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Monday we finally got enough of a break in the wind to allow us to get way out in the sound.  Found some pretty white sand shorelines and poled along them.  Lo and behold there were nice sized schools of redfish cruising along in 8 inches of crystal clear water with a light colored bottom.  Perfect.  We threw tan/white clousers and merkins at them (size 2).  Caught them up to 26 inches.  Each strike a picture perfect sight fishing shot.  Just like bonefishing in the Bahamas.  Here are links to a couple pictures: http://www.mindspring.com/~taftsville/redwade.jpg http://www.mindspring.com/~taftsville/redwade2.jpg

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gordon – the area looks familiar <g… i was doing the same thing in the pamlico over on the swan quarter/englehard side on sunday…except i was using a light spinning rod. at this very moment i’m cooking a 23 incher i brought home – yum.  lost several bigguns, and caught 5 smaller ones.  puppy drum are becoming one of my favorite fish! fun to catch…delicious to eat. have you tried a crab pattern for them yet? jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Monday we finally got enough of a break in the wind to allow us to get way out in the sound.  Found some pretty white sand shorelines and poled along them.  Lo and behold there were nice sized schools of redfish cruising along in 8 inches of crystal clear water with a light colored bottom.  Perfect.  We threw tan/white clousers and merkins at them (size 2).  Caught them up to 26 inches.  Each strike a picture perfect sight fishing shot.  Just like bonefishing in the Bahamas.  Here are links to a couple pictures: http://www.mindspring.com/~taftsville/redwade.jpg http://www.mindspring.com/~taftsville/redwade2.jpg

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We’re thinking of a trip in the next 2 or 3 weeks.  Much going on down there?  We would like to fish the Sound for whatever is hitting a fly. — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Monday we finally got enough of a break in the wind to allow us to get way out in the sound.  Found some pretty white sand shorelines and poled along them.  Lo and behold there were nice sized schools of redfish cruising along in 8 inches of crystal clear water with a light colored bottom.  Perfect.  We threw tan/white clousers and merkins at them (size 2).  Caught them up to 26 inches.  Each strike a picture perfect sight fishing shot.  Just like bonefishing in the Bahamas.  Here are links to a couple pictures: http://www.mindspring.com/~taftsville/redwade.jpg http://www.mindspring.com/~taftsville/redwade2.jpg

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Yo, Any ROFFers headed to the International Sportsmen’s Expo in Pomona at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds next week? peace, Mu

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Would love to Mu, was born there but gonna have to settle for the Maryland Fly Fishing Show. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any ROFFers headed to the International Sportsmen’s Expo in Pomona at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds next week? peace, Mu

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Thanks for the tip! If you had my "host" you would understand why. When I tried the link in my signature it worked and BTW: the site has nothing to do with flyfishing (unless you like fishing for dogs, but how does one manage to tie a bone-streamer or something like that) — Hans van der Stroom http://home.wanadoo.nl/stroomh ICQ 20196762 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For what it’s worth my favourite fly for Perch: Hook: TMC 5263 – #’s 8-10 or any other long-shanked hook Tail: bunch of black marabou or Polar Fox body (I prefer this) Body (rear half): flat silvertinsel with fluo red Lazer Wrap over Body (front half): black dubbing with large black hackle wound through Welcome back.  Your personal website seems to be non-functional at the moment. Mu

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Thanks for the tip! If you had my "host" you would understand why.

I do understand – wanadoo seems to spend most of its  money on advertising  Though that might be understandable.  AOL spent the first ten years of its existence as a junk mail company. Mu

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Is this a similar concept to some "superiors" considering themselves "Fly-Dressers" while other less mortals are only "flytiers"? Clark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <SNIP but not bait fishing. As it happens, I also invariably fish for them with flies, only very occasionally with bait nowadays, and sometimes using other methods. However, it is better to know as much as possible about one

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Care to share your hobbies?

Large format B&W photography 4-Season camping Fly fishing Hunting Trapping Botony Geology Thomas Vodacek Stagnant Brewery Brewing Since 1982

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Care to share your hobbies? Large format B&W photography 4-Season camping Fly fishing Hunting Trapping Botony Geology Thomas Vodacek Stagnant Brewery Brewing Since 1982 Street Rodding and motorcycle riding.

collecting trains and cooking. Brewing since1995

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Care to share your hobbies?

