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I didn’t see your original post so I don’tknow what your original questions were but I am pretty sure I can help you. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Guided flyfishing on the Roanoke River and the Crystal Coast of NC out of Atlantic Beach/Morhead City/Beaufort.

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THanks for the reply. My wife and I are coming to Harkers Island in late October for 2 days of Albie fishing with Sarah Gardner. We plan to come a day early and spend a day seeing the sights, fishing from shore, visiting tackle shops, etc. My question was asking about places to fish, sights to see, and generally what to do in the area. We have a 4×4. Any info will be terrific! Peter G. Aitken I didn’t see your original post so I don’tknow what your original questions were but I am pretty sure I can help you. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Guided flyfishing on the Roanoke River and the Crystal Coast of NC out of

Atlantic Beach/Morhead City/Beaufort.

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Thanks so much, Tony. We are heading down on Oct 23 so we still have time to plan. Any other info you can send will be terrific. Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter, I go to Harker’s Island every November for the ‘albert fishing and can offer some suggestions. 1. Places to eat: I always try the locally owned establishments. The Crab’s Claw and Sanitary Fish Market immediately come to mind. 2. All of the Core Banks is open to 4 wheel drive traffic, though you will have take one of the private commerical ferries over. I believe it cost me $120 for the vehicle and 2 people (round trip). Also there are a couple of services that will take you via boat to Core Banks (and I believe Shackleford Banks, wild horses on this one), for a small fee, maybe $25 or so. I know that one operates out of Harkers Island Marina.  This would allow you to walk the beaches, fish and  then be picked up in the afternoon. And I think the Park Service may operate one as well. I would also suggest you contact the guide or charter service you will be using, I’m sure they can provide you all of the information you need. I may be able to locate some of the info I originally dug up a few years ago when I started going there, if so I’ll let you know. Tony Minnick

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My wife and I will be doing a couple of days of charter fishing at Harker’s Island in late October. We have never been there and have some questions. 1. Recommendations on places to stay – or to avoid. 2. Restaurants. 3. We are considering going a day early to see the sights and do some from-the-shore fishing. What possibilities exist for this kind of fishing (either fly or surf casting)? Are there beaches that are open to trucks? Any and all information welcomed. THanks, Peter G. Aitken

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Check with Gordon Churchill at  http://www.flyfish-nc.com. Tom — Tom Brown Wake Forest, NC When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command.  Very often, that person is crazy.                                    …..Dave Barry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I will be doing a couple of days of charter fishing at Harker’s Island in late October. We have never been there and have some questions. 1. Recommendations on places to stay – or to avoid. 2. Restaurants. 3. We are considering going a day early to see the sights and do some from-the-shore fishing. What possibilities exist for this kind of fishing (either fly or surf casting)? Are there beaches that are open to trucks? Any and all information welcomed. THanks, Peter G. Aitken

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Peter, I go to Harker’s Island every November for the ‘albert fishing and can offer some suggestions. 1. Places to eat: I always try the locally owned establishments. The Crab’s Claw and Sanitary Fish Market immediately come to mind. 2. All of the Core Banks is open to 4 wheel drive traffic, though you will have take one of the private commerical ferries over. I believe it cost me $120 for the vehicle and 2 people (round trip). Also there are a couple of services that will take you via boat to Core Banks (and I believe Shackleford Banks, wild horses on this one), for a small fee, maybe $25 or so. I know that one operates out of Harkers Island Marina.  This would allow you to walk the beaches,  fish and  then be picked up in the afternoon. And I think the Park Service may operate one as well. I would also suggest you contact the guide or charter service you will be using, I’m sure they can provide you all of the information you need. I may be able to locate some of the info I originally dug up a few years ago when I started going there, if so I’ll let you know. Tony Minnick

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I am spending the first week of July in the Brooks Camp within Katmai National Park and wanted some fishing advice.  Can anyone tell me some good areas to fish.  I hear the fishing is great during that time of year but this is my first trip to the park.  I wondered if anyone had any specific advice for areas to fish and hike. I have looked at the various websites and they don’t get very specific.  Will there be mostly Red Salmon that time of year?  Kings?  Are there good Steelhead or Dolly runs?  Any information you would be able to share would be greatly appreciated.  Also, is there any way to float out of the Park back to King Salmon?   Thanks, Rob

