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tripper…yup…it’s the only (and last) fly you’ll ever need to buy…an all purpose southern trout fly for those full days astream, and an apres-fish, around the campfire appetizer for the flyfishing gourmand.

(snipped totally deranged commentary about nucular trout flies – I think) Alright, I think I fell into a trap on this one. But in my defense (such as it is) Sandy Pittendrigh *did* publish a pattern for a Marshmallow Nymph – which is what I thought El Walto was referring to. Little did I realize… /daytripper ("Oh! The humility!")

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – tripper…yup…it’s the only (and last) fly you’ll ever need to buy…an all purpose southern trout fly for those full days astream, and an apres-fish, around the campfire appetizer for the flyfishing gourmand. (snipped totally deranged commentary about nucular trout flies – I think) Alright, I think I fell into a trap on this one. But in my defense (such as it is) Sandy Pittendrigh *did* publish a pattern for a Marshmallow Nymph – which is what I thought El Walto was referring to. Little did I realize… /daytripper ("Oh! The humility!")

On second thought – it wasn’t a seagull shit fly, was it? Peter

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Jeff Miller writes:

(snip for brev) but, oy, the workmanship!

I didn’t know you were Yiddish, my good friend.   (snip for sanity) Would you mind tying (tieing) me a couple of these new miricle flies (flys), Jeffy?  I have the money — will pay you on receipt of the flies. Dave LaCourse

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Would you mind tying (tieing) me a couple of these new miricle flies (flys), Jeffy?  I have the money — will pay you on receipt of the flies.

Wow, I had no idea that Jeff was a Russian monk! — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, lesson time: WTF is a "marshmellow" fly – anyone got a reference site that I can drag that pattern from? /daytripper (Dem suthern fish got strange taste in food, I think…) i have no idea what the hell it was trip. all i know is a big white thing was floating down the river and it was being manipulated by jeffrey. here i was fishing a 16 ehc and he’s catching fish on a marshmellow fly. waldo Jeffie’s fishing pellet flies downstream of the stocking truck again? Peter

ack…the inhumanity of it all!  Mr. Charles, have you no sense of decency?!!  if this is how i’m to be treated on this newsgroup…why…why…, i’ll just have to go some place where i’m appreciated! … um…well…ok, you’re right…there really is no such place, so might as well stay here.  but sir, when we declare war on canada, your truck is the first thing on the list of "must bomb"… jeff

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The last three days have been spent exploring waters with Jeff (&Mark on Sat) solely for the benefit of clavesters. Although I feel we have plenty of waters chosen for all that who attend, it is always good to have a well thought out backup plan. Yesterday afternoon in the rain, Jeff & I brazing the fierce elements, descended into the Watauga gorge to assess the situation. The river was running at about normal, even with the rains. We both tied on boogahs and started some downstream streamer fishing. I caught a couple and then switched to a BHPT just for the sake of variety. I also landed a couple on it. I snipped off the bead head and added a length of 5x and tied on a stimulator. That worked fine also as the fish literally jumped out of the water chasing it as I skittered and danced it across the currents. Being observant, I became aware that Jeff wasn’t anywhere to be seen so I headed upstream. I found him firmly planted in the middle of a double stretch run, gleefully casting to rising fish all around him. I came in at the tail and tossed out the stimulator. They smashed it, but no solid takes. I stepped back and noticed that the trout were rising and sipping gently. I switched to a small Adams parachute and wallah, the hatch was matched, somewhat. Fish after fish took and was brought to hand. I finally observed that they were keying on small bwo’s after I changed to a small yellow comparadun…  no takers on it. Now this may seem a bit too easy for some of you, but it is rare, even in the delayed harvest waters, for the fish to be this active all at once. I attribute the activity to all or most of the conditions being ideal for this. The sky was overcast, heck, it was raining. Bwo’s were hatching all around with an occasional gray stone, sulphur, and hendrickson lifting for variety. The fishermen were in the right place at the right time… no skill or planning… just dumb luck. All in all, a good two hour trip…. I pulled out around six to go home and eat…. Jeff and the band played on…. Walt

