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Seeking infro. on salt water fly-fishing in the DR, thankx in advance, Stan

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J R Hartley is the person to ask

Seeking infro. on salt water fly-fishing in the DR, thankx in advance, Stan

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HA,HA Cougar Ric! How many years have you been waiting to say that?? — –Sent via BritishExpats Forums: http://britishexpats.com

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lol, i couldn’t resist it! — Tune into my radio station. Playing the best in rock 24 hours a day! http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=cougar_ric – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HA,HA Cougar Ric! How many years have you been waiting to say that?? — –Sent via BritishExpats Forums: http://britishexpats.com

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I have followed this newsgroup for quite awhile now and some of you guys that complain the most about spaming always promote your own web site, now what is this??? Is this spaming???  When I post something here or anywhere else I do not put my web address down and I have not told anybody here or any other board that I am selling Bastard Bamboo, St.Croix , GLoomis, Eastbranch rods, Phillipson, Goodwin & Grangers Heddons, Southbends, H&I, Montagues, Orvis, or any other product I sell… When I posted that I really liked the Black Raven I was telling the truth about the rod.. I was really impressed with this rod.. AIt casted real smooth..When I go fly fishing it is adventure for me because I am in a wheelchair and I always have a hand full of rods to fish with and I usually fish with all the rods I take fishing with me, and I have to admit Banboo Flyrods are the funniest to fish with..  Actually I just started flyfishing and I caught my first trout on an Bamboo Flyrod, Whoops it was a Bastard  flyrod maybe this is an ilegal word here, but I really dont care what is an ilegal word..   I am really sorry if I am spaming about my Heddons,Phillipsons,Southbends,ETC..   Come on guys forget the past and lets jsut talk about fishing and if that Word Bastard come up just let it go, because a Bastard can catch fish just like an Orvis rod can catch fish..  Come on Guys lets just caych some fish on your favorite rod and your favorite fly…   Later dave

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        (blah blah blah)  Come on Guys lets just caych some fish on your favorite rod and your favorite fly…   Later dave

        dave, just go mix another drink, and forget about it.         wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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[snipped] Dave, it’s been explained to you already, but once more for emphasis: you’d never been seen here before, and suddenly a post from out of nowhere appears, overflowing with ebullient praise for a rod built by someone that had thoroughly worn out his welcome here. And adding the bit about "buying ten of them" was like waving a red flag in the face of many folks here. Thus the reaction. But it appears that those same folks might owe you an apology… [el snippo] I have to admit Banboo Flyrods are the funniest to fish with..

LOL! Welll…..No comment ;^) Stick around, Dave. /daytripper

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I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else. Thank You

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I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else. Thank You

Phooey. It’s an election year, politics is on our minds and we speak our minds. (Those of us that actually HAVE minds, anyway.:-) Tell that large, hairy, mustachioed man wearing the fishnet stockings and high heels who forces you to read political posts to put down the cat-o’-nine-tails and get back to work on the heirheads debate strategy. (Unless you really like that sort of thing.) — Ken Fortenberry

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I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else.

I wish I was young, rich and attractive. Thank *you*. — Charlie…

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I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else. Thank You

Yeah, wish in one hand and shit in the other.  Let us know which one fills up faster. Wolfgang Director, ROFF Office of Research

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I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else. Thank You

I wish people would quit reading what they don’t want to, so there you go…  I think we are about equal in our chances of getting our wishes. HTH? You’re Welcome R (who knows Slim just stole None’s horse, and is border-bound…)

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I like your new word, spaming. Maybe spame is a good name for off topic posts! Personnally, I’ve been very pleased that recently people have put "off topic" posts under appropriate headers.  They are very easy to ignore if you’re not interested. What bothers me is when you click on a fishing related subject line and you get garbage. Willi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else. Thank You

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Yeah, wish in one hand and shit in the other.  Let us know which one fills up faster.

My grandma always said wish in one hand, shit in the other… and see which weighs more. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

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I wish people would stop wishing, as it is very difficult to prove whether one’s wish actually came to fruition or not! — Opie  –I *hope* this doesn’t piss the wrong people off– – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I like your new word, spaming. Maybe spame is a good name for off topic posts! Personnally, I’ve been very pleased that recently people have put "off topic" posts under appropriate headers.  They are very easy to ignore if you’re not interested. What bothers me is when you click on a fishing related subject line and you get garbage. Willi I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else. Thank You

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I wish people would stop wishing, as it is very difficult to prove whether one’s wish actually came to fruition or not!

