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A friend is leaving our fishing committee after a number of years. We would like to mark the occasion with a gift. In some ways it is easy you can always find use for a cape, a reel, a fly box, a line, the list is endless… Perhaps a good strong fly box that could take a small inscription would be a permanent reminder, does anyone have any suggestions? — Ellis Morgan

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A friend is leaving our fishing committee after a number of years. We would like to mark the occasion with a gift. In some ways it is easy you can always find use for a cape, a reel, a fly box, a line, the list is endless… Perhaps a good strong fly box that could take a small inscription would be a permanent reminder, does anyone have any suggestions? — Ellis Morgan

I’ve seen Wheatly fly boxes that people have engraved. Paul

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I’ve used a UK company which specialises in fishing gifts: http://www.justfish.co.uk I’ve had resin fish for the wall, cards and fishing related ornaments etc.  The catalogue is pretty good, in fact I think they sent out a Xmas one recently – might be worth requesting one ?

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In reference to my previous post for justfish.co.uk, the resin fish sculptures are quite nice – they are not very big mind.  I ordered one last year for the wall – only 12 x 8 inches – under

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Lately, the outside of my left elbow is sore to the core. (I’m right handed)  I was told by some golfers that I may have ‘tennis elbow’.  Has anyone experienced this and what did you do for it?  I’m sure I’ll have to see the Doc, if it doesn’t go away.  Will it go away?? Thanks in advance!

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Lately, the outside of my left elbow is sore to the core. (I’m right handed)  I was told by some golfers that I may have ‘tennis elbow’.  Has anyone experienced this and what did you do for it?  I’m sure I’ll have to see the Doc, if it doesn’t go away.  Will it go away??

Do a web search on "lateral epicondylitis".  It’s not fun, that’s for sure.

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Lately, the outside of my left elbow is sore to the core. (I’m right handed)  I was told by some golfers that I may have ‘tennis elbow’.  Has anyone experienced this and what did you do for it?  I’m sure I’ll have to see the Doc, if it doesn’t go away.  Will it go away??

A couple of years ago I got tennis elbow in my right (racquet) arm by digging up trees in my yard.  I stupidly didn’t take much time off of tennis, and also didn’t get any treatment.  It took a long time to go away, but I eventually recovered completely.  I think I helped the healing by careful weightlifting that didn’t aggravate it.  One guy I used to play tennis with got it pretty bad.  He’s had physical therapy and cortisone shots, and is still trying to recover. I’ve had pain in my left arm for the last couple of months that I can only attribute to golf.  It sounds like what you have.  During the summer I was hitting a lot of balls each week, and also doing some cross-training to maintain strength and flexibility and ward off injury.  I may have overdone the practice regimen a bit.  I have one more tournament to play on 10/20, then I’m planning on rest and rehab over the winter to get rid of the pain.   – cja

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Lately, the outside of my left elbow is sore to the core. (I’m right handed)  I was told by some golfers that I may have ‘tennis elbow’.  Has anyone experienced this and what did you do for it?  I’m sure I’ll have to see the Doc, if it doesn’t go away.  Will it go away?? Do a web search on "lateral epicondylitis".  It’s not fun, that’s for sure.

And if that happens to be your problem, ask your pharmacist for the type of "armband" (some look like a U-shaped clamp) that redirects vibration away from your elbow. It won’t cure you (only rest will do that) but at least will alleviate further pain.

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I am currently suffering from a (left) tennis elbow as a result of a too strong grip while playing in the rain. I am getting physiotherapy but have been told that it may take anywhere between 3 months and 2 years to heal. Rest seems to do the trick. Certainly no more golf for the foreseeable future… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lately, the outside of my left elbow is sore to the core. (I’m right handed)  I was told by some golfers that I may have ‘tennis elbow’.  Has anyone experienced this and what did you do for it?  I’m sure I’ll have to see the Doc, if it doesn’t go away.  Will it go away?? Thanks in advance!

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This is bad news.  I’ve worked through this in both elbows. Definitely take measures now, or it can get a lot worse.  The things I have done, that are finally getting me fixed, after a year, are: 1) Ice the elbow thoroughly after golf or other activities which make it sore. 2) Stretch the tendons before.  There are web sites out there which can give you the stretches. 3) Weight training of the forearm.  I use 12 lb dumbells now, had to start with 2 lb. You want to lay your arm across your knee, palm down, and flex the hand backwards towards your elbow.  Do 15 reps with what ever weight you can.  Then turn the hand over, palm up, and curl your wrist with the same weight.  Do three or four times a week. 4) I had to give up golf and fly fishing for two months.  I gave it up for three weeks and then went back, and really made things worse. 5) Ibuprofen 6) Get a tennis elbow support strap.  Your local drug store should have one. Wear this while golfing or when doing other things that subject the elbow to impact.  You wear it just below the elbow, on the fat part of your forearm. It distributes stress to the muscle lower in your arm. Hope that helps.  Don’t ignore this, or it can become chronic. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lately, the outside of my left elbow is sore to the core. (I’m right handed)  I was told by some golfers that I may have ‘tennis elbow’.  Has anyone experienced this and what did you do for it?  I’m sure I’ll have to see the Doc, if it doesn’t go away.  Will it go away?? Thanks in advance!

