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My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? — Stay connected, Carl D. Sgro

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My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river?

Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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Wayne: Me and a new buddy are heading up to the Norfork or White this Saturday for a daytrip.  Want to meet up with us Saturday morning? Memphis Jim (Inventor of the Impromptu Ozark Clave)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river?

Norfork River Resort in Salesville, AR. Very nice, new cabins. Actually on the Norfork River, a tributary of the White, approximately 1 mile from the confluence. http://www.arkansas.com/attractions/attr_detail/r/Ozarks/id/90359/lr/…

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Man I would love to but my daughter’s last fall soccer game is this saturday. I dont think it would be cool for me (also the head coach) to skip the game. Then right after it’s over I have to go to mother-in-laws birthday dinner . . . . so saturday’s booked . . . . Maybe we can hook up another time . . . -wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wayne: Me and a new buddy are heading up to the Norfork or White this Saturday for a daytrip.  Want to meet up with us Saturday morning? Memphis Jim (Inventor of the Impromptu Ozark Clave) Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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Excuses excuses. How can you become a flyfishing hermit when you are attentive to the needs of your loved ones? Memphis Jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Man I would love to but my daughter’s last fall soccer game is this saturday. I dont think it would be cool for me (also the head coach) to skip the game. Then right after it’s over I have to go to mother-in-laws birthday dinner . . . . so saturday’s booked . . . . Maybe we can hook up another time . . . -wayne Wayne: Me and a new buddy are heading up to the Norfork or White this Saturday for a daytrip.  Want to meet up with us Saturday morning? Memphis Jim (Inventor of the Impromptu Ozark Clave) Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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I understand . . . LOL  . . . It looks like the first Sat I will be able to get away is going to be the 23rd.  . . . . wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Excuses excuses. How can you become a flyfishing hermit when you are attentive to the needs of your loved ones? Memphis Jim Man I would love to but my daughter’s last fall soccer game is this saturday. I dont think it would be cool for me (also the head coach) to skip the game. Then right after it’s over I have to go to mother-in-laws birthday dinner . . . . so saturday’s booked . . . . Maybe we can hook up another time . . . -wayne Wayne: Me and a new buddy are heading up to the Norfork or White this Saturday  for a daytrip.  Want to meet up with us Saturday morning? Memphis Jim (Inventor of the Impromptu Ozark Clave) Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice  cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can  someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on  the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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Check out http://www.mtnhome.net/brf/ Dale Fulton owns a fine fly shop in Mountain Home, AR, has access to guides, and has cabins on the river.  Also see http://www.mtnhome.net/fultons/ I have no direct relationship with Dale, other than I’ve shopped there, stayed in his lodge, and generally endorse him as a fine guy. Best, John. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? — Stay connected, Carl D. Sgro

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The fates have decreed I must go to Rockport, Texas this weekend and could have time to fish Monday and/or Tuesday.  I’m not after anything specific but am *not* equipped to fish the salt.  Hell, bluegills will be just fine…..any suggestions?  No boat this trip. Frank Church

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Frank, Since I don’t see much advice – I can offer my 2cents – the area you’ll be in is a tough one to come up with "non salt" unless you want to drive a long distance. If your interested I’ll post a map of the area and a few suggestions on possible light saltwater flyfishing. Gary

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The fates have decreed I must go to Rockport, Texas this weekend and could have time to fish Monday and/or Tuesday.  I’m not after anything specific but am *not* equipped to fish the salt.  Hell, bluegills will be just fine…..any suggestions?  No boat this trip. Frank Church

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Thanks Gary, but that being the case I’ll just drop my load and hustle on home. I’ll work on my dispatcher to get me a run to Florida instead. Frank Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frank, Since I don’t see much advice – I can offer my 2cents – the area you’ll be in is a tough one to come up with "non salt" unless you want to drive a long distance. If your interested I’ll post a map of the area and a few suggestions on possible light saltwater flyfishing. Gary The fates have decreed I must go to Rockport, Texas this weekend and could have time to fish Monday and/or Tuesday.  I’m not after anything specific but am *not* equipped to fish the salt.  Hell, bluegills will be just fine…..any suggestions?  No boat this trip. Frank Church

