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Frank;   I think you missed my e-mail as well. You must have a full batch of e-mails at home in a seperate folder. I’m in for an Orange/Gold/Brown Clouser Deep Minnow/Crawdad. Let us know how many we need to tie up–and a Postal address for you. Thanks for being the swapmeister.   Dave M

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Stan, don’t know what happened but I have yet to receive your post, and as well Bob Weinberger, Jamie Heim and Mike Connor.  Rest assured gentlemen, you are all on the list now.  Also, Chris Cook your name has been duly changed. Perhaps we can use roff and rofft as backup communication if the event this happens again.  Thank you all, an update to follow. Frank Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frank: Did you miss my e-mail?  I sent you a message not 5 minutes after you posted the start of the swap…  Even put "FLYSWAP" in the subject like you asked? I signed up to do a dragonfly nymph, and my 14 year old son, Steve, signed up to do a Prince nymph. –Stan OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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Add my name to the list of missed e-mails. Actually, I sent two. I would like to do an olive mountain midge. Tim Lysyk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stan, don’t know what happened but I have yet to receive your post, and as well Bob Weinberger, Jamie Heim and Mike Connor.  Rest assured gentlemen, you are all on the list now.  Also, Chris Cook your name has been duly changed. Perhaps we can use roff and rofft as backup communication if the event this happens again.  Thank you all, an update to follow. Frank Church Frank: Did you miss my e-mail?  I sent you a message not 5 minutes after you posted the start of the swap…  Even put "FLYSWAP" in the subject like you asked? I signed up to do a dragonfly nymph, and my 14 year old son, Steve, signed up to do a Prince nymph. –Stan OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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Stan, don’t know what happened but I have yet to receive your post, and as well Bob Weinberger, Jamie Heim and Mike Connor.  Rest assured gentlemen, you are all on the list now.  Also, Chris Cook your name has been duly changed. Perhaps we can use roff and rofft as backup communication if the event this happens again.  Thank you all, an update to follow. Frank Church

and mine? Peter

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Me three, Since his news reader seems to be better than his Email I Replied to this post. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Me too, apparently you missed mine as well. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de Frank: Did you miss my e-mail?  I sent you a message not 5 minutes after you posted the start of the swap…  Even put "FLYSWAP" in the subject like you asked? I signed up to do a dragonfly nymph, and my 14 year old son, Steve, signed up to do a Prince nymph. –Stan OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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Frank, TBD is a technical term that roughly translates into "I haven’t a F(*&ing Clue what I’m going to tie – but I’ll tie something and I’ll try not to be the last one to submit my entries" Paul (to be determined)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That must be the famous Thorax Bodied Dunn.  I’m thinking of making it my first attempt at tying.  I’ll have to substitute a plastic Brillo pad for the Adelusian Grosebeak Hackle but it should work! — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine! Alright Paul, you’re in for a TBD fly.  What’s a TBD fly, or am I gonna be sorry for asking? Frank C.

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Orange/Gold/Brown Clouser Deep Minnow/Crawdad

And the fly is easier to tie than pronounce?

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Stan;   Yeah–not only easier to tie than pronounce–but works like a charm for both Browns–for you Adipose fin fanatics–and Smallmouths for those of you of the cool/warmwater persuasion.   Dave

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stan, don’t know what happened but I have yet to receive your post, and as well Bob Weinberger, Jamie Heim and Mike Connor.  Rest assured gentlemen, you are all on the list now.  Also, Chris Cook your name has been duly changed. Perhaps we can use roff and rofft as backup communication if the event this happens again.  Thank you all, an update to follow. Frank Church Frank: Did you miss my e-mail?  I sent you a message not 5 minutes after you posted the start of the swap…  Even put "FLYSWAP" in the subject like you asked? I signed up to do a dragonfly nymph, and my 14 year old son, Steve, signed up to do a Prince nymph. –Stan OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

