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Not wishing to be a spoilsport or anything, and no offence to Sandy, but she is not the only lady posting. Cyli keeps getting forgotten it seems. She posts regularly.

I didn’t know I had an angling sister on this ng!  Cool!  Thanks for saying so, Mike. Sandy

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the *one* fine *lady*–quite serious–that graces this NG!

Now, Opie, you don’t want to leave Sandy out, do you? — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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My most sincere apologies!  I had no idea?  I never considered?  Oh hell, before I get into any deeper shit.  Sorry, Cyli. Cyberspace can be so….um…damn….confusin’ sometimes! Actually, the waters have been nice and cool of late. Opie –the quite embarrassed–

‘Sokay.  I took it in good humour.  And responded in a way I hope is also taken as good humour. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Not wishing to be a spoilsport or anything, and no offence to Sandy, but she is not the only lady posting. Cyli keeps getting forgotten it seems. She posts regularly. I didn’t know I had an angling sister on this ng!  Cool!  Thanks for saying so, Mike. Sandy

My alias doesn’t seem to lend itself to thoughts of femaleness. Though the vixen part my sig file would be a clue to those who know something about wildlife. If my sig file still shows up. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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My alias doesn’t seem to lend itself to thoughts of femaleness. Though the vixen part my sig file would be a clue to those who know something about wildlife. If my sig file still shows up. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless

Sorry cyli, or vixen??  Guess it’s just because I don’t know what the rbc: stands for, so I wasn’t clear on what the word vixen was referring to.  And that, followed by Fairly harmless.  What would you have us call you? BTW — I checked out your link, and am very impressed by the emotional impact of your artwork!  Are those all pastels?  Are you still painting nowadays? Sandy

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My alias doesn’t seem to lend itself to thoughts of femaleness. Though the vixen part my sig file would be a clue to those who know something about wildlife. If my sig file still shows up. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless Sorry cyli, or vixen??  Guess it’s just because I don’t know what the rbc: stands for, so I wasn’t clear on what the word vixen was referring to.  And that, followed by Fairly harmless.  What would you have us call you? BTW — I checked out your link, and am very impressed by the emotional impact of your artwork!  Are those all pastels?  Are you still painting nowadays? Sandy

That’s impressive stuff – some of it reminds me of photos of Jupiter’s Red Spot – the word ‘fluid’ just doesn’t do it justice.  BTW, up here, rbc stands for Royal Bank of Canada – somehow, I don’t think that’s what you had intended.  <G (Soon to be coming to a bank near you.) Someone with an artistic mind would see fishing differently than would one (like me) who goes through life with a cold blooded, linear, analytical approach.  You should share your insights sometime – don’t be worried about your newbie fly fishing status – we were all there at some point in our lives.  A unique viewpoint would be very refreshing. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I’m afraid that I was also the victim of ignorance in this case.  I figured that rbc:  vixen was some sort of computer code, known only to those adept in such fields.  I am glad to know, now, that there are *at least* two fine ladies that frequent ROFF! Op

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My alias doesn’t seem to lend itself to thoughts of femaleness. Though the vixen part my sig file would be a clue to those who know something about wildlife. If my sig file still shows up. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless Sorry cyli, or vixen??  Guess it’s just because I don’t know what the rbc: stands for, so I wasn’t clear on what the word vixen was referring to. And that, followed by Fairly harmless.  What would you have us call you? BTW — I checked out your link, and am very impressed by the emotional impact of your artwork!  Are those all pastels?  Are you still painting nowadays? Sandy

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My alias doesn’t seem to lend itself to thoughts of femaleness. Though the vixen part my sig file would be a clue to those who know something about wildlife. If my sig file still shows up. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless Sorry cyli, or vixen??  Guess it’s just because I don’t know what the rbc: stands for, so I wasn’t clear on what the word vixen was referring to.  And that, followed by Fairly harmless.  What would you have us call you? BTW — I checked out your link, and am very impressed by the emotional impact of your artwork!  Are those all pastels?  Are you still painting nowadays?

