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What weight rod is typically used when going after the fat Alberts?

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Peter, at least an 8 wt.  A 9 or 10 might be better because of the wind conditions if fishing from the island.  Most importantly, a reel with at least 200 yards of 20 lb. backing and a good disc drag.  HANG ON!! — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What weight rod is typically used when going after the fat Alberts?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What weight rod is typically used when going after the fat Alberts? A 9 wt is probably the most common, but I prefer a 10 wt. With a 10 wt you can really put the wood to a good size Albie. A large arbor such as a Tibor or Bauer is a big advantage. –tony

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Thanks for all responses. We are headed to Harkers Island at the end of October for our first try for the false albacore and were wondering about the tackle. Peter G. Aitken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What weight rod is typically used when going after the fat Alberts? A 9 wt is probably the most common, but I prefer a 10 wt. With a 10 wt you can really put the wood to a good size Albie. A large arbor such as a Tibor or Bauer is a big advantage. –tony

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What weight rod is typically used when going after the fat Alberts?

Do yourself, and the fish, a favor and forget the 8 and 9 weights and stick to the 10 wt.  Use a heavy tippet so you can pressure th efish and get it in quicker, they will fight until they are dead otherwise.  I am using 20 pound fluorocarbon for a tippet.  It makes a difference.  Also check out flies tied on circle hooks for albies.  Work great.  The fish don’t get off at all.  Check the flytying page on my site for a rundown of patterns I like to use.  Good luck. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Flyfishing guide, instructor and flytier.

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My uncle found a STEEL fly rod in his basement over the past weekend. He doesn’t fish, so he said that I could have it.  I haven’t seen it yet, but he says that it’s 7′6" or maybe even 8′ in length and is definitely a fly rod.  I’m hoping to pick it up tonight and check it out. Any ROFFians ever fished with a steel fly rod–and would they do it again? Is this a rare item?  Is it valuable or is it garbage? Tom Before you buy.

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A guide buddy of mine has an old steel telescoping fly rod (w/ reel). He says it is worth some $$. Don’t know how much though. Maybe take it to someone who deals in old rods for some idea of its worth. Never has fished with it I don’t think. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My uncle found a STEEL fly rod in his basement over the past weekend. He doesn’t fish, so he said that I could have it.  I haven’t seen it yet, but he says that it’s 7′6" or maybe even 8′ in length and is definitely a fly rod.  I’m hoping to pick it up tonight and check it out. Any ROFFians ever fished with a steel fly rod–and would they do it again? Is this a rare item?  Is it valuable or is it garbage? Tom Before you buy.

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Tom,    The first outfit I ever fished with was a rusty telescoping steel rod and a worn out level wind reel which caused more line tangles than I care to remember.  I hope I never have to do it again.  As to value, have you have seen the sign "We buy junk and sell antiques"? Ernie Tom wrote <snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any ROFFians ever fished with a steel fly rod–and would they do it again? Is this a rare item?  Is it valuable or is it garbage? Tom

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Tom, My first ‘fly rod’ was a telescoping steel model bought at Western Auto. It was a total abomination to cast, but the fact that it telescoped made it handy for fishing the small brooks I frequented at the time. I have no idea what it is worth……I suspect it will have some value as a curiosity. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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My uncle found a STEEL fly rod in his basement over the past weekend. He doesn’t fish, so he said that I could have it.  I haven’t seen it yet, but he says that it’s 7′6" or maybe even 8′ in length and is definitely a fly rod.  I’m hoping to pick it up tonight and check it out. Any ROFFians ever fished with a steel fly rod–and would they do it again? Is this a rare item?  Is it valuable or is it garbage? Tom

Well, it wasn’t a steel rod after all.  It was an old fiberglass rod painted silver.  The paint was worn off in places and the glass was a rust color so it kind of looked like a rusty metal rod. Another uncle does have a steel rod that looks like a fly rod with the handle and reel seat on backwards–fly rod-style guides/eyes and a cork handle but the reel seat is in the front…  an odd piece, I’d say. Tom Before you buy.