_____  How many does one tie of a pattern, by the way Frank? — (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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uh…..anybody got a pattern for a Miller dry?  Where can I get a white magic marker?? Will whiteout work? — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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….uh, Wayne ol buddy, have you considered having Dianna tie the flies?  I hear wimmin have a natural propensity for doing close-in highly detailed work. Frank (jest trying to help) Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – uh…..anybody got a pattern for a Miller dry?  Where can I get a white magic marker?? Will whiteout work? — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine! OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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Frank Church writes: OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

Frank, put me down for a Bottom Dweller Caddis Worm.  <g Dave LaCourse Pirate and Bottom Dweller

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Frank, Put me down for a TBD fly. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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Okey dokie Dave, you’re down for a BDCW! Frank

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Frank Church writes: OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly Frank, put me down for a Bottom Dweller Caddis Worm.  <g Dave LaCourse Pirate and Bottom Dweller

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Alright Paul, you’re in for a TBD fly.  What’s a TBD fly, or am I gonna be sorry for asking? Frank C.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Frank, Put me down for a TBD fly. Paul OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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That must be the famous Thorax Bodied Dunn.  I’m thinking of making it my first attempt at tying.  I’ll have to substitute a plastic Brillo pad for the Adelusian Grosebeak Hackle but it should work! — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Alright Paul, you’re in for a TBD fly.  What’s a TBD fly, or am I gonna be sorry for asking? Frank C.

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Frank: Did you miss my e-mail?  I sent you a message not 5 minutes after you posted the start of the swap…  Even put "FLYSWAP" in the subject like you asked? I signed up to do a dragonfly nymph, and my 14 year old son, Steve, signed up to do a Prince nymph. –Stan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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Frank, please could you change the name I am under (Richard Cook) to Chris Cook? That is my name but we had to register the e-mail address as Richard. Anyway, the pattern I will by tying for the fly swap will be a goldhead sawyers nymph. As long as this suits everyone I will get tying straight away! Happy new year to you all Regards Chris Cook

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Frank, Like Stan, I also sent you an email right after you announced. I signed up to do a size 16 Biot & CDC Caddis.  Bob Weinberger

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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Frank,     Like the other two gents you seem to have missed my e-mail as well. I repiled shortly after your post went up. Anyhow, sign me up for a Mickey Finn (the greatest streamer of all time). I’ll include to more special flies for you to cover the Canadian postage. — Regards, Jamie  8^) http://clik.to/flyfish

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frank, Like Stan, I also sent you an email right after you announced. I signed up to do a size 16 Biot & CDC Caddis.  Bob Weinberger OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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You tie as many as there are total swappers, minus one, unless you want one of your own flies sent back to you. Old Gray Swapmeister Stan, don’t know what happened but I have yet to receive your post, and as well Bob Weinberger, Jamie Heim and Mike Connor.  Rest assured gentlemen, you are all on the list now.  Also, Chris Cook your name has been duly changed. Perhaps we can use roff and rofft as backup communication if the event this happens again.  Thank you all, an update to follow. Frank Church

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frank: Did you miss my e-mail?  I sent you a message not 5 minutes after you posted the start of the swap…  Even put "FLYSWAP" in the subject like you asked? I signed up to do a dragonfly nymph, and my 14 year old son, Steve, signed up to do a Prince nymph. –Stan OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly _____  How many does one tie of a pattern, by the way Frank? — (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html    fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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My apologies Frank, and other swappers. I withdraw from the swap. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Mike Connor writes: My apologies Frank, and other swappers. I withdraw from the swap.