Oh, it’s a rec.backcounty joke.  Many have animal callings over there and one day the net.ranger challenged me to name my animal.  I was feeling cute, fleet, and snappish.  The rbc stands for recbackcountry. Cyli is just fine.  It’s pronounced ’silly.’  I found I was becoming way too serious.  It’s been one heck of a job training all the people I work with to use my alias (there’s another person with the same real life first name as mine working near me.).  Takes about a week of my not answering to my real name.  As half the people (including two of the bosses) knew me for years on local BBSes by Cyli and called me by it (especially as one of the bosses married a woman of the same first name).  It’s a very relaxed place, as long as we get the work done.  I do recognize vixen, but only in text, I’d not respond to it in person. Thanks for the compliments on my art.  It’s all done in binary, but with imitations of real artists tools.  Not  with programming or the kind of image stuff that Web artists and advertising for magazines use (not that there’s anything wrong with either.  But I don’t have the tools or the inclination for it.).  I used Painter II and Corel PhotoPaint 3  to do them.  Mostly I used the oil paint and water colour tools.  One of the advantages of binary is that you can use water colour over or under oil. And clean up and set up are as simple as one or two clicks.  Nonetheless, they still take the same number of hours to do that they would in ‘real’ art. I’ve not done much recently.  I have some that I really should finish (where I do use usual Web style tools) by putting frames around them and so forth and put up as another page.  But my job and something about my mother’s death (even though it was 3 years ago) put me into stop mode on creating.  I expect to get back to it within a couple more years. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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That’s impressive stuff – some of it reminds me of photos of Jupiter’s Red Spot – the word ‘fluid’ just doesn’t do it justice.  BTW, up here, rbc stands for Royal Bank of Canada – somehow, I don’t think that’s what you had intended.  <G (Soon to be coming to a bank near you.) Someone with an artistic mind would see fishing differently than would one (like me) who goes through life with a cold blooded, linear, analytical approach.  You should share your insights sometime – don’t be worried about your newbie fly fishing status – we were all there at some point in our lives.  A unique viewpoint would be very refreshing.

Thanks.  Fluid is pretty much what I aim for, as I sort of  paint emotions, which are always at least a little fluid.  No, not bank. Though I suspect I’d like to have a share of their vaults. I don’t know if I see fishing differently.  Maybe.  The beauty of a stringer of browns that I saw a year ago, lying on green weeds next to the stream may have stayed with me a bit longer than it would have with most.   Especially as they weren’t my browns.  I’m also pretty big on large trees that have been dead long enough for the bark to be gone.  I can sit on one and contemplate the far end of it very happily for some time.  Or sit on a stream bank and look at one that’s lying partly in and partly out of the stream.  They have interesting patterns and shapes and, like clouds, can form pictures in the mind. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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I’m afraid that I was also the victim of ignorance in this case.  I figured that rbc:  vixen was some sort of computer code, known only to those adept in such fields.  

As explained above, it almost sort of maybe is… I am glad to know, now, that there are *at least* two fine ladies that frequent ROFF! Op

Thank you sir.  And probably wise of you to assume there might be lurkers of female status.  Who knows what / who lurkers may be. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Thanks for the compliments on my art.  It’s all done in binary, but with imitations of real artists tools.

Outstanding!! I’ve not done much recently.  I have some that I really should finish (where I do use usual Web style tools) by putting frames around them and so forth and put up as another page.  But my job and something about my mother’s death (even though it was 3 years ago) put me into stop mode on creating.  I expect to get back to it within a couple more years.

Let us know when you update your site.  I’m anxious to see more.  :^) Sandy

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Brian don’t mind these freshmen!  One is from Montana and the other couldn’t find a stream in his own backyard. Are you a resident of NC?  If so, pick-up a Delorme’s map for NC.  I the front section you will find a list off NC trout streams with locations. If you hang out here long enough, you will inevitably end up fishin’ with myself or one of the many other ROFFians from NC, as long as you don’t insult the *one* fine *lady*–quite serious–that graces this NG!

Not wishing to be a spoilsport or anything, and no offence to Sandy, but she is not the only lady posting. Cyli keeps getting forgotten it seems. She posts regularly. If you are from outta state, let me know when you plan to visit and I will be happy to guide you to some fine steams in my area.  Free of charge of course!

That explains how you keep getting into hot water! TL MC

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Only on e-Bay! Op

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be happy to guide you to some fine steams in my area.  Free of charge of course! Do you sell bass bugs, too? <g — Charlie…

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My most sincere apologies!  I had no idea?  I never considered?  Oh hell, before I get into any deeper shit.  Sorry, Cyli. Cyberspace can be so….um…damn….confusin’ sometimes! Actually, the waters have been nice and cool of late. Opie –the quite embarrassed–

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Brian don’t mind these freshmen!  One is from Montana and the other couldn’t find a stream in his own backyard. Are you a resident of NC?  If so, pick-up a Delorme’s map for NC.  I the front section you will find a list off NC trout streams with locations. If you hang out here long enough, you will inevitably end up fishin’ with myself or one of the many other ROFFians from NC, as long as you don’t insult the *one* fine *lady*–quite serious–that graces this NG! Not wishing to be a spoilsport or anything, and no offence to Sandy, but she is not the only lady posting. Cyli keeps getting forgotten it seems. She posts regularly. If you are from outta state, let me know when you plan to visit and I will be happy to guide you to some fine steams in my area.  Free of charge of course! That explains how you keep getting into hot water! TL MC

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I will be happy to guide you to some fine steams in my area.  Free of charge of course!

