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I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it.

Ditto. Joe F.

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I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Ditto.

Ditto ditto. I also have the C clamp base. I use that at home and the pedestal when I travel. — Charlie…

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I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Ditto. Ditto ditto. I also have the C clamp base. I use that at home and the pedestal when I travel.

For an economical, non-rotary vise, I started with the Griffin 2A.   A nice vise for not much money.   It’s worth mentioning in light of Charlie’s post that the clamp base for the Griffin and the pedestal base for the Renzetti are interchangeable between the two vises. Joe F.

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I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it.

I have the heavy-duty version of the Renzetti Traveler. I think it’s called the "Saltwater" model, but I’m not sure. Anyway, it gives me the flexibility to tie big steelhead flies, but it still works OK for small flies. I recommend the pedestal version. You can always fix it to your table with a small C-clamp.

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[posted and mailed] [snip] So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it.

FWIW (for the Western New England contingent), I just got back from BG Sporting Goods in Westfield, MA and all of their vises are 20% off, which makes their price on the Traveler with cam and pedestal base about $125.00. They also had some nice STH reels at 50% off. — TL, Tim

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Joe F. writes: I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Ditto. Joe F.

Ditto Dave

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I would recommend the Orvis rotary.

Second that George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age."                                                           —- J.W Muller

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [posted and mailed] [snip] So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Paul

Another vote here for the Traveler Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Alright, let’s not get snippy ;-) A Renzetti Presentation would be excellent and won’t cost you your left nut… /daytripper Don’t you mean Renzetti Traveler? At $325 the Presentation is approaching the left nut range.

WTF – did they go and rename the product line? Or did all those years of Reagan-era inflation triple the price? The Presentation I have sitting on my desk went for all of $130 when I bought it… /daytripper (nonplussed! ;-)

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So what vise guys.

Oh, vise guys, is it? Listen kiddo ve vas fly fishin ven your mama vas feedin you on prechewed gefilte fish!  HAH! Wolfgang i’ll give ya vise guys!    :(

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Don’t you mean Renzetti Traveler? At $325 the Presentation is approaching the left nut range. WTF – did they go and rename the product line? Or did all those years of Reagan-era inflation triple the price? The Presentation I have sitting on my desk went for all of $130 when I bought it… /daytripper (nonplussed! ;-)

and in what era was that?  The Pleistocene? Peter (who paid more for his in deflated Northern Pesos)

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My folks gave me a Regal for Christmas about 15 years ago. Have never had a problem, still using it today. Mine is a little different than this newer model, (no swivel head) but the jaws are pretty much the same. Great vise! http://www.worleybuggerflyco.com/flytyingtools/Regal_Vises.htm Good luck, JRT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill

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[posted and mailed] [snip] So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill

I have the Renzetti Travler (pedestal) and really like it. Paul

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(I can be pretty abusive).  

Though, from what I’ve read here, you are mostly self-abusive. Kevin Wait, that doesn’t sound right…

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So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Alright, let’s not get snippy ;-) A Renzetti Presentation would be excellent and won’t cost you your left nut… /daytripper

Don’t you mean Renzetti Traveler? At $325 the Presentation is approaching the left nut range. Paul

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I would choose flyfishing over drinking, doing drugs, cheating on your spouse, or collecting beanie babies . . . but that’s just my opinion. Memphis Jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think I have it narrowed down to these. I will have to have pedestal base. So when pricing I have just added it in. I like these over at: www.hookhackle.com STANDARD VISES AA vise left and Super II vise right A) AA Vise. Cam closing. Adjustable height. Ideal starter vise for beginners.Item No. 6AAVISE B) Super II Rotating Vise. C-clamp. Black finish. Lever action. Knob on side of vise allows full 360 degree rotation. Jaws will handle hooks in range of 4/0 to 22. Adjustable height and angle. This is a top quality vise and our favorite! Item No. 9408103

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So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Alright, let’s not get snippy ;-) A Renzetti Presentation would be excellent and won’t cost you your left nut… /daytripper

But still three times more than his highest-priced choice. Just slightly above your price range is the Thompson A Vise, at around $35- $40 at many fly shops. The advantage over all the vises Cabelas has on that page is a stellar reputation for being a very functional utilitarian vise that will last for years and years.  If anything on it breaks, its easily and cheaply replaceable, without buying a whole new vise. — Scott Reverse first field of address to reply