Brewing’s about it anymore, and I don’t get as much time to do that as I’d like. I used to love photography, especially sports photography.  I used to go to hockey games alot and take pictures of the players.  I live in Philadelphia.  I have an autographed 8 x 10 that I took of Flyers goalie Pelle Lindbergh that may actually be the very last autograph he ever signed before he died.  I wish I could prove it.  I caught him outside the stadium right after the last game he played, which was against Washington.  He signed the picture, then I watched him get in his car, and I heard the next morning he was dead.   I also have lots of old hockey, baseball, and football cards. Aside from beer, I also make some wine, but mostly just from kits. I like to cook, and make bread.  Actually made bread before I made beer.  Would like to try making cheese at some point.  It all seems to go toghether.  I always wanted to learn to make desserts, like cakes and stuff. Bill

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collecting trains and cooking. Brewing since1995

Just *do* you cook a train? :0) I’m hoping to swing by Valley Park, MO on this summer’s vacation to see the "Whittle Shortline" folks and their wooden trains. My son’s not old enough for highly scaled N gauge yet.

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Computers & networking Photography Competitive pistol and rifle shooting Reloading for pistol and rifle Cooking Read a lot Racquetball Billiards/Pool Politics Kingfisher NRA-ILA, GOA, JPFO, SAF, CCRKBA, COA, LSAS, LEAA.  Money is a weapon. When guns are outlawed, politicians will still have armed bodyguards. It’s not who votes that counts; it’s who counts the votes.

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Let’s see now….. 1. Home brewing……Oooorah! 2. RC model building (and flying). 3. Keeping planted aquariums. 4. Gardening. 5. Woodworking….or as SWMBO calls it….screwing around in the garage. Dan

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Pinball machines Radio Controlled aircraft Robotics Hunting Fishing Camping while hunting/fishing Restoring a 1968 VW God, I need to trim my hobbies down a bit! Darren Brewing since 1995

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Swimming Reading Writing Photography Driving my Miata Cooking Gardening Cat — The Cat House http://www.feline.org Phone+Fax: 877.278.8075

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Computers Brewing Biology & Genetics in general Physics Science Fiction & Fantasy Classical Music Photography — Fred Stone

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Child care and graduate school. Phil

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Tinkering with computers, and collecting obscure (mostly jazz/rock) CDs.  And I will be adding meadmaking to the list any day now! —

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Collecting Military Vehicles (M35A2 Deuce-and-a-half, and a Hummer) Ham Radio Cooking — Rich Weinkauf, N8QLT Cruise Missile Coordinates: 42d 28.05′N 083d 22.87′W HummerID 97.5 Fly Yellow Wagon 1971 Kaiser M35A2  **  MVPA #20486 Load Warrior Website http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/Terminus/loadwarrior/ M35 Cool Stuff Site     http://www.highprofilevehicles.com

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Member of the SCA (renaissance re-enactment) Leatherwork Digital photography candle/perfume/balm making (I seriously dislike the aromatherapy tag) Winemaking

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Hi all, I will be in Lake Placid next week, anyone know the conditions/hatches on the west branch? Thanks! Bob

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A few of us fished it last weekend. The river was fishing rather well. In the evening there were tricos, LARGE stoneflies and small yellow stones with a few caddis. Stop into Fran Betters shop and ask what the river is doing. He is usually tying up flies to match the hatch. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I will be in Lake Placid next week, anyone know the conditions/hatches on the west branch? Thanks! Bob

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Paul Goodwin writes: A few of us fished it last weekend. The river was fishing rather well. In the evening there were tricos, LARGE stoneflies and small yellow stones with a few caddis. Stop into Fran Betters shop and ask what the river is doing. He is usually tying up flies to match the hatch. Paul Hi all, I will be in Lake Placid next week, anyone know the conditions/hatches on the west branch? Thanks! Bob

Yes, the river was fishing quite well.  Took some nice browns on cream colored nymps fished deep and slow.  Some surface activity — tricos and emerging midges.  Fran Betters will sell you some flies that you do not have in your fly box.  <g Dave LaCourse

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Two report pages: http://www.ausablewulff.com/updates.html http://www.ausableriversportshop.com/conditions.htm Obviously the first is out of date, so email or call from the home page.  The second is obviously more up-to-date, but I have to comment on something interesting there.  On the ausableriversportshop.com home page, it says "…the Conditions page – it will give you an honest, accurate account of what’s happening on the river today."  Well, how honest is that?  At the top it says "Today is Friday August 11."  That is, that’s what it says for *you*, if you’re reading it today, Aug 11.  But that’s not what it says for me, because I was doing a little playing with my computer and changed the date (for a different reason).  Point being, they imply the page is updated each day, but in fact it just picks that date up from whatever the current date is set to on your computer! Regards, Jeff

