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Not Bill McNeese, but Dave McNeese.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Adam, The clear intermediate slow sinking tropical lines are designed for fishing in the warm weather out of a boat. I would overline one size larger than your rod size so it will handle those larger flies better. I would use an SA/Mastery "Tarpon" monocore slow sinking clear WF10S on a #9 rod for your trip. I would also do the same thing with a WF10F Mastery "Tarpon" floater for poppers. Or you could put a WF11 on a #10 rod ? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

Hi Marilyn, Your response brought up one more question: My 9 wt is a Sage 3-pc saltwater RPLX (I think, it’s about 6 years old), and I am a reasonable caster, do you still recommend overlining the rod.  I’ve had my rods built by Bill McNeese (steelhead fisherman out of Seattle) and he has always told me to use the same wt line. Regards, Adam

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For that kind of fishing I have been using the intermediate tip lines. made by everybody now and I use Cortland.  Really helps to load the line and when fishing with big streamers is really a help, especially when blind casting all day.

What are the casting qualities of an intermediate tipped line?  Does it hinge?  Do they do well in warm water. Do I have to bring it all the way to the boat.  My concern here is that as I fish the shore, will I be able to pick the line up and get it back to the shore the way one can do it with a floating line (ie, will I be able to keep the distance from the boat to shore relatively constant)?  About how deep will it go, do they have the regular 1-2"/minute sink rates? Thanks, Adam

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Hi Adam, The clear intermediate slow sinking tropical lines are designed for fishing in the warm weather out of a boat. I would overline one size larger than your rod size so it will handle those larger flies better. I would use an SA/Mastery "Tarpon" monocore slow sinking clear WF10S on a #9 rod for your trip. I would also do the same thing with a WF10F Mastery "Tarpon" floater for poppers. Or you could put a WF11 on a #10 rod ? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Going to Amazon to fly fish for peacock bass.  It has been suggested to use an intermediate sinking monocore line.  I’ll be casting large, but hopefully not too wind resistant streamers (6-8", made from Kinky Fibre Deceiver type-no feathers and poppers (1/2 to 3/4" closed foam cell heads).  I’ve never used this line and before I get one, I’d like to know the characteristics (pluses and minuses, if you will) of this line when used in warm water and largish flies.  Thanks, Adam —

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Going to Amazon to fly fish for peacock bass.  It has been suggested to use an intermediate sinking monocore line.  I’ll be casting large, but hopefully not too wind resistant streamers (6-8", made from Kinky Fibre Deceiver type-no feathers and poppers (1/2 to 3/4" closed foam cell heads).  I’ve never used this line and before I get one, I’d like to know the characteristics (pluses and minuses, if you will) of this line when used in warm water and largish flies.  Thanks, Adam —

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For that kind of fishing I have been using the intermediate tip lines.   made by everybody now and I use Cortland.  Really helps to load the line and when fishing with big streamers is really a help, especially when blind casting all day. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Going to Amazon to fly fish for peacock bass.  It has been suggested to use an intermediate sinking monocore line.  I’ll be casting large, but hopefully not too wind resistant streamers (6-8", made from Kinky Fibre Deceiver type-no feathers and poppers (1/2 to 3/4" closed foam cell heads).  I’ve never used this line and before I get one, I’d like to know the characteristics (pluses and minuses, if you will) of this line when used in warm water and largish flies.  Thanks, Adam —

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John, that’s an inspiration to aspiring Grandads throughout ROFF. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Grandma and I had #1 and #2 grandsons this afternoon fishing Foothill Lake in Palo Alto.  #2 is two years old and, with Grandma, was tossing his Snoopy rod and reel with the practice casting plug everywhere, sometimes in the water <g!  #1 is 8 years old and ALWAYS catches more fish with Dad than with Grandpa <g!  #1 was tossing Powerbait, worms and marshmallows all over the lake with no luck but he was doing a good job.  Late in the day, the following occurred: He:  Look at that guy on the dock, Grandpa.  What is he fishing with? Me: A fly rod. He:  Isn’t that what you fish with? Me: Yes. He:  That looks like fun.  (Heart twinges) Me:  It is. He:  It looks hard. Me:  Well, it takes training.  Like bicycle riding or a skate board. He:  They’re easy, Grandpa. What’s he doing now? Me:  Stripping a fly imitating a minnow. He:  That looks like lots of fun (Heart Jumps). Me:  It is. He:  Would you show me how?  (BE STILL MY HEART) Me:  OK, whenever you want too. He:  Takes spin outfit, sits on rock and watches caster roll casting, double hauling and practicing long beautiful casts for good 5 minutes <WOW. She:  (Watching #1 watching fly caster) to me:  BE STILL MY HEART. Me:  OK Bud, it’s time to go. He:  Grandpa, will you teach me how to fly fish? HEART IN MY THROAT!!! Me:  Too choked up to say anything but SURE – Who’s Hungry? He:  Later he said:  "Mom Grandpa is going to show me how to fly fish!" She:  (Rolls eyes) Oh, he IS is he?  to me "How did you arrange that?" Me:  It’s in the genes <g!

