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I’m relatively new to Colorado — but I’ve been flyfishing for some 16 years now (finally getting decent . I’m interested in finding some fishing partners and/or perhaps getting an informal fishing club going? I know about TU, but I’m looking more for a small group that would like to get together once or twice a month and swap fish tales and organize outings…… any interest? Or any groups like this out there?

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check out the FEderation of Flyfisher’s website.  They have links to local clubs you can check into.  Click the link for FFF clubs and look under "by state" for Colorado. http://www.fedflyfishers.org Best of luck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m relatively new to Colorado — but I’ve been flyfishing for some 16 years now (finally getting decent . I’m interested in finding some fishing partners and/or perhaps getting an informal fishing club going? I know about TU, but I’m looking more for a small group that would like to get together once or twice a month and swap fish tales and organize outings…… any interest? Or any groups like this out there? —

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Sorry there was a typo in my instructions.  It should be by region, not by state. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – check out the FEderation of Flyfisher’s website.  They have links to local clubs you can check into.  Click the link for FFF clubs and look under "by state" for Colorado. http://www.fedflyfishers.org Best of luck I’m relatively new to Colorado — but I’ve been flyfishing for some 16 years now (finally getting decent . I’m interested in finding some fishing partners and/or perhaps getting an informal fishing club going? I know about TU, but I’m looking more for a small group that would like to get together once or twice a month and swap fish tales and organize outings…… any interest? Or any groups like this out there? —

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You won’t be mindin’ if we keep an eye on where the hole card comes from.  ;-)

hell no, i was going to get Honest Wayno’s Guide Service to do the dealing.  If you can’t trust an attorney, who can you trust? Personally, I was hoping one of Big John’s gals would handle the deal. About the fish, now I know why I’ve heard stories of you going through a crate of splitshot a season.  :)

don’t know ’bout ’shot…..you’d have to talk to Matt "egg-dredgin" McCray ’bout dat. Waldo, lost two wild brookies today….man I’m rusty.

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This Clave thing presents a great opportunity for a human interest story for a FFing magazine. Here’s the concept. A bunch of crusty old flyfishers get together in NC. They have only two things in common: a love of flyfishing and an acquaintance through ROFF. These guys don’t know each other face-to-face, for the most part, but they are acquainted through years and years of give-and-take in a Usenet group. Imagine the group dynamics. Who can outfish whom? Who can tell the biggest lies? Who knows the perfect knot? Who has the best self-tied flies? Will they check their weapons at the door? It goes on and on. Yep, it could be a great story. If you know a good writer please clue him in. — something bogus to avoid spam)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This Clave thing presents a great opportunity for a human interest story for a FFing magazine. (snip) Yep, it could be a great story. If you know a good writer please clue him in.         more than one of those will be present as participants.  you will not be disappointed with the communiques from the front, nor with reviews filed upon a chance for retrospection. wayno —

wayno, can i be the gun checker? btw, was that you are chub that got the sam in the ass saturday? makes you feel like that monkey, donchano. i can’t even view it now, it hurts. i’m off….damn tax thing tomorrow. waldo

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This Clave thing presents a great opportunity for a human interest story for a FFing magazine. (snip) Yep, it could be a great story. If you know a good writer please clue him in.

        more than one of those will be present as participants.  you will not be disappointed with the communiques from the front, nor with reviews filed upon a chance for retrospection. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — something bogus to avoid spam)

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Mr. G. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This Clave thing presents a great opportunity for a human interest story for a FFing magazine. (snip) Yep, it could be a great story. If you know a good writer please clue him in.         more than one of those will be present as participants.  you will not be disappointed with the communiques from the front, nor with reviews filed upon a chance for retrospection. wayno — wayno, can i be the gun checker? btw, was that you are chub that got the sam in the ass saturday? makes you feel like that monkey, donchano. i can’t even view it now, it hurts. i’m off….damn tax thing tomorrow. waldo

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Fellow Fly Fishers     I am starting a web site and would like to know what information and features are imortant to you. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. Paul Koulouris Shelburne, Vermont "The true joy of pursuing trout is that they live in such beautiful places"