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, lesson time: WTF is a "marshmellow" fly – anyone got a reference site that I can drag that pattern from? /daytripper (Dem suthern fish got strange taste in food, I think…) i have no idea what the hell it was trip. all i know is a big white thing was floating down the river and it was being manipulated by jeffrey. here i was fishing a 16 ehc and he’s catching fish on a marshmellow fly. waldo

Jeffie’s fishing pellet flies downstream of the stocking truck again? Peter

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trip… think tan, light bodied ehc…. 14-18. i’ve got some of the yellow doo dads tied fer ya already. Thanks, ol’ pal, for thinking of me. The ehc’s are already tied – wayno sent me a weepie email-o-gram for a bunch ;^) also, size 6 marshmellow. stg, jeffie caught a real nice brown today on one. OK, lesson time: WTF is a "marshmellow" fly – anyone got a reference site that I can drag that pattern from? /daytripper (Dem suthern fish got strange taste in food, I think…)

tripper…yup…it’s the only (and last) fly you’ll ever need to buy…an all purpose southern trout fly for those full days astream, and an apres-fish, around the campfire appetizer for the flyfishing gourmand. waldo’s just jealous cause he can’t get one and doesn’t have the facilities for producing it…only a few are produced in a small Russian village near Chernobyl, hence its name – Chernobyl Caddis Rasputin Adams Parachute (C-CRAP)… think of a mutant cross between a parachute adams, an elk hair caddis, and a wooly bugger with flash, irradiated in a secret process that swells (marshmellows)the material into a buoyant mass, and tied only on moonless nights by Russian monks.   the cost of the fly is a mere $1,500…but, oy, the workmanship!  each fly comes with a lifetime guarantee, handling instructions, and a complimentary pair of lead-coated waders. It’s the only fly in your box that’s sure to last longer than you.   the small neon dropper attachment that flashes "bite me" is a few quid extra, but enhances the night-time presentation. mouse patterns have been rendered obsolete for the die-hard midnight trout stalker…plus, this fly will light the way to your favorite tree species (for those of you seeking the pleasures of the forest). …send me a few thousand bucks and i’ll order you a couple…the exchange rate for kopeks and rubles is quite good now… jeff (a friend to the deprived and depraved)

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Walt enjoyed your fish report, looking forward to seeing your act live.  On my mountain adventure  last week I stopped at South Mountain Park on Thursday P.M and hit the stocked portion above horse camping.  Thought I was in heaven and all my reading was paying off. A 8 to 11 inch stocker on every third cast. In about thirty minutes it stopped, think the fish have developed a feeding schedule  at the hatchery, as I was only able to dig out three in another two hours of beating the water.  My presentation  needs refinement but it wasn"t because of fly choice, I went through the box., need some  casting help also.   But I did work on my sea legs and for the first time out this season  , happy to say I only wene down once.  Friday early I climbed over the falls to be first one through wild trout water { a la Pamlico Jim } but top feeding was slow  so I moved on to Robinsville.  ?Glads to report the 4 lane highway to Toosie’s is still under construction, looks like it extended two blocks in last six months.  Saturday and Sunday fished Snowbird, Santerhilla, and Nangahala  thru cloudy showers and had some fish on drys and nymphs. Have still not caught o streamers or a wooly booger, but will read some more.    Do not recommend that Indians camp alone. I had enough pre mixed manhattens for five nights but used them all up, plus some Jack D. sitting around lonely   camp fire first night.   compssing some interllegical poetry .{ What is doggerel ]     could NOT FIT MY roff FISHING CAP ONTO HEAD NEXT MORNING.          iF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO FOAM BODY YELLOW HUMPISE # 14 please bring me a dozen to clave, they seem to flat higher and longer in fast stream          Indian Joe*

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The last three days have been spent exploring waters with Jeff (&Mark on Sat) solely for the benefit of clavesters.