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<snip A most delightful post, John. And a great lesson to one who pushed too hard to get my kids to embrace my sport.  Ah!!! But when the grandchildren come along. Patience, patience and patience. Perhaps.<G Thanks Kiyu

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You are indeed a lucky fellow.  Great post.  Looking forward to hearing how he progresses.  If only every 8 year old was as lucky …. Cheers and TLs. Natty

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Grandma and I had #1 and #2 grandsons this afternoon fishing Foothill Lake in Palo Alto.  #2 is two years old and, with Grandma, was tossing his Snoopy rod and reel with the practice casting plug everywhere, sometimes in the water <g!  #1 is 8 years old and ALWAYS catches more fish with Dad than with Grandpa <g!  #1 was tossing Powerbait, worms and marshmallows all over the lake with no luck but he was doing a good job.  Late in the day, the following occurred: He:  Look at that guy on the dock, Grandpa.  What is he fishing with? Me: A fly rod. He:  Isn’t that what you fish with? Me: Yes. He:  That looks like fun.  (Heart twinges) Me:  It is. He:  It looks hard. Me:  Well, it takes training.  Like bicycle riding or a skate board. He:  They’re easy, Grandpa. What’s he doing now? Me:  Stripping a fly imitating a minnow. He:  That looks like lots of fun (Heart Jumps). Me:  It is. He:  Would you show me how?  (BE STILL MY HEART) Me:  OK, whenever you want too. He:  Takes spin outfit, sits on rock and watches caster roll casting, double hauling and practicing long beautiful casts for good 5 minutes <WOW. She:  (Watching #1 watching fly caster) to me:  BE STILL MY HEART. Me:  OK Bud, it’s time to go. He:  Grandpa, will you teach me how to fly fish? HEART IN MY THROAT!!! Me:  Too choked up to say anything but SURE – Who’s Hungry? He:  Later he said:  "Mom Grandpa is going to show me how to fly fish!" She:  (Rolls eyes) Oh, he IS is he?  to me "How did you arrange that?" Me:  It’s in the genes <g!

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Thanks, that story ruled!  Perhaps you should start shopping for 6 ft fly rods <g Best of luck and congratulations, — Warren Findley

It might be easier for him to learn with an 8 foot rod. About fifteen years ago a friend and I started his eight year old son with my 8 foot 6 weight Cortland. He still uses that rod. I will look forward to meeting him at Flyfish 2002 next year. Big Dale

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<snipped story of Grandson Thanks, that story ruled!  Perhaps you should start shopping for 6 ft fly rods <g Best of luck and congratulations, — Warren Findley

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Maybe people from this area (Baltimore- Washington Corridor) could hook up for lunch, scope out some things together or just appreciate how plain stupid we probably look to one another.  Not that there’s really anything wrong with being ugly, I feel proud  that I am actually very good at practicing and exhibiting ugliness, it doesn’t take a lot of work ya know. Hell, if we were to hook up as a small clave of complete mullethead wearing, scudge head looking, biscuit head toting boneheads we just might be able to take over the place and buy some fine tackle.  I am sure the hucksters would gladly hook-up a collective group of biscuit head Roffians with good prices and great deals,  just to see us move away from their booth in a hurry. Having never visited the show before I have every intention of dragging this big ass unsightly looking numbnut over to the extravaganza in hope of meeting some other butt ugly Roffian brothers and see some way cool stuff and demos.  Who knows, even a non repugnant ugster like myself could grab some free FF lessons and/or instructions. Anybody interested at meeting one another at the show please post to the group or e-mail me, maybe someone who have been there before could indicate a good place to meet, at least for an introduction.  Keep in mind the uglier the better, attractive people need not apply. On the more serious side, if anybody is interest in car pooling from Columbia, MD, please give me a shout.  I’ll be glad to drive as long as my Jeep is out of the shop. Your One and Only Supreme Cheesehead. Tony Norton

