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I love fly fishing, Also love to fish for fluke i am wondering if anyone might have a few tips on fly patterns and the best way that has a chance in hooking up into a few fluke. I mostly fish from a boat of the Ct. shore. Thanks, Nat

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I read an article once about some guy in the northwest flyfishing for halibut.  He used a heavy rod and sinking line.  The fly was a streamer pattern.  For the life of me I can’t remember which mag but it was either Fly Rod and Reel, Flyfisherman, or American Angler. It might work for fluke.  Maybe with big sculpin that mimics a creek chub? My brother and I used to trap chubs off the dock at Giant’s Neck Beach and then drift them on fluke rigs off of Rocky Neck SP.  I haven’t done that in a long, long time….. Let me know how you do…..  And thanks for bringing back a few pleasant memories —

| I love fly fishing, Also love to fish for fluke i am wondering if anyone | might have a few tips on fly patterns and the best way that has a chance | in hooking up into a few fluke. | I mostly fish from a boat of the Ct. shore. | Thanks, Nat |

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With the wife in Vail, Coloradol for a week the last week of Oct…….any info on fly fishing in that area, guides, spots, fly school and such would be most thankful……am a surf fisherman in Texas and havent been fly fishing in some years……we have a Bass Pro Shop here in Dallas Ft Worth area to get gear and such that I havent visited yet or may I say I was busy in other departments……thanks for any help….

Here are parts of a conversation that I had with someone earlier. We also fished a river up from Vail.  You go west on I-70 from Vail then turn south on the highway to Mintern (or Leadville), you’ll parallel a stream way below you in the canyon.  At about Red Cliff the stream reaches the highway and mellows out.  There’s a little picnic area we parked at and fished upstream

This stretch of water (the Eagle) was fantastic on 8/2-6, when I had the good fortune to be fishing it with a couple of friends. I used to live in Aspen and had fished the Roaring Fork and over in Frying Pan, but the fishing was never as good as the 5 days we had around Vail. I guess it helped that my freind had been guiding in the valley for about five years. I was told to pick up some emerging caddis at the local outfitter, and hardly took them off (except to do some nymphing). Caught my first cut on the Eagle just below the rod and gun club’s property off of highway 6. Anyway, I had to make a comment when I heard that I almost you on the river.

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With the wife in Vail, Coloradol for a week the last week of Oct…….any info on fly fishing in that area, guides, spots, fly school and such would be most thankful……am a surf fisherman in Texas and havent been fly fishing in some years……we have a Bass Pro Shop here in Dallas Ft Worth area to get gear and such that I havent visited yet or may I say I was busy in other departments……thanks for any help….

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Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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My favorite rivers flooded last week, so we fished bluegills and went out for draughts afterwards (BBC Pale Ale – heavy on the Cascade hops this summer).  Definitely no drought in Massachusetts this year.  It hasn’t hit 90 degrees (F) in over a month.

Raining like heck in Juneau, Alaska and it hasn’t hit 90 degrees since we’ve been keeping records.

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It is still hot in Dallas. Duh!! remember we are not all that far from Wichita Falls which has the claim of one of the most appropriately named bicycle races in a few weeks, The Hotter Than Hell 100. Lake Lewisville is still over 13 feet low. Big Dale .

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My favorite rivers flooded last week, so we fished bluegills and went out for draughts afterwards (BBC Pale Ale – heavy on the Cascade hops this summer).  Definitely no drought in Massachusetts this year.  It hasn’t hit 90 degrees (F) in over a month.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? Bill Kiene

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What is happening out your way?

Serious drought in Georgia. — Charlie…

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Wet and cool in Ontario – all of the rivers are high and we’ve had a few floods. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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What is happening out your way?

reporting from north carolina:         it’s been a great year for bermuda grass.  the golf course fairways are lush and green.  of course, i live in paradise.  in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". wayno

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Hi All, What is happening out your way?

Big Dale covered the DFW area (hotter’n hell, 11 or 12 days over 100, and dry) and it was hot (mid 90s), with a little rain in Orlando area, raining to beat all hell on the MS/AL Gulf Coast, particularly Mobile. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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Well, in Ohio farmers are expecting exceptional corn crops…….spring rains have been the pits. Of course this is smallmouth bas country which is some fine fishing.  This spring as the fishing started to heat up we began having rains.  Oh, you could find a place to fish but my usual haunts were high and muddy.  About the time you thought you could go fishing tomorrow, put a hurtin on me. So for a month I was unable to fish….and this while the wife and little girl were out of town.  By the time the water was fishable again, boom, summer was here….algae, green water the whole bit. Early morning and late evening were the ticket….I just missed out on a whole spring of fishing…….john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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Lotta Summer rain here in Maryland.  Some of the stockies are still around, as the rain has kept the rivers cool.  Temp was in the 70s yesterday.  Nebraska on the other hand is in draught and its sizzlin’ hot in the 100s.        Frank Reid Before you buy.

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden".

