University, I take it? <G R

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When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

  When I lived in Nebraska and owned a 90 hp Super Cub, my flying buddy and I talked about establishing a record for the quickest time in a Super Cub on a flight from Colon, Nebraska to Athol, Kansas:) Bob Skinner   Buffalo, WY — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Ya’ll keep your pre-verted towns away from the home of my dear, sainted mother.  She lives in Virgin, UT.  As a matter of fact, I was jus’ thinkin’.  There’s this lady, lives down the street, name’s Mary.  Then again, she CAN’T be that Mary, ’cause she moved up from Las Vegas.    Virgin is the only place in the world with an actual Virgin Recycling Center.                       Frank Reid Before you buy.

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The trout in Northern California are plentiful and in great condition after four years of good rain and snowfall.  River runoff has reduced to the point where dry fly fishing is good and will remain that way for the rest of the year.  This is the year for those 100 trout days. Ernie

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Not far from Friends University, I take it?

About 75mi (or so) east of Friends University of Central Kansas<g. (not the officially sanction name of the school). — Charlie…

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   "climax" is about 15 miles southeast.  in the nether regions, one might say.

Ah, you’ve been there<g. — Charlie…

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What is happening out your way?

Its looking like drought in CO.  Streams not controlled by dam releases are running quite low and warm, at least on the eastern slope.  Hopefully at least some of the fish will survive.

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Up here in the Lakes District it has been raining off and on all summer. The last 5 days or so it’s been sunny. I haven’t been to any rivers in a couple of weeks just fishing the lake so I can’t say how they are. One plus though if the water is high it usually brings record runs for the fall.             Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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What is happening out your way?

I have only been able to fly fish our local river on two occasions in the last three months becasue it’s so muddy.  We watered the lawn only once this entire summer.  Not flood per se, but steady precipitation. Mu

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What is happening out your way? I have only been able to fly fish our local river on two occasions in the last three months becasue it’s so muddy.  We watered the lawn only once this entire summer.  Not flood per se, but steady precipitation. Mu

Today, will be (provided we don’t get rain) the  144th consecutive day without measurable precipitation in Las Vegas – Going for the record of 150 set in 1950!  So I guess you could say that we are having a drought.  BUT!  20 minutes after it starts raining, we will be in a flood.  I normally fish in Utah – about 3 hours north of here.  Creeks and ponds in that area are near or at record lows.  Fire danger is rated at Extreme+.  

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What is happening out your way? In The Southern Tier of Vermont,  We had three months of nearly

continuous rains.  The rivers and streams were quite high and not very fishable.  This has settled quite a bit in the past month and the fishing is the best that it has been in my experiance. There has been a fairly steady Sulfur hatch and #10 & #12 sulfers are highly reliable and productive. The Trout are very numerous, well distributed, and in excellent health.   They are deep, broad, and remarkably brightly colored.  They are also guite long winded, makeing for some outstandingly long fights.  Some of the jumps are spectacular. The health of the fisheries is probably due to higher than average streamflows. In fact, fishermen should be extra aware of the weather. Because of the high water table, flash flooding can be an important consideration.  You want to be sure that you leave yourself a ready escape if you are fishing in the rain. If it has rained, the rivers and streams will be high for a couple of days.  The best times to fish are when the water has cleared and receded some.  Evening is the best time, with the last hour of light being the peak time.   So, just choose a water and hang on!                                     Mike Don’t forget to let them go.

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I hear ya Wayno Buddy…loud and clear. Ever drop a lit match on your whacker ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

        sure.  why the hell you think i stopped smoking? wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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   sure.  why the hell you think i stopped smoking?