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Hi Rob, We had group trips for ~20 years out of our shop lead by my good friend Joe Shirshac. The Brooks river is small (under ~2miles?) and runs between two large lakes. In July there will be lots of Sockeye Salmon and lots of Brown Bears. There is a famous falls there where they observe the bears fishing for the salmon. The Sockeyes are very fresh and fight like crazy. We used a 10′ type 3 sinktip on a #7 or 8 outfit. A 7 1/2′ 0x to 2x leader and small sparse Sockeye flies. They are so thick at times, you will snag them if you strip the fly at all. There are also nice Rainbow trout in the Brooks. You can catch them on green Sculpin imitations, leeches, wooly bugger and nymphs. Some dries work too. The best fishing for the Sockeye is way below the falls down by the mouth going into the lake. The best Rainbow fishing is the stretch above the falls. If you email Joe, he will probably give you some real good info. When he started going there over 20 years ago, they camped out for about a month in the camp ground that is near the Brooks Lodge. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop http://www.kiene.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am spending the first week of July in the Brooks Camp within Katmai National Park and wanted some fishing advice.  Can anyone tell me some good areas to fish.  I hear the fishing is great during that time of year but this is my first trip to the park.  I wondered if anyone had any specific advice for areas to fish and hike. I have looked at the various websites and they don’t get very specific.  Will there be mostly Red Salmon that time of year? Kings?  Are there good Steelhead or Dolly runs?  Any information you would be able to share would be greatly appreciated.  Also, is there any way to float out of the Park back to King Salmon? Thanks, Rob

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How much does the seven and one half four wt. weight? 3.15 Ounces (troy) Mr. G.

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SPAM — Ken Fortenberry

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LOL!  You go, "Hair-trigger Ken"!

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SPAM — Ken Fortenberry

don’t start! If you want to see the posts I have, I can post those also. However; it was a legal FLY FISHING question, and the question would be no different had someone asked about a Phillipson, Heddon, St. Croix graphite, a Thomas & Thomas Bamboo, or what have you. Just because it comes from me about something "I’M" involved with, doesn’t make it spam.  I should also clarify that most 7.5′ Bamboo Fly rods weight BETWEEN 3.15 to 4 ounces.  Is that spam also? NOT! Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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SPAM LOL!  You go, "Hair-trigger Ken"!

______  Go hell.  Hit him in the head with a ball bat.  The man is crazy. Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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SPAM LOL!  You go, "Hair-trigger Ken"!

Goddamn right. It is ZERO fucking tolerance time for G SPAM. Especially in light of your Pollyanna appeal for peace and good will and my New Year Toast. Nobody asked anything about rod weight, this thread is nothing but a gratuitous troll for SPAM and I do not mind being the first to say so. — Ken Fortenberry

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How much does the seven and one half four wt. weight? 3.15 Ounces (troy) Mr. G.

Do you have a town North of Troy called Avoirdupois?  (smiling*) So fly rods in the 7.5′ Range made of Bamboo would seem to weight more in the English rather then the metric system which is STILL 98 – 100 Grams.  The rod I weighted compared to others may be more or less. These weights with all manufacturers are ‘more or less’ in this area because the weights can change because of the TYPE of cork handle a customer may want.  The same series or style of fly rods usually are offered with about three different styles of cork handles. Hope this helps everyone to understand bamboo fly rods ‘in general’. Again Ken.  This is NOT spam. We can talk about it on the Roff Chat Site tonight if you want. Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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Goddamn right. It is ZERO fucking tolerance time for G SPAM. Especially in light of your Pollyanna appeal for peace and good will and my New Year Toast. Nobody asked anything about rod weight, this thread is nothing but a gratuitous troll for SPAM and I do not mind being the first to say so.

OK, OK. Sheesh – don’t start swinging at your friends, too, big fella. /daytripper ("Pollyanna appeal"? Gonna have to look that one up ;^)

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George Gehrke writes: If you want to see the posts I have, I can post those also.