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http://www.mossycreek.com/orvis_rotary.htm I would recommend the Orvis rotary.  I got the original of this, made by Danica while over in the UK.  Its not as pretty as a Renzetti, but its a vise that will be passed down and used by your great grand kids even after the most abusive use you can think of (I can be pretty abusive).  All this for only $80.  I’ve even gotten a couple of professional tiers to switch (Mike Martinek for one). — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think I have it narrowed down to these. I will have to have pedestal base. So when pricing I have just added it in. I like these over at: www.hookhackle.com STANDARD VISES AA vise left and Super II vise right A) AA Vise. Cam closing. Adjustable height. Ideal starter vise for beginners.Item No. 6AAVISE B) Super II Rotating Vise. C-clamp. Black finish. Lever action. Knob on side of vise allows full 360 degree rotation. Jaws will handle hooks in range of 4/0 to 22. Adjustable height and angle. This is a top quality vise and our favorite! Item No. 9408103 …2 2 .00 PEDESTAL BASE Designed for the vises above, but can be used with any 3/8" stemmed vise. Over at: www.cabelas.com I like their vises, kind of leaning toward the Atlantic http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal- pod.jhtml;jsessio nid=DYSOZMKXN0VA0CWQNVECFFAK0BWUMIV0?id=0011423&navAction=push&navCount =9&i n dexId=cat20534&parentId=cat20534&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabela s%2F e n%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fpod- link.jhtml.2_A&_DAV=http%3A%2F%2Fa1460.g.akamai.n et%2Fv%2F1460%2F1339%2F6h%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcontent%2F Pod% 2 F01%2F14%2F23%2Fp011423ii01.jpg Please help me decide. I also like the Super 2 at hook and hackle Bill Mc That has to be the most effed-up url ever posted here…

Believe it or not, I just selected the whole deal in Xnews, right clicked and selected "Edit URL", hit OK, and it took me right to the page. Xnews rocks! — Scott Reverse first field of address to reply

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So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink.

Alright, let’s not get snippy ;-) A Renzetti Presentation would be excellent and won’t cost you your left nut… /daytripper

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 http://www.nor-vise.com/norviseinfo.html Best ever. Mr.G.

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So what vise guys. Sorry I copied and pasted the llink. Bill

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Gee, that link was easy to put back together!  Next time, try www.makeashorterlink.com http://makeashorterlink.com/?C30C24E62

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think I have it narrowed down to these. I will have to have pedestal base. So when pricing I have just added it in. I like these over at: www.hookhackle.com STANDARD VISES AA vise left and Super II vise right A) AA Vise. Cam closing. Adjustable height. Ideal starter vise for beginners.Item No. 6AAVISE B) Super II Rotating Vise. C-clamp. Black finish. Lever action. Knob on side of vise allows full 360 degree rotation. Jaws will handle hooks in range of 4/0 to 22. Adjustable height and angle. This is a top quality vise and our favorite! Item No. 9408103 2 .00 PEDESTAL BASE Designed for the vises above, but can be used with any 3/8" stemmed vise. Over at: www.cabelas.com I like their vises, kind of leaning toward the Atlantic http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal- pod.jhtml;jsessio nid=DYSOZMKXN0VA0CWQNVECFFAK0BWUMIV0?id=0011423&navAction=push&navCount=9& i n dexId=cat20534&parentId=cat20534&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2 F e n%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fpod- link.jhtml.2_A&_DAV=http%3A%2F%2Fa1460.g.akamai.n et%2Fv%2F1460%2F1339%2F6h%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcontent%2FPod% 2 F01%2F14%2F23%2Fp011423ii01.jpg Please help me decide. I also like the Super 2 at hook and hackle Bill Mc

That has to be the most effed-up url ever posted here…

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I think I have it narrowed down to these. I will have to have pedestal base. So when pricing I have just added it in. I like these over at: www.hookhackle.com STANDARD VISES AA vise left and Super II vise right A) AA Vise. Cam closing. Adjustable height. Ideal starter vise for beginners.Item No. 6AAVISE B) Super II Rotating Vise. C-clamp. Black finish. Lever action. Knob on side of vise allows full 360 degree rotation. Jaws will handle hooks in range of 4/0 to 22. Adjustable height and angle. This is a top quality vise and our favorite! Item No. 9408103 2 .00 PEDESTAL BASE Designed for the vises above, but can be used with any 3/8" stemmed vise. Over at: www.cabelas.com I like their vises, kind of leaning toward the Atlantic http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal- pod.jhtml;jsessio nid=DYSOZMKXN0VA0CWQNVECFFAK0BWUMIV0?id=0011423&navAction=push&navCount=9&i n dexId=cat20534&parentId=cat20534&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2F e n%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fpod- link.jhtml.2_A&_DAV=http%3A%2F%2Fa1460.g.akamai.n et%2Fv%2F1460%2F1339%2F6h%2Fwww.cabelas.com%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcontent%2FPod% 2 F01%2F14%2F23%2Fp011423ii01.jpg Please help me decide. I also like the Super 2 at hook and hackle Bill Mc — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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fly fishing @ fork

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Thanks for the info.  I’ll have to try the "Prissy".  I figure even with the 5wt it ought to be fun just trying.

