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It was good to meet you and great to fish with you. Hope you continue to post. Next year maybe a Colorado/New Mexico Clave? Willi

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Next year maybe a Colorado/New Mexico Clave? Willi

Now that that cat is out of the bag, I’ll tell you that I’ve started a list of potential locations for a CO/NM western clave 2001. A friend in the office showed me some pictures today, and after some coaxing i got the locations from him….  beautiful cutthroats…. lots of other nearby fishing….. WESTERN CLAVE 2001  in a secret town somewhere in southern colorado. bruiser Before you buy.

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Education & employment: Went to college in Lubbock, Tx at Texas Tech University.  Received a BBA in MIS/Finance and MBA with a concentration in MIS.  

Welcome to another Red Raider. As far as I know we are the only two on ROFF. Big Dale, Class of ‘77

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colorado. bruiser

Count me in. Any excuse to get to the mountains in the summertime. Big Dale

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Count me in!!! But whats this "next year" stuff?? Ain’t there fishin yet to be done this year, or do you suppose there’s so many claves going already there might be conflicts? (Conflicts??? on ROFF??? Tell me ain’t so !!!) Danl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Next year maybe a Colorado/New Mexico Clave? Willi Now that that cat is out of the bag, I’ll tell you that I’ve started a list of potential locations for a CO/NM western clave 2001. A friend in the office showed me some pictures today, and after some coaxing i got the locations from him….  beautiful cutthroats…. lots of other nearby fishing….. WESTERN CLAVE 2001  in a secret town somewhere in southern colorado. bruiser Before you buy.

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With Big Dale and Dan’l, it’s a CLAVE already. We want time to plan, and time for everyone to restock their travel $ and hall passes.  Probably July 2001. Big Dale, we all missed you at the W Clave, although we know you’d have liked to go. We’ll get Jon Cook and Kelly roped into it also i’m sure.  Correct me if i’m wrong, jon, but it seems like you know your way around NM and CO pretty well. Before you buy.

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BIO name:  Kelly Rogers but I answer to a lot of things, depending upon the who’s yellin’ at me

<snipped a damn impressive BIO ’bout damn time there Kelly! <g  Enjoyed reading your 3 part post and look forward to reading mroe from you.  I was beginning to think you were going to wuss out. So did you do any fishin’ after the clave?  Feel free to email me the secret locations. I never did get a chance to stop in there and check on that girly, but I am planning on going for a weekend very soon and will no doubt have some free time. — Warren Findley Member of the Clavemeister Club Before you buy.

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rivers. Big Dale All we need is a clavemeister, Big Dale. I know at least one guy will show up.

It won’t be me. I have spent my whole life trying to stay out of west Texas and the decade I spent there was the worst flyfishing in my life. Big Dale

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I’m also thinking of a trip to southern Colorado/northern New Mexico sometime this September to check out some possible areas. Anyone interested in getting together?

   I’m up for that Willi, let’s synchonize our daytimers.    I’d been giving some thought to doing a clave in the North Park area, maybe even volunteering to be clavemeister. Wherever it is held, the bossman will need to be somebody with good knowledge of the local waters; me and Willi and probably a few others can find our way around North Park. Just an idea.

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   I’d been giving some thought to doing a clave in the North Park area, maybe even volunteering to be clavemeister. Wherever it is held, the bossman will need to be somebody with good knowledge of the local waters; me and Willi and probably a few others can find our way around North Park. Just an idea.

Dude, what about South Park?!?  Oh my god!  You killed Vern!  You bastard!!!! <g — Warren Findley Member of the Clavemeister Club Before you buy.

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It ain’t a hell of a lot of fun flyfishing in the land of dusty rivers. Big Dale

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It ain’t a hell of a lot of fun flyfishing in the land of dusty rivers. Big Dale All we need is a clavemeister, Big Dale. I know at least one guy will show up.

I don’t know.  Maybe a Vegas Clave with each member bringing a big roll of 20s.  Maybe Vern can give us some casting lessons and show us where the honey holes are <g — Warren Findley Member of the Clavemeister Club Before you buy.

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It ain’t a hell of a lot of fun flyfishing in the land of dusty rivers. Big Dale

All we need is a clavemeister, Big Dale. I know at least one guy will show up. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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I do have a question though.  What are the possiblities of having more than one Western Clave for 2001?  Maybe another in Montana, Idaho or Wyoming as well as the CO/NM clave.  Thoughts, ideas, suggestions anyone?

How about West Texas? — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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(awesome plan clipped) WHAT HE SAID!!! bruiser Before you buy.

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Willi, September’s great i agree.  I’m into a remodeling job on a dump i just bought but maybe a day or two here and there… I am psyched now for next september. bruiser Before you buy.

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Willi, September’s great i agree.  I’m into a remodeling job on a dump i just bought but maybe a day or two here and there… I am psyched now for next september. bruiser

Bruiser, you know to just count me in.  How the hell could I say no after reading over half of this book in one night (p 104 of 142 btw)?!?! I do have a question though.  What are the possiblities of having more than one Western Clave for 2001?  Maybe another in Montana, Idaho or Wyoming as well as the CO/NM clave.  Thoughts, ideas, suggestions anyone? — Warren Findley Member of the Clavemeister Club Before you buy.

