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I have a 9′  for 5 that I built a couple of years ago.  In the right hands it  seems to cast a good line.  Medium to medium fast action.  If you would like, you could stop by and try it the next time you are headed to Cornwall. Chris Richer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  My only Talon rod is a light 10.5 ft spinning rod,  so I really don’t know.  Angler’s Workshop always  lists a small number of Talon blanks in their catalog.  You might want to give them a call to see if they will  tell you anything about them. Thanks, found it.  It’s in their VI Plus series.  I’ve never casted a Talon or even held one in my hands, do you know what they’re like? Remove "XX" from address

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I have a 9′  for 5 that I built a couple of years ago.  In the right hands it  seems to cast a good line.  Medium to medium fast action.  If you would like, you could stop by and try it the next time you are headed to Cornwall. Chris Richer

I appreciate that Rick, I’ll be in Cornwall, Saturday, September 21st. If that’s OK for you I can send you my phone number and we can arrange something – maybe chase a few smallies. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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still trying to find a good anchoring system to use with my kayak. The dealer kit [anchor off bow and line to cleat beside cockpit]  forces the boat to face upstream or upwind according to the conditions. This forces me to cast into wind and fight fish around anchor line. Also I cannot get to anchor if it gets hung up. Anyone got a suggestion for a better rig.? Joe McIntosh

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Petah I’d look at http://www.tomwhite.com I’ve gotten several of his GLoomis IMX blems and they’ve been turned into fine rods. He’s friendly, has good service and ships at 1/2 of warp speed. YMMV Flyfish

I’ve sent him an email – we’ll see what happens. Thanks Peter Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Anyone have a source for spey rod blems (or just a good source for spey blanks)?  Winter’s coming up and I’ve got an itch to build a new rod. Thanks,      - Ken

Worth a try with Tom White, see my previous post. Flyfish

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I looked up a few lists I had from a year or so ago and found that Talon makes a 4 pc 8.5 ft 7 weight blank, but on the order of US$165 or so.  And if you strike out with everything else, you may want to at least check out Cabela’s 3 pc 8.5 ft 6-10 lb test spinning rod at $US79, don’t know if that particular blank is sold separately…  

Thanks, found it.  It’s in their VI Plus series.  I’ve never casted a Talon or even held one in my hands, do you know what they’re like? Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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 Apart from spending big bucks on a saltwater Vector or Heliply, I’m SOL.  

Those are both nice rods, and would give you an excuse to do a little flats fishing now and then. <g — Charlie…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yup, I know.  The 8′6" length 7wt. apparently is popular as a brookie rod for fishing on Quebec lakes out of canoes and boats.  I found my old one to be ideal for steelheading out of a drift boat and for all day blind casting for smallies.  There used to be a few different models on the market but I suppose the demand for them was low and they’ve been discontinued. Peter, If the only problem with the rods is portability, have you considered a car top carrier such as a Yakima or Thule? The cost would likely be about the same as a "good" rod, and could be used for other purposes as well. Just a thought.

I’ve looked at those before, but I’d rather have something that would fit in the trunk.  I haul computers and manuals plus occasional suitcases all over Ontario for my job.  It’s nice to be able to tuck in a couple of rods as well. I used to keep a Cabelas Stowaway 3 wt., a Daiwa 4/5 and a Cortland 8/9 (really a 9 wt.) in the a big bag in the back of my truck.  It worked great but over time I found the Cortland to be too much rod for most of the fish and the Stowaway was redundant.  I currently have a nice St. Croix 8 wt. but I lack spools and lines for it.  OTOH, I have loads of 7 wt. lines mounted.  So it’s six of one half-dozen of the other, do I buy more lines and spools for the 8 or buy a 7 wt. rod? I know what Wayne Knight would say, "Buy both." Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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 Apart from spending big bucks on a saltwater Vector or Heliply, I’m SOL.   Those are both nice rods, and would give you an excuse to do a little flats fishing now and then. <g

If you could see the nice, shiny new 48" Thermador range in the kitchen of the nice, shiny new house, you’d know why Vector and Heliply are off my list.  :) Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yup, I know.  The 8′6" length 7wt. apparently is popular as a brookie rod for fishing on Quebec lakes out of canoes and boats.  I found my old one to be ideal for steelheading out of a drift boat and for all day blind casting for smallies.  There used to be a few different models on the market but I suppose the demand for them was low and they’ve been discontinued. Peter, If the only problem with the rods is portability, have you considered a car top carrier such as a Yakima or Thule? The cost would likely be about the same as a "good" rod, and could be used for other purposes as well. Just a thought.

And if I may, why does it have to fit in the trunk?  Is it a security thing, or…???  Either way, a couple of questions – are you willing to finish/refinish something, and does it have to graphite? TC, R

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you’d know why Vector and Heliply are off my list.  :)

Well, you don’t have to get both right away. <g — Charlie…

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And if I may, why does it have to fit in the trunk?  Is it a security thing, or…???  Either way, a couple of questions – are you willing to finish/refinish something, and does it have to graphite? TC, R

I know that there are some fiberglass blanks kicking around in a 7 wt. (Fenglas?) but they generally don’t have the horsepower to handle wind, etc. so that’s why I wasn’t really considering them. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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models on the market but I suppose the demand for them was low and they’ve been discontinued. Could you build one out of a 9′ 6wt blank that you cut back? Maybe I’m just showing my ignorance, Jon.

I considered that – get a cheap blank and chop 6" off the tip. However, I’d have to be very careful that I choose a blank that doesn’t exhibit a radical thickening of the blank just beyond the tip. Some of the cheaper ones I’ve had don’t maintain a thin tip very far down the blank.  If I chopped one of those, I might end up with a one very brutal rod.   Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I considered that – get a cheap blank and chop 6" off the tip.

What about a cheap "tip-flex" and cut 6" off the butt? — Charlie…

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I considered that – get a cheap blank and chop 6" off the tip. What about a cheap "tip-flex" and cut 6" off the butt?

