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I just knew it!  If I expanded on Zimmerman’s type of humor I would raise a lot of bottom dwellers.

Boy, how sad to try and push that one over. Good Mo-o-orning!  VietNam!

Sadly, you’re much more Bruno Kirby than Robin Williams.

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Sadly, you’re much more Bruno Kirby than Robin Williams.

Jeff, old pal, I’m just George.

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I am a pathetic ass.  But I’m a hell of a fly fisherman!

George, hell just called and said to come back. ginksux

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I have a friend who once fished with you, he said you were a good fisherman. That friend is the best fisherman I know, matter of fact one of the people you speak of knowing mentioned his skills in one of his books, but to talk to him about fishing, not once will he tell how good he is. Good fishermen don’t have to brag about how good they are and in the overall scheme of things, it is just not that important George. Wayne

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Wayne, you’re so correct and I agree 100%.  I didn’t realize I ever gave that impression or did that.  I’ve made a note of your constructive suggestion. Thanks, George – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a friend who once fished with you, he said you were a good fisherman. That friend is the best fisherman I know, matter of fact one of the people you speak of knowing mentioned his skills in one of his books, but to talk to him about fishing, not once will he tell how good he is. Good fishermen don’t have to brag about how good they are and in the overall scheme of things, it is just not that important George. Wayne I am a pathetic ass.  But I’m a hell of a fly fisherman!

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I am a pathetic ass.  But I’m a hell of a fly fisherman! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yup, You got us… However,  I suspect that if I wrote that "Gherke is a Pathetic Ass" not a single soul would rise to your defense How does that feel.. I just knew it!  If I expanded on Zimmerman’s type of humor I would raise a lot of bottom dwellers.  Besides, look how good his name looks strung out almost 20 times in the longest thread Steve has seen regarding himself in a long time. It takes a master to kick start this group out of its duldrums. mend . . . *sigh* . . . staring at drift . . . twitch! Good Mo-o-orning!  VietNam! Mr.G. "george, who is stir frying dog meat . . ." :  )

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yah, you’re right.  *sigh* – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – George Gehrke : "george, who is stir frying dog meat . . ." Don’t eat it, George.  Cannibalism is illegal.

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George Gehrke : "george, who is stir frying dog meat . . ."

Don’t eat it, George.  Cannibalism is illegal.

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Yup, You got us… However,  I suspect that if I wrote that "Gherke is a Pathetic Ass" not a single soul would rise to your defense How does that feel..

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just knew it!  If I expanded on Zimmerman’s type of humor I would raise a lot of bottom dwellers.  Besides, look how good his name looks strung out almost 20 times in the longest thread Steve has seen regarding himself in a long time. It takes a master to kick start this group out of its duldrums. mend . . . *sigh* . . . staring at drift . . . twitch! Good Mo-o-orning!  VietNam! Mr.G. "george, who is stir frying dog meat . . ." :  )

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I just knew it!  If I expanded on Zimmerman’s type of humor I would raise a lot of bottom dwellers.  Besides, look how good his name looks strung out almost 20 times in the longest thread Steve has seen regarding himself in a long time. It takes a master to kick start this group out of its duldrums. mend . . . *sigh* . . . staring at drift . . . twitch! Good Mo-o-orning!  VietNam! Mr.G. "george, who is stir frying dog meat . . ." :  )

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I’m still looking for some help to get Fly fishing america magazine, anyone can help me! I got the last one with the 58 travel rod review, but i would like to get the other one that will come out! please contact me directly if you can help me! Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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As some of you know i can’t get that nice magazine in Canada, some nice fellow board member sent me the last one with the review of the 58 travel rod.

Bob, here is the web page for the magazine www.flyfishamerica.com/ and I sent Bill Battles email suggesting he allow the folks in the boonies an opportunity to subscribe (or in my case prescribe) to his fine magazine. Maybe if enough of us do ask, we might be able to convince them to mail us the latest issues?  Who knows? Padishar Creel

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Fly fishing america magazine…. Thanks Padishar, They seem a bunch of nice folks tough! I’m trying to find someone who can send me copy regularly as they came out!  Too bad we can’t subscribe ‘caus i would. A canadian in distress! Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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As it happens, I’m planning to head down to the shop this afternoon.   If it’s there, I’ll get it for you.

Sorry, nothing new.   The "Travel Rod" issue was the only issue in the shop. Joe F.