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I do have a question though.  What are the possiblities of having more than one Western Clave for 2001?  Maybe another in Montana, Idaho or Wyoming as well as the CO/NM clave.  Thoughts, ideas, suggestions anyone?

I like Willi’s idea for a September CO/NM ‘Clave. I’ve been mulling over the idea of a summer ‘Clave in the Park. If we got on it early enough we could rent cabins at Roosevelt and be a short drive from a wide variety of fishing. From the geezer accessible Lamar and Soda Butte to the real challenge of Hellroaring Creek and the canyon of the Yellowstone. Steve’s horses are welcome in the Park and of course there’s campgrounds for those that prefer to camp. Just a thought. — Ken Fortenberry

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I’m game if I can work out the time schedule. When do you have in mind? Danl

July 2001. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I vote for fall. Fishing is always good in September. Weather is usually great, tourists are gone etc. July fishing depends on snow pack and the tourists are out in force. I’m also thinking of a trip to southern Colorado/northern New Mexico sometime this September to check out some possible areas. Anyone interested in getting together? Willi

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restock their travel $ and hall passes.  Probably July 2001.

This sounds good, but a little naive. I don’t see my travel $ ever being restocked what with some talking of a meeting in The Big Easy ( I always spend WAY TOO MUCH in the big easy). I have never fishing in Penn and have always wanted to see a game in Happy Valley. I have always enjoyed fishing Northern New Mexico and Colorado. One area I go to as often as I can is around Gunnison, cause it has lots of different types of water. I happen to enjoy those little brookies and cutthroats in the high mountain meadows…they are small but the area is beautiful. The more I think about it I am tempted to load the truck and leave right now. Big Dale.

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With Big Dale and Dan’l, it’s a CLAVE already. We want time to plan, and time for everyone to restock their travel $ and hall passes.  Probably July 2001.

I vote for fall. Fishing is always good in September. Weather is usually great, tourists are gone etc. July fishing depends on snow pack and the tourists are out in force. Big Dale, we all missed you at the W Clave, although we know you’d have liked to go. We’ll get Jon Cook and Kelly roped into it also i’m sure.  Correct me if i’m wrong, jon, but it seems like you know your way around NM and CO pretty well.

I’m also thinking of a trip to southern Colorado/northern New Mexico sometime this September to check out some possible areas. Anyone interested in getting together? Willi

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BIO name:  Kelly Rogers but I answer to a lot of things, depending upon the who’s yellin’ at me vitals: 6′4", as recent as a couple of months ago 226 lbs but currently hoverin’ around 208 lbs. (who says lite beer diet doesn’t work) , 35 yrs old the early years:  Born in Irving, TX but moved to Big Spring, TX in 1972 when my Grand Pa  past away.  Moved there to take over the family cotton farm along with a small time (and I do mean small time, 25-30 head) cattle operation that was thrown in for good measure.  Had a great up bringing of hard work on the farm, chasing gals in the big city of Big Spring, and drinking beer (not necessarily in that order). Education & employment: Went to college in Lubbock, Tx at Texas Tech University.  Received a BBA in MIS/Finance and MBA with a concentration in MIS.  Went to work at Sandia National Labs in 1992 and currently still employed there which is my first and only job outside of the farm. marital stats:  Married 10 years in June but that will probably be done in about a month. fishin’ stats:  Started fishing early on mostly on lakes and stock ponds around the house.  Not much to choose from in west Texas.  In 1992, a co-worker introduced me to flyfishing and have looked back since. Other interest: bird hunting and up until 1992-93, competitive trapshooting. Started shooting in 1979 through 4-H.  Shot skeet for about 1 1/2 years before a friend invited me over to the trap range one Saturday.  Shot three rounds that day and the friend told my Dad that if he didn’t take me to San Angelo the next day to shoot in the Zone II shoot that he would.  Dad took me that next day where I won runner up in the handicap championship.  Used the prize money to buy my own BT-99 and finished out that year shooting only singles and handicap.  The next year I started shooting doubles in order to try and make the All-American team.  Made the junior team that year and the next.  After the second year on the team, the ATA sent me to the US Nationals for Olympic style shooting where I won the US Nationals. Over the next 3 years, I won the Nationals one more time and 3rd twice.  As a junior, I shot in two World Championships in 1983 (Canada) and 1985 (Italy).  Won 2nd in ‘83 and 4th in ‘85.  I quit Olympic style after ‘85 and went back to shooting ATA.  Shot for the next 6 years with my best year coming in the 91′ season where I ended up high-overall and doubles (at the time, my average was 8th highest on record but they’ve since kicked the livin’ snot outta that) average leader for the year.  Over the years, I shot a Browning BT-99, Gamba combo, Perazzi, Beretta (they made a matched set of combo’s for me when I was there in 85), and finally a Kreighoff K-80 from ‘89 on.  In ‘93, I was hitting pretty hard on the burnout factor when I suffered a 2.5-degree separation of my right shoulder playing softball.  Combine those two things with my new love of flyfishing, I decided to hang’em up.  I’m also an avid hacker, and I do mean hacker, of the golf ball. Jeez, pretty simple life I guess but that’s about it. Kelly