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Tony;    Got a bunch of us meeting at the front desk at noon on Saturday. Just look for the naked guys wearing pink or red carnations swilling Glen Livet from the bottle (anti-freeze doncha know).             Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe people from this area (Baltimore- Washington Corridor) could hook up for lunch, scope out some things together or just appreciate how plain stupid we probably look to one another.  Not that there’s really anything wrong with being ugly, I feel proud  that I am actually very good at practicing and exhibiting ugliness, it doesn’t take a lot of work ya know. Hell, if we were to hook up as a small clave of complete mullethead wearing, scudge head looking, biscuit head toting boneheads we just might be able to take over the place and buy some fine tackle.  I am sure the hucksters would gladly hook-up a collective group of biscuit head Roffians with good prices and great deals,  just to see us move away from their booth in a hurry. Having never visited the show before I have every intention of dragging this big ass unsightly looking numbnut over to the extravaganza in hope of meeting some other butt ugly Roffian brothers and see some way cool stuff and demos.  Who knows, even a non repugnant ugster like myself could grab some free FF lessons and/or instructions. Anybody interested at meeting one another at the show please post to the group or e-mail me, maybe someone who have been there before could indicate a good place to meet, at least for an introduction.  Keep in mind the uglier the better, attractive people need not apply. On the more serious side, if anybody is interest in car pooling from Columbia, MD, please give me a shout.  I’ll be glad to drive as long as my Jeep is out of the shop. Your One and Only Supreme Cheesehead. Tony Norton

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Tony;    Got a bunch of us meeting at the front desk at noon on Saturday. Just look for the naked guys wearing pink or red carnations swilling Glen Livet from the bottle (anti-freeze doncha know).             Frank Reid

HEY FRANK!  I just figured out HOW to hold that carnation!!!! — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

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Tony;    Got a bunch of us meeting at the front desk at noon on Saturday. Just look for the naked guys wearing pink or red carnations swilling Glen Livet from the bottle (anti-freeze doncha know).             Frank Reid HEY FRANK!  I just figured out HOW to hold that carnation!!!! — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

ROFLMAO!  Somebody, anybody, have a video rolling when the carnation wielders arrive. If it’s drooping, does it mean it needs water? Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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ROFLMAO!  Somebody, anybody, have a video rolling when the carnation wielders arrive. If it’s drooping, does it mean it needs water? Peter

GAAAWWWWD PETER!! You want pictures of the STRANGEST things! — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

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So, Tony, after that last bit of visual cueing (god, I’ll need extensive therapy just to cleanse my brain, or a 4 pack of McAffrey’s), do you still want to meet with this bunch?           Frank Drink early, drink often. ROFLMAO!  Somebody, anybody, have a video rolling when the carnation wielders arrive. If it’s drooping, does it mean it needs water? Peter GAAAWWWWD PETER!! You want pictures of the STRANGEST things! — Wayne To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

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I’ll be there Saturday.  I’ll look for the ones wearing a "ROFF" sign around their neck about noon.  I’ll be the decrepit old coot wearing a non-fly fishing white baseball cap that has a small red, white and blue logo that says "owners day 2000" on the front.  If you don’t like what you see make believe that you never heard of ROFF Lou

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Pink carnations!  We all need pink carnations.  The wiff promised to get some at work so I’ll pass them out (before I pass out).             Frank I’ll be there Saturday.  I’ll look for the ones wearing a "ROFF" sign around their neck about noon.  I’ll be the decrepit old coot wearing a non- fly fishing white baseball cap that has a small red, white and blue logo that says "owners day 2000" on the front.  If you don’t like what you see make believe that you never heard of ROFF Lou

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"Frank Reid" wrote Pink carnations!  We all need pink carnations.

   And pick-up trucks!           Charlie, feeling a little out of luck.

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Maybe people from this area (Baltimore- Washington Corridor) could hook up for lunch, scope out some things together or just appreciate how plain stupid we probably look to one another.