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Thanks for your effort Joe, Be sure  to let me know when the next issue comes out! Thanks again! Robert Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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As some of you know i can’t get that nice magazine in Canada, some nice fellow board member sent me the last one with the review of the 58 travel rod. Is the new one out yet if so, would somebody be kind enough to send me two copies! I’ll cover the shipping! Please get in touch with me

Your timing is very good Robert.   As it happens, I’m planning to head down to the shop this afternoon.   If it’s there, I’ll get it for you. Joe F.

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As some of you know i can’t get that nice magazine in Canada, some nice fellow board member sent me the last one with the review of the 58 travel rod. Is the new one out yet if so, would somebody be kind enough to send me two copies! I’ll cover the shipping! Please get in touch with me Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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I live in Tucson – what can I say – it’s beautiful today, just like every other day.

Annis-MM – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic!  Been beautiful up in Wisconsin. Temperatures are still holding in the upper 40’s/50’s. We’ve even seen 70’s the past few weeks. Pretty nice for November up here.  My only "gripe" is I put the boat away back in October…. "My point being that when you argue with animal rights activist about "poor starving children" you might just as well bring up aliens from Mars. As they probably know more about that than being poor, starving or children." Verne Dale Anderson

We never put the boats away… Sea duckin and all ya know ; ) Paulette~ —  A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault really… Before you buy.

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We never put the boats away… Sea duckin and all ya know ; )

 I am turning green w/envy….  Since I don’t have a heated garage, and since it can get below zero fast this time of year, smart money is to winterize it in late October…. "My point being that when you argue with animal rights activist about "poor starving children" you might just as well bring up aliens from Mars. As they probably know more about that than being poor, starving or children." Verne Dale Anderson  

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We never put the boats away… Sea duckin and all ya know ; )  I am turning green w/envy….

heehee I know ; )  Since I don’t have a heated garage, and since it can get below zero fast this time of year, smart money is to winterize it in late October….

Well the harbour hasn’t froze up since 77,and we are a tough old bunch down here. It’s a lot warmer here, although the cold damp ocean air can be bone chilling sometimes. Paulette~ "My point being that when you argue with animal rights activist about "poor starving children" you might just as well bring up aliens from Mars. As they probably know more about that than being poor, starving or children." Verne Dale Anderson

–  A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault really… Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Guys~ I haven’t been posting much,as just have been out living the sporting life. : ) I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic! This morning got into the sailing dory,did a bit of fishing (no luck) and a lot of scalloping (mucho luck) and then two of the brown dogs,hubby ad myself,sailed into ‘Fishmonger’s" for breakfast. Everyone was taking pics of Ati and Keeper just being "perfectly beautiful" waiting at the drawbridge for us to return. It really was a classic photo.Two Chessies in a 19th Century Lowell Dory.  In fact I think I am going to do the Christmas pics this year of them all in the ‘Polly N" with them all decorated up. : ) Anyway, after a super breakfast of breakfast burritos,and great coffee, (yes, this place is a favourite) we went back to the boat,and went fly fishing for stripers. Guess what??? Got a HUGE keeper,and Keeper who is quite the "FISHERDOG",went out to retrieve it! So it’s striper for dinner,with swiss chard from the garden and stuffed broiled tomatoes,and rice pilaf… Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far… Woof! Paulette~ A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault,really…

OK, after reading your post, I have decided I hate you… *just kidding* But, your did inspire me and my wife to take some time out and go for a wonderful walk around the woods by my house. All of the leaves are pretty much gone, but it was still great, just to get out and enjoy the outdoors, even if just for a few hours. — "Life is too short, for everyone to see things my way" Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Guys~ I haven’t been posting much,as just have been out living the sporting life. : ) I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic! This morning got into the sailing dory,did a bit of fishing (no luck) and a lot of scalloping (mucho luck) and then two of the brown dogs,hubby ad myself,sailed into ‘Fishmonger’s" for breakfast. Everyone was taking pics of Ati and Keeper just being "perfectly beautiful" waiting at the drawbridge for us to return. It really was a classic photo.Two Chessies in a 19th Century Lowell Dory.  In fact I think I am going to do the Christmas pics this year of them all in the ‘Polly N" with them all decorated up. : ) Anyway, after a super breakfast of breakfast burritos,and great coffee, (yes, this place is a favourite) we went back to the boat,and went fly fishing for stripers. Guess what??? Got a HUGE keeper,and Keeper who is quite the "FISHERDOG",went out to retrieve it! So it’s striper for dinner,with swiss chard from the garden and stuffed broiled tomatoes,and rice pilaf… Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far… Woof! Paulette~ A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault,really… OK, after reading your post, I have decided I hate you…

THat’s okay you can’t get evryone to like you huh,but you can get them to respect you. Although most MEN like me ; ) woman too… *just kidding* But, your did inspire me and my wife to take some time out and go for a wonderful walk around the woods by my house.

