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You’re right - I gave the thing a smack and it’s only -32 C! I’m strippin’ down! I’m in the ‘Peg – Ottawa is tropical in comparison Before you buy.
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Still, -32 C is 32 degrees _below_ the freezing point of water. The only thing hatching at temperatures like that are icecubes? Herman, wondering if America is really _that_ different from Europe You’re right - I gave the thing a smack and it’s only -32 C! I’m strippin’ down! I’m in the ‘Peg – Ottawa is tropical in comparison Before you buy.
– Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher
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Yes, Herman! Things are that different here in America. We had a lovely *icecube* hatch last year on Upper Creek. While the damn things are somewhat difficult to tie on a hook. The trout just love the different flavors, when you mix in a little KOOL-AID. — Opie **Panhandling for a better tomorrow!**
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Still, -32 C is 32 degrees _below_ the freezing point of water. The only thing hatching at temperatures like that are icecubes? Herman, wondering if America is really _that_ different from Europe You’re right - I gave the thing a smack and it’s only -32 C! I’m strippin’ down! I’m in the ‘Peg – Ottawa is tropical in comparison Before you buy. — Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher
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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly?
Jeez, your supposed to be an engineer or computer geek or something – -40C is about -40F, it’s the point where the two systems meet. Having been in Winterpeg in the middle of January more than once and having lived in Ottawa, I’ll take the ‘Peg. Peter
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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now.
-41 C?? Well in Fahrenheit that must be nearly… Lesse F = 9/5C + 32… That means -41C is minus fort–no wait, that can’t be right!! <g –Steve (pardon the math joke)
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Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly?
*Something’s* not working correctly, that’s for sure. HINT: Did you use a UNIX-based calculator to come up with that answer, Dave? 
–Steve
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Jeez, your supposed to be an engineer or computer geek or something – -40C is about -40F, it’s the point where the two systems meet.
There are other aspects to 2nd childhoods than fast cars… <g — Charlie…
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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly? Jeez, your supposed to be an engineer or computer geek or something –
A DEMOCRATIC engineer or computer geek or something – I’ll bet he stuffs his turkey through the neck (do with that what you will) <G. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –40C is about -40F, it’s the point where the two systems meet.
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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Sigh
Excuse my ignorance: what’s the Tricos? Chris Always willing to learn.
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Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly? *Something’s* not working correctly, that’s for sure. HINT: Did you use a UNIX-based calculator to come up with that answer, Dave? –Steve
Yikes – did I post that? To the Windows Calculator with 9/5C+32 and – ooops – there’s where I lost it, I never added the 32…Oh well… Goes to show that posting after drinking your way through "The Big Book Of Wine At That Really Expensive Restaurant" could be hazardous to your dignity. /daytripper (recovering slowly…)
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Does it matter at that point?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly?
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Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Sigh Excuse my ignorance: what’s the Tricos? Chris Always willing to learn.
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Dignity?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly? *Something’s* not working correctly, that’s for sure. HINT: Did you use a UNIX-based calculator to come up with that answer, Dave? –Steve Yikes – did I post that? To the Windows Calculator with 9/5C+32 and – ooops – there’s where I lost it, I never added the 32…Oh well… Goes to show that posting after drinking your way through "The Big Book Of Wine At That Really Expensive Restaurant" could be hazardous to your dignity. /daytripper (recovering slowly…)
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Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul
i thought they were a type of diptera. or is that "diphteria"? wayno, a little weak on the entomology.
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Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul i thought they were a type of diptera. or is that "diphteria"? wayno, a little weak on the entomology.
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I thought diphtheria is a disease. Diptera is the true fly family of which midges are a member. Tricorythodes is a genus of mayfly (Ephemeroptera).
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul i thought they were a type of diptera. or is that "diphteria"? wayno, a little weak on the entomology. wait, no; i meant "diptheria". wayno, just plain weak
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"Brian D. Nelson" wrote I thought diphtheria is a disease. Diptera is the true fly family of which midges are a member. Tricorythodes is a genus of mayfly (Ephemeroptera).
