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My wife arranged a ten day trip to the British Virgin Islands to combine some flyfishing with a 25th anniversary tropic island getaway.

i can’t believe you didn’t invite us….. <g –waldo…. your excitement is contagious….

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Outstanding trip reports and great photo’s!! Gary

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Good one, tripper.  A most appreciated report on a cold, wet Sunday in autumnal Melbourne.  I’m particularly please dto hear the SO seems to have had a good time as well … give’s me hope  :-) Steve

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fwiw, I posted a couple of shots on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing, one of a bone being brought to hand, followed by the obligatory hero shot.

Sounds like a great trip. Thanks for the report. TL MC

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[snip] – fishing the flats for bones is just a riot. I might be horribly spoiled by the experience. Only time will tell. I might try fishing the Rapid with a 2 weight to simulate the experience

Try fishing for stripers with a 2wt

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fwiw, I posted a couple of shots on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing, one of a bone being brought to hand,

Fabulous report. I can sense your excitement. Jealous as Hell! Willi

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fwiw, I posted a couple of shots on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing, one of a /daytripper (Could’ve fooled me – I thought we were dead meat! =8-O

Daytripper, Thanx for the report. Adding it to my deranged fantasy folder today!  Best Wishes. DaveMohnsen Denver

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fwiw, I posted a couple of shots on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing, one of a bone being brought to hand, followed by the obligatory hero shot. My wife arranged a ten day trip to the British Virgin Islands to combine some flyfishing with a 25th anniversary tropic island getaway.  We started at Anegada Reef, as I did half-days fishing the mangroves for bones with Dave "Clinton" Vanterpool, an outstanding guide and local legend. We followed that with a full week on Tortola, mixing tarpon fishing with beaching, sailing, and snorkeling. In short, it was a freakin’ blast of a trip – e-ticket stuff all the way. We came back with tans and smiles – and a couple of wicked line burns and sore knuckles. Anegada Island has roughly 120 people living on it at any given time. Total – including roughly 30 tourists spread out between the one hotel and the camping areas. There’s virtually nothing there from an economic view, save for the Anegada Reef Hotel where we stayed, a couple of beach bars on the north side, a couple of campgrounds, and a tiny general store. And the airport, of course. It is best known for diving opportunities on the 300 shipwrecks surrounding the reef, while the outstanding bonefish fishery is still just being "discovered" by outsiders. Thus I was the only person bonefishing while we were there. Which is simply unbelievable, given the size and quality of the flats, until one remembers where these flats are: surrounding an island with all of 120 people on it, somewhere in the BVI. If this place was in the Keys, it would be overrun. Bonefish are *unbelievably* strong – it is said a 16" bonefish has three times the strength and endurance of a 24" trout. I don’t doubt it – though none of the bones I caught was anywhere near that small. Even the runt of the trip was over 24 inches long and a good 6 pounds – and that fish stripped out over an honest 180 yards of line and backing on its first run against a strong drag. The largest rainbows I’ve ever caught couldn’t put anywhere near that kind of show even on a mere five weight rod – but these fish were putting the full flex on an 8 weight (a Winston BL5 5pc – lord, what a sweet sweet rod this one is, too). All the fish were caught on white Gotchas, cast to tailing bones and then stripped back with short strokes. After tying a bunch of Charlies, Crab Puffs, Velcro Crabs, Gotchas, and small Clousers, in at least three colors (white, pink, and green) I started and ended with white Gotchas. That is, after I realized the flies weren’t heavy enough relying on the hooks (Mustad 34007 #6 SS) and bead eyes alone, and wrapping on a chunk of copper wire scavenged from a wrecked truck. Like flipping a switch, once I added that weight to the Gotchas, the only way I’d miss a fish was to line it. Once I hooked up with a bone, the fish was off for the proverbial sunset. I was using 12# Mirage for tippet, and set the drag for the better part of that, putting a fine bend in the Winston, and could only hold on for dear life and be ready to gain line when the opportunity arose, all the while trying to keep the fish out of the mangroves and away from coral chunks. Wild. Most of the casts were between 60 and 80 feet out. Sometimes the bones would eat the fly after only a couple of short strips, other times they’d follow the fly halfway back to the boat before taking the fly. Getting rid of 40 feet of loose line in a hurry isn’t all that easy – I got a couple of good scorch marks for my slower efforts (and they hurted so good Anyway…I can’t say enough about that whole experience. It was a total gas that won’t be forgotten soon. The Anegada Reef Hotel is a simple but comfortable place with great food, a wicked beach bar, and is operated by wonderful people. And Dave Vanterpool kept me in fish and in stitches each day – he’s a funny sonofabitch who knows the flats with his eyes closed, and will keep you on bones for as long as your arms can take the pressure. Wrapping it all up: – fishing the flats for bones is just a riot. I might be horribly spoiled by the experience. Only time will tell. I might try fishing the Rapid with a 2 weight to simulate the experience – the Winston BL5 is simply a wonderful rod. This 5 piece casts as nicely as any two piece 7-9 weight I’ve ever used, and it is post-911 airline friendly. It might be cold to state it, but Winston was sitting in the catbird seat on 910. – spotting random bonefish is an acquired skill, but it isn’t that hard to acquire that skill. Good Polaroids are a must, and side shades help, imo. Looking for tails is obvious, looking for plumes of silt a little less so, but beyond that you’re looking for glints and moving shadows. But by the middle of the second morning I often spotted a fish before my guide saw it. – Don’t dismiss the 6 inch deep puddles along the shore. I missed what was probably a ten pound bone by striking too soon on my first shot of the first day. That fish was feeding with the upper third of its body out of the water, damnedest thing I’ve seen in a while. If I had hooked it I’d probably be wishing I’d brought the camera that day… – the Reddington AL9/10 stood up to as much abuse as I could give it. My reeling arm is still sore. The reel is fine. The drag system is the bees knees. – you *can* land a twin engine low-wing aircraft laden with 10 people and gear on a 2500 foot runway, and take off from the same field later. Really! I swear to God! Often! /daytripper (Could’ve fooled me – I thought we were dead meat! =8-O

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Another good reason NOT to carry your logbook:  If you are ramp-checked, the FAA rep can ask to see your log book.  If you don’t have it with you, you can just say so.