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btw, here in nc, we call it the sidearm, m*****f*****g rhodo cast.

hee hee hee.  OK honest show of hands, who’s finally ripped off a rhodo branch that was getting in their way?? Regards, Jeff

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Guilty! Cut it off, walk away and hope it doesn’t grow back before you return.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw, here in nc, we call it the sidearm, m*****f*****g rhodo cast. hee hee hee.  OK honest show of hands, who’s finally ripped off a rhodo branch that was getting in their way?? Regards, Jeff

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Yea, I do that all the time.. it’s, uhh, on purpose, yea that’s it.. It’s amazing how well this works.. if I only had the ability to do this at will. My errant cast strung like a close line along the willows. I tried flipping the line off the willows and in the process, the fly dropped into the lie, the fish took, jumped the log and brok

– -Mark  –  Particle Salad/ Noom Room Studio  http://home.earthlink.net/~psalad  mp3 songs:  http://www.mp3.com/particlesalad

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Some times we have to let the fish win — NOT!  Next time out, try a well weighted Dupont spinner.  Works every time.                     Frank Reid P.S. For those unfamiliar with the vernacular, a Dupont spinner is so-named because the pricipal manufacturer is the Dupont explosives division.  One can normally be obtained from "Crazy Lefty," the guy that works in the explosives bunker at your neighborhood rock quary for a small price. Warning:  an overuse of false casting while using one may be hazardous to your health. sportsmanship snipped – – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The fish is still there, I still try for it, but I think that’s the closest I’m going to get.

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I first noticed it out of the corner of my eye, a dimple under some overhanging willows. <good story snipped

Ah, the old willow cast.   Thanks for a good one. Joe F.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I first noticed it out of the corner of my eye, a dimple under some overhanging willows. Looking closer, I saw the steady, patterned rise of a fish.  I moved into position down and across from the fish and surveyed the situation. The fish was feeding in some very shallow water and was protected by dense willows above and a log protruding from the bank just upstream from his lie. I thought that maybe a side arm cast would keep the fly low enough to clear the willows and somehow land in the small slow water feeding area behind the log. I cast, snagged the willow, broke off my fly and put down the fish. Each time there were surface feeding fish about, I would find this fish methodically sipping in his hole. For awhile, I tried to come up with something new each time I passed his lie. I tried downstream casts, but the current would either push my fly past the small area where he fed or pile it up and snag the log. During hopper season, I tried skipping a hopper into his lie but caught willows and bark. I tried my crude imitations of pile casts and curve casts but the drift would never bring the fly into his feeding lane. I bushwhacked through the thick willows on the bank where he fed, hoping to try dapping, but long before I got into position, he was put down. When I reached out to extricate the flies I had lost in the willows from my past futile attempts, I was tempted to do some trimming but that didn’t seem too sporting. I had tried everything I could think of to get a fly to this fish. I probably could have somehow swung a streamer or nymph under the log and taken the fish, but it was a consistent, steady surface feeder and I was determined to meet it on these terms. I felt the side arm cast I first tried came the closest to getting the fly where it needed to be. Each time I passed its lie I would give it a shot. I mostly caught willows, but once in a while I would get a cast in where it belonged but the current always grabbed the tippet, dragged the fly and put down the fish. After each failure, I would go upstream to a shallow run to catch a couple easy fish to appease myself. One day, after fishing the run and getting ready to head home, I looked downstream noticed the fish was again rising. I was probably 40 feet away. I have trouble hitting an area the size of a Buick at this distance, much less one the size of a pie pan lying under some willows, but what the hell, one last cast. I hauled my three weight and let a cast go. My errant cast strung like a close line along the willows. I tried flipping the line off the willows and in the process, the fly dropped into the lie, the fish took, jumped the log and broke me off. The fish is still there, I still try for it, but I think that’s the closest I’m going to get. Willi

a nice read…thanks.  btw, here in nc, we call it the sidearm, m*****f*****g rhodo cast. to make it even more challenging, as if the bizarre twists of the branches and leaves aren’t enough, at certain times of the year, the rhodos have a sticky substance at the flower heads of the branches which is stronger than any commercial glue.  put your fly or leader in it and it’s generally easier just to cut the tippet. jeff