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In addition to the excellent list of options below, I would taking Glucoseamaine Sulphate, which cured a very bad case of Tennis Elbow I had several years ago. would seem to take 60 days for benefits to appear. Cortisone shots help, but are not recommended until other treatments fail. — Bill Cochrane 416-284-8462

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is bad news.  I’ve worked through this in both elbows. Definitely take measures now, or it can get a lot worse.  The things I have done, that are finally getting me fixed, after a year, are: 1) Ice the elbow thoroughly after golf or other activities which make it sore. 2) Stretch the tendons before.  There are web sites out there which can give you the stretches. 3) Weight training of the forearm.  I use 12 lb dumbells now, had to start with 2 lb. You want to lay your arm across your knee, palm down, and flex the hand backwards towards your elbow.  Do 15 reps with what ever weight you can.  Then turn the hand over, palm up, and curl your wrist with the same weight.  Do three or four times a week. 4) I had to give up golf and fly fishing for two months.  I gave it up for three weeks and then went back, and really made things worse. 5) Ibuprofen 6) Get a tennis elbow support strap.  Your local drug store should have one. Wear this while golfing or when doing other things that subject the elbow to impact.  You wear it just below the elbow, on the fat part of your forearm. It distributes stress to the muscle lower in your arm. Hope that helps.  Don’t ignore this, or it can become chronic. Lately, the outside of my left elbow is sore to the core. (I’m right handed)  I was told by some golfers that I may have ‘tennis elbow’.  Has anyone experienced this and what did you do for it?  I’m sure I’ll have to see the Doc, if it doesn’t go away.  Will it go away?? Thanks in advance!

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I plan to fly fish Sunday from sun-up to sun-down on a western Washington river. The hunt is for pink salmon. Has anyone had much success on the Skykomish river this past week? I was on it three times last week and saw a LOT of fish jumping/rolling/striking on the surface. However, they were on the far bank and I was unable to reach them. The report that I heard yesterday indicated there are a ton of pink salmon in the rivers right now. The second destination is the Stillaquamish river, west of I-5. I understand that’s supposed to be a good spot for salmon as well. I hope the visibility is up this weekend. Thanks for any input, Ryan

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I plan to fly fish Sunday from sun-up to sun-down on a western Washington river. The hunt is for pink salmon. Has anyone had much success on the Skykomish river this past week? I was on it three times last week and saw a LOT of fish jumping/rolling/striking on the surface. However, they were on the far bank and I was unable to reach them. The report that I heard yesterday indicated there are a ton of pink salmon in the rivers right now. The second destination is the Stillaquamish river, west of I-5. I understand that’s supposed to be a good spot for salmon as well. I hope the visibility is up this weekend. Thanks for any input, Ryan

I just read a report that a guy and his partner caught 40 humpies in 4 hours last night on the lower Stilly. The fish are there. I’d be willing to bet that the lower Sky is pretty much the same. Darin

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Yeah, they’re there alright… I fished the Skykomish for a couple hours this weekend. Saw more fish than I’ve ever seen in my life. Didn’t get one hit. They must be thinking about getting a little instead of thinking about food.

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Its been a good for hatchery returns pretty much accross the board (Coho and Dog and Humpies). I unerstan the limit on steelhead hatchery returns to the grand Ronde was raised to 3. Dave

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OK, again I can’t keep my mouth (fingers?) shut.  I’ve been to the Stilly near I-5 three times in the last week, and in a word, it’s AWSOME.  The first day I stayed about an hour and a half, released a couple fish and took home 4 pinks.  All were bright and tasty.  The second day I took my son Andy with me and we spent a little longer, released more fish, and brought home 6.   Today I took Andy and a friend and it was better.  There were more fish and bigger fish.  Andy had a killer pattern that got him agressive strikes on 10 successive casts while I was next to him and hooked one fish per 20 casts.  Here’s a pattern for his fly: Hook:  TMC105 #4 (straight eye egg hook, heavy and short) Thread:  Hot pink. Eyes:  Small red Clouser style Tail:  Fuscia (pink) marabou, not too thick about 1.5 times the length of the body. Body:  Pink sparkle chenile We here in a pool below an island, and the fish were stacked up at the line between the two flows.  Others with non-pink flies and hardware were not catching nearly as many fish as I was, let alone the amazing catch Andy had.  My fly was the same as his, but without the eyes.  The strikes I got were gentle, not the attacks Andy was getting. Chas – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I plan to fly fish Sunday from sun-up to sun-down on a western Washington river. The hunt is for pink salmon. Has anyone had much success on the Skykomish river this past week? I was on it three times last week and saw a LOT of fish jumping/rolling/striking on the surface. However, they were on the far bank and I was unable to reach them. The report that I heard yesterday indicated there are a ton of pink salmon in the rivers right now. The second destination is the Stillaquamish river, west of I-5. I understand that’s supposed to be a good spot for salmon as well. I hope the visibility is up this weekend. Thanks for any input, Ryan