Unless you’re hiding something, why would you NOT want the FAA guy to look at your logbook? We were ramped a few months ago, and it was a complete non-event.   He looked at the airworthiness certificate, my Private certificate, my medical, and wished us a fond farewell.   It took all of about 90 seconds. If he had asked for my logbook (which lives in the seatback pocket, right along with the POH), he would have been welcome to peruse it as well. You guys gotta stop being so paranoid about these FAA guys — they’re not Nazis, ya know! — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Warrior N33431

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Jay, Because other than to show currency for the flight, he has no right to ask for it.  I’m not paranoid about the FAA, I get along well with most all of them I meet.  But I still won’t just give them anything they demand on a ramp check either if they have no right to see it.  Your freedoms get eroded in your attitude first.  Just one guy’s opinion. — John Stricker "I didn’t spend all these years getting to the top of the food chain just to be a vegetarian"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Another good reason NOT to carry your logbook:  If you are ramp-checked, the FAA rep can ask to see your log book.  If you don’t have it with you, you can just say so. Unless you’re hiding something, why would you NOT want the FAA guy to look at your logbook? We were ramped a few months ago, and it was a complete non-event.   He looked at the airworthiness certificate, my Private certificate, my medical, and wished us a fond farewell.   It took all of about 90 seconds. If he had asked for my logbook (which lives in the seatback pocket, right along with the POH), he would have been welcome to peruse it as well. You guys gotta stop being so paranoid about these FAA guys — they’re not Nazis, ya know! — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Warrior N33431

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I usually take my logbook with me when I go flying.  I’m careful with it, but probably not careful enough.  I’ve been thinking…. What happens if someone steals my flightbag with my logbook? What happens if I drop my logbook in a puddle and all the inked entries run and become unreadable? What happens if my dog eats it? What happens if I just lose the damn thing? ….and in a related question…. When was the last time you backed up your hard drive? Is it appropriate to "back up" your logbook?  How about your medical, your license?  What do you do to safeguard your logbook?  If it’s lost of damaged, what does that mean?  Should you Xerox you logbook it once in a while as a backup?  In the event of a logbook disaster, would a photocopy mean anything? Just curious.  Thanks.

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What happens if someone steals my flightbag with my logbook? What happens if I drop my logbook in a puddle and all the inked entries run and become unreadable? What happens if my dog eats it? What happens if I just lose the damn thing?

It’s a hassle, but not fatal. Is it appropriate to "back up" your logbook?  

I do.  For one, my logbook sits locked in a fire resistant box at home. It never goes anywhere unless absolutely necessary, which isn’t often anymore. How about your medical, your license?

Don’t worry about those.  Okie City can fax you a temporary replacement in no time, and that’s good until they send you a permanent replacement.  A photocopy won’t fly, though. In the event of a logbook disaster, would a photocopy mean anything?

Yes, it would. Larry Fransson Pilots are just plane people with a different air about them.

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Hi David keep in mind the regs only require you to show proof of recency, or, required time for a rating. That includes the flight review and or endorsements. If you are a rated pilot, you do not have to carry your logbook with you. In fact, I advise against it. Some may argue the point of copies, but in absence of any "written" record, what can you produce to show experience or recency? The time you show when you get your physical? I do know of one pilot that used that to show time for insurance purposes. I found an old logbook that dated back into the mid-50’s with the usual student pilot observations of how smooth a landing was, or a place with great burgers, or whatever. To lose one that records your early days as a pilot is a real loss beyond value. One of my entries recorded the first moon landing and my feelings. Another recorded the first dead stick landing of the shuttle. My first spin, my first X-C, not sure where I was over uncharted territory in the Amazon back in the early 60’s, getting caught in a huge sand storm in the Bayuda Desert in Egypt, recording some of the rich and famous I had on board on different flights. I also have quite a few temporary licenses taped into the logs that date back into the 50’s. Fond memories all….well most are!! So, leave the book at home if you don’t have to carry it along. And, if anyone ever asks you to give it up for FAA action or something similar, DON’T DO IT lest you never see it again. At that point you let an aviation attorney take care of the nuances. Remember, whatever you put in that logbook can be declared a legal document and while it can show you complied, it may also send them on a fishing expedition and hammer you for something stupid and unrelated! Been there-done that…. Fly Safe and remember..deny, Deny DENY!! FlyinRock – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I usually take my logbook with me when I go flying.  I’m careful with it, but probably not careful enough.  I’ve been thinking…. What happens if someone steals my flightbag with my logbook? What happens if I drop my logbook in a puddle and all the inked entries run and become unreadable? What happens if my dog eats it? What happens if I just lose the damn thing? ….and in a related question…. When was the last time you backed up your hard drive? Is it appropriate to "back up" your logbook?  How about your medical, your license?  What do you do to safeguard your logbook?  If it’s lost of damaged, what does that mean?  Should you Xerox you logbook it once in a while as a backup?  In the event of a logbook disaster, would a photocopy mean anything? Just curious.  Thanks.

Before you buy.

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Use pages in the back of your logbook to record BFR/IRCC and other such currency flights/training.  Don’t carry your logbook…if ramped, copy and send only those pages to FAA. Government is too big and has developed a bad attitude about our rights, it is time for everybody to demand full liberty in our personal affairs.  Two guys at least have similar opinion. — Jim Macklin

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jay, Because other than to show currency for the flight, he has no right to ask for it.  I’m not paranoid about the FAA, I get along well with most all of them I meet.  But I still won’t just give them anything they demand on a ramp check either if they have no right to see it.  Your freedoms get eroded in your attitude first.  Just one guy’s opinion. — John Stricker "I didn’t spend all these years getting to the top of the food chain just to be a vegetarian" Another good reason NOT to carry your logbook:  If you are ramp-checked, the FAA rep can ask to see your log book.  If you don’t have it with you, you can just say so. Unless you’re hiding something, why would you NOT want the FAA guy to look at your logbook? We were ramped a few months ago, and it was a complete non-event.   He looked at the airworthiness certificate, my Private certificate, my medical, and wished us a fond farewell.   It took all of about 90 seconds. If he had asked for my logbook (which lives in the seatback pocket, right along with the POH), he would have been welcome to peruse it as well. You guys gotta stop being so paranoid about these FAA guys — they’re not Nazis, ya know! — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Warrior N33431

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Is it appropriate to "back up" your logbook?

