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<SNIP The aspiration for ‘reasonable contentment’ is one we probably all share, Mike. I’m not sure it’s been the driving force behind mankind’s most impressive achievements, though. 
War has usually been the driving force for man
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » This is a test sorry
Thanks for the reply. I feel like a regular already. I have been lurking for a couple of years. I’m fairly new to flyfishing and was having trouble getting my post to go through. I hope I can contribute in the future. I also hope to attend a clave sometime it sounds like fun.
I hope I can contribute in the future. I also hope to attend a clave sometime it sounds like fun.
for my part, i hope you reach both goals. welcome to the nuthouse. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
Whoooweee and likewise yeeehaaw! That reply posted in seconds. We may have a winner here. His wife in El Paso – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear fellas – figgered a "sorry" test message is a good place to re-test us.
Dear fellas – figgered a "sorry" test message is a good place to re-test us. We’ve been having terrible troubles trying to post replies. It appears Southwestern Bell/Pacific Bell Internet updated their hardware and software and generally rearranged the furniture without telling anyone. Everybody’s been having trouble. On advice from another user, we changed news servers to news.flash.net and hoping that posts will go through. This lurking business is the pits. Was about to use voodoo or something, sprinkle salt on the phone lines, call in an exorcist…. Please let us know how this goes. Bob & his wife in El Paso
A real sorry would be much more sincere. <g (I had to do it for Zimbo) — Charlie…
A real sorry would be much more sincere. <g (I had to do it for Zimbo)
And I thank you from the bottom of my dweller 
–Steve
listen, newbie: you call me sorry one more time and you’re *gonna* be! wayno, the scourge of chambana – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Hows Montana
Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August. Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated. I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification. Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds (if it rains us out) Al Schuh-fly
I’d check on the water levels at Rock Creek first, if you mean THE Rock Creek East of Missoula. The last report I heard was fishing could be over there for the season in the next week or so- water levels are way below normal – check with Doug at the Rock Creek Mercantile (406)825-6440 John
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August. Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated. I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification. Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds (if it rains us out) Al Schuh-fly
Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August. Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated. I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification. Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds (if it rains us out) Al Schuh-fly
Bring your roller skates! 
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For river reports. check this URL: http://www.fourrivers.net/index.htm They’re saying that the flow of Rock Creek is down to 332 cfs, which ain’t too good. We’re going out there tomorrow (7/8) and will be back on the 16th. The campground where we’re staying is on Rock Creek, but we’re going to concentrate on fishing the Blackfoot and the Bitterroot. For tent camping, see the following: http://travelmontana.state.mt.us/faq/links.htm …it has links to all sorts of travel and accomodation sites all over the state. Regards, LR
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August. Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated. I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification. Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds (if it rains us out) Al Schuh-fly
http://montana.usgs.gov/rt-cgi/gen_tbl_pg for Montana streamflows. http://montana.usgs.gov/rt-cgi/gen_stn_pg?station=12334510 for current Rock Creek conditions. The creek is definitely low but then all the rivers are (at least this side of the divide). The bigger waters are fishing extremely well right now. Lots of Golden Stone and evening caddis right now with good PMD’s late morning to early afternoon. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d check on the water levels at Rock Creek first, if you mean THE Rock Creek East of Missoula. The last report I heard was fishing could be over there for the season in the next week or so- water levels are way below normal – check with Doug at the Rock Creek Mercantile (406)825-6440 John Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August. Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated. I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification. Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds (if it rains us out) Al Schuh-fly
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Striper fishing advice