Good I like to "inspire" All of the leaves are pretty much gone,

Oh boy haven’t raked much yet,as the leaves are still on the trees,but the place is LEAF LANE,heehee I love shuffling through the leaves,and making a pile and falling down in them. Having a small bonfire and making "s’mores". Anyone like them like I do?  but it was still great, just to get out and enjoy the outdoors, even if just for a few hours.

Yes, I am an outdoor girl, especially a water one. I’m a pisces : ) Hubby is even more the outdoorsman. His nickname is "Rugged Bear" ; ) — "Life is too short, for everyone to see things my way"

I always have to have things my way. I’m like Papa Hemingway when asked " Why does it always have to be your way?" He replied "Because I like it that way" : ) Me too… Paulette~ Before you buy.

–  A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault really… Before you buy.

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I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic! Been beautiful up in Wisconsin. Temperatures are still holding in the upper 40’s/50’s. We’ve even seen 70’s the past few weeks. Pretty nice for November up here.

Lovely here as well, temps in the +20s, no wind, and it hasn’t quit snowing since yesterday (maybe 6 inches or so since yesterday a.m.) and expected to snow for another day or two. Lots of fluff, very pretty, and I’m taking the dogs out for a snowbath later. (best way to get a dog clean during winter, toss favorite toy into a powdery snowdrift 2-3 times… we don’t have wet snow, so it gets the coat clean) My only "gripe" is I put the boat away back in October….

Ours went into the garage back in late Sept. Will be there until about Apr/May I imagine. Cat in Alaska

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I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic!

 Been beautiful up in Wisconsin. Temperatures are still holding in the upper 40’s/50’s. We’ve even seen 70’s the past few weeks. Pretty nice for November up here.  My only "gripe" is I put the boat away back in October…. "My point being that when you argue with animal rights activist about "poor starving children" you might just as well bring up aliens from Mars. As they probably know more about that than being poor, starving or children." Verne Dale Anderson  

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I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic!

    Well, Maryland (at least the Baltimore area), is having *warm* weather… a little rain last night, a misty moisty morning,  with the fog burned off to blue skies and sunshine this afternoon. We’re heading out to the lake, so the dogs can run and maybe swim, in a little bit… it’s actually warm enough for me to ditch my shoes today, hooray! (Point of note: that’s anywhere above about 40 degrees, for me. <g) So it’s striper for dinner,with swiss chard from the garden and stuffed broiled tomatoes,and rice pilaf… Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

   Sounds good….  you’re giving me ideas for dinner! Though I can’t compete with fresh-caught fish… <G – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far…

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Hi Guys~ I haven’t been posting much,as just have been out living the sporting life. : ) I don’t know about where others are,but the weather here is just fantastic! This morning got into the sailing dory,did a bit of fishing (no luck) and a lot of scalloping (mucho luck) and then two of the brown dogs,hubby ad myself,sailed into ‘Fishmonger’s" for breakfast. Everyone was taking pics of Ati and Keeper just being "perfectly beautiful" waiting at the drawbridge for us to return. It really was a classic photo.Two Chessies in a 19th Century Lowell Dory.  In fact I think I am going to do the Christmas pics this year of them all in the ‘Polly N" with them all decorated up. : ) Anyway, after a super breakfast of breakfast burritos,and great coffee, (yes, this place is a favourite) we went back to the boat,and went fly fishing for stripers. Guess what??? Got a HUGE keeper,and Keeper who is quite the "FISHERDOG",went out to retrieve it! So it’s striper for dinner,with swiss chard from the garden and stuffed broiled tomatoes,and rice pilaf… Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Everyone all good thoughts,and hope your Sunday is as great as mine has been,so far… Woof! Paulette~ A dogs life is too short…    Their only fault,really…

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I have a Cortland 7" 3/4 wt. rod, is this good for pond fishing in a canoe? I am new to fly fishing although I have 2 old 9" rods. Thanks Mike — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.

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As with so many things in life, it isn’t how big it is that matters, it’s what you do with it. I take three rods in my canoe, depending on what I’m fishing for.  For bass I use a 10ft 7 wt (big honkin’ rod).  For trout on a dry fly (or bluegills), I have a lovely 8′6" 4wt.  And for trout on streamers I prefer a 9′ 6wt.   If you canoe with someone else, consider carefully how many rods you can fit in the canoe without increasing the risk of stepping on a rod tip. I have a Cortland 7" 3/4 wt. rod, is this good for pond fishing in a canoe? I am new to fly fishing although I have 2 old 9" rods. Thanks Mike — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.