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…  I’d like to try out my first fly rod and wondered if anyone had any suggestions on what to throw? Oh yea,  my only rod (so far) is a 5wt …

Poppers, the bigger the better but whatever you can cast. I like deer hair poppers but they’re real wind eaters. The weedless ones are best, they have a loop of heavy mono tied in to surround the hook point. Use a short & heavy leader, ie less than 7′ and tapered from .021 (~ 50 lb test) or so down to about a 3X or even 2X. Some folks don’t even worry about taper when tossing big bass poppers and just use 6 or 7 foot of moderately heavy (30-40 lb test) mono. You can catch big bass on a 5wt but you’d be better off with a heavier rig, especially if you need to horse ‘em out of the weeds. — Ken Fortenberry

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<<I’ll be down in Tx early in April and have the opportunity to fish lake fork.  Bass should be in the shallows and i’ve been told it’s a good opportunity to do some sight fishing.   I’d like to try out my first fly rod and wondered if anyone had any suggestions on what to throw? Oh yea,  my only rod (so far) is a 5wt so I suspect I can’t throw the monster bugs. You will be here at a very good time. From the first of April until tmid June is the best time for fly fishing Laker Fork. If you are using a 5 wt rod I would advise taking an extra. This is also a very good time for blue gill and crappie. They are huge and will be just right for your 5 wt. . I usually use 17 lb. leader at Lake Fork. No taper. These fish aren’t leader shy. Even the big bass will hit small poppers. A favorite of mine is called "Miss Prissy". You can buy them at WalMart for less than you can make them. It may still be a little early for poppers. If so, try something like chartruese or white wooly buggers or zonkers. The fish that you see are probably bedding fish. Cast to them but if they ignore it leave them alone to spawn. You will see people torment them until they are able to snag them. There are a couple of good fly fishing guides on the lake if you need one.

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I’ll be down in Tx early in April and have the opportunity to fish lake fork.  Bass should be in the shallows and i’ve been told it’s a good opportunity to do some sight fishing.   I’d like to try out my first fly rod and wondered if anyone had any suggestions on what to throw? Oh yea,  my only rod (so far) is a 5wt so I suspect I can’t throw the monster bugs. thanks in advance for any suggestions or tips.

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Goddard Caddis

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…so walt, that explains why you were so easily hooked, eh??

doncha be callin’ me a fish, jeff. genetically-impaired….no problemo, but fish, no way. well, walt, some of us need a bit of a challenge ya know…those tight loops and free casts you throw are just way too easy…and, anybody can tie a knot with their hands (btw, that was a surgeon’s loop you witnessed me create in the air) …i need me some trees, rocks, and fishin buddies to carom my flies off… seems only sportin. how to explain it???  karma, man, pure karma… jeff (applying the billiards zen theory to ff)

as rene (georgie’s honey-bun from rap) once said here at roff… "oh, it’s a zen thingy". on a more serious note….i hope you guy’s aren’t getting pounded with rain again. waldo

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hate to hear you’ve lost the knack, so…out of pure, gawldang southern empathy, anytime you can make yer way to north carolina i’d be honored to help you re-instill the fine art of tree catchin…i excel in the skill… i can personally vouch for jeff’s innate ability to catch anything but the occasional genetically-impaired fish….

…so walt, that explains why you were so easily hooked, eh?? he actually caught a fish after yanking the fly out of a tree….put the darndest "wind" knot in the line i’ve ever seen. the fly landed on the water…hookset, and wallah… biggest fish of the day. i’m not gonna even try and explain it…i wouldn’t even know how.

well, walt, some of us need a bit of a challenge ya know…those tight loops and free casts you throw are just way too easy…and, anybody can tie a knot with their hands (btw, that was a surgeon’s loop you witnessed me create in the air) …i need me some trees, rocks, and fishin buddies to carom my flies off… seems only sportin. how to explain it???  karma, man, pure karma… jeff (applying the billiards zen theory to ff) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – waldo :) — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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hate to hear you’ve lost the knack, so…out of pure, gawldang southern empathy, anytime you can make yer way to north carolina i’d be honored to help you re-instill the fine art of tree catchin…i excel in the skill… jeff (holder of the state record for leaf-fish)

i can personally vouch for jeff’s innate ability to catch anything but the occasional genetically-impaired fish….hell, he even hooked my arm and i thought i was safe behind that boulder. damndest thing…he actually caught a fish after yanking the fly out of a tree….put the darndest "wind" knot in the line i’ve ever seen. the fly landed on the water…hookset, and wallah… biggest fish of the day. i’m not gonna even try and explain it…i wouldn’t even know how. waldo :) — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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,,,<snipped some stuff… I was a really expert tree catcher in those days -lost the knack a bit since. Thanks again Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

hate to hear you’ve lost the knack, so…out of pure, gawldang southern empathy, anytime you can make yer way to north carolina i’d be honored to help you re-instill the fine art of tree catchin…i excel in the skill… jeff (holder of the state record for leaf-fish)

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Tony, I tied a few of Andre Puyans Loop Wing’s and they seemed to hold up just fine.  I didn’t notice any improvement in catching fish Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2.

<snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I remember reading an article by John Veniard on the Andre Puyans Loop Wing Dun in ‘Trout & Salmon’ back in the early 70s. The piece was reproduced in ‘Modern Fly-Tying Techniques’, by John Veniard and Donald Downs. At the time, I never had the confidence that those loop wings would hold up for any distance with me: I was a really expert tree catcher in those days -lost the knack a bit since. Tony Deacon

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Not knockin’ your knowledge of the G&H Sedge Tony, but truth be known, it was ACTUALLY a threesome that developed this fly. The pattern was thought up as a collaboration by three tyers and fishermen, one who didn’t want any credit for his part in developing the fly, a guy named Andre Puyans…

(interesting history snipped) I’m indebted to you Larry. I didn’t know that Andre Puyans had a hand in the G&H. Credit where it’s due! I have at least a nodding acquaintance with John Goddard. He was very good about providing me with articles, at short notice sometimes, when I edited the quarterly magazine of the Fly Dressers’ Guild a few years back. He has probably forgotten more about angling than most of us will every know. Very dry sense of humour. Now, if only Andy can get full credit for his Loop Wing Dun and his line of AP Nymphs, among other flies he’s developed over the years…

I remember reading an article by John Veniard on the Andre Puyans Loop Wing Dun in ‘Trout & Salmon’ back in the early 70s. The piece was reproduced in ‘Modern Fly-Tying Techniques’, by John Veniard and Donald Downs. At the time, I never had the confidence that those loop wings would hold up for any distance with me: I was a really expert tree catcher in those days -lost the knack a bit since. Thanks again Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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it thick, the thicker the better

CarefulDave.I am not one of them, but you should see how one of the members of The Roadkill Roundtable packs deer hair…If I had not watched Bruce pack it I could have sworn it was balsa wood. Big Dale  

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Darin Minor writes:

<<I’ve been looking for the pattern for this fly for some time. Could somebody please post it for me? Thanks in advance, Hook:  Dry fly Thread:  Gray or black Body:  Natural deer hair, spun and trimmed into the whap of a           wing adult caddisfly Antennae:  Two stems of a brown hack with the barbs stripped. Hackle:  Brown. The original recipe called for a small piece of bright green fur (or dubbing) spun in at the back as a first step and then pulled forward and tied off as a final step.  However, I have never seen one tied with this option. If you hate to spin deer hair, this ain’t the pattern for you.  Pack it thick, the thicker the better. Dave LaCourse

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Darin Minor writes: <<I’ve been looking for the pattern for this fly for some time. Could somebody please post it for me? Thanks in advance, Hook:  Dry fly Thread:  Gray or black Body:  Natural deer hair, spun and trimmed into the whap of a           wing adult caddisfly Antennae:  Two stems of a brown hack with the barbs stripped. Hackle:  Brown. The original recipe called for a small piece of bright green fur (or dubbing) spun in at the back as a first step and then pulled forward and tied off as a final step.  However, I have never seen one tied with this option. If you hate to spin deer hair, this ain’t the pattern for you.  Pack it thick, the thicker the better. Dave LaCourse

Thanks for posting the pattern Dave. Darin

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(snip for brevity) <<May I make the plea that Cliff Henry is remembered and given the credit he is due by using the original name: the ‘G&H Sedge’? Thank you for the history lesson, Tony.  I am a great afcionado of the Goddard Caddis.  I fish it almost exclusively on some rivers.  I tie is down to a size 18, but 16s and 14s are used most.  Because of its bouyancy, it is a great fly to skitter.  It will be tough to call it the G&H Sedge, but I will give it a try.  <g  And, of course, when folks question me I will have to give *them* a history lesson. Dave LaCourse

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The pattern popularly known as the ‘Goddard Caddis’ was originally called the ‘G&H Sedge’ and was a collaboration between John Goddard and the late Cliff Henry. I share the belief with many that the G&H is one of the truly great dry fly designs of all time. Because it is positively buoyant, even without proofing, one can fish it on a pitch black night with absolute confidence that it is still on the surface. It has caught me literally hundreds of brown and rainbow trout and many dozens of sea trout, fished as a ‘wake’ fly on the blackest of nights. May I make the plea that Cliff Henry is remembered and given the credit he is due by using the original name: the ‘G&H Sedge’? Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

I’ve been looking for the pattern for this fly for some time. Could somebody please post it for me? Thanks in advance, Darin