Ernie, I assume you are in eastern PA? I am new to flyfishing, but do know where you can do some awesome striper fishing if you aren’t too far east. Raystown Lake has great landlocked striper fishing. 20-30 pounders are the norm and 40+ pounders are caught every year. They do have a website, not sure of the url. Try a search. good luck, Matt
Hey Guys, Been Fishing the Salt with a fly rod and other tackle for a while now. Always looking for people to go with. Would be interested in hearing from any body close. I am in NW Montgomery county. Any body interested shoot me an email. Ernie, I would suggest a 10WT for most of your fishing, and an intermediate shooting setup for most of your fishing in the surf. Seems like you are doing battle with the wind most of the time. Faster sinking lines are great from jetties and intlets. Get a stipping basket. Fishing the surf with a fly rod can be very productive for several species in NJ and north coast waters and sometimes it will out produce conventional and spin tackle. Experiment… Damian Damian NuWave Tackle Innovative products designed by fishermen for fishermen Fly Tying equip and matls., Tackle and more. http://www.nuwavetackle.com/
Thanks Paul Ernie
Hello Ernie, Like any "species specific" fishing, you first have to know your quarry and then you must understand your quarry’s quarry. Check out http://www.fishbelly.com , it’s a new web site that is loaded with great information on fishing for all species of fish. However, to meet your needs, check out the article by Lefty Kreh on fishing his deceiver fly http://www.fishbelly.com/articles/lk110399.htm Bookmark the site because there’s a new article coming soon by Lou Tabory that deals with how to present your flies for best results. We will also be highlighting the many different prey items that all species of game fish love. We will include underwater images that will help you "match the hatch" so to speak, in salt water. I hope this info helps. If you have any other questions, hop on the fishbelly message forum and I’ll be happy to try and answer them. Finally, if you’re looking for "in depth" — no pun intended — information on stripers, check out the selection of videos at Fishbelly. As an underwater videographer who has spent over 40 years in the striper’s domain, I can promise you any of the Laptew Production videos will make you a better striper angler. Seize the day! Go fishing. Mike
After many years of trouting I would like to give stripers a try. I live in Penna, and can easily get to NJ or the Cape , beforo I start calling guides, some basic info (when, where, with who) would be appreciated Thanks, Ernie
After many years of trouting I would like to give stripers a try. I live in Penna, and can easily get to NJ or the Cape , beforo I start calling guides, some basic info (when, where, with who) would be appreciated Thanks, Ernie
For equipment you’ll want a 9wt, a sinking line and a reel that’s doesn’t say freshwater only. You can use a 7wt but if it’s really windy or you catch a really big fish you’ll appreciate the 9wt. A few clouser and a a few decievers are all you’ll need for flies. The early season in MA chartruse is a good color. I can’t help with NJ. Check with a local shop for what colors are good. If you buy the flies at the same shop you’re likely to get better advice. Paul
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » What is going on?
I’ve been gone for a couple of weeks. When I left, the discussion was Indians. I come back and it’s the Chinese. This is rec.outdoors.fishing. fly not racial.opinions.foolish.farcical. Willi
Hey, look on the bright side, 10 years from now the chinks and the yanks will have a great big mushroom throwing contest and Canada and Lichtenstein will be the next world powers. Kinda reassuring, don’t you think? KB – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been gone for a couple of weeks. When I left, the discussion was Indians. I come back and it’s the Chinese. This is rec.outdoors.fishing. fly not racial.opinions.foolish.farcical. Willi
Kevin: It is absolutely outrageous of you to use such racist terms in your posting. Such language is not welcomed or wanted by the majority of the people here. I am not amused by your sarcastic comment here at all. Trying to be funny? Try much harder. Actually, it would be much better if you were just to shut your loud mouth. Usage of such term shows us that you are beyond the word ignorant can ever describe you as a person. I do not know you personally but from the short comment I see posted here, you are a useless piece of work. Go to hell, you asshole. jimmy chang
+AD4-Hey, look on the bright side, 10 years from now the chinks and the yanks +AD4-will have a great big mushroom throwing contest and Canada and Lichtenstein +AD4-will be the next world powers. +AD4- +AD4-Kinda reassuring, don’t you think? +AD4- +AD4-KB +AD4- +AD4APg- I’ve been gone for a couple of weeks. When I left, the discussion was +AD4APg- Indians. I come back and it’s the Chinese. This is rec.outdoors.fishing. +AD4APg- fly not racial.opinions.foolish.farcical. +AD4APg- +AD4APg- Willi +AD4APg- goldens+AEA-frii.com +AD4- +AD4-
It is absolutely outrageous of you to use such racist terms in your posting. Such language is not welcomed or wanted by the majority of the people here. I am not amused by your sarcastic comment here at all.