George, I see no posts regarding the weight of a 7 1/2 ft bamboo fly rod, except your’s.  Do you mean to say you got a question via e-mail and you are answering it here?  If so, that is spam.  Ken’s right again, it appears. Louie

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Am I missing some post’s here, I can’t find the question. Wonder what other post’s that I missed!!!. How can I know? I might be missing half or more that goes on here!! Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – SPAM — Ken Fortenberry don’t start! If you want to see the posts I have, I can post those also. However; it was a legal FLY FISHING question, and the question would be no different had someone asked about a Phillipson, Heddon, St. Croix graphite, a Thomas & Thomas Bamboo, or what have you. Just because it comes from me about something "I’M" involved with, doesn’t make it spam.  I should also clarify that most 7.5′ Bamboo Fly rods weight BETWEEN 3.15 to 4 ounces.  Is that spam also? NOT! Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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Mike are you saying thatthis could be a Y2k bug problem, George is getting post’s that no one else see’s?. I still can’t find a post that say’s How much does the seven and one half four wt. weight? Dave ( confused) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I cant find any posts either. I even reset and reloaded the NG just to be sure. Over a thousand posts ! Don’t want to do that too often. This could still be a mistake though. I never see any posts containing binaries, my ISP filters them automatically, and I have occasionally missed posts in the past apparently due to ISP hiccoughs. Oh well,  it was a fairly pleasant year 2000 while it lasted ! TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de (SNIP)

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Sorry Mike to get you on edge, just wondering what good info I’m missin. There has been alot of strange post’s on here latly that seems to have parts that I’m not getting( Like redd tarp posting a question and a answer in the same post)and so forth. just wondering if that is the whole post or did somthing fly by me..And yes I did see the hinged indicator post (very good) and I have a lot to learn about flyfishing, I may not have enough knowledge to help most people but I try to read all that takes place here. The hinged indicator reminds me of some tacktics that I see used on the steelhead river I fish, but instead of on the surface the hinge point is a small wheight at the bottom that the fly is a small distance from. This allows the fly to drift down the current pointing forward slowly while the wheight bounces along the bottom. Do us all a favor and never change( not that you can) and a HAPPY NEW YEAR over on the other side of the pond! Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No Dave, I was simply saying that I could not find the post either. It might not exist, or it might just be a copy from George’s e-mail, but I have no way of knowing.  Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt is all. He does seem to be making a special, more or less successful, effort to avoid problems recently, and it would be a shame if we got into another flame war, justified or not.  I have had one weird experience already today ( see "CUPERTINO " ) which I am unable to explain, there might equally well be others. Whatever, I am a bit tired of just fighting, I have done too much of it, I am getting too old for it, and it bores me.  One big plus today was hearing about the "right angle indicator" technique, something like that compensates for a lot of crap in my opinion, and is in fact one of my main reasons for subscribing to this NG. Would be nice to hear more of such, and less of the other, irrespective of the past, or justifiable grounds etc etc. Before anybody jumps on that, I am perfectly well aware that I am just guilty as anyone else in this respect. TL MC "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de (SNIP)

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I cant find any posts either. I even reset and reloaded the NG just to be sure. Over a thousand posts ! Don’t want to do that too often. This could still be a mistake though. I never see any posts containing binaries, my ISP filters them automatically, and I have occasionally missed posts in the past apparently due to ISP hiccoughs. Oh well,  it was a fairly pleasant year 2000 while it lasted ! TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

(SNIP)

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No Dave, I was simply saying that I could not find the post either. It might not exist, or it might just be a copy from George’s e-mail, but I have no way of knowing.  Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt is all. He does seem to be making a special, more or less successful, effort to avoid problems recently, and it would be a shame if we got into another flame war, justified or not.  I have had one weird experience already today ( see "CUPERTINO " ) which I am unable to explain, there might equally well be others. Whatever, I am a bit tired of just fighting, I have done too much of it, I am getting too old for it, and it bores me.  One big plus today was hearing about the "right angle indicator" technique, something like that compensates for a lot of crap in my opinion, and is in fact one of my main reasons for subscribing to this NG. Would be nice to hear more of such, and less of the other, irrespective of the past, or justifiable grounds etc etc. Before anybody jumps on that, I am perfectly well aware that I am just guilty as anyone else in this respect. TL MC "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