When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

        "climax" is about 15 miles southeast.  in the nether regions, one might say. wayno

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

Not far from Friends University, I take it? <G R

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When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

  When I lived in Nebraska and owned a 90 hp Super Cub, my flying buddy and I talked about establishing a record for the quickest time in a Super Cub on a flight from Colon, Nebraska to Athol, Kansas:) Bob Skinner   Buffalo, WY — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Ya’ll keep your pre-verted towns away from the home of my dear, sainted mother.  She lives in Virgin, UT.  As a matter of fact, I was jus’ thinkin’.  There’s this lady, lives down the street, name’s Mary.  Then again, she CAN’T be that Mary, ’cause she moved up from Las Vegas.    Virgin is the only place in the world with an actual Virgin Recycling Center.                       Frank Reid Before you buy.

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The trout in Northern California are plentiful and in great condition after four years of good rain and snowfall.  River runoff has reduced to the point where dry fly fishing is good and will remain that way for the rest of the year.  This is the year for those 100 trout days. Ernie

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Not far from Friends University, I take it?

About 75mi (or so) east of Friends University of Central Kansas<g. (not the officially sanction name of the school). — Charlie…

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   "climax" is about 15 miles southeast.  in the nether regions, one might say.

Ah, you’ve been there<g. — Charlie…

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What is happening out your way?

Its looking like drought in CO.  Streams not controlled by dam releases are running quite low and warm, at least on the eastern slope.  Hopefully at least some of the fish will survive.

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Up here in the Lakes District it has been raining off and on all summer. The last 5 days or so it’s been sunny. I haven’t been to any rivers in a couple of weeks just fishing the lake so I can’t say how they are. One plus though if the water is high it usually brings record runs for the fall.             Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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What is happening out your way?

I have only been able to fly fish our local river on two occasions in the last three months becasue it’s so muddy.  We watered the lawn only once this entire summer.  Not flood per se, but steady precipitation. Mu

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What is happening out your way? I have only been able to fly fish our local river on two occasions in the last three months becasue it’s so muddy.  We watered the lawn only once this entire summer.  Not flood per se, but steady precipitation. Mu

Today, will be (provided we don’t get rain) the  144th consecutive day without measurable precipitation in Las Vegas – Going for the record of 150 set in 1950!  So I guess you could say that we are having a drought.  BUT!  20 minutes after it starts raining, we will be in a flood.  I normally fish in Utah – about 3 hours north of here.  Creeks and ponds in that area are near or at record lows.  Fire danger is rated at Extreme+.  

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What is happening out your way? In The Southern Tier of Vermont,  We had three months of nearly

continuous rains.  The rivers and streams were quite high and not very fishable.  This has settled quite a bit in the past month and the fishing is the best that it has been in my experiance. There has been a fairly steady Sulfur hatch and #10 & #12 sulfers are highly reliable and productive. The Trout are very numerous, well distributed, and in excellent health.   They are deep, broad, and remarkably brightly colored.  They are also guite long winded, makeing for some outstandingly long fights.  Some of the jumps are spectacular. The health of the fisheries is probably due to higher than average streamflows. In fact, fishermen should be extra aware of the weather. Because of the high water table, flash flooding can be an important consideration.  You want to be sure that you leave yourself a ready escape if you are fishing in the rain. If it has rained, the rivers and streams will be high for a couple of days.  The best times to fish are when the water has cleared and receded some.  Evening is the best time, with the last hour of light being the peak time.   So, just choose a water and hang on!                                     Mike Don’t forget to let them go.

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[an ox and a moron snipped] jeff (awash in buffoon brains) — Ken Fortenberry

Jeffey, anyone who considers Bud one the "world’s great Pilsner Lagers" is obviously a few hops short of a full brew.   Let him have his little pretensions, it can’t hurt.  Anyway, at the next clave that’ll mean there’ll be more good beer available for the rest of us. Peter

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ken…emulating jesse helms? Nah, just settling back into ROFF and politely trying to suggest that perhaps I may not suffer fools as well as some might consider "polite". — Ken Fortenberry

"Polite" Hell! That’s just stupid! Even for the self- proclaimed "asshole" to call Budweiser a good Pilsner Lager is asinine. Beer is made with barley. Butt-Wiper is made with rice. Garbage! Before you buy.

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 go to Golden.

Colorado? waldo

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No, retriever. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  go to Golden. Colorado? waldo