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Been doing some smallmouth fishing myself.  Its not well known out here; I had a number of trout fisherman try my drift without catching any trout at all.  Imagine that!   They gave up and left and I continued to catch an occasional 2lb smallie.  I have only recently discovered this fishery myself and it makes for  a really nice change of pace.  In fact I am going to leave the stone fly hatch on the South Fork to the YUFFIES and go looking for more smallie water.  I really like those fish… John.

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 The little 10 inch smallie inhaled Dale’s bug but Dianna was able to release with a twist of the wrist without lifting the fish from the water.  It was interesting to note that this section of river has excellent big Bluegill but all the strikes she had came from smallmouth!

I am sorry that the bluegill did not cooperate. I have a hard time testing the flies on smallmouth because there are so few around here. I am sure she had a smile on her face. Thanks for the trip report…I felt like I was there. Big Dale

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 At last, this past weekend saw the Rappahannock water levels fall enough to allow for safer wading.  My wife and I set out early (5:15 am) Sunday morning to be on the river before 6.  I had to make BIG promises about the rest of the day to get her up that time of the morning (4:30).  She actually beat me out the door and we arrived at the river as the sun was coming up over the river.  A long legged wading bird stood sentry on the water, his reflection mirrored in a quiet pool.  Two pair of Mallards moved noisily away from the bank as we walked down the trail.  Dianna carried the Connor rod to gain the advantage of the extra 2 ft. of rod length on this river and the extra weight of the line for larger smallmouth bugs.  I started with a Murray’s Leadeyed Hellgrammite behind an AirFlo super-fast sinking leader and 3 ft. of 1X tippet.  Dianna rigged the Connor up with a floating leader and a BIG DALE FOAM SPIDER.  Being nearly a foot shorter, Dianna fished closer to the bank and I took the middle of the river.  We worked downstream together.  She had the first three strikes and first fish.  Smallmouth bass were eager that morning.  The little 10 inch smallie inhaled Dale’s bug but Dianna was able to release with a twist of the wrist without lifting the fish from the water.  It was interesting to note that this section of river has excellent big Bluegill but all the strikes she had came from smallmouth!  In the meantime, I worked the deeper sloughs fishing the Hellgrammite across and down stripping back in slow twitches.  WHAM!!  A 14" fish!  WHAM!! his grandfather!   WHAM!! the fist fish’s sister/girlfriend (West Virginia?).  The morning was going beautifully.  Dianna paused after a few fish to sit on a large rock and just watch the river.  She spotted a muskrat swimming across and soon a Bald Eagle made his appearance. All fishing action stopped to watch that bird wing gracefully upriver. We fished a while longer then headed out to IHOP for a big breakfast of eggs and Harvest Grain and Nut pancakes.  The hubbub of civilization was just 5 minutes away from our wilderness jaunt on the river. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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At last, this past weekend saw the Rappahannock water levels fall enough to allow for safer wading.

        (neat report snipped) thanks for reviving some great memories of that gorgeous river! wayno

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thanks for reviving some great memories of that gorgeous river! wayno

We were fishing just about 200 yards downstream of where we were wading when Anthony caught his first smallie.  Warmer weather but that pink glow in the sky from sunrise and water temperature about 75.  Nice caddis hatch coming off. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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There is no upper platt river in colorado you idiot… — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

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Hey Loser, I went to the web site and it says you are supposed to make $5000/week. You didn’t even make half that.

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Make that 20 pounds, please – at least, with another 30 pounds to rub your fat spam face in! (not you Wayno!) David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/         rather than doing that, why don’t you just step up to the local privy, eat about a pound of shit, and die. wayno

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I love it – we all go to the web site and then comment here.  The loser spams all the NGs automatically and never looks at the responses 9 I think they are probably predictable!).  He sucks up the email addresses and sells them on (or tries, because like him we have spam robot-proofed our email addresses!).  Oh well it made me feel better having a go at him.  OTOH at least he could have said ‘while I was fly fishing…..’ cheers David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Loser, I went to the web site and it says you are supposed to make $5000/week. You didn’t even make half that. and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

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I made 200000 dollars last week while others where fly fishing…I stole a bunch of their cars…. who cooks up these schemes? edwin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/         rather than doing that, why don’t you just step up to the local privy, eat about a pound of shit, and die. wayno

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and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

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and if you’ll go visit my web page,  i’ll be fishing again next week…. you can go fishing too if you just do what i do   its free and easy http://www.secrets2success.com/special56180/

        rather than doing that, why don’t you just step up to the local privy, eat about a pound of shit, and die. wayno

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In 2 days, the auction for a Beautiful Hardy Marquis 6 Fly Fishing Reel – No Reserve – will be completed. Please check it out. Thanks!

