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Well done.  Wish I knew Bob so the picture would be absolutely crystal clear, but I get the idea.  Great pictures, Wolfie. Dave

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And therein lies both the beauty and the curse of the lowly Power Bar. These little miracles can be recycled indefinitely with no noticeable loss of flavor or change in texture.

That’s because they suck to begin with. Give me an 8 oz bag of King’s peppered beef jerky and a few bags of M&Ms.

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…..and hoisted our packs once again.  Check the crew.  Jeff’s wearing a glazed, almost beatific, smile…..endorphins or sumpthin…..he’ll get over it, and Bob just looks cramped and mean.  Right.  Everybody’s ready.  And up the trail we go. Half an hour later, our first real break.  Jeffie, the merciless bastard, agrees to a ten minute stop at a campground known, for reasons which by now are of absolutely no interest to me, as "the sawdust pile".  As he goes to look at the stream, Bob swigs from a plastic bladder filled with a mysterious brownish fluid, and I search the suspension system of my backpack in the probably vain hope of finding a scapula which I noticed, some time ago, was not in it’s accustomed position in the left dorsal proximal (or maybe it was the distal…….how DOES one tell them apart?) quadrant of my torso, a young couple approaches from downstream. He goes off to admire the stream….or make one of his own, and she stops to chat.  They are on a seven mile hike and the turn around is at "the sawdust pile", so we have come three and a half miles.  As we rest, several of the elderly day hikers from one of the pontoon boats we passed on the lake straggle in……well, actually, a  couple of them blaze by in a swirling cloud of dust and are only barely stopped by the frantic shouts of their friends or they might be in central Labrador by now. It is at this campground that we first notice the bear proof food hangers.  At each of the campgrounds the park service has installed one or more of these.  A steel cable is stretched between two trees some twenty to thirty feet apart.  Suspended from this cable are several more which are formed into continuous loops, each of which runs through a pulley at the top.  There is a pair of hooks on each of the loops, and a series of plastics sleeves held in place with nuts and bolts. The sleeves act as handholds, making it easier to haul up the hooked load of food.  Each cable also has a sturdy halyard clip which is placed such that it just reaches a screw eye about waist high in the trunk of the tree with the load suspended aloft.  Simple, elegant, cheap, and very effective. There will be one more rest stop before arrival at what will become our home for two nights and a day.  This time, I open my pack and take out something to eat.  Even Jeff is willing to stop for twenty minutes or so, but he is driven and Bob, who wears a look that says, "well, I’d probably like to sit down and die here with you, but I think I’ll take my chances with Jeff this time, nevertheless," accompanies him, leaving me to my fate.  "Ya’ll go on ahead," sez I, "I’ll catch up". I dawdle for a bit, enjoying the surroundings and the weather.  It is October and the leaves are beautiful.  A trout stream rushes by within easy reach and I know that I am within a mile of camp on a trail with an average grade of 2 or 3 percent……a trail which should more properly be called a highway….hell, a veritable Autobahn of hiking trails. This is the sort of trail that backpackers dream about after a hard day of climbing steep ascents over rolling cobbles and through calf deep mud.  So, I sit for a while and sip water and smoke a cigarette.  The day hikers have been left behind and I have a lovely spot all to myself.  Just me and the trees….and the stream….and the rocks….and the bea….um….well shit, maybe it IS time to get moving again. There is no sign of Jeff or Bob for the next half hour.  I am just about to cross another bridge when I happen to look to the right and catch a glimpse of movement.  Uh oh…….oh, it’s the boys.  It appears we have arrived at last.  Nice campground.  Not quite as barren looking as the others we had passed, and there is a more or less level spot on a tiny spit that over looks the confluence of Hazel and whatever the little feeder that comes out of Bone valley is called.  Not all THAT little actually.  This is a major tributary for a stream the size of Hazel, carrying about half as much water.   We set up camp quickly.  Two tents are erected in about fifteen minutes, a clothes line is strung, and three suddenly rejuvenated fly fishers are suited up and ready to rock in another ten or so.  Jeff dives in right at the camp site, Bob goes up the tributary, and I walk down a few hundred yards to fish my way back up. Hazel creek is different water than most that I have fished in the North Carolina mountains.  Where Santeetlah and the others plunge and roar in a frenzy of moving water, Hazel merely rushes in exuberance.  The is bigger water….not BIG, mind you, but bigger.  There are actual pools, trenches, runs, and even some sizable eddies where the others have pockets.  