I understand.  I’ve been thinking the same. Dave

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Me too, apparently you missed mine as well. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frank: Did you miss my e-mail?  I sent you a message not 5 minutes after you posted the start of the swap…  Even put "FLYSWAP" in the subject like you asked? I signed up to do a dragonfly nymph, and my 14 year old son, Steve, signed up to do a Prince nymph. –Stan OK would-be flyswappers, here’s the first update for the 2nd Annual Great Frank Church……. RabbitStrip Flasher Bob Beardall……. "Queen of the Water" dry fly

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You’re going to Key West right?  More likely to see lots of guys in

butt-flossing suits. Hairy butts in a butt-flosser?  Eeewww! I’ll have nightmares tonight.  Thanks. Many people think its safer to fly to Key West from Miami along the chain of islands as opposed to directly across the Florida Bay (via Victor 225 or B9 if you have an ADF or GPS).

That was my reasoning.  Coming from my direction, it’s either that or over the swamp then ocean. Besides, another pilot told me that flying US1 is probably the most beautiful flying that can be had in the States.  I’m not so sure.  As you can see on the sectional there are very few airports, public or private, in the keys.  If you lose an engine you probably aren’t going to be able to make a successful landing on US 1

Oh?  Why not?  Flying along the west coast will be shorter but I was gonna head to Miami for just that reason. At least a car is likely to spot me going down, right? Finally be sure and watch out of R-2916.  The government launches a 14,000 ft high tethered balloon there with radar to catch drug smugglers or whatever.  You sure don’t want to wander off course and fly into it.

Yeah, I’ve pointed that out to a few co-workers.  a 14,000 foot tether. That’s amazing. Thanks for your comments.  Anything else you wanna share would be appreciated. — Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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Anyone wanna tackle this? I’m planning to go to Key West in a couple of days.  VFR.  Jimmy Buffet Parrothead convention.

Didn’t know there were Buffet conventions.  Now that I do, I can’t imagine missing the next one.  Does Jimmy bring the Albatross?  There used to be one of those based on a lake near where I live.  The owner would do type ratings for the local Continental pilots.  It was just awesome watching that thing coming in low, landing (watering???), then taxiing around on the lake for a takeoff.  It’s gone now, think the owner took it to Lake Powell. I’ll be flying from PDK (Atlanta) to EYW (Key West) departing Friday morning and coming back Sunday. My decision, right now, is to go. Just for the sake of discussion (and if anyone would like to take the time), what’s the weather/trip look like to you experienced fellers?  What sources of info do you base your assessment on?

I decided long ago to use DUATS for information only but to talk to a real live briefer before I go anywhere.    The FSS briefers are *required* to intepret the information they are giving you, whereas the computer of course can’t do that. Pull a DUATs report, try to figure out where the little jerkwater places that they use as weather reporting points are, then try to understand which of the NOTAMS they list apply to your flight (WHY in God’s name do they tell me about Iranian airspace restrictions when I’m flying from Houston to Austin?  For those of you in the UK, that route of flight does not go close to Iran, or Iraq, or Oklahoma, or any other foreign country). My favorite weather source, believe it or not, is this one: http://www.uswx.com/.   I expect that there are others that do something similar, but this lets me look at fronts, and movement, etc.  So I’ll keep an eye on this, and talk to the FSS guys sometime before I head for the airport to see if I missed something and to get their intepretation. So far, it’s worked for me. Or, a trite answer:  If you are worried, don’t go.  If you go anyway, be mindful of accident chains and watch for one forming. Good luck!  I’m looking at your route weather now, and it looks crappy in Pensacola and South Florida.  http://www.uswx.com/us/wx/FL/

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There’s another ballon just like that near Cross City, FL that you will pass going to the Keys from Atlanta. Before you buy.

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SNIP Oh?  Why not?  Flying along the west coast will be shorter but I was gonna head to Miami for just that reason.