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I first noticed it out of the corner of my eye, a dimple under some overhanging willows. Looking closer, I saw the steady, patterned rise of a fish.  I moved into position down and across from the fish and surveyed the situation. The fish was feeding in some very shallow water and was protected by dense willows above and a log protruding from the bank just upstream from his lie. I thought that maybe a side arm cast would keep the fly low enough to clear the willows and somehow land in the small slow water feeding area behind the log. I cast, snagged the willow, broke off my fly and put down the fish. Each time there were surface feeding fish about, I would find this fish methodically sipping in his hole. For awhile, I tried to come up with something new each time I passed his lie. I tried downstream casts, but the current would either push my fly past the small area where he fed or pile it up and snag the log. During hopper season, I tried skipping a hopper into his lie but caught willows and bark. I tried my crude imitations of pile casts and curve casts but the drift would never bring the fly into his feeding lane. I bushwhacked through the thick willows on the bank where he fed, hoping to try dapping, but long before I got into position, he was put down. When I reached out to extricate the flies I had lost in the willows from my past futile attempts, I was tempted to do some trimming but that didn’t seem too sporting. I had tried everything I could think of to get a fly to this fish. I probably could have somehow swung a streamer or nymph under the log and taken the fish, but it was a consistent, steady surface feeder and I was determined to meet it on these terms. I felt the side arm cast I first tried came the closest to getting the fly where it needed to be. Each time I passed its lie I would give it a shot. I mostly caught willows, but once in a while I would get a cast in where it belonged but the current always grabbed the tippet, dragged the fly and put down the fish. After each failure, I would go upstream to a shallow run to catch a couple easy fish to appease myself. One day, after fishing the run and getting ready to head home, I looked downstream noticed the fish was again rising. I was probably 40 feet away. I have trouble hitting an area the size of a Buick at this distance, much less one the size of a pie pan lying under some willows, but what the hell, one last cast. I hauled my three weight and let a cast go. My errant cast strung like a close line along the willows. I tried flipping the line off the willows and in the process, the fly dropped into the lie, the fish took, jumped the log and broke me off. The fish is still there, I still try for it, but I think that’s the closest I’m going to get. Willi

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Congratulations Dave

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BTW: When replying to Codmarines posts we should use something other than "[snip]" to indicate we shortened the message

Auuuughhh! — Michael Era

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Hi Shaun, here’s a trick I learned that works for me….take the male ferrule of each section and lay it along side your nose while twisting it and rubbing it back and forth a few times.  The natural oil in your skin will lube the ferrules sufficiently.  Also, if you have problems taking it apart after setting the sections really tight, put the rod behind your legs with a firm grip on the section to be pulled apart, then spread your knees apart, thereby letting your leg muscles do the work.  I keep a non-skid piece of rubber matting in my vest to help get a grip on the rod when it wants to be stubborn.  I have the same rod as you and all this works for me. Regards,

Guys: I’ve got the same rod, same problems, same solution.  Good advice.  One little detail:  When you use your legs to separate the rod, place your hands, and grip the rod on the OUTSIDE of your knees.  I know this seems really obvious, but I actually saw someone attempt it the other way. Oh, and one other piece of advice: If you live in blackfly country, and you use Deet products, make sure you don’t rub deet from your nose crease  onto the rod.  I’m guessing you’d end up with a one-piece rod. brent

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I have a St. Croix 8.5′ 5wt 4pc travel rod and I’m having some trouble taking the sections apart.  Is there a standard method for lubricating the joints of rods? Also, I find the action of this rod superb if I jam the sections in pretty hard (hence the problem!), but pretty sluggish if not.  Am I doing anything wrong?  Should I go to a 6wt line? Appreciate any help. Shaun

  Rub the male end with parafin. Many rods load well with a line size higher than spec. It’s a matter of choice. I’d give it a try if you’re not satisfied with the action with a #5 line. Raalph H

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If you want to try 6wt line you might check out hookhack.com . Under specials this month they list a Climax double taper line that is 5wt on one end and 6wt on the other.                                                                   Doug Campbell – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Many rods load well with a line size higher than spec. It’s a matter of choice. I’d give it a try if you’re not satisfied with the action with a #5 line. Raalph H

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I assume you are talking about graphite rods.   A friend uses a little bow string wax which make the rod easier to take apart but also prevents wear from putting the rods together and taking them apart so often

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Hi, A friend uses a little bow string wax which make the rod easier to take apart but also prevents wear from putting the rods together and taking them apart so often

PMFJI, but I learned a trick while fishing in MT a few years back. Just lay the male part of the rod against your cheek next to your nose and below your eye.  Now twist the rod to wipe the oil from your skin onto the rod.  That has always worked for me. Best, Bill

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My spouse, Rachel (a/k/a "she who must be obeyed"), asked me what i was doing…told her i had logged on a newsgroup of flyfishermen and was reading discussions about "jungle cock capes", "joint lubrication", and "nymphs"…i’m sure you know what she said next… jeff (now with cyber nanny filter in full operation)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Shaun, here’s a trick I learned that works for me….take the male ferrule of each section and lay it along side your nose while twisting it and rubbing it back and forth a few times.  The natural oil in your skin will lube the ferrules sufficiently.  Also, if you have problems taking it apart after setting the sections really tight, put the rod behind your legs with a firm grip on the section to be pulled apart, then spread your knees apart, thereby letting your leg muscles do the work.  I keep a non-skid piece of rubber matting in my vest to help get a grip on the rod when it wants to be stubborn.  I have the same rod as you and all this works for me. Regards, Guys: I’ve got the same rod, same problems, same solution.  Good advice.  One little detail:  When you use your legs to separate the rod, place your hands, and grip the rod on the OUTSIDE of your knees.  I know this seems really obvious, but I actually saw someone attempt it the other way. Oh, and one other piece of advice: If you live in blackfly country, and you use Deet products, make sure you don’t rub deet from your nose crease  onto the rod.  I’m guessing you’d end up with a one-piece rod. brent