Couldn’t work the child proof lighters? — Charlie…

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Gentle FFers, Is there a FAQ, that I could look at before I ask any more FAQ? John

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John Not that I know of. Actually fly fishing questions are very welcome and greeted generally with pretty full answers as they break the monotony of biting one another over and over. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gentle FFers, Is there a FAQ, that I could look at before I ask any more FAQ? John

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Gentle FFers, Is there a FAQ, that I could look at before I ask any more FAQ? John

Yes there is.  Check out these sites: http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~jcook/ROFF/ http://www.roff.org/ — Levi Always do sober what you said you’d do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. –Ernest Hemingway

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John Not that I know of.  [deleted]

It is a *requirement* of this newsgroup that you read the FAQ prior to posting. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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John Not that I know of.  [deleted] It is a *requirement* of this newsgroup that you read the FAQ prior to posting.

Bullshit.      - Ken — "Everyone must believe in something. I believe I’ll go canoeing."                   — H.D. Thoreau

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[deleted] Bullshit. – Ken

As much as I see poetry in this itself…. From the FAQ: "This FAQ list has been compiled by members to address questions and issues that freequently appear. Review it. " It does not say, "please review it" or "you should review it". http://www.rdc.com.au/Netiquette.html "When you join a list, monitor the messages for a few days to get a feel for what common questions are asked, and what topics are deemed off-limits. This is commonly referred to as lurking. When you feel comfortable with the group, then start posting. See if there is a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for a group that you are interested in joining. Veteran members get annoyed when they see the same questions every few weeks, or at the start of each semester." Again it doesn’t ask you to "please see if there is a FAQ.." it says "See if there is a FAQ". Pretty common Usenet stuff Ken.  If there is a FAQ then it is required reading… (define ‘require’). — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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 I could have sent in my version of a FAQ requiring the reading of ROFF in the nude.  While I’m sure that’s how most of us do indeed read ROFF, just because it is written does not make it a requirement. sweet baby jesus, janik, show some concern for your fellow man!  having attended more than one clave, the images suggested by your reckless ramblings force one’s imagination control to levels of sheer panic.  even the first amendment has its limits!

I hear ya Wayno Buddy…loud and clear. Ever drop a lit match on your whacker ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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  I could have sent in my version of a FAQ requiring the reading of ROFF in the nude.  While I’m sure that’s how most of us do indeed read ROFF, just because it is written does not make it a requirement.

        sweet baby jesus, janik, show some concern for your fellow man!  having attended more than one clave, the images suggested by your reckless ramblings force one’s imagination control to levels of sheer panic.  even the first amendment has its limits! wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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[deleted] Bullshit. – Ken As much as I see poetry in this itself…. From the FAQ: "This FAQ list has been compiled by members to address questions and issues that freequently appear. Review it. " It does not say, "please review it" or "you should review it".

The FAQ at Jon’s site is merely a collection of thoughts from various members, it is in no way an "official" charter.  I could have sent in my version of a FAQ requiring the reading of ROFF in the nude.  While I’m sure that’s how most of us do indeed read ROFF, just because it is written does not make it a requirement. http://www.rdc.com.au/Netiquette.html "When you join a list, monitor the messages for a few days to get a feel for what common questions are asked, and what topics are deemed off-limits. This is commonly referred to as lurking. When you feel comfortable with the group, then start posting. See if there is a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for a group that you are interested in joining. Veteran members get annoyed when they see the same questions every few weeks, or at the start of each semester." Again it doesn’t ask you to "please see if there is a FAQ.." it says "See if there is a FAQ". Pretty common Usenet stuff Ken.  If there is a FAQ then it is required reading…

The site you cite is titled "Net User Guidelines and Netiquette" and is from one particular University.  You even selectively took sentences from various sections.  In the Usenet section, it does not even mention FAQs. It is CERTAINLY a good idea to read the FAQ, it’s probably even a nice thing to do, but it is in no way required. Later,      - Ken — "Everyone must believe in something. I believe I’ll go canoeing."                   — H.D. Thoreau

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Hello there, I’m scheduled to spend a couple of weeks near London on work assignment. I’m very interested in any advice you may have for fly fishing in this area. Any and all suggestions are welcome!! Thanks, John Erskine

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I’m scheduled to spend a couple of weeks near London on work assignment. I’m very interested in any advice you may have for fly fishing in this area. Any and all suggestions are welcome!!