I too thought Kevin’s choice of words (the "c" word) was inappropriate and ruined what may have been an otherwise humorous intent. I don’t disagree with you, but I would also point out that few things will draw more criticism here that nominating yourself as the voice of the majority. Go to hell, you asshole.
In your own words, such language is not welcomed or wanted by the majority of the people here. Chill dude. Joe F.
Kevin: It is absolutely outrageous of you to use such racist terms in your posting. Such language is not welcomed or wanted by the majority of the people here. I am not amused by your sarcastic comment here at all. Trying to be funny? Try much harder. Actually, it would be much better if you were just to shut your loud mouth.
Jimmy Chang, I’ve lurked through this post from the start, and it seems to me that the one throwing around the most insults is you. Try to remove yourself from your self appointed throne, unwrap yourself from the "poor little minority flag" for a minute, take a breath and read into what some of the other posters have been telling you. You may not realize it, but most of them are actually on your side. Nobody needs more enemies but you seem to be doing your level best to create them out of allies. Oh and if you want to throw a few racist comments my way to make yourself feel better I am 1/2 English, 1/4 Scottish, 1/8 Scandinavian and 1/8 Blackfoot Indian (native American). So "Pommy Bastard" works as does "Chug", "Mick", "Tomahawk", or "Honky". Or if you would prefer call me four eyes, that works too. Or if you want, call me another name that rhymes with my last name Cooper. when I was a kid, everyone thought pooper was pretty funny, and stooper was right up there as well. In other words stop taking yourself so fucking seriously. Usage of such term shows us that you are beyond the word ignorant can ever describe you as a person. I do not know you personally but from the short comment I see posted here, you are a useless piece of work. Go to hell, you asshole.
Truly said from the exhaulted leader himself
[deleted] In other words stop taking yourself so fucking seriously.
[deleted] Careful Stooper or you’ll have to answer to David Jones. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
[deleted] In other words stop taking yourself so fucking seriously. [deleted] Careful Stooper or you’ll have to answer to David Jones. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
As long as he doesn’t make me dance like he used when he was with the monkeys I think I can handle it. Stevo the "sewer-mouth"
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [deleted] In other words stop taking yourself so fucking seriously. [deleted] Careful Stooper or you’ll have to answer to David Jones. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" As long as he doesn’t make me dance like he used when he was with the monkeys I think I can handle it. Stevo the "sewer-mouth"
Now THAT is freakin’ (somewhat polite way of saying f***in’) funny. I can just hear it now. David Jones coming to get you guys singing "Hey, hey I’m one of the monkeys and I’m not f**king around…" Aw, what the fuck. There I said it. Warren
Steve Cooper: Jimmy Chang, I’ve lurked through this post from the start, and it seems to me that the one throwing around the most insults is you. Try to remove yourself from your self appointed throne, unwrap yourself from the "poor little minority flag" for a minute, take a breath and read into what some of the other posters have been
telling you. I have NEVER seen myself as a "poor little minority" and for you to use such term is again insulting and ignorant. I bet that you can’t see that. You may not realize it, but most of them are actually on your side. Nobody needs more enemies but you seem to be doing your level best to create them out of
allies. I am not looking enemies but if I object to the things I hear, see or read, I react to it, just as you have reacted to my message. And I would appreciate it if you do not tell me otherwise. Oh and if you want to throw a few racist comments my way to make yourself feel better I am 1/2 English, 1/4 Scottish, 1/8 Scandinavian and 1/8 Blackfoot Indian (native American). So "Pommy Bastard" works as does "Chug", "Mick", "Tomahawk", or "Honky". Or if you would prefer call me four eyes, that works too. Or if you want, call me another name that rhymes with my last name Cooper. when I was a kid, everyone thought pooper was pretty funny, and stooper was right up there as well.
