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P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Well, they say hope springs eternal. Just curious; when you go to the reference library do you ask them to keep all the red books covered? Wolfgang who can help….honestly….but declines, thank you.
Wolfie, you didn’t think she was REALLY going to skate by with that, did you? Get Ready!!! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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Joe, I have a GREAT idea!! Come on down and pick up Lenny Young on the way. We’ll head over to the Vally and fish our way up north toward Maryland. At the end of the day we’ll lay over in Berkley Springs WVa. Just south of town on 522 (north bound side of the road) is Bambi’s Massage. The three of us will pile up in there, drink some Scotch, smoke some cigars, and have ol’e Bambi give us a nice relaxing rub- down. In the meantime, we’ll give Monica a $10 gift certificate to Potomac Mills Outlet Mall, it’s the least we can do since she is footing the bill for our "fishing" trip! We’ll be back Sunday evening, fished out and totally relaxed! Whadda’ya say guys!!
Sounds pretty good, but you may have tipped our hand by mentioning Bambi’s. No doubt you just happened to notice that place on the way to church. 
Why Monica, we’d NEVER take Lenny there, honest. (Do you think she bought that?) Joe F.
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Dang Wayne, I might try that place myself. (Now where can I leave the kids? Say, how may bedrooms ya got? <g) Joe F.
Joe, we’ll drop your kids at my place. We’ll stock the fridge with pizza and Coke. We have cable and a VCR. The gutters need cleaning, the garden needs weeding, and the grass needs mowing. Meadow Lane Lodge would be a great weekend getaway. You bring the Special Edition Wild Turkey and I’ll bring the Macallan. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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Joe, I have a GREAT idea!! Come on down and pick up Lenny Young on the way. We’ll head over to the Vally and fish our way up north toward Maryland. At the end of the day we’ll lay over in Berkley Springs WVa. Just south of town on 522 (north bound side of the road) is Bambi’s Massage. The three of us will pile up in there, drink some Scotch, smoke some cigars, and have ol’e Bambi give us a nice relaxing rub- down. In the meantime, we’ll give Monica a $10 gift certificate to Potomac Mills Outlet Mall, it’s the least we can do since she is footing the bill for our "fishing" trip! We’ll be back Sunday evening, fished out and totally relaxed! Whadda’ya say guys!! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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Again, what is a getaway to you (or anyone besides the man in question) is not relevant.
Actually, I thought that was precisely the question: "I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions?" I hadn’t meant to whiz in anyone’s Wheaties; just trying to be helpful. Sorry if I offended. I don’t mean this snidely, but I’d be damned if someone is going to tell me how or where to teach my kids, and I extend the same courtesy to others. I do agree, however, that for most, it could be an issue.
I understand your point; and perhaps a weekend teaching his kids to flyfish would be the ideal fly fishing weekend getaway for him. It would be a fine weekend activity for me as well, just not a "getaway". PS: Try setting your length to 80 characters. I don’t how to do it in OE 5.0, but I’m sure you can.
It’s set to wrap outgoing messages at 76 characters. Why? Joe F.
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In article Now, Now, gentlemen.(ladies?)…. I justed wanted some
suggestions. Hey! Watch your language! There are no gentlemen here! It’s virtually impossible to ask for suggestions here without an argument starting. Don’t take it personally – it’s entertainment for some of us. Looks like you have several suggestions to consider in any case * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Again, what is a getaway to you (or anyone besides the man in question) is not relevant. Actually, I thought that was precisely the question: "I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions?" I hadn’t meant to whiz in anyone’s Wheaties; just trying to be helpful. Sorry if I offended.
No offense taken, and I hope the same, but I guess it hit me strangely for some reason. I still believe if a kid is old enough to show genuine interest, they are old enough to start to learn, but JMO. I don’t mean this snidely, but I’d be damned if someone is going to tell me how or where to teach my kids, and I extend the same courtesy to others. I do agree, however, that for most, it could be an issue. I understand your point; and perhaps a weekend teaching his kids to flyfish would be the ideal fly fishing weekend getaway for him. It would be a fine weekend activity for me as well, just not a "getaway". PS: Try setting your length to 80 characters. I don’t how to do it in OE 5.0, but I’m sure you can. It’s set to wrap outgoing messages at 76 characters. Why?