(SNIP)

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Sorry Mike to get you on edge, just wondering what good info I’m missin.

snipped to save space: ______  Actually David, I should write an entire article on just Bamboo Fly Rod weights.  It might be rather interesting, if you’re interested? Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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You did not get me on edge Dave. Your question was legitimate I thought. I have been wondering a bit myself lately, as I have regularly missed posts, which actually should be impossible. I read the group several times a day. Several times I have had to reset Outlook Express, and download all posts again to see the ones I missed. I never see binaries anyway, but the ones I have been missing lately have been normal text posts. I have no idea why, server glitches or software glitches I suppose. I have heard a little on this from another NG as well. My other comments were general in nature, and not directed at you. Tight lines ! Mike Connor– "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

Sorry Mike to get you on edge, just wondering what good info I’m missin.

(SNIP)

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What the Hell does this have to do with anything? If it is a reply to a post, it should be at the bottom of the post. What is it doing here? George, I thought you were going to be good this year. Vern – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How much does the seven and one half four wt. weight? 3.15 Ounces (troy) Mr. G.

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You need not worry Vern. Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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Vern, Nearly very time GG posts something it’s a lie. So you expect him to have changed, I doubt it. I was optimistic for a while but then he started again.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What the Hell does this have to do with anything? If it is a reply to a post, it should be at the bottom of the post. What is it doing here? George, I thought you were going to be good this year. Vern How much does the seven and one half four wt. weight? 3.15 Ounces (troy) Mr. G.

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Mike are you saying thatthis could be a Y2k bug problem, George is getting post’s that no one else see’s?

Don’t waste your time Dave.  This is just another piece of spam from ROFF’s own god of dementia.

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as my abused feet thaw, i thought i’d share a trip report with ya’ll. jeff arrived at the predetermined time, and i was damn near ready. we eventually loaded my gear in the truck and made our way off to the elk. we stopped at a convenience store for ice but it really wasn’t needed— we could have just as well laid the beer out in the truck bed and it would have been properly chilled upon our return. we walked the snow packed trail down and reached our favorite put-in spot. as we had rigged up at the truck, we were ready to fish. aberrantly, i cockily asked jeff if he wanted to see a fish out of the first hole. i dropped my bhhe into the water..and lordy…a rainbow made me look like a laughing prophet. jeff just shook his head and laughed. i knew we were in for one hell of a special day. nymphing in the blue cold of winter is wonderful. the air is crisp and fresh, the river is changed, yet gorgeous in it’s white blanket. i’d finish this story for ya’ll…but sweet smells are wafting down here from marie’s cooking and i’m starved… just let it be known that it really doesn’t get any better than to be astream with a good friend, no matter how friggin cold it is! waldo..prince of pilsner

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<good report snipped Nice sounding report Walt.  One time fishing the Upper Provo, my friend was not having any luck. I asked to see his rig.  He was using a gold ribbed hare’s ear.  I laid a cast using his fly rod in some ripples just before a pool and hooked up to a nice 12" rainbow.  Handed the rod back to him and told him, seems to be working fine.  It was pure luck and great timing on my part. bc. — Angling may be said to be so like the mathematics that it can never be fully learnt — Izaak Walton

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Blackcat writes: Nice sounding report Walt.  One time fishing the Upper Provo, my friend was not having any luck. I asked to see his rig.  He was using a gold ribbed hare’s ear.  I laid a cast using his fly rod in some ripples just before a pool and hooked up to a nice 12" rainbow.  Handed the rod back to him and told him, seems to be working fine.  It was pure luck and great timing on my part. bc.

LOL.  That has happened to all of us, I belief.  The best one that happened to me concerned a registered Maine Guide.  He was "trying out" a new 3 weight he had just made.  I sat for about 10 minutes watching him cast a size 20 emerger into a particular pool.  He asked me to try the rod.  I made several false casts, sort of getting the feel of things.  When I presented the fly, it must have landed right in front of a 17 inch land locked salmon, for he came up and slashed at the fly.  The rest is a pleasant memory.  When I released the fish, I told him it not only cast well, but landed well too.  <g Dave L.