Seems to me that you really like to be verbally abused and "throwing a few racist comments your way" will certainly NOT make me feel better. I have better things to to, like, tying a big wooley bugger. Find someone else that knows you well enough to do that for you. There is really no need for you to describe yourself in detail: I am really NOT interested in knowing you. I am sorry that people called you names when you were a kid and I promise you that I won’t do that to you. I only objected to Kevin Bennett’s use of the "c" word in his joke. I might find it funny if I have known him personally. But the use the "c" word, as you like it or not, is inappropriate and I do not appreciate it. There is no way I will sit quietly so that others can insult me. gone fishing
Hey Jimmy sorry about the c word. I was playing off the comment "This is rec.outdoors.fishing.fly not racial.opinions.foolish.farcical". by making an obviously racial, opinionated, foolish and farcical joke. It was way funnier when I had six pints of Caplilano Ale in me. I’m not all that bad a guy, and I’m not racist. I hate ‘em all equally <joke Back to fly fishing…… KB
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » ANY ONE FISH THE FLATBRROK IN NJ
Any information on the good holes or riffles would be appreciated!
For a start look at Meck’s MID ATLANTIC TROUT STREAMS AND THEIR HATCHES. I fished Big Flatbrook last father’s day with my daughter. After 35 years away from it, its incredible what a good job NJ has done with this and some of its other streams. Advise: Get a very detailed map. The scale is deceptive if you are used to the West, ie lots of narrow winding roads, hidden crossroads, little villages, the NJ of my youth. The river is holy water and is truely a challenging experience compares more than favorably with any Eastern river I have ever fished. Locate the "ROY Bridge" and work up from it to get into a fly-only section. Work down from it and its just as good! Avoid the big holes, and avoid people its that simple. Walk in a ways and I think you will find some fine fishing and what I will swear are native Brookies in the 8-12 inch range. I think that’s incredible for a place maybe 50 crow miles from Manhatten. The fish I caught were back in what I call the "headon rootballs:" places where the current smacks right into a root obstruction. So if you are using drys (it was spring and I was using very small tan stimulators fished "damp") You are going to have to float your fly on this very fast water to about an inch of the tangles to get any action. You are going to lose flys but It works. For Brookies I think your stalking is more important than your pattern. Dave Snedeker – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any information on the good holes or riffles would be appreciated!
While you’re in the area, try the Little Flatbrook. Lot’s of native brookies if you can get way back in away from the parking areas. Beaver ponds are real hotspots. As for the Big Flatbrook, I wouldn’t start fishing it until the stocking season ends unless you like crowds. By July, the wormers are gone and you have a better chance of having a stretch of river all to yourself. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any information on the good holes or riffles would be appreciated!