Hi Guys, I took Mike Maxwell Speycasting course and the 3pc or 4 pc rods are hard to take apart. What Mr. Maxwell recommends is white candle wax on the male end and line the ferrule a 1/4 turn offset, then twist it in alignment. This eliminates taping your ferrules with electrical tape. After fishing all day the rod get worked pretty hard, the ferrule does not come apart very easy, so he recommends cooling your rod under tap water or in the river and untwist the opposite way you turn to put it on. Believe me it works, after a friend just about put his shoulder out pulling it apart and nearly tearing the guides off, I told him to put under the garden hose and it came apart with no problem. Note: Make sure the female end is clean, with no grit or sand or it will dig into the male end and destroy you rod.

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Don’t use nose oil, it is acidic and will corrode the metal ferrules.  Other products such as candle wax or silicone grease will not destroy the metal, and are often recommended by the manufacture.  A collector I used to know, said he could tell the rods that had been nose oiled and showed the resultant corroded metal ferrules.

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I have a St. Croix 8.5′ 5wt 4pc travel rod and I’m having some trouble taking the sections apart.  Is there a standard method for lubricating the joints of rods? Also, I find the action of this rod superb if I jam the sections in pretty hard (hence the problem!), but pretty sluggish if not.  Am I doing anything wrong?  Should I go to a 6wt line? Appreciate any help. Shaun

What you need is a bottle of Gehrke’s Slink, the best damn joint lubricator money can buy. Once you’ve tried this you’ll never use parafin again. It’s a little more expensive at $5 a bottle, but it will make your rod feel like a brand new top-of-the-line Sage. — something bogus to avoid spam)

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well might as well put my two cents in. Rub the male ends on your nose or forhead, seriously the little bit of oil from your skin is just enough to do the trick. And pull the sections apart by placing them behind your knees and hold them tight and spread your legs slightly and they should pull apart without twisting them off.An older gentleman showed me this trick on a bamboo rod i have that i’m afraid of breaking and they wrere on there good jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If this a graphite rod, then rub a candle on the male end of the ferrule to give a thin coat of wax once every 3 months or so, and the joint will be good shape. I have a St. Croix 8.5′ 5wt 4pc travel rod and I’m having some trouble taking the sections apart.  Is there a standard method for lubricating the joints of rods? Also, I find the action of this rod superb if I jam the sections in pretty hard (hence the problem!), but pretty sluggish if not.  Am I doing anything wrong?  Should I go to a 6wt line? Appreciate any help. Shaun

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – well might as well put my two cents in. Rub the male ends on your nose or forhead, seriously the little bit of oil from your skin is just enough to do the trick. And pull the sections apart by placing them behind your knees and hold them tight and spread your legs slightly and they should pull apart without twisting them off.An older gentleman showed me this trick on a bamboo rod i have that i’m afraid of breaking and they wrere on there good jim If this a graphite rod, then rub a candle on the male end of the ferrule to give a thin coat of wax once every 3 months or so, and the joint will be good shape. I have a St. Croix 8.5′ 5wt 4pc travel rod and I’m having some trouble taking the sections apart.  Is there a standard method for lubricating the joints of rods? Also, I find the action of this rod superb if I jam the sections in pretty hard (hence the problem!), but pretty sluggish if not.  Am I doing anything wrong?  Should I go to a 6wt line? Appreciate any help. Shaun

_______  Everyone has failed "Ferrules 201"  (Lubrication Course) The Metallics of Nickel Silver dictates that the metal itself is its own best lubricant and smoothness of inserting (this sounds sexy) is determined by polish and/or the micro finish that is put on with a finish of 1500 Grit. What everyone needs to do is keep their male and female parts of their ferrules clean.  Grit and grime are your worst enemy excepting of course, yourselves for not keeping your male and female parts clean. Keep all lubricants off of your ferrules altogether.  It is dirt that wears ferrules out and it is dirt that makes them stick together and difficult to take apart.  If this occurs, use a cotton swab and a little ivory (a very mild, neural PHfactor soap to lean out your female ferrules) soap.  This product does not affect any of the varnish, epoxy, or thread finishes.  The female ferrule has a plug inside, so no solutions will get into the end of your fly rod inside and swell or rot bamboo woods over time.  The same holds true with graphite fly rod ferrules in that graphite is its own best lubricant. You don’t want to try and help fly rods to come apart.  It they fly apart while fly fishing, you may  have very dirty ferrules and you are not getting an airtight fit.  Or!  Your ferrules may be worn out and need replacing. This is the end of ‘rod joint lubrication 201.’ Any questions? — Mr. G.