I can tell you I keep closing my eyes and clicking my heels but somehow I keep getting stuck in Kansas. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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I can tell you I keep closing my eyes and clicking my heels but somehow I keep getting stuck in Kansas.

Ah, that’s the problem: that only works to get you back *to* Kansas, you need a tornado to get you out<g. — Charlie…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else. Thank You Phooey. It’s an election year, politics is on our minds and we speak our minds. (Those of us that actually HAVE minds, anyway.:-) Tell that large, hairy, mustachioed man wearing the fishnet stockings and high heels who forces you to read political posts to put down the cat-o’-nine-tails and get back to work on the heirheads debate strategy. (Unless you really like that sort of thing.)

When did Louie grow a mustache? /daytripper (OK, now I gotta run and hide. Buh byeeeeeee! ;^)

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R wrote snip::I wish people would quit reading what they don’t want to, so there you go…

The only way to get the damn thing to go away is to hit read msg. Big Dale

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It is about fishing.  If big oil get’s their empty suit in the White House look forward to clear cuts,  cynaide leach mines,  oil spills in ANWF and all imaginable kinds of hell loosed upon the earth.  The forces of greed want your fishing hole. BJC – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else. Thank You

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Yeah, wish in one hand and shit in the other.  Let us know which one fills up faster. My grandma always said wish in one hand, shit in the other… and see which weighs more.

My kinda grandma!  Never got to know any of my own.  Can I borrow yours some time? Wolfgang over the river and through the woods

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I wish that people in this newsgroup would keep their political spaming somewhere else.

I wish I had a better benefits package, a bigger apartment, three redheaded Tri-Delt mistresses, and a beer. We all got needs, pal. You’re welcome. "My father said to be strong, that a good man could never do wrong  in a dream I had last night in America" -Los Lobos

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Why, do they not make Tri-Delts anymore, or was there only one window in time when they were universally considered desirable?  I know in my undergraduate days (69-73) they were thought (and I believe thought themselves) hotter than heat. Me, I never saw it:  preferred hippy girls in peasant shirts and jeans. BTW, are we allowed to talk about women here, or only politics? JR — To reply, remove the Qs from the address above – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     "Tri-Delts" gives your approximate age away. [an assumption, but held until informed.] (MC’s comment snipped for space) I wish I had a better benefits package, a bigger apartment, three redheaded Tri-Delt mistresses, and a beer. We all got needs, pal.

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     I don’t know, it seems odd to be fixated on redheads, but even more outr

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Oh, use them, most likely, or as he did, let friends use them when they visit. Sorry, but they aren’t for sale right now, and a dealer that has been helping sort through all this has "dibs" on anything we do sell.  He has suggested that the collection would make the basis of a book, and until we get all this sorted out, we are keeping it all together (well, at least not selling anything). R

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How come you have some in the packaging?   . . .john My Grandfather kept them around for others to use, gifts, etc.  I don’t know how many total, as I’m still gathering, but I’ve got a half-dozen here.  There were a few "used" that I’ve played with, and they actually seem to be decent rods.  A pretty well-known dealer said he, and some of his customers, think so as well, if that means anything. TC, R They don’t have weights (at least marked on rod, packing, label, anywhere), just lengths, but they are "Professional" "Kwik Taper" if that tells you anything. TC, R

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They don’t have weights (at least marked on rod, packing, label, anywhere), just lengths, but they are "Professional" "Kwik Taper" if that tells you anything. TC, R

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How come you have some in the packaging?   . . .john

My Grandfather kept them around for others to use, gifts, etc.  I don’t know how many total, as I’m still gathering, but I’ve got a half-dozen here.  There were a few "used" that I’ve played with, and they actually seem to be decent rods.  A pretty well-known dealer said he, and some of his customers, think so as well, if that means anything. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They don’t have weights (at least marked on rod, packing, label, anywhere), just lengths, but they are "Professional" "Kwik Taper" if that tells you anything. TC, R

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How come you have some in the packaging?   . . .john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They don’t have weights (at least marked on rod, packing, label, anywhere), just lengths, but they are "Professional" "Kwik Taper" if that tells you anything. TC, R