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Not knockin’ your knowledge of the G&H Sedge Tony, but truth be known, it was ACTUALLY a threesome that developed this fly. The pattern was thought up as a collaboration by three tyers and fishermen, one who didn’t want any credit for his part in developing the fly, a guy named Andre Puyans.  Andy was sitting with John and Cliff one of the nights they were developing this fly and actually came up with the idea of the spun and clipped hair.  Story is by the time they had the "final product" tied, they were all in quite a drunken stupor and were quite pleased with their efforts, but didn’t really know what they came up with until the next morning when they were sober!! One of the features of the patten that has seemed to vanish into the dust is the spun fur dubbing strip of green hare (or originally seal) that was left hanging from the rear of the hook until the fly was completed, then pulled forward under the belly before tying in the antennae and hackling the fly. Another tip I shared with someone earlier today was to make the fly have a more "mottled" appearance like sedges naturally do, blend caribou and antelope along with deer to get the "blotchy" colors that are seen in a sedge’s wings.  The antennae are optional, but sure look nice on the finished fly….stripped coachman brown hackle quills are my favorite, but moose looks nice too.  Tie in the hackle quills just forward of the finished and trimmed body by the butts, leaving the tips on the hackles, then trim them after hackling the fly. Andy ties this patten at demos he does at some shows and tells the story, giving FULL CREDIT to both John Goddard and Cliff Henry when he does…and he says "It’s known now as the Goddard Caddis, but the TRUE name of the fly is the G&H Sedge" Larry #:)# Now, if only Andy can get full credit for his Loop Wing Dun and his line of AP Nymphs, among other flies he’s developed over the years…

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The pattern popularly known as the ‘Goddard Caddis’ was originally called the ‘G&H Sedge’ and was a collaboration between John Goddard and the late Cliff Henry. I share the belief with many that the G&H is one of the truly great dry fly designs of all time. Because it is positively buoyant, even without proofing, one can fish it on a pitch black night with absolute confidence that it is still on the surface. It has caught me literally hundreds of brown and rainbow trout and many dozens of sea trout, fished as a ‘wake’ fly on the blackest of nights. May I make the plea that Cliff Henry is remembered and given the credit he is due by using the original name: the ‘G&H Sedge’? Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Requesting information for Rocky Mountain Nat'l Park area

Requesting information for Rocky Mountain Nat'l Park area

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I’m looking to camp in RM. nat’l park this summer with the grandsons. Any recommendations for streams in or near the park? Thanks, Terry

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There are several fly shops in Estes Park check with one of those about current fishing conditions.  You can find good fishing on both sides of the continental divide.  The runoff is expected to be down a little bit from past years so the fishing should be pretty good starting the end of June in the streams and rivers.  Hope this information helps you, if you have further questions contact me at: Scot’s Sporting Goods in Estes Park. Suzanne

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Wet Weather Redfish

Wet Weather Redfish

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Don’t let a little rain dampen your fishing!  Last weekend the west coast of Florida suffered a deluge; 12 to 15 inches of rain in two days.  As crazy as it sounds two brothers from Charleston, SC showed up wanting to fish, come hell or high water.  Well, we got the high water, but the low pressure turned on the fish.  In two days we caught over 100 redfish and more than 25 snook.  We didn’t even count the trout and snapper.  All I can say is Mal and Jim Rhodes are as game a couple of crazies as their intrepid guide.        Thursday last the sky was cloudy and the air heavy with the coming storm.  Phil Saul asked me to take him snook fishing and, because Phil is an expert with a bait casting rod, I opted for top water plugs.  We took fish all morning with a variety of lures; Mirrolures, Reel Magic, Bait Busters and Zara Spooks.  The best were a 30 inch snook and a 30 inch redfish.  There is little that tops the resounding strike of a snook on top water.  It sound like a rifle report!  Kraak!      Here is a tip for anglers that love top water fishing.  When you find an active tide under a cloudy sky and a dropping barometer it’s time to pull out the big rods.  The fish will searching the mangrove edges for wayward mullet and larger bait fish.  If the water is a little choppy try a noisy bait like a Zara Spook or Jumpin’ Minnow.  When in calmer conditions go to a Mirrolure, Bait Buster or Reel Magic, lures that push water and disturb the surface.  Capt. Dennis Lily did just that last week and was rewarded with a ten snook day, all on top water. Great action!      Next week will see some different activity.  Mackerel, Bonito and Kingfish are showing up crashing the schools of bait that roam our near shore gulf water.  Some of the first winter low tides will occur causing redfish to tail on the flats.  Today we found numerous "flags" along the grass edges of fully exposed bars.  A top water fly or a surface film lure like a Reel Magic will attract a lot of attention from some very nice redfish.  Snook activity is on the increase in the back country as the fish move from the gulf into their winter locations.  Expect to find snook almost everywhere.        Our next report will include an update on inshore fishing for sheepshead and snapper.  It will not be long before a few triple tail will make their appearance on the crab trap buoys.  Watch for a subtle change to winter conditions over the next few weeks.        Until next week, keep a tight line,      Capt. Pete — http://www.floridaflyfishing.com

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wanting to fish, come hell or high water.  Well, we got the high water, but the low pressure turned on the fish.  In two days we caught over 100 redfish and more than 25 snook.  We didn’t even count the trout and snapper. Bait Busters and Zara Spooks.  The best were a 30 inch snook and a 30 inch redfish.        Until next week, keep a tight line,      Capt. Pete