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Thanks James, You forgot to say how many rods will fit in a van before one meets up with the door as did my last one.

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Mike     I fish from a canoe also, and feel the 7 footer is a bit of a handicap since it limits how much line you can comfortably pickup. Stillwater conditions frequently call for casting in different directions on short notice,especially when the fish are really on the move, and the short rod would make me crazy. I’d recommend nothing shorter than 8 feet. Jeff

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My job will be taking me to Winnipeg, Manitoba at least once a month for the next 5 or 6 months. I’d like to do some fishing while I’m there. Any information about what, when, where and how pretaining to fishing in Manitoba would be appreciated. Thanks, d.t.

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My job will be taking me to Winnipeg, Manitoba at least once a month for the next 5 or 6 months. I’d like to do some fishing while I’m there. Any information about what, when, where and how pretaining to fishing in Manitoba would be appreciated. Thanks, d.t. D.T.   ask yahoo, " fishing manitoba"   been there ,never fished there.

great catfishing below the dam at lockport..walleyes in the muddy winnipeg. any tackle shop in winnipeg can answer all when you get there…..KW

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Amberjack will try again, he’s old, bit slow ask yahoo  "fishing manitoba"….look at any in-fisherman mag.  Ive been there,not fished there.  Great catfishing below the dam at lockport. walleyes in the muddy lake , any tackle shop can answer all when u get there..good fly in east of lake winnipeg My job will be taking me to Winnipeg, Manitoba at least once a month for the next 5 or 6 months. I’d like to do some fishing while I’m there. Any information about what, when, where and how pretaining to fishing in Manitoba would be appreciated. Thanks, d.t.

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If you do not try the lunker channel cats you are missing a near guarantee of 20+ LB fish. All you need is a heavy baitcaster and 30lb test or better superline. Hooks lead and bait are all available right there. Check it out. Joe http://www.tourism.winnipeg.mb.ca/

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I was born in wyoming and was taught to fish usin g bait casting methods.  My family bought me a fly tying outfit.  last night i tried to tie several flies using a BANTAM 1 fly tying kit from target.  I tried to follow autors directions to attach "wing" portion.  pictures were in black/white. hard to follow.  advice?

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I was born in wyoming and was taught to fish usin g bait casting methods.  My family bought me a fly tying outfit.  last night i tried to tie several flies using a BANTAM 1 fly tying kit from target.  I tried to follow autors directions to attach "wing" portion.  pictures were in black/white. hard to follow.  advice?

Go to your public library and check out several books on fly tying, read them and then keep trying until you get it right.  BTW the fish can’t care less if the fly is properly tied.  They are looking for food.   Anymore questions try the rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying newsgroup

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Previous posts on breathable waders have mentioned their durability and some problems that have developed. I wondered if there was more personal experience out there on this topic. How durable have the different breathable wader brands been in your experience (Simms microfibers, Hodgmann wadelite, LL Bean Gore-Tex, Orvis Gore-Tex and any others you know of)?

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Previous posts on breathable waders have mentioned their durability and some problems that have developed. I wondered if there was more personal experience out there on this topic. How durable have the different breathable wader brands been in your experience (Simms microfibers, Hodgmann wadelite, LL Bean Gore-Tex, Orvis Gore-Tex and any others you know of)?

Hi Jonathan, I guided 83 trips and several personal trips as well in my Simms and they worked very well. I developed one pin hole leak after charging through some wild roses but the leak was very easy to repair. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ubject:        Re: How do you spline a 4 piece rod? Huskers writes: I have never built a 4 piece rod before.  How do you spline it? Each Piece individually, two 2-piece sections or what?  The blanks in the mail so… Help! Well, consider that you cast the entire rod, not the individual sections.  Spine the entire blank, all put together. Very bad advice. You can end up with a very odd handling rod. The tip section spline and mid-section splines should be determined and the butt section, if possible, also. Buy a book on custom rod building to learn the complete procedure for splining. Del Clemens, L.A. Garcia or Skip Morris all have written good rod building books. The general method is to bend a section against a table and rotate the section at the same time. There should be two bumps or jumps during the rotation, the larger jump locates the spline. A short butt section spline might be hard to detect. Mark each section’s spline position for use during guide placement. A fly rod  built with the guides located 180 degrees from the spline. Each section’s spline will line up with the other splines when you assemble the completed rod. Don Burns IHMO, use at your own risk, etc.    