Diphtheria is a disease, just like flyfishing. Ernie
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Diphtheria is a disease, just like flyfishing. Ernie
Then I hope I don’t catch it (the diphtheria, that is) because, like flyfishing, there is no cure (except to go fishing, of course!). — Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022
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Diptera = two wings. Usually the critters that bite, or if not look too much like those not to swat them. Grammatical codswallop, but I guess you get the point. Herman Shit, I think I inhaled.. Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul i thought they were a type of diptera. or is that "diphteria"? wayno, a little weak on the entomology.
– Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher
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Herman, The trico is closely related to a British insect called the Treacle (look up the taxonomy, but as you can tell by the name, they are closely related). Though both are often mentioned in Winter settings, but at -40 Centigrade or Fahrenheit, they bear a striking similarity, i.e. they don’t move a whole bunch. Frank – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, Herman! Things are that different here in America. We had a lovely *icecube* hatch last year on Upper Creek. While the damn things are somewhat difficult to tie on a hook. The trout just love the different flavors, when you mix in a little KOOL-AID. — Opie **Panhandling for a better tomorrow!** Still, -32 C is 32 degrees _below_ the freezing point of water. The only thing hatching at temperatures like that are icecubes? Herman, wondering if America is really _that_ different from Europe You’re right - I gave the thing a smack and it’s only -32 C! I’m strippin’ down! I’m in the ‘Peg – Ottawa is tropical in comparison Before you buy. — Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher
Before you buy.
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That’s my kind of insect.. I don’t move much at -40 C either. Herman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Herman, The trico is closely related to a British insect called the Treacle (look up the taxonomy, but as you can tell by the name, they are closely related). Though both are often mentioned in Winter settings, but at -40 Centigrade or Fahrenheit, they bear a striking similarity, i.e. they don’t move a whole bunch. Frank
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but here in Montana, Tricos hatch in August, not wintertime. Fill me in on the Treacle. I’ve never heard of it and cannot tell by the name that they are closely related (other than the "Tr"). 
Herman, The trico is closely related to a British insect called the Treacle (look up the taxonomy, but as you can tell by the name, they are closely related). Though both are often mentioned in Winter settings, but at -40 Centigrade or Fahrenheit, they bear a striking similarity, i.e. they don’t move a whole bunch. Frank
– Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022
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That’s my kind of insect.. I don’t move much at -40 C either.
I experienced -40 one time…actually it was -44 F. At that temperature you had BETTER keep moving! Trust me on this one. Wolfgang digging out from under 13" of new snow this morning
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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Sigh Before you buy.
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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now.
Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly?
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One of the best ways to share the world with a child, is through books. Read about it, then go do it. Your child will do the same with his children.
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My son and I just got finished reading "Blackberries in the Dark" by Mavis Jukes. It’s about a young boys first experience fly fishing. I’ll skip the reviews. However, my eight year old loved it and wants to me to read it to him again tomorrow night. It’s 60 pages and was under $4.00. Paul
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Paul I don’t ever consider introducing a young one to fly fishing, even if only in a book, as off topic. How many of us grew up reading adventures into space with Heinlein or the like. We grew up looking to the astronauts as heros. Perhaps if some of those adventures had involved fly fishermen, I would have looked on my father as the true hero that he was just that little bit earlier. Thank you for helping us find some thing that we can start that sharing process with our young ones. Frank Reid
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My son and I just got finished reading "Blackberries in the Dark" by Mavis Jukes. It’s about a young boys first experience fly fishing. I’ll skip the reviews. However, my eight year old loved it and wants to me to read it to him again tomorrow night. It’s 60 pages and was under $4.00.
Thanks. I’ll check it out. Joe F.
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Paul I don’t ever consider introducing a young one to fly fishing, even if only in a book, as off topic. How many of us grew up reading adventures into space with Heinlein or the like. We grew up looking to the astronauts as heros. Frank Reid
Heinlein, Asimov, and others! "Oh Those Golden Ships"! So many dreams, all of great value even if unrealized. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.