There are deep holes holding mysteries.  There are places too deep and or fast to wade through; you have to go around.  An hour or so of fishing produces a few small fish, and that’s enough.  I arrive back at the campsite and see Bob working his way up the tributary.  We spend the next hour and a half exploring a couple hundred yards of this promising water.  The promise is not fulfilled in any spectacular fashion, but we know the fish are there, as they are in Hazel itself, as they HAVE to be in water that looks like this.  We have been ASSURED that they are there by witnesses like Jeff and Wayno, but we believe it anyway. Back in camp, we eventually prepare the first of what will be a series of dismal meals.  Having flown half way across the country, I came without any food and we survived on what Bob had left over from previous trips and a few odds and ends we picked up in Robbinsville.  Not that my bringing anything from home would have made any real difference.  I’ve always been fairly indifferent to comestible niceties while on the trail….just too much bother, but I hope I never live to see another "Power Bar", and I believe the others share this sentiment.  Damned things look like they’ve been eaten once already, and neither the flavor nor the consistency does anything to dispel that disturbing impression      Two other campers who arrived while we were out fishing rattle pots and pans (cast iron pans!) as they enjoy what smells like bacon and beans….THEY came in on horses, trailing a pack mule…..bastards!     We kindle a fire using the wood which the previous tenants have thoughtfully left for us.  It’s a bit of a chore, as the wood is wet….looks and feels like it’s been rained on for a few days.  But it is mostly surface moisture and among the three of us we manage to keep a cheery blaze going till late into the night, as we each enjoy his own brand of poison and tell lies.  Long about 7:30 Jeff bags it and the rest of the party is not far behind. Morning comes early as Jeffie has not slept a wink…..something about cougars and bears cavorting around his tent all night long.  After a hasty breakfast of coffee, liquor, power bar wrappers, and crawly things, it was back to the stream for a full day of fishing.  Bob elected to stay in the general neighborhood of camp while Jeff and I decided to head upstream a couple of miles.  Jeff was eager to see virgin water….the section that had been closed to fishing for the past 25 years, despite having been informed that it wasn’t really all that virginal.  Seems the locals have been raping it pretty steadily throughout that time…..what’s new?  Virgin or not, a mile or so was enough for me and I ducked into the stream as Jeff continued up the trail.  In all, I fished two miles or a bit more that day.  For the first hour or two I worked the water carefully and caught fish steadily at the rate of one every three or four minutes.  By the end of that time it was clear that it was just going to be one of those days.  One of those infrequent days when it simply doesn’t matter much what you do. Wishing to see more of the stream and thinking that I might eventually overtake Jeff, I began to move much more quickly and only fished what seemed to me the most appealing spots.  I’d like to think that twenty years of experience and hard practice have prepared me to be able to pick the best spots to fish, but the truth is it was just one of those days.  The catching pace remained constant throughout the day.  I ended up with something like sixty or seventy, based on calculating the time fished and the steady catch rate.  The largest were three ten inch rainbows, all unusually fat.  The rest ranged from three through eight inches or thereabouts with a fairly even distrubtion…..about normal for most of the waters I’ve fished in NC or back home in Wisconsin and Michigan, for that matter.  Surprisingly, all were rainbows and browns, with the rainbows predominating.  Not a brookie in the bunch. By late afternoon, having gotten bored with catching fish, bouncing around on wet rocks and taking a couple of bone jarring falls, and knowing that I had about a three mile hike back to camp, I decided it was time to see if I could locate the trail which task, after caroming off several nasty and impenetrable rhodo thickets, I eventually accomplished. Took about forty-five minutes of fast paced downhill hiking to make it back.  Arriving back at camp, I found Jeff in the stream there.  He had given up some time ago, gone back down the trail and then hiked up to bone valley where he found the meadow we had been told of completely overgrown with trees.  Things change.  He then came back to the campground where he caught a fat ten inch rainbow (it seems they suddenly put on a great deal of weight on reaching that threshold size) just before I arrived.  Although neither Jeff nor Bob had as good a day of catching as I did, we were all agreed that it had been a glorious day.  The sun shined all day long and the temperature must have reached about sixty.  Where a sunbeam managed to penetrate the canopy and hit a relatively still spot in the stream the bottom shone with a breathtaking clarity.  The water, it seemed, was even clearer than the