SWMBO & I will be there Saturday (I’m still amazed she’s going to do it.) If I can’t find pink carnations, I’ll be wearing a ROFF hat (yeah, and shirt & pants & shoes for you wise guys).   Probably won’t make a whole day of it; but noon Sat. at the entrance table works for me.   Counting spouses, that’s what, seven? Joe F.

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Pink carnations!  We all need pink carnations.  The wiff promised to get some at work so I’ll pass them out (before I pass out).            Frank

I thought the title was A White Sport Coat and Pink Crustaceans. Parrot Head Big Dale

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Well, in Maryland, we all got crabs, so that would be a bit outre.  We should do crab samiches for lunch.      Frank I thought the title was A White Sport Coat and Pink Crustaceans. Parrot Head Big Dale

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Big Dale, Dianna and I were at one of his concerts last summer and had a blast.  Parrot Heads and fins everywhere!!! — Wayne wasting away in margaritaville To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I thought the title was A White Sport Coat and Pink Crustaceans. Parrot Head Big Dale

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I may be flying into Asheville, North Carolina and driving to Greeneville, Tennessee, so I would appreciate any suggestions for cold water flyfishing Close to these places. Thanks, Jim Barna

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I may be flying into Asheville, North Carolina and driving to Greeneville, Tennessee, so I would appreciate any suggestions for cold water flyfishing Close to these places. Thanks, Jim Barna

Jim, There is said to be 4000 miles (and I’m doing my darndest to fish every mile) of trout waters in NC…. it’s kinda like take your pick. Here’s a good informational link run by a fishin’ bud. http://www.wnctrout.com Tight lines, Walt — Walter G. Winter Ezflyfish.com:  http://www.ezflyfish.com Blue Ridge Book Gallery: http://www.crosswinds.net/~brbg/books/brbg-2.html

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Thanks Walt! Jim Barna

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I may be flying into Asheville, North Carolina and driving to Greeneville, Tennessee, so I would appreciate any suggestions for cold water flyfishing Close to these places. Thanks, Jim Barna Jim, There is said to be 4000 miles (and I’m doing my darndest to fish every mile) of trout waters in NC…. it’s kinda like take your pick. Here’s a good informational link run by a fishin’ bud. http://www.wnctrout.com Tight lines, Walt — Walter G. Winter Ezflyfish.com:  http://www.ezflyfish.com Blue Ridge Book Gallery: http://www.crosswinds.net/~brbg/books/brbg-2.html

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Big Dale: Take or get a 10 wt.  You will not be overgunned at all.  I was out with Gordon Churchill in November and those torpedoes will wear you out in a hurry.  I could not believe a 10 wt rod bent double – but there it was, and it survived, a testament to modern technology.  Worth the trip. Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am thinking about trying the False Albacore fishing next year and am wondering what kind of fly rod, reel and line would be most useful. Is there any advice out there? Since I am a Texan I find it is pretty easy to get someone to tell me where to go. Big Dale

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I am thinking about trying the False Albacore fishing next year and am wondering what kind of fly rod, reel and line would be most useful. Is there any advice out there? Since I am a Texan I find it is pretty easy to get someone to tell me where to go. Big Dale

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dale – gordon churchill on the trifly listserve in nc (i think you subscribe to it, don’t you?) fishes regularly for the "fat alberts"…he’s the guy to ask.  post your question on tri-fly and you’ll get several good responses. jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am thinking about trying the False Albacore fishing next year and am wondering what kind of fly rod, reel and line would be most useful. Is there any advice out there? Since I am a Texan I find it is pretty easy to get someone to tell me where to go. Big Dale

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Hey Dale, First off let me tell you that I happen to guide for fat alberts in NC. Having said that of course you realize that I would not mind at all if you were to come and fish with me when you visit us here next fall.   Let me also  tell you that I have what has been referred to as the best website devoted to flyfishing in North Carolina (for  the kind of fishing I do) that there is.  If you check it out you will find all the info you need.   Having said that let me also state that a ten weight rod with a fairly fast action combined with a decent quality reel (I find the Teton Tiogs to be a good piece of equipment) and an intermediate line, will cover just about all your bases.  If you fish with me of course you don’t even need to bring any equipment because I will have all that you need. Good luck on your equipment choices.  Hope you have fun when you come to fish for albert next fall.  Hope you decide to fish with me. Thanks.

