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Had a long trip to the back of beyond.Davis creek in the Yukon-Koyukuk Alaska region.The only artificials I took were DuPont spinners.Mining is such a bore compared to fly fishing.But the 4th was memorable.I shot down about 1000 yds3 of secondary and tertiary gravels for the guys to ash.( someone has to get the gold to plate hooks with )

Thank god you are back.  Finally these environuts will get off the timber industry and start in on the mining. <g   Welcome back to a working man’s hell. Warren X#-[

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 Had a long trip to the back of beyond.Davis creek in the Yukon-Koyukuk Alaska region.The only artificials I took were DuPont spinners.Mining is such a bore compared to fly fishing.But the 4th was memorable.I shot down about 1000 yds3 of secondary and tertiary gravels for the guys to ash.( someone has to get the gold to plate hooks with ) —  Don Thompson  Zoomie(BushBug)  ACA#3460  TLCB#335  Any Time, Any Place  Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

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I was organizing my fly box and found that some of the flies had hooks which were rusty. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about what should be done with these flies  -  should they be thrown out, could they be repaired, does it matter that I use rusty hooks when fishing, etc. As well, is there a way of ensuring that hooks will not rust after use. Any thoughts are much appreciated. Jon H.

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Not sure I would use rusty hooks. You can prevent hooks from rusting in the future by making sure they are dried out before sticking back into fly box. Most logical approach is to dry them all on a table after a day’s fishing and then place them back into dry fly box for storage before next trip.(hopefully a short time) Regards from Montreal John Brkich

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I was organizing my fly box and found that some of the flies had hooks which were rusty. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about what should be done with these flies  -  should they be thrown out, Jon H.

Yes! Yes! Yes! Throw out! Just your luck someday you’ll hook the best trout of your life – some magnificent rainbow, 6/8 pounds – he’ll leap out of the water and show you his beauty and grace. Your heart will start to race and then he’ll break off.  When you reel in you’ll notice he didn’t bust your leader, or pop the fly off the end. You’ll notice the bend of the hook broken off.  OUCH!! Joel Axelrad

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I was organizing my fly box and found that some of the flies had hooks which were rusty. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about what should be done with these flies  -  should they be thrown out, could they be repaired, does it matter that I use rusty hooks when fishing, etc. As well, is there a way of ensuring that hooks will not rust after use. Any thoughts are much appreciated. Jon H.

  Flies are designed to deteriate quickly in wet conditions for the fished sake. At the cost of flys dump any rusted,aint woth lost fish. next time you get back from fishing open the box so moisture isn’t traped. In the south east your air conditioner will dry them, in the south west the dry air does the trick. In the rest of the country, the wifes hair dryer works well.                                                          John Popp                                                       in Sanford Fl.

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Anyone have an aluminum jon boat that they can recommend?

Rich, If it’s just for yourself try a ten foot aluminium jon boat.  Sea Nymph is a good brand.  It’s very light and doesn’t draw much water.   I believe you can get one new for about $500.00 – if it’s used, in my neck of the woods (Sullivan County, New York), they go for about $150 to $200 though the newspapers.   Plus, you can stand in them  when you cast which you really can’t do in a kayak or, for that matter, in a canoe. Merry Christmas, Tony Ritter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Seconding another poster, have you considered a kayak?  Simple, light (50-80 pounds), easy to carry single-handed (simply hold it over your head and trot along), much faster than other paddle-powered boats (you will leave a rowboat in the dust, metaphorically speaking, and a canoe too), and stable enough if you get the right one.  If you get enthusiastic and skilled enough, you can even paddle these out into the ocean and saltwater fish. I would particularly look at the Folboat (sp?) brand of folding sea kayaks. These have a frame that you assemble and then insert into a rubber/fabric skin.  The advantages over regular kayaks are: the cockpit is open (your legs are exposed, rather than being tucked into a round coaming) which would make it easy to stash tackle bags, small coolers, the paddle, the rod, etc. which otherwise have to be strapped to the rounded top of the boat; these are beamy (wide) boats and hence very stable — not as stable as a jonboat and you won’t stand up in it, but if you have a minimum of coordination you’ll find it just fine to paddle, fish, even snooze in a seated position; because they break down and fit into a large duffel bag, you can stuff it in the trunk of your car or a closet or even check it on a plane; and, as folding kayaks go, it’s inexpensive (in the ballpark of $500-700 used for a single boat, I *think* — check out rec.boats.paddle.)  Hardcore sea kayakers may tell you the Folboat isn’t tough enough: they’re talking about multi-day ocean trips loaded with 100 pounds of food and water and launching through heavy surf, which isn’t too relevant for your usage.   Another folding kayak with a similar design, but tougher and more expensive, is the Klepper series.  (Kleppers have crossed the Atlantic, in fact.)  Overkill for fishing on a lake, and older ones might need too much TLC, but if you found one used for cheap enough it’d be OK. Yet another is the Feathercraft series.  I think these are tremendous for ocean use (I have two Feathercraft K-1’s) but they have a traditional hard cockpit coaming (not an open cockpit) and are definitely overkill (used price is like $3000).  I have flyfished from my Feathercraft off the California coast and found it a pain, since there was no handy place to put my rod when I picked up the paddle or vice versa. Another idea along the kayak line would be one of the surfboard style kayaks.  I don’t recall the actual name for this type.  They are molded out of a single piece of plastic, you sit in a molded depression, they are really quite cheap and capable but you do not stay dry so unless you like wearing wetsuits or fish in warm water . . . but might be a way to try out the concept for cheap, by renting one for a weekend. If you do choose a kayak, take a course in handling them and safety.   — Using Virtual Access http://www.soft-shop.com