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Will be in PNG for Nov/Dec, anyone have any info or URLs for flyfishing there ? Thanks, Mick

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Mick, Nov-Dec will be rainy season – depending on where abouts you are and it might reduce for options for tangling with nugini bass and black bass. Dean guides there and pioneered many locations in PNG for black bass etc. and has many friends there. Regards John Knight Sydney Fly Rodders’

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Thanks for the help, guys…. SpEEdo… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – He’s asking 17,500 on the side of it.  It’s a helluva deal with that big tuna tower and all the fishing rigging.  However, I’ve talked to 8 long-time sport fishermen about it and they told me Pacemaker had some I had one of these (1973) for sale two years ago.  It is great for near coastal cruising.. It has a relatively low center of gravity making it very stable.  It isn’t a full V hull as it is very flat in the stern.  This allows it acess to shallower water, but makes it pound more in the steep chop.  The flying bridge is fairly small. but adequate.  The fellow who bought it uses it in the L.I. sound regularly, and loves it.  There was no problem with blisters or delaminations. I think the $17,000 is a little high even rigged for offshore.  I sold the one at my place for $12,000 with two near new engines.  No fishing equiptment though. Boatbasin http://www.boatbasin.com

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<snip However, I’ve talked to 8 long-time sport fishermen about it and they told me Pacemaker had some AWFUL problems with blisters, delaminations and other ugly things that put the company out of business…..yecch.

What years were the eight?  An old-time marine surveyor told me that boats made before the Arab oil embargo of the mid-seventies had few if any problems with blisters.  Only after the embargo hit and oil prices went sky-high did manufacturers start tampering with resin formulations and unknowingly create blister city.  The boat in question is a ‘72 model and may be perfectly blister-free. Bill, W7TI

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He’s asking 17,500 on the side of it.  It’s a helluva deal with that big tuna tower and all the fishing rigging.  However, I’ve talked to 8 long-time sport fishermen about it and they told me Pacemaker had some

I had one of these (1973) for sale two years ago.  It is great for near coastal cruising.. It has a relatively low center of gravity making it very stable.  It isn’t a full V hull as it is very flat in the stern.  This allows it acess to shallower water, but makes it pound more in the steep chop.  The flying bridge is fairly small. but adequate.  The fellow who bought it uses it in the L.I. sound regularly, and loves it.  There was no problem with blisters or delaminations. I think the $17,000 is a little high even rigged for offshore.  I sold the one at my place for $12,000 with two near new engines.  No fishing equiptment though. Boatbasin http://www.boatbasin.com