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This sounds like a great idea!! It would be good to know where the fishing is hot..and where it is not!! { In New Zealand that is!} Sharing what size trout everyone caught over the weekend and what fly they used!! I’m keen for this site!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fellow Fly Fishers     I am starting a web site and would like to know what information and features are imortant to you. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. Paul Koulouris Shelburne, Vermont "The true joy of pursuing trout is that they live in such beautiful places"

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I just noticed in his new book, "A Pirate Looks At Fifty," that Jimmy Buffett seems to be an avid flyfisherman. Anyone know any good stories about Jimmy and flyfishing? Is he strictly a saltwater fisherman? Or does he ever go after trout? (The mountains don’t seem to be his style!) Better yet…has anyone ever tried to go fishing with him? (We flyfishermen might be able to get a little closer to him than the ordinary Parrothead! <grin) Scott Wilkinson Quasi-Parrothead

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Jimmy Buffett used to live in Aspen and may still have a place there.  I think he moved there after his time in Key West.  He wanted to be around guys who liked girls. DP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just noticed in his new book, "A Pirate Looks At Fifty," that Jimmy Buffett seems to be an avid flyfisherman. Anyone know any good stories about Jimmy and flyfishing? Is he strictly a saltwater fisherman? Or does he ever go after trout? (The mountains don’t seem to be his style!) Better yet…has anyone ever tried to go fishing with him? (We flyfishermen might be able to get a little closer to him than the ordinary Parrothead! <grin) Scott Wilkinson Quasi-Parrothead

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: Jimmy Buffett used to live in Aspen and may still have a place there.  I : think he moved there after his time in Key West.  He wanted to be around : guys who liked girls. Thanks for keeping us posted. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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Scott, Only stories I know of Jimmy are shrimping, jubilees, mullet in Mobile bay, and drinks at Judge Roy Bean’s. -Adam

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I just noticed in his new book, "A Pirate Looks At Fifty," that Jimmy Buffett seems to be an avid flyfisherman. Anyone know any good stories about Jimmy and flyfishing? Is he strictly a saltwater fisherman? Or does he ever go after trout? (The mountains don’t seem to be his style!) Better yet…has anyone ever tried to go fishing with him? (We flyfishermen might be able to get a little closer to him than the ordinary Parrothead! <grin) Scott Wilkinson Quasi-Parrothead

Hi Scott, I was fishing in the Keys about 10 years ago fishing with a friend, Steve Chapell, who lives on Marathon Key. One evening he showed me a poor video copy of a movie that was made by a group of Key West fly fishers? He said a prince from Spain?, Guy Valdeen(sp) was partly responsible for the short film. Jimmy did the sound tack for the movie. It showed fly fishers casting to tarpon with beautiful music and then would it would switch to wild music with a party boat. The deck was covered with blood from killing fish. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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Jimmy used to hang around with Harrison, McGuane, Fonda and that bunch in the keys and in Livingston, Mt.  I’m sure he has been exposed to both fresh and saltwater flyfishing.  He also reportedly has the quail bug. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just noticed in his new book, "A Pirate Looks At Fifty," that Jimmy Buffett seems to be an avid flyfisherman. Anyone know any good stories about Jimmy and flyfishing? Is he strictly a saltwater fisherman? Or does he ever go after trout? (The mountains don’t seem to be his style!) Better yet…has anyone ever tried to go fishing with him? (We flyfishermen might be able to get a little closer to him than the ordinary Parrothead! <grin) Scott Wilkinson Quasi-Parrothead

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I just noticed in his new book, "A Pirate Looks At Fifty," that Jimmy Buffett seems to be an avid flyfisherman. Anyone know any good stories about Jimmy and flyfishing? Is he strictly a saltwater fisherman? Or does he ever go after trout? (The mountains don’t seem to be his style!) Better yet…has anyone ever tried to go fishing with him? (We flyfishermen might be able to get a little closer to him than the ordinary Parrothead! <grin)

Not sure about Jimmy Buffet and Flyfishing but I’ve also heard that Marilyn Manson is an avid angler.  Anyone know whether Marilyn is into flyfishing? Anyone care to post any amusing anecdotes concerning Marilyn and fish? Thanks.

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Never heard of Marilyn Mason – where does she live?

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Not sure about Jimmy Buffet and Flyfishing but I’ve also heard that Marilyn Manson is an avid angler.  Anyone know whether Marilyn is into flyfishing? Anyone care to post any amusing anecdotes concerning Marilyn and fish?