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Folks, can anyone confirm or disconfirm that dolly varden are available inthe bob marshall? have heard theymight be found in flathead basin area? any truth to this rumor? edwin
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Folks, can anyone confirm or disconfirm that dolly varden are available inthe bob marshall? have heard theymight be found in flathead basin area? any truth to this rumor? edwin
Dolly Varden are not available in the Bob. Dollies are costal fish. Bull trout, on the other hand, do inhabit the Flathead area. Don’t get caught fishing for them intentionally. They were recently listed under the ESA. In this years Montana fishing regs you were permitted to fish for bull trout in Swan Lake with a daily and possession limit of one fish. I don’t know how the listing has affected this regulation. Regards, Don Kelly Butte, MT
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No dolly varden….but there are some bull trout….soon to be on the endangered list. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Folks, can anyone confirm or disconfirm that dolly varden are available inthe bob marshall? have heard theymight be found in flathead basin area? any truth to this rumor? edwin
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Folks, I guess what I meant by dolly varden is bull trout.. and I am sad to hear that they are headed for the endangered spcies list… I’ll hope not to hook any! cheers, edwin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No dolly varden….but there are some bull trout….soon to be on the endangered list. Folks, can anyone confirm or disconfirm that dolly varden are available inthe bob marshall? have heard theymight be found in flathead basin area? any truth to this rumor? edwin
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: Folks, : can anyone confirm or disconfirm that dolly varden are available inthe : bob marshall? have heard theymight be found in flathead basin area? : any truth to this rumor? : Dolly Varden are not available in the Bob. Dollies are costal fish. : Bull trout, on the other hand, do inhabit the Flathead area. Don’t get : caught fishing for them intentionally. They were recently listed under : the ESA. In this years Montana fishing regs you were permitted to fish : for bull trout in Swan Lake with a daily and possession limit of one : fish. I don’t know how the listing has affected this regulation. What is the difference between a Dolly Varden and a bull trout? I though that the same species had both names. Once, when fishing in Pacific Creek in the Tetons, I saw another angler catch a fish he called a Dolly Varden. Was he correct? It looked like a char, sort of like a brookie or a laker, but different. By the way, who was Dolly Varden?
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Joe, The story is a lady was visiting the town of McCloud in California and she saw a char taken from the McCloud river. She said it looks just like Dolly Varden’s gingham dress. Dolly Varden was an entertainer and the name stuck. — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-Mail Selling my Fly Fishing Books Go to: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – By the way, who was Dolly Varden?
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No dolly varden….but there are some bull trout….soon to be on the endangered list.
Sorry to bear the bad news, but I believe that recent attempts to find bull trout in the McCloud failed. It is yet another extinct race of trout. -John — My Wife, Yes… My Dog, Maby, My Gun, Never!
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Sorry to bear the bad news, but I believe that recent attempts to find bull trout in the McCloud failed. It is yet another extinct race of trout. -John
John, The Bull trout are alive and well in the Swan. This is one of the few lakes that you can actually fish for "da Bulls". (C&R) Have fun! -Bob
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Three years ago I caught & released a bully of 19 inches in the headwaters of the Bitterroot, above the lake.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No dolly varden….but there are some bull trout….soon to be on the endangered list. Sorry to bear the bad news, but I believe that recent attempts to find bull trout in the McCloud failed. It is yet another extinct race of trout. -John — My Wife, Yes… My Dog, Maby, My Gun, Never!
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Dolly Varden, a "fancy lady" Schuhfly
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There was a post a week or so back discussing using Albolene as a dry fly floatant, but some question as to what Albolene actually is and where to find it. After searching a number of drugstores I finally found a jar of it in an independent drugstore (one of the Mutual drugs). It cost me about $8.50 for a 12 oz jar/can of unscented Albolene. I found it in the makeup section and it’s actually a skin cleaner for removing makeup, etc. The ingredient list shows: mineral oil, petrolatum (the same stuff that’s in Petrolium Jelly or Vaseline), paraffin, ceresin (?), and carotene. It really is pretty scentless and about the consistency of Vaseline. The label says it liquefies on contact with your skin. I plan on carrying small amounts in the used plastic film canisters that Kodak 35mm film comes in. At that rate 12 oz. looks like a lifetime supply of Albolene! Haven’t tried the stuff out on a fly yet, but will follow up later after trying it. If it works as well as previous posts indicate it’s pretty economical compared to commercial fly floatants. Tight lines.