Well, it originally had to do with early terminals (and tins can and string…hey, you old farts, chime on in…<G), but now most people use things that can easily handle at least 80 characters, and I’ve found it seems to be the optimum setting as I never get that annoying "wrap" of a word or two. I’ve seen varying recommendations, so YMMV. Joe F.
TC, R
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Now, Now, gentlemen.(ladies?)…. I justed wanted some suggestions. Please don’t misunderstand me, I Want him to getaway!!! I really don’t want to go. I would rather send him and a friend. He would rather take a family trip. I’m looking for something that would allow the kids and I to do something entertaining while he does his thing and that’s if he prefers to have us along. I’m sorry, but I hate fishing. But I like to bike ride, walk, swim, and hike. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
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P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting.
Well, they say hope springs eternal. Just curious; when you go to the reference library do you ask them to keep all the red books covered? Wolfgang who can help….honestly….but declines, thank you.
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When I "get away" I enjoy taking my family. I don’t get away from them. I get away from my job, the city, and all of the stuff I have to do every day. When I get away I love to take my family because I love my family. Jeff, is it hard to think that some men want to be with their family? — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders" quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now, Now, gentlemen.(ladies?)…. I justed wanted some suggestions. Please don’t misunderstand me, I Want him to getaway!!! I really don’t want to go. I would rather send him and a friend. He would rather take a family trip. I’m looking for something that would allow the kids and I to do something entertaining while he does his thing and that’s if he prefers to have us along. I’m sorry, but I hate fishing. But I like to bike ride, walk, swim, and hike. message My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
Sounds like you have a good man. It also sounds as though you are a loving wife. It’s nice to see a family like this. :-) — Vern My ROFF page: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/ResortRd/v_deloy/ROFFintro.html "Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders" quote by Edward Abbey Before you buy.
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Now, Now, gentlemen.(ladies?)…. I justed wanted some suggestions. Please don’t misunderstand me, I Want him to getaway!!! I really don’t want to go. I would rather send him and a friend. He would rather take a family trip. I’m looking for something that would allow the kids and I to do something entertaining while he does his thing and that’s if he prefers to have us along. I’m sorry, but I hate fishing. But I like to bike ride, walk, swim, and hike.
Why be sorry? That’s why there is chocolate and vanilla. It sounded like Wayne Hart provided an excellent suggestion, and I’m sure your situation is not unique, so I’m sure you’ll find a happy blend if you decide (or forced…<G) to go. For what it’s worth, fly fishing is generally done in some rather nice locations, and maybe you can tag along. Also, for what it’s worth, if this is his first time with a fly rod, it is likely that neither of you will have a lot of fish to deal with…<G. Further, my SO hated fishing until she tried it, so if you’ve never tried it, you never know…of course, I’ve never tried a fertilizer malt, so I don’t know if I’d like ‘em. However, I do know I’m not going to find out. As to the thread, I doubt asking for the time here would get a simple answer, what with time zones, philosophy, analog v. digital, automatic, self-winding, and quartz, etc. In other words, don’t sweat it, and in fact, it is what makes ROFF, well, ROFF. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
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My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need.
I’ve given this some deep and honest thought, and I think you need to reconsider. If it is to be a true "getaway", then he should be able to get away. I’m sure you love him and he loves you; but no offense, "getaway" means away from you and the kids. Otherwise, he’s not getting away, he’s just taking it with him somewhere else. Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air. Secondly, if your husband will be learning this for the first time, his stress level will be greatly reduced if he isn’t worrying about where else he should be or what else he should be doing or where are the kids. Just cut him loose for the weekend and don’t expect to see him until Sunday night. He’ll love it. Trust me. Alternatively (and this is a good idea too), stash the kids, go with him, and learn fly fishing yourself. You may love it and you may be a natural; there’s nothing inherently macho about it. It’s graceful, it’s beautiful, it’s relaxing. Giving your husband a good fishing "buddy" would be a great gift. Sorry, but I don’t see the kids fitting into this at their age. If he really wants to fly fish, great; but if it’s just a "load the Evian into the Lexus and head over to the Orvis store because it’s kind of cool and Robert Redford made a movie about it" kind of thing; I’d say just go to Great Adventure. It’ll cost less and everybody will have more fun. One last suggestion (I’m on a roll.) Does it have to be fly fishing? You’re quite close to the Chesapeake, and it’s possible (depending on your budget) to charter a boat for a day of fishing on the Bay (out of Annapolis or Kent Island). Everybody could go, you’ll probably have fun and catch a lot of fish, and you won’t need to buy anything new. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting.