What, he bites the heads off the trout? -Marcus

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Never heard of Marilyn Mason – where does she live?

*HE* is a shock rocker.  Very wierd looking, angry music, etc etc.  The teenagers adore him. check out http://www.marilyn-manson.net/  for scary pictures and stuff.

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Never heard of Marilyn Mason – where does she live?

He dwells in your worst nightmares….

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My worst nightmare is about many raising fish and the wrong fly!!

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If I need to see something scary, I check out my mirror (especially in the early AM.)

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*HE* is a shock rocker.  Very wierd looking, angry music, etc etc.  The teenagers adore him. check out http://www.marilyn-manson.net/  for scary pictures and stuff.

I’ve heard this freak was a nerdy kid on some TV show that was modestly popular 6 or 7 years ago.  As for checking out a site about this geek…think I’d rather step on a nail. Patrick

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I heard that Jimmy has a place out in the hamptons in LI, NY and owns a 20′ Hewes flats boat!! He flyfishes for stripers and everything! Capt. Paul

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I’ve seen a picture of Buffett standing on a partially sunken (and rusted out ship) with what appears to be a fly rod with yellow fly line in his hand. I think this picture is on the box set…….

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In his book, "In Search of Joe Merchant" he talks about flyfishing for bonefish.  Believe that he did also inthe book "Margaritaville". Herb

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I heard that Jimmy has a place out in the hamptons in LI, NY and owns a 20′ Hewes flats boat!! He flyfishes for stripers and everything! Capt. Paul

In his book that just came out, "A Pirate Looks at Fifty", he talks about flyfishing a lot.  The guy’s a fanatic!!  He even went flyfishing in Costa Rica (for blue marlin!).

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writes: I purchased an antique bamboo fly rod recently.  It has a curve in on of the tip sections and I was wondering if anyone knows how I can straighten it without damaging the rod. Any help is greatly appreciated.

You have good advice in the previous responses, but another idea is to go out and hook a good fish and turn it so the fighting fish bends it back. A table leg  or other solid object to pull against can work too. The cheaper old rods will take a set just from playing one good fish if you don’t turn the rod around as you play it, and some can be bent back straight in the same manner. I have never tried this one but one aged geezer told me that you could straighten cane rods by hanging them from the tip eyelet for a week or so. Mark Vinsel www.vinsel.com

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Hi,  In a book about rod building and restoration I read the technique of steaming the set over the teakettle and then gently bending and holding it in the opposite direction to the curve.  I tried it, and it "sort of" works, but I still hesitate to recommend it.  It’s kind of spooky for the fear that Patrick points out of weakening the glue in the rod sections.  If you rewrap and put on new guides, maybe you can put the guides on the opposite or "outside" side of the curve and maybe time and usage–or a good fish will help straighten it out.  Good luck. Jess Thompson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Kirkfield’s book also gives a good account of how to straighten. He suggests practicing some on rods you don’t care for.

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In a book about rod building and restoration I read the technique of steaming the set over the teakettle and then gently bending and holding it in the opposite direction to the curve.  I tried it, and it "sort of" works, but I still hesitate to recommend it.

*snip* *WARNING*  Do **NOT** use steam to heat bamboo rods, particularly old bamboo rods.  Rodbuilders go to great pains to dry the cane (age it in dry conditions, heat treat it, flame it, etc.) and eliminate the moisture in the power fibers. The power fibers transport water throughout the cane while it is growing and will absorb moisture again very easily.  At best the rod may become "loggy", at worst it will seperate the old hide glues used on some of these rods. DO NOT USE STEAM!!!!!!!                                        Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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writes: I purchased an antique bamboo fly rod recently.  It has a curve in on of the tip sections and I was wondering if anyone knows how I can straighten it without damaging the rod. Any help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Steve Yoder