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I’m looking for ideas and info. on what you all think is the ideal boat/pram for fly fishing.   I plan to fish small lakes that I will need to row, or use an electric or gas motor (if allowed).  The boat needs to be somewhat light (100# thereabouts) because I will have to lift and carry it maybe 100 yards to launch in some cases.  I can car top or trailer, does not matter. I have seen the dinky prams in the magazines, but I think I need more room. Anyone have an aluminum jon boat that they can recommend? Appreciate any help Rich

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If I were you I would look into a kayak. I upgraded from a float tube and think it’s great! If you want  I have some group postings I can email you. They helped me make my decision. Lot’s of good people in the group so you will get more good input, maybe more than you want. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking for ideas and info.

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I made the trip two years ago.  The one suggestion I would make strongly is to go north via the Cassiar rather than the Alaska Highway.  The Cassiar Highway is "relatively" new,  still some stretches not paved,  VERY shy on service stations,  But well worth a try.  We had planned to go north that way and return via the Alaska Hwy, but decided to travel the Cassiar both ways.  It’s only about 500 miles of your trip,  but much more rewarding than the much busier Alaska Hwy.  The Cassiar roughly parallels the Alaska highway on the west.  You head west from Prince George on HWY 16, turn north at Kitwanga and follow the Cassiar Highway til it intercepts the Alaska Highway near Watson Lake at the British Columbia/Yukon Territory border. There’s lots of excellent fly fishing along the way.  A couple of spots that I remember particularly well:  Edentenajon Lake – great place if you have a float tube or small boat. We even caught plenty for dinner wading along the shore where we camped.  Very nice but small private camp Red Goat Lodge, right on the lake.  Cottonwood River – spent about 2 hours catching and releasing MANY large grayling just off the road.  Grayling 16 – 18 inches, which is good size for them. If you’d like to see some photos of these places let me know at Works format.  Not professional quality, but they still get me excited to head north again. You’ll have a great time.  Enjoy your trip. BARRY – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : hello one and all- : i am planning my trip of a lifetime for next may- i am going to : drive from washington state to the yukon and alaska. if anyone : can recommend rivers to fish along the way i would be grateful : to hear about them. this posting marks the very beginning of my : research. my itinerary is wide open and the individual

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: hello one and all- : i am planning my trip of a lifetime for next may- i am going to : drive from washington state to the yukon and alaska. if anyone : can recommend rivers to fish along the way i would be grateful : to hear about them. this posting marks the very beginning of my : research. my itinerary is wide open and the individual : destinations will be determined by the fish and the scenery : along the way. as well as flyfishing i love photography and i’ll : be doing a lot of that too. wish i could go to sleep and wake up : in about 11 months… Starting in Washington State, point your car north.  Then turn right and go into N. Idaho.  Pick a river and begin your journey. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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: hello one and all- : i am planning my trip of a lifetime for next may- i am going to : drive from washington state to the yukon and alaska. if anyone : can recommend rivers to fish along the way i would be grateful : to hear about them. this posting marks the very beginning of my : research. my itinerary is wide open and the individual : destinations will be determined by the fish and the scenery : along the way. as well as flyfishing i love photography and i’ll : be doing a lot of that too. wish i could go to sleep and wake up : in about 11 months… Starting in Washington State, point your car north.  Then turn right and go into N. Idaho.  Pick a river and begin your journey.