Many thanks for that supreme sacrifice, Walt. It’s rotten job and we appreciate you doing it ;^) Now, what size flies should we be tying? Stimulators are a PITA to tie so I’d like to concentrate of the *good* sizes. /daytripper

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Walt enjoyed your fish report, looking forward to seeing your act live.  On my mountain adventure  last week I stopped at South Mountain Park on Thursday P.M and hit the stocked portion above horse camping.  Thought I was in heaven and all my reading was paying off. A 8 to 11 inch stocker on every third cast. In about thirty minutes it stopped, think the fish have developed a feeding schedule  at the hatchery, as I was only able to dig out three in another two hours of beating the water.  My presentation  needs refinement but it wasn"t because of fly choice, I went through the box., need some  casting help also.   But I did work on my sea legs and for the first time out this season  , happy to say I only wene down once.  Friday early I climbed over the falls to be first one through wild trout water { a la Pamlico Jim } but top feeding was slow  so I moved on to Robinsville.  ?Glads to report the 4 lane highway to Toosie’s is still under construction, looks like it extended two blocks in last six months.  Saturday and Sunday fished Snowbird, Santerhilla, and Nangahala  thru cloudy showers and had some fish on drys and nymphs. Have still not caught o streamers or a wooly booger, but will read some more.    Do not recommend that Indians camp alone. I had enough pre mixed manhattens for five nights but used them all up, plus some Jack D. sitting around lonely   camp fire first night.   compssing some interllegical poetry .{ What is doggerel ]     could NOT FIT MY roff FISHING CAP ONTO HEAD NEXT MORNING.          iF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO FOAM BODY YELLOW HUMPISE # 14 please bring me a dozen to clave, they seem to flat higher and longer in fast stream          Indian Joe*

i’ll personally tie ya up some joe…. just don’t let me give ya ken’s by mistake waldo — Walter G. Winter Ezflyfish.com:  http://www.ezflyfish.com Blue Ridge Book Gallery: http://www.crosswinds.net/~brbg/books/brbg-2.html

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The last three days have been spent exploring waters with Jeff (&Mark on Sat) solely for the benefit of clavesters. Many thanks for that supreme sacrifice, Walt. It’s rotten job and we appreciate you doing it ;^) Now, what size flies should we be tying? Stimulators are a PITA to tie so I’d like to concentrate of the *good* sizes. /daytripper

trip… think tan, light bodied ehc…. 14-18. i’ve got some of the yellow doo dads tied fer ya already. also, size 6 marshmellow. stg, jeffie caught a real nice brown today on one. waldo — Walter G. Winter Ezflyfish.com:  http://www.ezflyfish.com Blue Ridge Book Gallery: http://www.crosswinds.net/~brbg/books/brbg-2.html

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trip… think tan, light bodied ehc…. 14-18. i’ve got some of the yellow doo dads tied fer ya already.

Thanks, ol’ pal, for thinking of me. The ehc’s are already tied – wayno sent me a weepie email-o-gram for a bunch ;^) also, size 6 marshmellow. stg, jeffie caught a real nice brown today on one.

OK, lesson time: WTF is a "marshmellow" fly – anyone got a reference site that I can drag that pattern from? /daytripper (Dem suthern fish got strange taste in food, I think…)

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I think…) How do you piss off a trout fishermen? Tell him trout will eat anything catfish eat. Big Dale

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OK, lesson time: WTF is a "marshmellow" fly – anyone got a reference site that I can drag that pattern from? /daytripper (Dem suthern fish got strange taste in food, I think…)

i have no idea what the hell it was trip. all i know is a big white thing was floating down the river and it was being manipulated by jeffrey. here i was fishing a 16 ehc and he’s catching fish on a marshmellow fly. waldo

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Now this may seem a bit too easy for some of you, but it is rare, even in the delayed harvest waters, for the fish to be this active all at once. I attribute the activity to all or most of the conditions being ideal for this. The sky was overcast, heck, it was raining. Bwo’s were hatching all around with an occasional gray stone, sulphur, and hendrickson lifting for variety. The fishermen were in the right place at the right time… no skill or planning… just dumb luck. All in all, a good two hour trip…. I pulled out around six to go home and eat…. Jeff and the band played on….