Hi Steve, Before trying to straighten these sets (curves) yourself, find out if the rod is collectable.  If so, have a professional do it.  Don’t try to straighten out a set on a Garrison, Gillum, Payne, Leonard, Orvis, F.E. Thomas, etc. by yourself. However, if it isn’t a real valuable rod, using an alcohol lamp like Dave suggested works.  Be sure you only burn de-natured alcohol in the lamp or it will burn too hot.  Put the cane in the top of the flame (not the bluest part) move it side to side and pull it out,  rotate it a bit and repeat.  When you get it heated to the right temperature the cane will move like clay in your fingers. If you don’t heat it enough, you will crack the fibers (you’ll hear that), if you heat it too much too quickly you will bubble the varnish and the cane will become brittle.  Go real slow and straighten the set bit by slow bit and it will work fine. A better way to straighten it would be to use a heat gun with a spreader nozzle as suggested by Wayne Catanach in his book "Handcrafting Bamboo Fly Rods". Better control over the heat and covers a larger area more quickly.   I have’nt tried that myself, but it makes sense.  Some have said you can use an electric hair dryer effectively too.                      Hope this helps,                               Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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I purchased an antique bamboo fly rod recently.  It has a curve in on of the tip sections and I was wondering if anyone knows how I can straighten it without damaging the rod. Any help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely,             Steve Yoder

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I purchased an antique bamboo fly rod recently.  It has a curve in on of the tip sections and I was wondering if anyone knows how I can straighten it without damaging the rod. Any help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely,             Steve Yoder

I’ve used an alcohol lamp to slightly heat the fibers while working the bend in my hands. This will remove most minor curves. Good luck – be careful. — Best regards, Dave Visit Dave Teffeteller’s Fly Fishing Guides Home Page http://www.olfart.com

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I purchased an antique bamboo fly rod recently.  It has a curve in on of the tip sections and I was wondering if anyone knows how I can straighten it without damaging the rod. Any help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely,             Steve Yoder

I would try to identify the rod builder.  Depending on the builder, your bamboo rod could be worth big bucks.  If that’s the case I would seek a professional’s advice.  Otherwise, a small "set" in the bamboo shouldn’t alter casting ability too much and I wouldn’t worry about it.  If the set does effect the casting, I would again seek out a reputable builder’s advice.  The problem with trying to heat it up is that you could hurt the varnish or weaken the glue that holds the individual cane strips in place.  Good luck. Patrick

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Fletch writes:

I’ve got an opportunity to plan a FF trip to Alaska in the fall of = 1997. Any suggestions for place, equipment, flies, guide or not, etc… Fletch.. My advice to others who ask, knowing I have made several of these trips is: Pick *one* species of fish you most want to catch and then time your arrival on a river known to hold these fish in the middle of its run.   ( I have seen people spend a week on the wrong river at the wrong time and come up emptY) Alternate is to not care what species of fish and pick a time and a reliable guide and hve the guide able to fly you to a river known to have fish in it at that time.   If you plan to camp along the river and have never done this, then who ever takes you is the person you are trusting your life with…. Back country Alaska is sincere country and unforgiving of some errors..  There is fishing without going into the deep wilderness that can be better than your wildest dreams…. but you gotta be on the right rivers at the right times for the run to be there.   When I have gone the last ten years, I have been self guiding as the friends I go with, as well as myself, have made about a dozen of these trips…..  I would never recommend anyone do this for themselves on their first trip….too much can go wrong.  So, I do not have a guide list for you… I knew the dates and fish you are most interested in, I may be able to help… Also the Game and Inland fish people there will send you a big big booklet with all kinds of dates of runs in different rivers in it.   Likely any Alaskan tourist agent can help. For near my trips without a big crowd but needing a boat.. are a day’s float down the Kenai from the lake to Jim’s landing… A 13 mile trip and good for large rainbows much of the season and is full of Red Salmon and some King Salmon at the right weeks…   Near Willow, there are several walkin from the road rivers full of salmon at the right dates…  Near the airport are accessible rivers but crowded ….  Willow is far enough out of Anchorage that the crowds are not so great.  There are 18 lodges which get $4000/week and I would not hesitate to recommend Bud Hobson’s lodge or Bristol Bay Lodge if you want to go that route.  If you fly in, leave an itinerary with someone who truly loves you and will cause you to be found if overdue.  If you fly with a reputable service ( there are plenty of good ones) they are bound by law to come to get you and report you absence to Fairbanks if over 24 hours late….Carry a flare gun and then every plane in the air is a potential help….  I have a lllooooonnnnnngggg packing list if you want to Email me for it…  but again, don’t go in the bush without a competent guide… Just don’t… Alaska has tons and tons of fish because the manage the habit and the spawning run on each river individually and have the capability and will to change the C&K numbers on a days notice on any river needing it…. Other states in our north west have too many competing interests and this is not done… and so they have few fish….   Well hope some of this helps. Alan E. Hoover Anglers’ Rest Powhatan, Va        *the trout teach many, lessons*