Do you sell bass bugs, too? <g — Charlie…

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http//:www.wnctrout.com for good nc info…. –waldo If there are any NC resident, I would like to hear there suggestions for Good NC Streams. Thanks…

– Wilson Creek Outfitters, Ezflyfish.com, Inc. 115 East Union Street; Morganton, NC 28655 http://www.ezflyfish.com

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man, North Carolina has been fished out for years….. john

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If there are any NC resident, I would like to hear there suggestions for Good NC Streams. Thanks…

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  If there are any NC resident, I would like to hear there suggestions for Good NC Streams. Thanks…

First, tell us all about your home waters.  Where are the best places to fish, what flies do we use, when are the best hatches, when is the best time of year to fish, etc so we can add it to our dossier of places to fish so that we may have the info for future querries. Thanks in advance. Warren (Hopefully one of them NC boys will take pity on you and drop you a line via email with some suggestions.  If not, do a deja.com search under NC and get all the info they let slip:-)

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If there are any NC resident, I would like to hear there suggestions for Good NC Streams. Thanks…

We try to keep these smaller streams out of the headlines.  Drop me an email and I’ll tell you where I don’t catch any fish – at least you can cross those off your list

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Brian don’t mind these freshmen!  One is from Montana and the other couldn’t find a stream in his own backyard. Are you a resident of NC?  If so, pick-up a Delorme’s map for NC.  I the front section you will find a list off NC trout streams with locations.  If you hang out here long enough, you will inevitably end up fishin’ with myself or one of the many other ROFFians from NC, as long as you don’t insult the *one* fine *lady*–quite serious–that graces this NG! If you are from outta state, let me know when you plan to visit and I will be happy to guide you to some fine steams in my area.  Free of charge of course! Opie

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Will be in Negril area in late October. Any suggestions for fly opportunities appreciated. Please email. Thanks- Kent

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Enough Jamaica bashing!!.

Don’t like Jamaica, oh no. I love her. Capt. Gary S. Colecchio West Palm Beach "The only people who have any business fishing are  young boys and married men. Everyone else should be  out getting laid."  …I said that.

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Enough Jamaica bashing!!. Don’t like Jamaica, oh no. I love her.

It was a present for my muther…

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Capt. Gary S. Colecchio West Palm Beach "The only people who have any business fishing are  young boys and married men. Everyone else should be  out getting laid."  …I said that.

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At Hedonism II you woun’t have to worry about your fly. Or wearing pants. Capt. Gary S. Colecchio West Palm Beach "The only people who have any business fishing are  young boys and married men. Everyone else should be  out getting laid."  …I said that.

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Enough Jamaica bashing!!. It is an undiscovered resource from the tarpon in Montego Bay to the flats that are not endless sand bottom flats, but the kind that run out from the shore to the reef that rings lots of the island and is immediately accesible from the road that runs along the coast from Ocho Rios to Negril. It helps tremendously to get a local driver who can properly interpret for an American what is happening. Then you’ll actually stop at a jerk stand or roadside bar and step from the road into the water and cast for tarpon etc. while the locals sipping red stripes wonder what the hell you’re doing. I assume that your flying into Montego bay and then busing to Negril. The road is in bad shape, and so the relatively few miles can take a couple of hours. Pay attention to the water out the right side of the bus and you’ll see where to fish. Hey, if you don’t take your rod your not going to fish. I. Clair

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Yes, don’t fly to Jamaica!  Lamest island in that neck of the world. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Will be in Negril area in late October. Any suggestions for fly opportunities appreciated. Please email.

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…got a little Rasta buddy down ther who’ll put you right on trans love – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Will be in Negril area in late October. Any suggestions for fly opportunities appreciated. Please email. Thanks- Kent

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Will be in Negril area in late October. Any suggestions for fly opportunities appreciated. Please email.