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I unerstan the limit on steelhead hatchery returns to the grand Ronde was raised to 3.

Hey, Dave, do you know if they’re basing that on fish counts over the dams, or are the temps in the Ronde already low enough to be bringing enough fish in to give them a good idea of returns on the Ronde? Reason I ask is that I’ve got a two week plus trip starting next Sunday, heading up to see my folks and my brother up in Tacoma (driving from Nevada City, California). In addition to seeing an M’s game in this historic season, eating some good sushi for a change, and hitting some old favorite watering holes, I’m going to be doing a helluva lot of fishing. I’m going to start with a couple days on the Klamath on the way up, maybe hitting the Kalama for an afternoon before arriving in Tacoma the night before my M’s game, but on the way back I want to spend serious time on the Deschutes and, if it’s happening, the Ronde (with, of course, a day or so on either the upper Sac, the McCloud, or the Klamath on the way back). Too much damn water between California and Washington! Every time I do this trip, I spend two months thinking about which rivers I want to hit! Tight lines and two more seasons with Edgar, – Sid

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Thanks for the reply. I feel like a regular already. I have been lurking for a couple of years. I’m fairly new to flyfishing and was having trouble getting my post to go through. I hope I can contribute in the future. I also hope to attend a clave sometime it sounds like fun.

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I hope I can contribute in the future. I also hope to attend a clave sometime it sounds like fun.

    for my part, i hope you reach both goals.  welcome to the nuthouse. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Whoooweee and likewise yeeehaaw!  That reply posted in seconds.  We may have a winner here. His wife in El Paso – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear fellas – figgered a "sorry" test message is a good place to re-test us.

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Dear fellas – figgered a "sorry" test message is a good place to re-test us.  We’ve been having terrible troubles trying to post replies.  It appears Southwestern Bell/Pacific Bell Internet updated their hardware and software and generally rearranged the furniture without telling anyone.  Everybody’s been having trouble.  On advice from another user, we changed news servers to news.flash.net and hoping that posts will go through.  This lurking business is the pits.  Was about to use voodoo or something, sprinkle salt on the phone lines, call in an exorcist…. Please let us know how this goes. Bob & his wife in El Paso

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A real sorry would be much more sincere. <g (I had to do it for Zimbo) — Charlie…

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A real sorry would be much more sincere. <g (I had to do it for Zimbo)

And I thank you from the bottom of my dweller –Steve

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listen, newbie: you call me sorry one more time and you’re *gonna* be!         wayno, the scourge of chambana   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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central PA. Third week of July. Need guide and/or boat rental info,

http://www.billsguideservice.com/ RichZ

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Where can I get a good online map that shows the rivers in the Glacier NP area? Thanks in advance!

Don’t know about an online map.  What you really want is the book "Fly Fishing the Blackfeet Country" by Robert F. Fairchild.  I think the best fly fishing in the lower 48 is in the lakes of the Blackfeet reservation, which is everything east of Glacier for about an hours drive.  The rivers of the Blackfeet Res also have some decent fishing if you are into smaller fish.  If fishing is your thing instead of site seeing, I wouldn’t even bother with the park proper.  A tribal fishing permit costs about $35/yr.  No state licenses are required while on the reservation.

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Where can I get a good online map that shows the rivers in the Glacier NP area? Thanks in advance!

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writes: Where can I get a good online map that shows the rivers in the Glacier NP area? Thanks in advance!

Hey, Timbo.  Judging by the address, you should probably handle this one. Is he family?   <G Dave L.      —–  Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free Usenet News via the Web  —–      —–  http://newsone.net/ —  Discussions on every subject. —–    NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam.  If this or other posts

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BEAUTIFUL MATERIAL FISH PERSON . Does he yell a lot on it? BWAHAHAHAHA, Amanda