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There are two schools of thought on this: !.  Too many guides restrict the rod’s action. 2. Too few guides allow the line to drag against the rod when it flexes. Take your pick. — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail GO TO http://users.ccnet.com/~emh FOR TRAVEL TIE BOX PLANS Hi there! I am building a 7 foot 2-3wt st.croix rod. The problem is that I have found 2 different guide spacing charts for 7 footers. One used 8 guides the other 9. Which one should I use? Jarkko —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am building a 7 foot 2-3wt st.croix rod. The problem is that I have found 2 different guide spacing charts for 7 footers. One used 8 guides the other 9. Which one should I use?<BR The general rule of thumb is one guide for every foot plus the stripper, so 8 is the general rule of thumb.  One thing you might try is to tape the guides on with both the spacing for the 9 guides and the 8 guides and them string a line trhough them and see how the rod flexes.  Basically, the more guides the more friction.  But fewer is not better either – find a hapy medium by flexing the rod with line through the guides and make sure there are no dead spotsor places where the line touches the rod. Or – you might try calling St Croix.  I bet they would give you the guide spacing they use on the factory rod. Al Manchester, NH

      I know you are not the original poster but he may read this. I have an 8′ 8wt, a 7′6" 3wt and a 6′6" 5wt. The question gave me food for thought so I counted the guides on each, they all have 8, stripper included. with the exception of stripper and tip-top are all snake guides, all are factory. I also looked up the guide kits all are 8 guide.                                                              John Popp                                                           in Sanford Fl.

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I know you are not the original poster but he may read this. Ihave an 8′

8wt, a 7′6" 3wt and a 6′6" 5wt. The question gave me food forthought so I counted the guides on each, they all have 8, stripperincluded. with the exception of stripper and tip-top are all snakeguides, all are factory. I also looked up the guide kits all are 8guide. I don’t doubt that all your rods in various lengths have the same amount of gudes.  This is a subjuect that is debated as much as anythng in fly fishing. As I said "the general rule of thumb" is one per foot plus a stripper guide. Many manufacturers leave a guide or two off to save money, some rods cast better with fewer or more guides. There are a couple of ways to determine guide spacing.  Clemens and Anglers Work Shop as well as some otheres I would guess sell a tool that will allow you to test the spacing of the guides with the rod under load.  There is a program that Cane rod builders use that was written by Wayne Catanach that calculates the spacing based on the number of guides you choose and the placement of the stripper guide.  Several books list guide placement charts as well, and Blue Ridge Rod Company includes a very good one in their catalog. I personally have always used the 1 guide per foot plus the stripper for my rods.   In Skip Morris’s book "The Custon Graphite Rod" and in Handcrafting Custom Graphite Fly Rods" by L.A. Garcia, this is the information that they provide, although the spacings are a bit different and Skip Morris provides some good insight as to the actuual placement of guides based on the rod and the fishermam it is intended for, as well as some general guide lines for placement of guides on soft and fast action rods.  It is interesting reading. The mark of a true custom rod may be going to the extra step of testing the guide placement with the rod under stress.  I have done this a few times but the standard guide placements on the graphite rods I have built have all been so close that I dont worry about it any more. It’s an interesting debate for rod builders.  Could you tell me where you looked up the guide kits for these rods?  Might just be a catalog I am missing:))))) Al Manchester, NH

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I am building a 7 foot 2-3wt st.croix rod. The problem is that I have found 2

different guide spacing charts for 7 footers. One used 8 guides the other 9. Which one should I use?<BR The general rule of thumb is one guide for every foot plus the stripper, so 8 is the general rule of thumb.  One thing you might try is to tape the guides on with both the spacing for the 9 guides and the 8 guides and them string a line trhough them and see how the rod flexes.  Basically, the more guides the more friction.  But fewer is not better either – find a hapy medium by flexing the rod with line through the guides and make sure there are no dead spotsor places where the line touches the rod. Or – you might try calling St Croix.  I bet they would give you the guide spacing they use on the factory rod. Al Manchester, NH

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Hi there! I am building a 7 foot 2-3wt st.croix rod. The problem is that I have found 2 different guide spacing charts for 7 footers. One used 8 guides the other 9. Which one should I use? Jarkko

I don’t know how prevelent St Croix rods are in Finland, but your best bet would probably be to find an assembled rod from the manufacturer and copy their guided size and placement. There are some rod shop owners on this group, maybe one of them can measure it for you if you can’t find the rod in your area. Good luck,      - Ken

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Hi there! I am building a 7 foot 2-3wt st.croix rod. The problem is that I have found 2 different guide spacing charts for 7 footers. One used 8 guides the other 9. Which one should I use?

