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Being a bit sceptical of books and such-like I would like some proven web pages on rod-building. I am a complete novice (idiot) and need something simple. Preferably with pictures….

The Virtual Fly Shop www.virtualflyshop.com has a good basic rodbuilding section that can guide you through the process, and the Custom Rod Builders Guild www.rodguild.com also has a message board for the questions that will inevitably pop up. Joe F.

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That’s right! I completely forgot about that. So the (idiot) really applies. Ari – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Being a bit sceptical of books and such-like I would like some proven web pages on rod-building. I am a complete novice (idiot) and need something simple. Preferably with pictures…. The Virtual Fly Shop www.virtualflyshop.com has a good basic rodbuilding section that can guide you through the process, and the Custom Rod Builders Guild www.rodguild.com also has a message board for the questions that will inevitably pop up. Joe F.

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Being a bit sceptical of books and such-like I would like some proven web pages on rod-building. I am a complete novice (idiot) and need something simple. Preferably with pictures…. Thanks guys. Ari Ari Bert                                        Gaelle Bert +27 (0) 83 232 9903                             +27 (0) 83 236 5308 Flyfishing Corner +27 (0) 11 447 7230                             Shop 94, Admirals Court +27 (0) 11 882 8537 (fax)                       Cnr Craddock & Tyrwhitt www.troutfishing.co.za                                Street, Rosebank P.O.Box 79067 Senderwood 2145 South Africa

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Well if ROFF is rec.outdoors.fishing fly then! Vern

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What is the web address? I have never been able to find them. Big Dale

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What is the web address? I have never been able to find them. Big Dale

Newsgroup:  alt.binaries.pictures.fishing — All fishermen are liars ‘cept you n me, and I’m starting to have doubts about you! www.fishticker.com

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If anybody is interested I started posting a couple of picts on ABPF from the Maine Clave and will do a few every night ( unless someone has a problem with having there pict posted there, let me know). There is a couple of pictures up from yesterday at Salmon River when I meet Joe F. and his freind Craig. Had a great time with them and the fishing was great! Vern

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If anybody is interested I started posting a couple of picts on ABPF from the Maine Clave and will do a few every night ( unless someone has a problem with having there pict posted there, let me know). There is a couple of pictures up from yesterday at Salmon River when I meet Joe F. and his freind Craig. Had a great time with them and the fishing was great! Vern

I have saved most of them for wallpaper!  Great job Vern.  Thanks!! — A question debated and left unanswered is better than a question answered without debate.

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If anybody is interested I started posting a couple of picts on ABPF

If ABPF was something I knew of, then I’ve forgotten what it is. Regards, Jeff

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If anybody is interested I started posting a couple of picts on ABPF If ABPF was something I knew of, then I’ve forgotten what it is.

alt.binaries.pictures.fishing — Charlie…

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maturely put….

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A well constructed TROLL is entertaining for those who recognise it as such. It should draw in fools and make them look even more foolish. Perhaps it may turn into an education for the fools, if the realise their foolishness. However, many posts classed as TROLLS aren’t worthy of the name. Consider a fishing analogy – a good TROLL is like a well tied fly, most TROLLs are simply bent nails with a dead worm. Despite most people claiming that they recognise them, they still seem to attract a huge following. A bit like a stupid fish still biting the dead worm even though it recognises it is attached to the hook. Mr Romney’s "If you bought a Hasselblad in 1970…" had over 20 replies as I scrolled past it, but I’m sure most people would claim to spot the basic flaw in his understanding of economics. Now, as for the "this brand is better than that brand", if I stick with the fishing analogy, that is like dropping a grenade in the pond to see what floats to the surface! Yet people are still drawn to the grenade as it sinks to the bottom of the pond just before it explodes. Why not all show your true intelligence and stop chasing what you all recognise as rubbish. I welcome sensible discussion and perhaps some well constructed and unbiased FAQ’s for newcomers covering the basics such as basic lens and body selection (without being brand specific), airport X-rays, etc.

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A well constructed TROLL is entertaining for those who recognise it as such. It should draw in fools and make them look even more foolish. Perhaps it may turn into an education for the fools, if the realise their foolishness. However, many posts classed as TROLLS aren’t worthy of the name. Consider a fishing analogy – a good TROLL is like a well tied fly, most TROLLs are simply bent nails with a dead worm. Despite most people claiming that they recognise them, they still seem to attract a huge following. A bit like a stupid fish still biting the dead worm even though it recognises it is attached to the hook. Mr Romney’s "If you bought a Hasselblad in 1970…" had over 20 replies as I scrolled past it, but I’m sure most people would claim to spot the basic flaw in his understanding of economics. Now, as for the "this brand is better than that brand", if I stick with the fishing analogy, that is like dropping a grenade in the pond to see what floats to the surface! Yet people are still drawn to the grenade as it sinks to the bottom of the pond just before it explodes. Why not all show your true intelligence and stop chasing what you all recognise as rubbish. I welcome sensible discussion and perhaps some well constructed and unbiased FAQ’s for newcomers covering the basics such as basic lens and body selection (without being brand specific), airport X-rays, etc.