Absolutely.  I XEROXed mine.  The FAA is pretty lenient about reconstructing lost logbooks.  A XEROX will do fine.  They’ve let people account for time based on old FBO records and receipts. How about your medical, your license?

I keep these in my wallet.  Lost my wallet once.   Phone the FAA and they will FAX you temporaries.  Getting my Driver’s License replaced was harder (not to mention calling all the credit card companies).

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medical, your license?  What do you do to safeguard your logbook?  If it’s lost of damaged, what does that mean?  Should you Xerox you logbook it once in a while as a backup?  In the event of a logbook disaster, would a photocopy mean anything?

Yep, it would. I keep a copy of my logbook on excel, and also have scans of my logbook. Every few months I burn them into a CD and stick them in the bank safety deposit box. Cheap insurance…… -dave

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What happens if someone steals my flightbag with my logbook? What happens if I drop my logbook in a puddle and all the inked entries run and become unreadable? What happens if my dog eats it? What happens if I just lose the damn thing? All good reasons NOT to carry your logbook. Why would you want to? The only time I take it with me is on vacation – in case I want to rent an airplane.

Another good reason NOT to carry your logbook:  If you are ramp-checked, the FAA rep can ask to see your log book.  If you don’t have it with you, you can just say so. == Do not reply to "from" address.  (Sorry, this is an anti-spam measure.) ==

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What happens if someone steals my flightbag with my logbook? What happens if I drop my logbook in a puddle and all the inked entries run and become unreadable? What happens if my dog eats it? What happens if I just lose the damn thing? All good reasons NOT to carry your logbook. Why would you want to? The only time I take it with me is on vacation – in case I want to rent an airplane. Another good reason NOT to carry your logbook:  If you are ramp-checked, the FAA rep can ask to see your log book.  If you don’t have it with you, you can just say so.

If you DO have it with you, you can likewise say no. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -== Do not reply to "from" address.  (Sorry, this is an anti-spam measure.) ==

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I scan my logbook pages and burn the images onto cdroms as well. More than one cdrom too, copies stored in multiple locations (at home + at office). Each time a fill up a new page in the book, a couple of new cdroms will get created. I plan to copy partial pages to floppies kept with the cdroms (again, redundant copies since a floppy can get zapped too easily). Also  I keep copies of all images on my hard drive on my PC too. My PC stays in a state of perpetual backup. I use a hardware mirroring FastTrak-66 disk drive interface card and have a pair of identical, mirrored disk drives in my pc. Nothing beats having mirrored disks in case one fails. Been there, done that and the cost of the card $75 plus a second 20GB disk $150 is very cheap insurance, besides backing up 20GB of disk contents to tape every night is too much of a hassle. About once a month, all my critical files on the mirrored hard drive pair get copied to cdroms too. DB_Wan_Kenobi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – your medical, your license?  What do you do to safeguard your logbook?  If it’s lost of damaged, what does that mean?  Should you Xerox you logbook it once in a while as a backup?  In the event of a logbook disaster, would a photocopy mean anything? Yep, it would. I keep a copy of my logbook on excel, and also have scans of my logbook. Every few months I burn them into a CD and stick them in the bank safety deposit box. Cheap insurance…… -dave

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Organizers make great logbooks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I usually take my logbook with me when I go flying.  I’m careful with it, but probably not careful enough.  I’ve been thinking…. What happens if someone steals my flightbag with my logbook? What happens if I drop my logbook in a puddle and all the inked entries run and become unreadable? What happens if my dog eats it? What happens if I just lose the damn thing? All good reasons NOT to carry your logbook. Why would you want to? The only time I take it with me is on vacation – in case I want to rent an airplane. Part of the checkout procedure usually involves checking regulatory recency and recent flight experience. ….and in a related question…. When was the last time you backed up your hard drive? Every night. I have a simple batch routine that tales all my data files, zips them up, and dumps them on a zip drive. I also have a computerized logbook, so that I have a "reliable record" in case I need to reconstruct my logbook.    (o)/       Denver, Colorado    o O o       www.midlifeflight.com       email? replace "spamaway" with "mkolber"

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I usually take my logbook with me when I go flying.  I’m careful with it, but probably not careful enough.  I’ve been thinking…. What happens if someone steals my flightbag with my logbook? What happens if I drop my logbook in a puddle and all the inked entries run and become unreadable? What happens if my dog eats it? What happens if I just lose the damn thing?

All good reasons NOT to carry your logbook. Why would you want to? The only time I take it with me is on vacation – in case I want to rent an airplane. Part of the checkout procedure usually involves checking regulatory recency and recent flight experience. ….and in a related question…. When was the last time you backed up your hard drive?

Every night. I have a simple batch routine that tales all my data files, zips them up, and dumps them on a zip drive. I also have a computerized logbook, so that I have a "reliable record" in case I need to reconstruct my logbook.     (o)/       Denver, Colorado     o O o       www.midlifeflight.com       email? replace "spamaway" with "mkolber"

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I recommend the following: 1) Don’t carry your logbook with you unless it’s absolutely necessary. There is no requirement for having your logbook along with you on most flights (unless you’re a Recreational Pilot).  Keep the logbook in a safe place at your home or office. 2) Make copies of any endorsements in the logbook.  i.e. Endorsements recommending you for checkrides and/or written tests.  Endorsements for operation of high performance airplane, complex airplane, tailwheel airplane, etc. This is a "just in case" measure, to protect you from loss of the logbook due to fire, theft, flood, etc.  It’s fairly simple if not easy to reconstruct the flying time in a logbook, but it can sometimes be impossible to replace the endorsements. 3) Use an "electronic logbook" as a backup for your hard copy log.  I have two separate computer logbooks in addition to my actual logbook(s), so if either is lost I can use the other to reconstruct.  NOTE – the computer logbook will not have the endorsements in it that the hard copy does.  See #2.  Another advantage of a computer log is that it’s easily searchable. When you need to know how much time you have in different categories/classes/types or even specific airplanes, a computer logbook can give you that info in seconds and can save you a bunch of hunting around in your paper logbook. 4) Have fun and fly safely! Joe Norris

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I usually take my logbook with me when I go flying.  I’m careful with it, but probably not careful enough.  I’ve been thinking…. What happens if someone steals my flightbag with my logbook? What happens if I drop my logbook in a puddle and all the inked entries run and become unreadable? What happens if my dog eats it? What happens if I just lose the damn thing? ….and in a related question…. When was the last time you backed up your hard drive? Is it appropriate to "back up" your logbook?  How about your medical, your license?  What do you do to safeguard your logbook?  If it’s lost of damaged, what does that mean?  Should you Xerox you logbook it once in a while as a backup?  In the event of a logbook disaster, would a photocopy mean anything? Just curious.  Thanks.