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    In some parts of the world, the locals still hold to a bit of etiquette after a day of fly fishing.  I and a few of my Air Force friends had gone up to a tributary of the famous Tay in Scotland for a bit of atlantic salmon fishing.  The gillies took my partners upstream and let me off at a large pool to fish from a float tube.  Unfortunately, my partners had all the food an drink with them.  After 8 hours, I floated down to the stone gillie hut to rest and recupe.     When I arrived, I asked if there was anything to drink, I was dehydrated and starved.  One of the gillies had found two six packs of bud lite in cans floating in the river (I suspect left unsecured to cool by my friends). After being offered one, I was asked how I liked it.  Well, 12 oz. had gone down in about 30 seconds, but I honestly told the gillie that I hadn’t traveled all the way to England to drink crap American beer.     I was immediately reminded that "yurra naught in Angland lauddie!"  I was then asked if I wanted anything to chase the beer down with.  After nodding a parched acquiescence,  I was poured 4 (very widely spread) fingers of the local single malt in a tumbler from the pitcher on the table.  This "4" fingers was never allow to drop below 2 fingers and was immediately accompanied by extra sandwich halves that these fine gentlemen had left over in their rucks and accompanied by a couple of fine hours of debate on the state of flyfishing around the world from a working man’s level.  (As opposed to their standard customers in their Bently’s wearing their plus-fours).     The moral is, its not what you drink after you’ve done that day on the water, but who you spend that gentle time after with.  To quote one of these streamside philosophers:  "Thems wit da passion for a keen day of angling will always find a kindred soul on these waters."     (I hooked but caught no salmon that day.  In Scotland, the local tradition is if you catch salmon, you give the ghillie a bottle of scotch.)      In five months, I’ll retire after 22 years, 9 months in the USAF as a Master Sergeant.  I will miss it.  I’ve traveled the world and caught fish on a fly rod that to this day I’ve no clue what they were called.  But fishing is the great equalizer and fly fishing is the most universal of techniques.  I’ll especially treasure the people I’ve met, at times separated by the void of no common language but rejoined by the common love of our sport.  The old Korean gentleman with whom I sat on the rocks by the ocean as we converted my crawfish pattern into a passable shrimp and proceded to catch untold numbers of baracuda.  The German teenager who took me down to his "private" stream as we caught 10 in browns in a 5 foot wide creek.  The Phillipine town councilman with whom I spent countless hours pulling a tilapia like fish out of a swamp using a beetle fly.  The fine people from Mustad (like Ole Bjerke) that I met at the Partridge of Redditich Days in England, allowing me the opportunity to sit down to lunch across the table from Poul Jorgensen and his beautiful bride.  And others like Magnus Angus of Fly Fisherman and Fly Tyer magazine, the most beautiful flyfishing magazine in the world.     The famous and the common, the coarse and game angler, we all look forward to the gentle time after a day on the water, to heft one with "thems wit da passion."                                                             Frank Reid

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ken…emulating jesse helms? Nah, just settling back into ROFF and politely trying to suggest that perhaps I may not suffer fools as well as some might consider "polite". "Polite" Hell! That’s just stupid! Even for the self- proclaimed "asshole" to call Budweiser a good Pilsner Lager is asinine. Beer is made with barley. Butt-Wiper is made with rice. Garbage!

Uh oh. This thread has a Chernoble feel to it… /daytripper (headin’ for the bunker and taking my ales with!)

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Snip a fine story, every bit as refreshing as an ice-cold Coors after a day Good one Frank from another retired Frank.  My big regret is that I didn’t take up flyfishing until after I retired from the AF,  given all the vacation spots the AF payed me to visit.  I don’t want to think about the opportunities missed, blown away forever because my interests were elsewhere. Ah, but no real regrets either because that was 20 of the best years of my life…and the subsequent 30 years ain’t been bad either.  If you’re new to ROFF, welcome, if a long time lurker, welcome from the rest of us semi-lurkers. You must have some interesting stories to relate to us, please do, as I fear the shack-nasties have set in *big time* in this group. Besides, it’s 5 degrees outside my door right now, my fishin’ gear is gathering dust in the corner, and it seems like forever till ice-out. Frank Church Elkhart, IN USAF RETIRED    The famous and the common, the coarse and game angler, we all look forward to the gentle time after a day on the water, to heft one with "thems wit da passion."                                                            Frank Reid

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The Mona Lisa is a classic example of a portrait done well. One can say that portraits are not my cup of tea and that I’m not particularly fond of portrait painting. One cannot say that the Mona Lisa is a bad portrait. Catch my drift ? — Ken Fortenberry- known to drink Budweiser after FLYFISHING

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budweiser is a classic example of a beer done bad… One can (easily) say that budweiser (bad beer) is not my cup of tea… i’m not particularly fond of budweiser… One can easily say budweiser is a bad beer… Catch my drift? jeff – known to drink anything other than budweiser before and after         flyfishing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Mona Lisa is a classic example of a portrait done well. One can say that portraits are not my cup of tea and that I’m not particularly fond of portrait painting. One cannot say that the Mona Lisa is a bad portrait. Catch my drift ? — Ken Fortenberry- known to drink Budweiser after FLYFISHING

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The Mona Lisa is a classic example of a portrait done well. One can say that portraits are not my cup of tea and that I’m not particularly fond of portrait painting. One cannot say that the Mona Lisa is a bad portrait. Catch my drift ? yeah, you been drinkin’ buds with asadi waldo

TWEEEEEET! There’s a flag on the play! You didn’t use any OT words!! — Ezflyfish.com:  http://www.ezflyfish.com

Ooops! OK – you snuck by on a technicality. We’ll pick up the flag ;^)

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budweiser is a classic example of a beer done bad…

Not true, my ignorant redneck friend. Budweiser is, as a matter of fact, one of the world’s best Pilsner Lagers. It’s a little less hoppy than its eponymous predecessor from Czechoslovakia, but that’s by design. The hops are indeed real hops, not hop extract, and Budweiser is lagered for at least 32 days. One can easily say budweiser is a bad beer…

If one wishes to expose oneself as a brainwashed buffoon who doesn’t know shit from shinola about beer. — Ken Fortenberry

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Not true, my ignorant redneck friend. Budweiser is, as a matter of fact, one of the world’s best Pilsner Lagers.

there’s an oxymoron bulging in that sentence, my effete asshole pal…but you probably chose the wrong one… It’s a little less hoppy than its eponymous predecessor from Czechoslovakia, but that’s by design. The hops are indeed real hops, not hop extract, and Budweiser is lagered for at least 32 days.

nouveaux beer? One can easily say budweiser is a bad beer… If one wishes to expose oneself as a brainwashed buffoon who doesn’t know shit from shinola about beer.