Sounds like a fun trip. In my experience, the frequency that fish become active all at once depends on the fertility of the stream. On very fertile streams this is often a daily experience and during certain times of the year this happen several times a day. These fish are often selective. When they are intent on their feeding, they often lose some of their caution and are less spooky than normal. On relatively infertile waters, hatches dense enough to turn on the fish are pretty rare. The plus part of this for us fishermen is that the fish in these streams are not usually very fussy about what pattern is used. Since they don’t get distracted by the hatches, they tend to be spooky pretty much all the time. Different kinds of fishing, both alot of fun. Willi

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hi! I’m gonna be in Philadelphia/Cherry Hill on Sunday, Sept. 13th. Would like some guidance on places to fly fish within a couple of hours radius. Or a local fly shop to contact for direction. tight lines, phil joffe

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The Little Lehigh in Allentown should be pretty hot right now. Tricos should be dynamite! I haven’t fished this river in years, but the Fish for Fun stretch off Cedar Crest was always a challenge on humid August Tico mornings. Take 309 north to Allentown. Take Cedar Crest Blvd South and look for signs.

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Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon

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You might check http://www.webpak.net/~rafter/    Vince’s Idaho Whitewater Page.  I believe he has a very complete set of links to flow gauges among other things Penny Specialty Outdoors: Sewing and Repair for Outdoor Enthusiasts Tips for making your own gear! http://www.nextdim.com/users/pschwyn/tips.htm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon

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Late runoff this year.  It has been cold and rainy/snowy up there.  I was in the area this weekend, and the pack is mostly gone finally. The creeks are running pretty good.  Johnson creek is running 1430 today.  Lots of rain has been keeping the ground saturated.   Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon

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Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon

 try this: http://www.idwr.state.id.us/idwr/planpol/techserv/flows.htm flows are steady but not outrageous due to cooler than norm weather.

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Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)?

2200 cfs yesterday. Are you planning on kayaking there?  If so when?  We will be there some time near the end of June. Bob Langley Winters, CA

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? Also, what has been the general behavior of the runoff this year (early melt?, recent snowfall? etc etc- you know what I mean)? Thanks Jon  try this: http://www.idwr.state.id.us/idwr/planpol/techserv/flows.htm flows are steady but not outrageous due to cooler than norm weather.

Jim, Thanks. I had not seen this page before. The Krassel gauge readout has always been our benchmark for the area. Particularly because there are often large discrepancies between flow on the E.Fork of the S. Fork (below Johnson creek) and the Upper S. Fork. Its funny that this is available yet I have called out there are the rangers don’t even know the Krassel gauge reading. Excellent resource. Thanks again. Jon

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Does anyone have any recent information of the runoff and snowpack for this year in the Yellowpine Idaho area? Any recent readings on the Krassel ranger station gauge (South Fork of the Salmon)? 2200 cfs yesterday. Are you planning on kayaking there?  If so when?  We will be there some time near the end of June. Bob Langley Winters, CA