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I was in Syracuse for the TU convention. I heard mixed reports on the Ausable. Some good; some not so good. Al << Hi all, I will be in Lake Placid next week, anyone know the conditions/hatches on the west branch? Thanks! Bob

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[stuff I agree with snipped] With the Fuji’s you don’t really lose anything over a conventional snake guide, but you pick up some advantages.

[more good stuff snipped], but… one thing about snake guides is that for a given "size", the hole is actually "bigger" than a comparably sized Fuji guide since the Fujis are closed circles and the snakes are helical. My experience is that knots and tangles more easily shake free through snakes than through Fujis.  However, with knots that have a tag end that sticks out a little, the snakes (since they are thin wires) tend to grab them more often than do the Fujis.   Mu

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I don’t know about wood grips outside of cork, but for guides, go with the Fuji ring guides.  I learned something this weekend that will help a bit even with them.  If you use 3 or more of the LSG-7J’s, make the one nearest the tip a UNSG-7J, on a 9′ rod use this guide for your last 2.  Also use an FST-7 tip.  These guides and tip are part of Fuji’s new concept line, and while the ring size remains unchanged, the ring height is lower, helping to bring the line closer to the blank in the last foot or so of the rod rather than all at once between the last guide and the tip.  The frame on the UNSG is also lighter than that of the LSG. If you want to use single leg wire guides, go for one that is coated rather than plated.  Plating will almost always peel, while coated (metal sprayed) guides should last quite a while.  There are many varieties of coatings available today and it’s a six of one, half a dozen of the other situation as to which is best.  As long as they come from a reputable source, you can choose for color and still get a great performing guide.  For salt water applications, I would go with a wire guide of some sort.  The insert guides will foul with salt buildup much quicker than wire guides. A good place for wood on a fly rod is in the reel seat.  For a 3 wt, a cork or wood seat with rings would be the thing to have.

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For salt water applications, I would go with a wire guide of some sort.  The insert guides will foul with salt buildup much quicker than wire guides.

I’ve heard that before.  I wonder why it’s so.  Is it just becasue there is greater surface area on a ceramic guide? Mu

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I’ve heard that same thing, but I’ve fished both types of guides quite a lot in salt water and have never found there to be much of a difference.  in either case, if salt DOES crust up on the guides, just swish it through the water back and forth a couple of times and it will be clear again. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For salt water applications, I would go with a wire guide of some sort.  The insert guides will foul with salt buildup much quicker than wire guides. I’ve heard that before.  I wonder why it’s so.  Is it just becasue there is greater surface area on a ceramic guide? Mu

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I am in the process of building my ulitmate lightweight rod and I have the ability to examine a few options I haven’t been able to afford in years past. I have never fished with a rod that has a wood handle but I like the look of the rods that are built with them.  Is Cocobolo or rosewood going to add significant weight to a 3 wt. rod compared to cork?  Any disadvantages to fishing with wood vs. cork handles?  Do they get uncomfortable after awhile? Next question.  I think I want to build this rod with single foot guides vs. double.  Again, I have never owned a rod with single foot guides.  The reduction in weight and the increased flexibility in the rod are attractive traits to gain.  What do I loose compared to a double foot guide? Last question.  I have had a fly shop owner try to tell me that the gold guides wear out a lot faster then the titanium coated guides.  Has anybody had first hand experience with this or was he just trying to sell me what he had vs. losing my buisness. Thanks

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– "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

I am in the process of building my ulitmate lightweight rod and I have the ability to examine a few options I haven’t been able to afford in years past. I have never fished with a rod that has a wood handle but I like the look of the rods that are built with them.  Is Cocobolo or rosewood going to add significant weight to a 3 wt. rod compared to cork?  Any disadvantages to fishing with wood vs. cork handles?  Do they get uncomfortable after awhile?

Complete wooden handles get slippery and difficult to hold very quickly, especially after handling fish or with wet hands. They also feel much colder to the touch, and the sensation of cold hands is very unpleasant after a while. Next question.  I think I want to build this rod with single foot guides vs. double.  Again, I have never owned a rod with single foot guides.  The reduction in weight and the increased flexibility in the rod are attractive traits to gain.  What do I loose compared to a double foot guide?