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I’m looking to find a good fly fishing spot along the Delaware River Gap on the NJ/PA borders.  Has anyone fished this area and know of some good spots??  Suggestions on the Poconos Mtn. region will be greatly appreciated as well.  Thanks.

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By all means fish the fly-only portion of the Big Flatbrook in NJ. Actually a small river, and first class by any standard. Ive lived and fished in the West for the last 30 years but grew up in NJ.  Revisited Big flatbrook with my daughter last father’s day. Suggestions: Pick up the river near layton NJ. talk to the locals at the country store and note directions carefully becuz one of the bridges is (was?) out and the little roads are confusing. Walk in at least 1/4 mile downstream to get away from . . . .  You have to work at it. Lots of good fly men fish this river so forget the easy stuff. However, they are brookies and will take most anything IF you can get it to them. the fish are tight in the rootballs and assorted tangles, in the most oxiginated water. so be aggressive and lose some flys.  They are going to be heat stressed by August so get em back in quickly and gently.  I love this river and its a testiment to NJs stewardship Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to find a good fly fishing spot along the Delaware River Gap on the NJ/PA borders.  Has anyone fished this area and know of some good spots??  Suggestions on the Poconos Mtn. region will be greatly appreciated as well.  Thanks.

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Try Jacoby’s Creek in Portland.

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Carl, The Piru runs somewhere near the back side of  Piru Lake off of the 5frwy. I heard its very secluded in some areas but havent been there myself. may want to go up there before the sun dries it up though, its kinda small. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could you tell me about Piru creek above Santa Monica.  I havn’t heard of it. Thanks, Carl

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Not quite as close to Santa Monica as I thought. Piru Creek is located off I-5 in the Los Padres National Forest. From L.A. take I-5 North to Santa Clarita. Then go West on hwy 126. The creek flows into Lake Piru. Trout are stocked here by the DFG as long as there is enough water flow to support them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could you tell me about Piru creek above Santa Monica.  I havn’t heard of it. Thanks, Carl

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Piru creek, below pyramid dam,  off of golden state frwy at Templin highway. skip it on weekends.  fish very early. remember its in Angeles forest, requiring annual parking fee.

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Carl, The responses here have been a bit jumbled, so hear goes. Piru Creek flows out of the dam at Pyramid Lake, and, 14 miles later, into Lake Piru. Because it flows out of the dam, the flows are usually pretty good, may vary a little, and drop off some in summer, but sufficient to support a fishery. The DWP stocks in the Winter/spring month, but usually stops in summer. The secret is to fish the 2-mile wild trout section directly below the dam at Pyramid. Because it’s a so-called tailwater, it remains cold enough to support a population of wild trout. Not big trout, but very pretty trout. To the person who noted it was brushy, I’d put the emphasis on WAS. Due to the incredible amounts of rain and runoff flowing into Pyramid, the dam was repeatedly drawn down very rapidly. Essentially, Piru Creek and it’s narrow channel were flushed repeatedly and profoundly. I was up there not too long ago and barely recognized the place. Most of the brush and trees are gone, and the creek bed has been reshaped in many places. A lot of those little trout probably got flushed downstream too. Roger