"shit from shinola"…now there’s a real beer drinker’s comment!! jeff (awash in buffoon brains) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Ken Fortenberry

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"Polite" Hell! That’s just stupid! Even for the self- proclaimed "asshole" to call Budweiser a good Pilsner Lager is asinine. Beer is made with barley. Butt-Wiper is made with rice. Garbage!

Go fish. — Ken Fortenberry

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Mona Lisa is a classic example of a portrait done well. One can say that portraits are not my cup of tea and that I’m not particularly fond of portrait painting. One cannot say that the Mona Lisa is a bad portrait. Catch my drift ? yeah, you been drinkin’ buds with asadi waldo TWEEEEEET! There’s a flag on the play! You didn’t use any OT words!! — Ezflyfish.com:  http://www.ezflyfish.com Ooops! OK – you snuck by on a technicality. We’ll pick up the flag ;^)

ok, i’ve been flagged… how ’bout.. thar once was a gal, mona lisa from the lovely town of pisa all her suitors in town always wore a frown cuz they couldn’t get a pisa lisa i know…go sit on the bench. waldo, speakin of football… go jags, go bucs!

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ken…emulating jesse helms? jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jeffey, anyone who considers Bud one the "world’s great Pilsner Lagers" is obviously a few hops short of a full brew. Yeah, yeah. Do your homework. When you’ve read enough about beer to be in the "almost has a clue" category you will realize that Budweiser is in fact one of the world’s finest Pilsner Lagers. Golden, if you actually do deign to read a book on the subject instead of pontificating like an ignoramus, go to Golden. — Ken Fortenberry

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ken…emulating jesse helms?

Nah, just settling back into ROFF and politely trying to suggest that perhaps I may not suffer fools as well as some might consider "polite". — Ken Fortenberry

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The Mona Lisa is a classic example of a portrait done well. One can say that portraits are not my cup of tea and that I’m not particularly fond of portrait painting. One cannot say that the Mona Lisa is a bad portrait. Catch my drift ?

That Budweiser smells like 450 year old French paint and is impossible to drink, even after FLYFISHING….? R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Ken Fortenberry- known to drink Budweiser after FLYFISHING

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The Mona Lisa is a classic example of a portrait done well. One can say that portraits are not my cup of tea and that I’m not particularly fond of portrait painting. One cannot say that the Mona Lisa is a bad portrait. Catch my drift ?

yeah, you been drinkin’ buds with asadi waldo — Ezflyfish.com:  http://www.ezflyfish.com http://auctions.yahoo.com/booth/ezflyfish_com Used, Rare, & Out-of-Print Books: http://users.boone.net/wgw/brbg.html

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Damn Jeff, you gonna let him call you a "hoppy eponymous ignorant redneck brainwashed buffoon who expose oneself and doesn’t know shit from shinola." Waldo

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Jeffey, anyone who considers Bud one the "world’s great Pilsner Lagers" is obviously a few hops short of a full brew.  

Yeah, yeah. Do your homework. When you’ve read enough about beer to be in the "almost has a clue" category you will realize that Budweiser is in fact one of the world’s finest Pilsner Lagers. Golden, if you actually do deign to read a book on the subject instead of pontificating like an ignoramus, go to Golden. — Ken Fortenberry

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why should they…budweiser’s already done it! (make a bad beer, that is…for the hoppy eponymous among us)… jeff

I know, I know. AB does make bad beer. I myself have tasted it. It’s drek. It comes from satellite breweries in Florida and Virginia. What can I tell ya. Buy your Bud from St. Louis and check the date. — Ken Fortenberry

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…does that mean you’ll be bringin the sleemans? jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [an ox and a moron snipped] jeff (awash in buffoon brains) — Ken Fortenberry Jeffey, anyone who considers Bud one the "world’s great Pilsner Lagers" is obviously a few hops short of a full brew.   Let him have his little pretensions, it can’t hurt.  Anyway, at the next clave that’ll mean there’ll be more good beer available for the rest of us. Peter

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jeff (awash in buffoon brains)

Exactly. Brainwashed, bamfoozled and full of yuppie pretense. Anything OTHER must be GOOD. Jump on the mindless bandwagon, follow the trend. I like ales. In the fall I’ll drink a wheat beer. I enjoy a good many good beers from Belgium, Germany and the Czech Republic. None of which will ever make Budweiser a bad beer. — Ken Fortenberry

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I like ales. In the fall I’ll drink a wheat beer. I enjoy a good many good beers from Belgium, Germany and the Czech Republic. None of which will ever make Budweiser a bad beer.

to quote a self-proclaimed sage: "EXACTLY"!!  why should they…budweiser’s already done it! (make a bad beer, that is…for the hoppy eponymous among us)… jeff

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um…no…but it is kinda cute, ain’t it?  i mean, when i go to the next monthly meeting of the HEIRBB (herby’s, for the acronymically challenged), i’d really be scorned if i didn’t recognize the shinola… jeff (in stecore veritas) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Damn Jeff, you gonna let him call you a "hoppy eponymous ignorant redneck brainwashed buffoon who expose oneself and doesn’t know shit from shinola." Waldo

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Has anyone had the chance to use these rods before?  I saw them at the Flyfishing Retailers Expo in Saltlake City and was quite impressed with them.  They seem really good looking, made in Florida by a new company. Components and quality seems to belie the fact that they are only priced around $100-200!  I’m going to get one to try out and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them.  I’m not endorsing or promoting them or am anyway associated with them.  Enuf said! Before you buy.