It’ll speed up the rod somewhat by the line rating probably won’t change. It’s probably the least risky of the two ends.  Alternately, if I found an 11′ 4 piece, I just leave off the bottom piece.  Daiwa has a few in that length that I should check out. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I used to have a short 7 wt. and my son owns one too, unfortunately they are (were) both 2 piece rods and I need one that’ll fit in the trunk of the Golf.  Apart from spending big bucks on a saltwater Vector or Heliply, I’m SOL.   Anyone know of an affordable 8′6" multi piece 7 wt.? BTW, my previous short 7 wt. and my son’s are mostly used for smallies, small stream steelheading, and fishing from drift boats etc. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

Petah I’d look at http://www.tomwhite.com I’ve gotten several of his GLoomis IMX blems and they’ve been turned into fine rods. He’s friendly, has good service and ships at 1/2 of warp speed. YMMV Flyfish

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Petah I’d look at http://www.tomwhite.com I’ve gotten several of his GLoomis IMX blems and they’ve been turned into fine rods. He’s friendly, has good service and ships at 1/2 of warp speed.

Anyone have a source for spey rod blems (or just a good source for spey blanks)?  Winter’s coming up and I’ve got an itch to build a new rod. Thanks,      - Ken

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And if I may, why does it have to fit in the trunk?  Is it a security thing, or…???  Either way, a couple of questions – are you willing to finish/refinish something, and does it have to graphite? TC, R I know that there are some fiberglass blanks kicking around in a 7 wt. (Fenglas?) but they generally don’t have the horsepower to handle wind, etc. so that’s why I wasn’t really considering them. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

I was actually thinking of the Eagle Claw/Wright and McGill travel rods (some are combo spin/fly) or "redesigning" something like an older (and cheaper) Silaflex or Conolon fiberglass rods out there by adding joints. You could find an old darlin’ for 10-20.00US (800CDN <G), and be done for under 100.00US and a small amount of time.  FWIW, a lot of the old rods in the range in question will toss some line.  Of course, they aren’t featherweights, and Lefty won’t wanna borrow your gear, but OTOH, Lefty won’t wanna borrow yer gear <G.  And if some punk does "borrow" your gear, it ain’t the end of the world. TC, R

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I used to have a short 7 wt. and my son owns one too, unfortunately they are (were) both 2 piece rods and I need one that’ll fit in the trunk of the Golf.  Apart from spending big bucks on a saltwater Vector or Heliply, I’m SOL.   Anyone know of an affordable 8′6" multi piece 7 wt.? BTW, my previous short 7 wt. and my son’s are mostly used for smallies, small stream steelheading, and fishing from drift boats etc. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Just lend me a 9 footer and it will be down to size in no time.

LOL got any spares? Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Check out Temple Fork they have excellent pricing, good selection, I have used several of there rods and have been very happy.

I used to have a short 7 wt. and my son owns one too, unfortunately they are (were) both 2 piece rods and I need one that’ll fit in the trunk of the Golf.  Apart from spending big bucks on a saltwater Vector or Heliply, I’m SOL. Anyone know of an affordable 8′6" multi piece 7 wt.? BTW, my previous short 7 wt. and my son’s are mostly used for smallies, small stream steelheading, and fishing from drift boats etc. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at

http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Check out Temple Fork they have excellent pricing, good selection, I have used several of there rods and have been very happy.

will do, thanks Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Hi Peter, You might have trouble finding a # 7 multipiece shorter than 9′. Orvis might have something. The Redington "Wayfarrer" 9′ #7, 5 pc is $195. The St.Croix "Avid" 9′ #7, 3 pc is $220. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com 800/400-0359 toll free USA

I used to have a short 7 wt. and my son owns one too, unfortunately they are (were) both 2 piece rods and I need one that’ll fit in the trunk of the Golf.  Apart from spending big bucks on a saltwater Vector or Heliply, I’m SOL. Anyone know of an affordable 8′6" multi piece 7 wt.? BTW, my previous short 7 wt. and my son’s are mostly used for smallies, small stream steelheading, and fishing from drift boats etc. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at

http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Hi Peter, You might have trouble finding a # 7 multipiece shorter than 9′. Orvis might have something.

Yup, I know.  The 8′6" length 7wt. apparently is popular as a brookie rod for fishing on Quebec lakes out of canoes and boats.  I found my old one to be ideal for steelheading out of a drift boat and for all day blind casting for smallies.  There used to be a few different models on the market but I suppose the demand for them was low and they’ve been discontinued. I already own a 9′6"  T&T Horizon steelhead 7 wt. so there isn’t much advantage to drop to a 9 footer vs. the 9′6"  I’ve used this rod in boats as well and it’s much more cumbersome for casting, manoeuvering around in the boat, and landing fish.  Its size and weight makes it less than ideal for all day casting.  I’ve mainly used it for nymphing and swinging wets for steelhead, a role for which it excels. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Yup, I know.  The 8′6" length 7wt. apparently is popular as a brookie rod for fishing on Quebec lakes out of canoes and boats.  I found my old one to be ideal for steelheading out of a drift boat and for all day blind casting for smallies.  There used to be a few different models on the market but I suppose the demand for them was low and they’ve been discontinued.

Peter, If the only problem with the rods is portability, have you considered a car top carrier such as a Yakima or Thule? The cost would likely be about the same as a "good" rod, and could be used for other purposes as well. Just a thought. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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I’ll be going to Deschutes and Waterton-Glacier park in Montana. Does anyone know of any good fly shops near by and some good trout streams? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ron

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I’ll be going to Deschutes and Waterton-Glacier park in Montana. Does anyone know of any good fly shops near by and some good trout streams? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ron

Er . . . There is a Deschutes River in Oregon (and a smaller Deschutes River in Washington), but I don’t know of a "Deschutes" in Montana?  If its the one in Oregon, there is a fine shop in Maupin, but if you are fishing the mouth from where the Deschutes meets the Columbia, you need to get your stuff in Portland (Kaufmans Streamborn in Beaverton?) or if coming down from Washington (I-5?) then Angler’s Workshop in Woodland is your best bet. As to the Waterton-Glacier area . . . I don’t know. Dave

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Dave, that wasn’t very clear. I should have said Deschutes OR and Waterton-Glacier Mt. Ron

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll be going to Deschutes and Waterton-Glacier park in Montana. Does anyone know of any good fly shops near by and some good trout streams? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ron Er . . . There is a Deschutes River in Oregon (and a smaller Deschutes River in Washington), but I don’t know of a "Deschutes" in Montana?  If its the one in Oregon, there is a fine shop in Maupin, but if you are fishing the mouth from where the Deschutes meets the Columbia, you need to get your stuff in Portland (Kaufmans Streamborn in Beaverton?) or if coming down from Washington (I-5?) then Angler’s Workshop in Woodland is your best bet. As to the Waterton-Glacier area . . . I don’t know. Dave

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Warren Findley: Other question.  Where do you find those colored beads at?