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I’ve got a question about trying again after the end of a 25-year marriage. (I’m a 54-year-old male dumpee).  Naturally, I plan to use the usual methods to try and find someone to share my life with, but in this day of the internet, I thought I might try something additional, and I wanted to find out what y’all thought. I have no desire to "put on a front".  I think it would be only fair to let a possible partner find out all necessary information about me, with a minimum of effort or embarrassment for all concerned. So my idea was to set up a web page, with my personal details, and if I meet someone who seems to have possibilities, direct them to the site, so they can find out all relevant information.  This way, if I’m not the type they are looking for, it would save time for all concerned. Now the idea of the web page is not to attract possible partners, as I would have no desire or expectation that a random ’surfer’ would happen upon it. The idea again is to point someone I have already met to look at the page. While surfing, I found that I apparently was not the first to come up with this idea, as I have seen pages that seem to be of this type, so the question is: Is this a good idea? Now, after the reception of my "A mountain out of molehill" post, I suppose it might be a good idea to leave out that minor detail, and fill in a possible candidate when the time seems ripe, but other that that, do you think that the idea of a web page is ridiculous , or does it have merit. Any ideas are welcome. Thank you, Simcha Gomez  (a pseudonym)

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Personally I think that life has gotten all too impersonal. It is entirely up to you how you feel about trying something like that. But true Love if there really is such a thing I am not sure you will find it that way. You may find a lot of Golddiggers if you aren’t careful, And careful is what you want to be on the internet. Can’t you go to local coffee shops or take up a new hobby and try to meet people that way? I am certainly not going to recommend a Bar or club. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve got a question about trying again after the end of a 25-year marriage. (I’m a 54-year-old male dumpee).  Naturally, I plan to use the usual methods to try and find someone to share my life with, but in this day of the internet, I thought I might try something additional, and I wanted to find out what y’all thought. I have no desire to "put on a front".  I think it would be only fair to let a possible partner find out all necessary information about me, with a minimum of effort or embarrassment for all concerned. So my idea was to set up a web page, with my personal details, and if I meet someone who seems to have possibilities, direct them to the site, so they can find out all relevant information.  This way, if I’m not the type they are looking for, it would save time for all concerned. Now the idea of the web page is not to attract possible partners, as I would have no desire or expectation that a random ’surfer’ would happen upon it. The idea again is to point someone I have already met to look at the page. While surfing, I found that I apparently was not the first to come up with this idea, as I have seen pages that seem to be of this type, so the question is: Is this a good idea? Now, after the reception of my "A mountain out of molehill" post, I suppose it might be a good idea to leave out that minor detail, and fill in a possible candidate when the time seems ripe, but other that that, do you think that the idea of a web page is ridiculous , or does it have merit. Any ideas are welcome. Thank you, Simcha Gomez  (a pseudonym)

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Yes, I think that would be a good idea, although I would be kind of leary .  I suppose if you write back and forth for a long time and send pictures it would be o.k.   Maybe the web page would give some credibility to you also, for people would be aware of what you like to do for hobbies and pictures of your family would make that person comfortable in writing you.    Oh sure go do it! )

I think it seems like a good idea, too.  But then, I’m a guy, so what do I know about what women want. It just seems like a really thorough personals ad to me.  Instead of "DWM who likes fly-fishing and Harleys seeking beautiful woman with similar interests" he could add his URL.  This way they would be able to find out that he likes fly-fishing in central Oregon and restoring antique Harley engines, as well as his height, weight, a picture, some of his favorite books, and CDs. It seems like it would really save time in weeding out the women who are looking for a rich Adonis.  I would rather be up front with a woman about who I am, what I do, and what I like, than to have to go through an evening, a week, or a month of stress dating while she finds it out, only to dump me, which can be quite painful by itself. I would think it would be a real time- and stress-saver. — Drew

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Yes, I think that would be a good idea, although I would be kind of leary .  I suppose if you write back and forth for a long time and send pictures it would be o.k.   Maybe the web page would give some credibility to you also, for people would be aware of what you like to do for hobbies and pictures of your family would make that person comfortable in writing you.    Oh sure go do it! )

Kim

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Simcha, Yes you can meet people on the internet, if you know what you’re doing. I caution you, though, it is a lot harder for men than women. But I know quite a lot of people who met this way and are happily involved, myself included… Having a web page is a nice touch, provided you don’t make it look like your dating resume and fill it with details about why you are a good catch. That stuff (and I’ve seen a lot) is a real turn-off, unless it can be done with just the right touch of self-effacing humor. If you do a home page, make it something personal that would interest anyone in your life — relatives, friends, colleagues. Instead of merely listing your hobbies and interests resume style, make one or two the centerpiece of your page. I.e., Simcha’s Fly Fishing Web Site… not Simcha’s Chick Fishing Web Site…. get the idea? I’d also recommend leaving off your photo, and sending it out only by request. You want a woman who is attracted to you for your mind, not your looks, right? Still, absolutely nothing beats the personal touch . . . the slow buildup as you reveal details about yourself via email, until finally you swap photos and then plan that first real-life meeting! Meeting over the Internet still requires the same amount of effort on your part, but I feel it has very definite advantages, especially for newly divorced people who can’t face the brutal rejection of the singles scene. It is most ideal for people who can express themselves well in writing. Good luck — and remember, just have fun with it. Dating is not a job search!.;-) jen  