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They seem really good looking, made in Florida by a new company. Components and quality seems to belie the fact that they are only priced around $100-200!  I’m going to get one to try out and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them.  I’m not endorsing or promoting them or am anyway associated with them.

To answer your question I have not heard of them, but now I have a question. Do you have a contact for the company or the ownership of this company, I have heard that len codella’s son was involved in a new graphite rod co. Len used to be with T&T who once had a line of rods called the Heritage series which they dropped, I think about the time Len left. If this is Len’s son’s company and if they are based on the old Heritage action I’m gonna have to buy a few. Thanks Wayne Knight (remove nospam to respond via mail) Expert in the creation of  wind knots and tailing loops.

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A member of my TU chapter has been selling those Heritage rods.  I don’t know much about where they’re from (maybe Korean blanks?) but I liked the feel of them when we had a chance to try them out last spring.  We bought a bunch of them to replace the aging Cortlands we use in our flycasting classes – very good value.  We’re also going to raffle off a couple this year for fundraisers. –Stan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone had the chance to use these rods before?  I saw them at the Flyfishing Retailers Expo in Saltlake City and was quite impressed with them.  They seem really good looking, made in Florida by a new company. Components and quality seems to belie the fact that they are only priced around $100-200!  I’m going to get one to try out and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them.  I’m not endorsing or promoting them or am anyway associated with them.  Enuf said!

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Cool! I will be calling them about buying a few.  I will keep you all updated.  This much I was told when I talked to them at the convention, they are somehow in league with Teton/Tioga folks, and that they roll their own blanks and are based in Florida.  They have only apparently been in business for 9 months and are currently trying to buuld up an inventory.  Presently they are unable to keep up with demand..or so I’ve been told. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A member of my TU chapter has been selling those Heritage rods.  I don’t know much about where they’re from (maybe Korean blanks?) but I liked the feel of them when we had a chance to try them out last spring.  We bought a bunch of them to replace the aging Cortlands we use in our flycasting classes – very good value.  We’re also going to raffle off a couple this year for fundraisers. –Stan Has anyone had the chance to use these rods before?  I saw them at the Flyfishing Retailers Expo in Saltlake City and was quite impressed with them.  They seem really good looking, made in Florida by a new company. Components and quality seems to belie the fact that they are only priced around $100-200!  I’m going to get one to try out and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them.  I’m not endorsing or promoting them or am anyway associated with them.  Enuf said!

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I’m interested in learning more. Do you have a contact, telephone #, City? Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cool! I will be calling them about buying a few.  I will keep you all updated.  This much I was told when I talked to them at the convention, they are somehow in league with Teton/Tioga folks, and that they roll their own blanks and are based in Florida.  They have only apparently been in business for 9 months and are currently trying to buuld up an inventory.  Presently they are unable to keep up with demand..or so I’ve been told. A member of my TU chapter has been selling those Heritage rods.  I don’t know much about where they’re from (maybe Korean blanks?) but I liked the feel of them when we had a chance to try them out last spring.  We bought a bunch of them to replace the aging Cortlands we use in our flycasting classes – very good value.  We’re also going to raffle off a couple this year for fundraisers. –Stan Has anyone had the chance to use these rods before?  I saw them at the Flyfishing Retailers Expo in Saltlake City and was quite impressed with them.  They seem really good looking, made in Florida by a new company. Components and quality seems to belie the fact that they are only priced around $100-200!  I’m going to get one to try out and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them.  I’m not endorsing or promoting them or am anyway associated with them.  Enuf said! Before you buy.

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Well, i just spoke to Phil who was the older gentleman I met at the show.  He said that they are at the moment unable to keep up with the orders and it’ll be at least two mths before he’s caught up.  They can only make about 500 rods a week at the moment.  He is going to try to get me a 6wt and an 8 wt to test out.  They also have spey rods and their travel rods won’t be available till next year. I did manage to get more info about the rods: They don’t have the warranties that Redington has, nor do they come with fancy tubes and cases.  Most of the rods are black on black, stainless SIC stripping guides, stainless snake guides, aluminum reel seats on the saltwater models, wood on the others.  Nice finish on the rods in my opinion. Phil also said that for those of you who are interested, your best bet is to contact your nearest Teton/Tioga dealer abt the rods. I’ll let you all know when I get the rods. Before you buy.

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Hope the season is fishing well for all!  The long winter here in Minnesota is finally a memmory.  The fishing has been great.  Going to visit Mom who is now living in Nova Scotia, Canada.  How is the fly fishing there.  Mid August.  Striped bass?  Bluefish?  Salmon? Should I pack the fly gear or dust off the surf casting rig?  Any input would be great.  Any questions about Minn/ western Wisconsin? Good fishing!

