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 on the contrary:  posts such as yours often transform banality into a worthwhile subject for ridicule.

Who else has a motorcycle with 3 fly tying vices on it (except maybe Dig Dale<g)? — Charlie…

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(except maybe Dig Dale<g)?

Or Big Dale, too… — Charlie…

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however, you must not consider my response to be an effort to take  the keyboard from your hands.  on the contrary:  posts such as yours often transform banality into a worthwhile subject for ridicule.

Almost makes me feel bad I missed it. If you hear a distant scream from the East later this morning, you’ll know all those missing posts showed up at once when I fired up ROFF from my office PC. –Steve

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(snip ramblings from the king of babble-on)         george, it is a pity that you are so bereft of literacy; otherwise, the world of psychiatry would be afforded a marvelous insight into the world of the egomaniac, at no cost, here at roff.         however, you must not consider my response to be an effort to take  the keyboard from your hands.  on the contrary:  posts such as yours often transform banality into a worthwhile subject for ridicule.         "wayne"

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What I like about my place is that it reeks with the outdoors/indoors. The unusual objects that grace this place of quiet solitude are really signatures of my life.  To the right of me, as I write this is a motorcycle, right next to my desk – a library of outdoor literature that would keep any man busy reading for several years and in fact, most of them are valuable collector items.  The pictures that adorn my walls began years ago which include art works along with my own.  A River Runs Through It, given to me by Redford, tons of inventory and boxes in the upper lofts which we use to ship in to customers all over the world and to my right, my Studio Upright Balwin piano which I tickle, now and then in moments of reverie. A Setter, usually lays at my feet no matter where I sit each day.  Such companionship is one of osmosis, I suppose.  Love unconditional is the best kind of love, which often is more real from animals whose senses are keener than words.  If you want to know that man, I’ve always said, look at his animals.  Are his horse shy from abuse?  Do his dogs cower and does the cat slink away to hide?  Thing is, I marvel that most new people who show up must be warned that they may be licked to death around here. I have serveral com sites that have not been developed yet and I suppose this winter I and David Ion may start doing something about that. Mainly because the bamboo blanks are in great demand and growing. Burning the night oil, late at night, pondering the next decimals on the lathe while listening to Barbara Cook or the Four Freshmen on the Studio Sound System – waxes the hours away.  I’ve always loved working with my hands.  The creation of things that take form for others is a joy for me.  I am good at the things that I do.  A rare gift, I’m told but it makes me smile.  Often, when I work, I have a specific man’s name in mind and although I may not know what they look like, I know the heart. For me, that is what matters. I have a second motorcycle setting by a well used and equiped fly tying center and table.  It has three fly tying vises on it and the finest material money can buy.  The finest refreshments that money can buy is not far away and often, the finest company dwell on life in soft whispers and laughter while pretty things are plucked and stored in fly boxes.  Steelhead season is on and it has been better this year.  The river banks are lined here and there with vehicles, empty of the driver.  One cannot help but look to the river for them. Harmonics has been my bane for three weeks now.  I have hunted this bitch for all this time, trying hard to find the harmony long since lost.  The mill has been eating tips like M & M’s and it tends to piss me off because its been so difficult.  Tonight, finally, the dial indicator needle is setting vibration free for the first time in months, if not nearly a year. I’ve tired of the politics on ROFF and the nonsense of subject matters not dealing with fly fishing.  There is so much to think about regarding the subject and there are so many facets as found on a diamond, yet to be explored.  We used to talk about those a couple years ago all the time.  It used to be as fun as what is enjoyed in the fly tying section.  No darwinian nonsense there.  Just pure fly tying and gentlemen of the first realm. Well, I had to take a break and this computer and hook up is different from the other.  Old friends still write on the side and the letters are warm and caring.  The kind of people that make this world a nice place are often singular minds enjoying and trusting the minutes spent with friends.  Nothing worse in life than bores who only hawk and take inventory of others.  Such a waste of valuable time. I sometimes think of that long line of camels on the horizon in a far away desert.  Mirage like they seem . . . shimmering in the heat of the sun, almost unreal.  If you walk toward them, you notice the camels are in a long, thin line and as you get closer and closer, as in ROFF, you notice they are tied together with singular lines, halter to tail, halter to tail and should you follow with your eye to the front, the lead animal is always a donkey.  ROFFIANS, like the donkey have to figure out why it is always a donkey that leads and if that is good or a bad thing. Right Wayne? — Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues"