Basically some stability.  If you knock a single foot ring it will be more liable to slip than if you knocked a double foot ring. There is no appreciable increase in flexibility when using single foot as opposed to double foot rings.  The best rings for small lightweight fly-rods are probably snakes. Last question.  I have had a fly shop owner try to tell me that the gold guides wear out a lot faster then the titanium coated guides.  Has anybody had first hand experience with this or was he just trying to sell me what he had vs. losing my buisness.

Gold plated guides are useless, gold is a very soft metal, and will wear out in no time.  Titanium nitride is a gold coloured coating often used to protect HSS cutting surfaces. It is commonly used in industry for the tips of drill bits and similar tools as it is extremely tough and hard. Many modern guides have this protective coating.  Various oxides of metal are used as protective coatings for various metals, aluminium oxide for instance, among others. These vary in colour, but in the natural state are usually a dull grey. Many modern high performance guides have highly polished ceramic inserts made of sintered ceramic/metal oxide mixtures. Some snake rings are coated with special coatings, such as Titanium nitride for toughness and hardness. Practically any top quality guides from a reputable maker are suitable for fly-rods. Many people like the Fuji titanium guides or the gold cermets, which are expensive, but according to many people the best available. The URL is    http://www.fujitackle.com/eindex.html Further info is at :   http://www.mudhole.com/docs/fuji.html and  :   http://www.shofftackle.com/fujialum.html This should provide all the information you require. TL MC

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Wooden handles are also a lot heavier than cork handles. ( I forgot that in the previous post ).  Often a combination of hardwood and aluminium is used as a butt and reel seat, with cork as the grip. One other URL which might be of interest to you is : http://www.jannsnetcraft.com — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Practically any top quality guides from a reputable maker are suitable for fly-rods. Many people like the Fuji titanium guides or the gold cermets, which are expensive, but according to many people the best available.

I use the Fuji’s (cermets) on my 5wt. They absolutely sing. Flexability isn’t necessarily the issue, it’s drag on the line. Fuji’s have much less drag than snake eyes. Flyfish

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I am in the process of building my ulitmate lightweight rod and I have the ability to examine a few options I haven’t been able to afford in years past. I have never fished with a rod that has a wood handle but I like the look of the rods that are built with them.  Is Cocobolo or rosewood going to add significant weight to a 3 wt. rod compared to cork?  Any disadvantages to fishing with wood vs. cork handles?  Do they get uncomfortable after awhile?

I wouldn’t advise the wooden handles.  I’m an avid woodturner as well as a flyfisherman, and I’ve tried to do this in the past.  Wooden handles are hard on the hands, tend to be slippery, and are cold in the winter.  They also have a tendency to absorb water and check/distort.  Lastly, they are rigid, which can be a problem, especially with slower action light rods.  A cork handle will flex with the blank, while a wooden handle will remain rigid and concentrate stress at the upper end of the handle where the blank exits. Next question.  I think I want to build this rod with single foot guides vs. double.  Again, I have never owned a rod with single foot guides.  The reduction in weight and the increased flexibility in the rod are attractive traits to gain.  What do I loose compared to a double foot guide?

This is a religious issue.  I build a lot of rods, and personally I prefer the Fuji single-foot guides.  I don’t recommend the "single-foot snake" guides that have shown up in the last few years, as I’ve found them to add little value and to be a bit fragile.   With the Fuji’s you don’t really lose anything over a conventional snake guide, but you pick up some advantages.  Among these are fewer wraps, which will reduce both time to build the rod and weight.  You also get better line control, improved shooting characteristics, and longer life from the guides.  Keep in mind, though, that’s my opinion – your mileage may vary. Last question.  I have had a fly shop owner try to tell me that the gold guides wear out a lot faster then the titanium coated guides.  Has anybody had first hand experience with this or was he just trying to sell me what he had vs. losing my buisness.

I’m not aware of a true "gold-coated" guide.  The golden colored guides that I’ve seen are plated with titanium nitride, which will substantially improve their wear resistance.  Personally, I tend to use Fuji’s solid titanium frame guides, with a silicon carbide insert ring.   They’re lighter than snake guides, and the titanium frames are virtually immune to corrosion – something to consider for extremely light rods or those that will be used in salt water environments. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thanks

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I use the Fuji’s (cermets) on my 5wt. They absolutely sing. Flexability isn’t necessarily the issue, it’s drag on the line. Fuji’s have much less drag than snake eyes.