Bob, Yes, we will be doing some paddling there. We are having a rendezvous of long time friends and will be at the Warm Lake campground from June 27-July 4. This group has paddled that area since the mid-70’s and has many long time class V paddlers. However, many of us the last 2 or 3 years have had kids and have backed off class V, primarily because we don’t have the time to paddle enough to maintain our edge to do class V safely and we tend to approach paddling with a group-oriented safety ethic. If you are around, come up to the site. We have the big group site at the Warm Lake campground. I don’t know if you will be able to scare up a group for class V but there will be paddling going on, as well as mtn. biking, flyfishing and general lounging. The trip has been structured to be more family friendly than our old hair trips. If you just want to paddle hair, this may not be your best group. Also, if you tend to be a solo wild card on the river, the may not be the best group for you as we are all very into 1) fun and 2) group safety. You decide. If you are around drop in a say hello and see what’s cooking. Jon McAnulty

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Does anyone have contact information for the NY State Guides Association? I would like to find out what the requirements are for certification.

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Does anyone have contact information for the NY State Guides Association? I would like to find out what the requirements are for certification.

Michael, The phone number for NYSOGA is 518 798 1253.  Good luck. James Ehlers NYSOGA Member Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service 1997 Guide of the Year Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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Mike – Contact the DEC in Raybrooke, NY (area code 518) and they can refer you to the proper office which will mail out an aplication form as well as requirements. What is required for the Backpacking/Hiking & Camping Licence: (If I remember correctly) -Passing a Physical Exam from your Doctor, -Basic First Aid AND Water Safety Course OR  Advanced First Aid (Includes Water Safety course) -Taking a 2 or 3 hour test at your Regional DEC Office (Core plus area of  specialty  -Climbing/Hiking & Backpacking/Canoeing/Camping…) -Fee of around $50-$75 Good Luck Rick Does anyone have contact information for the NY State Guides Association? I would like to find out what the requirements are for certification.

– ***NOTICE*** Do not use autosend with the spam defeater  Rick Story

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Hey, Sounds like you’ve found a niche.  I could recommend a couple of fly shops that I know quite well from my fishing experience.  I am not sure on the business details, but i’m a finance major and a quick learner.  I’ve grown up in Miami and fishing is my lifeline.   Write Back and tell me more maybe i can help TarponRoto

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 We are tying flies in Thailand ! And we are looking for a serious distributor of our flies : we have been tying flies since 1949(and are the first company to use CDC feathers for fly tying) We are using exclusivelly Daiichi Hooks… wich we can sell at arr. 30 $ per thousand. We have also CDC at 350 to 450 $ per lbs. We have experienced tiers who use to work for Umpqua before joining our company ( We do not intend to copy Umpqua flies) Our requirements : 500 to 1,000 dozens orders ! happy to find out good tyiers who can set up an exclusive American collection our fax : 66.53.260.546…or E mail

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We are tying flies in Thailand !… there is a good reason to that… and even more than one !….. -We have got the Daiichi hooks at a very good price… we can sell them at 30 $ per thousand – We have experienced fly tiers… who worked with Umpqua before joining us ! -We do have all the CDC we want … and we sell it at 350 to 350 $ per lbs. We are looking for a serious distributor, we can work on a package price basis …arr. 6$ per doz. We also want to find out good fly tiers who could create with us an American Collection Christian  ION

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I don’t have ten favorite flies and I would be hard pressed to just to give you the names of 30 flies.  To me "favorite fly" means the one I like best, not 10 or 30.  My favorite dry fly is a modified Horner Deer Hair, which tells you nothing because you have no idea how I modify it.  Jack Horner is the inventor of the Humpy or Goofus Bug which is my next to my favorite dry fly.  My favorite wet fly is a Western Coachnan and my favorite streamer is one of Keith Fulshers flies from his book "Tying and Fishing the Thunder Creek Series". — Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail Ernie Harrison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas

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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas

PERSON !!   I do not want to tell you !   Harry

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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas

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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers.

Now you’re telling us the rules! My fly box isn’t that big, and I can’t remember all the names, just what works. 12 green ones, 16 black, 4 red, and 8 brown. Some are multi colored but who’s counting. — Doug Knight                           metalfab<atpacbell.net Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP.

