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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I are college professors who are retiring this month. We’d like to cruise. We are currently shopping for an older Prout 37. Meanwhile, we need to improve our sailing skills. Could we barter you teaching us to sail for us teaching you our skills? Our competencies include: computer skills (both of us have extensive teaching experience), writing (wife has experience in teaching composition), fly-fishing (husband has 30 years of teaching experience) References available. We have motor home in Orlando, Florida, will travel to you. or Cell phone: 541.953.7081

Ahoy Captain Bob: Live in Cocoa, FL area so just east of Orlando.  When I turned 40 took a break from job–a "sabbatical" that turned into ALL seven years.  During that time did a lot of sailing.  One trip was Gibraltar to Barbados as crew on a Prout 37! No longer own a boat<sigh but will trade knowledge for chance to sail<grin. Allan "He who would go to sea for pleasure, would go to hell for a pastime."                          -old British saying

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My wife and I are college professors who are retiring this month. We’d like to cruise. We are currently shopping for an older Prout 37. Meanwhile, we need to improve our sailing skills. Could we barter you teaching us to sail for us teaching you our skills? Our competencies include: computer skills (both of us have extensive teaching experience), writing (wife has experience in teaching composition), fly-fishing (husband has 30 years of teaching experience) References available. We have motor home in Orlando, Florida, will travel to you. or Cell phone: 541.953.7081

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For years I dreamed daily (almost continuously) of buying a Prout 37 or 39 and taking off.  When the time came, however, we chose a PDQ36 as being more appropriate for the type of cruising we’re doing – mostly ICW and coastal. At the boatshow where we made our final decision PDQ and Prout were next to each other – we went back and forth between them and kept concluding the PDQ was a better fit.  We’ve had no regrets, though during those rare moments that I dream about sailing around the world, its in a Prout 45! -jeff "The sport that requires the least effort" Albert Einstein on Sailing

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I are college professors who are retiring this month. We’d like to cruise. We are currently shopping for an older Prout 37. Meanwhile, we need to improve our sailing skills. Could we barter you teaching us to sail for us teaching you our skills? Our competencies include: computer skills (both of us have extensive teaching experience), writing (wife has experience in teaching composition), fly-fishing (husband has 30 years of teaching experience) References available. We have motor home in Orlando, Florida, will travel to you. or Cell phone: 541.953.7081

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In San Francisco, some years back, a woman was arrested because she had a live hand grenade in her purse. There was a fishing line leading from her belt to the pin, so that if someone snatched her purse, it would shortly explode, killing the purse snatcher. While I do not feel too bad about the purse snatcher, as the police pointed out, there might be considerable carnage among innocent bystanders. I don’t remember what the legal outcome of the case was, probably an "illegal possession" charge. Boyd — "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity." (Ellen Parr- author) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just to support an earlier statement… see men leave the privates alone…… Mike A Purse-Snatcher’s Worse Nightmare? ROME (Reuters) – Being caught and surrounded by an entire rugby team may just be one of a purse-snatcher’s worst nightmares. And yet, it happened for real to a man who snatched a woman’s purse in the northern Italian city of Bologna. The snatching happened close to a hotel where Serie A teams Benetton Treviso and Fly Flot Cavisano were about to hold a news conference. The pickpocket was spotted by two Benetton team members who ran after him, Italy’s Rugby Federation said in a statement. The two — Andrea Gritti and Massimiliano Perziano — are both full internationals. Lock forward Gritti is two meters tall and weighs an imposing 107 kg while winger Perziano is one of the quickest players in the country. The purse-snatcher, followed by the two players, sought refuge in a kindergarten, which was quickly surrounded by the whole Benetton team. The man was arrested a few minutes later by police. Benetton Treviso and Fly Flot Cavisano are due to play the decisive game for the Serie A championship title on Saturday. All opinions expressed are mine unless otherwise noted. Copyright

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Hm…..it shows as 10:30 a.m., Tuesday on my server.  Truth to tell, I no longer remember when I actually sent that particular message and reference to any sort of clock would now appear to be of little help.      