Spirit River makes them and I get them from Hunter’s.  You don’t have to tie the grw with them — it’s just an experiment and it seems to work (i.e., I caught fish with them).  Gold and copper work just as well. Dave LaCourse

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The shops I go to only has black, brass, silver, copper and gold.  Is there a place to mail order these or something?  I really like those colored beads.

Some of those strange colored beads are available from Orvis, and knowing Dave I suspect that is where he got his. If you want to mail order some very cool ones check out the plastic ones from Mike Hogue at MWFlytying.com. He has two types of colored plastic beads available, one type sinks and the other type float. Once he bought his Sage 0 weight for bluegill fishing he found that it was too light to be able to use normal metal beadhead flies, so he developed a couple of sources for different plastic beads. Also check out his pattern pages as he has some pretty cool flies on there as well. I think you will enjoy doing business with him. I have been a happy customer for several years now. When he goes to conclaves his mother and father help man his booth. You will have a chance to meet him During the FFF Conclave in August as he is teaching a class there. He knows his stuff and if he is doing a program on warmwater fly fishing you should try to attend if possible. Usual disclaimers, I am just a happy customer.He carries unusual materials at very good prices. I know I always seem to drop another hundred bucks on tying materials each time I order or see him at the Southern Conclave each year.   Big Dale

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Bid D. writes: Some of those strange colored beads are available from Orvis, and knowing Dave I suspect that is where he got his. If you want to mail order some very cool ones check out the plastic ones from Mike Hogue at MWFlytying.com. He has two types of colored plastic beads available, one type sinks and the other type float. Once he bought his Sage 0 weight for bluegill fishing he found that it was too light to be able to use normal metal beadhead flies, so he developed a couple of sources for different plastic beads.

I’ve never seen colored beads at Orvis.  Of course I only go there to buy doggie beds, maple syrup, silk shirts and lamps.  <g  The Spirit River beads are metal, probably alluminum.  The colors are baked on enamel (or so the package says).  I’ve seen and used the plastic ones.  I believe I  also bought them at Hunter’s. Dave LaCourse

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Compliments of Google: http://www.westfly.com/patterns/wet/greenrockworm.htm

You can also tie it without the beadhead.  Just dub the head a dark brown and pull out some on the bottom for legs.

Does anyone know why that LaFontaine tie has such long hackle sticking out for legs?  I don’t get it. — Regards, Jeff Before you buy.

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This is starting to sound a lot like a green-bodied GRHE.   The pattern on westfly.com has legs.   No legs on the LaPlac version? Joe F.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The LaFontaine version is a pretty good fly.  However, THE Green Rock Worm is as follows: Hook:  TMC 2487, size 12 – 16 Bead Head:  Gold, copper, green, black. Body:  V-rib or Larva Lace in the brightest green you can find (almost chartreause). Thorax:  Peacock herl. I sometimes build up the body with thread, making it narrow near the bend and wider near the thorax.  I then coat it with a sparkle polish.  This can be seen between the wraps of the Larva Lace and gives it some flash., Another  variation: Ribbing:  fine gold or copper wire. Body:  Bright green dubbing. You can also tie it without the beadhead.  Just dub the head a dark brown and pull out some on the bottom for legs. Dave LaCourse

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Charlie writes: I think that’s all LaPlac uses<g, I’m sure he’ll post his version. At the first clave I believe he gave away a set of what he said were the various ‘phases’ of the GRW, but I expect they were really just the same pattern tied over the course of a bottle of Stoli<g. — Charlie…

Not really.  Found three new patterns this spring, and they all worked as well. The flies I gave at the clave were all variations of caddis worms/larva/pupa, but not necessarily just the rock worm.  If I remember correctly, there was a grw, a couple of emergers, and a cased caddis.  The grw is a net builder, not a case builder. Dave LaCourse

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Joe F. This is starting to sound a lot like a green-bodied GRHE.   The pattern on westfly.com has legs.   No legs on the LaPlac version?

Normally, no.  But, the worm does have some legs up front, so without the bead head, pull out some of the dubbing to make it bushy.  Works for me……. Dave LaCourse

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Not really.  

I was just kidding. IIRC you included a sheet with some facts about each tie. Very nice. — Charlie…

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Peter Charles (Charlie’s understudy) writes: (snipped hilarity) Also look up GGW, "Green Grenade Warm"  and GTNTW "Green Dynamite Worm" for related ties. Recipe related to me by that famous practionner of the GRW, Louie LaPlac.

ROFL.  Wait until you see the Henry’s Ear (variation of the Hares Ear), the Black Rock Worm, and Henry’s Tail (variation of a PT).   Bring some streamer tying materials to the clave, Peter.  A fellow roffian gifted me with a book on Carrie Stevens and I would like to tie some streamers.  Great book, BTW. Hunter’s Angling has promised a copy for the Maine Clave raffle. Dave LaCourse

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The LaFontaine version is a pretty good fly.  However, THE Green Rock Worm is as follows:

One more question on this one.   You’re using white or light colored thread, yes?   I tied one with black thread & it sure didn’t look like much (duh).    Haven’t found chartreuse Larva Lace locally yet; I’m working with V-rib until I put in an order with H&H. (Maybe I’ll just wait and pick some up in Freeport, then tie ‘em up lakeside by lantern light.   Ah, the romance.) Joe F.

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Joe Fleischman writes: One more question on this one.   You’re using white or light colored thread, yes?   I tied one with black thread & it sure didn’t look like much (duh).   Haven’t found chartreuse Larva Lace locally yet; I’m working with V-rib until I put in an order with H&H. (Maybe I’ll just wait and pick some up in Freeport, then tie ‘em up lakeside by lantern light.   Ah, the romance.) Joe F.