I am thinking about trying the False Albacore fishing next year and am wondering what kind of fly rod, reel and line would be most useful. Is there any advice out there? Since I am a Texan I find it is pretty easy to get someone to tell me where to go. Big Dale — Flyfish NC                                                   Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com                                                                  

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Been tying flies for a couple of years.  Here in S.C. and also in G.A. fly tying hooks are about as hard to find as hens teeth.  I like to stand in front of a wall of hooks and look at them while scratching my head.  This is half the fun of buying hooks to me.  But these damn Mustad hooks are about all anyone carries.   Do these thing rust overnight?  Or am I doing something wrong? I open my fly box after a day fishing so they can air dry, sometimes soak my flies in Scotchgard (which I am convinced is useless), and generally try to assure they are dry before storing.  But rust they do… What the deal?? Patrick  

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But these damn Mustad hooks are about all anyone carries.   Do these thing rust overnight?  Or am I doing something wrong? I open my fly box after a day fishing so they can air dry, sometimes soak my flies in Scotchgard (which I am convinced is useless), and generally try to assure they are dry before storing.  But rust they do… What the deal??

Boyhowdy, I ain’t heard that one before. I’ve been tying for about 35 years – on Mustads mostly. They’ve  had their problems with quality control: sizing, hook-to- hook uniformity, sharpness, closed eyes, open eyes, temper, and other assorted defects, but I ain’t never had a problem with rust. Don’t know. Glad to be of help :^).

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You obviously are not using a stainless model. Try the 34007 model in your favorite size.

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Been tying flies for a couple of years.  Here in S.C. and also in G.A. fly tying hooks are about as hard to find as hens teeth.  I like to stand in front of a wall of hooks and look at them while scratching my head.  This is half the fun of buying hooks to me.  But these damn Mustad hooks are about all anyone carries. Do these thing rust overnight?  Or am I doing something wrong? I open my fly box after a day fishing so they can air dry, sometimes soak my flies in Scotchgard (which I am convinced is useless), and generally try to assure they are dry before storing.  But rust they do… What the deal?? Patrick

Haven’t had that problem with Mustad. Do you put them away wet or do you dry them out on your patch first? I have heard that if you get your box wet or put your flies back in the box wet that they will rust. Jon

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Patrick: You might try tucking one or two of those small dessicant packets in your fly box–the kind that come in some food packages or in boxes of electronic gear. Or consider buying other hook brands through catalogs.  Dick Talleur’s last book, <Talleur’s Basic Fly Tying, has a brief hook substition chart  in the appendix (Daiichi, Mustad, Orvis, Tiemco, Partridge, Eagle Claw, et al.) Also, the Tach-it box, availabe at most stores, has detachable magnetic backing that lets you remove all your flies and dry them on a warm or sunny surface. Works.

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Okay… Anyone know what kind of glue to use for a double bunny.  YES, I know there’s  a tying newsgroup. NO, I don’t care that I’m posting this here.

I use waterproof contact cement available at many hobby shops.   Seems to offer the best flexibility.         Jeff Lewis

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We use the spray stuff–a 3M product–777 or something like that, I forget.  And yes, it does stiffen it enough (in my experience) to reduce fouling to an acceptable level.  (of course, I find it acceptable to hook myself in the ass only once or twice a trip.) Dave

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I would assume (Danger Will Robinson… Danger!) that glued together there would be much less of a problem with the bunny strips tangling in the hook bend.  Anyone have any experience one way or the other?

Hi The bunny strips will still tangle but if you put a small loop of monofilament as a kind of tail on the back of your hook either under the glued together strips or sandwiched between the strips you’ll solve the tangle problem. Good Tying & … — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products On line catalog – tips & tricks at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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Hi-   Lash a small short strip of X ray film so that it extends a bit beyond the bend. Not a cure all but it does reduce the tangle problem to a manageable level.    Extend the X Ray film well beyond the eye of the hook and bend at a 45 degree angle. Now you have a Wriggle Bunny. Just kidding. Honest;-)    -Ralph I would assume (Danger Will Robinson… Danger!) that glued together there would be much less of a problem with the bunny strips tangling in the hook bend.  Anyone have any experience one way or the other?