We could be talking about different messages. It wouldn’t be the first time I expect. <g — Charlie…

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My server says it came in at 8:43 a.m. on Tuesday; not quite two hours before I wrote the message to which he was responding. I must not see all the messages; what appears on my server to be the message he responded to shows being sent at 11:30 (EDT) on Monday.

Hm…..it shows as 10:30 a.m., Tuesday on my server.  Truth to tell, I no longer remember when I actually sent that particular message and reference to any sort of clock would now appear to be of little help.       Wolfgang who, according to the watch on his left wrist is hitting the send button at exactly 11:02 a.m. CDT on wednesday, 18 april, 2001.

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My server says it came in at 8:43 a.m. on Tuesday; not quite two hours before I wrote the message to which he was responding.

I must not see all the messages; what appears on my server to be the message he responded to shows being sent at 11:30 (EDT) on Monday. — Charlie…

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Moreover, as this latest missive seems to have arrived some two hours before the post to which you were responding, extra credit is being given for prescience.  I concede!        :) According to my server it was 22 hours after, not 2 hours before.

My server says it came in at 8:43 a.m. on Tuesday; not quite two hours before I wrote the message to which he was responding. Not-quite-parrallel universes?

Probably just a parallax error. Wolfgang

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(bizarre exchange snipped) Man, I knew i was in for trouble as soon as I hit that send button. I must have gotten a bad bottle of merlot. With any luck, that post is buried so deep in such an old and uninteresting thread, that very few will see it. As for you others, I know I wrote bad things in bad style. I take responsibility. Bring down your ire! sean

No points will be deducted for style.  Moreover, as this latest missive seems to have arrived some two hours before the post to which you were responding, extra credit is being given for prescience.  I concede!        :) Wolfgang never wrestle with a fatidical

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Moreover, as this latest missive seems to have arrived some two hours before the post to which you were responding, extra credit is being given for prescience.  I concede!        :)

According to my server it was 22 hours after, not 2 hours before. Not-quite-parrallel universes? — Charlie…

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(bizarre exchange snipped) Man, I knew i was in for trouble as soon as I hit that send button. I must have gotten a bad bottle of merlot. With any luck, that post is buried so deep in such an old and uninteresting thread, that very few will see it. As for you others, I know I wrote bad things in bad style. I take responsibility. Bring down your ire! sean

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Never again will I take seriously anyone here who wags their self-righteous finger at me or anyone else about wasting bandwidth about politics, weather, sex, or God for bide FF’ing or any other fucking thing.  The amount of BW pissed down the rat hole chasing Ginks crap all over cyberspace is stunning. You poor SOB’s are eating out of his dirty little paws and it’s rather sad. Harry Mason There is Sale going on,have a look    www.Troutflies.com

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Never again will I take seriously anyone here who wags their self-righteous finger at me or anyone else about wasting bandwidth about politics, weather, sex, or God for bide FF’ing or any other fucking thing. The amount of BW pissed down the rat hole chasing Ginks crap all over cyberspace is stunning. You poor SOB’s are eating out of his dirty little paws and it’s rather sad. Harry Mason There is Sale going on,have a look   www.Troutflies.com

You’re absolutely right on target Harry, I succumbed to breaking a long standing rule I have of not responding to Gherke, no matter how outrageous his postings. Besides, I think Mike Connor is doing an excellent job of that. <g I will forthwith and henceforth sink back into silence. But sometimes it is hard to remain passive in the face of these onslaughts to intelligent discourse, so I can understand why others can’t resist in feeding his egocentric ramblings. Frank (tikalok) Church

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You poor SOB’s are eating out of his dirty little paws and it’s rather sad. Harry Mason It’s indeed sad; but the food is so good! I find myself wakening in the wee hours, sneaking out of bed and slinking downstairs for just one more bite of the dirty little nibblets! I hate them but I NEED them! ravenously yours, sean Good Lord man, have you ANY idea of what you have just done??!!  Do you have even the foggiest inkling of what a dangerous precedent you have just set?  I think NOT!  You have, if we may momentarily stoop the gauche convenience of lapsing into the vernacular, "let the cat out of the poke". You can look at it that way.