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I think that I’ve got it narrowed down to a couple of different models: Wilderness Systems The Ride Perception Swing I plan on using it in the bays around Long Island, NY I do not plan on too much use in the surf, but it may happen. I’m looking for a good Kayak…I am trying to keep down the length to under 14 feet or so. I notice that The Ride has a factory installed Rudder as an option. Would this be a good idea for my kind of use? Is the Swing more versatile than the Ride? How about stability??? Help a newbie out please!! -Tim Before you buy.

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I think that I’ve got it narrowed down to a couple of different models: Wilderness Systems The Ride Perception Swing

I have 2 Ride’s that I use in flat water rivers and inshore in saltwater (I live in Atlanta). I don’t have rudders and haven’t had problems with tracking, but I use mine primarily to fly fish from and not for any kind of touring. — Charlie…

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I grew up on Peconic and Shinnecock bays and wish I could paddle there during these interminable hot days down south. If I were you I would go for the Freedom by WS over the Ride. Both have a rudder option but the Freedom without rudder is as stable as any sot I have ever been in. It seems to sit lower in the water which means it gets less side push from winds, it is faster than Ride and the cost is comparable (Ride w rudder, Freedom w/o) The rudder is not to steer but to keep you on a more or less straight line when winds push against you. I doubt you will need a rudder on the Freedom, learn to control the boat by edging and adjusting your paddle stroke. I would invest the extra money in getting the optional back rest, it will be worth it to you in comfort. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think that I’ve got it narrowed down to a couple of different models: Wilderness Systems The Ride Perception Swing I plan on using it in the bays around Long Island, NY I do not plan on too much use in the surf, but it may happen. I’m looking for a good Kayak…I am trying to keep down the length to under 14 feet or so. I notice that The Ride has a factory installed Rudder as an option. Would this be a good idea for my kind of use? Is the Swing more versatile than the Ride? How about stability??? Help a newbie out please!! -Tim Before you buy.

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I was looking at the Freedom as well, but I elimintaed it due to it’s size….I thought it to be  too long.  I’ll take a closer look.  Anyone with any other thoughts??? Thanks, Tim I – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I grew up on Peconic and Shinnecock bays and wish I could paddle there during these interminable hot days down south. If I were you I would go for the Freedom by WS over the Ride. Both have a rudder option but the Freedom without rudder is as stable as any sot I have ever been in. It seems to sit lower in the water which means it gets less side push from winds, it is faster than Ride and the cost is comparable (Ride w rudder, Freedom w/o) The rudder is not to steer but to keep you on a more or less straight line when winds push against you. I doubt you will need a rudder on the Freedom, learn to control the boat by edging and adjusting your paddle stroke. I would invest the extra money in getting the optional back rest, it will be worth it to you in comfort. I think that I’ve got it narrowed down to a couple of different models: Wilderness Systems The Ride Perception Swing I plan on using it in the bays around Long Island, NY I do not plan on too much use in the surf, but it may happen. I’m looking for a good Kayak…I am trying to keep down the length to under 14 feet or so. I notice that The Ride has a factory installed Rudder as an option. Would this be a good idea for my kind of use? Is the Swing more versatile than the Ride? How about stability??? Help a newbie out please!! -Tim Before you buy.