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Hey Christian, I’ve been flyfishing in LA for about 4 years. I wont lie to you, its not paradise. But, if you’re not against catching smaller trout in the 12 inch range, it can be a lot of fun. There are about a half dozen creeks holding trout here, some with easy access and some requiring more of a hike. I am in the San Gabriel Valley so I usually go to the West Fork of the San Gabriel River. Its about 20 miles up highway 39 north from the 10 freeway. To get there from LA, you take the 10 west to Azusa Ave. about 30 miles from Los Angeles. This is hwy39, take it north for about 7-9 miles and you’ll hit the San Gabriel Mts. Up another 10 miles and you reach the San Gabriel bridge, if you turn right on this bridge, pass over the reservoir and head up about 5 miles you’ll reach the East fork. This can be ok sometimes but has been pretty slow lately and I’m not sure why. I hope it will wake up soon, was one of my favorites. To reach West Fork, you would go straight, past the San Gabriel bridge about a half mile and park just before you reach the next bridge. Not much parking and it can get pretty crowded but if you get there early, you can hike up a ways and avoid the crowds. I hope you don’t get turned off by the look of the place, it has been a bit abused with trash and graffiti but a little ways up (1 mile) it gets real nice. There are quite a few other Rivers you might try, Big Tujunga Rock Creek off of Hwy2, Piru creek above Santa Monica, and Bear creek out in San Bernardino county among others. These are just the ones I’ve visited. By the way, I have been looking for someone to fish with and expand my knowledge/understanding of the sport. I live in Covina, at the foot of the San Gabriels and could show you around if you’d like. If not, hope you enjoy yourself around here and remember, there’s always Bishop! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am from England but for the last year been living in Los Angeles. I am hoping to start fly fishing again but have no idea if there is anywhere in los angeles county I can pursue this. Maybe there are some locals who could point me in the right direction. I guess LA is not traditionally known for its fly fishing (!) but I guess there must be some where a few hours out of the city where I can fish. I also am undecided whether i will get my tackle sent from the UK or not, however I am tempted to buy a new rod and reel second hand. If someone has some tackle for sale I would be keen to hear about it. Thank You for your help.

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Could you tell me about Piru creek above Santa Monica.  I havn’t heard of it. Thanks, Carl

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Christian,         One possibility would be the Kern River (above Lake Isabella). If you like to hike (ie weekend trip), try the Upper Kern and the Golden Trout Wilderness.   You could also stay in Limestone Campground and take short walks up the Upper Kern starting from the Johnsondale Bridge.         You might want to get some river condition reports, since I understand the water is rather high and swift right now.         Best of luck.                                Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am from England but for the last year been living in Los Angeles. I am hoping to start fly fishing again but have no idea if there is anywhere in los angeles county I can pursue this. Maybe there are some locals who could point me in the right direction. I guess LA is not traditionally known for its fly fishing (!) but I guess there must be some where a few hours out of the city where I can fish. I also am undecided whether i will get my tackle sent from the UK or not, however I am tempted to buy a new rod and reel second hand. If someone has some tackle for sale I would be keen to hear about it. Thank You for your help.

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Me and my buddies fished Piru for the first time last year in late summer. Nice piece of water.  A little brushy:  a 7 foot 3 weight is the right tool for the job.  It’s proximity to LA means that on weekends it’s crowded and a bit trashy near the parking lot.  Go on a weekday and start your fishing day upstream where the C&R section starts (about 3/4 mile up from the parking lot, maybe more … its a bit of a walk, but it’s all paved road. If you have a bicycle, this is a good place to use it. At the time we were there, we had the best luck with size 14-16 dries with red bodies (royal wulff for example).  The fishing was pretty good (6-10 inches mostly) after we figured out what flies to use.  All in all, it’s not a bad little fishery considering it’s only about 35-40 miles or so from downtown LA) I had never experienced black flies before, did not even know what they were…they were small, just a slight annoyance and I couldn’t feel them biting me…boy did I learn my lesson.  Next day I had 40 mosquito sized bites that itched like hell for a week.  In other words, use your favorite insect repellent liberally. Personally,  I like Bear Creek in the San Bernardino Mtns. a lot better and though it’s possible to get down to it the dry season in a street car, I wouldn’t recommended it: two-wheel drive pick-up OK, 4WD best … and if your sensitive about the paint job be damn careful, the buckthorn along the road bites.–                                                       -dnc- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could you tell me about Piru creek above Santa Monica.  I havn’t heard of it. Thanks, Carl

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I am from England but for the last year been living in Los Angeles. I am hoping to start fly fishing again but have no idea if there is anywhere in los angeles county I can pursue this. Maybe there are some locals who could point me in the right direction. I guess LA is not traditionally known for its fly fishing (!) but I guess there must be some where a few hours out of the city where I can fish. I also am undecided whether i will get my tackle sent from the UK or not, however I am tempted to buy a new rod and reel second hand. If someone has some tackle for sale I would be keen to hear about it. Thank You for your help.