I usually use green thread, but white or whatever should work, *except* black or any other dark color. When are you leaving for Moosehead?  I have your address, so I could send you some along with some larva lace.  No problem. Dave LaCourse

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Should have added, Joe:  Try tying it with dubbing and gold ribbing, with peacock herl at the thorax.  It actually works as well as the v-rib.  V-rib is easier to tie.   Let me know when you are leaving and I will get a CARE package off to you, including some dubbing. Dave LaCourse

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Should have added, Joe:  Try tying it with dubbing and gold ribbing, with peacock herl at the thorax.  It actually works as well as the v-rib.  V-rib is easier to tie.   Let me know when you are leaving and I will get a CARE package off to you, including some dubbing.

Actually, you offered that variation in a previous post.   I think I’m well covered for most of the ingredients except the larva lace.   I have beads in various sizes & colors, dubbing, gold thread, peacock herl, & hooks.   I didn’t spend $200, but I made a respectable dent in a C-note.  :-)   I picked up some Antron dubbing in a sparkle chartreuse that looks neat for the GRW, but I haven’t tied anything with it yet. Joe F.

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Joe, package is ready and will be in the mail tomorrow morning.  I’ve included a couple of different ties, plus two size 20 midges that I *hope* will float vertically.  At least that is the way I tied them to fload.  I have seen these small midges caught in the foam on the Rapid and have tied them from memory — but, I *am* an old geezer, so can’t say they’ll work.  Give ‘em a try and let me know.  Don’t cast them — dab them down-stream in small gentle riffle/current. Dave LaCourse

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One more question on this one.   You’re using white or light colored thread, yes?   I tied one with black thread & it sure didn’t look like much (duh).   Haven’t found chartreuse Larva Lace locally yet; I’m working with V-rib until I put in an order with H&H.

Couldn’t you use clear Larva Lace wrapped over chartreuse floss? Regards, Jeff

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jeff c. Yep.  But it doesn’t look very much like the natural.  The bright green larva lace or the dubbing ribbed mimics the natural. Dave LaCourse

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Should have added, Joe:  Try tying it with dubbing and gold ribbing, with peacock herl at the thorax.  It actually works as well as the v-rib.  V-rib is easier to tie.   Let me know when you are leaving and I will get a CARE package off to you, including some dubbing. Dave LaCourse

I’ve tied the BHGRW three different ways: using the bright green lace wo/rib, using a bright green floss under clear lace again sans rib, and using the same floss with a gold wire rib. Always a bead (sometimes brass, sometimes tungsten) and always peacock herl. daytripper (It’s all good! ;^)

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Joe, package is ready and will be in the mail tomorrow morning.  I’ve included a couple of different ties, plus two size 20 midges that I *hope* will float vertically.  At least that is the way I tied them to fload.  I have seen these small midges caught in the foam on the Rapid and have tied them from memory — but, I *am* an old geezer, so can’t say they’ll work.  Give ‘em a try and let me know.  Don’t cast them — dab them down-stream in small gentle riffle/current.

Thanks.   I’ll wait with much anticipation.   Joe F. (Just downloaded new newsgroup software & have no idea if this will appear correctly; but if so, I’ll finally be able to read ROFF at home.)

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Thanks.   I’ll wait with much anticipation.

I apologize for my roffian Grandpa Joe.  "fload" should be "float."  He may not be able to type worth a crap, but I’ll be damned if he can’t drive a car like all hell.  Just wish that lead foot would have found its way out to the clave. Actually I am replying because I really do have a question.  I tied up a dozen of these bad boys today and they didn’t exactly turn out quite like I hoped, but they are pretty damn neat.  My first problem was the I got the medium larva lace instead of small because it looked small enough. Second was that it is too light in color.  I mean this s.o.b. looks like some kind of radioactive glow stick!  Might work well like that, but my question is would changing to a more olive thread help tone it down a bit? Other question.  Where do you find those colored beads at?  The shops I go to only has black, brass, silver, copper and gold.  Is there a place to mail order these or something?  I really like those colored beads. The caddis is out and about over here so I plan on using a bunch of these during the clave.  I devoted this weekend to tying caddis and quit and moved on to other things out of boredom already.  I have been at the vise all day.  I did the caddis Herman tied, Dave’s GRW, X-caddis, Goddard caddis, and EHCs. Got a little bored so I moved on to humpies and now am at stimulators in size 12-16.  Just going crazy over here.  Even tied up a bunch of those tiny little things Willi tied for the fly swap.  Those were pretty fun and not all that difficult once you get used to the material.  The main problem with those is actually seeing them.  Thank god for that magnifier light I have and I even have 20/20+ vision! <g BTW, Joe you made it out of the fly shop easier than I did today.  I fell between you and Dave.  Nearly broke myself and the clave still hasn’t started. Oh well, bills can wait another month <g Warren X#-[

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Thanks to Dave L’s reminder, I began looking through Deja News for intructions on tying the GRW (I’d have sworn it was posted here once before).   Couldn’t find it.   How do I tie this?   Or do you have to kill me if you tell me?  :-) Joe F.

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Thanks to Dave L’s reminder, I began looking through Deja News for intructions on tying the GRW (I’d have sworn it was posted here once before).   Couldn’t find it.   How do I tie this?   Or do you have to kill me if you tell me?  :-)

Compliments of Google: http://www.westfly.com/patterns/wet/greenrockworm.htm — Charlie…

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Compliments of Google: http://www.westfly.com/patterns/wet/greenrockworm.htm

Yep, thanks.   I found that one as well as a few more, none of which seem to agree on any component material except maybe their color.   If there’s a "ROFF standard" version, tested and sworn to success by our numerous and talented field staff, I’d love to hear it.  :-) Joe F.