Was in Jamaica for my honeymoon, so fishing was not on my list of activities that week.   However, I’d recommend a Rastafarian named "Lucky" down near Ocho Rios for samples of the local vegetation.   In Negril, I’d go to one of the "clothing optional" resorts, then you won’t have to worry about your fly.  :-) Joe F.

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<<I’m about to start building my second rod, but I seem to have forgotten just about everything I learned last time.. The cork handle (complete set) is a bit loose, already got the squeaks. (Damn thing I used for expanding the hole in the cork, wasn’t 100% aligned with the tapering of the blank, so the butt section of the cork is too big) Is (a little bit of) masking tape under the cork handle ok? I think I applied some tape at the first rod, but that St.Criox piece of  #*!#/&^# broke before any side effects was given reasonable time to appear.. I do however remember that mask tape was not a great idea for assembling the parts of the pacific bay reel handle.. Mask tape did work well for mounting the reel handle on the blank, though. — Christian Figenschou – Christian, using masking tape really isn’t a great idea when you build rods. The reason is that over a short period of time, that tape compresses down flat and you still end up with a loose handle or reel seat.  This in turn can put stress on the blank and cause it to weaken eventually resulting in a broken blank.   I have only built a few rods but my mentor (who was featured on the cover of Fly Fishing Magazine for his rod work) taught me to never use masking tape.  If the handle gets botched then invest in another $16 for a new cork handle and redrill it. Mike

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I’m about to start building my second rod, but I seem to have forgotten just about everything I learned last time.. The cork handle (complete set) is a bit loose, already got the squeaks. (Damn thing I used for expanding the hole in the cork, wasn’t 100% aligned with the tapering of the blank, so the butt section of the cork is too big) Is (a little bit of) masking tape under the cork handle ok?

Since this is only going to be a thin layer of masking tape I don’t think you’ll run into any problem. I would apply the tape really tightly if you have to use more than one winding or layer and I would saturate it really well with the glue you plan to use.I’ve said it before on this group: The company U 40 makes a superb 2 component glue for rod building (handle and grip) which forms a paste, that does not flow like your typical 2 component epoxy glue. If you used that you could apply a thick layer of this paste and wouldn’t even need to build up the difference with masking tape. Hope this helps, Tom.

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using tape is fine as long as you are using a paste glue not a liquid glue like flex coat just make sure you find all the gaps dm

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using tape is fine as long as you are using a paste glue not a liquid glue like flex coat just make sure you find all the gaps dm

I’ve used masking tape under the reel seats on about a half dozen rods, both fly and spinning, and also under a couple of the handles with no problem….yet. I use a 2-part epoxy that we use for setting fasteners etc in the construction industry. It’s the kind that’s in the 2-compartment dispesnsing tube and mixes in the tip. Very nice stuff. There’s many of you who have made many many more rods than me but, I’d tend to say the adhesive you use is a lot more important than if you put tape under the handle/seat. And, like dm says, make sure you fill all the gaps! pete

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m about to start building my second rod, but I seem to have forgotten just about everything I learned last time.. The cork handle (complete set) is a bit loose, already got the squeaks. (Damn thing I used for expanding the hole in the cork, wasn’t 100% aligned with the tapering of the blank, so the butt section of the cork is too big) Is (a little bit of) masking tape under the cork handle ok? I think I applied some tape at the first rod, but that St.Criox piece of  #*!#/&^# broke before any side effects was given reasonable time to appear.. I do however remember that mask tape was not a great idea for assembling the parts of the pacific bay reel handle.. Mask tape did work well for mounting the reel handle on the blank, though. — Christian Figenschou – http://home.sol.no/figen/

I’ve only built two rods, and I was tought to use masking tape to build up the blank under the handle. The 1/2 inch tape is applied in segments with about 1/2 inch spacing between segments. A liberal application of Rod Builders Epoxy results in a tight fitting handle that won’t loosen up. Regards, Chuck

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I regularly use masking tape under cork handles when I am overly zealous about the filing. I don’t space the tape however, I just build the entire blank area up that is too narrow for the handle. I really saturate it with epoxy. I’ve found that if you use anything besides the five minute epoxy, that it penetrates the tape sufficiently to make it waterproof and the epoxy seems to actually bond to the rod shaft. I take no particular care when fishing with my rods and the handles get immersed frequently with no problems. — Hope you always have the time to go fishing! Jerry in Lodi Al & Jerry’s Excellent Adventures http://www.softcom.net/users/dorado Al & Jerry’s Fishing Forum http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/m/19629