WELL ACTUALLY IT DOES CONTAIN A WONDERFUL QUOTE FROM OHIO MUSIC MAG. BABYMASH. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  ..personally I feel Glenn is one of New Zealands most diverse & creative  artists. Liz Barry NZ National Radio.  Buy babymash now $15 NZ  $10 U.S.  Website being created.  He who thinks he knows deosn’t know  He who knows he deosn’t know knows.  Joseph Campbell.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is the first poem I ever wrote. SPRING FEVER Winter winds and winter snows are gone and it is spring. A time to think of other things, fishing is the thing. The thing that sets us wandering to rivers, lakes and streams. To catch a spec. a bow or brown, fulfilling idle dreams. We’ve spent all winter tying the flies we’re going to use. Now the time has come again to decide what fly to choose. The choice is made, I tie it on with fingers stiff and cold I cast it out. The cast is good .I watch the line unfold. The offering is accepted. The battle has begun. Taking line down river it makes a desperate run. A mighty leap, a splash. The fish has won. I hope you have a day job. Now I’ll know to believe it when someone calls you a wanker. Bitch. You can only be insulted if you want to be. I know of you and your tactics and will not be drawn into some infantile slap fight.

WELL YES SCOOTER SHE IS ON THE NET SO THAT IS INCREDIBLE FOR YOU TO OBSERVE THAT YOU KNOW OF HER. TACTICS, WHAT TACTICS PARANOID MAN AHHH EXCELLENT, CAN’T SMILE CAN’T LAUGH MISERABLE PRICK. BABYMASH.

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BEAUTIFUL MATERIAL FISH PERSON .

Yes, it was nice, in a "polaroid snapshot" kind of way. While yours was nice in a "throw paint on the canvass and writhe around in it" kind of way. Reading one straight after the other requires a shift in astral planes, so to speak. Dave — ** Please remove the -anon if replying by email **

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is the first poem I ever wrote. SPRING FEVER Winter winds and winter snows are gone and it is spring. A time to think of other things, fishing is the thing. The thing that sets us wandering to rivers, lakes and streams. To catch a spec. a bow or brown, fulfilling idle dreams. We’ve spent all winter tying the flies we’re going to use. Now the time has come again to decide what fly to choose. The choice is made, I tie it on with fingers stiff and cold I cast it out. The cast is good .I watch the line unfold. The offering is accepted. The battle has begun. Taking line down river it makes a desperate run. A mighty leap, a splash. The fish has won. I hope you have a day job. That wasnt very nice or considerate whatsoever. P&G Koebel said that it was the first poem she ever made, and poetry is a very personal art. Sharing her poem with us is a way of sharing her innermost intimate feelings with us. Whether it was to your liking or not is irrelevant, due to the fact that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially when it comes to art. The point was she wanted to open up and share her poetic side. Insult is not a proper response to such a vulnerable action. Besides, she never mentioned anything about considering or making any living out of her poetry. Thank you for your kind and considerate reply. I am sorry if you want to take offense at my post but I know from experience that people can, and do, take offense at virtually anything someone says. THE HYPOCRACY ROCKS ON CHILDREN, I HAVE ALONG WITH MOST DEALT WITH THE FACT YOU ARE A FUCKWIT LONG AGO, MOST OF US NOW FIND YOU A GOOD DAMNED LAUGH AFTER A HARD DAYS GRIND. BABYMASH. Please cease the flamming, Glen. Its apparent that you mean well, but it must end. — Dominus vobiscum. Et cum spiritu tuo. Amen.

GO BASH WHATEVER IT IS SOMEWHERE ELSE BIBLICAL HERO MAN, CLASSIC. BABYMASH. YES SIR.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now I’ll know to believe it when someone calls you a wanker. Bitch. You can only be insulted if you want to be. I know of you and your tactics and will not be drawn into some infantile slap fight. Scooter has always been a fuckwit don’t even bother listening to him. As Mr Beckett once said "The day shone on the nothing new" that about sums him up. And you Timothy Wood have always been a self opinionated little halfwitted fool. Furthermore, along with the fact you are unable to express yourself fully in the english language without resorting to the use of obscenities, you are also unable to competently punctuate your eructations. Your post above, with literary allusion, only serves to prove my point. Well, im not agreeing with Scooter, but he has a point. Please, dont get me wrong. Im not siding with him or anyone, i just think that pointless flaming is absurd and unnessesary. Just let it be and let it end. Otherwise the flaming will just continue and its not fair to subject everyone else in the newsgroup to reading such harsh and offensive material. — Dominus vobiscum. Et cum spiritu tuo. Amen.

DON’T FUUUUUUUUUUCK FUCK FUCKING READ IT, TELL GOD I DON’T LIKE HIM MUCH EITHER OFFICER NOB HEHE, YOU NEED TO TUNE IN TO THOSE BUDDIES OF MINE ON THE HAVOC SHOW AND LIVE. BABYMASH.

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Does he yell a lot on it?