Well "Capt." sure hope you were just catching and releasing all them fish. The last time I checked the limits: Redfish limit 1 (27"MAX) Snook limit 2 As far as the "we didn’t even count the trout and snapper….Here is a list for you to look over, some of us fishermen use and obey it. Amberjack…28" minimum/fork…bag 3 (New: one fish per person in Monroe County) Bluefish…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Bonefish…18" minimum/overall…bag 1 Cobia…33" minimum/fork…bag 2 Dolphin…bag 10 Drum, Black…14" min/overall…24" max/overall…bag 5 Flounder…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Grouper (a)…20" minimum/overall…bag 5 Hogfish…12" minimum/fork…bag 5 Mackerel, Spanish…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Mackerel, king…20" minimum/fork…bag 2 Marlin, blue…86" minimum (b)…bag (b) Marlin, white…62" minimum (b)…bag (b) Mullet…bag 50 per boat Permit…10" min/overall…20" max/overall…bag 10 (c) Pompano, African…24" minimum/fork…bag 2 (c) Pompano, Florida…10" minimum/fork…bag 10 (c) Redfish…18" min/overall…27" max/overall…bag 1 Sailfish…57" minimum (b)…bag (b) Seabass…8" minimum/overall Sheepshead…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Seatrout, spotted (e)…  15" min/fork…20" max/overall (e)…bag 5 Seatrout, spotted, NW zone (e)…  15" min/fork…24" max/overall (e)…bag 7 Shad…bag 10 Shark…bag 1 (f) Snapper: cubera…12" minimum/overall…bag (g) Snapper: gray (mangrove)…10" minimum/overall…bag 5 (g) Snapper: lane…8" minimum/overall Snapper: Mutton…16" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Snapper: vermilion (Atlantic)…10" minimum/overall…bag 10 Snapper: vermilion (Gulf)…8" minimum/overall Snapper: queen, blackfin, dog, mahogany, silk, yellowtail  12" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Snapper: red (Gulf)…15" minimum/overall…bag 5 (g) Snapper: red (Atlantic)…20" minimum/overall…bag 2 (g) Snapper: schoolmaster…10" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Spearfish…bag (b) Tarpon (h)…bag 2 Triggerfish, gray…12" minimum/overall Tripletail…15" minimum/fork…bag 2

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Old Crow, You just pass out insults or dip into your namesake?

Yes you do and you make highly insulting insinuations You do your namesake proud,  Hope that shoe isn’t squeezing your toes too bad.

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Old Crow, Congratulations,  You have just made the biggest blunder on any of these boards.  Capt. Pete is one of the most respected and conservation minded Capts. on the FL west coast. You just pass out insults or dip into your namesake? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – wanting to fish, come hell or high water.  Well, we got the high water, but the low pressure turned on the fish.  In two days we caught over 100 redfish and more than 25 snook.  We didn’t even count the trout and snapper. Bait Busters and Zara Spooks.  The best were a 30 inch snook and a 30 inch redfish.        Until next week, keep a tight line,      Capt. Pete Well "Capt." sure hope you were just catching and releasing all them fish. The last time I checked the limits: Redfish limit 1 (27"MAX) Snook limit 2 As far as the "we didn’t even count the trout and snapper….Here is a list for you to look over, some of us fishermen use and obey it. Amberjack…28" minimum/fork…bag 3 (New: one fish per person in Monroe County) Bluefish…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Bonefish…18" minimum/overall…bag 1 Cobia…33" minimum/fork…bag 2 Dolphin…bag 10 Drum, Black…14" min/overall…24" max/overall…bag 5 Flounder…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Grouper (a)…20" minimum/overall…bag 5 Hogfish…12" minimum/fork…bag 5 Mackerel, Spanish…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Mackerel, king…20" minimum/fork…bag 2 Marlin, blue…86" minimum (b)…bag (b) Marlin, white…62" minimum (b)…bag (b) Mullet…bag 50 per boat Permit…10" min/overall…20" max/overall…bag 10 (c) Pompano, African…24" minimum/fork…bag 2 (c) Pompano, Florida…10" minimum/fork…bag 10 (c) Redfish…18" min/overall…27" max/overall…bag 1 Sailfish…57" minimum (b)…bag (b) Seabass…8" minimum/overall Sheepshead…12" minimum/fork…bag 10 Seatrout, spotted (e)…  15" min/fork…20" max/overall (e)…bag 5 Seatrout, spotted, NW zone (e)…  15" min/fork…24" max/overall (e)…bag 7 Shad…bag 10 Shark…bag 1 (f) Snapper: cubera…12" minimum/overall…bag (g) Snapper: gray (mangrove)…10" minimum/overall…bag 5 (g) Snapper: lane…8" minimum/overall Snapper: Mutton…16" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Snapper: vermilion (Atlantic)…10" minimum/overall…bag 10 Snapper: vermilion (Gulf)…8" minimum/overall Snapper: queen, blackfin, dog, mahogany, silk, yellowtail  12" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Snapper: red (Gulf)…15" minimum/overall…bag 5 (g) Snapper: red (Atlantic)…20" minimum/overall…bag 2 (g) Snapper: schoolmaster…10" minimum/overall…bag 10 (g) Spearfish…bag (b) Tarpon (h)…bag 2 Triggerfish, gray…12" minimum/overall Tripletail…15" minimum/fork…bag 2

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Old Crow, Congratulations,  You have just made the biggest blunder on any of these boards.  Capt. Pete is one of the most respected and conservation minded Capts. on the FL west coast.