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There was a post a week or so back discussing using Albolene as a dry fly floatant, but some question as to what Albolene actually is and where to find it.
I’m not sure what its original intentions were but my mom used to put Albolene on my burns. Kind of an old fashioned aloe vera is my best guess. Let us know how it works as a floatant. Tom
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Hi Jim I used Abolene for years as a dry fly floatant. I can’t tell the difference between it and Gink. The only problem (and the reason I started making my own) is that it turns to liquid (like Gink does) on a hot day. It still float a fly well but you can sure make a mess on you vest or shirt if you happen to spill it. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)
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Does anyone on this newsgroup have current information on saltwater flyfishing at Christmas (Kiribati) Island? In 1979 I spent some time on the island doing anthropological research and found the bonefishing fantastic. They were interested at that time in promoting the sportfishing, especially the saltwater flyfishing from the reef. There have been a couple of articles on the sportfishing in the mid ’80s but I haven’t seen anything recently. — Los Angeles Maritime Museum NETCOM, the West Coast’s Leading Internet Service Provider. (408) 554-8649
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I have been twice in 1988 and dec. 1994. It is the best bone fishing i have found for numbers of fish. I was there in Sept. of 88 and Dec. of 94. Largest of the two trips was 30 inches. Most weigh about 2-3 pounds. Good food and native guides are fine. I would suggest u hire an extra guide for yourself or for you and a friend if anyone goes with you. A young guide, NAREAU is the best I have used. MOANNA the most famous is now into the bottle pretty heavy and on our last trip he was quite undependable. If you need any other suggestions let me know. I would only book through FRONTIERS in Medford, Penna. good luck. Jack.
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Does anyone on this newsgroup have current information on saltwater flyfishing at Christmas (Kiribati) Island? In 1979 I spent some time on the island doing anthropological research and found the bonefishing fantastic. They were interested at that time in promoting the sportfishing, especially the saltwater flyfishing from the reef. There have been a couple of articles on the sportfishing in the mid ’80s but I haven’t seen anything recently. —
Los Angeles Maritime Museum NETCOM, the West Coast’s Leading Internet Service Provider. (408)
554-8649 Regarding bone fishing on Christmas Island: my husband and several of the other members of the Santa Cruz Fly Fishermen fished there last January. They booked their trip through a group called Fishabout, located in Los Gatos. They have a P.O. Box: 1679, Los Gatos, CA 95031. Contact either Howard McKinney or Kay Mitsyoshi, at 1-800-409-2000. The group flew to Honolulu, then transferred to Air Nahru to Kiribati. Their accomodations were in a small hotel, and their guides took them by boat out to the flats, where they fished, accompanied by the guide. Everyone reported fine fishing and were satisfied with the package, so Kiribati is having some success promoting their bonefishing. Yours, Pat Steele
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Give any of the destination fly shops a call. Christmas Island is a very popular bone destination these days. I would reccomend The Fly Shop in Redding, CA. Ask for Mike, the owner… Good Luck, Mad Dog
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Kaufmann’s Streamborn has a lot of good information and experience with Christmas Island. They have a great color catalog that you can full color photos of lots of travel destinations including Christmas Island. They’ve got a new web page at http://www.teleport.com/~kman You can also call them at 800/442-4359, and ask for Jerry. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Does anyone on this newsgroup have current information on saltwater flyfishing at Christmas (Kiribati) Island? In 1979 I spent some time on the island doing anthropological research and found the bonefishing fantastic. They were interested at that time in promoting the sportfishing, especially the saltwater flyfishing from the reef. There have been a couple of articles on the sportfishing in the mid ’80s but I haven’t seen anything recently. — Los Angeles Maritime Museum NETCOM, the West Coast’s Leading Internet Service Provider. (408) 554-8649
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