That would certainly be a first. Good luck, Joe F.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air. Um, no. As I’m sure you’ll soon discover, a 5 Y.O. can fish, although he might not have an interest. A 3 YO is admittedly a little young, but if so disposed, he can watch and enjoy. Of course, this depends on the boys, but as a blanket statement, you are flat wrong. As to flying hooks, jeez, they are not machettes, and, likely, ya gonna get hooked sooner or later, anyway. It may be possible to teach a 5-yr.-old boy to fly fish; but if you try, it will be far from a "fly fishing getaway" for you, which I presumed was the point of the gift. Joe F.
Again, what is a getaway to you (or anyone besides the man in question) is not relevant. I don’t mean this snidely, but I’d be damned if someone is going to tell me how or where to teach my kids, and I extend the same courtesy to others. I do agree, however, that for most, it could be an issue. As to age, I would offer it could be easier to teach an interested 5 yo (boy or girl) as they don’t have learned habits, theories, and likely, haven’t read every word Lefty Kreh has written. They just want to learn to do it. TC, R PS: Try setting your length to 80 characters. I don’t how to do it in OE 5.0, but I’m sure you can. HTH? R
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Monica, try Meadow Lane Lodge in Warm Springs VA. Nice country Inn with 2 miles of private Jackson River trout water. Beautiful place, kid friendly, stuff to do at the Inn and surroundings. Makes a romantic getaway if you have a baby-sitter. Check out the URL http://www.meadowlanelodge.com/
Dang Wayne, I might try that place myself. (Now where can I leave the kids? Say, how may bedrooms ya got? <g) Joe F.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. I’ve given this some deep and honest thought, and I think you need to reconsider. If it is to be a true "getaway", then he should be able to get away. I’m sure you love him and he loves you; but no offense, "getaway" means away from you and the kids. Otherwise, he’s not getting away, he’s just taking it with him somewhere else. Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air.
Um, no. As I’m sure you’ll soon discover, a 5 Y.O. can fish, although he might not have an interest. A 3 YO is admittedly a little young, but if so disposed, he can watch and enjoy. Of course, this depends on the boys, but as a blanket statement, you are flat wrong. As to flying hooks, jeez, they are not machettes, and, likely, ya gonna get hooked sooner or later, anyway. Secondly, if your husband will be learning this for the first time, his stress level will be greatly reduced if he isn’t worrying about where else he should be or what else he should be doing or where are the kids. Just cut him loose for the weekend and don’t expect to see him until Sunday night. He’ll love it. Trust me.
Well, now here you _may_ have something here, but you sure are making a lot of decisions for someone else. Do you know these people? If so, why are you posting instead of just calling and chatting about it. As I don’t know him, I won’t presume he doesn’t enjoy learning _with_ his family. I, for one, actually like doing such things with kids. They aren’t jaded, and they don’t presume a whole lot…plus, they leave my Scotch the hell alone, never need to bum tobacco products, and are useful for errands. Alternatively (and this is a good idea too), stash the kids, go with him, and learn fly fishing yourself. You may love it and you may be a natural; there’s nothing inherently macho about it. It’s graceful, it’s beautiful, it’s relaxing. Giving your husband a good fishing "buddy" would be a great gift. Sorry, but I don’t see the kids fitting into this at their age. If he really wants to fly fish, great; but if it’s just a "load the Evian into the Lexus and head over to the Orvis store because it’s kind of cool and Robert Redford made a movie about it" kind of thing; I’d say just go to Great Adventure. It’ll cost less and everybody will have more fun.