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There’s one for sale in Charleston I have to walk by every time I go to my bud’s sailboat.  It had a little smoke damage from a fire in a home air conditioner he used but has been completely restored inside. It has radar/sonar/GPS/tv/microwave/Loran/2 alarms/lights/water/well, you get the idea. He’s asking 17,500 on the side of it.  It’s a helluva deal with that big tuna tower and all the fishing rigging.  However, I’ve talked to 8 long-time sport fishermen about it and they told me Pacemaker had some AWFUL problems with blisters, delaminations and other ugly things that put the company out of business…..yecch. Sure is tempting….it’s still floating, the new AC/heat pump is pumping and I see lights inside the stained-glass windows….(c; SpEEdo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am considering a 30′ Pacemaker – 1972. The owner says the model is Sportfish, but it sure has a small cockpit. It has a fly bridge and lower helm station which behind the step down salon/galley. This open helm area extends quite a way into the cockpit and includes the engine hatches (it has a fighting chair) and the cockpit seems quite short. I wonder if this is more a Cruiser model than a SF and if I’d get a better fishing boat if I looked for a later model. Does anyone have any knowledge of these models? I have looked in the "Sportfishing Boats 28-82′" guide and the oldest Pacemaker they show is a 1973 that has a different layout. The boat is in very good condition with outriggers, 489 hrs on 220/hp chryslers, older electronics (no GPS or radar) – he is asking $19K. Does this sound reasonable?? Thanks!

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I am considering a 30′ Pacemaker – 1972. The owner says the model is Sportfish, but it sure has a small cockpit. It has a fly bridge and lower helm station which behind the step down salon/galley. This open helm area extends quite a way into the cockpit and includes the engine hatches (it has a fighting chair) and the cockpit seems quite short. I wonder if this is more a Cruiser model than a SF and if I’d get a better fishing boat if I looked for a later model. Does anyone have any knowledge of these models? I have looked in the "Sportfishing Boats 28-82′" guide and the oldest Pacemaker they show is a 1973 that has a different layout. The boat is in very good condition with outriggers, 489 hrs on 220/hp chryslers, older electronics (no GPS or radar) – he is asking $19K. Does this sound reasonable?? Thanks!

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I wouldn’t trust the reliability of the hourmeter.  You need both a survey and a mechanic to check out your boat to decide if 19K is a good price. — — Jim Proud, but feeble minded Regal Owner Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.

| I am considering a 30′ Pacemaker – 1972. The owner says the model is | Sportfish, but it sure has a small cockpit. It has a fly bridge and lower | helm station which behind the step down salon/galley. This open helm area | extends quite a way into the cockpit and includes the engine hatches (it has | a fighting chair) and the cockpit seems quite short. | | I wonder if this is more a Cruiser model than a SF and if I’d get a better | fishing boat if I looked for a later model. Does anyone have any knowledge of | these models? I have looked in the "Sportfishing Boats 28-82′" guide and the | oldest Pacemaker they show is a 1973 that has a different layout. | | The boat is in very good condition with outriggers, 489 hrs on 220/hp | chryslers, older electronics (no GPS or radar) – he is asking $19K. Does this | sound reasonable?? | | Thanks! |

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I have recently started fly fishing with a $35 combo rod/reel I bought at Sports Authority – its made by South Bend.  I thought that $35 was a good gamble if I didn’t like fly fishing, I wouldn’t be out alot of cash. The problem is, I love it!  I have had more fun than I can tell you! Freshwater Bass is a blast on the fly and now I am going after Snook in the brackish waters of the Indian River Lagoon here in SE Florida. I am interested in networking with others who can share information with me with regard to what flys work best and what brand/size rod and reel I should consider steping up to.

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There are a number of great fly fishing sites that offer a wealth of information, include bulletin boards, chat rooms, etc. All of these can be valuable. For a start, log onto our site and go to the links page. Click through those links and they, in turn, will lead you to others. — Hope you always have the time to go fishing! Jerry in Lodi Al & Jerry’s Excellent Adventures http://www.softcom.net/users/dorado Al & Jerry’s Fishing Forum http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/m/19629

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I’ve been using an old Minn Kota 28 lb transom mount electric, thinking of buying a new trolling motor for more power and better ability through weeds. Mostly fish bass and muskies, casting toward shore and working through weeds and around stumps.The boat is 16′ aluminum, side console, powered by 30 horse motor. I think I’ll need at least 48" shaft if I go bowmount, probably 36-42 pound thrust, 12 V. Any experience with the various electric (laser, radio, wire) motor steer style vs pedal with cable steering or hand control? Convenience, durability, reliability, etc? I like to fly fish, am concerned about wrapping line around cables and pedals. Is a bow mount worth the significant extra expense over a transom mount? Appreciate any recommendations you can offer. Thanks in advance.