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I went to the library a couple of hours ago and checked out a book about the sense of smell, simply because it caught my eye.  While reading it at dinner a while ago I was reminded of the second thing I noticed on arriving at Jay’s cabin in the UP; the delicious and unique aroma of the north woods.  Every place has its own smell (libraries are another favorite, or rather, class of favorites…they’re all different) and this one, in the spring, combines rich undertones of damp earth, crisp aromatic conifers dominated by balsam fir, pungent aspens, and a host of lesser elements.  Every time it hits me I am immediately transported back to innumerable other visits for fishing, hunting, wood cutting, and sitting on the porch, which brings me to the first thing I noticed and which cut short my reverie, for there on the porch was the supine form of one medium sized Asadi.  It was either dead or asleep.  A few light kicks at the chair confirmed that it was the latter. After a few moments of hale fellow well mets I bundled the poor boy, much bedraggled from a long journey a hot sauna and wrasslin with some barley pop, off to see Agate Falls.  Agate is one of the more spectacular falls in the UP, which is littered with the things, and would later prove to be the last place we fished on this trip. When we got back to the neighborhood of the shack we stopped to visit Jay’s brother Bret, who lives in a trailer just a couple hundred yards down the road.  Bret is a journeyman electrician, which would allow him to live virtually anywhere he pleases.  He is also a VERY avid hunter and fisher.  That he chooses to live in such a place is indicative of what it has to offer to the outdoor enthusiast.  As we chatted (Asadi tried to buy Bret’s hat from his five year old daughter but she was too cagey for him), Jay drove up.  A few minutes later we all arrived at the shack to find Mr. Petah Charles there.  The evening was devoted to making plans for departure the next morning, sorting through gear, eating, and pouring offerings to the fish gods and the great god Ethanol.  Asadi, having gotten a considerable head start on the rest of us, easily won the evenings round of libations.  We were all pleased to discover that Peter speaks pretty good English for a ferriner.   We arose tolerably early the next morning and after a few brief stops for breakfast, extra packing food, conferences, mapping, waterfall viewing, fly shop hunting (without noticeable success, I might add), and other piddling chores, we managed to hit the trail precisely at the crack of noon….or thereabouts.  Jay decided to take a rather more challenging route than the rest of us so it was up to me to deliver the requisite lecture to the newbies…….stop whenever you feel a need, drink plenty of water, ANY discomfort on feet is to be taken very seriously and attended to immediately, yada, yada, yada.  I set a moderate pace for the first half mile so as not to tax the rookies. After a ten minute break during which Peter never bothered to remove his pack, I let him take the lead, and I spent the next hour and a half sprinting to keep him in sight while John, carrying some very heavy and very non traditional backpacking food and a head that looked suspiciously larger than it used to, was left to bring up the rear.  We arrived at the mouth of the Big Carp, after a trip of 4 1/4 miles, an hour and fifty minutes after hitting the trail, and this with a couple of rest stops totaling about fifteen minutes.  Goddamn Cannuck voyageurs!   More later……gotta rest. Wolfgang

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[ominous preclavian rumblings noted and snipped] More later……gotta rest. Wolfgang

John, Peter, and Wolfgang "alone together" in the woodz? Whoa… /daytripper (Jealous – or grateful? Tough call…

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Okay gang, what would be on your ideal fly fishing web site?  And what sites come close to your ideal? Jeff

Thosands of people should reveal their honey holes, and no one should be able to access the site but me. — Those who say do not know; those who know do not say. — Lao Tsu, who must have been a fisherman. something bogus to avoid spam)

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Okay gang, what would be on your ideal fly fishing web site?  And what sites come close to your ideal? Jeff

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Okay gang, what would be on your ideal fly fishing web site?  