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If there’s a "ROFF standard" version, tested and sworn to success by our numerous and talented field staff, I’d love to hear it.  :-)

I think that’s all LaPlac uses<g, I’m sure he’ll post his version. At the first clave I believe he gave away a set of what he said were the various ‘phases’ of the GRW, but I expect they were really just the same pattern tied over the course of a bottle of Stoli<g. — Charlie…

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Joe F. writes: Compliments of Google: http://www.westfly.com/patterns/wet/greenrockworm.htm Yep, thanks.   I found that one as well as a few more, none of which seem to agree on any component material except maybe their color.   If there’s a "ROFF standard" version, tested and sworn to success by our numerous and talented field staff, I’d love to hear it.  :-) Joe F.

The LaFontaine version is a pretty good fly.  However, THE Green Rock Worm is as follows: Hook:  TMC 2487, size 12 – 16 Bead Head:  Gold, copper, green, black. Body:  V-rib or Larva Lace in the brightest green you can find (almost chartreause). Thorax:  Peacock herl. I sometimes build up the body with thread, making it narrow near the bend and wider near the thorax.  I then coat it with a sparkle polish.  This can be seen between the wraps of the Larva Lace and gives it some flash., Another  variation: Ribbing:  fine gold or copper wire. Body:  Bright green dubbing. You can also tie it without the beadhead.  Just dub the head a dark brown and pull out some on the bottom for legs. Dave LaCourse

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Yep, thanks.   I found that one as well as a few more, none of which seem to agree on any component material except maybe their color.   If there’s a "ROFF standard" version, tested and sworn to success by our numerous and talented field staff, I’d love to hear it.  :-) Joe F.

ROFF standard GRW. 3 lb. rock mashed up worm green paint XINK Take three or four big juicy worms, place them in a bowl, empty the contents of the XINK bottle into a bowl then mash worms and mix thoroughly.  Take a nice smooth rock, spray with flourescent green paint then when dry, spread the XINK soaked mashed worm all over it. Keep refridgerated. Instructions on use: Locate salmonid Throw rock at it. Stand by with net to scoop salmonid. If the rock misses the salmonid, remain vigilant as within a few moments, the toxic chemicals in XINK will undoutedly result in the demise of the salmonid.  Do not dispense with the the mashed worm as it aids in the distribution of the XINK.  The green paint allows the fisherman to locate his rock should he ever put it down amongst other rocks. Also look up GGW, "Green Grenade Warm"  and GTNTW "Green Dynamite Worm" for related ties. Recipe related to me by that famous practionner of the GRW, Louie LaPlac. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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How is flyfishing this year in Kamloops Area?

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It was a long cool spring, and the past two weeks have been downright crappy, but the last few days of warm weather should be bringing up some bugs.  It’s still lake to lake as to action, some have been hot, many cold, but they should be consistently coming around in the next couple of weeks. Most lakes within a 1/2 hour of pavement have been quite busy on weekends, so going off the back roads will be needed for some quiet time on the water. Mild winter this year means that many of the smaller lakes haven’t winterkilled so prospects are good.  Cheers, Geoff McD.

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We just got back this week, and I’ll agree that the weather was crappy; everything but snow! Fishing wasn’t all that bad however. Caddis are starting to show nicely….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It was a long cool spring, and the past two weeks have been downright crappy, but the last few days of warm weather should be bringing up some bugs.  It’s still lake to lake as to action, some have been hot, many cold, but they should be consistently coming around in the next couple of weeks. Most lakes within a 1/2 hour of pavement have been quite busy on weekends, so going off the back roads will be needed for some quiet time on the water. Mild winter this year means that many of the smaller lakes haven’t winterkilled so prospects are good.  Cheers, Geoff McD.

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I’m fairly new to fly fishing and was wondering what is the most popular leader. I currently use a tapered leader but the braided leaders sure look good. Any suggestions? Is there a diffrence in how they turn over???

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After a while the braided ones tend to get a wee bit floppy in transferring their power but it would be a toss-up. Usulaly the tapered ones are done by then too. They get "wind knots" my euphamism for tailing loops in my casting technique. They come out of the braided leaders more easily.   — Free Lake Fly Fishing On-Line Magazine Lake Fly Fishing CD’s, Videos, Books http://www.rural.escape.ca/angling_north/fishing/organz.htm

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I’m fairly new to fly fishing and was wondering what is the most popular leader. I currently use a tapered leader but the braided leaders sure look good. Any suggestions? Is there a diffrence in how they turn over???

I used to use braided leaders, and like a lot of folks, stopped because they picked up water and spooked fish with spray. Recently, I’ve started using Airflo poly leaders.  Much better turnover than tapered nylon, even better than braided, and no spray problem. They’re still relatively hard to find…check out http://www.ezflyfish.com/ezflyfish/airfloleaders.html Michael — www.geocities.com/yosemite/falls/3363 Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I’m scheduled the weekend before the Canadian Thanksgiving, October 10th.

I mean the weekend *of* Thanksgiving – can’t read a damn calendar anymore. Peter

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Peter Charles: (snip) <<"Son, I can bring you to the fish, but *you* have to catch’em."  Must be a real guide, eh? Sounds about right.  He left out the part about leaving his ears intact.  <g Dave L.

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Peter Charles: <<"Son, I can bring you to the fish, but *you* have to catch’em."  Must be a real guide, eh? Sounds about right.  He left out the part about leaving his ears intact.  <g

You must hear that a lot, Dave… /daytripper ;^)

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Tripper : <Sounds about right.  He left out the part about leaving his ears intact.  <g

You must hear that a lot, Dave… /daytripper ;^) Heh, heh, heh.  When I am in Labrador with one of the grand kids, we (the guide and I) always place the guide to the left of the grand son.  When we putt-putt up river, the guide is in the middle and Jeff or Brian is in the stern.  When we float down river bow first, we reverse locations.  One guide actually said "Shift" when we were to make the transition.  <g See you up there the week of the 6th?  I’ll have a six pack of Sleeman’s.  Hafta save the rest for the NC Gang in October. Dave L.

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[snip] See you up there the week of the 6th?  I’ll have a six pack of Sleeman’s.  Hafta save the rest for the NC Gang in October.