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BTW, this IS a coed event, right?

Only with your cousin<g. Charlie…

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ANNOUNCEMENT ! We are tremendously pleased to announce the First annual Western Colorado Strip Flyfishing Competition to be held May 26th and 27th 1997 in the Roaring Fork Valley of Colorado.  All Flyfishers from around the world are invited to participate.

Yikes! This could reveal a little more than who can catch trout! We may have to arrange a similar tourny here in the SouthEast…not sure we could now that I think about it…bein’ in the Bible Belt an’ all… As another FFer mentioned, Lewis Grizzard had a definition fer Nekkid…can’t…or more truthfully…don’t want to imagine too many ROFF contributors engaged in such activity….[shudder] ;-D BTW, this IS a coed event, right? — John Carney          Fly Fisher & Parrot Head (NO-SPAM in address to avoid spamming)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ANNOUNCEMENT ! snip 5) An angler can continue fishing with his last fly while buck naked, but once the 6th fly is gone, the angler must cease fishing and report back to the weigh in area (Glenwood Canyon Brewpub). snip Some strategies and suggestions: ….wear one pair of boot foot chest waders and 5 pair of underwear. ….stock up on the 2X ….relax until late afternoon and fish the rise with dries ….fish streamers along the bank if it’s warm and the sun is out ….put down a life vest before sitting on a sunny aluminum seat ….do not look directly at Lefty when he is nekkid as permanent eye     and psycological damage may result. Hope to see *all* of you there…. Tim,   You know what Lewis Grizzard said about the word, nekkid (spelled, N E double-K by-God I D). It makes you feel good just to say it.   BTW, what’s the entry fee?

only courage… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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<snip I sense my heretofore unyielding disgust with tournaments rapidly fading away, being replaced by an unexpected and somewhat frightening

Lefty? Surely you jest…. Phil Koenig Manhattan Custom Tackle Ltd. http://fishdoc.com "I’m the boss, so WHATEVER I say is OK."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ANNOUNCEMENT ! snip 5) An angler can continue fishing with his last fly while buck naked, but once the 6th fly is gone, the angler must cease fishing and report back to the weigh in area (Glenwood Canyon Brewpub). snip Some strategies and suggestions: ….wear one pair of boot foot chest waders and 5 pair of underwear. ….stock up on the 2X ….relax until late afternoon and fish the rise with dries ….fish streamers along the bank if it’s warm and the sun is out ….put down a life vest before sitting on a sunny aluminum seat ….do not look directly at Lefty when he is nekkid as permanent eye     and psycological damage may result. Hope to see *all* of you there….

Tim,   You know what Lewis Grizzard said about the word, nekkid (spelled, N E double-K by-God I D). It makes you feel good just to say it.   BTW, what’s the entry fee?

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ANNOUNCEMENT ! We are tremendously pleased to announce the First annual Western Colorado Strip Flyfishing Competition to be held May 26th and 27th 1997 in the Roaring Fork Valley of Colorado.  All Flyfishers from around the world are invited to participate. The rules: 1) Each angler can select 6 flies and 6 articles of clothing (including waders and wading boots). 2) Anglers are paired off and assigned an objective observer. 3) Anglers fish for big and most fish.  Anglers have the option of measuring and releasing or keeping the fish within the normal regulations. 4) Every time a fly is broken off, an article of clothing must be removed before a new fly can be tied on and fishing can commence. 5) An angler can continue fishing with his last fly while buck naked, but once the 6th fly is gone, the angler must cease fishing and report back to the weigh in area (Glenwood Canyon Brewpub). 6) 5 awards will be presented.   …..Most Fish Award …..Biggest Fish Award …..Little Winky Award …..Funniest Looking When Naked Award …..Most likey to require custom waders Award The purpose of this tournamant is to highten the awareness that all flyfishermen were created equal in the eyes of the creator and to strip away the pretensions created by expensive equipment and conceit and to get down to the bare essence of our sport. Above all, the objective is to have fun and to remind all that flyfishing is only fishing, with or without a fly. Some strategies and suggestions: ….wear one pair of boot foot chest waders and 5 pair of underwear. ….stock up on the 2X ….relax until late afternoon and fish the rise with dries ….fish streamers along the bank if it’s warm and the sun is out ….put down a life vest before sitting on a sunny aluminum seat ….do not look directly at Lefty when he is nekkid as permanent eye     and psycological damage may result. Hope to see *all* of you there…. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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ANNOUNCEMENT ! We are tremendously pleased to announce the First annual Western Colorado Strip Flyfishing Competition to be held May 26th and 27th 1997 in the Roaring Fork Valley of Colorado.  All Flyfishers from around the world are invited to participate.