Only when AHH! he can’t help AHH! it! Ahhh! Ahh! Ahhhhhhhhhh! Cliff — Cliff Pratt, CAP Consulting Web build, web design. HTML, Javascript, CGI, ASP, Web Consulting

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now I’ll know to believe it when someone calls you a wanker. Bitch. You can only be insulted if you want to be. I know of you and your tactics and will not be drawn into some infantile slap fight. Scooter has always been a fuckwit don’t even bother listening to him. As Mr Beckett once said "The day shone on the nothing new" that about sums him up. And you Timothy Wood have always been a self opinionated little halfwitted fool. Furthermore, along with the fact you are unable to express yourself fully in the english language without resorting to the use of obscenities, you are also unable to competently punctuate your eructations. Your post above, with literary allusion, only serves to prove my point.

GO SCOOTS BABY, JESUS FUCK CHECK OUT THE DSM AND LOOK YOURSELF UP UNDER PERSONALITY DISORDER. BABYMASH.

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I feel it like a migraine asleep in the rain A dreamer in the lake of rhymes and of slave Then the sun shines, glowing at my skin Touched by the crying violin Dust born of my body Stains burning within soul on fire There is no time to waste now I can never recover in time for death This means spring time  I must explore within myself Peace is the only choice Friends can they know what level I die inside lord It cannot matter or you’ll die I love you And as the sad singer moves, aclipsed by his own mortality only light can save us Smile said the man with the juggler jump Swing in the scenery said the one unafraid of love Dance said the artist to the concrete thinker Grade like chickens from hell Factory and an afternoon nap Lovers in the midst of the perfect taste of truth To face the call of life Dear universe devine The industries of life cannot count I’ts not an injury It’s life this movement so fascinating Oh the closeness I can’t undertand I can never pretend I do I love you friend of people Proud to be smiling at those around you forever feeling the fear You march on. BABYMASH. — ..personally I feel Glenn is one of New Zealands most diverse & creative artists. Liz Barry NZ National Radio. Buy babymash now $15 NZ  $10 U.S. Website being created. He who thinks he knows deosn’t know He who knows he deosn’t know knows. Joseph Campbell.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -This is the first poem I ever wrote. SPRING FEVER Winter winds and winter snows are gone and it is spring. A time to think of other things, fishing is the thing. The thing that sets us wandering to rivers, lakes and streams. To catch a spec. a bow or brown, fulfilling idle dreams. We’ve spent all winter tying the flies we’re going to use. Now the time has come again to decide what fly to choose. The choice is made, I tie it on with fingers stiff and cold I cast it out. The cast is good .I watch the line unfold. The offering is accepted. The battle has begun. Taking line down river it makes a desperate run. A mighty leap, a splash. The fish has won. As you can tell I love fishing as well.

I love fishing as well.. Probably the reason Im glum lately..Not fishing season. Reading your poem..made me think of the Walleye that got away this summer.Ill be back there god willing:-) Can I share your poem with my dad?If so include author name as you would want it to be recieved. thanks for a touch of spring in this cold winter. Charla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I feel it like a migraine asleep in the rain A dreamer in the lake of rhymes and of slave Then the sun shines, glowing at my skin Touched by the crying violin Dust born of my body Stains burning within soul on fire There is no time to waste now I can never recover in time for death This means spring time  I must explore within myself Peace is the only choice Friends can they know what level I die inside lord It cannot matter or you’ll die I love you And as the sad singer moves, aclipsed by his own mortality only light can save us Smile said the man with the juggler jump Swing in the scenery said the one unafraid of love Dance said the artist to the concrete thinker Grade like chickens from hell Factory and an afternoon nap Lovers in the midst of the perfect taste of truth To face the call of life Dear universe devine The industries of life cannot count I’ts not an injury It’s life this movement so fascinating Oh the closeness I can’t undertand I can never pretend I do I love you friend of people Proud to be smiling at those around you forever feeling the fear You march on. BABYMASH.

I enjoyed this also, Thanks for sharing Charla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — ..personally I feel Glenn is one of New Zealands most diverse & creative artists. Liz Barry NZ National Radio. Buy babymash now $15 NZ  $10 U.S. Website being created. He who thinks he knows deosn’t know He who knows he deosn’t know knows. Joseph Campbell.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is the first poem I ever wrote. SPRING FEVER Winter winds and winter snows are gone and it is spring. A time to think of other things, fishing is the thing. The thing that sets us wandering to rivers, lakes and streams. To catch a spec. a bow or brown, fulfilling idle dreams. We’ve spent all winter tying the flies we’re going to use. Now the time has come again to decide what fly to choose. The choice is made, I tie it on with fingers stiff and cold I cast it out. The cast is good .I watch the line unfold. The offering is accepted. The battle has begun. Taking line down river it makes a desperate run. A mighty leap, a splash. The fish has won. I hope you have a day job. That wasnt very nice or considerate whatsoever. P&G Koebel said that it was the first poem she ever made, and poetry is a very personal art. Sharing her poem with us is a way of sharing her innermost intimate feelings with us. Whether it was to your liking or not is irrelevant, due to the fact that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially when it comes to art. The point was she wanted to open up and share her poetic side. Insult is not a proper response to such a vulnerable action. Besides, she never mentioned anything about considering or making any living out of her poetry. Thank you for your kind and considerate reply. I am sorry if you want to take offense at my post but I know from experience that people can, and do, take offense at virtually anything someone says.