California School of Flyfishing. Fishing conditions, hatch charts, product reviews, tips, techniques and more.  http://www.FLYLINE.com

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Okay… Anyone know what kind of glue to use for a double bunny.  YES, I know there’s  a tying newsgroup. NO, I don’t care that I’m posting this here.

Hi I use Zap A Gap with good success. I suppose a flexible 5 minute epoxy would work as well. — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products On line catalog – tips & tricks at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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Okay… Anyone know what kind of glue to use for a double bunny.  YES, I know there’s  a tying newsgroup. NO, I don’t care that I’m posting this here.

[Insert rebel yell here] Shall I change the header to "Let’s kill .tying", or do you want to ?  Just kidding John F…. Big Ol’ <{g… God I love this place… RE: this thread… While I have long watched from a distance the creations involving silicone, cyanocrylics and Martha Stuart’s Hot Glue, I have yet to use them…I do not even use head cement…I see no need whatsoever to glue down the stips on a double bunny.  I might throw some copper ribbing to tie ‘em down, but glue is yukky. YMWV. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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RE: this thread… While I have long watched from a distance the creations involving silicone, cyanocrylics and Martha Stuart’s Hot Glue, I have yet to use them…I do not even use head cement…I see no need whatsoever to glue down the stips on a double bunny.  I might throw some copper ribbing to tie ‘em down, but glue is yukky. YMWV.

I would assume (Danger Will Robinson… Danger!) that glued together there would be much less of a problem with the bunny strips tangling in the hook bend.  Anyone have any experience one way or the other?

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Okay… Anyone know what kind of glue to use for a double bunny.  YES, I know there’s  a tying newsgroup. NO, I don’t care that I’m posting this here.

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Okay… Anyone know what kind of glue to use for a double bunny.  YES, I know there’s  a tying newsgroup. NO, I don’t care that I’m posting this here.

Barge Cement. Ralph H "…      the sabbath rang slowly      in the pebbles of the holy streams!" Dylan Thomas, "Fern Hill"

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Aren’t they the ones that eat their own young?

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Not only will they eat their young they will also take a #28 Adams on 8X …. give it a try…. Thats how I get over cabin fever.  by the way make sure to use barbless hooks, guppies don’t seem to recover well from

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Well, I was down in Louisianna and stopped off on the side of the road at a creek.  Little minnows were swimming around on the surface.  I had some #14 hooks and some little pieces of worm.  The water was about 6 feet down from where my gf and I were standing.  We let our lines down and the minnows would grab the worm, not able to get the hook in their mouth.   They would hold onto it just enough that you could sling them out of the water.  We flicked them high enough that they went flying in the air and we would catch them in our hands.  We kept them in a bucket for some catfishing that night.  They did not seem to be harmed too much by their sudden flights into the air.  Guess its another way to catch fish.

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Plainly [we live] in a world which rebuffs those who make demands upon it but one which lavishes benevolence upon those who ask for nothing.  It is this paradox which leads me to suspect that the esthetic derivatives of fishing are inversely proportional to the complexity and refinement of the angler’s methodology.   -Harold Blaisdell, The Philosophical Fisherman

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I am a member of The Long Beach Casting Club in Long Beach,CA, chartered in 1926. We are a not-for-profit fly fishing club and members of the Western Casting Association and the American Casting Association. We are fortunate enough to have a clubhouse and casting pond facility at our disposal. We provide classes in beginning fly casting instruction, fly fishing techniques, rod building and fly tying. All classes are held on Tuesday evenings at 7:00 P.M. ALL CLASSES ARE FREE TO THE PUBLIC. Our monthly meetings are usually on the last Thursday of the month but can change according to the availabilty of the speaker. We have hosted speakers such as Lani Waller, Polly Rosborough and A.K. Best to name a few. Aside from the Monthly meetings and classes we are involved in target and distance casting with flys and plugs throughout the months May through February. We host club trips each month to destinations as close as Newport Bay and Bolsa Chica Beach, to places like the Babine River, the Green River and Yellowstone. We boast of a high number of FFF Certified Casting instructors, nationally recognized fly-tyers, past national casting champions and a solid core of knowledgable, friendly, giving anglers. Anyone interested in finding out more about The Long Beach Casting Club can contact me via E-mail. As a public service I will start posting current and upcoming events of the Long Beach Casting Club. Watch this space for "L.B.C.C. Events". Remember that ALL INSTRUCTION IS FREE. Guy Manning

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Attributed to me: "Great fishing beats average sex"

Hell, LOUSY fishing beats average sex! Of course, there’s always the quote that goes:  "A man’s gotta believe in something, I believe I’ll go fishing."