I usually locate the spline on each section of a 4 pc., then assemble it into 2 pcs and re-check. Haven’t had one move yet…

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A new web site has info on how to spline a rod. URL:       http://fishdoc.com/ Also has guide spacing for rods, looks like Sage guide spacing. Don Burns P.S. For those of you who keep asking me about why "Spin4trout", AOL for some reason doesn’t allow screen-names to start with the word "FLY". G.O.K!!!  Tried "trout"+xxx – no luck. Didn’t like troutxyz, trout069 or troutvjfvfj and other unused names. After 30 minutes of trying to get a name somehow related to flyfishing I gave up. Since I’ve used my spinning gear with my dad, fishing for lake trout since the 1960’s, I came up with "spin4trout".  Sorry guys. Now if I could find a cheap Ross C-1 or Lamson 1.0,  I might be willing to turn in my spinning rods. <G

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 I agree with the splining advise but would add one thing.  I use a weight on a piece of monofillement with a loop on the end. This I pass over the thin end of the rod piece very loosely. Then turn the section on a table as mentioned before. You can watch the weight dip. Use different size weights for each section. On the 3 weight I I built I use about 1 oz for the tip section, but about 2 lbs for the butt section.

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Very bad advice. You can end up with a very odd handling rod. The tip section spline and mid-section splines should be determined and the butt section, if possible, also. Buy a book on custom rod building to learn the complete procedure for splining. Del Clemens, L.A. Garcia or Skip Morris all have written good rod building books. The general method is to bend a section against a table and rotate the section at the same time. There should be two bumps or jumps during the rotation, the larger jump locates the spline. A short butt section spline might be hard to detect. Mark each section’s spline position for use during guide placement. A fly rod  built with the guides located 180 degrees from the spline. Each section’s spline will line up with the other splines when you assemble the completed rod. Don Burns IHMO, use at your own risk, etc.    

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My schedule will allow a trip to Northern California the first or second week of November.  How does the McCloud fish during this time(AH DI NAH)? Hatches? Flies?  What should I expect in the way of weather. Other suggestions for a week this time of year trout-bumming around? Reed Guice

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My schedule will allow a trip to Northern California the first or second week of November.  How does the McCloud fish during this time(AH DI NAH)? Hatches? Flies?  What should I expect in the way of weather. Other suggestions for a week this time of year trout-bumming around? Reed Guice

Reed  It has been my experience that it will rain, hatches will be small if at all.and HUGE browns will eat sculpins till Midnight !! It may be late for most bugs,maybe a few Fall Caddis, Baetis etc .I think the season close’s the 15th so check.   Harry

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Ah, the McCloud River.  The season closes 11/15.  Stonefly nymphs, orange stimulators for the Oct Caddis, adams 14, glo bugs, orange soft hackles, bead head caddis olive and orange will all work well.  There hasn’t been much of the famed Oct Caddis hatch so far because it hasn’t really gotten cold yet.  Early Nov could be perfect.  Of course there is a computer game called Fly Fishing the McCloud River that I saw in Orvis SF that would probably tell you exactly what will be going on in November Big Rock

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Is it just me or is sea kayaking under going a rapid de-evolution ?    I can think of no other sport that is racing back to the future like it.   Skin boats,  thin wood paddles Greenland training techniques this stuff has been in use for 10,000 years .   Can any modern R.D dept. hope to come up with any thing that can withstand that test of time?

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Is it just me or is sea kayaking under going a rapid de-evolution ?    I can think of no other sport that is racing back to the future like it.   Skin boats,  thin wood paddles Greenland training techniques this stuff has been in use for 10,000 years .   Can any modern R.D dept. hope to come up with any thing that can withstand that test of time?

 I would’nt go so far as calling it a "de-evolution", the same thing happens with just about every sport out there – equipment becomes more and more sophisticated and technologicaly advanced. The original creation that started the whole process becomes lost to history. Just because I want to build a Baidarka doesnt mean I want to hold the rest of the world back – I just want something different – something that you just dont see very often, but is also recogizable as a part of past history – which is what makes it so fun. This is the reason I fly fish instead of using the latest in bait casting reels(but I use both), I also shoot a recurve bow(but I also own a compound), and I shoot black powder ( but I also have the most modern of arms). I’d be willing to bet that the modern R&D shops can and do design kayaks and canoes that are light years more efficient and durable than past boats, but evolution is the way of the world, and what better way to evolve than to look back to the past to plan for the future?

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