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Hi Tim, I’m relatively new to sea kayaking and I recently bought a used Scupper Pro (sot) that’s 14′9". I got it because it was in my price range and offered good sized hatches for gear and I found it easy to paddle. (One week this summer I paddled around Shelter Island, Peconic Bay and such.) I’m curious why you didn’t want something longer than 14 feet. In my limited experience, length of the kayak on the water hasn’t been an issue – what do I not know? I am thinking of investigating the rudder option for the Scupper – tracking in wind on the big bays around here (southern New Jersey) would be easier! Karenne

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Hello Ihave the starter Orvis kit that I bought about 9 years ago for sale. It is a 4pc. 6wt. grafite rod with a orvis reel with floating line and a extra spool with sink tip line on it. also a aluminum tub for the rod . reply if interested 125.00 Bye Randy W. Oh ya forgot it’s the green mountain series

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That’s EZ ! www.ezflyfish.com ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Oh Lord – now he’s on commission. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That’s EZ ! www.ezflyfish.com ! — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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I’m new to fly fishing, but got hooked (no pun intended) last summer. I couldn’t get any bites on bait so pulled out my mismatched fly rod (I bought it years ago at a Kmart closeout sale.) and instantly started getting bites. Apparently the little red misquito and Dave’s Hopper were the right choices. I caught a 4lb Rainbow and hooked several more but couldn’t land them. This was on the San Juan River near Pagosa Springs, Colorado.  Anyway, the point is I want to invest a little (maybe $75?) in a decent fly rod. I almost always stream fish for trout and usually not but about 8-11 inches.  What should I get and where do I get it?  I’d like a matched kit because I don’t know much about fly-fishing. Thanks for the help.

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I bought my wife an outfit from Cabellas…..for my money they have the best combo kits on the market in all price ranges..john

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Anyway, the point is I want to invest a little (maybe $75?) in a decent fly rod. I almost always stream fish for trout and usually not but about 8-11 inches.  What should I get and where do I get it?  I’d like a matched kit because I don’t know much about fly-fishing.

The advice to get Cabela’s catalog to buy an inexpensive outfit is good. They have a wider selection than anybody in the lower price points. From what you say, look for an outfit that is 4 or 5 wt., and 8′6"  to 9′ long.  For a "balanced outfit", you’ll need a reel and fly line to match. If you’re used to K-Mart prices on spinning tackle, you’re in for a bit of sticker-shock.  Is the $75 for a rod only, or a rod/reel/line combination? If the latter you’re really pushing the bottom limits of the market, and are likely to replace it fairly soon if you get serious about the sport.  You may wish to hold on to your existing K-Mart special, and save up about $200 for an outfit that will give you a real performance improvement over what you’ve got now. Michael

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m new to fly fishing, but got hooked (no pun intended) last summer. I couldn’t get any bites on bait so pulled out my mismatched fly rod (I bought it years ago at a Kmart closeout sale.) and instantly started getting bites. Apparently the little red misquito and Dave’s Hopper were the right choices. I caught a 4lb Rainbow and hooked several more but couldn’t land them. This was on the San Juan River near Pagosa Springs, Colorado.  Anyway, the point is I want to invest a little (maybe $75?) in a decent fly rod. I almost always stream fish for trout and usually not but about 8-11 inches.  What should I get and where do I get it?  I’d like a matched kit because I don’t know much about fly-fishing. Thanks for the help.

  No doubt you’ve already read the advice on Cabelas, They are right. Give a good look at the 3 forks 3wt. 7.5′ 3piece rod combo. It casts easily to 30′ and beyond if you power it. It’ll be really fun on the size you specified yet has enough backbone for those 4+ pounders if finessed (I’ve done it) but it is more closely related to work than relaxation at that size.Comes complete but I would add a loop (orvis makes the best), the reel is on the large size for the rod but light and usable. It comes kit form so you can learn to attach the leader to line and reel(if you goof just cut it and try again), the line is not of the greatest quality but it’ll get you on the water AND the price is right.                                                       John Popp                                                    in Sanford Fl.