Thank you. BUT, should you afford me a little more credit,

Hm, I thought I WAS doing just that. you might be of the opinion I play the Devil’s advocate, mixing shoulds, coulds and hand-fed morsels into a polarized miasma of repulsion and attraction.

I might indeed but, based on the above exchange, it would appear that neither of us would know it if I was.  I like the "polarized miasma" thing though. I may be exposing on this forum

And you certainly wouldn’t be the first. for what it has become ( merely a glorified video game, a text adventure, a room full of Dungeons & Dragons geeks fullfilling their fantasies by living vicariously through the fictive lives they could never achieve in the true world ) only with the objective of raising the odius ante.

Never been very much interested in video games myself, and I’ve never tried text adventures or D&D at all.  Just an educated guess here, but I think most of the people in this group whom I have met thus far aren’t great fans either. Moreover, based on what little time I have spent with them, I don’t think most of them depend to any great extent on vicarious living.  Until someone else steps forward to make a claim, I am content to recognize you as the resident authority on these matters. Perhaps I know that the more surreal and absurdist a mileu appears, the more irrational, and reactionary its members will let themselves -or their ‘net personas- be.

Yes, perhaps you do. Further, I might realize that ROFF is NOT a place where e-concequences do not merge with the "real" world, where everyone is really anonymous, and every man has a 13" dick.

The list of things you might know is growing at an impressive rate.  Sadly though, I am at something of a loss in trying to determine just what the latest addition to that list refers to.  I might, perhaps, guess it has something to do with not being content with the distinction of being a recognized expert on role playing; that you also have a burning desire to be the resident authority on other men’s dicks as well.  If so, I for one, decline to challenge your ascendancy on this matter. Now, what we have, is a fly-fishing version of Doom (the vid game). We can wade through the muck and dredge mowing any threat down like the Columbine library… trolling and seting, one might say. Violent, bloody and quite enjoyable, but not real. However, there is a pretty good chance that someday on the river you’re going to run in to some guy named gg, or wolfgang, or sean, and you’ll press further and find out this same gg wolfgang sean is the same who wrote of you as a coward, or pussy, or loonie, or thief, or hack, or strike indicator user, or whatever on ROFF. And the monkeywrench Devil’s advocate cashes in as some angler floats down the river face-down.

Before today I never had occasion to take seriously any threat of physical violence proffered by anyone on this news group.  Even the rather explicit threats exchanged by a few regulars were probably not taken too seriously by most readers and, as subsequent events proved, their lack of concern was not as irresponsible as one might think.  Alas, for me at least, all that has changed now.  Of course, I can’t be certain of what others may think, but I suspect you may have  limited the number of potential fishing partners you are likely to find here.  Or, to put it more directly, every swingin dick who whines about what goes on in here laps it up like a junky with the three day shakes.  The only thing they need worse than a regular fix of this appalling degradation and squalor is an occasional opportunity to declaim their disgust over the whole wretched mess and their absolute disdain (ever so politely put, of course) for those who participate, Or, if you could afford, just a little bit MORE credit, you might condisder that no one really takes credit for playing Devil’s advocate if he really is playing Devil’s advocate. You can bet that one calling himself D’s A is really likening himself to some allegorical figure like Tar Baby, or Fritz the Cat,

Admirably convoluted…..gotta give you credit for that. in which case this so-called DA thinks he has some sort of lesson to teach.