THE HYPOCRACY ROCKS ON CHILDREN, I HAVE ALONG WITH MOST DEALT WITH THE FACT YOU ARE A FUCKWIT LONG AGO, MOST OF US NOW FIND YOU A GOOD DAMNED LAUGH AFTER A HARD DAYS GRIND. BABYMASH.

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This is being cross-posted and is bringing in some rude people so let’s just ignore them.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is the first poem I ever wrote. SPRING FEVER Winter winds and winter snows are gone and it is spring. A time to think of other things, fishing is the thing. The thing that sets us wandering to rivers, lakes and streams. To catch a spec. a bow or brown, fulfilling idle dreams. We’ve spent all winter tying the flies we’re going to use. Now the time has come again to decide what fly to choose. The choice is made, I tie it on with fingers stiff and cold I cast it out. The cast is good .I watch the line unfold. The offering is accepted. The battle has begun. Taking line down river it makes a desperate run. A mighty leap, a splash. The fish has won. I hope you have a day job. That wasnt very nice or considerate whatsoever. P&G Koebel said that it was the first poem she ever made, and poetry is a very personal art. Sharing her poem with us is a way of sharing her innermost intimate feelings with us. Whether it was to your liking or not is irrelevant, due to the fact that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially when it comes to art. The point was she wanted to open up and share her poetic side. Insult is not a proper response to such a vulnerable action. Besides, she never mentioned anything about considering or making any living out of her poetry. Thank you for your kind and considerate reply. I am sorry if you want to take offense at my post but I know from experience that people can, and do, take offense at virtually anything someone says. THE HYPOCRACY ROCKS ON CHILDREN, I HAVE ALONG WITH MOST DEALT WITH THE FACT YOU ARE A FUCKWIT LONG AGO, MOST OF US NOW FIND YOU A GOOD DAMNED LAUGH AFTER A HARD DAYS GRIND. BABYMASH.

Please cease the flamming, Glen. Its apparent that you mean well, but it must end. — Dominus vobiscum. Et cum spiritu tuo. Amen. ICQ# 27941899 "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a time of moral crisis, remain neutral" -Dante

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[snipped poem] I hope you have a day job. Now I’ll know to believe it when someone calls you a wanker. Bitch. You can only be insulted if you want to be. I know of you and your tactics and will not be drawn into some infantile slap fight.

I think she did. I beleave that if you would have removed the "bitch" part, it would have demonstrated some integrity. Just an observation. — Dominus vobiscum. Et cum spiritu tuo. Amen. ICQ# 27941899 "Such a fragile organ, the brain." -Tojira, swamp queen

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BEAUTIFUL MATERIAL FISH PERSON .

Does he yell a lot on it? BWAHAHAHAHA, Amanda  ..personally I feel Glenn is one of New Zealands most diverse & creative  artists. Liz Barry NZ National Radio.  Buy babymash now $15 NZ  $10 U.S.  Website being created.  He who thinks he knows deosn’t know  He who knows he deosn’t know knows.  Joseph Campbell.

"Let us so endeavor to eat a lot while we’re alive so they’ll have to bury us in a piano crate. Boy, will that undertaker be sorry."          - Mark Twain.

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I Now I’ll know to believe it when someone calls you a wanker. Bitch. You can only be insulted if you want to be. I know of you and your tactics and will not be drawn into some infantile slap fight.

Scooter has always been a fuckwit don’t even bother listening to him. As Mr Beckett once said "The day shone on the nothing new" that about sums him up.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [snipped poem] I hope you have a day job. Now I’ll know to believe it when someone calls you a wanker. Bitch. You can only be insulted if you want to be. I know of you and your tactics and will not be drawn into some infantile slap fight. I think she did. I beleave that if you would have removed the "bitch" part, it would have demonstrated some integrity. Just an observation.

WATCH OUT MAN. SCOOTER IS LIKE A BABYMASH WITH NO SPIRIT, NO HUMOUR AND VERY PERSONAL AND NASTY, IT’S WELL KNOWN BROTHER. BABYMASH.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now I’ll know to believe it when someone calls you a wanker. Bitch. You can only be insulted if you want to be. I know of you and your tactics and will not be drawn into some infantile slap fight. Scooter has always been a fuckwit don’t even bother listening to him. As Mr Beckett once said "The day shone on the nothing new" that about sums him up. And you Timothy Wood have always been a self opinionated little halfwitted fool. Furthermore, along with the fact you are unable to express yourself fully in the english language without resorting to the use of obscenities, you are also unable to competently punctuate your eructations. Your post above, with literary allusion, only serves to prove my point.