It’s looking good so far. I have to move my younger son into his college dorm on the 5th, the older one doesn’t leave for London ’til the 20th, so I should be able to come up for a few days at least. How many are you going to be? Need a bunky, Bunky? ;^) fwiw: Had a lovely day in Wellfleet, and now I’m sitting on a deck chair clicking away under starlight, accompanied by the sounds of the sea. Opus the Wonderlab is conked out against my feet, a cool Dundee’s rests within reach. Very nice indeed. /daytripper

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Tripper: <<Had a lovely day in Wellfleet, and now I’m sitting on a deck chair clicking away under starlight, accompanied by the sounds of the sea. Opus the Wonderlab is conked out against my feet, a cool Dundee’s rests within reach. Ahaaa, a Dundee’s.  I have converted another. I invited wayno up, but I haven’t heard from him.  I think he’s still in St. Louis.  Jo isn’t going — she’s heading to Georgia for a family reunion.  Just me and Henry.  Room for more if you wish.  I tied up something that I think will be a killer.  Will show you up there.  I had problems with it (parachute), but Peter set me right.  I still have two mountain bikes up there, so if you come, don’t bother with your’s.                         I need to do some fishing! Dave

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I invited wayno up, but I haven’t heard from him.  I think he’s still in St. Louis.  Jo isn’t going — she’s heading to Georgia for a family reunion.   Dave

ok now dave…surely you’ve noticed something here, eh?  wayno in st. louis, jo headed to georgia???  hmmm… <ggg jeff

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Jeff Miller: <<ok now dave…surely you’ve noticed something here, eh?  wayno in st. louis, jo headed to georgia???  hmmm… <ggg   <BSEG  Jo isn’t going to Georgia until September.  Besides, wayno loves life.  Course, you could come also.  The alewifes will be running and the salmon going crazy over them. Dave L.

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Charlie Choc: <<ok now dave…surely you’ve noticed something here, eh?  wayno in st. louis, jo headed to georgia???  hmmm… <ggg

Shhhhhhh<g. — Charlie… You forgot the "iiiiitttttttt".  <g Dave…

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dave –  fished the ale-wife streams during my younger years…but the ale-husbands always got tangled in my line…now, i’m absolutely content in the nc trout streams…but, i’ve been talkin to pj about takin a look at Maine next year.  we’ve never been that far north.  do we need a visa? jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jeff Miller: <<ok now dave…surely you’ve noticed something here, eh?  wayno in st. louis, jo headed to georgia???  hmmm… <ggg   <BSEG  Jo isn’t going to Georgia until September.  Besides, wayno loves life.  Course, you could come also.  The alewifes will be running and the salmon going crazy over them. Dave L.

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Jeff Miller: <<dave –  fished the ale-wife streams during my younger years…but the ale-husbands always got tangled in my line…now, i’m absolutely content in the nc trout streams…but, i’ve been talkin to pj about takin a look at Maine next year.  we’ve never been that far north.  do we need a visa? Visa?  No, but you should probably put a leash on PJ once you get into Pennsylvania or New York.  <g  I was thinking about old PJ this morning and his come back when I said I was gonna kick his ass.  He said, "Better bring your lunch."  LOL.  Hell, I think I’d need a catoring truck.  <g   I hope you can both make it next year. Oh, yeah……. if you drive up, *you* drive.  <g Dave LaCourse

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I’ve been having pretty good luck on the Grand with streamers lately. The water is high and off colour so the dry acttion is very slow and I’m not much of a nympher.  (BTW, is a female angler who nymphs, a nymphette?)  Anyway, I’m out slugging streamers with my six weight and I’ve taken a few fish when I notice a few rises, nothing regular but things are starting to happen. At about 6:30, I notice the water is literally carpeted with trico spinners.  Every square foot must have between 20 to 50 of the little buggers.  Now the browns are rising regularly but with so many naturals, will I stand a chance? A small fish was working a seam and I put a few casts over him, directly through his window, but no dice.  My ties are size 22 and the naturals are about a 24, so I use my clippers to reduce the wings.  I add on about 3′ of 7X to my 9′ leader and start looking for a new victim. While I was doing the manicure thing, a huge brown makes a massive rise about 75′ upstream.  But that’s it, nothing more.  So I concentrate on a small one working another seam in front of me.  After about 30 casts, the little guy finally takes it and I land a nice, bright 8" brown. I work my way upstream toward the big one but she doesn’t show herself again.  A nice sized fish is working regularly so I decide to go after him instead.  Now things get difficult.  First off, I’m trying to short cast a #22 on a 12′ 7X leader with my stout six weight streamer rod – not good.  Second problem, the trout is not working a seam, rather he’s drifting around a big flat and his rises are neither regular nor consistently in the same spot.  Without belabouring things, I cast to this bugger for an hour.  There are so many naturals on the water that many times I think he’s taken the fly when he’s really taken a natural that was riding beside it.  Twice I think I’ve bumped him and put him down, but the dining is too good and he never pauses.  Since he has no rhythym, I’m often in midcast when he comes up.  Sometimes I have the pleasure of watching my fly drift through the spreading rings of his rise it having arrived two seconds too late. Finally I realize that is fish has got the better of me so I make the decision to try ten more casts then call it quits.  Ten nothing . . . nine nothing . . . then on number six, he takes it.  After a short but stubborn fight I land him, a nice 11" brown. This is one of those evenings that will stay stuck in my memory for a long time.  A finicky fish, an absolutely massive trico spinner fall, and finally scoring when I had decided to quit.  Just to add to the evening, I crossed Bronte Creek on the way home and ran into a trico snowstorm on the bridge — yeeeuuch what a mess. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html

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Peter Charles: (great story snip) <<Just to add to the evening, I crossed Bronte Creek on the way home and ran into a trico snowstorm on the bridge — yeeeuuch what a mess. May have been a mess, Peter, but it was an enjoyable read.  <g When is your float trip down the Grand? Dave LaCourse

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At about 6:30, I notice the water is literally carpeted with trico spinners.  Every square foot must have between 20 to 50 of the little buggers.  Now the browns are rising regularly but with so many naturals, will I stand a chance?