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Amen. Paul from Peterborough, NH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The idea is to figure out where Mr. Fish is hiding and what he wants to eat, not to look better than the other guy on the stream. (And if you still want to raise high the Orvis flag, well, you’re probably old enough to decide these things for yourself.) Absolutely true!  I own rods ranging from a $40.00 Cortland I keep in my car all the time, to an Orvis Battenkill cane rod. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that, as far as catching fish is concerned, next to the reel, the rod is the least important item I carry. True, a rod that suits your casting style is a lot more pleasant to use, but such a rod need not be prohibitively expensive. My $40.00 Cortland 8′ /5wt will do 90% of what my similar Sage will do at 1/10 the price, and because it is with me all the time, It probably outfishes the Sage aver the course of the season. The most important thing a fly fisherman takes to the stream with him is the stuff that resides between his ears. Common sense, knowledge of the quarry, and proper presentation are the things that catch fish. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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It’s the rod that works well for whatever you happen to be trying to do that afternoon.

It’s my 9′ 5wt sage RP…..love at first cast Flyfish

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The idea is to figure out where Mr. Fish is hiding and what he wants to eat, not to look better than the other guy on the stream. (And if you still want to raise high the Orvis flag, well, you’re probably old enough to decide these things for yourself.) Absolutely true!  I own rods ranging from a $40.00 Cortland I keep in my car all the time, to an Orvis Battenkill cane rod. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that, as far as catching fish is concerned, next to the reel, the rod is the least important item I carry. True, a rod that suits your casting style is a lot more pleasant to use, but such a rod need not be prohibitively expensive. My $40.00 Cortland 8′ /5wt will do 90% of what my similar Sage will do at 1/10 the price, and because it is with me all the time, It probably outfishes the Sage aver the course of the season. The most important thing a fly fisherman takes to the stream with him is the stuff that resides between his ears. Common sense, knowledge of the quarry, and proper presentation are the things that catch fish. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33" I agree, I have an old shakespeare wonderrod that I like to fish with the best. I guess it’s just what I am comfortable with is all. -Dave Funny, that is the very same brand and model my Grandfather carried on "non-fishing" trips where damage was possible, recommended to those getting started fly-fishing (as opposed to new Tournament casters)and gave out to rodless visiting fishermen.  I still have a few new in the packaging he never gave out.  I have used a couple of those in the racks, and you’re right, they’re actually pretty decent rods. TC, R

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The idea is to figure out where Mr. Fish is hiding and what he wants to eat, not to look better than the other guy on the stream. (And if you still want to raise high the Orvis flag, well, you’re probably old enough to decide these things for yourself.) Absolutely true!  I own rods ranging from a $40.00 Cortland I keep in my car all the time, to an Orvis Battenkill cane rod. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that, as far as catching fish is concerned, next to the reel, the rod is the least important item I carry. True, a rod that suits your casting style is a lot more pleasant to use, but such a rod need not be prohibitively expensive. My $40.00 Cortland 8′ /5wt will do 90% of what my similar Sage will do at 1/10 the price, and because it is with me all the time, It probably outfishes the Sage aver the course of the season. The most important thing a fly fisherman takes to the stream with him is the stuff that resides between his ears. Common sense, knowledge of the quarry, and proper presentation are the things that catch fish. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33" I agree, I have an old shakespeare wonderrod that I like to fish with the best. I guess it’s just what I am comfortable with is all. -Dave

Funny, that is the very same brand and model my Grandfather carried on "non-fishing" trips where damage was possible, recommended to those getting started fly-fishing (as opposed to new Tournament casters)and gave out to rodless visiting fishermen.  I still have a few new in the packaging he never gave out.  I have used a couple of those in the racks, and you’re right, they’re actually pretty decent rods. TC, R

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The idea is to figure out where Mr. Fish is hiding and what he wants to eat, not to look better than the other guy on the stream. (And if you still want to raise high the Orvis flag, well, you’re probably old enough to decide these things for yourself.) Absolutely true!  I own rods ranging from a $40.00 Cortland I keep in my car all the time, to an Orvis Battenkill cane rod. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that, as far as catching fish is concerned, next to the reel, the rod is the least important item I carry. True, a rod that suits your casting style is a lot more pleasant to use, but such a rod need not be prohibitively expensive. My $40.00 Cortland 8′ /5wt will do 90% of what my similar Sage will do at 1/10 the price, and because it is with me all the time, It probably outfishes the Sage aver the course of the season. The most important thing a fly fisherman takes to the stream with him is the stuff that resides between his ears. Common sense, knowledge of the quarry, and proper presentation are the things that catch fish. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

I agree, I have an old shakespeare wonderrod that I like to fish with the best. I guess it’s just what I am comfortable with is all. -Dave

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The idea is to figure out where Mr. Fish is hiding and what he wants to eat, not to look better than the other guy on the stream. (And if you still want to raise high the Orvis flag, well, you’re probably old enough to decide these things for yourself.)