(snipped) I sense my heretofore unyielding disgust with tournaments rapidly fading away, being replaced by an unexpected and somewhat frightening M.Faulkner

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Ole Ralph Garlalnd used to say, You never go fishing for striped bass untill the "Shad Bush" is in full bloom. Shad bush, (Forsythia), blooms in early spring, bright yellow blossoms!

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Sorry, forgot to say: check out my web page for some pics of the beasts weve caught in the past: www.nh.ultranet.com/~mikec/mikec – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could any one tell me when the stripers start running in NH. coastal area. I don’ know about NH, but the stripers are almost always running at the mouth of the Merrimack River by the first week in May. But, judging by reports I’ve already heard of schoolies hitting in Rhode Island, I think it’s going to be an early year. Get your rods ready, it won’t be long now… -bd

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Ive heard of divers seeing big cows just laying on the bottom during the winter months, I can imagine if you could stand the cold and drop a bait right in front of their big puss, one could catch them all year. (piscataqua river) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could any one tell me when the stripers start running in NH. coastal area. I don’ know about NH, but the stripers are almost always running at the mouth of the Merrimack River by the first week in May. But, judging by reports I’ve already heard of schoolies hitting in Rhode Island, I think it’s going to be an early year. Get your rods ready, it won’t be long now… -bd

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Would that be the phorthisia (spelling) bush? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ole Ralph Garlalnd used to say, You never go fishing for striped bass untill the "Shad Bush" is in full bloom. Shad bush, (Forsythia), blooms in early spring, bright yellow blossoms!

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Ayuh, those ah nice bass. New Hampsha, Eh? Why’ve I been drivin’ down the Cape?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ive heard of divers seeing big cows just laying on the bottom during the winter months, I can imagine if you could stand the cold and drop a bait right in front of their big puss, one could catch them all year. (piscataqua river) Could any one tell me when the stripers start running in NH. coastal area. I don’ know about NH, but the stripers are almost always running at the mouth of the Merrimack River by the first week in May. But, judging by reports I’ve already heard of schoolies hitting in Rhode Island, I think it’s going to be an early year. Get your rods ready, it won’t be long now… -bd

I’ve heard a good early spot is out by Adams Point near the lab. Plan on going there in the next week or so if the weather gets nice.                                                                 jc

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Could any one tell me when the stripers start running in NH. coastal area.

Over the past several (6) years I’ve always got into them in the first 2 weeks of May at the trestle at the Hampton R. I was there about an hour ago, in fact. Been fishing it a little for the past few weeks, nothing doing right yet, though a small baitfish followed my fly in once :- Gotta take encouragement where ya find it ! Today was windier than it looked and colder than it looked, but it beats working through lunch….                                                         jc

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Ayuh, those ah nice bass. New Hampsha, Eh? Why’ve I been drivin’ down the Cape?

Probably to fish, then go to a bah and swill down some wicked pisssah bee_ahs with the boys from Sumuville ?