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<< I’m new to fly fishing, but got hooked (no pun intended) last summer. I couldn’t get any bites on bait so pulled out my mismatched fly rod (I bought it years ago at a Kmart closeout sale.) and instantly started getting bites. Apparently the little red misquito and Dave’s Hopper were the right choices. I caught a 4lb Rainbow and hooked several more but couldn’t land them. This was on the San Juan River near Pagosa Springs, Colorado.  Anyway, the point is I want to invest a little (maybe $75?) in a decent fly rod. I almost always stream fish for trout and usually not but about 8-11 inches.  What should I get and where do I get it?  I’d like a matched kit because I don’t know much about fly-fishing.

My advice would be to invest a little more money, dump the ideas about buying a kit,  and get a nice Pro Graphite St Croix rod and put a few extra bucks into the line. This is the setup I started flyfishing with 6 years ago now. I wanted to buy a cheap kit, and see if "I liked it", but a wise person told me to put in a little more money. You’ve already tried flyfishing with the cheap stuff. You will very probably develop into a fanatic. I own many flyrods now, but that old St. Croix 5 wt is still a rod I love and use frequently. Tor Larsen

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m new to fly fishing, but got hooked (no pun intended) last summer. I couldn’t get any bites on bait so pulled out my mismatched fly rod (I bought it years ago at a Kmart closeout sale.) and instantly started getting bites. Apparently the little red misquito and Dave’s Hopper were the right choices. I caught a 4lb Rainbow and hooked several more but couldn’t land them. This was on the San Juan River near Pagosa Springs, Colorado.  Anyway, the point is I want to invest a little (maybe $75?) in a decent fly rod. I almost always stream fish for trout and usually not but about 8-11 inches.  What should I get and where do I get it?  I’d like a matched kit because I don’t know much about fly-fishing. Thanks for the help.

Hi All, Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop www.kiene.com

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Don’t need a cane rod George, I have enough trouble with a graphite one, but if I may put my 2 cents in, "By George Fly Rods" has a nice ring to it. And just for curiosity sakes, what color thread for the guides?

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What is your final choice?  And do you want an extra tip? I’ll give you a tip, George. Get out of this business before it’s too late.

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So, I’ve been lurking around for a while and am still new to this newsgroup stuff, but i can’t help asking for help. Im just starting to FF for Steelhead and would apprec. any advice on the best places to FF for steelhead within a day trip from Portland, (any othr hint on tackle or tech. would also be much appreciated!) I’ve been fishing this area all my life about the last 20 FF mostly for trout and drift FF for steelies and salmon (only once have i caught any Chinook but what a thrill!) So I’m not a beginner but would like to maximize my chances for a hook up without running afoul of the rest of the regular fisherfolk. P.S. I’ve had problems with my postings going out multiple times so I’ll try to watch it. please advise if problem persists Russ Weitz "Reality is an escape for people who don’t fish" "Reality is an escape for people who don’t fish" – Unknown

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So, I’ve been lurking around for a while and am still new to this newsgroup stuff, but i can’t help asking for help. Im just starting to FF for Steelhead and would apprec. any advice on the best places to FF for steelhead within a day trip from Portland, (any othr hint on tackle or tech. would also be much appreciated!) I’ve been fishing this area all my life about the last 20 FF mostly for trout and drift FF for steelies and salmon (only once have i caught any Chinook but what a thrill!) So I’m not a beginner but would like to maximize my chances for a hook up without running afoul of the rest of the regular fisherfolk.

The Sandy/Salmon river to the east is only maybe 45 minutes away depending on what part of Portland you are coming from. The Trask and Wilson rivers to the west are probably about the same also depending on which side you live on. Add 30 minutes time if you are coming from Beaverton/Hillsboro going east or Gresham going west. Good Luck, I hear the rivers are finally starting to drop after a very wet November/December.      - Ken