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Simcha, Why don’t you send in your photo and your bio to either me or Lee, that way you will meet others that are in the same situation you are in?  Just an idea. Daisy Add variety to your sex life, use the other hand. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve got a question about trying again after the end of a 25-year marriage. (I’m a 54-year-old male dumpee).  Naturally, I plan to use the usual methods to try and find someone to share my life with, but in this day of the internet, I thought I might try something additional, and I wanted to find out what y’all thought. I have no desire to "put on a front".  I think it would be only fair to let a possible partner find out all necessary information about me, with a minimum of effort or embarrassment for all concerned. So my idea was to set up a web page, with my personal details, and if I meet someone who seems to have possibilities, direct them to the site, so they can find out all relevant information.  This way, if I’m not the type they are looking for, it would save time for all concerned. Now the idea of the web page is not to attract possible partners, as I would have no desire or expectation that a random ’surfer’ would happen upon it. The idea again is to point someone I have already met to look at the page. While surfing, I found that I apparently was not the first to come up with this idea, as I have seen pages that seem to be of this type, so the question is: Is this a good idea? Now, after the reception of my "A mountain out of molehill" post, I suppose it might be a good idea to leave out that minor detail, and fill in a possible candidate when the time seems ripe, but other that that, do you think that the idea of a web page is ridiculous , or does it have merit. Any ideas are welcome. Thank you, Simcha Gomez  (a pseudonym)

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     I have been fishing for about fourteen years now, since I was about three.  However, the fishing I have done has been either spinning or baitcasting for various types of fish in mostly still bodies of water, or small rivers.  I recently had the opportunity to try my hand at flyfishing for trout, something which had been somewhat frightened of due to its seemingly immense complexity. Since then, it has occured to me that there was a lot that I was limiting myself from flyfishing.  The result, I am interested in starting a.s.a.p.  I realize that there is a lot to learn, and that it may take a very long time to master, but i have plenty of time ahead of me and am quite eager to learn.      First, though, it seems to me that I should first purchase a rod and a reel.  This is where my first discrepancy arises.  Being that I am new to the sport, I am unsure as to what I should purchase.  i would be using the setup mainly for bass and trout, though primarily for bass due to the limited amount of good long-term trout waters in my area.  For reference, that would be Cleveland, OH.  What weight setup should I get?  I was wondering if there is a good medium which would work well on smaller ohio bass (around two pounds, give or take) and trout, perhaps even small steelhead.  It seemed that a seven weight might be adequate.      Anyhow, I am looking to spend around 200 dollars for a decent setup.  Now for my second question.  How should I set up my line?  From what I have gathered, it seems that it would be best to use either a weight forward or bass bug taper.  However, I am unsure as far as a leader and tippet goes.  It seems as if it might be best to get a couple of sizes, depending on the situation. What are your suggestions?      To sum up a rather lengthy post, I need to know what sort of setup to purchase, and what sort of leaders and tippets to employ.  All suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance Ron. By the way, please mail responses directly to my.

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i would be using the setup mainly for bass and trout, though primarily for bass due to the limited amount of good long-term trout waters in my area.  For reference, that would be Cleveland, OH.  What weight setup should I get?

I would suggest a seven weight rod, with a double taper  flyline. A weight forward line would be fine as well. Anyhow, I am looking to spend around 200 dollars for a decent setup.

At that price, you’ll find a great flyfishing setup. Don’t spend too much more yet; you need practice, not fancy equipment. However, I am unsure as far as a leader and tippet goes.  It seems as if it might be best to get a couple of sizes, depending on the situation. What are your suggestions?

Stroll down to your local FFing shop and ask them what they’d suggest. They’ll have the skinny on the local conditions, and if you’re lucky, someone will take you under his wing. However, I am unsure as far as a leader and tippet goes. It seems situation. Best of luck! Frank Longtine                             the Second Amendment was not, and is not, about 1984 Ford F-150                                  hunting rights. It was, and is, about 1997 Rokon Trail Breaker                       tyrranical governments.

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There does not seem to be much interest in old flies and I’m wondering if anyone knows of a fly fishing museum that I could give them to. I have over 600 trout flies of at least 40+ varities that are 75+ years old. Most of them are tied directly to a 4" gut leader with loop tied at the end. The flies with gut leaders are stored in either in their original packets from Wm. Mills & Sons or in a pigskin leather bound flat fly files (so they are flat). The flies with steel eyes are stored in boxes and are much newer (possibly 50

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I’m in the market for a good 5 wt. rod and have looked at the GLoomis GL3 and IMX models.  I have not had an opportunity to cast either yet, but was wondering if people thought the IMX was worth the extra bucks. I can pick up a GL3 for $CDN 265 and the IMX for $CDN 395.  What are your thoughts? Paul Keywords:

We’d buy the GL3 for your first (good) rod. It’s tougher, it won’t cast as well but it will certainly send a 90 foot line. The IMX is more expensive and I enjoy the extra punch but I’m not sure you will notice a big difference if you havent done a lot of casting. Dennis & Geroge Altantic Fly Fishing School Brookfield NS, Canada   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I’m in the market for a good 5 wt. rod and have looked at the GLoomis GL3 and IMX models.  I have not had an opportunity to cast either yet, but was wondering if people thought the IMX was worth the extra bucks. I can pick up a GL3 for $CDN 265 and the IMX for $CDN 395.  What are your thoughts? Paul Keywords:

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Paul, Don’t buy without casting the rod.  And if you cast both and cannot tell the difference, well. . . .   Phone the Loomis Rep and ask how you can try out the rods.  S/he should be happy to oblige.  BTW, if you want to spend money, take a look at T&T or a Scott rod. Cheers – Erik

: I’m in the market for a good 5 wt. rod and have looked at : the GLoomis GL3 and IMX models.  I have not had an opportunity : to cast either yet, but was wondering if people thought the : IMX was worth the extra bucks. I can pick up a GL3 for $CDN 265 : and the IMX for $CDN 395.  What are your thoughts? : Paul : Keywords: — Burnaby, BC

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I would appreciate any info on fishing the Carson river arrount the junction of 88 and 89.  Will be there in about a week. Thanks Mike

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Suggest trying the flyfishing section of the West Fork east outside of Markleeville.  Also consider Pleasant Valley creek, which you access from mid Markleeville.  Probably get directions from within town.

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several times I have had very enjopyable fishing on the Carson during the first week or two in September.  I have headed west up the river from the eastern side of the Sierras on highway 4 (or what turns into 4 when it gets to the top.  Easy access from road.  pretty water and moderately easy wading.  I’m guessing they were hatchery rainbows (because I generally do not catch so many 13-14" wild trout (by a long shot), but they were pretty, not stupid, and somewhat selective (but luckily not too selective).  Best of luck.  Bill Mack.

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(WFMack6317) writes: I’m guessing they were hatchery rainbows (because I generally do not catch so many 13-14" wild trout (by a long shot),  Bill Mack.

They generally stock cutthroat in the East Carson.  You can tell a hatchery trout, their dorsal fins are chewed down.  There are some big browns in the river below hangman bridge where it leaves the road.   I have caught rainbows, browns and brookies in the West Carson.  The brookies are small and live in the river along the road to Blue Lakes. There was a beaver dam in the meadow one year that had some promise of bigger trout in this area.  I never went back too see if they tore it out or not.  This is a place that would really benefit by fencing the cattle back from the river like they did at Yellow creek by Lake Almanore.  The before and after fencing on Yellow Creek really showed me how much damage grazing cattle do to a stream. Ernie Harrison

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: I’m heading to Colo. next week to ski, but the snow looks a little thin : and I’m thinking of bringing some fly tackle.  I haven’t fished Colo. in : years, but have fond memories of the Blue some thirty years ago, learning         I think there is typically some activity on the Blue this time of year.  As you are going to be skiing (maybe close to summit county) it would be a convenient place to go.  Any of the local fly shops should be very helpful in outfitting you with a decent selection of flies and should also give you some idea of where to go.           If you wouldn’t mind a drive, you might try the South Platte good luck

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| |   If you wouldn’t mind a drive, you might try the South Platte |   Where is Cheeseman Canyon. Does one need a 4-wheel drive to get there??  Is it still running??

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:    Where is Cheeseman Canyon. Does one need a 4-wheel drive to get there??  Is it :  still running?? :   : The So. Platte in Cheesman Canyon is a tailwater. so there is always open water (unless temperature get very low : and cause some icing). It’s a hour drive west of Denver on pavement and a 15-min. to half-hour hike on trail into 3 mile long : canyon stretch. Many large but educated rainbows there. I would suggest hiring a guide to get you into fish quickly. Call : "The Flyfisher" flyshop at 303-322-5014 if your interested, as the Canyon can be very cruel to a newcomer. : Yours virtually, : Gary W. Godden : Denver, Colorado         If you are planning ahead of time and can get your hands on the book "Flyfishing the South Platte River" by Roger Hill, you could probably save money (I’m broke) and do reasonably well.  It is a very well written book and details the important flies and hatches all year long (including Jan.).

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   Where is Cheeseman Canyon. Does one need a 4-wheel drive to get there??  Is it  still running?? The So. Platte in Cheesman Canyon is a tailwater. so there is always open water (unless temperature get very low

and cause some icing). It’s a hour drive west of Denver on pavement and a 15-min. to half-hour hike on trail into 3 mile long canyon stretch. Many large but educated rainbows there. I would suggest hiring a guide to get you into fish quickly. Call "The Flyfisher" flyshop at 303-322-5014 if your interested, as the Canyon can be very cruel to a newcomer. Yours virtually, Gary W. Godden Denver, Colorado

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I’m heading to Colo. next week to ski, but the snow looks a little thin and I’m thinking of bringing some fly tackle.  I haven’t fished Colo. in years, but have fond memories of the Blue some thirty years ago, learning the fundamentals.  Any info on impact to the resource, locations, gear and tackle wold be appreciated.  Good fly shops around Summit county?  I have winter fished in Minn. (yes) and Mont., so I have some idea about what’s involved, like getting in the water without taking a swim.

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