Try "Millbrook" - it’s a few mile south of Flatbrook (on the same road.) Nice scenery and a real nice stream (at least it was 45 or 50 years ago!!) Tight lines, Ed
Do you mean Millbrook Village? I ‘ve never heard a stream by that name south of the Flatbrook. Van Campens Brook is the only stream I’m aware of in that vacinity. Perhaps they changed the name. Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Try "Millbrook" - it’s a few mile south of Flatbrook (on the same road.) Nice scenery and a real nice stream (at least it was 45 or 50 years ago!!) Tight lines, Ed
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Reel » HELP – How do I learn to fly fish
I would love to learn how to fly fish – my son gave me a fly rod and reel for fathers day 3 years ago. With it came some line and a leader – someone told me I need some backing. What is that for? How do I learn to cast? What about tying flys on my line? Can you help? Thanks
Hi Barry I think the best way to learn to fly fish is from a friend and joining your local fly fishing club is a good way to find that friend. Call the Federation of Fly Fishers (406-585-7592) and see if there is a club near you. If none are avaiable your local fly shop is a good place to start. An hour or two invested in casting lesson with a professonal can save you years of frustration trying to learn by yourself. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress. — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Catalog,Tips & Tricks, Fishing Reports, & NeverSink at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com
I would love to learn how to fly fish – my son gave me a fly rod and reel for fathers day 3 years ago. With it came some line and a leader – someone told me I need some backing. What is that for? How do I learn to cast? What about tying flys on my line? Can you help? Thanks
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would love to learn how to fly fish – my son gave me a fly rod and reel for fathers day 3 years ago.
Was it for Fathers’ Day because it came without documentation; you know, real men don’t read directions anyway. . . With it came some line and a leader – someone told me I need some backing. What is that for?
Backing is a small diameter, lightweight woven line that gets attached to the arbor of the spool of your reel, then tied onto your fly line. If you put just the fly line on the spool, you’ll see there’s probably space left over at the outer edges of the spool. The backing takes up this extra space, but from the bottom. The backing also serves as extra line in case you catch a really big fish (or a truck) and all your fly line gets taken from the spool. Thus the phrase: "Man, that fish took me into my backing." Lacking some sort of booklet giving you the capacity of your reel using different line sizes–oh, didn’t I mention fly line comes in various diameters and lengths?–take the reel and fly line down to your local fly shop, and ask them nicely if they’ll put the backing and fly line on the reel for you.[Image] They’ll be glad to do it, because you’re going to be buying lots of other stuff there, either now or later, but it’s inevitable. How do I learn to cast? What about tying flys on my line? Can you help?
I can’t help, but there are several books that can. While you’re down at your local fly shop (not the fishing dept. at Walmart, please) look over their selection. I have heard somewhere that flyfishing has the most extensive literature of any blood sport, and I half believe it. After 20 years, still the best book for absolute tyros is "The Curtis Creek Manifesto" by Richard Sheridan. Don’t let the comic book format put you off. The book addresses just about every topic for which the beginner has questions. It’ll hold you for a couple of seasons. And, of course, for the most experts per square byte, don’t forget this newsgroup, ROFF. Good luck, Anglerboy — Trout fear me, Women want me. http://www.midtown.net/~angler/ Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITEI would love to learn how to fly fish – my son gave me a fly rod and reel <BRfor fathers day 3 years ago.</BLOCKQUOTE Was it for Fathers’ Day because it came without documentation; you know, real men don’t read directions anyway. . . <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE With it came some line and a leader – someone <BRtold me I need some backing. What is that for?</BLOCKQUOTE Backing is a small diameter, lightweight woven line that gets attached to the arbor of the spool of your reel, then tied onto your fly line. If you put just the fly line on the spool, you’ll see there’s probably space left over at the outer edges of the spool. The backing takes up this extra space, but from the bottom. The backing also serves as extra line in case you catch a really big fish (or a truck) and all your fly line gets taken from the spool. Thus the phrase: "Man, that fish took me into my backing." Lacking some sort of booklet giving you the capacity of your reel using different line sizes–oh, didn’t I mention fly line comes in various diameters and lengths?–take the reel and fly line down to your local fly shop, and ask them nicely if they’ll <PThey’ll be glad to do it, because you’re going to be buying lots of other stuff there, either now or later, but it’s inevitable. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE How do I learn to cast? <BRWhat about tying flys on my line? Can you help?</BLOCKQUOTE I can’t help, but there are several books that can. While you’re down at your local fly shop (not the fishing dept. at Walmart, please) look over their selection. I have heard somewhere that flyfishing has the most extensive literature of any blood sport, and I half believe it. After 20 years, still the best book for absolute tyros is "The Curtis Creek Manifesto" by Richard Sheridan. Don’t let the comic book format put you off. The book addresses just about every topic for which the beginner has questions. It’ll hold you for a couple of seasons. <PAnd, of course, for the most experts per square byte, don’t forget this newsgroup, ROFF. <PGood luck, <BRAnglerboy <P– <BRTrout fear me, <BRWomen want me. <BR<A HREF="http://www.midtown.net/~angler/"http://www.midtown.net/~angler/</A <BR </HTML Content-Type: image/jpeg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="C:tempnsmail8H.jpeg" <encoded_portion_removed FFFABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQAUUUUAFFFFABRRRQB//2Q==
I would love to learn how to fly fish – my son gave me a fly rod and reel for fathers day 3 years ago. With it came some line and a leader – someone told me I need some backing. What is that for?