Surprisingly good fishing is available near London, as many of the classic chalk streams (Test, Itchen, Bourne, Lambourne, etc.) are within a 90 minute drive west-southwest of the city in Hampshire. Isaak Walton, for example, is buried in Winchester cathedral.  There’s a small chapel where he lies, with stained glass scenes of the apostles fishing, intermixed with scenes of the master himself.  If you hit my website, address below, you can read an account of my trip last year. The problem, of course, is that virtually all of the water is private, controlled either by private land-owners or clubs.  You’ll have to at least pay a rod fee, and probably need to hire a guide, at least to begin. My fishing was arranged by: William Daniel, some of the best water in the area. Michael — www.geocities.com/yosemite/falls/3363 Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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It is a big state, what area is she in? — Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail Ernie Harrison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Want to give a friend of mine fly fishing lessons for her birthday She lives in California but would probably also travel out of state Any suggestions Thanks for the help Spot247

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Want to give a friend of mine fly fishing lessons for her birthday She lives in California but would probably also travel out of state Any suggestions Thanks for the help Spot247

Take a look at http://www.flyline.com/ MichaelSmith

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what is the best way to clean line?  I use Wilson Creek the night before I go Fishing.  I can not handle my line not flowing through the rod when I am mending a drift.  What do other people do to clean line?

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what is the best way to clean line?  I use Wilson Creek the night before I go Fishing.  I can not handle my line not flowing through the rod when I am mending a drift.  What do other people do to clean line?

Unfortunately, I don’t clean my lines as often as I should.  When they no longer fit through the guides, I know I’ve got too much crud on them. Seriously, the cheapest way to actually clean a fly line (in my opinion) is to wash it in a tub with soapy water.  Then, rinse in clean water and wipe dry.  That deals with the cleaning issue.  Keeping a line conditioned is another matter.  I have purchased a lot of lines over the years and have a desk drawer full of the line conditioners that come with the fly lines.  I use these for the most part…just because I have them, they work and I haven’t found a need to purchase anything else.  I’ve also used Armor All (sp??) on lines at times and it seems to work…but I’ve not checked with any of the line manufacturers about it.  Perhaps someone can tell me if I’m doing any damage to the lines with it.  It sure helps with my shooting line in terms of decreasing friction and adding to the length of my casts. Barry Brown

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   I like Bon Ami, a sponge and a bucket of warm water. When the line is dry run some Russ Peaks over it. Like new till it gets dirty again.     On the water I use those abrasive pads sold by SA fo rcleaning lines. They’re great for a couple of times then they get all gunky.    -Ralph what is the best way to clean line?  I use Wilson Creek the night before I go Fishing.  I can not handle my line not flowing through the rod when I am mending a drift.  What do other people do to clean line?

Ralph and Lisa Cutter. California School of Flyfishing http:www/flyline.com  /v/                             /v/

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what is the best way to clean line?  I use Wilson Creek the night before I go Fishing.  I can not handle my line not flowing through the rod when I am mending a drift.  What do other people do to clean line?

By default, I use Glide.  It’s all the two local shops sell. Does anyone still sell the "Greased Lightening" line cleaner?  I don’t even see it in the catalogs anymore.

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I have been using that Scientific Anglers stuff.  It has a small cleaning pad and then some goop to put on the line.  It seems to work very well although the cleaning pads get dirty very quickly.  BTW, the Orvis line cleaning kit is exactly the same as the Scientific Anglers one. MikeH

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what is the best way to clean line?  I use Wilson Creek the night before I go Fishing.  I can not handle my line not flowing through the rod when I am mending a drift.  What do other people do to clean line? By default, I use Glide.  It’s all the two local shops sell. Does anyone still sell the "Greased Lightening" line cleaner?  I don’t even see it in the catalogs anymore.