Tech stuff: 1. Smart technology design, made to maximize usability on different client configurations. No Frames, No Java, No Java script, No Banners, No animated gifs, No excessive graphics, No risky and non fail-gracefully code, No excessive tables, No overdoing lay-out with html – settle for structure. 2. Universal non-plattform specific readability in terms of fonts and colors. 3. Keep it simple! 99 of a hundred trying to be fancy end up looking like complete and utter imbeciles. Let your content speak for it self, don’t fuck it up with bad design decisions. 4. Do not split long pages into several small ones (common sense applies, though). 5. Make it fast and effortless for visitors to figure out the structure of your website, latest updates and contents (search-engine, what’s new-overview, site map). Do not make your site look cool for the uninterested drooling 7-year old who will visit your site once or twice. Make it functional for your frequent visitors. Read this: http://photo.net/wtr/thebook/ And check out http://www.w3.org/ as well. That is the easy part, now the hard stuff. Content guidelines: 1. Only do stuff you or your staff is knowledgeable on. 2. Do things well and complete, or don’t do them at all. You get no extra points for putting it on the web. The Internet is 20 years old and maturing every minute (ROFF excepted of course . Sucky things aren’t cool any longer just because they are on the web, they just suck. 3. Allow feedback and publicly available comments on everything (interactive). Share what you know, and let others share what they know related to your site. 4. Update regularly. Don’t suddenly take a 6 month absence without notice. Be committed, and stay that way. Content: Firstly, take a look at the major search engines, and see what sites are out there. A million or two. Find anything missing? Or a concept that could be substantially improved upon by you? 1. I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about another site set out to help newbies figure the most basic things. There are plenty of those already (I assume). 2. Neither do I pursue sites which focuses on technical fly fishing stuff, like hatches, insects, knots, rods, technique etc. Of course, an extensive site of this would be interesting, and definitively worthy of a bookmark, and be used as a reference. If the site is somewhat less then really really really great (which will require insane amounts of work), it’s not interesting to me at all. Remember, hundreds of books has been written on these subjects by very knowledgeable people. Be better, or be gone. 3. I want personal stuff. I like pictures and I enjoy stories. I want someone who is adept at writing to share his thoughts and experiences with me. I may be a weirdo, but I tremendously enjoy reading other people’s stories from fly fishing outings/trips. I want to know how they feel, what they are thinking, what happens etc, almost like a diary. Be willing to share. You can probably tell me very little about fly fishing, but you can probably tell me very much about yourself as a fly fisherman. Write a book about it, and put the chapters on your website. Offer intelligent and lengthy stuff. Screw those who gets a headache from reading more than a few minutes straight. Write it so good, that non-fly fishers will enjoy it as well. 4. Be humble, and expect nothing in return. 5. Write in Norwegian, so I can fully enjoy the subtle linguistic concept. (ok, this one is rather optional) That’s how the ideal fly fishing web site is to me. Quite easy, actually. Make one, and I’ll visit regularly, if I like your style. — Christian Figenschou – <URL: http://figen.com

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                Hi!         I am wondering if anyone has ever used the Gorilla and Sons                   Vise you see in all the fly fishing and fly tying                   magazines. I am asking if anyone has ever used this v                vise and if it has good hook holding power and how it d               does  VS. the Thompson "A" vise.  Wich one                     would you reccomend is a better beginner  vise                         THANKS!                                 Dolph                      

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The Gorilla vise is junk- mine wouldn’t even assemble. Evan

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– Thanks, Dell Killian, Code 471350D       Phone:  619-939-2372 Naval Air Warfare Center         FAX:    619-939-8293 China Lake, CA 93555-6001

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writes: I have read of good fishing on Salmon Falls Creek, which          flows into Idaho near Jackpot. Browns and rainbows on          the upper stretches. I’ve been by it numerous times, but          never fished it. Looked good though …..

Bob, Is this the stream that runs along side of the road?  It always looked to warm to hold trout, unless you are talking about bass. Ernie Harrison

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 (Bob Evans) writes: I have read of good fishing on Salmon Falls Creek, which          flows into Idaho near Jackpot. Browns and rainbows on          the upper stretches. I’ve been by it numerous times, but          never fished it. Looked good though ….. Bob, Is this the stream that runs along side of the road?  It always looked to warm to hold trout, unless you are talking about bass. Ernie Harrison

A Couple of years ago I was in Twin Falls on biz and Id Fish and Game had just dumped "excess" hatchery steelhead into Salmon Falls Crk and locals were busy.  Seemed like a rather strange recycling operation.                         Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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: Come see us–the fall fishing is great!  Jim Shepherd, NV Jim’s, : 702-753-JIMS : Jim, this seems an awful lot like an ad.   Either give us some information : rather than a teaser, or stay the hell out of our faces.  Thanks. And please…be honest.  Forty fish days with an 18" average?  I guess the Henry’s Fork reputation is overdone.  The real water is in the deserts of N. Nevada. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.