No I didn’t blunder.  I’m not the one who posted about the number or size of the catch.  If the good old Capt had posted that he caught his limit, or caught and released___ many fish, that would have been fine.   If he runs a head boat he could have stated x number aboard, his comments were I quote "In two days we caught over 100 redfish and more than 25 snook.  We didn’t even count the trout and snapper.  All I can say is Mal and Jim Rhodes are as game a couple of crazies as their intrepid guide". Now lets see…the Capt makes one, Mel and Jim make 3 times two days… by the book the limit would be SIX (6). You just pass out insults or dip into your namesake?

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » River Fly Fishing » Champlain Steelhead&Salmon

Champlain Steelhead&Salmon

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I fished Lewis Creek last Sunday with a couple of friends. Water was very high and muddy, no fish caught or seen. Rumor on the stream was one 5lb steelie taken the day before below the ‘falls’. Appreciate any info on other Champlain activity- Bouquet, Ausable, Saranac? Thanks — John Preston         *                                                                                   <`}}}}=< Ponhook F&G                                             <`}}}}=< Charleston, NS      <`}}}}=< **Please help save the Margaree !  If you’re interested, visit this website:      <<<  http://chebucto.ns.ca/Environment/CPAWS/jcb.html  

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John, Nothing happening yet on this side of the lake….haven’t heard of much on the other side(NY) either.  Water temps on Lewis are still far too cold (mid-30’s). Perhaps end of next week though. Good luck. James Ehlers                                                               Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Reel » Fly fishing the surf??

Fly fishing the surf??

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On casting in the surf.. A long rod helps (I use a 9 1/2 foot 7 weight, a 10 footer would be better) and a stripping basket is a necessity.  I also tend towards pretty stout weighted eyes on streamers an lead-head charlies (Texas coast selection here) to keep the surf from knocking them around too much.  Be sure you hang around cuts through the bars even if you’re in the wash.. Good luck, Andy Schreckenghost

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Anybody fly fish from the beach?  

There are two magazines, "Fly Fishing in Saltwater" and "Saltwater Fly Fishing", both have had articles on flyfishing from the beach.  There have also been articles detailing fly fishing from the California coast.  Fly Fishing in Saltwater also has a web site at: www.flyfishinsalt.com. While the site does not give all the information I would like about saltwater flyfishing, it is a good start.  Another web site is www.reel-time.com.  This is the Reel-Time, The Journal of Saltwater Fly fishing.  This is a pretty good site.  They have some good articles and an archive of articles that may just answer your fishing from the beach questions

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Links wanted

Links wanted

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 HI All,         I am looking for links for good fishing sites to add to my links page. If anyone has a good link or web site that isn’t already on the list could you please e-mail the address along with the title of the site and what country it is in. —   Davy Holt Surfing from Clydebank Scotland *  " O Sir, doubht not that angling is                                 *    an art… The question is rather Scottish Angling Homepage       *    whether you are capable of learning   http://www.dholt.demon.co.uk    *    it?"                                                                        Izaak Walton

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Hello, I used a great guide service in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area last year and would recommend it to anyone who was looking. Their webpage is at:  http://members.aol.com/canoetrail/bwcaw.html check it out!

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Fly fishing for Stripers in Cape Elizabeth, Maine Fly fishing for Reds on Cumberland Island, Georgia Reply:  North Atlantic Guides

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WE ARE PLANNING ON GOING TO SANNIBELL (SP?) ISLAND THIS SPRING, ANY TIPS?

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rods » Help needed to buy a rod

Help needed to buy a rod

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I am new to fly fishing and need advice on what type and brand of rod is best to buy. I will probably be doing most of my fishing on the rivers and streams of New Zealand,

Why don’t you try an E-mail to Simon Lusk who maintains the New Zealand flyfishing web page.  I don’t have his email address right now but I’m sure you can get it on the Web. Mike Ray Atlanta, GA Cashiers, NC

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(John Birnbaum) writes: I am new to fly fishing and need advice on what type and brand of rod is best to buy. I will probably be doing most of my fishing on the rivers and streams of New Zealand, I don’t know whether this has any affect on the rod I buy.