As a starter buy a copy of the "Milepost" highway travel guide. It gives a detailed description of the Alaska Highway and gives details of the rivers and creeks that you cross and what fish are in them. There’s a lot of Grayling. I’ve driven the highway 3 times. Now days it’s just a well paved road through the wilderness with beautiful scenery Ed. Ed Fenton Burlington, Ontario, Canada

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hello one and all- i am planning my trip of a lifetime for next may- i am going to drive from washington state to the yukon and alaska. if anyone can recommend rivers to fish along the way i would be grateful to hear about them. this posting marks the very beginning of my research. my itinerary is wide open and the individual destinations will be determined by the fish and the scenery along the way. as well as flyfishing i love photography and i’ll be doing a lot of that too. wish i could go to sleep and wake up in about 11 months… thanks for any and all suggestions- greg

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  Does anyone have info on the Big Hole in July . I have to drop the Wife off in Salmon, ID. so I thought I would try fishing the Wisdom area. I have never been in that part of Montana and could use some help, where to stay , fish etc. We will be coming from  Ennis, Mt.    Thanks    Harry

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  Does anyone have info on the Big Hole in July .

Harry: Call and book a trip with Dick Sharon at Fishing Headquarters in Dillon, MT.  You can get the number from information–I believe the area code is 406.  He’s a great guide, and you will love the Big Hole. dcook

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 Does anyone have info on the Big Hole in July . I have to drop the Wife off in Salmon, ID. so I thought I would try fishing the Wisdom area. I have never been in that part of Montana and could use some help, where to stay , fish etc. We will be coming from  Ennis, Mt.   Thanks   Harry

Hi Harry, If you are coming through Ennis, don’t overlook the Madison River. I like the section below Ennis where it breaks into channels before it goes into Ennis Lake. Regarding the Big Hole: There are plenty of motels, etc in Wisdom, Wise River, and Melrose if that is your interest. If you plan on camping, you can do so at most (not all) Montana state fishing access points. Good Luck. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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writes: Can anyone give me some good advice on flyfishing in CentralNorth Jersey.  I’m new to the area and have fished on the south branch of the Raritan (Califon), but it’s incredibly crowded.  Would appreciate any pointers E-mail me back! Thanks Paul Amatangelo

Paul, Along with the Musconetcong River, you may want to try the Pequest, Paulinskill, and Big Flatbrook in New Jersey.  However, you may want to drive the extra distance and fish such rivers as the Bushkill and Lackawaxen in Pennsylvania, as well as the Beaverkill, Esopus, and the East & West branches of the Delaware River in New York. All these rivers are within two hours driving time from northern New Jersey.     Good Luck!

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I am 15 years old and live in Princeton NJ. I just started Fly Fishing a year ago and have tried many a spots in this area. Right in Princeton is the Stoney Brook which is stocked with trout and other fish and is known to produce bass and perch. The Assunpink River (not lake) has alot of perch and Shad and has produced a few trout and bass for me. The Pequest and Flatbrook rivers are also very good for trout. But for bass fly I would recomend a spot that I found two years ago when I was a spin fisher. It is in the Delaware Raritan canal. IT is right by the main entrance to the Bulls Island Campground on the Delaware River. Its on the New Jersey side in case your confused. Thats all I can THink of but if you would like advice on other spots feel free to write. Matt

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Saturday, May6 I went to the North branch of the Raritan at Rte 206 and 287. Very little crowd.  I didn’t catch any trout but another fellow had 3 on a stringer.

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Can anyone give me some good advice on flyfishing in CentralNorth Jersey.  I’m new to the area and have fished on the south branch of the Raritan (Califon), but it’s incredibly crowded.  Would appreciate any pointers E-mail me back! Thanks Paul Amatangelo

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Try the Musky west of the route 24 bridge just pass the fly stretch. This area has produced some 8 lb fish. I know, from first hand experience I didnt catch it, put a witnessed the fight and landing of the monster. The person who caught it was a rookie, only his third time out. Some people have all the luck. Good Luck.

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Hey, how ’bout some content in this post? You sparked my interest!

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Hey, how ’bout some content in this post? You sparked my interest!