US 1 is a two lane road with lots of traffic and no berm.  Its also crisscrossed with lots and lots of electric and telephone lines, trees, etc. I wouldn’t say its impossible but, overall, in my opinion its a pretty poor choice for a landing strip. Your friends who commented that its a beautiful flight (from Miami to Key West) are correct, it is. If you decide to go the west coast route stop at Everglades City (X01), the best kept airport secret in south Florida.  Its the entrance to the "unspoiled" part of the Everglades and offers a couple of good restaurants and a beautiful flight over the "10,000 islands" south of Naples.    If you go the Miami route stop at Marathon (MTH) which actually has a much longer runway then Key West, a friendly FBO, lots of restaurants, and generally a far more laid-back experience then Key West (plus you won’t find many hairy butts wearing flossed bathing suits there). Have a great time! Regards, Tom

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Trouble is, if the weather is too bad to fly, most of the women won’t be on the beach.  On the other hand you can always fish in the rain.  Enjoy the trip. Brian E. High wing sissy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Being stuck in Key West won’t be so bad if you are smart enough to remember your fishing gear . You know, that’s a terribly obvious statement but one I haven’t really considered. There are worse things than being stranded on a beach filled with women wearing them butt-flossing suits. Thanks, — Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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WHY in God’s name do they tell me about Iranian airspace restrictions when I’m flying from Houston to Austin?  

Seems to me there’s a question about non-associated FDC NOTAMS, and you have to appropriately answer the question about declining to see them. If you don’t answer the question the right way, then you get the Iranian and Afghani airspace restrictions as well as the ones about not transporting Ferdinand Marcos’s body.  At least that’s the way the Contel/GTE/whoeverytheyarenow DUATS (duats.com) system works. Larry

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You’re going to Key West right?  More likely to see lots of guys in butt-flossing suits. Hairy butts in a butt-flosser?  Eeewww! I’ll have nightmares tonight.  Thanks.

Uck!!! Gee Jim, thanks a lot for bring up that eventuality.  I am going to go thrown up now.

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Being stuck in Key West won’t be so bad if you are smart enough to remember your fishing gear .

You know, that’s a terribly obvious statement but one I haven’t really considered. There are worse things than being stranded on a beach filled with women wearing them butt-flossing suits. Thanks, — Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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There are worse things than being stranded on a beach filled with women wearing them butt-flossing suits.

You’re going to Key West right?  More likely to see lots of guys in butt-flossing suits. You should have flown down last weekend for Fantasy Fest.  Its held in Key West every year the weekend before Halloween.  Its a combination Mardi Gras, Halloween sort of thing.  Two years ago, when my wife and I flew down for Fantasy Fest, the airport was crammed chock full with airplanes.  The guy in the golf cart from the FBO said my wife and I were one of the few couples to arrive with clothes on that afternoon.  Apparently its a fun thing to fly naked. On a serious note, if your flight segment includes Naples to Key West be sure and file a DVFR flight plan.  Its mandatory.   VFR flights from Miami along the keys do not require DVFR flight plans even though the route of flight crosses the ADIZ.  Check out your AF/D for more information. Many people think its safer to fly to Key West from Miami along the chain of islands as opposed to directly across the Florida Bay (via Victor 225 or B9 if you have an ADF or GPS).  I’m not so sure.  As you can see on the sectional there are very few airports, public or private, in the keys.  If you lose an engine you probably aren’t going to be able to make a successful landing on US 1 (the only road in the keys) and with no fields or open spaces its the water, the mangrove swamps, or shopping centers to land in. Finally be sure and watch out of R-2916.  The government launches a 14,000 ft high tethered balloon there with radar to catch drug smugglers or whatever.  You sure don’t want to wander off course and fly into it. Have Fun!   I wish I was joining you! Regards, Tom