Absolutely true!  I own rods ranging from a $40.00 Cortland I keep in my car all the time, to an Orvis Battenkill cane rod. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that, as far as catching fish is concerned, next to the reel, the rod is the least important item I carry. True, a rod that suits your casting style is a lot more pleasant to use, but such a rod need not be prohibitively expensive. My $40.00 Cortland 8′ /5wt will do 90% of what my similar Sage will do at 1/10 the price, and because it is with me all the time, It probably outfishes the Sage aver the course of the season. The most important thing a fly fisherman takes to the stream with him is the stuff that resides between his ears. Common sense, knowledge of the quarry, and proper presentation are the things that catch fish. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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It’s the rod that works well for whatever you happen to be trying to do that afternoon. Lately, I’ve come to find an 8′ 5-weight, relatively slow for graphite, to be perfect. For a very slow grass stick in the same dimensions, I could be persuaded. I wouldn’t use it for bassing, though…hard to throw a huge streamer or popper into the wind with it and in my experience bass can put a lot more strain on, even if the fight may be a little shorter. Yeah, folks, let’s obsess here. Catching little ones in small streams in the suburbs is dirty work, but someone’s gotta do it. It’s almost as dirty as catching blue catfish, or lake trout, or whitefish…The fish will bite if you cast to them with a Pflueger that was on close-out at Bass Pro Shops. They don’t bite harder on bamboo than they do on glass or graphite. The idea is to figure out where Mr. Fish is hiding and what he wants to eat, not to look better than the other guy on the stream. (And if you still want to raise high the Orvis flag, well, you’re probably old enough to decide these things for yourself.) "My father said to be strong, ‘that a good man could  never do wrong’ in a dream I had last night in America"                             -Los Lobos

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As promised to all of ROFF Will Soon Be Posted on my Web Site.  It is a large Research Paper and Report.  We may have to present it in 4 to eight Segments so it loads satisfactory for those interested. It has taken hundreds of hours editing and its still very disjointed when one takes a report this large and tries to cut it in half.  Anyone who is a writer of worth understands what it takes to accomplish it. "If I cut this, how do I link the gap into the flow where it picks up again?" Anyhow, It’s coming very soon. Lots to do yet. Thanks everyone for your patience. — Mr.G http://www.gink.com/  Updates http://www.gink.com/chat Flyfishing Conversations 6:00 PM PST till after midnight.

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As promised to all of ROFF Will Soon Be Posted on my Web Site.  It is a large Research Paper and Report.  We may have to present it in 4 to eight Segments so it loads satisfactory for those interested.

OK, why split this up for your own reading?  Well, maybe Tim will review it and Wayno will translate it, but….wait a minute, this IS beginning to have possibilities…<G… It has taken hundreds of hours editing and its still very disjointed when one takes a report this large and tries to cut it in half.  Anyone who is a writer of worth understands what it takes to accomplish it. "If I cut this, how do I link the gap into the flow where it picks up again?"

Disjointed Ginkspew?  That seems impossible.  If it is really that large, I doubt anyone will read it, even for laughs, so who cares?  If this is going to be like your "nature stories," why not just link to whomever you plan on plagiarizing, and be done with it.  Less trouble all around.  If you have in fact written this, or been a part of writing it, a team from Johns Hopkins is unlikely to sort it out, so chunk it up there with whatever target, gun and dead groundhog (I rarely read much of your writings anymore, but from replies, this is what it seems is there) you seem to have there now, and again, have done with it. Anyhow, It’s coming very soon. Lots to do yet.

I’ll bet… Thanks everyone for your patience.

The scientific community and the media are on high alert in anticipation, I’m sure. — Mr.G

Let me save you some time – I don’t care about your response, period, so save the bandwidth. R

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Dean Bean?  Would you stop slobbering all over my ring? mercy. — Mr.G http://www.gink.com/  Updates And trust me, you will be the first to read ALL OF IT!