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Come see us–the fall fishing is great!  Jim Shepherd, NV Jim’s, 702-753-JIMS

Jim, this seems an awful lot like an ad.   Either give us some information rather than a teaser, or stay the hell out of our faces.  Thanks. John

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Yes, there is fishing in Northern Nevada!  How does 40 fish days with an 18 inch average sound to you? This is on Public waters.  So many travel through here to stand shoulder to shoulder on the northern Rocky waters only to have a few drift boats cross their lines when they could have a couple of miles of stream to themselves here…..   Most of the fishing is subsurface–nymphs, buggers, leaches, wooleys, etc., but there is some dry fishing, especially in the smaller high creeks and lakes. There is a wide variety of fishing from bellyboating for bass and lunker trout to wading small creeks for wild brookies or even native Lahontan Cutthroat Trout..  Come see us–the fall fishing is great!  Jim Shepherd, NV Jim’s, 702-753-JIMS

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The shad run here in the Annapolis River of Nova Scotia is now at or near its peak peak.  The annual Shad Fishing tournament was just completed and for the second year in a row, the prize for the flyfishing catagory was determined by lot – i.e no shad were caught on the fly. Does anyone have any general advice re catching those darned things on a fly?  Sure would appreciate any help re patterns, method etc. Les

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The shad run here in the Annapolis River of Nova Scotia is now at or near its peak peak.  The annual Shad Fishing tournament was just completed and for the second year in a row, the prize for the flyfishing catagory was determined by lot – i.e no shad were caught on the fly. Does anyone have any general advice re catching those darned things on a fly?  Sure would appreciate any help re patterns, method etc. Les

These shad drove me nuts on the Merrimac for years. I always fished them quartering down, expecting a hit on the drift, like most salmonid type fish. Finally started hooking them by using a Hi-D head with a weighted fly on the bottom with very slow strips. Lose a lot of flies that way, but it’s the only way I could get them to hit. They fight great, but it’s almost like bait fishing :-

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It’s possible that our western experiences in flyfishing for Shad might be of some assistance.  We usually fish them in heavy water (8,000 cfs or better), and the key is finding their depth in the particular channel you are casting to.  I usually start with a Hi-D, extra fast sink shooting head, then work up.  Shad seem to travel at very specific depths on their upstream movements, and I have found they will not move very much to look at a fly.  The casting we use is a quarter upstream, then mend to give the fly a dead drift. ANY drag on the fly, and you might as well shoot again. Some strikes are very soft, so keep your index finger lightly under the shooting line to detect.  Other strikes (usually near the end of the drift) are like freight trains.  To summarize: look for proper depth, and MEND. If you’ll E-Mail me, I’ll send you by regular mail, two patterns that work very well out here.  They are bright (flourescent yellow is good) and beady-eyed.  The common crappie fly, available anywhere, works very well.

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I live in Colorado and would like to introduce flyfishing to my son who is 9 years old.  I have been here for 6 years and have fished the S. Platte, Arkansas, Rio Grande, etc.  But I am looking for recommendations for small streams with good access, and easy fishing (preferably dry fly) for small fish. Any recommendations you might have would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ron Welborne

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Ron, I good place for this might by the exit waters of Pueblo Resovoir.  It is always open and very easy to catch fish.  There is not of lot of River to fish but it might be ideal for your situation.  Right under the dam are some good holes.  Again not alot of fishing but it should produce results and is warmer and more consistent for a nine year old.Good Luck!! Tom