Well, im not agreeing with Scooter, but he has a point. Please, dont get me wrong. Im not siding with him or anyone, i just think that pointless flaming is absurd and unnessesary. Just let it be and let it end. Otherwise the flaming will just continue and its not fair to subject everyone else in the newsgroup to reading such harsh and offensive material. — Dominus vobiscum. Et cum spiritu tuo. Amen. ICQ# 27941899 Only the warrior who can admit mortal weakness will be bolstered by immortal strength.

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BEAUTIFUL MATERIAL FISH PERSON .  ..personally I feel Glenn is one of New Zealands most diverse & creative  artists. Liz Barry NZ National Radio.  Buy babymash now $15 NZ  $10 U.S.  Website being created.  He who thinks he knows deosn’t know  He who knows he deosn’t know knows.  Joseph Campbell.

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I hope you have a day job.

OH GOD, IS THAT SCROTUM SCOOTER BEING THE POSITIVE CHAP HE IS AGAIN. BABYMASH.

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GO EDDIE . BABYMASH.

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[snip P&G's poem] I hope you have a day job. That wasnt very nice or considerate whatsoever. P&G Koebel said that it was the first poem she ever made, and poetry is a very personal art. Sharing her poem with us is a way of sharing her innermost intimate feelings with us. Whether it was to your liking or not is irrelevant, due to the fact that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially when it comes to art. The point was she wanted to open up and share her poetic side. Insult is not a proper response to such a vulnerable action. Besides, she never mentioned anything about considering or making any living out of her poetry. Thank you for your kind and considerate reply.

We all make mistakes and we should take that into consideration at all times. Compassion. I am sorry if you want to take offense at my post but I know from experience that people can, and do, take offense at virtually anything someone says.

I just thought it was meant to be a cruel stab. A smiley face at the end would have explained that it was joke. Bu maybe what you should have said, was "personally i dont find it appealing and advise you not to consider making a career out of it"? Yes, human beings and their sensitivities. Tell me about it. — Dominus vobiscum. Et cum spiritu tuo. Amen. ICQ# 27941899 History is the study of repetition.

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This is the first poem I ever wrote.  SPRING FEVER Winter winds and winter snows are gone and it is spring. A time to think of other things, fishing is the thing. The thing that sets us wandering to rivers, lakes and streams. To catch a spec. a bow or brown, fulfilling idle dreams. We’ve spent all winter tying the flies we’re going to use. Now the time has come again to decide what fly to choose. The choice is made, I tie it on with fingers stiff and cold I cast it out. The cast is good .I watch the line unfold. The offering is accepted. The battle has begun. Taking line down river it makes a desperate run. A mighty leap, a splash. The fish has won. As you can tell I love fishing as well.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I feel it like a migraine asleep in the rain A dreamer in the lake of rhymes and of slave Then the sun shines, glowing at my skin Touched by the crying violin Dust born of my body Stains burning within soul on fire There is no time to waste now I can never recover in time for death This means spring time  I must explore within myself Peace is the only choice Friends can they know what level I die inside lord It cannot matter or you’ll die I love you And as the sad singer moves, aclipsed by his own mortality only light can save us Smile said the man with the juggler jump Swing in the scenery said the one unafraid of love Dance said the artist to the concrete thinker Grade like chickens from hell Factory and an afternoon nap Lovers in the midst of the perfect taste of truth To face the call of life Dear universe devine The industries of life cannot count I’ts not an injury It’s life this movement so fascinating Oh the closeness I can’t undertand I can never pretend I do I love you friend of people Proud to be smiling at those around you forever feeling the fear You march on. BABYMASH. — ..personally I feel Glenn is one of New Zealands most diverse & creative artists. Liz Barry NZ National Radio. Buy babymash now $15 NZ  $10 U.S. Website being created. He who thinks he knows deosn’t know He who knows he deosn’t know knows. Joseph Campbell.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is the first poem I ever wrote. SPRING FEVER Winter winds and winter snows are gone and it is spring. A time to think of other things, fishing is the thing. The thing that sets us wandering to rivers, lakes and streams. To catch a spec. a bow or brown, fulfilling idle dreams. We’ve spent all winter tying the flies we’re going to use. Now the time has come again to decide what fly to choose. The choice is made, I tie it on with fingers stiff and cold I cast it out. The cast is good .I watch the line unfold. The offering is accepted. The battle has begun. Taking line down river it makes a desperate run. A mighty leap, a splash. The fish has won. I hope you have a day job.