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I’ve built 6 rods using very thick masking tape under the reel seat. Like others say, keep the tape spaced and use an epoxy liberally. You will not have any problems other then keeping the epoxy on the inside. Have rubbing alcohle or mineral oil handy for immediate cleanup. Don’t want to leave any on the reel seat to screw up the threads of the lock down. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m about to start building my second rod, but I seem to have forgotten just about everything I learned last time.. The cork handle (complete set) is a bit loose, already got the squeaks. (Damn thing I used for expanding the hole in the cork, wasn’t 100% aligned with the tapering of the blank, so the butt section of the cork is too big) Is (a little bit of) masking tape under the cork handle ok? Since this is only going to be a thin layer of masking tape I don’t think you’ll run into any problem. I would apply the tape really tightly if you have to use more than one winding or layer and I would saturate it really well with the glue you plan to use.I’ve said it before on this group: The company U 40 makes a superb 2 component glue for rod building (handle and grip) which forms a paste, that does not flow like your typical 2 component epoxy glue. If you used that you could apply a thick layer of this paste and wouldn’t even need to build up the difference with masking tape. Hope this helps, Tom.

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To keep that epoxy off the reel seat and out of the threads, just wrap masking tape around the outside of the reel seat too.  Then, before the epoxy dries, peel the masking tape off, along with any epoxy that squeezed out. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve built 6 rods using very thick masking tape under the reel seat. Like others say, keep the tape spaced and use an epoxy liberally. You will not have any problems other then keeping the epoxy on the inside. Have rubbing alcohle or mineral oil handy for immediate cleanup. Don’t want to leave any on the reel seat to screw up the threads of the lock down. I’m about to start building my second rod, but I seem to have forgotten just about everything I learned last time.. The cork handle (complete set) is a bit loose, already got the squeaks. (Damn thing I used for expanding the hole in the cork, wasn’t 100% aligned with the tapering of the blank, so the butt section of the cork is too big) Is (a little bit of) masking tape under the cork handle ok? Since this is only going to be a thin layer of masking tape I don’t think you’ll run into any problem. I would apply the tape really tightly if you have to use more than one winding or layer and I would saturate it really well with the glue you plan to use.I’ve said it before on this group: The company U 40 makes a superb 2 component glue for rod building (handle and grip) which forms a paste, that does not flow like your typical 2 component epoxy glue. If you used that you could apply a thick layer of this paste and wouldn’t even need to build up the difference with masking tape. Hope this helps, Tom.

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I’m about to start building my second rod, but I seem to have forgotten just about everything I learned last time.. The cork handle (complete set) is a bit loose, already got the squeaks. (Damn thing I used for expanding the hole in the cork, wasn’t 100% aligned with the tapering of the blank, so the butt section of the cork is too big) Is (a little bit of) masking tape under the cork handle ok? I think I applied some tape at the first rod, but that St.Criox piece of  #*!#/&^# broke before any side effects was given reasonable time to appear.. I do however remember that mask tape was not a great idea for assembling the parts of the pacific bay reel handle.. Mask tape did work well for mounting the reel handle on the blank, though. — Christian Figenschou – http://home.sol.no/figen/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here is my two cents. For walleye find structure such as rockpikes, reefs, humps and points. Wave action and boat traffic can produce currents and waves that seem to help the action. For example a shallow hump in deep water is a great spot when the water is moving right, but on a calm day it can be slow. Slip bobber and leechs are deadly. You can set your leech at a fixed depth and drift it over structure. Windblown points can be good spots. You probably might want to postion your boat  in a fixed spot somewhere off of the structure and cast to the structure. Ultralight equipment. For pike I like submergered weeds in shallower areas with access to deep cold water. Water temperature is important, the cooler the better. leechs work but I like Small Mepps like #3 or 4 in a simple configuration (silver, gold, white.. nothing fancy). Have had luck with sluggos and bigger rapalas. Of course a live sucker on a quick strike works but it is a passive approach and release of the fish isn’t always possible. Use wire leader. For smallies… current. I’m happy to get any advice on smallies. I want a big one, I’ve caught a 4 pounder but I really want to catch (and release) a nice smallie. Leechs work.  In fact you can catch anything on a leech and slip bobber. Alot depends on the time of year, the type of boat you have and your equipment. Good luck. I would be interested in getting any reports on the fishing in the BWCA. Thanks.