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Hi Dan – Glad to se you are on-line again. Missed you while you were out – but I went to ASU ! bob

Hey Bob, Sorry, didn’t mean it as a slam against ASU.  I was making fun of his "gotta get some weapons" post to the fly fishing newsgroup.  I just happened to know that Arizona State is in that area because my daughter lived in Mesa for a while.  I figured this guy was a student there and wondered if his parents knew what he was doing – possibly with the school money.  Didn’t mean anything by it  8^                                                Oops!                                                   Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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Hi Dan – Glad to se you are on-line again. Missed you while you were out – but I went to ASU ! bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (Allan Gay) writes:     I live in Arizona and I am looking into purchasing a crossbow just to shoot for fun and possibly at pigs during the handgun season.  If you have a used crossbow that you want to sell respond to me personally with a description of what crossbow you have and how much you are willing to sell it for.  I live in mesa, I am ready to buy right now, don’t waste time e-mailing me, I want to start shooting as soon as possible,  I pay in cash. with a description and whatever price you want for it.   I will get back to all of you.  I am serious, I am ready to pay cash right now for a recurve or crossbow or if you have both.  E-mail me right now for jims, any other cool toys you might have.  I do not personally want the slim jim but i have a friend who will pay for one and any books on how to use them.  e-mail me with any info on anything you want to sell, you might be surprised at what i will buy!!!!! You betcha!! we got ‘em.  Use ‘em mostly over here to shoot carp and squawfish.  Have a special today on the whitefish model though only for resident Montanans and Oregonians. YOu must be going to Arizona State right?  Does your mother know you are doing these things?????                                       8^                                            Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(Allan Gay) writes:     I live in Arizona and I am looking into purchasing a crossbow just to shoot for fun and possibly at pigs during the handgun season.  If you have a used crossbow that you want to sell respond to me personally with a description of what crossbow you have and how much you are willing to sell it for.  I live in mesa, I am ready to buy right now, don’t waste time e-mailing me, I want to start shooting as soon as possible,  I pay in cash. with a description and whatever price you want for it.   I will get back to all of you.  I am serious, I am ready to pay cash right now for a recurve or crossbow or if you have both.  E-mail me right now for jims, any other cool toys you might have.  I do not personally want the slim jim but i have a friend who will pay for one and any books on how to use them.  e-mail me with any info on anything you want to sell, you might be surprised at what i will buy!!!!!

You betcha!! we got ‘em.  Use ‘em mostly over here to shoot carp and squawfish.  Have a special today on the whitefish model though only for resident Montanans and Oregonians. YOu must be going to Arizona State right?  Does your mother know you are doing these things?????                                       8^                                            Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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     I live in Arizona and I am looking into purchasing a crossbow just to shoot for fun and possibly at pigs during the handgun season.  If you have a used crossbow that you want to sell respond to me personally with a description of what crossbow you have and how much you are willing to sell it for.  I live in mesa, I am ready to buy right now, don’t waste time e-mailing me, I want to start shooting as soon as possible,  I pay in cash. with a description and whatever price you want for it.   I will get back to all of you.  I am serious, I am ready to pay cash right now for a recurve or crossbow or if you have both.  E-mail me right now for  any other cool toys you might have.  I do not personally want the slim jim but i have a friend who will pay for one and any books on how to use them.  e-mail me with any info on anything you want to sell, you might be surprised at what i will buy!!!!!

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A buddy and I are planning a trip to Eugene, Ore. in mid-April. First of all, will the season be open and if so, where might be some good places I can fly fishing for trout while in the area. Access might be an issue, because I’m not sure how much time we’ll have. But any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Jeffrey: From the regs it looks like the trout season opens, generally, on April 27.  The are some options open year round, however.  The lower McKenzie, Middle Fork of the Willamette, North Fork of the Middle Fork of the Willamette, etc.  Additionally, a 1 1/2 to 2 hour drive gets you to the Metolious River which is open year round for catch and release fly fishing in the upper strech.  Probably, your best bet is to check w/ the local shops for better info than I have.  Try The Caddis Fly Shop ((541)342-7005) or Home Waters ((541)342-6691). Andy

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