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Well flyfishing with kids is not easy, but it can be done. You’ll need some large sproat hooks.  Lash the kids to the hooks with 20Lb Amnesia Stiff Monofilimant.  Duct tape their mouths, unless fishing for musky or pike.  See the article on Tarpon Leaders and tie a few of those.  You’ll need a large double handed spey rod and with any luck you should be able to chuck the little buggers 40-50 feet.   Tim Walker (Just kidding…i love children…they’re delicious…)

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Would the guy that posted about the Saltwater flyfishing trip for rockfish in the kelp beds off of Santa Cruz please followup with a valid email address?  I tried responding via email but it bounced.  I’m interested in the Livermore Flyfishers group that was mentioned. — John Fereira Pleasanton, CA

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That’s a numeral one after my name. Kent McCammon Lightwave Systems Engineer Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Just another crash dummy on the information superhighway

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Hi, I’ve been reading this group for a while, and I was wondering if anyone has info about when the steelhead run in the Russian or other Northern California rivers.  Also, any advice on flies/techniques

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Hi, I’ve been reading this group for a while, and I was wondering if anyone has info about when the steelhead run in the Russian or other Northern California rivers.  Also, any advice on flies/techniques

Steelhead run in our coastal rivers generally in December, January and February. A few are caught before and after but the main runs are in this time. The Klamath and its tributaries have a fall or late summer run during September and October. (These fish actually bite flies) For the Russian River the best local info comes from King’s Bait and Tackle in downtown Guerneville.  I don’t have the number but call 707-555-1212. Typically for these winter run fish we need a good storm to open up the rivers, then a week or more to clear.  The fish hit flies best when the rivers are dropping and clearing.  Flies most often used are black and flourescent weighted wet flies in sizes 4-8 and also some big psychedelic maribou "popsicles". Deep drifts along the bottom are recommended. Also typical is a hundred fishing hours or so per winter steelhead caught on flies. But that hundred hours can be quite wonderful in the misty redwoods. I have yet to catch one of these coastal winter fish on flies after about twenty trips.  But to me just seeing a ten pound fish when I have a fly rod in my hands is enough. Good luck! Mark Vinsel May the wild fish live to spawn, and may the brood of their progeny break the tippets of our grandchildren!

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<snip Also typical is a hundred fishing hours or so per winter steelhead caught on flies. But that hundred hours can be quite wonderful in the misty redwoods. I have yet to catch one of these coastal winter fish on flies after about twenty trips.  But to me just seeing a ten pound fish when I have a fly rod in my hands is enough.

Yikes, Mark!  I’ve read your posts with enthusiasm and respect (here and on the listserver) for some time.  If you can’t catch ‘em, who can?   I was gonna get a heavier rod (only have my two backpacking 5wts) and give it a try….  OTH, as you say, there is nothing like the mist in the redwoods… Brook Schoenfield

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<snip Also typical is a hundred fishing hours or so per winter steelhead caught on flies. But that hundred hours can be quite wonderful in the misty redwoods. I have yet to catch one of these coastal winter fish on flies after about twenty trips.  But to me just seeing a ten pound fish when I have a fly rod in my hands is enough.

Hey Vinnie!! Even though you didn’t get a steelie, I can think of something else you may have caught.  ;-) BH’s Double D

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Yikes, Mark!  I’ve read your posts with enthusiasm and respect (here and on the listserver) for some time.  If you can’t catch ‘em, who can?   Brook Schoenfield

I’m sure some kid or beginner somewhere has walked right up, flubbed their cast and latched onto and landed one. Timing is key.  You can put your fly right in front of those winter fish over and over again with nothing to show, but sometimes I’ve heard they bite. That’s OK with me. I caught one Navarro river winter steelie about ten years ago on bait, and last year I had a hit on the Smith. I covered the Society hole and the run from the tailout above, over and over again before watching a drift boat baitor hook and land a twenty-pounder right where I’d fished.  Somehow the pleasure of flyfishing wins, and I gladly accept this part of luck.  As I caught one on the Thompson in BC my first trip, and have often had fall fish on the Klamath, I am plenty satisfied. Most often I go to get away from some urban stresses. Hooking a steelhead is not relaxing but casting and working the fly is. King harvest will surely come! -The Band Mark Vinsel May the wild fish live to spawn, and may their progeny break the tippets of our grandchildren

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