Strong cheap line between the reel core and the expensive fly line (1) so the fly line does not get too curly by being wound up tight, (2) in case you hook such a big fish that he can pull out all the fly line before you play and land him. How do I learn to cast?
As posted elsewhere, club membership is the single best bet. If locally unavailable, there are excellent books: look in the library for Joe Brooks. There are also videos nowadays, about both casting technique and how to interpret the water. What about tying flys on my line?
Knots are needed to attach: — fly hook to fine nylon tippet, e.g. turle knot, — tippet to heavier nylon leader, e.g. blood knot, — leader to fly line ) both use the — fly line to backing ) needle or nail knot — backing to reel. Nylon (leader material) requires special knots because it is so slippery. Good guidebooks show in pictures how to tie them. — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Lost Hat in the Chattooga
Lost my hiking hat in the Chattooga River above Dam Sluice on section one . White hat with many patches from South Carolina state parks, Canadian National Parks (Fundy, Cape Breton, and Gros Morne) patches, and Foothills Trail patches. A lot of memories down the river! If found, please e-mail: Thank you. James Alverson
I tried out a couple Feathercraft folding kayaks today and was quite surprised at how well they handled. I’m seriously thinking about getting one because of the ease of storage and transport. I’d appreciate any experiences you may have with Feathercraft or any other folding kayaks. I’m mostly interested in ocean day trips and maybe playing in the surf. Thanks, Ray Roux
I tried out a couple Feathercraft folding kayaks today and was quite surprised at how well they handled. I’m seriously thinking about getting one because of the ease of storage and transport. I’d appreciate any experiences you may have with Feathercraft or any other folding kayaks. I’m mostly interested in ocean day trips and maybe playing in the surf. Thanks, Ray Roux
You didn’t mention which models you tried, which is important since they have four singles (in order of size) K-Light, Short Touring, K-1, Khatsalano. Each has its benefits and idiosyncracies. Probably the best for playing in surf is the Short Touring. It is around 13.5 feet in length but is a whitewater boat at heart and will turn on a dime. It is also the strongest boat they make in that it incorporates square aluminum tubing as opposed to round (BTW, the hull on all of them is the same, high grade, expedition weight hypalon sourced from France, perhaps the best source for such). The square stuff is also used in the company’s double, the K-2. The Short Touring is a bit more difficult for sea kayaking and does require the flip-up skeg option or a rudder to go straight (the skeg is the better of the options for this as all you are looking for is tracking). The K-Light is also a good choice all around for day trips, open water and some surfing. It is lighter built than other models but tracks well, turns well, and is a delight to paddle; its shorter length, 12 ft. 10 inches also makes it nice for surfing. The price is right too at $1800 (the other models are considerably more with the Short Touring at around $3000 if I’m not mistaken.). The K-1 tracks extremely well and is a full-fledged ocean touring boat. Like any regular sea kayak it is a bit limited in surf playing but will get you through a surf okay. It costs just shy of $4000, so consider this choice carefully. If camping is your game and you want to take weeks of goodies, this is the boat. (It’s around 16 feet long) The Khatsalano, the newest model of the Feathercraft fleet, is a true Greenland styled boat, narrow in beam, upswept ends, and almost 18 feet long. It comes in two versions, with and without air tubes or sponsons along the side (most foldables have such perimeter tubes including all the Feathercraft mentioned previously). Both do require good bracing skills and are best for those who know all the Greenland style paddling, bracing, rolling and sculling techniques. The one with air tubes is the more easily manageable with only a token level of such skills. The one without demands you have such skills in spades. It is a $4100 boat, quite expensive. I really would like to answer your question about experiences with other folding kayaks but that would take tons of space and time since I’ve been in just about all of them over the last eight years and even wrote a book regarding folding kayaks. You might do well to go to one of those coffee shops masquerading as bookstores, get a copy of my book (The Complete Folding Kayaker, McGraw-Hill, 1994) and read over an expresso or latte to learn more about the range of possibilities with folding kayaks and specifics on other available models. If you have specific questions regarding any model, e-mail me or call. ralph diaz — Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 "Where’s your sea kayak?"—-"It’s in the bag."