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 So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??Hell I bet dollars to donuts you were once a clueless newbie yourself you selfrighteous prig.

heh, heh, heh! Deer freezing in the headlights I can understand.  Deer seeking out the headlights leaves me somewhat bemused, not to mention the rather sorry state it leaves them in.  "Selfrighteous prig"?  Ouch!  If that is the best you can do for an insult you pathetic little cocksucker, you really ARE in the wrong place.  Hell, that wasn’t even amusing. Clueless newbie is a term rarely applied to anyone who comes in asking for information or anyone who pauses to introduce him or her self. Typically it is reserved for sanctimonious pieces of shit like yourself who have somehow gotten into their pointed little heads the idea that they need to come in here and clean up the joint.  Let me guess, you REALLY thought that by laying it on heavy like you did, you would force me to roll over and concede your moral and intellectual superiority, right?  The bad man would slink off in dismay and the usenet would live happily ever after, right?  I’ll bet you’ve got a spiffy collection of John Wayne and Gary Cooper movies, huh? If you had taken the time to acquaint yourself with the place you’d just walked into it might have caused you to have your head out of your ass long enough to get a bit of oxygen to what passes for your brain.  As a result it might have dawned on you that the thread you were responding to was somewhat tongue in cheek (not at all the same thing as having your entire skull firmly lodged BETWEEN your cheeks).   If you think MY attitude is offensive, just wait till one of the REAL assholes in here sinks his teeth into your sorry decrepit ass.  How to learn?  ASK A FUCKING QUESTION! At any rate, nice to have you aboard.  Stick around for a while; I suspect you will provide many hours of diversion.  And DO have a nice day asshole.    :) Wolfgang STILL the undefeated world champion Royal ROFFian Guardian Against Sanctimony!

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….Can you imagine there was the digital equivalent of a barfight over the definition of meniscus??

Oh come now Herman, that was hardly a barfight!  As I recall, it one of the more civilized, not to mention enlightening, discussions that has ever taken place among my esteemed brethren here.  Nary a harsh word was written.        :)

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Hey Wolfie, are you the selfrighteous prig or am I.  I’m confused?  I thought we were making fun of flamers.

Didn’t LaPlac call you a prig last year when he had that bad cold? — Charlie…

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Don, you’ll usually find what you need, if you can separate the wheat from the burning chaff.  Did you ask a question that got ignored or are you just being hypothetical?  Charlie,   Not takin it personal. I know a bit about the exasperation with clueless newbies and asking the same question 30 different ways.Just tryin to learn here. I admit at 50 it might take some learning but if I ask a question and get nothing back what has gone on?  Is my question so stupid that it is undeserving of an answer? Or is it just that the elite feel they don’t like clueless newbies ?

– Regards, Jeff Before you buy.

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 So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??Hell I bet dollars to donuts you were once a clueless newbie yourself you selfrighteous prig.

Innocence Abused. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Hey Wolfie, are you the selfrighteous prig or am I.  I’m confused?  I thought we were making fun of flamers.

Um, I believe that would be me Peter.  As I recall, you are the hapless Canuck.

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So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??Hell I bet dollars to donuts you were once a clueless newbie yourself you selfrighteous prig. — Don Thompson Zoomie(BushBug) ACA#3460 TLCB#335 Any Time, Any Place

Hey Wolfie, are you the selfrighteous prig or am I.  I’m confused?  I thought we were making fun of flamers. Peter

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Oh come now Herman, that was hardly a barfight!  As I recall, it one of the more civilized, not to mention enlightening, discussions that has ever taken place among my esteemed brethren here.  Nary a harsh word was written.    :)

Let’s pray for sanctuary from this sanctimony<g. — Charlie…

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[neat rant snipped] Wolfgang STILL the undefeated world champion Royal ROFFian Guardian Against Sanctimony!

Oh, OK you’re the selfrighteous prig.  Good, saves me the bother. Peter

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 So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??Hell I bet dollars to donuts you were once a clueless newbie yourself you selfrighteous prig. —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

Wow, this is too good to be true. A sanctimonious, name calling, self confessed, clueless newbie. OK, so who’s the funny man ? Which one of you clever assholes made this one up ? Opie ? RDean ? — Ken Fortenberry

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So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??Hell I bet dollars to donuts you were once a clueless newbie yourself you selfrighteous prig. — Don Thompson Zoomie(BushBug) ACA#3460 TLCB#335 Any Time, Any Place Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

You certainly know how to make an entrance.  Once you’ve saught medical treatment for your rectal-cranial inversion condition, please make yourself at home and enjoy the place. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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 Well,  Thanks both Herman and Charlie.   Er was than meniscus or maniscus?     grin —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

| Don, | It happens. Some questions are somehow not touched by anyone, while | other, most of the time completely unexpected and without any relation | to the original topic, change into threads that run for weeks and even | turn into mudslinging contests. Can you imagine there was the digital | equivalent of a barfight over the definition of meniscus?? Don’t ask, | you might stir up the, ehmm.. nevermind. | And as for elite.. there is no such thing as elite over here. Just stick | around, and don’t hesitate to ask a question. | | Have fun, Herman | |

| |  Charlie, | |   Not takin it personal. I know a bit about the exasperation with clueless | newbies and asking the same question 30 different ways.Just tryin to learn | here. I admit at 50 it might take some learning but if I ask a question and | get nothing back what has gone on?  Is my question so stupid that it is | undeserving of an answer? Or is it just that the elite feel they don’t like | clueless newbies ? | | — |  Don Thompson |  Zoomie(BushBug) |  ACA#3460 |  TLCB#335 |  Any Time, Any Place | |  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air. | | | | Charlie, | | | | In asia where they drive on the wrong side of the road I had some help | | before getting run over.Wish it were so here. | | | | I didn’t and almost got hit the 1st time or two, but I figured it out | | pretty quick on my own. They don’t much worry about hitting | | pedestrians over there, especially American ones. I didn’t take it | | personally, though. FWIW. | | — | | Charlie… | | — | | Cheers, Herman | Herman Nijland | Daytime webmaster | Lifetime flyfisher

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So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??