Yes, don’t we all. Perhaps this DA wants to remind us what Jesus said of speaking (and by inference, typing): what exits the mouth is a reflection of the heart.

And what are we likely to see reflected in the heart of a monkeywrench DA as we float face down in the river? And by reminding us of this on the Holy day of Easter this DA hopes ROFF will see the truth in this… that every flame and squabble degrading the bandwidth of this forum is a testament to the bile and jealousy and pride and fear and self masturbation of every over-inflated ego and every rotten heart that takes part, justified or not.

with your Jesus of Nazareth there. MAYBE, this DA might go so far as to say "Go forth, and get ye upon that river, or lake, or ditch. Take in to thine hands a flexible staff of three cubit’s length whereupon a tether is attached with which ye shall attempt to fool fishes.

The defense might be getting weary of trying to divine what the DA might or might not think, do, or say.  We could just possibly wish he might just get on with it and say what he may have to say…..allegorically speaking, that is. And when enough fishes have been fooled, and enough rivers forged, ye shall ascend to a state of grace and truth which crucifies you unto the world and the world unto you."

? To the challenged, one might translate, "get a life."

Ah!  One may have hoped there might be a sort of pr

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Just in the last few years my interest in fly fishing has changed from the occasional outing to my favorite pastime. I’ve traded in my wild whitewater kayak weekends to sit waist deep in the Ausable river and to think that I’ve never took advantage of the Miramichi while living in NB. Now, I’m ready to return only to find out I need a guide since I’m no longer a resident. Can this be this true???? DC

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Yes it is. Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just in the last few years my interest in fly fishing has changed from the occasional outing to my favorite pastime. I’ve traded in my wild whitewater kayak weekends to sit waist deep in the Ausable river and to think that I’ve never took advantage of the Miramichi while living in NB. Now, I’m ready to return only to find out I need a guide since I’m no longer a resident. Can this be this true???? DC

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Look at the post about Miramichi guide requirements some weeks ago for further info.  Yes you do need a guide.  Count yourself as just another victim of the provincial system! David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just in the last few years my interest in fly fishing has changed from the occasional outing to my favorite pastime. I’ve traded in my wild whitewater kayak weekends to sit waist deep in the Ausable river and to think that I’ve never took advantage of the Miramichi while living in NB. Now, I’m ready to return only to find out I need a guide since I’m no longer a resident. Can this be this true???? DC

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Sorry to say Dave, it is very true. Get in touch with Mr. Heroux from Dieppe. He is a guide and he can give you more info on the subjet. Send me a private e-mail and I’ll give you his address (e-mail) Take care Just in the last few years my interest in fly fishing has changed from the occasional outing to my favorite pastime. I’ve traded in my wild whitewater kayak weekends to sit waist deep in the Ausable river and to think that I’ve never took advantage of the Miramichi while living in NB. Now, I’m ready to return only to find out I need a guide since I’m no longer a resident. Can this be this true???? DC

– Michel Lajoie Le Moucheux http://www3.sympatico.ca/moucheux/

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Actually, it sounds like it might flow into the esopus.  Excerpt from AWA site: Beaverkill Reach: Turnwood to mouth County: Sullivan/Delaware Length: 32 Class: II-III Reach: Route 212 bridge below Willow to bridge over Esopus Creek near Mt. Tremper County: Ulster Length: 4.5 Class: III-V Notes: Local expert, Daniel Scher, 249 Munsee Way, Westfield, N.J. 07090 (908-232-3129) Tried contacting this guy with no luck. bob