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Wayne Knight Geneva IL You’re right Wayne but Walt grew up in Florida. Somewhere in the swamps I think.

mango infested islands loaded with big tusked hogs and big, slow moving turtles.  That’s why it takes him so long to do anything and is why women love him. ; ) —

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I will be in Jackson, WY for a meeting Aug 21-25, an annual event.  I usually try to spend a few afternoons on Flat Creek in the Refuge.  Does anyone have any current information on how it’s doing so far this summer??  Does anyone know of any other spring creek fishing accessible without going through a fly shop or guide.  I don’t mind a rod fee, but have been fly fishing for 30 years and prefer to fish on my own.  Thanks. T. Mann

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I will be in Jackson, WY for a meeting Aug 21-25, an annual event.  I usually try to spend a few afternoons on Flat Creek in the Refuge.  Does anyone have any current information on how it’s doing so far this summer??  Does anyone know of any other spring creek fishing accessible without going through a fly shop or guide.  I don’t mind a rod fee, but have been fly fishing for 30 years and prefer to fish on my own.  Thanks. T. Mann

I was just in Jackson this week. Just south, beyond the Hoback Junction, Hoback Creek and Granite Creek meet. I was talking to a few people in our campground (Granite Creek Campground) and they were pulling some fairly decent sized trout from Granite Creek. It is about a 20-30 minute drive south, depending on the road construction. (It was pretty bad a couple of days.) You may want to check it out. It wasn’t heavily fished while I was there.

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I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer. Thanks in advance. Jim

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No don’t delay go then! Best fishing is may-june into July. fishing holds into July Aug only when the weather is unusually coldin spring early summer. Early July will give you a shot at traveller sedge hatches. other than that major hatches (chironomids, damsels, dragons) are over or on the wane. Expect to fish scuds and leeches Good luck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer. Thanks in advance. Jim

Ralph H "…      the sabbath rang slowly      in the pebbles of the holy streams!" Dylan Thomas, "Fern Hill"

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer. Thanks in advance. Jim

Brian Chan has an excellent video  "Stillwater strategies vol II" if your looking for techniques and patterns in Kamloops area. — The views expressed are my own and does not represent those of my employer.

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I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort.

I will be fishing up in the Thompson-Nicola plateau (i.e. between Merritt and Kamloops) in about 4 weeks. Some of the higher lakes will still be iced at that time, but you’ll have no problems by July. As for further north – again, you should be out of ice by late May virtually everywhere in the area. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer.

Because of the snowpack, some of the *streams* will be a bit tough this year. However, most streams in that area are closed until June 30 anyway. The lakes will be just fine. 3798 Woodland Drive     voice: (250) 368-9315 Trail, BC               data:  (250) 368-9341

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m planning on spending several weeks fishing BC lakes this year.  I am looking at the area between Merrit and Kamloops and the area between 100 Mole House and Lttle Fort. I am planning the trip for the first part of July .  I could delay it for a few weeks.  Question:  Given the snow pack this year, would the beginning of July be a reasonable time to fish this area?  Also would appreciate any other advise anyone may care to offer. Thanks in advance. Jim

My friends and I are going the May long weekend to 100 mile house, hopefully the weather is warm, we plan on hitting the lowest elevation lakes around the area, concentrating on shallower lakes. A good source for info is a tackle shop just out side of 100 mile house near Lac la Hache(sp?), the shop is called FLY-R-US I think. The owner is very informative of which lake is fishable. You can’t miss the shop, it is right on the highway, look for the big sign of a fly. I think July should be alright for fishing in 100 mile area.

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Hi Group It seems like everytime I leave for a while my email gets messed up.  If any of you have tried to contact me in the last week, please do so again. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog)

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Hi Al — welcome home In light of some of the posts recently i have to start this with THIS IS A JOKE… but maybe nobody wanted to talk to you!!!!  ;) jg

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I have a few more beginner questions for everyone.  You’ve been very helpful in the past, and I appreciate that. After sending a dry fly over a trout, and getting a strike but not being able to set the hook (I need to work on that a bit), I wonder if the trout will in general strike again on the same fly, or does should one try elsewhere, since the fish just encountered a hook and spat it out.  Comments? Second.  While looking at a trout this weekend, I noticed a flap on its face, between what I would call the "lip" and "cheek".  This seems to be a natural feature, but I haven’t seen (or noticed) it on other types of fish.  Can someone tell my why it’s there, and what the trout uses it for? Thanks db   — ****** Derek Berwald

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After sending a dry fly over a trout, and getting a strike but not being able to set the hook (I need to work on that a bit), I wonder if the trout will in general strike again on the same fly, or does should one try elsewhere, since the fish just encountered a hook and spat it out.  Comments?