In the BWCA, the Boundary Waters CANOE Area, the type of boat will likely be a canoe.  And live bait, especially minnows, will be hard to come by.  Jigs and twister tails and various forms of Rapalas seem to be pretty reliable.  Mepps spinners will work also. Fishing has been pretty slow from what I heard due to very cold water.   But it has been warmer weather the past few days so it may be improving. Del Cecchi Rochester, MN

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I suppose certain areas of BWCA are for canoe access. There are also areas where access is available via 25 hp boats. These craft are used by support people who take people who CANOE. They are also used by people who are allowed to FISH in certain restricted areas under increasingly ridiculous restrictions. Of course people get emotional over these issues. I take the perspective of tolerance for both sides. Otherwise, maybe we’ll let Disney run  the BWCA instead of Greenpeace.

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Leeches for small mouth! Silver kastmaster spoons for lake trout, if your going to be near any! Vertical jigging for ‘em! Try Argo Lake for lake trout. I envy you going up there. Knock ‘em dead!

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In the BWCA, the Boundary Waters CANOE Area, the type of boat will likely be a canoe.  And live bait, especially minnows, will be hard to come by.  Jigs and twister tails and various forms of Rapalas seem to be pretty reliable.  Mepps spinners will work also. Fishing has been pretty slow from what I heard due to very cold water. But it has been warmer weather the past few days so it may be improving. Del Cecchi Rochester, MN

Del, In the Boundary Waters, the type of boat for fishing will be a 14′ or 16′ boat with up to a 25hp motor, OR a square stern canoe with a 5hp motor. Minnows are readily used, along with leeches and nightcrawlers, as the preferred bait.  At this time of year, fishing is mostly on the larger motorized lakes of the Boundary Waters.  There are 18 such lakes that allow motors.  Canoeists that have a problem with this should stay on the paddle-only lakes.

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Snipped my previous post Del, In the Boundary Waters, the type of boat for fishing will be a 14′ or 16′ boat with up to a 25hp motor, OR a square stern canoe with a 5hp motor. Minnows are readily used, along with leeches and nightcrawlers, as the preferred bait.  At this time of year, fishing is mostly on the larger motorized lakes of the Boundary Waters.  There are 18 such lakes that allow motors.  Canoeists that have a problem with this should stay on the paddle-only lakes.

Most of the American side of Lac Lacroix, all of Crooked, and much of Basswood is closed to motors.  Of course there are those that disregard the restriction, especially on Basswood.  Fortunately there are not too many scofflaws around.  Continuing on to the east, Knife has no motors and the border continues with no motors until Sag and Seagull.  In the southern part of the bwca, motors are allowed on Trout lake.   I don’t have any problem with people using motors in the motor zone.  I thought closing the portages was a sneaky backhanded way to reneg on a deal.  I have a boat an motor.  I was merely pointing out that to fish most of the bwca one must use a canoe without a motor, and that transporting minnows is difficult, especially in warm weather.  Leeches are a little easier. A small cooler with nightcrawlers will hold up for a few days.   Looks from your email address that you might be from North Eastern Minnesota.  I know that it has been a long and emotional winter trying to fend off the "Friends of the Boundary Waters" and their lawyers in the Wellstonian mediation hearings.  Hey most of you guys voted for him as I recall.  But don’t attack supporters or neutral parties.  Try not to be so paranoid.  Although just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean someone isn’t out to get you.   I guess I stand by my advice, but will note that there are relatively small portions of the BWCA where one is allowed to use motors butyou still must portage using human power.  Some portages have humans for rent, others you are on your own to attach wheels and go.  Wheels are only allowed in the motorized zones.  The dogs on Trout lake aren’t there this year.   Del Cecchi Rochester, MN

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I will be fishing in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness this coming June.  I hope to catch smallmouth bass, walleye, and northern pike, in that order.  I would welcome any advice on what lures and jigs to use, presentation techniques, structure to look for, etc.   Thanks in advance, Todd —

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Here is my two cents. For walleye find structure such as rockpikes, reefs, humps and points. Wave action and boat traffic can produce currents and waves that seem to help the action. For example a shallow hump in deep water is a great spot when the water is moving right, but on a calm day it can be slow. Slip bobber and leechs are deadly. You can set your leech at a fixed depth and drift it over structure. Windblown points can be good spots. You probably might want to postion your boat  in a fixed spot somewhere off of the structure and cast to the structure. Ultralight equipment. For pike I like submergered weeds in shallower areas with access to deep cold water. Water temperature is important, the cooler the better. leechs work but I like Small Mepps like #3 or 4 in a simple configuration (silver, gold, white.. nothing fancy). Have had luck with sluggos and bigger rapalas. Of course a live sucker on a quick strike works but it is a passive approach and release of the fish isn’t always possible. Use wire leader. For smallies… current. I’m happy to get any advice on smallies. I want a big one, I’ve caught a 4 pounder but I really want to catch (and release) a nice smallie. Leechs work.  In fact you can catch anything on a leech and slip bobber. Alot depends on the time of year, the type of boat you have and your equipment. Good luck. I would be interested in getting any reports on the fishing in the BWCA. Thanks.