I’m going down to Silver Creek to fish the trico hatch this morning. Here’s the way it works there. (Repeating something I posted a few days ago.) When the spinner fall starts — which can be truly massive — pods of large fish start feeding together. They don’t rise to individual flies. They just stay on the surface, with their heads sweeping back and forth, gulping large numbers of flies. If you’re lucky or knowledgeable enough to be above one of these pods it gets really exciting. You have to present the fly downstream right into a fish’s mouth. They won’t budge for an individual fly. The fish are so gluttonous at this point that if you put down the pod with a clumsy take-up they’re back to feeding in just a few seconds. There are trico spinner patterns but I don’t use them because I can’t see them. I use the much more visible dun pattern, which seems to work fine. With so many flies the fish don’t inspect each one with their customary finickyness. — Those who say do not know; those who know do not say. — Lao Tsu, who must have been a fisherman. something bogus to avoid spam)

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… This is one of those evenings that will stay stuck in my memory for a long time.  A finicky fish, an absolutely massive trico spinner fall, and finally scoring when I had decided to quit. …

Very nice. Thanks for the play by play. Fishing the spinner fall is one of the more challenging exercises in fishing the small fly. Nice to know that SOMEONE can have success at it, and with a 6wt to boot ! — Ken Fortenberry

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When is your float trip down the Grand? Dave LaCourse

I’m scheduled the weekend before the Canadian Thanksgiving, October 10th.  Scott is included and Barney Jones, co-owner of Grindstone Angling, will be our guide.  Knowing full well his reaction, I asked Barney if he will get us into fish.  He put his arm around me in a fatherly fashion and said, "Son, I can bring you to the fish, but *you* have to catch’em."  Must be a real guide, eh? Peter

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m going down to Silver Creek to fish the trico hatch this morning. Here’s the way it works there. (Repeating something I posted a few days ago.) When the spinner fall starts — which can be truly massive — pods of large fish start feeding together. They don’t rise to individual flies. They just stay on the surface, with their heads sweeping back and forth, gulping large numbers of flies. If you’re lucky or knowledgeable enough to be above one of these pods it gets really exciting. You have to present the fly downstream right into a fish’s mouth. They won’t budge for an individual fly. The fish are so gluttonous at this point that if you put down the pod with a clumsy take-up they’re back to feeding in just a few seconds. There are trico spinner patterns but I don’t use them because I can’t see them. I use the much more visible dun pattern, which seems to work fine. With so many flies the fish don’t inspect each one with their customary finickyness.

I wish they had been feeding this way; it would have made life simple. No these fish were rising as if they were targeting individuals. There could have been as much as a minute between rises and the fish were widely scattered.  Totally different behaviour from what you described.  I guess this is part of what makes this business so interesting. Peter

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A.P.Dryden schrieb in Nachricht … Okay, I’ll fess up, too. I suck at drinking The Famous Grouse. I’m self-taught, from books. Never had a drinking lesson. :-O -<=== (me, drinking straight from the bottle of life) — A.P. Dryden A Loyal Explorer of The Famous Grouse Share a Wee Dram and a Tall Tale at http://www.famousgrouse.com/explorers Considering my well known and widely praised lyrical laudations of your esteemed beverage, and following a whim, basically engendered by being referred to as a salon fixture, failed  poet and a dumb popcorn fuelled farting ox, which caused me to imbibe freely of the aforementioned excellent beverage, probably due to fear of instant withering, and as a form of preventive medication, I had occasion to wander into your hallowed halls and was shocked to discover a flagrant case of discrimination, as opposed to a fragrant case of whiskey. In order to alleviate the almost fatal shock resulting from this discovery of unquieting enormity, I was obliged to partake of a further half bottle in order to steady my shattered faith in humankind, and restore my constitution and strengthen my unwavering resolve to continue my explorations. How is it sir that only colonials are admitted to your illustrious ranks, by whose decree is one of the highest possible honours ever to be bestowed on a grateful and undeserving multitude only available to members of a formal penal colony ? That juveniles may not be admitted to the glorious ranks is clear, and requires no further enlightenment, but I sir am an Englishman ! I beg you to reconsider your decision, as otherwise I will be forced to send her most regal majesties official diapproval, a tanker load of freeze dried tea,  and an expeditionary force to convince you of our basically peaceful intentions. We ask, nay sir we demand ! that these unjust and unecessarily cruel discriminations cease forthwith, otherwise sir the consequences may be grave indeed, and might well otherwise result in many wantonly resorting to the uncontrolled use of port and brandy. Yours sincerely Michael A.B.Connor  Class of ROFF 99 ( failed ).

   Huh! (didn’t talk till 6, pointen worked jest fine)                                                                John Popp                                                           in Sanford Fl.

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Mike Medintz: <<—–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– While in non-compliance with local decency ordinances the world over, We ask, nay sir we demand ! that these unjust and unecessarily cruel discriminations cease forthwith, otherwise sir the consequences may be grave indeed, and might well otherwise result in many wantonly resorting to the uncontrolled use of port and brandy.

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Okay, I’ll fess up, too. I suck at drinking The Famous Grouse. I’m self-taught, from books. Never had a drinking lesson. :-O -<=== (me, drinking straight from the bottle of life)

A.P., that’s what we need to really get ROFF going, and further irritate those who are complaining about content – drinking lessons. Based on your vast experience, I think you should start with a post or two about techniques for attacking the famous grouse. Mark Faulkner

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A.P.Dryden schrieb in Nachricht … Okay, I’ll fess up, too. I suck at drinking The Famous Grouse. I’m self-taught, from books. Never had a drinking lesson. :-O -<=== (me, drinking straight from the bottle of life) — A.P. Dryden A Loyal Explorer of The Famous Grouse Share a Wee Dram and a Tall Tale at http://www.famousgrouse.com/explorers

Considering my well known and widely praised lyrical laudations of your esteemed beverage, and following a whim, basically engendered by being referred to as a salon fixture, failed  poet and a dumb popcorn fuelled farting ox, which caused me to imbibe freely of the aforementioned excellent beverage, probably due to fear of instant withering, and as a form of preventive medication, I had occasion to wander into your hallowed halls and was shocked to discover a flagrant case of discrimination, as opposed to a fragrant case of whiskey. In order to alleviate the almost fatal shock resulting from this discovery of unquieting enormity, I was obliged to partake of a further half bottle in order to steady my shattered faith in humankind, and restore my constitution and strengthen my unwavering resolve to continue my explorations. How is it sir that only colonials are admitted to your illustrious ranks, by whose decree is one of the highest possible honours ever to be bestowed on a grateful and undeserving multitude only available to members of a formal penal colony ? That juveniles may not be admitted to the glorious ranks is clear, and requires no further enlightenment, but I sir am an Englishman ! I beg you to reconsider your decision, as otherwise I will be forced to send her most regal majesties official diapproval, a tanker load of freeze dried tea,  and an expeditionary force to convince you of our basically peaceful intentions. We ask, nay sir we demand ! that these unjust and unecessarily cruel discriminations cease forthwith, otherwise sir the consequences may be grave indeed, and might well otherwise result in many wantonly resorting to the uncontrolled use of port and brandy. Yours sincerely Michael A.B.Connor  Class of ROFF 99 ( failed ).