Hi Derek, Yes a fish will come back for a second shot on some occasions.  It may not have spit the hook our.  It’s possible you were too fast on the strike and pulled it away at the last minute.  If you are striking fast this could be the problem.  To set a hook, it’s always better to raise your rod rather than yank it into the next county.  Your success could very well go up. Regarding you next question, I’ll leave than for one of the experts in that areana. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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After sending a dry fly over a trout, and getting a strike but not being able to set the hook (I need to work on that a bit), I wonder if the trout will in general strike again on the same fly, or does should one try elsewhere, since the fish just encountered a hook and spat it out.  Comments?

The dumb, backcountry, cutts I was catching last weekend in a lake deep in the Wind Rivers would not only hit my wooly bugger more than once, they would sometimes hit it after being hooked and played for a second or two!  On the other hand, they wouldn’t hit a dry fly twice. More "educated" street-wise fish won’t hit the wooly bugger twice. Fish will often hit bait repeatedly. — -Wayne Trzyna

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Yes a fish will come back for a second shot on some occasions.  It may not have spit the hook our.  It’s possible you were too fast on the strike and pulled it away at the last minute.  If you are striking fast this could be the problem.  To set a hook, it’s always better to raise your rod rather than yank it into the next county.  Your success could very well go up.

I have yanked more flys away from fish than actually hooked up fish. I get really bad on ponds where you can watch the fish come up and take the fly (or nymph). carl carl

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: — : Netters..I am going home to Harrisburg Pa this coming  (2/3&2/4) weekend and I would like to try some fishing in the area.  I was thinking of the Yellow Breaches.  Could anyone recommend what I should use on this stream?  I figure that if the FF isn’t any good for me I would head on down to Gettysburg and tour the battlefield.  So, if anyone could recommend streams in between New Cumberland and Gettysburg..I would sure appreciate it!!..BTW.. Any good fly shops in the area that would be patient with a new bie??..Thanks..Dan : — :   : Dan Roberts : BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB PHARM. RES. CENTER      "Nature is last at Bats" : PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY U.S.A. PLANET EARTH, MILKY-WAY GALAXY

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Netters..I am going home to Harrisburg Pa this coming  (2/3&2/4) weekend and I would like to try some fishing in the area.  I was thinking of the Yellow Breaches.  Could anyone recommend what I should use on this stream?  I figure that if the FF isn’t any good for me I would head on down to Gettysburg and tour the battlefield.  So, if anyone could recommend streams in between New Cumberland and Gettysburg..I would sure appreciate it!!..BTW.. Any good fly shops in the area that would be patient with a newbie??..Thanks..Dan —

Well, I don’t have any information, per se, but I do know a great book.   I think it is by Charles Meck, or Ed Shenk, but it is called Penn. Trout Streams and Their Hatches (or Something like that).  I read it, and it is great!  I plan to buy it because, as you, I intend to do some fly fishing in Penn.  Good luck. -Paul P.S.  Try Bob Clouser’s Shop.  I think it is near Harrisburg and E-town. *                       *    "To catch a river unguarded is less a        * * Paul "Cousin" Graham   *    matter of where to look than of when, and   * *                          *  I have a secret time."-Ted Leeson           *

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Dan,   I just booked a cabin and a guide for a float down the Delaware at West Branch.  My favorite fly shop near you is Brandywine Outfitters in Exton, PA. Give ‘em a try.  They are very helpful to newbies and provide guide services near where you are going to be…. Mad Dog P.S. my favorite fly shop name is the "Evening Rise" in Intercourse, PA…. —

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– Netters..I am going home to Harrisburg Pa this coming  (2/3&2/4) weekend and I would like to try some fishing in the area.  I was thinking of the Yellow Breaches.  Could anyone recommend what I should use on this stream?  I figure that if the FF isn’t any good for me I would head on down to Gettysburg and tour the battlefield.  So, if anyone could recommend streams in between New Cumberland and Gettysburg..I would sure appreciate it!!..BTW.. Any good fly shops in the area that would be patient with a newbie??..Thanks..Dan — Dan Roberts BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB PHARM. RES. CENTER      "Nature is last at Bats" PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY U.S.A. PLANET EARTH, MILKY-WAY GALAXY

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