This item sparked my interest too, so I’ll start.   I recently tried a new product for saltwater tying.  It’s colored hot glue (pink, orange, amber, green and many others available) for tying Mother of Epoxy (Glue) type bonefish and permit flies.  It is really easy to use this stuff.  Just add bead chain eyes to a saltwater hook.  Drop on a wad of hot glue, dip in water for 3-5 seconds, and it’s cool enough to mold with your hands.  If you don’t like the way the head turned out, you can dip it in very hot water and remold.   This colored hot glue is available at the craft store for aboout a tenth of the price of the fly shop (as are doll eyes and lots of other good stuff for saltwater flies). I recently went to Belize and a hot glue fly (regular tan glue) with a tuft of tan bucktail was red hot for bonefish. John Woodling Sacramento, CA

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Hey John , great post last month’s saltwater fly mag had a guy making these molds and cranking out some gorgeous deceivers…. 1. did you use a mold yourself? 2. Can you share the Namebrand and bottle size of the    stuff you are using? 3. what size hooks are you using 1/0-3/0?? 4. what do you use for Sacramento stripers? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -thanks?

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last month’s saltwater fly mag had a guy making these molds and cranking out some gorgeous deceivers…. 1. did you use a mold yourself?

That’s the beauty of hot glue, you don’t need a mold, you just mold it with your fingers.   For deceiver heads, I use epoxy.  It dries a lot clearer and harder.  You don’t need a mold, but you do need a slow rpm motor to turn these after you apply the epoxy (5 minutes) until it hardens. 2. Can you share the Namebrand and bottle size of the

   stuff you are using? I don’t recall the brand name, but they are standard size glue sticks. The fly shop also has a glue gun, and like everything else in a fly shop, it costs twice what the same thing costs in the hardware store. 3. what size hooks are you using 1/0-3/0??

For mother of glue flies for bonefish I use 4’s and 6’s 4. what do you use for Sacramento stripers?

I haven’t fished for them, but a lot of the Dan Blanton patterns are probably good. <<   John K. Woodling   < Sacramento, CA

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writes: 4. what do you use for Sacramento stripers? I haven’t fished for them, but a lot of the Dan Blanton patterns are probably good. <<   John K. Woodling   <

I’v had good luck with chartreuse patterns for clear water (like surf or fast moving tidal rivers) and yellow patterns for muddy water (like back bays). I noticed that blue and white also works in either environment, but I was using clousers, not deceivers. HighHooks-n-TightLines,       Jose

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Quoting jwoodling1 from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly     2. Can you share the Namebrand and bottle size of the     stuff you are using?     I don’t recall the brand name, but they are standard size glue sticks.     The fly shop also has a glue gun, and like everything else in a fly    shop, it costs twice what the same thing costs in the hardware store. This sounded like a great idea so I stopped by the arts & crafts store on the way home.  I picked up a low temp glue gun for $3.29 and a pack of 49 glue sticks in a variety of colors for $4.49.  Will give it a try this weekend. Jim in Southern California

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This sounded like a great idea so I stopped by the arts & crafts store on the way home.  I picked up a low temp glue gun for $3.29 and a pack of 49 glue sticks in a variety of colors for $4.49.  Will give it a try this weekend. Jim in Southern California

I wrote a short piece for American Angler back in 1986 or so, about using hot glue guns for fly tying. I still use them occasionally, for big flies (like some salt water flies). But there are drawbacks. The faster the hot glue hardens (higher melting temps) the stronger the glue is, and the harder it is to use, becuase the stuff sets up so fast. Low temperature glues are easier to work with, but the damn flies melt right in you fly box on a hot day. The only practicle solution is to use high temp glues, and learn how to work very fast.   Good hardware stores (the ones that cater to tradesmen) carry a variety of hot glue sticks, with faster and slower, hotter and cooler melting temperatures. Steer clear of "clear-colored" sticks. Clear hot glue sticks were developed for florists, for obvious reasons, but clear hot glue sticks have the lowest bonding strength. —

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: Quoting jwoodling1 from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly :     2. Can you share the Namebrand and bottle size of the :     stuff you are using? :     I don’t recall the brand name, but they are standard size glue sticks. :     The fly shop also has a glue gun, and like everything else in a fly :    shop, it costs twice what the same thing costs in the hardware store. : This sounded like a great idea so I stopped by the arts & crafts store on the : way home.  I picked up a low temp glue gun for $3.29 and a pack of 49 glue : sticks in a variety of colors for $4.49.  Will give it a try this weekend. So did I.   Bryan : Jim in Southern California