Following up on my last post (pardon me): Get a copy of Ralph Diaz’ book _The Complete Folding Kayaker_. It has a lot of information on folding boats and if the comments on the K-1 are any guide I’d say the information presented is very accurate and reliable. If you want a really beautiful boat, look at the Feathercraft Khatsolano, a Greenland-style boat. If I were buying now, and assuming it turned out to be not too advanced a boat for me, I’d probably buy the Khat or maybe the "-S" version (with sponsons) jut because it is gorgeous.
: I tried out a couple Feathercraft folding kayaks today and was quite : surprised at how well they handled. I’m seriously thinking about getting : one because of the ease of storage and transport. : I’d appreciate any experiences you may have with Feathercraft or any : other folding kayaks. I’m mostly interested in ocean day trips and maybe : playing in the surf. : Thanks, : Ray Roux I bought a Feathercraft K-Light this spring. I really like the way
it handles, although have not yet used it in heavy waves. It went very well in strong headwinds and I was able to keep it nicely on course with side winds. (I do not have a rudder), Re. assembly. I keep mine assembled and car top it, but have taken it down and put it together 3 times now. The first time took me (blush) an hour and a half, straight from the box. The second time was 30 minutes, and the last time including greasing all the connections and putting on the two hatch covers, 25 minutes. I think I can do much better than that with a little practice. It helps to mark some of the parts so that I know which way round they go. I have used the boat on lakes so far, but plan to take it to the coast any chance I get.There seems to be lots of room for gear and I think I could easily pack it for a week’s trip. Hope this helps.
I tried out a couple Feathercraft folding kayaks today and was quite surprised at how well they handled. I’m seriously thinking about getting one because of the ease of storage and transport. I’d appreciate any experiences you may have with Feathercraft or any other folding kayaks. I’m mostly interested in ocean day trips and maybe playing in the surf.