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Thanks for reading…. I’ve got an opportunity to plan a FF trip to Alaska in the fall of 1997. Any suggestions for place, equipment, flies, guide or not, etc… I would like to mix this trip between fishing and site-seeing and have about 5 days to do it. Thanks for any help or advice you can give. Russ

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I would like to know if anyone out there has a good recipie for Bass leaders (as well as other leaders)  I have tied my own for a long time but never really put much thought into it.  I would appreciate any advice. Thanks ahead for the info. Eddie

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Dear Ed: We would need to know a few more things.  What size flies or poppers are you talking about such as hook size?  Are talking about fly fishing for bass?  What weight fly line are you using? Mr. Gink – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to know if anyone out there has a good recipie for Bass leaders (as well as other leaders)  I have tied my own for a long time but never really put much thought into it.  I would appreciate any advice. Thanks ahead for the info. Eddie

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Hi I’m sure you will get good answers from this group but I notice you are on AOL. Check the fishing reports at keyword FBN. That may help as well. Happy Holidays. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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The two bodies of water that I usually fish are the Rose River off of Skyline Drive and Mossy Creek in the Shenandoah Valley.  I’ve only fished dry flies and haven’t got the slightest idea on how to approach nymph fishing, for that matter what nymphs to fish.  I would venture to say that I’ve caught the bug and won’t let a little inclimate weather frighten me off.  Is this the right approach, or should I hang it up until the Spring?

No way, dude. When I lived in MD, I fished Big Hunting Creek in Thurmont 12 mos/yr. In fact, the bigest browns I caught in that great stream were both in Januarys.  Fished the typical nymphs: Hare’s Ear in brown and olive, Pheasant Tails, etc. Nothin fancy. Just fish ‘em deep with a sloooooow retrieve. I laid it right at the mouths of these fish and they couldn’t resist. Of course, when the water’s that cold, the fish aren’t very active, that is until they realize they have a hook in their kype. Another bennie: since you are a beginner (tho, who isn’t?), winter fishing gives you time to work on technique and most importantly, patience. Plus, there are fewer folks around to feel intimidated by. So stick with it. -cst

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Ditto CST–I’ll be on Big Hunting Creek tomorrow.  Nymphs are fine and streamers are also fine.  Nymph one way, then streamer yourself home.  I like a shockingly large brown or tan or olive and black bullet-head woolly bugger.  Big rainbows will eat those too;  and Mossy’s got some humongous brownies that love meat. Dave

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I’m somewhat of a novice at fly fishing, but I wanted to get some input from the more experienced fly fishermen concerning winter fishing.  I’ve done some reading on fishing in the winter, but wanted to be armed with a little more info before I head out to freeze. The two bodies of water that I usually fish are the Rose River off of Skyline Drive and Mossy Creek in the Shenandoah Valley.  I’ve only fished dry flies and haven’t got the slightest idea on how to approach nymph fishing, for that matter what nymphs to fish.  I would venture to say that I’ve caught the bug and won’t let a little inclimate weather frighten me off.  Is this the right approach, or should I hang it up until the Spring?

Dave, There’s also a free magazine which is available at most of the VA fly shops which will lead you to the right patterns year round, and offers tips on winter fishing techniques in our state. Look for it at Orvis shops, Harry Murray’s place and others. Keith in Waterford, VA

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Hey Dave,        I went on Christmas day to a small brook trout stream on Catoctin Mt. and used a size 16 unweighted hares ear, a small split shot and a piece of orvis clay strike indicator and caught brookies on the edge of flowing water. I was fighting to keep the guides clear of ice and there wasn’t any casting room but it was a lot of fun.(very light tackle).I used a dead drift in combination with a line hand gather retrieve. They seemed to be more ready to take on the retrieve than the drift. Just fish near flowing water not really in it. Good luck, John

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I’m somewhat of a novice at fly fishing, but I wanted to get some input from the more experienced fly fishermen concerning winter fishing.  I’ve done some reading on fishing in the winter, but wanted to be armed with a little more info before I head out to freeze.   The two bodies of water that I usually fish are the Rose River off of Skyline Drive and Mossy Creek in the Shenandoah Valley.  I’ve only fished dry flies and haven’t got the slightest idea on how to approach nymph fishing, for that matter what nymphs to fish.  I would venture to say that I’ve caught the bug and won’t let a little inclimate weather frighten me off.  Is this the right approach, or should I hang it up until the Spring?