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?…

How about the Far Side cartoon with two guys in a boat on the lake with atomic mushroom clouds on the horizon. Guys looking at clouds with the quote "I’ll tell you what this means Norm… no size restrictions and screw the limits" Barry Welliver

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My current fav— "Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day.  Teach a man to fish and the damn fool will starve to  death before he comes in off the river!"  Author unknown Charley

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 Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?

. "I got a fly rod for my wife.  Not a bad trade huh?" . Timothy Raup Eagles Nest 1-401-353-3359

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My favorite quote by far comes from John Gerach’s book Dances With Trout: "If flyfishing is as good as sex, then I’m doing one of them wrong." For humor and entertaining reading about flyfishing, Gerach is very good.

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One of my favorites came from a friend I taught to bass bug last summer. "Flyfishing has to be the most elegant and expensive way to get skunked." JL 8-Wt Editor

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folk got some favourite quotes? All thoughts gratefully received. Might even be an occasion to persuade a few more of our folk to get on the net and chat.  

My father, an avid fly fisherman, says to my mother: "When one of us die, I’ll go fishing on Bornholm" Bornholm is a beautiful island with a lot of sea run salmon and trout. Another one, for which I don’t know the source goes something like this: "Those who say that fly fishing is better than sex, has no understanding of either" A very funny one. A danish tackle shop gets an order for a lot of vises for danes travelling to Saudi Arabia. A costumer stadning by says: "It must be for dry flies" Regards Martin Joergensen Copenhagen, Denmark

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am a member of The Long Beach Casting Club in Long Beach,CA, chartered in 1926. We are a not-for-profit fly fishing club and members of the Western Casting Association and the American Casting Association. We are fortunate enough to have a clubhouse and casting pond facility at our disposal. We provide classes in beginning fly casting instruction, fly fishing techniques, rod building and fly tying. All classes are held on Tuesday evenings at 7:00 P.M. ALL CLASSES ARE FREE TO THE PUBLIC. Our monthly meetings are usually on the last Thursday of the month but can change according to the availabilty of the speaker. We have hosted speakers such as Lani Waller, Polly Rosborough and A.K. Best to name a few. Aside from the Monthly meetings and classes we are involved in target and distance casting with flys and plugs throughout the months May through February. We host club trips each month to destinations as close as Newport Bay and Bolsa Chica Beach, to places like the Babine River, the Green River and Yellowstone. We boast of a high number of FFF Certified Casting instructors, nationally recognized fly-tyers, past national casting champions and a solid core of knowledgable, friendly, giving anglers. Anyone interested in finding out more about The Long Beach Casting Club can contact me via E-mail. As a public service I will start posting current and upcoming events of the Long Beach Casting Club. Watch this space for "L.B.C.C. Events". Remember that ALL INSTRUCTION IS FREE. Guy Manning

Hi, pals of L.B.C.C         this is a good news, although I am in Taiwan here far away from         U.S.A and I never try fly-fishing, but I wish I can join …. csleou

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I may be late on this thread, but there is the old chesnut:         "Flyfishing isn’t a matter of life or death, its much more important than that"

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Hi, pals of L.B.C.C    this is a good news, although I am in Taiwan here far away from    U.S.A and I never try fly-fishing, but I wish I can join …. csleou

Of course, when making sarcastic comments about wasting bandwidth, you can only claim moral high ground if you make an effort to trim the article you’re quoting down, rather than forwarding a second copy of the ENTIRE article to the entire world. Also, if you don’t care about fly fishing, you really shouldn’t be posting here, as this is the FLY FISHING news group. Have a nice day. — Cray Computer Corporation    http://www.craycos.com/~ferguson/ferguson.html Colorado Springs, CO                                     Solely my opinions

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<< <Of course, when making sarcastic comments about wasting bandwidth, you tirade deleted for brevity… Calm down, I think he meant it.