I’ll just let this stand (or rather, wobble) on its own… One last suggestion (I’m on a roll.) Does it have to be fly fishing? You’re quite close to the Chesapeake, and it’s possible (depending on your budget) to charter a boat for a day of fishing on the Bay (out of Annapolis or Kent Island). Everybody could go, you’ll probably have fun and catch a lot of fish, and you won’t need to buy anything new.
Hey, so am I…when you’re finsihed wizzing in this lady’s Wheaties, why not just plan the trip, send them a schedule and timetable (and your credit card), and be done with it. As to the original post, Monica: I don’t presume to know you, your husband, or boys, and Joe’s point regarding your husband learning, etc., is valid. As to the safety of the boys, there is normally no danger associated with fly fishing common sense won’t handle. (Bears Au Poivre, Cottonmouthed Water Rattlers with Uzis, Molotov UPS trucks, and half-dressed, fully hung over ROFFians excluded). If he doesn’t reply, send an is generally helpful without being a jerk, unlike much of the rest of us… HTH? TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. That would certainly be a first. Good luck, Joe F.
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote… There are prodigies in everything I suppose, but I wouldn’t try to teach flyfishing to any child under the age of 10 or 11. I’m inclined to agree with Ken. My almost-three year old loves to try to cast a fly rod on the front lawn, generally making a rat’s nest out of the line–but despite her apparent interest it’s going to be several years until I’d feel safe putting a hook on. –Steve
Steve, If it matters, my mother did the same thing, and was a (unaged) casting champion by 13 or 14. She, and then I started with a little 6 footer and a 1494 Medalist about 4 or 5, and at least a dozen other similarly-aged kids did the same with the same rod – we still have it. I don’t know your daughter, but I’ve seen 40 year-olds do worse than your description of her, and give up in a temper tantrum. May I suggest tying her some bright whiffs (so she can track them), setting a hula hoop out and letting her go as she will, instructing if you see any bad habits forming? If you need a few bright tips and hair, I’ll be happy to drop some in the mail. HTH? TC, R
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote… There are prodigies in everything I suppose, but I wouldn’t try to teach flyfishing to any child under the age of 10 or 11.
I’m inclined to agree with Ken. My almost-three year old loves to try to cast a fly rod on the front lawn, generally making a rat’s nest out of the line–but despite her apparent interest it’s going to be several years until I’d feel safe putting a hook on. –Steve
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Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air. Um, no. As I’m sure you’ll soon discover, a 5 Y.O. can fish, although he might not have an interest. A 3 YO is admittedly a little young, but if so disposed, he can watch and enjoy. Of course, this depends on the boys, but as a blanket statement, you are flat wrong. As to flying hooks, jeez, they are not machettes, and, likely, ya gonna get hooked sooner or later, anyway.
It may be possible to teach a 5-yr.-old boy to fly fish; but if you try, it will be far from a "fly fishing getaway" for you, which I presumed was the point of the gift. Joe F.
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I learned to fly fish when I was 4. I received my first rod when I was 5. Perhaps 3 is a bit too young, but 5 certainly is not.
There are prodigies in everything I suppose, but I wouldn’t try to teach flyfishing to any child under the age of 10 or 11. — Ken Fortenberry
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Joe: The next time my wife is looking for ideas for my birthday can I have her contact you for suggestions? –Stan I’ve given this some deep and honest thought, and I think you need to reconsider. If it is to be a true "getaway", then he should be able to get away. I’m sure you love him and he loves you; but no offense, "getaway" means away from you and the kids. Otherwise, he’s not getting away, he’s just taking it with him somewhere else.
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Firstly, the 3 and 5 year old can’t fly fish and shouldn’t be anywhere near where sharp hooks are flying through the air.
I learned to fly fish when I was 4. I received my first rod when I was 5. Perhaps 3 is a bit too young, but 5 certainly is not.