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        There may be some confusion here…..  The BeaverKill is a tributary of the East Branch of the Delaware River.  From Roscoe, NY to its mouth it is at best a class I,  and one of the best known flyfishing streams in NY.  Up above, it might get a little higher, and the Willowemoc, which flows into it, can also.         There is a Beaver Creek which flows in the Esopus at Mt. Tremper.  That is usually a very bony run even if the Esopus is high.  Denis McLaine has run it, but probably not often nor recently.  If there’s any water up there, head for the Esopus.             There are two gages for the Esopus up there, the Cold Brook one being the more useful.. It should be 4.8 ft or higher to run.   I think the reading you got was for the Beaverkill near Roscoe. JP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually, it sounds like it might flow into the esopus.  Excerpt from AWA site: Beaverkill Reach: Turnwood to mouth County: Sullivan/Delaware Reach: Route 212 bridge below Willow to bridge over Esopus Creek near Mt. Tremper County: Ulster Length: 4.5 Class: III-V

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Does anyone know anything about this creek?  It flows into the delaware and the AWA site lists a class II-III section and a III-V section.  It shot up to over 800 cfs last week and caught my attention, but i have no idea what the quality of the river is or what the minimum runnable level is.   thanks, bob

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Howdy folks!!! What:           Free Presentation on Flyfishing the Arkansas River during the Mother’s Day Caddis Hatch Who:            Matt and Chris Brown of Browner’s Guide Service in Salida, Colorado. Where:          The Trout Unlimited/Wild Trout Chapter’s April                 meeting at the Best Western Landmark Inn,                         455 S. Colorado Blvd. (Colorado Blvd.                         & North Cherry Creek Drive) When:           Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:30 pm Come here Matt and Chris tell us how, when and where to catch the big ones. Then hang around to swap stories and tips with other local anglers. at 832-4600.

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Greetings TU members from Wisconsin.  Just saying hi!  Our fishing opener starts tomorrow. Larry Seiler http://cwinc.net/larryseiler 1998 Wis Inland Trout Stamp Design Competition winner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Howdy folks!!! What:      Free Presentation on Flyfishing the Arkansas River during the Mother’s Day Caddis Hatch Who:       Matt and Chris Brown of Browner’s Guide Service in Salida, Colorado. Where:     The Trout Unlimited/Wild Trout Chapter’s April                    meeting at the Best Western Landmark Inn,                    455 S. Colorado Blvd. (Colorado Blvd.                    & North Cherry Creek Drive) When:              Wednesday, April 22nd at 6:30 pm Come here Matt and Chris tell us how, when and where to catch the big ones. Then hang around to swap stories and tips with other local anglers. Lopez at 832-4600.

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I NEED INDIVID’S WILLING TO USE THEIR TALENTS TO REFURBISH THE THE LATE                                           1) THE POOL IS COLLAPSED ON ONE SIDE—–NEED AN ENGIE TYPE WILLING TO SWAP FISHING FOR HIS OPINION.                                                        2) THE CESTE FOR FRESH WATER IS IN NEED OF MAJOR REPAIR.                                                       JOIN MAJOR SALTWATER FLYFISHING LEGENDS FOR A WEEKEND OF YOUR CHOICE AND HELP US RE-ESTABLISH THE BANG-BANG CLUB AS THE BEST BONEFISHING DESTINATION IN THE                                       PEACE,   CAPT. RAHE                                                          305-293-8088

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I NEED INDIVID’S WILLING TO USE THEIR TALENTS TO REFURBISH THE THE LATE                                           1) THE POOL IS COLLAPSED ON ONE SIDE—–NEED AN ENGIE TYPE WILLING TO SWAP FISHING FOR HIS OPINION.                                                        2) THE CESTE FOR FRESH WATER IS IN NEED OF MAJOR REPAIR.                                                       JOIN MAJOR SALTWATER FLYFISHING LEGENDS FOR A WEEKEND OF YOUR CHOICE AND HELP US RE-ESTABLISH THE BANG-BANG CLUB AS THE BEST BONEFISHING DESTINATION IN THE

Hey, "Capt." Rahe, Your previous two posts show you to be an a–hole (not surprising considering the aol address) and furthermore, see that little key labeled "caps lock" over to the left on your keyboard? TURN IT OFF!!! David B.