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You might also want to check out the links under United States then Oregon at http://www.davisbrown.com/ffgeo.htm  There are plenty of places with fishing reports and fly shop assistance. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So, I’ve been lurking around for a while and am still new to this newsgroup stuff, but i can’t help asking for help. Im just starting to FF for Steelhead and would apprec. any advice on the best places to FF for steelhead within a day trip from Portland, (any othr hint on tackle or tech. would also be much appreciated!) I’ve been fishing this area all my life about the last 20 FF mostly for trout and drift FF for steelies and salmon (only once have i caught any Chinook but what a thrill!) So I’m not a beginner but would like to maximize my chances for a hook up without running afoul of the rest of the regular fisherfolk. P.S. I’ve had problems with my postings going out multiple times so I’ll try to watch it. please advise if problem persists Russ Weitz "Reality is an escape for people who don’t fish" "Reality is an escape for people who don’t fish" – Unknown

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I saw a translation of the Redding CA fly shop’s fishing reports posted here several weeks ago. I am meeting a group that frequent the area this weekend and would like to share that with them. Does anyone know where I can get that post? Dingbat

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I saw a translation of the Redding CA fly shop’s fishing reports posted here several weeks ago. I am meeting a group that frequent the area this weekend and would like to share that with them. Does anyone know where I can get that post? Dingbat

Hi Karl, This is the web address: http://206.155.34.5/report.taf Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, Chat with expert author Peter Kaminsky and learn the techniques you’ll need to know to land yourself a whopper! Whether you’re a novice or a veteran angler, "Fly Fishing For Dummies" offers sage advice for choosing the right kind of gear, finding out how and where to catch freshwater and saltwater fish, practicing the art of tying flies, and more. <http://www.dummies.com/community/chat/ Chat Channel: #dummies Chat Server: chat.talkcity.com Hope to see you there! Courtesy of the IDG Books Author Chat Series

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I am starting to stealhead fish this winter and need to know what the best fly would be.  I fish in the B.C. area.

Hi Guy, I don’t know if there is a best fly or not rather they may very well be favorite fly. For me my favorite steelhead fly is the green butt skunk. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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I am starting to stealhead fish this winter and need to know what the best fly would be.  I fish in the B.C. area.

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I am starting to stealhead fish this winter and need to know what the best fly would be.  I fish in the B.C. area.

 The Popsicle’s  are  great fly patterns . This may sound weird but I like to throw a Purple Muddler (wt). I have not fished B.C. , but I would not be surprised if most patterns that work here in Cal./Oregan/Washington would produce in BC . I’m affraid that FF’ing for SH in my neck of the woods is kaput. We are  in a major flood stage and will be blown out for weeks, months. Oh well… back to the bench….   Harry

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The best fly is the one that the fish are taking at that particular day, time, and body of water.  Fishing conditions can change instantly during winter fishing season on the West Coast.  You will need a variety of patterns from bright and flashy to dark and subdued.  Steelhead fishing is a challenging prospect.   Good Luck Jeff

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I am starting to stealhead fish this winter and need to know what the best fly would be.  I fish in the B.C. area.

Trey Combs, in his book "Steelhead Fishing and Flies" gives3 lists of flies for BC streams. Karl Mausser’s list (for the Kispiox, Babine, Bulkley and Morice Rivers, all Skeena tributaries) is:         1. Kispiox Special         2. Sack Fly (a Burlap with an orange hackle tail)         3. Black Beauty         4. Skykomish Sunrise         5. McLeod Ugly Bucktail         6. Royal Coachman A Morice and Bulkley guide lists these as favorites:         1. Van Luven         2. Wooly Worm         3. Burlap         4. Stillaguamish Sunrise         5. Orange Optic         7. Skykomish Sunrise A Northwest fly seller gives this list as their top ten over a 37 year period:         1. Skunk         2. Royal Coachman Bucktail         3. Umpqua Special         4. Kalama Special         5. Skykomish Sunrise         6. Fall Favorite         7. Golden Demon         8. Spruce         9. Thor         10. Silver Hilton A couple of other good performing flies are Purple Peril and Green Butted Skunk. Tight Lines, -Burton

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The best fly of course is the one that is in the river on the end of your line. For a start, check out either of Trey Combs books ( eg. Steelhead Flyfishing and Flys) from your local library. My favorite fly is a Brad’s Brat (bright fly) or a Purple Peril (dark). Bart Phillips