Well, if he did, then I apologize. It’s so easy to read the wrong thing out of an ASCII text message, especially across international boundaries. It was a friday, and I’ve seen oh so many of these "gee, I can’t come to timbuktu for your class, because I live in outer slobovia" messages, that I instantly conclude it’s sarcastic. Maybe I was wrong. — Cray Computer Corporation    http://www.craycos.com/~ferguson/ferguson.html Colorado Springs, CO                                     Solely my opinions

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?

Attributed to me: "Great fishing beats average sex" — John Lawitzke Systems Engineer TechSmith Corporation

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?

Attributed to me: "Great fishing beats average sex" How ’bout this one…."Fishing is like sex, even when it’s bad it’s great"

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Tim Dudley: The cartoon book you’re referring to is by JOHN TROY! His work is great! With his permission his work will feature prominently in this thing I’m doing. Good to hear from you. And also that the chuckles are shared across the geography. Best. — David A. Calderisi

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 Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?

"The way to a man’s heart is through his fly" — Gary L. Bertrand   Dept. of Chemistry University of Missouri-Rolla

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes? no more wabbits." E. Fudd

I really like the quote at the beginning of "A River Runs Through It".  I don’t have the exact quote but it was something about all Gods diciples being flyfishermen and John was a dry flyfishermen. "My wife said if I went fishing one more time she’d leave me  Gawd, I’m gonna miss her" — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA "Ask me about my vow of silence."

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OK Ok I just thought of one this is a Jason original…..   ( In your best Forest Gump voice and the Pecos Box is a local fishing area) " Life is like the Pecos Box ya never know what you going to catch….." jason — Jason J. Amaro               | Fight Racism!!!!!!!

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I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you folk got some favourite quotes?…

There’s a book of flyfishing cartoons by somebody who’s name escapes me, that has a great cartoon on the cover. It shows a lifeboat with five or six guys who look as if they’ve been in the boat for about a month – clothes are in rags, long hair, dirt, whiskers (no guide jokes here, please), in various states of starvation.  The boat is practically swamped, the waves are running about 12′ in gale force winds, and there’s a guy in the front fly fishing, with another guy hanging onto the fisherman by both legs, pleading with him:  "For God’s sake, man! Switch to wets!  They’ll never rise in seas like this!!" Tim

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: I’m doing a presentation for one of our local (well-established) : fly-fishing clubs next week. My topic is fly-fishing "humour". Any of you : folk got some favourite quotes? All thoughts gratefully received. Might : even be an occasion to persuade a few more of our folk to get on the net : and chat.   Pretty much anything Tim Walker says! Rick — T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.  

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Sage blanks? Actually, you could save yourself some grief. Why? Because Sage will locate the location of the spine with removable white markings. I’ve built three SAGE rods and they all came with the spine marked out. The most difficult part is the coating. Try and get the FLEXCOAT package with syringes, cups and mixtures. There are two kinds of FLEXCOAT: one coat (thick) and several coats (thin). I’ve used the one coat and it works ok but for a more consistent finish, I would try the several coat version. Getting a slow rpm motor to turn the rod while applying the FLEXCOAT would help a great deal. If you can’t borrow one from the local flyshop, any BBQ motor will suffice. Not to worry, you’ll make a great rod! p.s. there’s a flyfishing digest on the net you could join.

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I’ve used the one coat Flexcoat building many rods and I like it a lot.  In order to make it a little more workable in  a large finish area, I dilute the finish mix with a small amount of Acetone.  It is very quick to evaporate and leaves me with extra working time in laying a great finish coat on all types of rods. The only pitfall is to make sure that you don’t use too much acetone or your flexcoat will never set up correctly. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sage blanks? Actually, you could save yourself some grief. Why? Because Sage will locate the location of the spine with removable white markings. I’ve built three SAGE rods and they all came with the spine marked out. The most difficult part is the coating. Try and get the FLEXCOAT package with syringes, cups and mixtures. There are two kinds of FLEXCOAT: one coat (thick) and several coats (thin). I’ve used the one coat and it works ok but for a more consistent finish, I would try the several coat version. Getting a slow rpm motor to turn the rod while applying the FLEXCOAT would help a great deal. If you can’t borrow one from the local flyshop, any BBQ motor will suffice. Not to worry, you’ll make a great rod! p.s. there’s a flyfishing digest on the net you could join.

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