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I don’t know nuttin ’bout no Parrotheads! Have flying lessons on Friday. But sounds like a great trip!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Regardless of the weather, you are absolutely going to need a designated pilot. Well, I was planning to designate *myself* as designated pilot.  Perhaps you are speaking of a designated IFR pilot in, perhaps, a designated Saratoga? You offering? — Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180 Anyone wanna tackle this? I’m planning to go to Key West in a couple of days.  VFR.  Jimmy Buffet Parrothead convention. I’ll be flying from PDK (Atlanta) to EYW (Key West) departing Friday morning and coming back Sunday. My decision, right now, is to go. Just for the sake of discussion (and if anyone would like to take the time), what’s the weather/trip look like to you experienced fellers?  What sources of info do you base your assessment on? Up ’till now, all my x/c hops have been relatively short 300nm trips and weather during those times has been very predictable and easy to understand. This time, though, I’m looking at a wandering jet stream and a big, nasty, slooooow moving front that bisects the USA.  Then we have some sorta cloud cover in the Gulf that’s moving towards the Florida panhandle. Oh, and yeah, yeah, I’m studying for the instrument exam so don’t go there! Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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Being stuck in Key West won’t be so bad if you are smart enough to remember your fishing gear . Mike MU-2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anyone wanna tackle this? I’m planning to go to Key West in a couple of days.  VFR.  Jimmy Buffet Parrothead convention. I’ll be flying from PDK (Atlanta) to EYW (Key West) departing Friday morning and coming back Sunday. My decision, right now, is to go. Just for the sake of discussion (and if anyone would like to take the time), what’s the weather/trip look like to you experienced fellers?  What sources of info do you base your assessment on? Up ’till now, all my x/c hops have been relatively short 300nm trips and weather during those times has been very predictable and easy to understand. This time, though, I’m looking at a wandering jet stream and a big, nasty, slooooow moving front that bisects the USA.  Then we have some sorta cloud cover in the Gulf that’s moving towards the Florida panhandle. Oh, and yeah, yeah, I’m studying for the instrument exam so don’t go there! Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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Regardless of the weather, you are absolutely going to need a designated pilot.

Well, I was planning to designate *myself* as designated pilot.  Perhaps you are speaking of a designated IFR pilot in, perhaps, a designated Saratoga? You offering? — Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone wanna tackle this? I’m planning to go to Key West in a couple of days.  VFR.  Jimmy Buffet Parrothead convention. I’ll be flying from PDK (Atlanta) to EYW (Key West) departing Friday morning and coming back Sunday. My decision, right now, is to go. Just for the sake of discussion (and if anyone would like to take the time), what’s the weather/trip look like to you experienced fellers?  What sources of info do you base your assessment on? Up ’till now, all my x/c hops have been relatively short 300nm trips and weather during those times has been very predictable and easy to understand. This time, though, I’m looking at a wandering jet stream and a big, nasty, slooooow moving front that bisects the USA.  Then we have some sorta cloud cover in the Gulf that’s moving towards the Florida panhandle. Oh, and yeah, yeah, I’m studying for the instrument exam so don’t go there! Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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Anyone wanna tackle this? I’m planning to go to Key West in a couple of days.  VFR.  Jimmy Buffet Parrothead convention. I’ll be flying from PDK (Atlanta) to EYW (Key West) departing Friday morning and coming back Sunday. My decision, right now, is to go. Just for the sake of discussion (and if anyone would like to take the time), what’s the weather/trip look like to you experienced fellers?  What sources of info do you base your assessment on? Up ’till now, all my x/c hops have been relatively short 300nm trips and weather during those times has been very predictable and easy to understand. This time, though, I’m looking at a wandering jet stream and a big, nasty, slooooow moving front that bisects the USA.  Then we have some sorta cloud cover in the Gulf that’s moving towards the Florida panhandle. Oh, and yeah, yeah, I’m studying for the instrument exam so don’t go there! Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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Regardless of the weather, you are absolutely going to need a designated pilot.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone wanna tackle this? I’m planning to go to Key West in a couple of days.  VFR.  Jimmy Buffet Parrothead convention. I’ll be flying from PDK (Atlanta) to EYW (Key West) departing Friday morning and coming back Sunday. My decision, right now, is to go. Just for the sake of discussion (and if anyone would like to take the time), what’s the weather/trip look like to you experienced fellers?  What sources of info do you base your assessment on? Up ’till now, all my x/c hops have been relatively short 300nm trips and weather during those times has been very predictable and easy to understand. This time, though, I’m looking at a wandering jet stream and a big, nasty, slooooow moving front that bisects the USA.  Then we have some sorta cloud cover in the Gulf that’s moving towards the Florida panhandle. Oh, and yeah, yeah, I’m studying for the instrument exam so don’t go there! Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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Or, if the return date is not essential, then I figure spending a few extra days at the destination won’t be so bad.