That wasnt very nice or considerate whatsoever. P&G Koebel said that it was the first poem she ever made, and poetry is a very personal art. Sharing her poem with us is a way of sharing her innermost intimate feelings with us. Whether it was to your liking or not is irrelevant, due to the fact that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, especially when it comes to art. The point was she wanted to open up and share her poetic side. Insult is not a proper response to such a vulnerable action. Besides, she never mentioned anything about considering or making any living out of her poetry. — Dominus vobiscum. Et cum spiritu tuo. Amen. ICQ# 27941899 The imp, unaware of its own odor, paused to catch its breath…and promptly died.

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Planning a trip next Jan/Feb … would be interested in opinions on the top spots on South Island for good flyfishing … plan on doing a little guided and a little on-my-own fishing … love rivers over lakes always … thanks

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Planning a trip next Jan/Feb … would be interested in opinions on the top spots on South Island for good flyfishing … plan on doing a little guided and a little on-my-own fishing … love rivers over lakes always … thanks

John, I’ve been to the South Island twice.  (You can read about it on my web site www.geocities.com/yosemite/falls/3363   with pictures.  The thumbnails will load a larger image if you click on them). There’s a lot to recommend about just about anywhere on the South Island. Most of my experience is in Otago (out of Wanaka) and Southlands (north of Gore). Absolute must stop is the Mataura river.  Can recommend guides to you if you email me. Michael

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I can recommend the Mataura River (the evening rise is spectacular), and also the Hurunui River if it has a good flow…unlikely at that time of year. Most of us Sth Islanders fish the lakes over summer, as the braided rivers are very low.  Try Lakes Hawea and Tekapo in Otago.  The West Coast gets most of the rain, so rivers like the Grey will fish well, but get a guide for these. Tight Lines Greg Christchurch, NZ — FREEDOM is neither a state of mind, nor a state of being. Rather, it is an essential part of every living persons’ existence

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Piragis, the Boundary Waters Catalog people, offer a fishing rod holder that clamps to the gunwale.  I’ve used it for spinning and baitcasting rigs and I think it’ll hold a flyrod.  You can call them at 1-800-223-6565.  They also have a web site: http://www.piragis.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone have any ideas on where to get or how to make fly rod holders for a canoe? — Paul Bunchuk Ft. Lauderdale, Fl

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Anyone have any ideas on where to get or how to make fly rod holders for a canoe? — Paul Bunchuk Ft. Lauderdale, Fl

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Fly-fishing is for faggits.

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Fly-fishing is for faggits.

Well, there are ’some around’ I’m sure that will be glad to talk to you about any kind of fly fishing you have in mind. Mr. Gink

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Fly-fishing is for faggits. Well, there are ’some around’ I’m sure that will be glad to talk to you about any kind of fly fishing you have in mind. Mr. Gink

Mr. Tiger didn’t join the military because he didn’t want to leave his brother’s behind. —        * * *  Some days I’d rather just give up and go fishing * * * Doug Freeman

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Fly-fishing is for faggits.

That’s right, so you better keep that cute little rump of yours away from my drift… TimW

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Fly-fishing is for faggits.

– And LSU is for the spelling disabled!!!! jg

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…college men from LSU     went in dumb, come out dumb too! R. Neuman,"Rednecks" 1974

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: : Fly-fishing is for faggits. : Someone once told me two things about LSU. First, the entrance requirements are so low that some can get in with nothing more than an expired driver’s license. Second, most LSU grads go to Mississippi and by doing so raise the I.Q. of both states. It appears from tiger’s post that at least the former is true. Kind regards, Steve Kernosky

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u know what ‘faggots’ were before they became ‘faggots’?….bait fishermen

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Fly-fishing is for faggits.

That’s probably why you chose LSU, Tiger. You can spell that correctly!

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Fly-fishing is for faggits.

                                                ^^^^-nice spelling and bait fishing is for CRETINS. Hopefully you will never flyfish, because all we need is one more Heathen on our rivers. Oh by the way, do you want to go out and do a little snagging??? Eat my fly pal.

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Fly-fishing is for faggits.

jvermil !  Thanks, very much.   You are absolutely correct !!! Thanks for pointing it out, we owe you one ! Just look at *all* the FAGGIT terms in the Flyfishing vocabulary… "Drag" "Rod Action" "Line Lubricant" "Leader Butt" "Sperm Flies" "Vise" (I have to stop, it’s grossing me out…) Yup, the whole sport is a cover-up for closet benuches.   No doubt about it.   Thanks for pointing it out.   ..and I still think you have a really nice rump. Your fantasy net lover, TimW

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Fly-fishing is for faggits.

Yes, Shall we meet. I’m 215 lbs 6 ft tall and horny.   Do  "YOU" squeal like a  pig? Woof  woof  Arrp!! R

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