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I’ve been using an old Minn Kota 28 lb transom mount electric, thinking of buying a new trolling motor for more power and better ability through weeds. Mostly fish bass and muskies, casting toward shore and working through weeds and around stumps.The boat is 16′ aluminum, side console, powered by 30 horse motor. I think I’ll need at least 48" shaft if I go bowmount, probably 36-42 pound thrust, 12 V. Any experience with the various electric (laser, radio, wire) motor steer style vs pedal with cable steering or hand control? Convenience, durability, reliability, etc? I like to fly fish, am concerned about wrapping line around cables and pedals. Is a bow mount worth the significant extra expense over a transom mount? Appreciate any recommendations you can offer. Thanks in advance.

Hi John, I’ve used a 24V Minn Kota Autopilot model 824 for the last 2 years on a 14.5 ft aluminium boat with a 35hp motor. The 824 is 48lb thrust and has a remote electric foot control (wire). For flyfishing, a  bow mount with remote control is essential if you are fishing structure for bass etc as you seem to be doing, esp. if your fishing with a partner. You can put the foot control on the rear casting deck but still steer from the front. The auto pilot option keeps pointing to a fixed heading (even though the boat may be pivoting around it). For fly fishing, this option means if you hook a big one close to snags you can point the motor to power away from the snag and then fight the fish without needing to make any other adjustments to your course (you need to fish with someone set up with it to believe it). I may up-grade to the wireless remote version (easy to do) which will get rid of the control wire, but if I coil the wire up carefully it is only a small, fairly snag free obstruction. I got 24v in preference to 12v because 2 x 12v batteries in 24v draw less current than 2 x 12v batteries at 12v. Lower current draw gives higher efficiency (longer life). Let me know if you want more detail. Cheers John Knight Sydney Fly Rodders’

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For all those fans of the Loomis IMX Rods there is hope. Talked to Gary Loomis about the GL4 rods and he reccomends to underline the GL4 fly rods by one line weight; by doing this you will now have the IMX action.

Does this mean that by overlining my IMX by one weight I get a GL4 action? Great! Fish on, Allen

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For all those fans of the Loomis IMX Rods there is hope. Talked to Gary Loomis about the GL4 rods and he reccomends to underline the GL4 fly rods by one line weight; by doing this you will now have the IMX action. Does this mean that by overlining my IMX by one weight I get a GL4 action? Great! Fish on, Allen

Yes!  Not only that, but overlining a GL4 by two weights will give you a winston.  Overline by 3 weights… Instant Cane rod!  I love technology! Phil

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For all those fans of the Loomis IMX Rods there is hope. Talked to Gary Loomis about the GL4 rods and he reccomends to underline the GL4 fly rods by one line weight; by doing this you will now have the IMX action. Tight Lines and Release ‘em Nick DelleDonne — Nick DelleDonne, Fly Fishing Consultant and Owner of: The Evening Rise Fly Angler’s Shop, 4182 Old Phila. Pike, PO Box 446 "Shop Located 3 Miles East of Intercourse, PA on Route 340"

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 I have a nice box of bonefish flies that I’ve used on a recent trip to  the Keys — don’t ask how I did — but I’ve got these Crazy Charlies,  Gotchas and other small size 6, 4, and 1 shrimp flies.  Can they be used  for fresh water fishing?  And what applications might they have in the  coastal areas of Maryland, my other saltwater haunt.  Can they be used  for other fish in the Cheasapeake.  I would love to know if they have  other applications.  I suspect they do.

Do you have any Clouser Minnows?  Both Crazy Charlies and Clousers in Bright colors are said to work for salmon, trout, and stealhead in the Alaska region.  Clousers can also work for stripers sometimes.