Personally I fish with the Orvis PM-10 865-4 ($485) which is an 8 1/2 ft 5wt. 4 piece rod.  There is now a 9 foot version of this rod available which will give you a little better mending, but I like the one I have. This is a great fast action rod with a delicate tip for the South Island and many of the streams & rivers of the north.  If you’re going to be fishing the rainbow runs up the feeder streams from the big lakes in the North Island, you might want a 9′ 7wt for some of the big streamers used there.  The gentleman I teach our schools with, Dean Schubert, has spent 12 months out of the last 5 years fishing the South Island of New Zealand and he prefers the PM-10 906-4 (9′ 6wt.4 piece $485).  A 4 piece rod in  8 1/2  to 9 ft. length is a good choice especially if you’re trekking though the country.  I wouldn’t suggest a rod lighter than a 5 due to the size of the trout and the need to be able to pressure the fish authoritatively at times (tough to do with a 2, 3, or 4 wt.).  Another rod that works well and is a medium fast action is the Orvis HLS RM "Spring Creek Traveler ($300 – 9ft. 5wt. that really casts a 6 wt. line).The 25 yr. "any way you can break it" guarantee doesn’t hurt either. As always you should try to cast the rods before you buy if at all possible.                 Good Luck, and I’ll try not to be too jealous of your fishing opportunities,                                                                Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Schools Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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I am new to fly fishing and need advice on what type and brand of rod is best to buy. I will probably be doing most of my fishing on the rivers and streams of New Zealand, I don’t know whether this has any affect on the rod I buy. Thanks, Dylan. I would think about Orvis fly rods. I know they are a bit uppyish but the product is very good. You can’t beat the 25 year return policy. I own an Orvis Henry’s Fork with a Battenkill 5/6 reel it’s great.

I would think about a SAGE 389-3LL (lifetime warranty!), 3piece for better transport which might be great for longer hikes or helico= pter transports in NZ. The 3 wt line is delicate enough not to spook the fish but is heavy enough to carry a trout fly well (except = very heavy streamers). The 8ft9inch length is great for roll-casting. It has a medium fast action with lots of power and delivers fl= ies on long leaders with ease and will protect your tippet if you get the real big ones which are native to NZ. You can feel the loa= ding of the rod very nicely, which does not mean that the rod is whippy or slow. I fish it with a 3wtDT/F line (Cortland, of course)=

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I am new to fly fishing and need advice on what type and brand of rod is best to buy. I will probably be doing most of my fishing on the rivers and streams of New Zealand, I don’t know whether this has any affect on the rod I buy. Thanks, Dylan.

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I am new to fly fishing and need advice on what type and brand of rod is best to buy. I will probably be doing most of my fishing on the rivers and streams of New Zealand, I don’t know whether this has any affect on the rod I buy. Thanks, Dylan.

I would think about Orvis fly rods. I know they are a bit uppyish but the product is very good. You can’t beat the 25 year return policy. I own an Orvis Henry’s Fork with a Battenkill 5/6 reel it’s great.

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Dylan,     I have never fished NZ before but I would say that your best bet for the trout that I have read about is a 3 – 7 wt rod ( ah heck, get one of each :-) ). Use the lighter rods on the spring creeks and the heavier rods for big water and windy conditions. I’d say either a 3, 6 or a 4, 7 combo would be nice and I would lean to the 3, 6 end. If you could only have one rod I would choose a 5 wt with 8-9 ft length.   As far as brands go, I would look to the British Commonwealth if NZ is a member because a rod imported from the US is going to be very expensive. Hardy and Partridge make bamboo and graphite fly rods and of course Hardy makes wonerful reels that are advertised as lifetime guaranteed. Partridge also makes great hooks. They are expensive here in the US but I pay for them because I like them.   From the US Orvis, Sage, Thomas and Thomas, Loomis, Scott et al all make great products. I personally use Orvis and Sage products. Good Luck Chuck Abbott

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » River Fly Fishing » Fly Fishing Wyoming in late April

Fly Fishing Wyoming in late April

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My brothers and I are planning a trip to Wyoming for two days of guided fishing around the Cody area in late April.  As yet, we haven’t planned for the rest of the week.  Does anyone have suggestions for good fishing, accomodations, etc., in other areas of the state.  Thanks for the help. Rob Welch

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My brothers and I are planning a trip to Wyoming for two days of guided fishing around the Cody area in late April.  As yet, we haven’t planned for the rest of the week.  Does anyone have suggestions for good fishing, accomodations, etc., in other areas of the state.  Thanks for the help

HI Rob, April is very early to be fly-fishing in the Cody area.   The only fishing that I know around Cody open that early are the Shoshone river below the Buffalo Bill dam or Newton lake out north of town.  The snow will be melting in the mountains and most of the rivers (Southfork Shoshone, Northfork Shoshone, Clark’s Fork, Sunlight) will be in the runoff mode.   You can check with Tim Wade at the North Fork Anglers to check on what will be good at that particular time. Bassflyfis/AOL Nothing perfect lasts forever.  Except in our memories. (A River Runs Through It.)

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