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Quoting powlesla from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    <"Foolishness"? You obviously don’t appreciate how dangerous PETA    <really is.    <They want to ban all fishing and they will say and do anything to    <achieve that goal. Check out  http://www.peta.org  "People Eating Tasty Animals"  Its a riot! Jim Carlisle

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OOPS! Sorry Jim, didn’t know you were conducting a vote…record this as an anti-Jim vote….thanks for the reminder about the kill file.  Why don’t you use it to avoid Walker posts and spare the rest of us all of your aggravation? Sorry, no can do. By the number of anti-Tim posts I have been

seeing, I’d say you are in the minority.<<                         Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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TIP OF THE DAY; Studying insects helps anglers Knowing when aquatic insects should hatch gives you an advantage. Near the end of April, I fished a stretch of the Whitewater River = expecting a hatch of Hendrickson mayflies. I knew from experience that the adults show up on the water’s surface sometime between 2 = and 5 p.m. The day was perfect for good mayfly action, dark and ugly. At 11 a.m., I started wading upcurrent,  fishing  streamers. They didn’t = work. Next I dredged deep pools with nymphs. Bottom-hugging snags ate my nymphs. The trout were sulking.  A few tentative taps at my nymph pattern kept me awake. By 3 p.m., after 4 hours of hard  fishing,  I had caught and released only = four small browns. I probably would have given up then if I hadn’t known there would be a hatch. Just as I was beginning to wonder if the hatch really would occur, I roundeda bend and spied a platoon of 11- to 14-inch browns frol= icking in an ankle-deep riffle. They attacked. Every other drift through the riffle brought a strike – on each of the four different=  Hendrickson dry-fly patterns I used.

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URL http://www.deltanet.com/users/msangil

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Wierd title?  So is my dilemma: I am a novice marathoner who fishes.  I’ve run one marathon this year (Napa Valley) and would like to improve my time for the Portland Marathon by using a heart rate monitor.  I also enjoy fishing.  I have some backpacking fly equipment but I would like to let my elitest-self shine with a real fly fishing outfit. My birthday is in a couple of days and I expect to get some money.  I have decided to give due regard to the advice from the good folks at rec.running and rec.outdoors.fishing.fly. Where to spend my money? Steve

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I am a novice marathoner who fishes.  I’ve run one marathon this year (Napa Valley) and would like to improve my time for the Portland Marathon by using a heart rate monitor.  I also enjoy fishing.  I have some backpacking fly equipment but I would like to let my elitest-self shine with a real fly fishing outfit. Where to spend my money?

Steve, run out and buy yourself a fly fishing outfit… David E. Malone All opinions expressed are my own.

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If you often overtrain, get the HRM.  If you need more protein, get the fishing equipment.  Otherwise, you’ll just have to decide for yourself. — Ray Charbonneau    | MIT Library Systems| Everyone is entitled to my opinion.  *Disclaimer? Why?*|

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Buy the fly fishing gear and go have fun.  You’ll be more relaxed for your training and will in turn run farther and faster.  Besides, I’ve not yet met a marathon runner who has trained with a heart rate monitor, so I’m sure you can train hard enough to improve your time without one.   Buy the heart rate monitor next year, and don’t go out too fast in Portland, as the crowds during the first part of the race might make you go faster than you should. Best fishes, Dan

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When in doubt, go with the fun stuff. Buy the fishing outfit. Chances are you’ll use it more and longer. Mike T. — WebRunner Running Page — Southeast USA Club & Race Listings 200+ listings. Advertise your race. Club Home Pages. http://www.catalog.com/webrun/running/running.html

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Neither–Get yourself a good set of Golf clubs! Everone has taken up flyfishing, and the courses are almost empty. For exercise, carry your own clubs and jog,that"ll keep that ticker pumpin.There are beautiful courses everywhere,except Idaho.The chemists have destroyed the good grass in that state, with all those potato experiments. This is a joke–Don’t want to piss off any Idaho golfers.