Look both ways before stepping out in traffic? — Charlie…

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 Charlie,  In asia where they drive on the wrong side of the road I had some help before getting run over.Wish it were so here. —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

| | So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude | offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to | flame?? | | Look both ways before stepping out in traffic? | — | Charlie…

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 Charlie,   Not takin it personal. I know a bit about the exasperation with clueless newbies and asking the same question 30 different ways.Just tryin to learn here. I admit at 50 it might take some learning but if I ask a question and get nothing back what has gone on?  Is my question so stupid that it is undeserving of an answer? Or is it just that the elite feel they don’t like clueless newbies ? —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

| | Charlie, | | In asia where they drive on the wrong side of the road I had some help | before getting run over.Wish it were so here. | | I didn’t and almost got hit the 1st time or two, but I figured it out | pretty quick on my own. They don’t much worry about hitting | pedestrians over there, especially American ones. I didn’t take it | personally, though. FWIW. | — | Charlie…

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if I ask a question and get nothing back what has gone on?  Is my question so stupid that it is undeserving of an answer? Or is it just that the elite feel they don’t like clueless newbies ?

Maybe nobody knows the answer? — Charlie…

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Charlie, In asia where they drive on the wrong side of the road I had some help before getting run over.Wish it were so here.

I didn’t and almost got hit the 1st time or two, but I figured it out pretty quick on my own. They don’t much worry about hitting pedestrians over there, especially American ones. I didn’t take it personally, though. FWIW. — Charlie…

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So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??Hell I bet dollars to donuts you were once a clueless newbie yourself you selfrighteous prig.

Actually, clueless newbies who are polite are taken pity on and helped to a wealth of comprehensive fly-fishing knowledge that spans the globe. Clueless newbies with a bad attitude are despised and flamed.   It’s a pretty simple distinction actually.   I’m sure you’ll see the difference pretty soon. Joe F. Newbie once, clueless never.

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Don, It happens. Some questions are somehow not touched by anyone, while other, most of the time completely unexpected and without any relation to the original topic, change into threads that run for weeks and even turn into mudslinging contests. Can you imagine there was the digital equivalent of a barfight over the definition of meniscus?? Don’t ask, you might stir up the, ehmm.. nevermind. And as for elite.. there is no such thing as elite over here. Just stick around, and don’t hesitate to ask a question. Have fun, Herman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Charlie,   Not takin it personal. I know a bit about the exasperation with clueless newbies and asking the same question 30 different ways.Just tryin to learn here. I admit at 50 it might take some learning but if I ask a question and get nothing back what has gone on?  Is my question so stupid that it is undeserving of an answer? Or is it just that the elite feel they don’t like clueless newbies ? —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air. | | Charlie, | | In asia where they drive on the wrong side of the road I had some help | before getting run over.Wish it were so here. | | I didn’t and almost got hit the 1st time or two, but I figured it out | pretty quick on my own. They don’t much worry about hitting | pedestrians over there, especially American ones. I didn’t take it | personally, though. FWIW. | — | Charlie…

–         Cheers, Herman         Herman Nijland         Daytime webmaster         Lifetime flyfisher

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 Pretty good list but we’re still missing a few.  I can’t find you anywhere.  There were no pictures of a taxonomists anywhere, but can I still send you that bow by UPS to get stuffed?

Stuff it!    Oops, I meant; stuff it?  

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 So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??Hell I bet dollars to donuts you were once a clueless newbie yourself you selfrighteous prig.

Umm, excuse me for interrupting, but you spelled "pig" wrong. — Regards, Jeff Before you buy.

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…[stuff] —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

p.s. Love your sig line – who designed it for you, Steve Z.? — Regards, Jeff Before you buy.

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As an erstwhile taxonomist I have always been somewhat distressed by the lack of fine distinction made in describing the various individuals we encounter here.  The recent "Let me know what you think" thread is a case in point; spammer, troll, clueless newbie, and asshole simply do not suffice for differentiating among the multifarious life forms which frequent this pond.  to help remedy this situation I offer the following: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html Let the games begin!

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As an erstwhile taxonomist I have always been somewhat distressed by the lack of fine distinction made in describing the various individuals we encounter here.  The recent "Let me know what you think" thread is a case in point; spammer, troll, clueless newbie, and asshole simply do not suffice for differentiating among the multifarious life forms which frequent this pond.  to help remedy this situation I offer the following: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html Let the games begin!

 Pretty good list but we’re still missing a few.  I can’t find you anywhere.  There were no pictures of a taxonomists anywhere, but can I still send you that bow by UPS to get stuffed? Peter

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 So clueless newbies are to be despised ?? Being one I find your attitude offensive.How else are we to learn if folks like you are so soon to flame??Hell I bet dollars to donuts you were once a clueless newbie yourself you selfrighteous prig. —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

| | As an erstwhile taxonomist I have always been somewhat distressed by the | lack of fine distinction made in describing the various individuals we | encounter here.  The recent "Let me know what you think" thread is a | case in point; spammer, troll, clueless newbie, and asshole simply do | not suffice for differentiating among the multifarious life forms which | frequent this pond.  to help remedy this situation I offer the | following: | | http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html | | Let the games begin! | |  Pretty good list but we’re still missing a few.  I can’t find you | anywhere.  There were no pictures of a taxonomists anywhere, but can I | still send you that bow by UPS to get stuffed? | | Peter | |