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The best spot in Nova Scotia is the Margaree Valley, and they are having some trouble there. Last fall we stayed at the Big Intervale Salmon Camp, in Cape Breton Nova Scotia, and cannot say enough great things about it. Absolutely wonderful host…Bill Davison (mum is head chef), but not many bites. Bill is very knowledgeable about the situation in Nova Scotia and I would be glad to track down a number at the lodge for you…we have something around here somewhere…also check out the Saint Mary’s River area on the Eastern Shore of the province…and also what might be happening in New Brunswick… Hope the season is fishing well for all!  The long winter here in Minnesota is finally a memmory.  The fishing has been great.  Going to visit Mom who is now living in Nova Scotia, Canada.  How is the fly fishing there.  Mid August.  Striped bass?  Bluefish?  Salmon? Should I pack the fly gear or dust off the surf casting rig?  Any input would be great.  Any questions about Minn/ western Wisconsin? Good fishing!

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 I have tryed to post a message several times & nothing seems to show-up. Obviously I do not understand how to post. So If anyone reads this, please explain how to do so… The "Post New Article" icon does not yield any results ? Thanks New

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I have tryed to post a message several times & nothing seems to show-up. Obviously I do not understand how to post. So If anyone reads this, please explain how to do so… The "Post New Article" icon does not yield any results ?

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Dave, Thanks for the information, I am new to this but finally think have it figured-out. Gail

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Anybody knows where to get good flyfishing oriented programs? Thanks

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Hi, My FlyFish software (DOS) can be downloaded from ftp.geo.mtu.edu by connecting in as anonymous, and changing directory to /pub/fishing/Software/dos. There are two files flyfish.txt and flyfish.exe, please read the flyfish.txt for installation instructions, one thing I forgot to mention was that it must be installed as a top level directory, preferably C: Have fun and let me know what you think, I am working on windows versions at the moment, Regards Chris Cox

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I have three upcoming trips this spring: New Orleans in March, Miami in May, and North Carolina in July. I am looking for suggestions for

I guess it is time for a Keys, Bonefish, and Miami FAQ.. Here are some posts others have found useful. Have fun, and mail me if you have further questions…  Alan Barrow  km4ba         | If a little knowledge….. As if Santa wasn’t good enough to me, I found out that I have business in Ft. Lauderdale in January. It looks like a two hour drive down to the end of the Florida peninsula according to my atlas, and I plan on scamming a couple of extra days to cast for bonefish.

I would allow a little extra time, it can take longer depending on traffic. The only way in or out of the keys is US-1, and it is mostly 2 lane for miles. (You can take card sound road for a nice alternate route coming back. About the same time, and you see a different part of N Key Largo.) I am a steelheader from Seattle who knows NOTHING< about bonefish except that my 8wt rpl will work, and the flies under the heading "bonefish" are small shrimpy weighted flies.

You ought to be ok, use as much of a WF line as you have. Make sure you have as much backing as your reel will hold. Nevertheless, the thought of ‘wading the flats’ wearing shorts in January is too much to resist for someone from latitude 47.

And you can do it, you just have to be a bit trickier during winter time. The bonefish are still there, they just will not come onto the flats until the water warms up. I would plan on fishing mid-day if the night time temp is below 70. The flats will be too cold in the AM, but will warm up. I am groveling for information! (fishing dates: Jan 14th – 16th)

Here are some posts I have made earlier. Not all will be relevant, but most info should be useful. I grew up down there, and spend 2-3 weeks a year flats fishing in the upper Keys. My brother works in Key Largo and Key West about half of the time, and he gets me current fishing reports. Both he and I have flats boats, and are into flyfishing for bonefish and tarpon. Have fun! Call me if you have questions… 404/850-2644  Alan Barrow  km4ba         | If a little knowledge….. Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing Some friends and I, serious fly fisherman all, are thinking about going to the Florida Keys to do some bonefishing (and maybe tarpon, permit, etc.)  this winter.  Never having done this before, I have scads of questions: * Is end of December/beginning of January a good time?

Bones are there year round. They will not come up onto the flats if the water temp is too cold. Also wind is more likely, and impacts the number of "fishable" (sight fishing) days. However, the largest bonefish are usually caught in winter. I have hooked (not landed) very big bonefish during XMAS trips last year. Tarpon migrate, and are not in the Keys in large quantities until May/June. There are year round Tarpon spots in the Keys ( and Miami) but it is usually deep water. (Bridges/channels, etc) I consider June/July the best time all around for fishing in the Keys. I still fish year all seasons, because even "off season" the fishing is better than most places I know. But for fly fisherman, winter may be less desirable. Redfish are available year round, as are sharks and barracudas. Many fly types are sight fishing for big ‘Cudas during winter when it the flats are too cold for bonefish. * Where are the good spots in the keys?  Should we try Grand Bahama or  Belize instead?

My conclusion is that if you want numbers and lot’s of action, hit the bahamas, Christmas Island (near Hawaii), or costa rica. However, If you want big fish on a regular basis, Miami down to Marathon for bonefish is hard to beat. For Tarpon, Boca Grande pass in June is fantastic. Not the same as sight fishing the flats edges for tarpon in the Keys, but killer in a different fashion. Tarpon are all around florida mid year, so there are many good places for them. The keys are ideal due to: Big Bonefish, good tarpon, great Permit, OK redfish, great trout, great dolphin close in (the fish). The water is great for sight fishing in the Keys. Other parts of Fla are less "clear". The Bahamas are tough to beat in water clarity. * Know any good guides/outfitters?