That would suck being trapped in Key West… One thing to consider is that central/south FL have very distinct wet and dry seasons.   The dry season is beginning about now and will reach it’s peak during January.  It hardly ever rains during that time, but if a "cold" front makes it that far south it can get VERY windy. tim PP-ASEL

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Jim, The question I always ask myself when confronted with conditions like this is "how critical is it that I get back on the day I plan to return."   If I don’t have any latitude and absolutely need to be home then I’ll scrub the flight or resign myself to possibly having to return home commercially and return later to pick up the plane. Or, if the return date is not essential, then I figure spending a few extra days at the destination won’t be so bad. It’s not unusual for me to make a final decision on the morning of the outbound flight based upon that day’s weather and the future forcast. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Anyone wanna tackle this? I’m planning to go to Key West in a couple of days.  VFR.  Jimmy Buffet Parrothead convention. I’ll be flying from PDK (Atlanta) to EYW (Key West) departing Friday morning and coming back Sunday. My decision, right now, is to go. Just for the sake of discussion (and if anyone would like to take the time), what’s the weather/trip look like to you experienced fellers?  What sources of info do you base your assessment on? Up ’till now, all my x/c hops have been relatively short 300nm trips and weather during those times has been very predictable and easy to understand. This time, though, I’m looking at a wandering jet stream and a big, nasty, slooooow moving front that bisects the USA.  Then we have some sorta cloud cover in the Gulf that’s moving towards the Florida panhandle. Oh, and yeah, yeah, I’m studying for the instrument exam so don’t go there! Jim Fisher North Alabama Cherokee 180

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I will be making my first trip to Yosemite National Park at the end of the week and would be interested in hearing what specific recommendations people have for specific areas to flyfish for trout while I am there.  I do not have a float tube, so they would need to be lakes that are fly-fishable from the bank/wadable or  streams/creeks that are accessible for a daytrip/hike.  I am looking for areas, perhaps, where the fishing pressure hasn’t been excessive (if that exists) and someone of my beginner-intermediate skills would have a reasonable chance having fish take my fly.  Areas with plenty, albeit small trout are a-ok by me. I have tried to do some reading and one area I wondered about was the Dana Fork of the Tuolemne? Any thoughts or other rec’s? Thank you very much in advance.

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Try Rafferty Creek in Tuolomne Meadows or go over 120 (Tioga Pass) and go to 395, then try the Owens drainage…large browns starting to spawn now! Larry #:)# www.sierraflyfish.com has some info (no affiliation)

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June 14, 1998 Montauk Sportfishing Report I

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Rogue River Rifleworks 1317 Spring Street Paso Robles, CA 93466 805/227-4706 805/227-4723 This is a new company neaded by Geoff Miller, who came from the aerospace industry and high power shoting. They make boxlock and side lock double rifles, and customize M88 Win lever guns into very high grade rifles. The double rifles use modern mfg methods to cut costs. I understand they use CNC machines and fitting techniques to eliminate the English hand regulation process. Boxlocks start at $11,750 (Anson & Deeley action, .470, .500 and .577 Nitro Express), sidelocks start at $17,250 (Holland & Holland Pattern, .470, .500 and .577 NE). The lever guns are $3,750 (.243 Win, .260 Rem, 7mm-08, .308 and .358 Win). I handled their guns at the SCI show in Las Vegas, and they are very nice. I particularily liked their M88 Win. Worth investigating. Quality is what you would expect at these prices. Craig Boddington (who now lives in Paso Robles) is their technical advisor…jim dodd San Diego