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A summarized quote from an article in Audubon: "The federal government is proposing that Maine’s Atlantic salmon be protected under the Endangered Species Act. In 1999 less than 100 spawning females returned to the eight rivers targeted in the proposal and those were the Country’s best remaining runs of wild Atlantic salmon. Maine’s governor Angus King and a congressional delegation from Maine take issue with the claim that Maine salmon are a distinct subspecies. They feel that an ESA listing would harm the blueberry and salmon aquaculture industries." Even if the salmon don’t ultimately get ESA protection, maybe just the "threat" of it will improve the situation. In Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming, just the consideration of putting some of our native trout species under the ESA, prompted the states’ to step up their efforts in restoring these populations, seemingly to try and curtail the ESA designation. Willi

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A summarized quote from an article in Audubon: "The federal government is proposing that Maine’s Atlantic salmon be protected under the Endangered Species Act. In 1999 less than 100 spawning females returned to the eight rivers targeted in the proposal and those were the Country’s best remaining runs of wild Atlantic salmon. Maine’s governor Angus King and a congressional delegation from Maine take issue with the claim that Maine salmon are a distinct subspecies. They feel that an ESA listing would harm the blueberry and salmon aquaculture industries." Even if the salmon don’t ultimately get ESA protection, maybe just the "threat" of it will improve the situation. In Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming, just the consideration of putting some of our native trout species under the ESA, prompted the states’ to step up their efforts in restoring these populations, seemingly to try and curtail the ESA designation.

hope this isn’t considered raining on the esa parade, but i have yet to see any meaningful reforms due to the esa in the northwest.  the powers that be, inclusing those within NMFS, seem to be fighting harder and harder every year to maintain the status quo, except for those sport fisheries… those must be closed first because they have the most impact (add heavy dose of sarcasm to last sentence <G) we’re starting to get some inklings that things may be changing, but hell, chinook on the snake river have been listed for an awful long time to just be finally doing something. if it’s true that only 100 female atlantics were in 8 rivers, i’m amazed that they aren’t covered under the esa.  looks like maine’s salmon are on cruise control towards extinction. chris

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I’ll conceived IMHO Here’s the facts I’m aware of. 1. Atlantic Salmon are not endangered as a species, Maine has no distinct species or subspecies of Salmon it’s just the run of the mill salmo salar 2. The runs have depleted over the past few years, despite the improvement to all the hydro projects to include downstream access – i.e.: no more cut bait from salmon returning to the sea. 3.  With the number of fish heading out due to stocking, and some limited natural reproduction,  it’s obvious to me the problem is NOT in the rivers of Maine but off the coast of Maine, this proposal will not get rid of the Russian and Japanese fishing fleets off our coast. (I do not claim this to be the entire problem, but when Canada quit netting salmon off their coast the runs improved). Overall fishing in the gulf of Maine is bad and getting worse. Giant factory ships under foreign flags sit there year round, I do not believe this has no impact. 4. Atlantic’s were placed on C&R 2 years ago to see if this helped, it takes 5 years for this to begin to show improvement or failure (for fish to return from the sea). 5. TU and Audubon who pushed for the C&R reg change have declared the program a failure, 3 years before any evidence pro or con can be produced 6. If ESA listing is approved on the rivers so designated agriculture and aquaculture will take a second seat. This could have an impact on Maine which has lagged the rest of the country in this age of economic growth. The Governor and the reps are just doing their jobs here. 7. The State of Maine has spent millions of dollars over the past 10+ years attempting to restore the salmon runs, it hasn’t worked. ESA listing doesn’t show much promise because the root cause of the depletion hasn’t been identified. Audubon needs to do some research before they attempt to impose a "solution". 8. The removal of the Edwards dam in Augusta may improve the virtually non-existent run in the Kennebec, despite the small numbers of fish in the Kennebec it’s not on Audubon’s list. The Kennebec once was home to the largest runs recorded in Maine and could be again given time to recover. These runs disappeared within years of Edwards construction. 9. ESA listing will more than likely cause these rivers to be closed to all angling regardless of the species targeted or so I’m told by the US F&W biologist locally. 10. Those numbers are not the same as what’s being touted here locally, I’ll see if I can find the website with the info. Also it’s TU and Audubon who are petitioning the Feds for the listing, it’s not a proposal from the Feds as far as I know (yet) We’d all love to have great runs of Atlantic’s, there is nothing finer than a 10lb salmon leaping out of the water on your fly, been there, done that. This proposal is premature and threatens the livelihood of some hardworking folks here in Maine. Audubon needs to back their claims with research, and they have yet to do that. Flyfish – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A summarized quote from an article in Audubon: "The federal government is proposing that Maine’s Atlantic salmon be protected under the Endangered Species Act. In 1999 less than 100 spawning females returned to the eight rivers targeted in the proposal and those were the Country’s best remaining runs of wild Atlantic salmon. Maine’s governor Angus King and a congressional delegation from Maine take issue with the claim that Maine salmon are a distinct subspecies. They feel that an ESA listing would harm the blueberry and salmon aquaculture industries." Even if the salmon don’t ultimately get ESA protection, maybe just the "threat" of it will improve the situation. In Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming, just the consideration of putting some of our native trout species under the ESA, prompted the states’ to step up their efforts in restoring these populations, seemingly to try and curtail the ESA designation. Willi

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I haven’t followed it in the last couple of weeks, but have the impression that ESA enactment is a done deal. Governor King’s complaint is that it’s bit premature: the Feds gave their blessing to a 5 year plan put into place by the State, and 2 years later came back with the Big Hammer. It’s a rather complex situation with no single factor bearing the brunt of the blame, but there’s little argument that the regions that are going to get hit the hardest economically are the same ones that only recently saw their unemployment levels dip below 10% for the first time in 10 or 15 years. Despite opinions to the contrary, the salmon have lots of support, whereas the unemployed have only the government to turn to. Governor King and the State are suing to get access to the data on which the Feds based their decision. Odd that he should have to do that in the face of what is purported to be overwhelming evidence that the ESA needed enacting. The Penobscot had water temps in excess of 70 in the Bangor area last season due to regionwide drought, but it won’t matter this year, the anglers get to take a by, for at least this year and for as long as some steadily employed people from another part of the country deem it. The whole thing still smells a little fishy to me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A summarized quote from an article in Audubon: "The federal government is proposing that Maine’s Atlantic salmon be protected under the Endangered Species Act. In 1999 less than 100 spawning females returned to the eight rivers targeted in the proposal and those were the Country’s best remaining runs of wild Atlantic salmon. Maine’s governor Angus King and a congressional delegation from Maine take issue with the claim that Maine salmon are a distinct subspecies. They feel that an ESA listing would harm the blueberry and salmon aquaculture industries." Even if the salmon don’t ultimately get ESA protection, maybe just the "threat" of it will improve the situation. In Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming, just the consideration of putting some of our native trout species under the ESA, prompted the states’ to step up their efforts in restoring these populations, seemingly to try and curtail the ESA designation. Willi