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My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? …
http://www.coldspringanglers.com/guides.html — Ken Fortenberry
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My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My husband loves to fish and recently mentioned about a friend who received a gift to go fly fishing for the weekend. As father day is coming (and he is such a good father), I would like to give him a gift of a fly fishing weekend getaway. Anyone have any suggestions? We live in the Washington DC area and don’t want to travel to far (maybe to PA). He may want the whole family to go, so it must be a kid friendly place. (two boys 3 and 5). Also, I don’t know the first thing about fly fishing (or fishing period) and have no idea what equipment he would need. P.S. after reading some of the postings, I hope that only those that can honestly help me reply to this posting. Peace Monica
Monica, try Meadow Lane Lodge in Warm Springs VA. Nice country Inn with 2 miles of private Jackson River trout water. Beautiful place, kid friendly, stuff to do at the Inn and surroundings. Makes a romantic getaway if you have a baby-sitter. Check out the URL http://www.meadowlanelodge.com/ For a "further afield" fly-fishing only place try West Branch Anglers along the PA-NY border on the West Branch of the Deleware. Not very kid-friendly but has a great restaurant and the drift boat trips are great fishing if you catch the water levels right. I think we have a poster here who guides in the area. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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Why thank you kindly gents.
(another sonnet snipped) Mike: you’re most welcome. Your literary skills are most welcome here, and always appreciated. Mark Faulkner
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A talent like Mike’s should not go unpunished, I suggest we all raise our glasses of Old Grouse in a toast to him. — Ernie Harrison
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A talent like Mike’s should not go unpunished, I suggest we all raise our glasses of Old Grouse in a toast to him. — Ernie Harrison
my apologies but I drink Grant’s. I’ll hoist one for Mike tonight. Not hard to persuade me eh? Ralph H "I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams." – Hamlet
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A talent like Mike’s should not go unpunished, I suggest we all raise our glasses of Old Grouse in a toast to him.
He is so good in fact that I was thinking that he’s like an ‘online poetry synthesis machine’. ….I was wondering if he could not charge people to make poetry out of whatever they like. …he could have an interactive web site. "RhymeTime" …and since people could log in and get instant prose it could be. "Real-Time RhymeTime" You go Mike. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A talent like Mike’s should not go unpunished, I suggest we all raise our glasses of Old Grouse in a toast to him. He is so good in fact that I was thinking that he’s like an ‘online poetry synthesis machine’. ….I was wondering if he could not charge people to make poetry out of whatever they like. …he could have an interactive web site. "RhymeTime" …and since people could log in and get instant prose it could be. "Real-Time RhymeTime" You go Mike. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
I agree Timbo…..in fact, as I offer my salud later today, I’ll know that we are very lucky to have Mike here at ROFF and be blessed with his style and wit. –Wataugan "is it 4pm yet?" Walt
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Why thank you kindly gents. Glad you find the rhymes pleasing, or even perhaps a bit teasing, I hope they amuse, and are not too abstruse, and keep you constantly wheezing ! I raise my glass here too, it couldnt be done without you, for a rhyme or two, you give me the cue, and sometimes even a few ! So here is my return toast, to the stalwart ROFFIAN host, cheers ! Good health, long life and wealth, to you all, but the drinkers the most ! Tight lines ! Mike Connor
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(timbo’s post snipped) I agree Timbo…..in fact, as I offer my salud later today, I’ll know that we are very lucky to have Mike here at ROFF and be blessed with his style and wit. –Wataugan "is it 4pm yet?" Walt
as a matter of fact, i think he’s so *damn* good that i intend to toast him at least five or six times before 10 pm. by 8:15 he will be runnin line for line with robert frost. and saturday night, he’ll be neck and neck with w. shakespeare hissownself! wayno, always willing to recognize talent – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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I agree Timbo…..in fact, as I offer my salud later today, I’ll know that we are very lucky to have Mike here at ROFF and be blessed with his style and wit.