We have two K-1’s and have done a little paddling in them so far — in Puget Sound, off Monterey, and off San Diego. In this admittedly limited experience we found them to be stable (noticeably more so than the hardshells I’ve tried), reasonably fast (better than some plastic boats I’ve tried; I don’t have experience in fancy Kevlar boats to compare), comfortable, roomy (we were able to fit camping gear, a two-burner Coleman stove, and a pair of crutches in ours without problems), of high build quality (after inspecting the pieces, I understand why they cost so much — there is a ton of machining, welding, anodizing, sewing, etc. in each boat; much more manufacturing effort than in hardshells), easy to store in the closet and ship by airplane, and (the only negatives) heavy to haul around (at the airport, rent a baggage cart!) and rather a chore to put together (despite practice, it still takes me 1/2 hour per boat with some effort.) All in all, we love our boats and even if I had a garage to store a fully-assembled boat in, I’d probably still buy a Feathercraft because I like how it paddles and _love_ being able to fly somewhere fun and then paddle _my_ boat, not some rental boat. I’d just leave it assembled! The K-1s track well, turn well with rudder and OK without (keeping in mind that it is a sea kayak meant to go straight.) I haven’t much surf experience and can’t say how they would handle there. The sea sock makes me feel very secure and the hatches seem pretty much watertight. There is less water at the bottom of my wife’s boat after a day of paddling (1cup) than in the typical plastic boats we’ve tried; my boat may have a little "weep" or maybe I’m just a messy guy since there is usually a little more (2 cups), but again not a troublesome amount. The hulls show no damage or really any wear, although we are careful with them too. I also demo’d the K-Light and thought it was a nice boat, and the lower price and 33-pound weight was tempting. Because we wanted room for week-long trips, we went for the K-1’s. The longer wider boat also felt a little more reassuring. We also tried the K-2 but had no prior experience in a double so can’t really comment. One thing about the Feathercrafts: because of their hardshell-style cockpits they aren’t so handy for fishing, carrying coolers to the beach party, lazing around and getting a tan, and so on. If I wanted more versatility I would also look at the Klepper and Folbot which have open cockpits.
: I tried out a couple Feathercraft folding kayaks today and was quite : surprised at how well they handled. I’m seriously thinking about getting : one because of the ease of storage and transport. : I’d appreciate any experiences you may have with Feathercraft or any : other folding kayaks. I’m mostly interested in ocean day trips and maybe : playing in the surf. : Thanks, : Ray Roux Hello Ray, I bought a Feathercraft K-1 last summer and have been out in it around 18 times. I also bought it for its convenience in storage (I live in an apartment) and I also was very impressed with how it handled. BUT, I have found that the assembly and disassembly is a pain when one is using it primarily for day trips. It really takes 45 minutes to an hour to assemble and another 45 minutes to disassemble. When one just wants to get out for a day’s paddle that extra 1-2 hours is a drag. And if one is paddling with folks who have hardshells, they aren’t too happy waiting for one to put part A into part B. I now leave my boat assembled for the season (My landlord lets me store it in the basement). If you are ONLY interested in day trips (I do plan to do kayak touring) then you should consider the smaller Feathercraft. The K-Light is said to be much much easier to assemble and disassemble and also is highly rated for handling. The K-light is also a lot less expensive that the K-1. –Doug Denholm — P.O. Box 79226 Waverley, MA 02179 "We’ll burn that bridge when we get to it."
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Green River,UT
Recently returned from a guided tour with Dennis of Trout Creek Flies. Had a great time. Caught several 20 inchers and a total of 50+fish. I highly recommend this guide as he knows all the hot spots in the river. Lunch was great too!! larry and darlene
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I was at the Green for few days around March 20. I arranged a trip through Dennis (Trout Creek Flies). It cost $240, but that was the low season price – $275 is the standard price (April 1 – ?). I stayed at the Flaming Gorge Lodge (arrnged by Denni) and noticed that they had wading guides available as well, and if you are looking to save $, it’s cheaper and the wading was great at that time (very low water). The fishing was great too… Anthony
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » fishing in Nepal
I have the good fortune of going to Nepal in November and December of this year, and want to know if anyone has any details on fishing, particularly fly-fishing, there. I will be going into the backcountry in the Annapurna, Everest and Terai areas, and would like to know if anyone has fished in the rivers that you proceed along while walking or driving. Also, I know the English used to fish for machir in the larger lakes in this region and would also like information on that. In particular, hints on what to bring, what to use, and where to fish are most useful, but anything is greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. Cheers, Gordon
I have the good fortune of going to Nepal in November and December of this year, and want to know if anyone has any details on fishing, particularly fly-fishing, there.
You might also try posting your query to rec.climbing or maybe rec.backcountry, as there are lots of folks in those groups who have traveled in Nepal. — -Wayne Trzyna