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Can anyone name some hunting outfitters accessible by internet? Thanks

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Contact Wayne Stufflebean at Ventures Outdoors(EMAIL) ventures    Wayne has contacts with outfitters of all kinds. I booked a hunt through him this past year and was 100% pleased before, during and after the hunt. Cazadore

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I’m a hunting outfitter and somewhat of a cyber junkie. Check out my pages. Can anyone name some hunting outfitters accessible by internet? Thanks

– Brian D. Nelson, Missoula, Montana Montana Flyfishing and Hunting Outfitter http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm http://www.montana.com/dno/hunt.htm

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A non-computerized friend of mine is looking for two rods to purchase- a Sage 4 piece 9 foot 5weight LL and a Sage 4 piece  9 foot 4 weight LL. Please e-mail me and I will contact him.

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A non-computerized friend of mine is looking for two rods to purchase- a Sage 4 piece 9 foot 5weight LL and a Sage 4 piece  9 foot 4 weight LL. Please e-mail me and I will contact him.

Hi I recommend the River’s Edge at 406-586-5373. They have rods as well as blanks. Their blanks a very reasonably priced. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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As I am new to flyfishing,(nearly 1 year), I have become an avid fly tier market today? If all of the Pinot Noir wines were set in front of me I’m sure I couldn’t tell one from the other after I got to a certain priceSt.Croix $50.00 blank and a Sage $250.00 blank. Is Thomas and Thomas really different from a Powell, or a Sage, or a Scott, or an Orvis? I would like to hear your response, and hope perhaps that the ability to define the differences is something I can look forward to as I get more proficient in my casting. Thanks. DLowe21757

I’m sorry to hear you cannot tell the difference between Pinot Noirs.   You picked a good one to work with tho’, maybe someday you will be able to appreciate the many differences.  The same is true of flyrods.  A Winston or T & T do not cast anything like a Sage or Loomis or Orvis.   Actually Loomis makes rods for a great majority of rod companies, built to their (other Co.) specifications.  At you stage of development a Sage or Orvis would probably be a good choice.  You will soon wish you hadn’t wasted your time, if you build a rod from a cheap noodlely brank.  Go to a shop where you can cast these rods.  Their actions are quite different, and the deciding factor would be your casting style. -Burton

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As I am new to flyfishing,(nearly 1 year), I have become an avid fly opposite problem.  The moral of the story is, you have to try the rod (or have an experienced caster try it for you) before you buy a rod, line, reel combination..  The line ratings on cheap rods can be very misleading.

Not only can the ratings be misleading, but some of them specify a range of ratings like 4,5 wt. or 4,5,6-wt.  So where do you start if you don’t happen to have a collection of lines laying around both in DT and WF (these can load the rod differently), especially if you are a beginner.   I would never buy a rod that was given a multiple rating, since it gave me the impression the builder wasn’t quite sure which wt. it was intended for. -Burton – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter Charles

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Dear Mr. Lowe Mr.Burton told you correctly, except of course that the St Croix is an excellent blank for the money.  Believe it or not, Lee Wulff Fished St Croix fly rods I never fished a St  Croix I didn’t like. Mr. Gink

Yo George, Sorry I omitted one of your favorite rods.  I am not familar with St. Croix myself, the ones I have tried were too soft for my taste.  However, I will hasten to add that St. Croix blanks are quite popular here in Oregon for building inexpensive tough salmon rods. -Burton

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Dear Mr. Lowe Mr.Burton told you correctly, except of course that the St Croix is an excellent blank for the money.  Believe it or not, Lee Wulff Fished St Croix fly rods many, many times and regarded them as top of the line equipment.  I’m sure, if they were good enough for Lee Wulff they will be good enough first choice for you.  Build it, try it, fish it and then let me know how you ‘REALLY’ like it.