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John , keep us posted, too cold for me still…( think ive got bass in my basement, there enought water…) – mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Could any one tell me when the stripers start running in NH. coastal area. Over the past several (6) years I’ve always got into them in the first 2 weeks of May at the trestle at the Hampton R. I was there about an hour ago, in fact. Been fishing it a little for the past few weeks, nothing doing right yet, though a small baitfish followed my fly in once :- Gotta take encouragement where ya find it ! Today was windier than it looked and colder than it looked, but it beats working through lunch….                                                    jc

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Could any one tell me when the stripers start running in NH. coastal area.

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Could any one tell me when the stripers start running in NH. coastal area.

I don’ know about NH, but the stripers are almost always running at the mouth of the Merrimack River by the first week in May. But, judging by reports I’ve already heard of schoolies hitting in Rhode Island, I think it’s going to be an early year. Get your rods ready, it won’t be long now… -bd

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In CT. we get holdovers all winter. What we consider a run also starts early may. Schoolies in Rhode Island? I heard it too. TW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… Could any one tell me when the stripers start running in NH. coastal area. I don’ know about NH, but the stripers are almost always running at the mouth of the Merrimack River by the first week in May. But, judging by reports I’ve already heard of schoolies hitting in Rhode Island, I think it’s going to be an early year. Get your rods ready, it won’t be long now… -bd

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Hello, I’m pretty new to the newsgroups and to southwest Idaho.  Parents do live in Buhl though. My question for anyone is for maybe any clues they would be will to give on good casting areas around Boise or within an hour or less. I was hoping to kinda get a few of those secrets people let die with themselves and still am crossing my fingers.  I anyone decides to help a poor lost soul like myself you could e-mail me directly to leave it off the group and I would appreciate it tremendously.                                                         Thanks,                                                         Christian Keeley

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I’m pretty new to the newsgroups and to southwest Idaho.  Parents do live in Buhl though. My question for anyone is for maybe any clues they would be will to give on good casting areas around Boise or within an hour or less. I was hoping to kinda get a few of those secrets people let die with themselves and still am crossing my fingers.  I anyone decides to help a poor lost soul like myself you could e-mail me directly to leave it off the group and I would appreciate it tremendously.

I’m not from the Boise area but do get there several times per year. There are lots of places to wet a line including the Boise river, the many small ponds within the city (they are stocked with trout) and one of my favorite places the Wilson Ponds in Nampa.  Your best bet is to check into a fly shop and ask.  They are always happy to direct you to good fishing locations.

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I lived in boise for 2/3 years and caught many dumb fish on the boise, both in town and down river. There is also this little trickle called the S. Fork. and one called…oh shit man, you are in the thick of it! Get thee to a fly shop and snoop. Jezus! Don’t you know where you are! Ugh!!! Best… S. "The World is full of shipping clerks who read the Harvard Classics." –Bukowski, American writer, poet S. Duda Seattle, WA

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I live in Colorado and would like to introduce flyfishing to my son who is 9 years old.  I have been here for 6 years and have fished the S. Platte, Arkansas, Rio Grande, etc.  But I am looking for recommendations for small streams with good access, and easy fishing (preferably dry fly) for small fish. Any recommendations you might have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ron Welborne

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Ron, I good place for this might by the exit waters of Pueblo Resovoir.  It is always open and very easy to catch fish.  There is not of lot of River to fish but it might be ideal for your situation.  Right under the dam are some good holes.  Again not alot of fishing but it should produce results and is warmer and more consistent for a nine year old.Good Luck!! Tom

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Well flyfishing with kids is not easy, but it can be done. You’ll need some large sproat hooks.  Lash the kids to the hooks with 20Lb Amnesia Stiff Monofilimant.  Duct tape their mouths, unless fishing for musky or pike.  See the article on Tarpon Leaders and tie a few of those.  You’ll need a large double handed spey rod and with any luck you should be able to chuck the little buggers 40-50 feet.   Tim Walker (Just kidding…i love children…they’re delicious…)

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