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6. If ESA listing is approved on the rivers so designated agriculture and aquaculture will take a second seat. This could have an impact on Maine which has lagged the rest of the country in this age of economic growth. The Governor and the reps are just doing their jobs here.

how much of an impact do you think the aquaculture industry is having on maine’s wild salmon?  are there large numbers of escapees?  aquaculture definetely puts me in a tough situation… on one hand the price of fish declines, which is good for wild fish (not economical to harvest them) but the commercial impact on fish remains to make the food the fish in pens eat.  plus the use of antibiotics and the possible spread of diseases from rearing in tight quarters are imo seriously bad things. seems you want no job losses from aquaculture, but don’t mind job losses among the commercial fishing fleet.  seems a strange position since both have negative effects, although one is obvious and the other will be forever argued by those pro-aquaculture folks. we’re facing much the same deal here in the northwest with probable job losses (never mind the loss of a $1 billion sportfishery from the loss of viable fisheries).  do you have any treaty tribes in maine, because as i read it, in the nw they will be the folks who have the final say due to the treaties superseding much of the state’s power. good luck finding a solution, i hope you can find one. chris

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6. If ESA listing is approved on the rivers so designated agriculture and aquaculture will take a second seat. This could have an impact on Maine which has lagged the rest of the country in this age of economic growth. The Governor and the reps are just doing their jobs here.

:how much of an impact do you think the aquaculture industry is having on maine’s wild salmon?  are there large numbers of escapees?  aquaculture definetely puts me in a tough situation… on one hand the price of fish declines, which is good for wild fish (not economical to harvest them) but the commercial impact on fish remains to make the food the fish in pens eat.  plus the use of antibiotics and the possible spread of diseases from rearing in tight quarters are imo seriously bad things.: The Maine and the New Brunswick salmon aquaculture industry are one in the same.  All of the salmon stocks in New Brunswick’s Bay of Fundy (with the exception of the Saint John River’s) are on the verge of extirpation.  The causitive link with aquaculture is suspected, because the stock declines commenced with the explosion of the industry in the early ’80’s.  The pathway(s) are not certain, but disease, genetic pollution and the concentration of predator theories cannot be dismissed.  The spread of the deadly Infectious Salmon Anemia (of European origin and imported in live fish to North America?) from cage escapees to wild salmon in one NB river has been demonstrated.  It has also been demonstrated that wild resident fish species, such as herring and harbour pollock are carriers of the disease. That said, a lot of the Down East salmon rivers of Maine are a long way from the aquaculture industry, and the pathway of its effect on them is hard to visualize.  The recovery of the eastern seaboard striped bass populations cannot be good for salmon, nor can exploding sea bird and seal populations.   At least one expert at Acadia University contends that it is foreign fishing fleets, which indiscriminatly fish for all species that are available, are the real culprits. JB :seems you want no job losses from aquaculture, but don’t mind job losses among the commercial fishing fleet.  seems a strange position since both have negative effects, although one is obvious and the other will be forever argued by those pro-aquaculture folks. we’re facing much the same deal here in the northwest with probable job losses (never mind the loss of a $1 billion sportfishery from the loss of viable fisheries).  do you have any treaty tribes in maine, because as i read it, in the nw they will be the folks who have the final say due to the treaties superseding much of the state’s power. good luck finding a solution, i hope you can find one. chris:

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just anwser these questens. how do you cast? how do you tell what line to use? how do you real in? how do you cast back out? what bate should i use? hi from payday8887

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just anwser these questens. how do you cast? how do you tell what line to use? how do you real in? how do you cast back out? what bate should i use? hi from payday8887

Please just go here and read up on it: http://www.myhost.com/flyfishing101/ Good luck. PK

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FINALLY, a helpful response to a perfectly innocent question. How can you guys respond so negatively to a beginner in a sport you care about. Lighten up and pitch in with the training or you’ll end up with another idiot on the bank spin casting. Sniping at a guy’s spelling on the internet, that’s a hoot!

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Don’t get too hung up on form.  Develop some basic techniques and then practice.

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[snip] Cat fishing there with a fly rod dead drifting a simple worm on the limestone shelves just below the dam at Waterville is probably some of the finest sport known. [snip] Is that really you, George – or is your shadow posting again? Didn’t you recently go ballistic over someone using fly gear with bait, George? Hypocrite, George??

_______HEY MAN, give me a little slack please. How can a boy be a hypocrite at the age of 12? George — MZ

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[snip] Cat fishing there with a fly rod dead drifting a simple worm on the limestone shelves just below the dam at Waterville is probably some of the finest sport known.

[snip] Is that really you, George – or is your shadow posting again? Didn’t you recently go ballistic over someone using fly gear with bait, George? Hypocrite, George??