I never fished a St  Croix I didn’t like. Mr. Gink

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Grow up and get a life!  If you have a "head in the sand" approach to flyfishing that’s fine, but don’t try to foist it on the rest of us.  Most fly fishers enjoy a variety of approaches to catch, and often release, a variety of fish species.   To each his or her own.

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Can anyone reccomend a good guide/outfitter near Marathon Key?  We will be there in January and are just frothing at the mouth to wet a fly.

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Try calling Tim Carlisle in Sugarloaf Key.  He can be reached at TJ’s Sugar Shack in Sugarloaf.  The number is listed in information (305 area code).  Sorry I don’t have my phone book with me.  You can also rent a boat at TJ’s and do it yourself.    If you are brave of heart, and a very good fly-fishing angler then call Lenny Moffo.  You can reach him through SEA BOOTS OUTFITTERS.  Tell them that I recomended Lenny but be prepared to have a hard day of fishing if you are not at the top of your game.  Lenny is a cantancorous (sp?) prick but he will put you on more fish than any other guide in the Keys or Everglades. Good luck! Ralph Curd

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Gil drake and Jose Wejebe call information for the florida keys I think there both in key west. Mark Gervase

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The Keys guides I have most enjoyed fishing with:         1) Bob Trosset in Key West (1-305-294-5801, I think)         3. Tom DeMoss in Islamorada  (1-305-852-9359)         Trosset is one of the deservedly famous flats guides, so he’s hard to book, but it’s always worth a call, in case he has a cancellation. Cutchin is less well known, but also heavily booked. I booked DeMoss on short notice through the concierge at Cheeca Lodge.         Besides being good guides who will put you into fish and make you a better fisherman than you would be without them (which is what guiding is supposed to be all about), these three guys are also fun to fish with. Some famous guides are so unpleasant and irascible, I wouldn’t fish them even if they paid me instead of the usual arrangement! Book one of the three above, and you will have a fine day on the water, even if the wind is blowing hard from the northeast and the fish have lockjaw. — Gary A. Soucie – writer, editor, angler TEL 1-301-322-8373;  FAX 1-301-322-4329 3007 Crest Ave., Cheverly, MD 20785 USA

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I’ll be staying on Caliper Lake in late August and am interested in fishing other lakes in the area.  I’m interested in Walleyes and trophy Northerns.

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I’ll be staying on Caliper Lake in late August and am interested in fishing other lakes in the area.  I’m interested in Walleyes and trophy Northerns.

Would you perhaps be staying at the Caliper Lake Lodge? If so, talk to the owner (his name is Cleary (sp?)), he’ll be able to put you on the fish. We (my brothers & I) do a fly-in trip from there every fall. Caliper Lake is the take-off spot for us. Good Luck! Scott — — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – Launchpad is an experimental internet BBS. The views of its users do not necessarily represent those of UNC-Chapel Hill, OIT, or the SysOps. — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — – — –

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I’ll be staying on Caliper Lake in late August and am interested in fishing other lakes in the area.  I’m interested in Walleyes and trophy Northerns.

 Go out into Lake of the Woods if you can. There are some bays just a few  miles south of Nestor Falls with great Northern and Muskie fishing. Try  Mepps Giant Killers in fire tiger blade /black bucktail and rainbow blade  /minnow. That should get them interested. There are many areas out there  that hold good walleyes.  You might try Crow Lake if you’re interested in Muskies. Not many  Northerns there, but the Muskies are very underfished. The lake is mostly  noted for Lake Trout and so noone pays attention to anything else.  I fished the little lake just east of Nestor Falls – actually its more of  a river. Wouldn’t recommend it. Small fish and not many of them, except  for a few nice crappies.  Good luck,  Herb

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