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| |     fishing AND backpacking AND caving AND biking AND…oh well | I couldn’t have said it better myself, and, you beat me to it! Not only is it more and more difficult to find a  male fishing partner as we all (stretch) get on in years, but such a female companion is amost an oxymoron.  One of these days I would really like someone to prove me wrong on that point…nudge,

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| |     fishing AND backpacking AND caving AND biking AND…oh well | I couldn’t have said it better myself, and, you beat me to it! Not only is it more and more difficult to find a  male fishing partner as we all (stretch) get on in years, but such a female companion is amost an oxymoron.  One of these days I would really like someone to prove me wrong on that point…nudge, Believe me, we exist!

Peggy                             "A friend walks in when everyone                                    else walks out"

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|   | Believe me, we exist! |   | Peggy                             "A friend walks in when everyone |                                    else walks out"    At least my faith has been restored  Now, if I can just find y’all (must be looking in the wrong    places, or hell, maybe it’s just me!) and catch a few trout this weekend, life’ll be perfect!    On another note, anyone out there know anything about the fishing conditions on the Perquimans River    in eastern NC?  I was telling someone about this river (used to be GREAT fishing on it, especially in    creeks) but it’s been years since I’ve been there…Last time I was the grass was so dense it was    real hard to fish thru…It used to go in cycles, a few years full of duckweed, a few years of almost    no grass, then back to tons of seaweed…How is it these days?  I’d hate to recommend a place that’s    difficult to fish…                                                         — scott

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| |     fishing AND backpacking AND caving AND biking AND…oh well | I couldn’t have said it better myself, and, you beat me to it! Not only is it more and more difficult to find a  male fishing partner as we all (stretch) get on in years, but such a female companion is amost an oxymoron.  One of these days I would really like someone to prove me wrong on that point…nudge,

Never they are out there to be found!! My wife is an example she loves rock hunting, spelunking(caving), fishing , hunting , camping, everything I always wanted. Don’t give up they are there. —    Spike                                 "Life is fun enjoy while you can"                                           I enjoy short-term "Investing"!

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Hi, I’m female and I love to fish! I even put the worms, live bait, etc. on the hook, and I even take the fish off the hook     myself (except for if it has big teeth!).  I’d rather be fishing right now!   Carol

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| Hi, | | I’m female and I love to fish! I even put the worms, live bait, etc. on the hook, and I even take the fish off the hook     | myself (except for if it has big teeth!).  I’d rather be fishing right now!   |   | Carol    Damn, and I live in Virginia!!!  ;-)                                 — scott

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| That s rry on the bride and groom and the bass boat is nothing…. | Oops, typo….story that is…. | I proposed to my wife during a moose hunting trip in northern Quebec (she | said afterwards she’d want it no other way).  She allows me to spends huge | amounts of money for hunting/fishing gear, and usually outshoots me at | grouse hunting.  But fishing…..now that’s where she comes to life!  You | take her fishing in the surf and camp on the beach.  She’s up before dawn | and waits until it’s light enough to see, and only returns for lunch and | when it gets dark!  And that’s even if the water’s dirty and nothing’s | biting!  She just won’t quit!  When a shark started taking fish off my | stringer, she just moved away from me.  She busted a rod last year on a | sting ray.  She almost always outfishes me, and sometimes guys are out | there trying to see what colors of plastics she’s using BEFORE she starts | catching them.  She plans on trying a little fly fishing in the surf this | year.  The only time she’s tried it was in Vermont with me, when she ended | up taking a swim in February.  The mild case of hypothermia didn’t faze her | one bit.  If somebody is hardcore, she’s it.  It’s scary.  And it’s that’s | not enough, she’s "model-quality" beautiful, and finishing her last year | of her veterinary degree at LSU so she can earn far more than I do.  Why | she loves me I’ll never know   |       | Andre |     fishing AND backpacking AND caving AND biking AND…oh well     By the way, anyone from Va have any suggestions for what flies might work     this coming weekend, besides the ole standbys?  Going out Sunday and need     to replenish my flies (lost 1, broke 1 and 3 came unraveled last week)…     I saw what looked like a mayfly while I was hiking but I’m not sure…I     haven’t decided if I’m going to the Bullpasture or somewhere in the     Shenendoah…                                         — scott