There is some new stuff by Tiemco that is really slick. Russ Peak line dressing has been popular for years. Many use Mucilin paste. I would first wash the line in mild soap, Ivory liquid, and dry it, if it is really dirty. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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(sp??) on lines at times and it seems to work…but I’ve not checked with any of the line manufacturers about it.  Perhaps someone can tell me if I’m doing any damage to the lines with it.  It sure helps with my shooting line in terms of decreasing friction and adding to the length of my casts. Barry Brown

Barry and Others: Armor-All is a repolymerizer, and yes, does well to protect your Vinyl lines.  However, it is an emulsion and the emulsifiers stay on the line. This allows the stuff to be washed off the line when you use it in water.  A better formulation is the Blue Coral non-aqueous stuff with "Fomblin".  It repells water and helps you line float like a cork. Nothing shoots line like this stuff and nothing lasts longer. Jason Beary

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Further evidence that people like us that venture forth into the malodorous backwaters of the unmoderated usenet need to be on our toes for *anything*, and that maybe this is *not* a good place for the squeamish and children, someone has posted a nekkid .jpg in the fishing pictures group.   Someday, the usenet will sport a web-page like rating system, but until then, please consider the neighborhood you are driving into… Just a warning… TimW Of course, one could argue that this is a pic showing the source of fly tying materials for the "Hairy Mary".

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TimW Of course, one could argue that this is a pic showing the source of fly tying materials for the "Hairy Mary".

Well, at least you made your post fly-tying related.  Just be glad it wasn’t a related photograph showing the source for Tup’s Indispensible. *<|:-#)=-   (Santa Smiley) -Clyde

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someone has posted a nekkid .jpg in the fishing pictures group. Have you reported it to net.abuse.*?

No, but I will… TimW

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someone has posted a nekkid .jpg in the fishing pictures group.   Have you reported it to net.abuse.*?

Unfortunately, that’ll be akin to blowing against the wind… The professional spam artists (how’s that for an oxymoron?) seek out groups with "binaries" as part of the name and bombard them with ads for their porn sites. Get used to it – it’ll only get worse as the group propagates around Usenet… Cheers! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.       Alpha Server Engineering < < Parker Street Campus            Maynard, Massachusetts   < <        Charter Member of "Curmudgeons Unlimited"       < <<<<<<<<<<<< AMA 548313 <<<<<<<<<<<< Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely             to be shared by my employer, etc…

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: Have you reported it to net.abuse.*? : Unfortunately, that’ll be akin to blowing against the wind… : The professional spam artists (how’s that for an oxymoron?) seek out groups : with "binaries" as part of the name and bombard them with ads for their porn : sites. Get used to it – it’ll only get worse as the group propagates around : Usenet… Which is one reason I hate GUI newsreaders. All they do is allow stupid people to abuse the newsgroups. Even the binaries newsgroups had little trouble before Netscape and others like it allowed you to view pictures directly from the newsgroups. USENET predates the internet but if things keep up like this USENET will soon be just a minor website. It sucks. BiNM

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For some reason I got a notice that said this group has been deleted?  Does it still exist? Pete – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – someone has posted a nekkid .jpg in the fishing pictures group.   Have you reported it to net.abuse.*?

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Can any of you kind folks give me some tips for "power baits" for fishing in SW Ontario?  We’ll be on Clay Lake along the Wabigoon R. fishing mostly for Walleyes, Pike and Bass. I know the basics, Rapalas, yellow jigs, but what type of fishing is interesting and different? What rigs & colors etc. can be sucessful? I’ll be trying to impress/outfish the curmudgeon fatherinlaw so I am truly in need! Thanks Chad