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I have both.  Believe me, I can cast a lot farther with a fly rod.

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Well, I’ve used the heart monitor before marathons, and it works well…I tended to use it by setting target heart ranges for faster paced running, when the monitor stopped beeping, I knew I’d warmed up enough to get into the target range, then when the monitor started beeping again, i knew i’d run enough (when it exceeds the upper end of the range it beeps) or that i was running too fast for the distance i wanted to go. However, if there was good fly fishing close by, i’d probably have bought the flyfishing equip. later Jim Danforth

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I am a novice marathoner who fishes.  I’ve run one marathon this year (Napa Valley) and would like to improve my time for the Portland Marathon by using a heart rate monitor.  I also enjoy fishing.  I have some backpacking fly equipment but I would like to let my elitest-self shine with a real fly fishing outfit. Where to spend my money? Steve, run out and buy yourself a fly fishing outfit… David E. Malone All opinions expressed are my own.

Steve, Its apparant your training is suffering from a lack of obsession. I refer you to Calvin and Hobbes from about two weeks ago.  T Training with a monitor lets you micro  analyze your pperformance with the goal being to satisy such standards as your training log and other people who wear monitors. Also there’s a coolness factor related to who might be impressed by the purchases.  Fish or friends?   I have trained with a monitor for a year.  Has it helped?  Got me. It is a diversion and something to do on those long runs. Steve Rogers When the going gets tough, blah, blah, blah

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[deleted] : My birthday is in a couple of days and I expect to get some money.  I : have decided to give due regard to the advice from the good folks at : rec.running and rec.outdoors.fishing.fly. Neither…buy a pair of Reabok Pumps and go fishing…then, if you fall in, your feet will float up and someone will be able to spot you. Tim Walker

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: Neither–Get yourself a good set of Golf clubs! Everone has taken up : flyfishing, and the courses are almost empty. For exercise, carry your : own clubs and jog,that"ll keep that ticker pumpin.There are beautiful : courses everywhere,except Idaho.The chemists have destroyed the good : grass in that state, with all those potato experiments. : This is a joke–Don’t want to piss off any Idaho golfers. Hey, hey, hey!!!  Whatchit buddy.  This state still has the fighting words law.  That means I can bust you in the chops for saying such things and all the cops will do is make fun of your glass jaw or my right hook! Rick — T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.  

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: Wierd title?  So is my dilemma: : I am a novice marathoner who fishes.  I’ve run one marathon this year : (Napa Valley) and would like to improve my time for the Portland : Marathon by using a heart rate monitor.  I also enjoy fishing.  I have some : backpacking fly equipment but I would like to let my elitest-self shine : with a real fly fishing outfit. : My birthday is in a couple of days and I expect to get some money.  I : have decided to give due regard to the advice from the good folks at : rec.running and rec.outdoors.fishing.fly. : Where to spend my money? : Steve My vote is for the flyfishing gear.  As a bonus I offer you my "cheap" heart rate monitor:   If you’re breathing, its beating.  If you’re not breathing, it’s probably stopped (or will shortly). (sippinElkMountainAmberAleandrootinfortheBarracudainLongBeachCalifornia wheretheearthmovesundermyfeet)

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Get both. Many new runners pack up when they find that it takes discipline and effort to get fit. There are many HRMs lying dormant in people homes unused. I’ve just bought one for 10 pounds second hand. Look in your local paper I’m sure you’ll find one. Simon — Simon Walsh    

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: [deleted] : : My birthday is in a couple of days and I expect to get some money.  I : : have decided to give due regard to the advice from the good folks at : : rec.running and rec.outdoors.fishing.fly. : Neither…buy a pair of Reabok Pumps and go fishing…then, if you : fall in, your feet will float up and someone will be able to spot you. And if the shoes don’t fit, Reebok Pumps make dandy strike indicators. Rick — T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.  

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