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| | Has anyone fly-fished for walleyes? If so what kind of flies did you use? Yeah, and how do you get all that color-distance-coded lead core wire line *AND* all the backing into a 3 1/2 oz. English-made palm-drag reel? And when will Orvis finally put their much-rumoured Lake Erie model bamboo rod into production??? Are there any parts of Lake Huron or Saginaw Bay that can be waded safely??? The Ultimate in Fishing Sport – casting to a rising walleye. Of course, a Real FlyFisherperson would be using a DRY FLY……         Michael J. Oatley                       205/730-8738                    

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Has anyone fly-fished for walleyes? If so what kind of flies did you use? -Joon

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Has anyone fly-fished for walleyes? If so what kind of flies did you

use? Not intentionally, but I caught five last year in the space of about ten minutes, at the tail end of a pool where I was fishing for bass (with a fly!!  Gasp!).  Caught all five on a black wooly bugger, just after dark.  All five were in the 2-1/2 to 3 pound range.  Good Time! Tim

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4.  Is there a difference between using the gym’s treadmill and running on    concrete?  Which would you recommend?  (I live in NYC, and do not wish    to train on the streets due to the traffic lights, crime, pollution,    and killer taxi cab drivers.)  Is treadmill running easier or harder    than ‘actual’ running?

Having just bought one of these beasts (Image 935), I’ve been looking into this question. According to a book I found, treadmill running requires about the same amount of energy as regular running. The major difference is that on the treadmill, you don’t have any air resistance, so treadmill running will require a little less energy, but not much. Running on a flat treadmill will be like running slightly downhill. Give it a 1-2% incline and it will be equivalent to regular running on the flat. An advantage of treadmill running (besides convenience and weather-issues) is that you can run "uphill" indefinitely without any downhill running. Also, the current state of your training is spelled out with inescapable scientific precision, especially if you use a pulse monitor. There’s an article on treadmills in last month’s Runner’s World. —

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Hi!  I am seriously thinking about ‘running’ as a work-out routine, with the NYC Marathon in ‘93 as my goal.  I would appreciate any pointers to a FAQ file (if there is any). Hit ‘n’ now to avoid my zzzzzzz questions ….. I’ve started reading Richard Benyo’s book, "Making The Marathon Your Event" (October 1992, Random House) and have a fair idea on how much commitment it would take to get to a marathon-level-of-fitness.  I was wondering if there are others who did this hard/easy/easy routine, and if there are any caveats or tips that can be shared with the newsgroup. Why a marathon?  Because it seems to demand a work-out schedule/intensity which will hopefully put me in a better shape for my current sport, skydiving.  I also find it helpful to have developmental ‘goals’ such as completing a marathon or learning a new movement in the air.  Currently, I’m about 10 pounds over ideal (distributed, as opposed to localized), and have a haphazard workout schedule/program composed of stair climbing, rowing, and light-and-slow Nautilus.  Hopefully, this *will* change by next week! Additional questions: 1.  Do any marathoners have a 3-times-a-week program for running (as opposed     to Benyo’s 5-times-a-week schedule? 2.  Any asthmatics out there who can offer me ‘tips’ on avoiding and/or     recognizing such problems while running? 3.  Anyone in netland have {+/-} comments about (a) Guarana; (b) Yohimbe     bark extract as energy boosters/supplements to running? 4.  Is there a difference between using the gym’s treadmill and running on     concrete?  Which would you recommend?  (I live in NYC, and do not wish     to train on the streets due to the traffic lights, crime, pollution,     and killer taxi cab drivers.)  Is treadmill running easier or harder     than ‘actual’ running? 5.  Should I just give up my initial goal of doing the NYC marathon in     six hours, and take up fly-fishing on the Husdon river instead ? Thanks in advance!  Hopefully, your answers will be posted to rec.running so ‘lurkers’ can benefit from your advice, too! Weird comment:  When you’re running on a treadmill in one of those gyms and a person starts out on the treadmill next to you, does it irritate you (as much as me) if that person just came from a smoking break, and decided to share his/her odor while doing a lo-ong and slo-ow treadmill walk?  What would you do, if this happens to you? Live long and prosper, Vannevar P.S.  Happy Holidays to All! — * #include<std_disclaimer.h    /* Life is short, and then you bounce. */ * * SnailMail: 50 West 34th St. # 19-B8, New York, NY  10001-3091           *

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