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I fail to see how you can consider his god politically correct. The homophobia in the writing comes across loud and clear.

G’day Yerself Quentin I’m not so sure he is a he but *his* god, if indeed he is a he, is definitely he/she for it is written ..by he/she, and that makes it true doesn’t it?  Reinventing the deity to fit the superstition is standard stuff of course and can’t be expected to meet with your approval or mine. Whoever wrote the thing is by definition homophobic and speaking from the other camp, no, no, no pun intended, oh, all right I’ve been working it in all along, I have to wonder about his/her friends, and how he/ she goes about categorically sorting them, I mean to say, would it be all right to be just a little bit gay?  Sheila’s had her hair cut short better keep an eye on her, that voice, and Troy, well would you just look at her, ..sorry, carried away, it’s all these gay pals of mine cluttering up the prose synapses, and what about Mervyn the Moustache OK bad example but you know what I mean.  The homophobia you have to live with my friend, its the homo sapiens phobia worries the shit out of me. See you in the war zone. — Robert

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I am the Voice of the Lord of the Cats i am the voice of the  Dogs and the Rats And the Word of God you have now heard…..

You are the voice of a pig-ignorant wanker it seems to me but your pc god is a bit of a bastard so I better not say too much.  You don’t fly-fish by any chance?  No, no, of course you don’t, silly of me.  Well, here’s to pain sunbeam, and keep taking the tablets. — Robert Maughan

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I am the Voice of the Lord of the Cats i am the voice of the  Dogs and the Rats And the Word of God you have now heard….. You are the voice of a pig-ignorant wanker it seems to me but your pc god is a bit of a bastard so I better not say too much.  You don’t fly-fish by any chance?  No, no, of course you don’t, silly of me.  Well, here’s to pain sunbeam, and keep taking the tablets. — Robert Maughan

G’day G’day Robert, I fail to see how you can consider his god politically correct. The homophobia in the writing comes across loud and clear. Life on Earth has evolved in such wondrous ways preceding by millions of years many of the tenants of nlp,  such as "When something doesn’t work, do something else."  "The element with the most flexibility ….etc  "       Consider this. Some species of mushrooms have thousands of sexes. This makes it easier for the wind bourn spores to find and engage another individual in sexual reproduction.  For those who follow the path that creation by design implies a designer, denial of this sexual diversity is blasphemy.   Denying the creation, denies the creator created.   Tut tut. Quentin Grady       ^  ^  / New Zealand,       #,#< [                     / /     "… and the blind dog was leading."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I fail to see how you can consider his god politically correct. The homophobia in the writing comes across loud and clear. G’day Yerself Quentin I’m not so sure he is a he but *his* god, if indeed he is a he, is definitely he/she for it is written ..by he/she, and that makes it true doesn’t it?  Reinventing the deity to fit the superstition is standard stuff of course and can’t be expected to meet with your approval or mine. Whoever wrote the thing is by definition homophobic and speaking from the other camp, no, no, no pun intended, oh, all right I’ve been working it in all along, I have to wonder about his/her friends, and how he/ she goes about categorically sorting them, I mean to say, would it be all right to be just a little bit gay?  Sheila’s had her hair cut short better keep an eye on her, that voice, and Troy, well would you just look at her, ..sorry, carried away, it’s all these gay pals of mine cluttering up the prose synapses, and what about Mervyn the Moustache OK bad example but you know what I mean.  The homophobia you have to live with my friend, its the homo sapiens phobia worries the shit out of me. See you in the war zone. — Robert

Gosh, you ARE homophobianly gay!  Worries you?  Who thinks they have anything worth bringing to your attention to ‘worry you?"  You flatter yourself darling. Mr. G./the Critic.