Jarkko, here’s the spacing (and 7 Fuji guides) that I use on a 7ft fly rod. Note that the last (8mm2) is a 2-footed guide, the rest are single foot guides, and the measurements are in inches starting from the tip. If I recall, I got these recommendations from L.G. Custom Tackle (G. Loomis dealer and custom rod builder) many years ago. IMHO I think 9 guides is way too many for anything under 8′. I prefer the single footed Hardloy or SIC Fuji’s to the traditional snake guides which allow the line to slap against the blank. 7′ – 4(6mm), 9(6mm), 15(6mm), 22(7mm), 30(7mm), 40(8mm), 52(8mm2) Now you have 3 choices David E. Malone All opinions expressed are my own.

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Hello folks, Spring did not come soon enough…our 8 month winter here in Northern Vermont appears to be over.  The majority of spring run-off is complete.  Here are the conditions for the Lamoille and Winooski Watersheds in the Greater Burlington and Stowe areas: Water temps are in the low 50’s and clarity remains that of a near empty coffee cup.  Do not fear though…bugs have been seen on the banks.  Early black and brown stoneflies and blue quills (para’ adoptiva for you science buffs) have shown up in small numbers.  This being said blue wing olives are soon to follow.  Little black caddis are around in some areas.  River levels are low for the spring but still high nonetheless.  We have received some rain and more is expected.  If you are making travel plans to fish hold off until the middle of May.  With the current weather patterns there is sure to be some great surface action by then.  Blame it on El Nino as my friend Davey Davis aka "Brown Trout" would say. Drop us a line if you have any questions. Happy Fishing James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service 1997 Guide of the Year Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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Thanks for the update. Just out of interest, are any of the ski resorts still open? I know some of them can go through May. Gary

Hello folks, Spring did not come soon enough…our 8 month winter here in Northern Vermont appears to be over.  The majority of spring run-off is complete.  Here are

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Spring did not come soon enough…our 8 month winter here in Northern Vermont appears to be over.  The majority of spring run-off is complete.  Here are the conditions for the Lamoille and Winooski Watersheds in the Greater Burlington and Stowe areas: Water temps are in the low 50’s and clarity remains that of a near empty coffee cup.  Do not fear though…bugs have been seen on the banks.  Early black and

Thanks for information.  How much earlier is this season than last? (E.g. northern Adirondack waters seem never to reach 50 before May, and some years not before May 20 approx.) — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Thanks for information.  How much earlier is this season than last? (E.g. northern Adirondack waters seem never to reach 50 before May, and some years not before May 20 approx.)

Donald, You are welcome.  Quite a bit – some 3 weeks.  Let me know if you ever have any other questions.   Best regards, James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service 1997 Guide of the Year Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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Don’t be so insecure, Muskie; nobody’s looking down their nose at you. In terms of making the kinds of choices you describe, e.g. where to fish, what kind of fish to fish for and etc., the reason the vast majority of people fish the way they do is *not* ethics, its aesthetic preference

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I will be out in the Durango Co. area in mid July.  I’m looking to get some good fly fishing in, but may not have enough time to spend fishing with a guide.  Any suggestions on some streams that I can fish casually? If so, what flys might be useful at this time. Thanks Mike

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I will be out in the Durango Co. area in mid July.  I’m looking to get some good fly fishing in, but may not have enough time to spend fishing with a guide.  Any suggestions on some streams that I can fish casually? If so, what flys might be useful at this time.