(ahem) 5pm! It’s time to reboot, Scrolling away, ROFF’s always a hoot! Tho’ when I click onto Connor, It’s always an honor, That everything else said is moot. Tony Ritter www.gonefishing-gs.com
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A couple of generations advance over the old ‘bot eh? Ralph H
Very good Ralph. –Wataugan "love a good touche" Walt
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A talent like Mike’s should not go unpunished, I suggest we all raise our glasses of Old Grouse in a toast to him. He is so good in fact that I was thinking that he’s like an ‘online poetry synthesis machine’.
A couple of generations advance over the old ‘bot eh? Ralph H "I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams." – Hamlet
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_______ Can’t begin to tell you how much more I like that fly fishing handle of "T-Bone" much better?! There is no other name that explains you better. Salt of the earth. Western Bone Bred, and bad ass on the stream.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yeah HF, I remember you telling me that a week or two ago… I figure either you’re a Gen-U-Wine masochist or you REALLY like to drive. Wait a minute, you’re hosting the dangdest convention of nitwits and yahoos since the 1979 Star Trek convention… OK, so you’re a masochist. But for me: 1. I HATE to drive. For 14 years I averaged 50-70k per year on the job. Don’t wanna do long drives unless I have to. I even make my wife drive when we go somewhere together in town. 2. I LIKE to fly. Hey, I’m fishing around for some sky time here! 3. When YOU drove it, there was probably no posted speed limit, and your biggest traffic concern was getting the horses out of the way of your ‘32 Coupe, since you were going close to 100! Ah, the joys of a misspent youth… Mike
It was a 35 Ford Coupe. And it wasn’t far from 100, but on the high side! Actually, it got a lot easier since Kentucky finished the Interstate. Our oldest daughter was a Professor at the University of Georgia at Athens for a while, and we made the trip several times recently. I just can’t talk my wife into making those trips in the airplane. She keeps insisting that it would be fine, but she has to be BACK on time! HF
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I just can’t talk my wife into making those trips in the airplane. She keeps insisting that it would be fine, but she has to be BACK on time!
I suppose suggesting you borrow, rent or buy a Mooney is out of the question! Warren
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I just can’t talk my wife into making those trips in the airplane. She keeps insisting that it would be fine, but she has to be BACK on time! I suppose suggesting you borrow, rent or buy a Mooney is out of the question! Warren
It doesn’t have anything to do with the particular airplane. She can drive, but I am the only pilot! Need I say more … HF
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Mike, Mike, Mike, You’ll have to do better than that. 1. I HATE to drive. For 14 years I averaged 50-70k per year on the job. Don’t wanna do long drives unless I have to. I even make my wife drive when we go somewhere together in town.
So, bring her along. And let her drive. Tell her it shows her just how much you trust her. My family came last year and plans to come this year. Go to sleep as soon as you hit interstate and when you wake up, you’ll be there. "0" minutes travel time. 2. I LIKE to fly. Hey, I’m fishing around for some sky time here!
When you get there, you’ll fly. Guaranteed. 3. When YOU drove it, there was probably no posted speed limit, and your biggest traffic concern was getting the horses out of the way of your ‘32 Coupe, since you were going close to 100! Ah, the joys of a misspent youth…
Possibly. But the speed limit now is at least 70 and most likely 75 so there’s not that much difference. Besides, you’ll be asleep and the wife’s driving so what do you care? :-) Next incredibly lame argument? John Stricker — why I had to put it in. If one of you real humans wants to contact me: "I didn’t spend all these years getting to the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian"