I have not used a guide for 3 years, but recommend using one until you become proficient in finding fish yourself. Even then, guides will put you onto more fish. * Will I need my own equipment or can I rent?

I have not seen much rental equipment. If you have a guide, he will provide top notch equipment. I hope you have a good time! Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing I will be on Islamorada from February 10-17 of this year.  I plan to do some inshore fishing, and am wondering if this is a particularly "hot" time for specific fish. Can anyone give me some help? I’ll be

Entirely dependant on water temperature. (Wind may also be an issue) Some of the largest bonefish are caught in "winter" (dec-feb). You may also go all day without seeing a fish on a flat. A guide is a big win here. They may know when/where fish may make an appearence. We have found that "normal" behavior does not apply. (normal for bonefish is: fish move on flat with low incoming tide.) Problem is that with colder water temp, at may be midday before the water warms up enough. Thus traditional early morning/late evening "best times" may not apply. Barracuda are found (and fished for) on the flats in the winter. Any other time, these guys are almost impossible to catch. (Except when a big bonefish is about to nail your shrimp/lure) Also sharks on the flats can be fun. Tarpon are pretty much somewhere else, except for a few "bridge" types that hang around year round. Redfish and trout in the backcountry (Fla Bay, as opposed to the Atlantic) should also be a good option. (Not as exciting as bonefish, but still pretty good) I believe offshore is pretty good this time of year. (Sailfish, grouper, Kings, snapper, etc) out for a full day, and would like to spend about half the day fishing purely for sport (i.e. tarpon, bonefish, maybe permit) and half the day fishing for something I can cook up afterwards. Is this possible?

Bonefish or permit then hit backcountry for redfish or trout. I have limited out on big trout within 30 min skiff ride from Islamorada. (By the way, you will be "in" Islamorada, the city. You will be "on" upper or lower matacumbe. Just a "nit" :- ) Any suggestions would be appreciated. I’d like to call up and reserve a guide ahead of time.

We had good luck with Jamie Brodie, who booked out of Holiday Isle. I could get other names from Fla Sportsman if needed. Secondly, since I can’t afford a guide every day I’m there, but would like to do some fishing most of the days I’m there, I’m wondering if anyone can give me advice about wading/shore fishing. I’ll cast for

This is how we got started. Harry Harris park up in key largo (20 min N of Islamorada) is a good flat to wade for bonefish. Also flats off the bridges at shell and indian key ( Just S of Islamorada. ) are good. If you see brown bottom that you can get too from your hotel, etc. I would give it a try. Wear tennis shoes, or booties. (I use "aquasox" as well) Be aware of stingrays. (Some say to shuffle. I do if I cannot see the bottom very clearly. I have found if the bottom is hard enough to wade, the stingrays do not bury themselves. They are also very spooky, and will avoid you.) Also bridge fishing all along that area is good. You can also rent a boat. (not cheap, but cheaper than a guide.) Plan on using it mainly to get too flats. Do not try to take it on the flats, as you will get stuck unless it is very high tide. You will not have a pole anyway. Even with our flat’s boats, we wade alot. (during low tide) anything, I just don’t know what’s there to cast to, or what to cast to whatever is there (to state a simple point in a fairly unruly way).

On the flats you will see:         stingrays- do not try to catch them. Look for bonefish/jack         following them. try to cast on the back of any stingray you see.         Many times you will not see the fish following them. Best sign         that bonefish are on the flats. Stingrays are your friend.         Bonefish- swim most in straight lines. best case is to find them         tailing in low water. (why wading is good). You may see one or a         dozen. Very spooky. Cast in front of them, let them swim up on         your lure/bait.         Permit- The most spooky. look for "sickle" fin sticking out of         water.         Baracuda- usually loitering around. Moving very slowly, then         disappears faster than your eye can follow. If you see a fish,         and it does not move 5-10 feet in a few seconds, then it is probably         a barracuda. cast past it 10 feet in front of it. reel as fast         as you can. They strike instinctively.         Jack- Usually you do not see them, but catch them by accident.         can get pretty big, fights almost as good as a bonefish. (Just         missing the 200 yd runs.)         Sharks- 2-5′ nurse, lemon,

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I have three upcoming trips this spring: New Orleans in March, Miami in May, and North Carolina in July. I am looking for suggestions for saltwater flyfishing in these places. If you can recommend guides or

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I have a baitcasting technique question. I have been a fly fisherman for some time.  I recently added spinning gear and lakes to my fishing portfolio and have REALLY enjoyed it! This xmas I moved to a baitcasting reel (Inexpensive Abu Garcia reel available via Cabelas), and a nice IM7 Cabelas baitcasting rod. I have no baitcasting fishermen friends.  So, I am on my own. I read the instructions and started practicing casting.  Backlash city. All the time.  One cast — then 30 minutes of fusing — then cutting of line and one more cast…and so on. I want to get this, but think I must be misinterpreting something. The instructions with my reel tell me to adjust the manual brake and then the magnetic brake so the lure will move about 10 inches when I jiggle the rod.  Ok…I can do that. But, the question is….."what is the role of your thumb when you are casting.  That is, do you use your thumb to lightly put pressure on the reel/line while you are casting?  Or, do you take your thumb completely away while the lure is in the air and only use your thumb to suddenly brake when the cast hits water or whatever?  Are these mechanical brakes supposed to do the job themselves?  Or, am I to actively use my thumb the hole time the cast in in progress? HELP I know this is a stupid question, but I have no baitcasting gurus around here who can help me.  My only advice so far from my other fishing buddies is to go back to my spinning gear.