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1996 Astro 15 footer 90 HP mercury outboard motorguide RF trolling motor custom cover custom trailor.                                $7995.00 Call Tom Bauer 1-908-686-2800

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Hi Guys, I just started coming to this news group in addition to the fly fishing newsgroups I subscribe to.  I was once such a hard core bass fisherman that I never went fishing without my boat.  Now I do both stream and lake fishing with my first love being fishing for bass and preferably with a fly rod. Being on this group is great!  However, I am surprised at the amount of advertising showing up here.  Is this a valid forum for advertising your used fishing gear? Pete

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I believe personal gear is ok.  Trying to pass off comercial for personal is a no no. Brian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Guys, I just started coming to this news group in addition to the fly fishing newsgroups I subscribe to.  I was once such a hard core bass fisherman that I never went fishing without my boat.  Now I do both stream and lake fishing with my first love being fishing for bass and preferably with a fly rod. Being on this group is great!  However, I am surprised at the amount of advertising showing up here.  Is this a valid forum for advertising your used fishing gear? Pete 1996 Astro 15 footer 90 HP mercury outboard motorguide RF trolling motor custom cover custom trailor.                                $7995.00 Call Tom Bauer 1-908-686-2800

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The Guidelines allows posting of personal advertisements, as long as the subject specifies ‘For Sale.’ — Go fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales!    Columbia SC, Lake Murray

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Thanks. Pete

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Hi! I’m new to this newsgroup, and was wondering if anyone on here regularly fishes in Pennsylvania, specifically southwest/southcentral.  I’m from the Pittsburgh area, and do most of my flyfishing at Dunbar Creek and Laurel Hill Creek in Fayette Co., and Little Mahoning Creek in Indiana Co. (I believe). Just hoping I could find someone to BS with. Nicole

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Hi! I’m new to this newsgroup, and was wondering if anyone on here regularly fishes in Pennsylvania, specifically southwest/southcentral.  I’m from the Pittsburgh area, and do most of my flyfishing at Dunbar Creek and Laurel Hill Creek in Fayette Co., and Little Mahoning Creek in Indiana Co. (I believe). Just hoping I could find someone to BS with.

Nicole – sorry, I’m a bit west and north of you – Centre County (State College), but come on up some time for some real fishing Mark Faulkner

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Hi Nicole:     I’m in the same area, and based on your email probably work in the same general vicinity as you.  Fish Lyolhanna near Ligoner a good deal and like Slippery Rock near Portersville, both are within an hour of downtown Pgh. Drop a note or what ever. M. Sendek – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi! I’m new to this newsgroup, and was wondering if anyone on here regularly fishes in Pennsylvania, specifically southwest/southcentral.  I’m from the Pittsburgh area, and do most of my flyfishing at Dunbar Creek and Laurel Hill Creek in Fayette Co., and Little Mahoning Creek in Indiana Co. (I believe). Just hoping I could find someone to BS with. Nicole

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We’re planning a camping vacation in Minnesota — probably central Minnesota.  What’s the fly fishing potential in this state and where would it be best?  Can anyone help.  Never been in this area before.

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We’re planning a camping vacation in Minnesota — probably central Minnesota.  What’s the fly fishing potential in this state and where would it be best?  Can anyone help.  Never been in this area before.

If you’re willing to fish for sunfish you’re about to enter heaven. If you want trout you’d have to try SE Minnesota or Western Wisconsin.  When you say central Minnesota are you thinking of the St. Cloud area, or Little Falls area, or further north? I can give more details if you’ll limit your region a little more. In general Minnesota is full of many small lakes.  Most of these lakes hold good populations of sunfish,  crappie, some largemouth bass and usually Northern Pike.  I prefer the sunfish because they’re almost always active and put up quite a fight on light tackle (3 – 5 wt.)  The standard tackle for bass is 8 wt.  You need to cast a long ways and you have to be able to pull them out of the weeds.  I’ve never tried Northern on a fly but an 8 wt, sinking line, and a big, flashy fly should work well. John F. Close

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I’ll be in Los Angeles on business in late April.  Can anyone offer advice on the Kern River, or any other good rivers close enough to fish in a day trip from LA?  Conditions?  Recommended flies?  All advice appreciated. Thanks, George Black

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I’ll be in Los Angeles on business in late April.  Can anyone offer advice on the Kern River, or any other good rivers close enough to fish in a day trip from LA?  Conditions?  Recommended flies?  All advice appreciated. Thanks, George Black