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Steelhead in the Maumee River now?!!!  Along with the Walleye runs that have been showing up for the last 25 years?  I happen to know the Maumee River like no man alive.  I grew up on it.  Whitehouse, Waterville, Monclova, Ohio area.  Cat fishing there with a fly rod dead drifting a simple worm on the limestone shelves just below the dam at Waterville is probably some of the finest sport known.  Used to club carp there.  Has a lot of drop offs in order to get out there.  Ron Kinkaid in Whitehouse Ohio knows that area even better than me because he still fishes it and you forget things over the years.  The Maumee, named because a crying Indian baby at Turkey Foot Rock was whimpering ma-me, mau-me is how it was named . . . believe it or not.  All the General Anthony Wayne Signs are of my design and invention back in 1953 – 54.  The entire bust and hat and everything.  General Mad Anthony Wayne is the logo for Anthony Wayne High School where I graduated in 1954.  Went directly from H.S. into Flight Training for the U.S.A.F.  Was the first H.S. Graduate in the United States to qualify for fighter pilot school via Chanute Air Force Base in the United States.  I’m kind of proud of that Lee. Yah, I’m an old Buckeye Bronco from Ohio, you betcha!  Used to walk to school (Monclova Grade School) along Swan Creek everyday, even in the winter.  Loved it so.  Chuck Holloway still lives on that road along Swan Creek.  Good place to hunt Wood Duck when the season was in but now not so much as it is basically only a nesting area now, all the way down to Wreckerly Road and where the old county dump used to be, where I used to shoot rats with a .22 single shot.  Great sport!  Rat hunting. Lou Klewer, the ex-outdoor editor of the Toledo Blade lived on Wreckerly Road and I bought my first and most favorite rifle and caliber from Lou. A pre-64 Model 70 in the .220 Swift, which still is my most favorite of all calibers. If God said I had to settle for only one Rifle it would be the .220 Swift.  You betcha!  (Once again) Anyhow Lee, where in Toledo do you live?  I hope this post you aren’t bored with.  You just brought back memories.  I’ll be flying into Toledo Express this spring, a few more weeks or so away.  I have a brother living in Sylvania and Whitehouse, Ohio.  Plus, I always visit Ron Kinkaid.  He lives directly a cross the road from A.W. High School. Have to run Lee.  I knew there was something about you I liked. George Gehrke — MZ — MZ

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I am traveling to Last Chance, ID for the weekend.  I would appreciate any reports on conditions on the Henry’s Fork and the rivers in the park, especially the Firehole.  Suggestion for flies and sizes will be appreciated (I’ve been tying mostly small caddis dries, princes, and GRHE — sizes 16 & 18). Thanks. Jim Impara

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I am traveling to Last Chance, ID for the weekend.  I would appreciate any reports on conditions on the Henry’s Fork and the rivers in the park, especially the Firehole.  Suggestion for flies and sizes will be appreciated (I’ve been tying mostly small caddis dries, princes, and GRHE — sizes 16 & 18). Thanks. Jim ImparaHi Jim

The whole area is fishing good.  Your choice of flies are right on but add some BWO dries and emergers as well. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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If you are on the north end of town, or maybe even if you are not, call the St. Vrain Angler in Longmont, 651-6061. — Ken Clark Ft. Lupton, CO

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Hi Craig, There are several good shops in Denver including the Orvis shop in the downtown area close to the convestion center.  I’m not sure which street it’s on. Also consider contacting the Federation of Fly Fishers, they have an active club in your area called the High Plains Drifters.  You could learn more about them by calling the FFF Council President for that area. His name is Dan Turner, he’s a good guy, and he lives in Thornton.  His number is 1-303-457-4248. Good Luck Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Product Bozeman, MT (catalog avail)

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I’m looking for some recommendations on good fly fishing ships in Denver.

<SNIP If you’re on the South side of town there’s Angler’s All, on S. Sante Fe, Royal Stevens on Hampden, and Complete Angler on Arapahoe (?). They’re all pretty good, and if you get into R Stevens tell Steve I said Hi!. </chaz

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Hollenbaugh) writes: I’m looking for some recommendations on good fly fishing ships in Denver. I’m a beginner, and I’m looking for a reputable shop that has classes, trips, and most importantly people willing to help transform a novice spinning rod guy into a fly fisherman. TIA KRU Consulting Group                http://rainbow.rmii.com/~csh/kru

Craig,     Two shops come to mind:     The Colorado Angler on West Wadsworth at Nelson (I think).  They are nice people (just a touch of elitism, but only a touch).  The second is Joe Butler’s All Tackle west of the Westminister Mall.  Seems to be a nice place; lots of material.  (Some attitude, but it is tolerable.  It just depends)     There, of course, are others.  There is one on the south side, but I can’t remember the name which is probably the best of the lot. Unfortunately, I can’t remember the name.  If I do, I’ll get back to you.

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I’m looking for some recommendations on good fly fishing ships in Denver. I’m a beginner, and I’m looking for a reputable shop that has classes, trips, and most importantly people willing to help transform a novice spinning rod guy into a fly fisherman. TIA KRU Consulting Group            http://rainbow.rmii.com/~csh/kru

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  I’m looking for some recommendations on good fly fishing ships in Denver.   I’m a beginner, and I’m looking for a reputable shop that has classes,   trips, and most importantly people willing to help transform a novice   spinning rod guy into a fly fisherman.   TIA   KRU Consulting Group          http://rainbow.rmii.com/~csh/kru Go see Len or Darryl at "The Troutfisher" on Parker Rd. IMO, they have the

best selection of equipment and fly-tying materials in the area. Denver, Colorado                ftp.rmii.com/pub2/gwgodden

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Can anyone provide information of good fly fishing spots in and around Ithaca New York?   Thanks GDO

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Can anyone provide information of good fly fishing spots in and around Ithaca New York?   Thanks GDO

I have made the three – plus hour trip out to Ithaca from Albany a few times to fish for landlocked salmon, brown trout, and rainbow trout in the spring and fall.  Mostly I have stuck to Fall Creek, but I have also fished Salmon Creek which is a short drive from Ithaca.  Fall Creek flows right through Ithaca, and some of the best fishing can be in the large pool at the base of the magnificent waterfall about 1.5 miles upstream from where the creek pours into Cayuga Lake.  For info on what when where why etc. I suggest the book "Good Fishing in Western New York"…I think it is available from Countryman Press. Right now it may be a little early for the rainbows, but browns and salmon may be in.  It’s been a dry fall around here, though, and I haven’t heard anything great about the fishing in the Finger Lakes tribs.  Of course, if you live in the area it’s no big deal to check it out…if you hear anything about the salmon run, please post it.  I am desperate to catch a landlock on my flyrod!!! Paul DiConza     NY Capital District Angler

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: I’m thinking about a first trip to the San Juan this fall or next spring. : When’s the best dry fly fishing? Chris, Absolutely the best dry fly fishing I ever had on the San Juan was in mid-September a few years back over a Pale Morning Dun hatch.  I have been back a few years at the same time but have never caught it that way again. Baetis and midges hatch pretty much anytime conditions are right (overcast) regardless of time of year. Plan to fish some nymphs. Chuck

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I’m thinking about a first trip to the San Juan this fall or next spring. When’s the best dry fly fishing? Chris Long Long Island, New York

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