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Well now how do end the evening with a late strat fishing? Well by catch some real nice trout on dry flies. One redside was about 16/17 inches long on a large stonefly nymph. The rest were taken on the surface with a #14 & 16 Parachute Adams. I landed several redsides and cutthroat trout averaging about 10 inches to 14 inches. The fishing time was about 3:30 PM till dark. The place was from Ballenger put-in to Harvast Lane on the lower McKenzie River. I do believe that there are no hatchery fish in this section–so far. So all my trout were natives. The insects were hatching quite steadly all evening– oh! what a sunset last night. I saw several McKenzie caddis’s fluttering by, many BW Olives #14-18 (this is as close to bug ID as I’ll get.) Ther was also a nice spinner activity Western Red Quill #14-16, plus some PE duns #14-18 Lt Cahill will do just fine. Even though I am a giude on this river…this was a quiet trip for self. Fishing was really good. I mean Iwent to have a good time, and found just what I needed…fish and peace & solitude. I would recommend you fish the McKenzie this Spring… Ralph Glazier                          South Fork Fly Fishing, Inc                                        Alsea, OR.                                        1 541 487-7310        

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well now how do end the evening with a late strat fishing? Well by catch some real nice trout on dry flies. One redside was about 16/17 inches long on a large stonefly nymph. The rest were taken on the surface with a #14 & 16 Parachute Adams. I landed several redsides and cutthroat trout averaging about 10 inches to 14 inches. The fishing time was about 3:30 PM till dark. The place was from Ballenger put-in to Harvast Lane on the lower McKenzie River. I do believe that there are no hatchery fish in this section–so far. So all my trout were natives. The insects were hatching quite steadly all evening– oh! what a sunset last night. I saw several McKenzie caddis’s fluttering by, many BW Olives #14-18 (this is as close to bug ID as I’ll get.) Ther was also a nice spinner activity Western Red Quill #14-16, plus some PE duns #14-18 Lt Cahill will do just fine. Even though I am a giude on this river…this was a quiet trip for self. Fishing was really good. I mean Iwent to have a good time, and found just what I needed…fish and peace & solitude. I would recommend you fish the McKenzie this Spring… Ralph Glazier                          South Fork Fly Fishing, Inc                                       Alsea, OR.                                       1 541 487-7310        

Well, I certainly miss fishing in that area, and your message didn’t help any! Really, I enjoyed reading it.   I grew up in Eugene and lived there until I was about 28; used to do a lot of fishing around there.  Is the upper Alsea ( south fork, I think ) still good for little trout? I used tave fun fishing with a dropper there.  I frequently caught 2 fish at a time. Tight Lines, Jared Still, Oracle DBA RxNet, Division of Value Health "All opinions are mine, not my employers"

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I will be in the Saguenay-Lac Saint-Jean area of Quebec Canada in the 3rd week of June.  We will be fishing rivers and lakes(Lac Ha!Ha!) Any advice on flies, tippet sizes, and presentation for Quebec brook trout would be most appreciated.

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I will be in the Saguenay-Lac Saint-Jean area of Quebec Canada in the 3rd week of June.  We will be fishing rivers and lakes(Lac Ha!Ha!) Any advice on flies, tippet sizes, and presentation for Quebec brook trout would be most appreciated.

Dwight: The last time I fished the lake (hmmm – 5 years ago) the challenge was to find a fly that the brookies *wouldn’t* take! Four rods averaged close to 50 fish-on per day for the time we were up there, with the average size brookie around 2lbs, and the largest close to 5lbs. Most fish were taken in the late afternoon on dries of just about *any* style and size. For the most part these fish were not shy (guess that’s obvious) and I was using 5X and 6X tippets (depending on fly size) on 9 foot leaders… I’ve also fished many of the other (smaller) lakes in the Mistassini Reserve – there’s some great pike fishing up there (wire bite-guards were a must!) so if you get bored with the brookies there are other attractions worth going for… Have a great trip up there! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <           "Read this and nobody gets hurt"           < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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