Hi George, You might take a look at the Aguabonita Fly Fishers home page. The club is located in Ridgecrest, California. I believe the Kern is one of their home waters. The site can be accessed at: http://www1.ridgecrest.ca.us/~auborn/agua/agua.html I hope this helps,    Alan.   Alan Barnard   Kiene’s Fly Shop   Sacramento, California   WWW Fly Tyer   http://www.ns.net/~barnard

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I learned to fly fish on the Kern and can tell you a little about it. Firstly, there is an incredible motel/steak house up the Kern from Kernville called Johnny McNally’s that you absolutely must stay at.  They serve a 48 ounce porterhouse called "The Logger" that you can cut with a fork.  Try the 28 ounce Filet.   Onto fishing… Drive up the Kern past McNally’s to the Johnsondale Bridge.  The road that parallels the River departs at this point.  Park here and hike up the river and fish as you go.  There is about 4-5 miles of trails up the gorge and all the fishing is single barbless artificials only.  You can keep two a day over 14".  BE CAREFUL!!    I’ve been stopped twice out of three visits by the game marshal.  Don’t waste your time on the weekends below the bridge, but during the week it is not crowded.  I’ve heard that the San Gabriel is a good spot for fishing, but there have been gang problems. Get a good topographical map of the region- there is also the entire Golden Trout Wilderness farther up the Kern you need to explore.  

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 I’ve heard that the San Gabriel is a good spot for fishing, but there have been gang problems.

What sort of problems have you heard about?  I’ve fish the West fork a few times recently and have wondered about all the graffitti.   Rick Krizman KrizManic Music,   Venice, CA

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I have heard that when fighting a hooked trout it is a good idea to keep the rod as close to the water as possible-the idea being that upward pressure spooks the fish more than sideways pressure.  Any thoughts? Plus, what do you do if you have hooked a large fish on a light tippet and he has run 50 yds. down stream and there is no way for you to walk downstream?  Should you try to muscle him in? Tarpon

   A). Sideways pressure wears out a fish quickly because it is forced to swim against the force "unbalanced". Direct upward pressure allows a fish to point his nose down and "square" against the resistance of your rod (just as if you were dragging a sack of concrete on a rope, it would be easier to do so with the rope over your shoulders and the weight squared against your body.    More importantly, with a rod held high you are applying force with the limber tip of the rod. Pulling to the side with rod held low you are almost automatically using the stronger lower third of the rod to muscle the fish.    B). With a fish stubbornly holding downcurrent, you can flake line into the water so that a belly developes in the line downstream of the fish. Very often (almost always in my experience) the fish will resist the pull coming from below him and will swim upstream towards you.       Hope that helped.    -Ralph Ralph Cutter, California School of Flyfishing. http://www.flyline.com

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[Cut]    More importantly, with a rod held high you are applying force with the limber tip of the rod. Pulling to the side with rod held low you are almost automatically using the stronger lower third of the rod to muscle the fish.[Cut]

OK, I realize I was dating some girl at the time and physics class was all the way over on the other campus but I don’t believe that the point expressed above is valid.  Gravity is not a major component of this problem so up, down, and side aren’t major issues.  The angle of the line to the rod is the critical issue.  This angle isn’t necessarily changed by lowering the rod to your side.  The angle is changed by lowering or raising the rod tip in the direction of the fish – regardless of whether you are holding the rod above your head or out to the side.   —     David J. Ebinger                     216-966-9702     Ebinger Equipment Co.                Fax 966-7671     http://www.bright.net/~ebco/

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I am looknig for information about formulas for tying my own tapered 5x, 6x, and 7x leaders of 9, 10, and 12 ft lengths.  I have the Orvis fly fishing book, but the section on tying leaders only gives one example and is rather oblique about how to extrapolate to different tippet sizes and lengths.  This book focus most on how you’d modify a 4x leader once you had started fishing.  I would like to tie some long 5, 6, and 7x leaders before I leave home to save time on the stream and so that I don’t have to make minor comprimises on lengths of the tapering sections of the leader once I am already fishing.  The Orvis book suggest a 60-20-20 formula for the 4x leader example, but even this is modified when the author actually starts explaining how to assemble the leader. Any helpful information on this score would be greatly appreciated…even a suggestion of an alternate book source with a good discussion of tippets. good fishing, eel

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Any helpful information on this score would be greatly

appreciated…even a suggestion of an alternate book source with a good discussion of

tippets. Check "The Curtis Creek Manifesto" for an effective, simple, understandable treatment, and McCLane’s Encyclopedia of Fishing for a more authoritative one. If I can remember it, I’ll post the formula from the "Manifesto". Tim

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