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Dear Todd, I have spent many years fishing in the Boundry  Water’s area and the Quitico Area and have found it to be exceptional fishing!!  One thing I suggest is a new product specifically designed for quick CATCH-MEASURE-RELEASE.  It is called the Big Fish Ruler and it is manufactured by Big Bass Inc.  I am sending you their web page.  Other baits and accessories will be Gold # 7&9 Rapalas(floating), slip bobber and 1/8 oz leadheads with ribbon leaches, black fly dope and other insect repellent that is water proof.  Skin so soft is not strong enough for a heavy fly infestation.  Remember to take along a water proof camera that can be thrown around and not damaged.  The one I suggest in a Kodak one time water proof camera.  It has 24 pictures and when you are finished you just drop off the camera with the film still inside.  Good fishing and get a couple of rulers.  You will need them!!  The fish are huge!!!

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Hey guys, motor or no motor the fishing is fine in eastern BWCA.  Just returned from a week near Gabbro/Bald Eagle and weather was warm and canoe worked just great for catching northerns, perch and walleye on rapalas and spinners mostly.  You just have to find the schools and drop in the line. So enjoy what you get, big or small.  Those waters still make ‘em tastier.

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Want the finest flyfishing experience of your life?  Little Grizzly Creek Ranch, Walden, Colorado, features outstanding new accommodations, gourmet food, fine wine, hosted bar, 7 miles of private streams at the headwaters of the North Platte, five varieties of trout, guides and instruction, all for one price.  Check out our home page at: brochure.  Reservations are being accepted for July, August and September or 1997.

and when you’re done over there, come on over and we’ll murder some stockers and rip the tops off some homebrews. TimW Never a fee to my ‘clients’

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        My Fly Fishing Club,  The Kisatchie Fly Fishers,  is considering affiliating with the Federation of Fly Fishers.  I was appointed to find out what is required and how much it costs.  I need some information on who to call and talk to or who write to.         Our club is only a year old and in this part of Louisiana, Alexandria,  dead in the middle of the State,  fly fishing is not the traditional favorite that it is in many other parts of the country. I would appreciate any advice anyone in the group has to offer concerning affiliation.         Thanks in advance                 Tom

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Hi Tom, I’m glad to see you are planning on affliating with the Federation of Fly Fishers.  They are a good group.  For information on affiliation, etc. call the National Office at 1-800-618-0808. Good Luck Al Beatty (former FFF President) BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT

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   My Fly Fishing Club,  The Kisatchie Fly Fishers,  is considering affiliating with the Federation of Fly Fishers.

The FFF is a good organization to join to help support your fly fishing fix. They have all kinds of publications and ideas to help build membership in your club, hence their club. It costs $25 for a club to join for up to 25 members. Any members more than $25 are an extra $1 per member.

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Looking for info on fishing Yosemite rivers. Planning a Spring ‘96 trip with the family.   Thanks, Russ.

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If you’re backpacking, try out the Tuolumne below Glen Aulin, anywhere along it down to Hetch Hetchy. It’s a serious hike, be prepared.  You can walk in to the falls at Glen Aulin, and fishing the pool at the bottom is fun. You can backpack into some great lakes, like Benson or Smedberg.  While fishing in the back country can be good, fishing off the trail (even a mile) can be terrific.  It’s the crowds, man, you got to get away from the hordes of people who descend upon Yosemite.

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I am new to fly fishing and would like to acquire some good quality equipment.  However, I am unable to mortgage the house for new gear.  I am interested in a 8 1/2′ to 9′ rod, 5-6 wt (Sage, Loomis, ect quality) and a reel (Abel, Ross, ect).  Please let me know of any  used gear that you would like to sell or any advice which you would like to pass along. I guarantee that the gear  will continue to see years of enjoyment!