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Yeah HF, I remember you telling me that a week or two ago… I figure either you’re a Gen-U-Wine masochist or you REALLY like to drive. Wait a minute, you’re hosting the dangdest convention of nitwits and yahoos since the 1979 Star Trek convention… OK, so you’re a masochist. But for me: 1. I HATE to drive. For 14 years I averaged 50-70k per year on the job. Don’t wanna do long drives unless I have to. I even make my wife drive when we go somewhere together in town. 2. I LIKE to fly. Hey, I’m fishing around for some sky time here! 3. When YOU drove it, there was probably no posted speed limit, and your biggest traffic concern was getting the horses out of the way of your ‘32 Coupe, since you were going close to 100! Ah, the joys of a misspent youth… Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since it’s too far to drive for a 3 day weekend, and since I’m too poor to own/rent/fly myself (not to mention I’m only a wannabe pilot so far)(oh-oh, did I mention the unmentionable?), my choices for P’ville ‘99 are to hitchhike, fly the "big iron" (I’m checking prices this weekend), or my preferred means of travel would be to catch a ride and share expenses with someone who’ll be passing through the Atlanta area on their way there… Soooo…… Too far to drive for a three day weekend! I used to commute to Atlanta from Pinckneyville. HF
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Since it’s too far to drive for a 3 day weekend, and since I’m too poor to own/rent/fly myself (not to mention I’m only a wannabe pilot so far)(oh-oh, did I mention the unmentionable?), my choices for P’ville ‘99 are to hitchhike, fly the "big iron" (I’m checking prices this weekend), or my preferred means of travel would be to catch a ride and share expenses with someone who’ll be passing through the Atlanta area on their way there… Soooo……
Too far to drive for a three day weekend! I used to commute to Atlanta from Pinckneyville. HF
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Since it’s too far to drive for a 3 day weekend, and since I’m too poor to own/rent/fly myself (not to mention I’m only a wannabe pilot so far)(oh-oh, did I mention the unmentionable?), my choices for P’ville ‘99 are to hitchhike, fly the "big iron" (I’m checking prices this weekend), or my preferred means of travel would be to catch a ride and share expenses with someone who’ll be passing through the Atlanta area on their way there… Soooo…… Is anyone in this forum planning to make the pilgrimage, have need of a seat polisher, beer holder and extra wallet, AND willing to stop and pick up a hitchhiker somewhere around Atlanta? Mike "I make long run-on sentences so I can save all the periods to use at the end…" Patterson PS maybe you better check out my web page first, especially if you’ns be a Dimocrat. OTOH, that could make it MORE fun, eh? Mike Patterson – Deacon Blues AMA #598863 EAA #523920 NRA #BVS2395T ICQ #7161589 < http://www.mindspring.com/~mikepatterson "Sharing the things I know and love with those of my kind…" Humans please ignore the following- More SPAM bait: http://barnstormers.dyn.ml.org/email.html
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Cut the crap Mike… You Southern boys are always "poor mouthing" your lot in life. Checking your website, your about to sell a house? $116, 000 should get you a round trip ticket to anyplace of your choosing, unless you drop by the casinos here in Kansas City ! Not owning a plane, certainly provides you with even more disposable income than us owner types. Checking with Expedia/Flight Wizard, a commercial round trip flight can be had for as little as $236.00 RIGHT NOW. See… http://expedia.msn.com/daily/home/default.hts So, book it and rest easy. If your good with a wrench, book one way and maybe HF will keep you busy attending to the needs of the "Red Lady". He has plenty of "cot space’ for the homeless. Just bring your own cot. High Flyer IS touchy about snoozing on his. Don’t ask how I know. <g Bob – already signed up for P’ville 99 – U. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Since it’s too far to drive for a 3 day weekend, and since I’m too poor to own/rent/fly myself (not to mention I’m only a wannabe pilot so far)(oh-oh, did I mention the unmentionable?), my choices for P’ville ‘99 are to hitchhike, fly the "big iron" (I’m checking prices this weekend), or my preferred means of travel would be to catch a ride and share expenses with someone who’ll be passing through the Atlanta area on their way there… Mike Patterson
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Just getting back into flyfishing after a 15 year hiatus (sorry, puberty, girls, and college distracted me) and am having some major problems with fly placement. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice? 1) I am fairly proficient at casting a light fly (dries, nymphs, wets), but when attempting to cast a heavier fly such as a weighted stone fly imitation, or a muddler I cannot get complete extension of the line on my back or forward cast. Instead the fly and leader sort of flop around on the end of the line with no real sense of direction. I use a fairly short 4 piece Orvis backpacking rod probably 6 1/2 -7 feet in length. Could that be part of the problem? 2) I often develop small knots in my leader 2-4 inches behind the fly when casting. What am I doing wrong? Should I be concerned about them? 3) Lose a lot of flies due to poor knots during the cast. I tie them correctly, but think I am choosing the wrong knots for the job. Any recommendations for what knots to use when attaching a fly? Thankfully I am a good tyer so this doesn’t become that expensive. 4) Is there a fly fishing FAQ that I can refer to about line weights, types, and uses or rod types. I own a very nice rod, but it was given to me by my grandfather so I do not know anything about it. How do I find out about its action, weight, what type of line to use with it, etc? Thanks in advance Tom Rhindress Williamstown, MA