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Quoting johng from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing  jo Path:  jonews1.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!news2.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!e  jo Organization: Duke’s Fuqua School of Business  jo Lines: 28  jo NNTP-Posting-Host: piscator.fsb.duke.edu  jo X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.3  jo I read the instructions and started practicing casting.  Backlash city.  jo All the time.  One cast — then 30 minutes of fusing — then cutting of  jo line and one more cast…and so on. Start out with easy lob type casts, until you get your hand to eye coordination down pat. The thumb is used primarily when you see the lure touch down, at this point the reel is still spinning, it doesn’t know that the lure isn’t still going.  jo I want to get this, but think I must be misinterpreting something.  jo The instructions with my reel tell me to adjust the manual brake and  jo then the magnetic brake so the lure will move about 10 inches when I  jo jiggle the rod.  Ok…I can do that. While you are learning I would suggest you turn the magnets all the way up and tighten the manual brake a little more, until you get used to it. Also don’t cast INTO the wind, that will cause problems every time. You may also want to cast a heavier lure while you are learning, it helps.  jo But, the question is….."what is the role of your thumb when you  jo are casting.  That is, do you use your thumb to lightly put pressure on  jo the reel/line while you are casting?  Or, do you take your thumb  jocompletely away while the lure is in the air and only use your thumb  joto suddenly brake when the cast hits water or whatever? Its really a little of both, as you gain experience you will learn to "feather" your cast with your thumb, and then stop the reel when the lure reaches the target.  jo Are these  jomechanical brakes supposed to do the job themselves?  Or, am I to  joactively use my thumb the hole time the cast in in progress? See above.  jo HELP I know this is a stupid question, but I have no baitcasting  jogurus around here who can help me.  My only advice so far from my  joother fishing buddies is to go back to my spinning gear. Also if its cold out the line will stiffen up and cause some problems. Remember to keep the handles up and make easy casts to start with. Once you get used to it you’ll wonder why you didn’t do it a long time ago…<G BTW: What model reel? Some cheapies will never cast well. Its not a stupid question, at all, its just a learning process. Good luck. Greg….

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I find that if you cast as far as you can then strip out a small amount of line add a small strip of tape <not very sticky tape can keep your backlashes from going deep down into the spool and causing you a lot of problems. The tape will come off if you happen on that BIG DAWG! and he pulls out the line past the tape.   but the best thing to do is practice practice practice and when you see that jig hit the water put the brakes on .

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For years I’ve done this.  hold the rod straight out in front of you. tighten the center nob on the LEFT hand side of the real.  This is not the magnetic anti- backlash on the Right hand side of the reel.  Hit the free spool button or thumbbar release, as if you were getting ready to cast.  Turn the LEFT hand nob Away from you (loosen) just until the weight on the end of your line starts dropping.  try casting.  If you have a magnetic anti-backlash on the right hand side, you may then loosen the LEFT hand nob a little more and compensate as needed with the magnetic adjustment.  this works fine on reels without a mag helper, but you will be able to achieve more distance by fine tuning if you have a mag adjustment.  Do this whenever you switch to a different weight. Andy S.

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: I have a baitcasting technique question. : I read the instructions and started practicing casting.  Backlash city. : All the time.  One cast — then 30 minutes of fusing — then cutting of : line and one more cast…and so on. Well, if it’s any comfort that’s how I spent my first day of practice. The trick on the thumb is to control the speed of the reel given a particular line, the rigging weight, and the wind. My advice: keep gentle pressure at all times and try and slow the cast gradually so that your lure/bait drops majestically where you want it to go. It’ll beome second nature, I promise. Then, once it is second nature, you’ll never have a backlash again. What you get then are called professional overcasts. <g Here’s a tip. Reel off enough line to cover the distance you intend to be casting. Put a strip of tape across the line on the reel at that point. Any backlash will at least stop at the tape.

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I agree with practicing at home, however, when I first picked up a baitcaster, I was told that if you could cast a 1/4 oz. plug without overrun and with accuracy, you have won half of the battle.  Of course, your rod would have to be able to throw a 1/4 oz. plug (ie: be rated for it).  I have found that once I learned this, I not only learned the technique, but gained confidence as well.  I was even throwing rooster tails with my reels and catching fish.   One more thing, be sure to keep your spool control as tight as you can when first practicing.  I also think that casting the 1/4 oz. plug let me loosen the spool more after while and I was able to throw farther and with reasonable accuracy.  But this was only after a few weeks of practice.  Try it.  Just my $0.02. Just be patient and practice at home, not on the water. I suggest a lure weight of at least 1/2 ounce for starters with a rod designed for lures from 1/4 – 3/4 ounces.  The heavier the lure the easier it is to cast without backlash. I would also suggest a line rated at no more than 12 pound test, larger line backlashes easier.  Good luck and trust me, the practice is well worth it.

– Andrew R. Gherna                 |   Eastern Illinois University      |  "Keep them mowing blades sharp"

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