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I am new to fly fishing and would like to acquire some good quality equipment.  However, I am unable to mortgage the house for new gear.  I am interested in a 8 1/2′ to 9′ rod, 5-6 wt (Sage, Loomis, ect quality) and a reel (Abel, Ross, ect).  Please let me know of any  used gear that you would like to sell or any advice which you would like to pass along.

You could save a small bundle by buying an SA System II or an Orvis Battenkill reel.  They are both very pleasant to use, and blessed with smooth, powerful drags.  You will not wear them out, and they can be purchased new for less than the price of a used Abel.   From what I can gather, there is something of a consensus on the net; given a limited budget you are better off investing the lion’s share of your money in your rod rather than in your reel. — Keep your stick on the ice.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not an expert on Redfish, but I have fished for them with flies in  Tampa Bay, and I have a good friend who even catches them there that way. The fundamental secret is sinking line.  Redfish are downlooking feeders. They like shrimp, shrimp dive for the bottom when they see predators.  If  you can make a shrimp imitation head for the bottom on the retrieve, you   should have some success.  I understand  that green and white Lefty’s  Deceivers and Clouser innows are pretty good too.  Good luck, I did throw a line at some enormous RF there in Tampa Bay, and  the ones my boatmates caught on bait were quite a handful (18-25#). Crashjibe

Get the August/September issue of Fly Fishing Saltwater.  One of the articles is Florida’s Indian River Lagoon. The Indian river is on the East coast of Florida rather than the west coast where Tampa, but Jon Cave, the author talks extensively about catching redfish and trout.  I am also taking a fly fihsing course from him this weekend.  His favorite is a deerhair surface popper.  He also suggests streamer flies, and bendbacks.  Clouser deep minnows and keel-hook flies are recommended.  Use a 7 to 9 weight system and a floating line for most situations.  Reds like surface disturbances and noise. From my own experience, if you can get something flashy and something that rattles, a red will strike it no matter where it is.  They will get surface flies as well as deep water flies. Good luck!

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I am going to Tampa in two weeks, and would like to know what flys will catch some of the ultra large redfish my Father-in-law is takeing on cut bait!  I know that they don’t see well, and I know that fly’s don’t have much of a stink to them???  I am a newbie to fly fishing…any and all help would be very much appreciated!

Starting from the surface and working to the bottom: Floater — Pencil poppers – white or yellow with red head. Slow sinker — SeaDucers – same colors. Medium sinker — Lefty’s Deceivers or Blondes. Faster sinker — Bendbacks, deceivers and blondes with bead chain eyes. Bottom bouncers — Clouser minnows and larger crazy charlies. Check with the locals on what is hot the days you are there.

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I’m not an expert on Redfish, but I have fished for them with flies in Tampa Bay, and I have a good friend who even catches them there that way. The fundamental secret is sinking line.  Redfish are downlooking feeders. They like shrimp, shrimp dive for the bottom when they see predators.  If you can make a shrimp imitation head for the bottom on the retrieve, you should have some success.  I understand  that green and white Lefty’s Deceivers and Clouser innows are pretty good too. Good luck, I did throw a line at some enormous RF there in Tampa Bay, and the ones my boatmates caught on bait were quite a handful (18-25#). Crashjibe

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I am going to Tampa in two weeks, and would like to know what flys will catch some of the ultra large redfish — deleted Thanks…Craig.

I plan a trip in Jan and my info says Clouser minnows, both with and without bead head eyes in green/white.  I ‘ll try some pink/biege for shrimp imitatisons too.  They are easy to tie.  Crazy Charlies have a body wrap that I can’t identify so I will buy them or tie there.  Anyone have a quickie crab pattern?

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I am going to Tampa in two weeks, and would like to know what flys will catch some of the ultra large redfish my Father-in-law is takeing on cut bait!  I know that they don’t see well, and I know that fly’s don’t have much of a stink to them???  I am a newbie to fly fishing…any and all help would be very much appreciated! Thanks…Craig. —              "Sometimes you get shown the Light,               in the strangest places if you look at right"

   I seem to remember a "shrimp" pattern as being reasonably successful…    But it’s been quite a while and I was fishing in the marshes of south    Louisiana (Lafitte, etc.).    Hap —                 <<<<< OMNIA EXTARES                              

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I am going to Tampa in two weeks, and would like to know what flys will catch some of the ultra large redfish my Father-in-law is takeing on cut bait!  I know that they don’t see well, and I know that fly’s don’t have much of a stink to them???  I am a newbie to fly fishing…any and all help would be very much appreciated! Thanks…Craig. —               "Sometimes you get shown the Light,                in the strangest places if you look at right"

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