What you want is the San Juan River. It’s actually in New Mexico, but easily accessed from Durango. Wonderful fishing for big trout. Some special regulations and challenges, but well worth it. There are some good accessible places just down from Navajo Reservoir. Check out: Duranglers (guide service in Durango, can give advice at least) http://www.creativelinks.com/recreat/Duranglers.htm New Mexico Flyfishers http://www.thereellife.com/reellife/ — |    Liberty Communications — Michael P. Thompson      | |  Writing, editing, desktop publishing, consulting     | |      <http://www.ecentral.com/members/thompson       |

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  Given the Spiral of Death this ng has been in for a while, I  can only attribute it to    CABIN FEVER <<<   First of the year no less.   I  suggest we all run from our keyboards screaming some " PC" epithet and dive into the snow or at least in the freezer outside. Return  to your bench and tye  a dozen #22 Royal Humpys and call it a day.  All references to anatomical parts or functions, should be spoken, face down into the snow in a civil tone. Use of Prosaic & White Label with sensory depravation devices is frowned upon, but not forbidden. Remember that not long ago there was a good PMD hatch,that you just missed and the Sun was high and warm, and the river felt cool. We will be back there soon, Britt slang or no .   Harry "Only hundred and ten dozen more… shit"

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Hi Harry I agree with your "take" on the situation. The next thing we know someone with starting talking about Rush Limbaugh or Larry King and go bouncing in another direction. I like you "face down in the snow" idea, that would sure bring me up short. Speaking of which, I have about 14" of snow to shovel off the driveway, I guess I better get started. Darn! Other topic: You state at your signature "Only hundred and ten dozen more…" Are you a commercial tier? If you are I certainly understand you statement. Gretchen and I are winding down on an order for 350 dozen Royal Wulffs – only 27 more dozen to go. And then we have about another 800 to go. Oh well, Montana winter are long and we have plenty of time. Happy Holidays. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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Could someone help me with some info on the patterns which would be best for fishing the Muskegon or Au Sable rivers in Michigan in 2-3 weeks.  We are going to Grand Haven to visit my family for 2 weeks and I would like to get some fishing in.  I tie my own, so if you can suggest any conventional pattern, or give me a short description for local patterns I would be eternally grateful. Thanks, Jack Holton Denver, CO "Rasthedog"

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Look up the "white-gloved Howdey" in Caucci and Nastasi’s book, Hatches II. I use size 14.  The book also has hatch charts that can really help. Could someone help me with some info on the patterns which would be best for fishing the Muskegon or Au Sable rivers in Michigan in 2-3 weeks.  We are going to Grand Haven to visit my family for 2 weeks and I would like to get some fishing in.  I tie my own, so if you can suggest any conventional pattern, or give me a short description for local patterns I would be eternally grateful. Thanks, Jack Holton Denver, CO "Rasthedog" Regards, John Sirmans

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Could someone help me with some info on the patterns which would be best for fishing the Muskegon or Au Sable rivers in Michigan in 2-3 weeks.  We

Call Steve Southard, owner of the fly factory in Grayling MI at (517) 348-5844.  He should be able to give you some info.  Rusty Gates also has a nice shop up there, but I don’t have his number handy. . Lenny Bloksberg . .

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Rusty Gates phone #: 517-348-8462; Johnson’s Pere Marquette Lodge 616-745-3972. All three places (incl. the Fly Factory) should also be able to provide you with a guide if you are unfamiliar with the water. have fun – should be plenty of salmon in the waters in mid-Sept.

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Organization: IQuest Network Services X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.91.6 (AnnRMiller) says: Rusty Gates phone #: 517-348-8462; Johnson’s Pere Marquette Lodge 616-745-3972. All three places (incl. the Fly Factory) should also be able to provide you with a guide if you are unfamiliar with the water. have fun – should be plenty of salmon in the waters in mid-Sept.

There are a couple web sites you might try: http://www.novagate.com/~bscheere/bens.html (Ben’s flyfishing corner, contains info on PM, Ausable, Muskegon and Kalamazoo rivers) http://oeonline.com/~rmarsh/fishpg.html (Ricks flyfishing page, contains info on Ausable) For hatches you’ll probably see BLO, trico’s and caddis. Tight lines, Bob

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