If you really want something "interesting and different" and impress your "curmudgeon fatherinlaw" try fly fishing. When I started fly fishing, it was in similar circumstances. I knew nothing about it, just bought a cheap sporting goods store outfit and a book. When we arrived at the rental house we were staying at in the Sierra Nevadas, I sat down with the book to setup the outfit, tie the knots, etc., taking flak all the time ("You’ll never catch anything","You don’t know what you’re doing", etc.). To make a long story short, I caught a modest (10 in.) brown trout on my second cast. In this case it was my father who was with me, but was he impressed! Fly fishing has become my life long pursuit ever since. Darryl

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snip.. different? What rigs & colors etc. can be sucessful? I’ll be trying to impress/outfish the curmudgeon fatherinlaw so I am truly in need! Thanks Chad If you really want something "interesting and different" and impress your "curmudgeon fatherinlaw" try fly fishing. When I started fly

snip.. my father who was with me, but was he impressed! Fly fishing has become my life long pursuit ever since. Darryl

No chance there. The man built me my fly rod! A splendid 4 wt. for the panfish and scattered trout that can be had here in the Midwest. Meanwhile he "flies" into Central American looking for Bonefish and Tarpon.  I love the magical energy of a fine rod and an artful cast, not to mention the explosion of fishy energy after that minute fly floats down to kiss the water’s surface. — chad

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Stuff Deleted… No chance there. The man built me my fly rod! A splendid 4 wt. for the panfish and scattered trout that can be had here in the Midwest. Meanwhile he "flies" into Central American looking for Bonefish and Tarpon.  

Sounds like your trip should be to a fly fishing lodge, then. Not to a place where you would be looking for hot colors for jigs, etc. Seriously, there are so many opportunities for quality fly fishing where you are going, why waste time on anything else? I love the magical energy of a fine rod and an artful cast, not to mention the explosion of fishy energy after that minute fly floats down to kiss the water’s surface. — chad

Couldn’t have said it better myself! Darryl

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  raps.   But in 3 weeks I will be on my anual trip to Kenora (dryden)   and shall give it a fair shot,..I’ll let you know how it goes there,   but right now I will mainly using my power baits  :)

I too will be heading up there in now about just approximately 11 days, 2 hours and some 55 minutes (moreorless). Can any of you kind folks give me some tips for "power baits" for fishing in SW Ontario?  We’ll be on Clay Lake along the Wabigoon R. fishing mostly for Walleyes, Pike and Bass. I know the basics, Rapalas, yellow jigs, but what type of fishing is interesting and different? What rigs & colors etc. can be sucessful? I’ll be trying to impress/outfish the curmudgeon fatherinlaw so I am truly in need! Thanks Chad

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DS Hello Marv (fellow BBS member here On Rose)  :)    I would have to agree 100%, I first saw the spoons in Cabelas   catalogue and thought they would be the ‘cats as*’ BUT upon buying one   (silver/blue/red) my hopes went WAY DOWN, plastic body, THICK/DULL   hook, not like the normal gamagatsu that are on normal rapala’s   I have yet to fish with one, so how knows, but if a lure does not   ‘feel’ good chances are I will not tie it on.    what I was hoping it   would be good for was in the Fall at Port Hope (ganaraska) at the pier   as the slamon and trout go crazy for the silver/blue/red rattling   raps.   But in 3 weeks I will be on my anual trip to Kenora (dryden)   and shall give it a fair shot,..I’ll let you know how it goes there,   but right now I will mainly using my power baits  :)   It’s close to a Johnson Silver Minnow but the body shape is slightly different. With the Johnson always used a Pork trailer, think the addition might change the "action" of said spoon (just a guess).  My Salmon Fishing Partner is going to open his swimming pool next weekend, alas I won’t be able to wet the Rap. Minnow as I’ll be on the water for the opening weekend of Walleye this coming Saturday with my Bassin’ Partner.  The Polaroid is loaded and hopefully will get some go pictures, and if we hit into the "deuce" sized Walleyes then a Shore Lunch might be on the Schedule.   Regards    Marv  *   —    RoseReader 2.10  P001256 Entered at [ROSE]    RoseMail 2.50 : RoseNet<=Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285

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