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Just getting back into flyfishing after a 15 year hiatus (sorry,
puberty, girls, and college distracted me) and am having some major problems with fly placement. I was wondering if anyone could give me
some advice? 1) I am fairly proficient at casting a light fly (dries, nymphs, wets), but when attempting to cast a heavier fly such as a weighted stone fly imitation, or a muddler I cannot get complete extension of the line on my back or forward cast. Instead the fly and leader sort of flop around on the end of the line
with no real sense of direction. I use a fairly short 4 piece Orvis backpacking rod probably 6 1/2 -7
feet in length. Could that be part of the problem? 2) I often develop small knots in my leader 2-4 inches behind the fly when casting. What am I doing wrong? Should I be concerned about them? 3) Lose a lot of flies due to poor knots during the cast. I tie them correctly, but think I am choosing the wrong knots for the job. Anyrecommendations for what knots to use when attaching a fly? Thankfully I am a good tyer so this doesn’t become that expensive. 4) Is there a fly fishing FAQ that I can refer to about line weights,
types, and uses or rod types. I own a very nice rod, but it was given to me by my grandfather so I do
not know anything about it. How do I find out about its action, weight, what type of line to use
with it, etc? Tom, likely both your back cast and your forward cast lack power because of two things…. one is you use entirely too much wrist…. tie a hanky around your wrist and the rod butt to remind you to use more forearm and less wrist… second you are making all your power stroke too evenly applied over the cast…. most all of the power should be applied at the very end of the stroke with a very staccato speed up and stop… do not turn the line over until the very end…. A 3rd idea is to apply a short sharp haul with the line hand exactly at the time of the power application….. then a 4th cheating trick is to give the line a short tug exactly as the fly lands…. good luck… Alan E. Hoover Anglers’ Rest Powhatan, Va *the trout teach many, lessons*
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just getting back into flyfishing after a 15 year hiatus (sorry, puberty, girls, and college distracted me) and am having some major problems with fly placement. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice? 1) I am fairly proficient at casting a light fly (dries, nymphs, wets), but when attempting to cast a heavier fly such as a weighted stone fly imitation, or a muddler I cannot get complete extension of the line on my back or forward cast. Instead the fly and leader sort of flop around on the end of the line with no real sense of direction. I use a fairly short 4 piece Orvis backpacking rod probably 6 1/2 -7 feet in length. Could that be part of the problem?
Definitely: any fly over a gramme or two completely upsets classical fly dynamics. Casting style needs to be different and a long rod helps. 2) I often develop small knots in my leader 2-4 inches behind the fly when casting. What am I doing wrong? Should I be concerned about them?
Wind knots should be avoided because they weaken the tippet and will lose you fish. Poor casting technique is the commonest cause. Try making your forward and backcast strokes a few degrees apart in the vertical plane (see instructional books by Lefty Kreh or Lee Wulff.) 3) Lose a lot of flies due to poor knots during the cast. I tie them correctly, but think I am choosing the wrong knots for the job. Any recommendations for what knots to use when attaching a fly? Thankfully I am a good tyer so this doesn’t become that expensive.
Can’t beat the classic turle knot (double turle for salmon.) 4) Is there a fly fishing FAQ that I can refer to about line weights, types, and uses or rod types.
No, but plenty in the library. I own a very nice rod, but it was given to me by my grandfather so I do not know anything about it.
If this is a cane rod, several URLs for either rod maintenance or used cane rod sales may be helpful. Or you can post here any markings, brand name etc. Try http://www.gorp.com/bamboo.html or http://www.cybercom.net/~bconner/rod.html — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
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