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Hate could not win, but fought at length,                       page 7 till near to death in Soul-reserves of strength (which "death" is far worse in Significance, than the relatively pleasant Transition from earth to here), the devils finally  Submitted to our way, and Set himself even tries to help today. So be Inspired, and never get tired and work  towards that final State which god for all has kept in wait : Eternal life beyond Orion’s star is not a dream, nor even so far; Tis the lotus of your heart which at This instant grows and is the only thing you`ll take, when you pass So make sure its facets are bright and clean, and the Flower within is fit to be seen. These features are, in you controlled by Moral decisions with such powers as you hold; your Mind in fact, is a shimmering light entrapped within the Physical plight you call a body and bury – rather than burn. Tis a bit strange, it sometimes seems to us that your self-Respect so dulled  in sight oft thinks that "you" could be eaten by worm. Raise up your confidence !  improve your Goals  ! "death" is but a lengthened sleep; In minor form you die each night so why think of it with so much fright ? From dust  to dust, your  body by Knum is raised then thrown but "you" go on from life to Life, until you`ve grown in Status enough to remember  All just  Who you were and why did you Fall, But  great  shocks are in store for the murderous heart who thinks that the Animals dont have a part. for most of the  humans now  alive if tracked back far enough  thru the Hive, were once in Four-legged forms on earth and struggled like them to assert your worth. So watch your step with each love you abuse, the Quadrupeds are younger you’s. They have their rights, and Will be paid for all the misery that you’ve laid on their  Route, no fault their own as trying to be like people, they’ve grown. Disgusting Race – its time you evolved                          page 8 The eating of animals, and sexual Mal-acts blood-lust and enslavement, were the primary facts put to the Gods  by satan’s  rage, and now its taking us  many an Age to clean up the mess and  restore  THE PLAN; Anyway, – play your part and help us if you can. But if good advice you cannot see in what i  say, youd better to throw your computers away your ’science’  books are naught but Mire, to minds that that refuse to see the higher purpose of their  place in life. Enough for  now, Return to Silence. meditate ….. I am the Voice of the Lord of the Cats i am the voice of the  Dogs and the Rats And the Word of God you have now heard….. Think on this as you go to bed, and in the morning prepare to Reform or resign; change your job and Seek  love’s  Peace. Altho *some* experimentation can have proper purpose of course, the wholesale Butchery of this narration is beyond  the Pale of  moral toleration. More honour would be thine to sweep the streets, than to draw your salary from such Hideous behaviours as we have seen, but the prime Responsibility is with your Governments, so let them  know – if your support is ours…..                               Aten Kaman,       internet    October 96                               extract from the  Book of  Kamanism 1982 ALT.PAGAN,   alt.religion.wicca, sci.philosophy.meta, alt.psychology.nlp, soc.religion.bahai, talk.origins, talk.philosophy.humanism, christnet.poetry,

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I’d like to fly fish for northern pike in northwest Ontario in early to mid July.  While I have fished northern and walleye for years in this area, I am new to fly fishing.  Any ‘tricks of the trade’ would be appreciated.  I am set up with a sinking line and a popper plus a couple good size (long tail) flys.  Am I on the right track?

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I’d like to fly fish for northern pike in northwest Ontario in early to mid July.  While I have fished northern and walleye for years in this area, I am new to fly fishing.  Any ‘tricks of the trade’ would be appreciated.  I am set up with a sinking line and a popper plus a couple good size (long tail) flys.  Am I on the right track?

Sounds good so far, but you should pay some attention to your leader.  A standard tippet isn’t real effective when dealing with pike teeth. You should pick up some 30 lb. test steel line and cut off a piece about 1 ft. in length.  For a sinking leader, use 30 lb. test lead core line about 10" long (do not use much more!) remove about 2" of the core from each end.  Tie a uni-knot, same as attaching your tippet to regular fly line with the outer shell of the lead core line around the steel line, and then, tie a second uni-knot with the steel line around the lead core.  Pull the two knots together and you have your leader.  Tie the other end of the lead core line shell to the fly line with another uni-knot and tie the fly to the other end of the steel line. By the way, if you use a long piece of lead core line and manage to back-cast the line into your head (who hasn’t done this with a regular monofilament tippet), you will see Elvis or other such sites long after you come to. Good luck…fly fishing pike is really fun. — Yukon College, Academic Studies/Professional Studies Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada   Telephone (403) 668-8809

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