I’ll second that! They are bloody expensive, but I have Fuji cermet lined titanium framed rings on only three of my rods – the three that I use most. In future, I probably wouldn’t bother specifying Ti frames on the big butt stripping rings (or the next one up) since these guides are so far back down the rod and close to the rod hand that the few grammes saving in mass makes bugger all difference to anything. Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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I’ll be in the Denver area next weekend and have 1 day free for some fly fishing.  Any suggestions on where to go this time of year? Don

Hi Don, Denver sits on the banks of Lake Norman. It’s a lake full of specs, bass, catfish, and panfish. The Catawba river flows into it and out of it through a dam. It’s a great place to fish and relax here in the NC piedmont. It does get hot as hell in the summer though. Ooops, oh, that Denver……sorry, Waldo…to damn early in the am.

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I’ll be in the Denver area next weekend and have 1 day free for some fly fishing.  Any suggestions on where to go this time of year? Don

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Quoting powlesla from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    <"Foolishness"? You obviously don’t appreciate how dangerous PETA    <really is.    <They want to ban all fishing and they will say and do anything to    <achieve that goal. Check out  http://www.peta.org  "People Eating Tasty Animals"  Its a riot! Jim Carlisle

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OOPS! Sorry Jim, didn’t know you were conducting a vote…record this as an anti-Jim vote….thanks for the reminder about the kill file.  Why don’t you use it to avoid Walker posts and spare the rest of us all of your aggravation? Sorry, no can do. By the number of anti-Tim posts I have been

seeing, I’d say you are in the minority.<<                         Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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 I have tryed to post a message several times & nothing seems to show-up. Obviously I do not understand how to post. So If anyone reads this, please explain how to do so… The "Post New Article" icon does not yield any results ? Thanks New

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I have tryed to post a message several times & nothing seems to show-up. Obviously I do not understand how to post. So If anyone reads this, please explain how to do so… The "Post New Article" icon does not yield any results ?

Terry: If I’m replying, it’s because you were successful in posting to the rec.outdoors.fishing.fly group. What newsreader are you using? If you’re unable to see your own posts, it’s because your newsreader considers your posts "read" already. Try setting your newsreader to display read posts (or not to skip old articles, whatever – depends on the newwsreader), and you should be able to see your own posts. Cheers! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <         "Read this and nobody gets hurt ;^)"         < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Dave, Thanks for the information, I am new to this but finally think have it figured-out. Gail

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I am a member of the( Golden Spread Flyfishers) Amarillo, Texas I am looking for some good examples of information and articles to enclude in our news letter. If you have a copy of a current news letter from your Fly Fishing Club, Please E-Mail a copy or the file. TO:

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Hi Ken, You can also contact the Federation of Fly Fishers at 1-800-618-0808.   They have PC disc available for FFF club newletters.  Call and see what they have. Good Luck Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (request a catalog)

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I am a member of the( Golden Spread Flyfishers) Amarillo, Texas I am looking for some good examples of information and articles to enclude in our news letter.

If you want to produce a newsletter that is popular and always gets read, concentrate on information about the local/regional fishing. The most popular feature in our newsletter is the "Fishing Journal" where members report where they went locally (though they are often understandably vague about exact locations), what they used, what the conditions were, and what they caught (or didn’t catch).  Of course, to do a regular feature like this, it helps to have some members who actually FISH on a regular basis. You’ll probably find that 10% of the club members do 90% of the fishing. Other popular stories people want in their club newsletter: Fly recipes and tying instructions for patterns which are proven producers on local waters.(and how/where to fish them). Any information about local fisheries you can get from your state fish and game managers. Get to know these people and call regularly. First hand accounts by members on "week end" fishing trips to places within a 3-8 hour  drive. Lodging, food, fishing quality, access etc. New items or greatly reduced sale items at the local fly shops. Overlooked local waters for lunch time/evening "quick outings". Local Tackle buy/sell/trade classifieds. In short, go with your strength: local information.  You can’t compete with the slick national mags for general "how to" fishing info, so give your members what they can’t get anywhere else: good, solid information on how to enjoy their sport close to home. Doing a really good job on a newsletter takes a lot of effort, but you will actually enjoy your own fly fishing more using what you learn doing it.

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