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I’ve had alot of success with crazy charlies on my trout homewaters in New Hampshire.  More trout have been taken on them than bonefish for me!  In – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a nice box of bonefish flies that I’ve used on a recent trip to the Keys — don’t ask how I did — but I’ve got these Crazy charlies, Gotchas and other small size 6, 4, and 1 shrimp flies. Can they be used for fresh water fishing? And what applications might they have in the coastal areas of Maryland, my other saltwater haunt. Can they be used for other fish in the Cheasapeake. I would love to know if they have other applications. I suspect they do.

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: I have a nice box of bonefish flies that I’ve used on a recent trip to : the Keys — don’t ask how I did — but I’ve got these Crazy charlies, : Gotchas and other small size 6, 4, and 1 shrimp flies. Can they be used : for fresh water fishing? And what applications might they have in the : coastal areas of Maryland, my other saltwater haunt. Can they be used : for other fish in the Cheasapeake. I would love to know if they have : other applications. I suspect they do.

I’ve taken native brown trout in streams on pink Crazy Charlies. I am looking forward to using them on lake run browns and rainbows in the fall.

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I have a nice box of bonefish flies that I’ve used on a recent trip to the Keys — don’t ask how I did — but I’ve got these Crazy charlies, Gotchas and other small size 6, 4, and 1 shrimp flies. Can they be used for fresh water fishing? And what applications might they have in the coastal areas of Maryland, my other saltwater haunt. Can they be used for other fish in the Cheasapeake. I would love to know if they have other applications. I suspect they do.

They sometimes work on Shad ( running now on both coasts ) and try them in the surf for perch or what ever else. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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Davenport) writes: : I have a nice box of bonefish flies that I’ve used on a recent trip to : the Keys — don’t ask how I did — but I’ve got these Crazy charlies, : Gotchas and other small size 6, 4, and 1 shrimp flies. Can they be used : for fresh water fishing? And what applications might they have in the : coastal areas of Maryland, my other saltwater haunt. Can they be used : for other fish in the Cheasapeake. I would love to know if they have : other applications. I suspect they do.

I understand that Crazy Charlies are a pretty good Carp Fly if that holds any interest for you…….

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I have a nice box of bonefish flies that I’ve used on a recent trip to the Keys — don’t ask how I did — but I’ve got these Crazy charlies, Gotchas and other small size 6, 4, and 1 shrimp flies. Can they be used for fresh water fishing? And what applications might they have in the coastal areas of Maryland, my other saltwater haunt. Can they be used for other fish in the Cheasapeake. I would love to know if they have other applications. I suspect they do.

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: I have a nice box of bonefish flies that I’ve used on a recent trip to : the Keys — don’t ask how I did — but I’ve got these Crazy charlies, : Gotchas and other small size 6, 4, and 1 shrimp flies. Can they be used : for fresh water fishing? And what applications might they have in the : coastal areas of Maryland, my other saltwater haunt. Can they be used : for other fish in the Cheasapeake. I would love to know if they have : other applications. I suspect they do. : : :We have found that the gotchas are great on shad.

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I’m looking for info on a fly-fishing school for women.  My girlfriend wants to get  into the sport, but would feel more comfortable learning with and from other women.  Does anyone know of such a school in New England?

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Orvis runs separate schools for women (and also mixed). LL bean also has classes. Both are in New England. Also check with individual shops – many are now starting to offer classes for women. Ann

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Orvis runs separate schools for women (and also mixed). LL bean also has classes. Both are in New England. Also check with individual shops – many are now starting to offer classes for women. Ann

Also, Lori Ann Miller runs schools out west. Used to be out of Jackson, but now I think she is headquartered out of Idaho. She can be reached through the Orvis shop in Jackson, and her name and number are also in the Orvis Catalogue. She runs an outfit called "Reel Women." Christy Ball was in this business with her, but I don’t know if she still is. I am sure Christy still does the same thing, and probably can be reached through the same Orvis store in Jackson. I understand they are exceptional. Kevin Williams