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(Frogspritz) writes: Based on your vast experience, I think you should start with a post or two about techniques for attacking the famous grouse.

I’ll start. How to serve Famous Grouse. 1. Open Bottle 2. Get appropriate glass. 3. Pour Famous Grouse down the sink. 4. Pour into the glass an appropiate single malt scotch. 5. Enjoy! Wayne Knight Geneva IL                            

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A.P.Dryden schrieb in Nachricht … Okay, I’ll fess up, too. I suck at drinking The Famous Grouse. I’m self-taught, from books. Never had a drinking lesson. :-O -<=== (me, drinking straight from the bottle of life) — A.P. Dryden A Loyal Explorer of The Famous Grouse Share a Wee Dram and a Tall Tale at http://www.famousgrouse.com/explorers Considering my well known and widely praised lyrical laudations of your esteemed beverage, and following a whim, basically engendered by being referred to as a salon fixture, failed  poet and a dumb popcorn fuelled farting ox, which caused me to imbibe freely of the aforementioned excellent beverage, probably due to fear of instant withering, and as a form of preventive medication, I had occasion to wander into your hallowed halls Yours sincerely

(snip of hilarious stuff) Michael A.B.Connor  Class of ROFF 99 ( failed ).

        wonderfully done, michael!         damn near enough to turn you into an anglophile, isn’t it, taffy ol friend? wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I figure now is the time to fess up, before you all meet me in NC. Besides the fact that i’m the youngest buck in the group, I suck at flyfishing. I’m self taught, from books. Never had a casting lesson, tying lesson, or any other type of lesson. So you guys leave me alone when I start snagging your clothes and tying masturful blobs of dubbing! Tim Apple P.S. I am very proficient at drinking the Famouse Grouse though.

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I figure now is the time to fess up, before you all meet me in NC. Besides the fact that i’m the youngest buck in the group, I suck at flyfishing. I’m self taught, from books. Never had a casting lesson, tying lesson, or any other type of lesson. So you guys leave me alone when I start snagging your clothes and tying masturful blobs of dubbing! Tim Apple P.S. I am very proficient at drinking the Famouse Grouse though.

Tim, you actually believe we know how to fish? hell wayno’s gonna be cryin in his cabin most of the time mumbling "how did waldo sink that 30′ putt" between gulps of vodka. i’m gonna be runnin to the bank to deposit my winnings and george is gonna be screamin from his cabin "c’mon guys let me out" after we spike his door. some other nameless person will be tending to his animal husbandry. matt will be hungover, won’t be able to fish at all. tom will be playing with his loran equipment. mark will be chasing his southern dreams and wayne will be chasing other game. let’s see, that leaves big al and charlie…. imnsho, probaly damn good fishing pardners fer ya. apologies for any ruffled feathers and especially if i inadvertantly left someone out. –Wataugan "let the clave begin" Walt

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What the hell was that! Speak American, damn it! TWL         Big Al – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I figure now is the time to fess up, before you all meet me in NC. Besides the fact that i’m the youngest buck in the group, I suck at flyfishing. I’m self taught, from books. Never had a casting lesson, tying lesson, or any other type of lesson. So you guys leave me alone when I start snagging your clothes and tying masturful blobs of dubbing! Tim Apple P.S. I am very proficient at drinking the Famouse Grouse though. Tim, you actually believe we know how to fish? hell wayno’s gonna be cryin in his cabin most of the time mumbling "how did waldo sink that 30′ putt" between gulps of vodka. i’m gonna be runnin to the bank to deposit my winnings and george is gonna be screamin from his cabin "c’mon guys let me out" after we spike his door. some other nameless person will be tending to his animal husbandry. matt will be hungover, won’t be able to fish at all. tom will be playing with his loran equipment. mark will be chasing his southern dreams and wayne will be chasing other game. let’s see, that leaves big al and charlie…. imnsho, probaly damn good fishing pardners fer ya. apologies for any ruffled feathers and especially if i inadvertantly left someone out. –Wataugan "let the clave begin" Walt

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I figure now is the time to fess up, before you all meet me in NC. Besides the fact that i’m the youngest buck in the group, I suck at flyfishing. I’m self taught, from books. Never had a casting lesson, tying lesson, or any other type of lesson. So you guys leave me alone when I start snagging your clothes and tying masturful blobs of dubbing! Tim Apple P.S. I am very proficient at drinking the Famouse Grouse though.

*twitch!* ignore. *twitch, twitch* ignore I’m not biting! This monster is drifting down stream. the G fish —

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Are you talking about the Deleware river?

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Does anyone know what is the best hatch to use this time of year? I’m new to Fly Fishing and would appreciate some free advice. Thankyou — James A. Neild

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Check out the interactive hatch chart for the Delaware system and the Catskills at www.mayfly.com. Does anyone know what is the best hatch to use this time of year? I’m new to Fly Fishing and would appreciate some free advice. Thankyou — James A. Neild

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Checkout Lefty’s outstanding Tips and Techniques for Fly Fishing at: http://www.fred.net/downsouth/lefty.htm

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Checkout Lefty’s outstanding Tips and Techniques for Fly Fishing at: http://www.fred.net/downsouth.lefty.htm

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Does anybody have any information on fly fishing in the Linville Falls community area. I have been camping near there in the past and looked like a nice place to go. I have never been Fly fishing before, but would like to try since someone gave me some gear. Thanks for any info. Chris

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I forgot to put that is Linville Falls community in N.C.

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