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In Northern California, Clearwater House presents their "Mastering the Art of Fly Fishing" for women only.  I’ve taken a number of classes there, know the staff, and can’t recommend them any higher. If you’re interested, check out <http://www.ecenter.net/clearwater/, or you can call, 415.381.1173. Kim — —– Kim St. John Woodward         |   "When the ship lifts, all bills are paid. St. John Software             |    No regrets." http://www.EveningRise.com

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Hi-    I teach women-only classes to those who want them. Our school is in the town of Truckee about 20 minutes north of Lake Tahoe. We’re booked into October of this year but do keep an on-deck list to cover cancellations.    -Tight lines, Lisa —

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Hi,   Great Basin College in Elko, Nevada will be running a lady’s school on July 26 and 27. For mor info, contact Pat Warren at (702) 753-2231 Jim, Nevada Jim’s Outdoor Sports, Elko, NV

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Hello everyone!  I am looking for fishing listservers.  I know of the flyfishing listserver in kentucky, are there any others?  Thanks a bunch. Tight Lines, George — *George M. Chan                 * "New York City has no power,       * *                               *  ’cuz I stay away from dairy."     * *                               *                      -Phoebe       *

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Hello everyone!  I am looking for fishing listservers.  I know of the flyfishing listserver in kentucky, are there any others?  Thanks a bunch. Tight Lines, George

George, Noticed the following listservers on rec.hunting……. **If you are a flyfisher, have a look on the following: **or **The first list gives you a lot of traffic while the latter is a bit **less active. Hope this helps Alex * Spinner of the WWWeb Page at                                      * *            http://www.well.com/www/amv/amv.htm                    *

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| | Any of you poor schlepps out there stuck with me in the land | of no salmonids? I guess bass will have to work for now:) | I’d love to get to know some fellow fly anglers here. Drop me a line. | | — I was. Now I’m not. Oregon is home. Trout and Steelhead are only a mile and a cast away. My father in Marion, Indiana is flying out for a five day nothin’ but flyfishing vacation with my two brothers and me in July. I have a feeling he won’t be a poor schlepp like you anymore. Sympathetically Yours, E M Sutton Gresham, OR "To fish,…or not to fish? No question about it."        /           *                                                                                                                                                                                O                              #/_                              #  O                              

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Any of you poor schlepps out there stuck with me in the land of no salmonids? I guess bass will have to work for now:) I’d love to get to know some fellow fly anglers here. Drop me a line. — Fishin Buddy  o <<     o  |           These opinions are offered by weight  <     <  o       <J           provocative content may have occurred      <<       <<                    during shipping and handling.

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Any of you poor schlepps out there stuck with me in the land of no salmonids? I guess bass will have to work for now:) I’d love to get to know some fellow fly anglers here. Drop me a line. — Fishin Buddy  o    <<     o  |           These opinions are offered by weight  <     <  o       <J              provocative content may have occurred      <<  <<                    during shipping and handling.

We are out here.  Yes, stuck in the land of no salmonids.  But learning to love bass and bluegill flyfishing.   "I am haunted by waters." -Norman Maclean-

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Sugar Creek up near Crawfordsville always afforded us great fly fishing, especially downstream towards Shades State Park. It’s actually a pretty well known stretch of creek written about in _Nymphs_ by Ernie Scweibert. The small mouth you can sight-cast to. No crowds either.   No salmonids? Have you checked out the south shore of Lake Michigan during spawning runs? Tim Shickley – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any of you poor schlepps out there stuck with me in the land of no salmonids? I guess bass will have to work for now:) I’d love to get to know some fellow fly anglers here. Drop me a line. — Fishin Buddy  o       <<     o  |            These opinions are offered by weight  <     <  o       <J            provocative content may have occurred      <<      <<                     during shipping and handling. We are out here.  Yes, stuck in the land of no salmonids.  But learning to love bass and bluegill flyfishing. "I am haunted by waters." -Norman Maclean-

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